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Sticky Fingers reissue June 8, 2015 (new release date)
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New issue of the very reputable French magazine "Rock & Folk" features an interview with Don Was, who says he has been working on a 'Sticky Fingers' reissue for March 2015.

Tellingly, he mentions that it wasnt easy to find a lot of usable unreleased material as a lot of the songs from that era were used for Exile and Tattoo You (!)

Thanks to kowalski on IORR for the info.

Whats even more telling is that quite a few of the videos of thecomplete  Marquee Club gig from 1971 have been removed from YouTube by Eagle Rock recently, which would suggest that, as has been hinted previously, this show might feature as part of the release.


(thread title edited 24th Feb to reflect more likely release date of May 2015)
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"Rock & Folk" features an interview with Don Was, who says he has been working on a 'Sticky Fingers' reissue for March 2015.

Tellingly, he mentions that it wasnt easy to find a lot of usable unreleased material as a lot of the songs from that era were used for Exile and Tattoo You (!)

Thanks to kowalski on IORR for the info.

Whats even more telling is that quite a few of the videos of thecomplete  Marquee Club gig from 1971 have been removed from YouTube by Eagle Rock recently, which would suggest that, as has been hinted previously, this show might feature as part of the release. "


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would have a been a nice christmas present but march will do!!!
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To hell with Marquee Club - Complete Leeds 1971 in stereo.
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To hell with Marquee Club - Complete Leeds 1971 in stereo.



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To hell with Marquee Club - Complete Leeds 1971 in stereo.


Maybe we'll get that too.

Original album remastered already about four or five years ago.

Very few outtakes, with a large crossover of songs which were used for Exile or reworked for the Exile deluxe.

Very little known video footage or circulating audio from what is their least documented tour of the Brian Jones era.

A TV special which was never shown in the UK because the band thought the performance was sub-par.

All in all, while its undoubtedly a classic album, its not the most logical choice to get the 'deluxe' treatment.

Nonetheless, I will, of course, be all over the fucking thing.
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Considering the crossover from the Let It Bleed, then Sticky Fingers, then Exile sessions, I'd think they could easily come up with a good bonus disc for this release (including the inevitable new overdubs and vocal tracks on some songs). That is if they can be bothered. I don't think the people who will buy this would care a lot, and probably would know more about when the actual songs date from than the Stones themselves.

I'd propose:
acoustic All Down the Line
electric All Down the Line alternative (earlier?) take
early Shine a Light (aka Get a Line On You)
Brown Sugar (Keith's birthday version w/Clapton and Al Cooper
Traveling Man

Just a few that are mostly complete and in excellent sound.

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Mr. Yeats wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 8:56pm:
Considering the crossover from the Let It Bleed, then Sticky Fingers, then Exile sessions, I'd think they could easily come up with a good bonus disc for this release (including the inevitable new overdubs and vocal tracks on some songs). That is if they can be bothered. I don't think the people who will buy this would care a lot, and probably would know more about when the actual songs date from than the Stones themselves.

I'd propose:
acoustic All Down the Line
electric All Down the Line alternative (earlier?) take
early Shine a Light (aka Get a Line On You)
Brown Sugar (Keith's birthday version w/Clapton and Al Cooper
Traveling Man

Just a few that are mostly complete and in excellent sound.



Most of those - Brown Sugar excepted and arguably Travellin' Man too - were surely songs that were under consideration for the Exile reissue though (and they released an early take of ADTL on the 'Plundered my soul' single already)

I agree they could come up with a good bonus disc of studio material - but it'd mostly be alternate takes. Most of the usable songs that were left off Sticky Fingers ended up being released on Exile a year later with a few overdubs added.

The reason why Exile was a double album to begin with was because they had some very good songs leftover from Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers - and therefore there werent a lot of bonafide outtakes from Exile because they used up material from old sessions as filler (albeit magnificent filler!).

They dont tend to finish a lot more songs than what they need at the time. Understandably enough as theyre working to a schedule to get a record finished for a certain time and the concept of finding a use for these surplus songs on reissues of the albums four decades later was something that couldnt have been foreseen.
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Gazza wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 6:11am:
Mr. Yeats wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 8:56pm:
Considering the crossover from the Let It Bleed, then Sticky Fingers, then Exile sessions, I'd think they could easily come up with a good bonus disc for this release (including the inevitable new overdubs and vocal tracks on some songs). That is if they can be bothered. I don't think the people who will buy this would care a lot, and probably would know more about when the actual songs date from than the Stones themselves.

I'd propose:
acoustic All Down the Line
electric All Down the Line alternative (earlier?) take
early Shine a Light (aka Get a Line On You)
Brown Sugar (Keith's birthday version w/Clapton and Al Cooper
Traveling Man

Just a few that are mostly complete and in excellent sound.



Most of those - Brown Sugar excepted and arguably Travellin' Man too - were surely songs that were under consideration for the Exile reissue though (and they released an early take of ADTL on the 'Plundered my soul' single already)

I agree they could come up with a good bonus disc of studio material - but it'd mostly be alternate takes. Most of the usable songs that were left off Sticky Fingers ended up being released on Exile a year later with a few overdubs added.

The reason why Exile was a double album to begin with was because they had some very good songs leftover from Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers - and therefore there werent a lot of bonafide outtakes from Exile because they used up material from old sessions as filler (albeit magnificent filler!).

They dont tend to finish a lot more songs than what they need at the time. Understandably enough as theyre working to a schedule to get a record finished for a certain time and the concept of finding a use for these surplus songs on reissues of the albums four decades later was something that couldnt have been foreseen.

G, let me ask you this (not to change album project topics), and I'll use Still A Fool/Two Trains Running as my example:
it seems unlikely that Abcko is going to give Stones Inc. much more latitude business wise to release anything more (even if the Stones wanted to) due to the Klein estate situation (correct me if I'm mistaken about that situation).

So here's my point: why couldn't Still A Fool appear on the Sticky Fingers release? To my way of thinking, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile were all just one big productive session, resulting in four albums. But that's just me.
I think that song would fit right in (and on the Exile re-release as well). Obviously it's more than worthy of release. So what might be the hold up?
Business considerations? Trying to erase Brian from their history (that's him on slide, no matter what anyone says, and a brilliant last hurrah it is too) like they try to do with Bill? If it be copyright/royalties/greed, etc - surely the song is public domain by now (I seriously doubt it can be solely attributed to Muddy Waters).

Sorry for the meandering post, just interested in your views on these things.

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Some interesting info on why big '60s artists need to release more from the vaults, business-wise.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-bob-dylan-box-sets/
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A call could shirley/possibly be made to Tiffany Schwartz-Klein or whoever it is who now chairs Klein, Klein & Schwartz-Klein.
Or to Nobby and Bunty or someone at Decca, in re. 'Schoolboy Blues'?
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Wouldn't surprise me if Criss-Cross Man turned up on this one. I am told it would be out of place chronologically, but there's been debates on the SG and Exile bonus discs as well.

I'd like that one on an official release, so I wouldn't mind. Otherwise I'll be eagerly awaiting the deluxe treatment of other 70's albums. Without holding my breath.
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Mr. Yeats wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 6:11pm:
Gazza wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 6:11am:
Mr. Yeats wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 8:56pm:
Considering the crossover from the Let It Bleed, then Sticky Fingers, then Exile sessions, I'd think they could easily come up with a good bonus disc for this release (including the inevitable new overdubs and vocal tracks on some songs). That is if they can be bothered. I don't think the people who will buy this would care a lot, and probably would know more about when the actual songs date from than the Stones themselves.

I'd propose:
acoustic All Down the Line
electric All Down the Line alternative (earlier?) take
early Shine a Light (aka Get a Line On You)
Brown Sugar (Keith's birthday version w/Clapton and Al Cooper
Traveling Man

Just a few that are mostly complete and in excellent sound.



Most of those - Brown Sugar excepted and arguably Travellin' Man too - were surely songs that were under consideration for the Exile reissue though (and they released an early take of ADTL on the 'Plundered my soul' single already)

I agree they could come up with a good bonus disc of studio material - but it'd mostly be alternate takes. Most of the usable songs that were left off Sticky Fingers ended up being released on Exile a year later with a few overdubs added.

The reason why Exile was a double album to begin with was because they had some very good songs leftover from Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers - and therefore there werent a lot of bonafide outtakes from Exile because they used up material from old sessions as filler (albeit magnificent filler!).

They dont tend to finish a lot more songs than what they need at the time. Understandably enough as theyre working to a schedule to get a record finished for a certain time and the concept of finding a use for these surplus songs on reissues of the albums four decades later was something that couldnt have been foreseen.

G, let me ask you this (not to change album project topics), and I'll use Still A Fool/Two Trains Running as my example:
it seems unlikely that Abcko is going to give Stones Inc. much more latitude business wise to release anything more (even if the Stones wanted to) due to the Klein estate situation (correct me if I'm mistaken about that situation).

So here's my point: why couldn't Still A Fool appear on the Sticky Fingers release? To my way of thinking, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile were all just one big productive session, resulting in four albums. But that's just me.
I think that song would fit right in (and on the Exile re-release as well). Obviously it's more than worthy of release. So what might be the hold up?
Business considerations? Trying to erase Brian from their history (that's him on slide, no matter what anyone says, and a brilliant last hurrah it is too) like they try to do with Bill? If it be copyright/royalties/greed, etc - surely the song is public domain by now (I seriously doubt it can be solely attributed to Muddy Waters).

Sorry for the meandering post, just interested in your views on these things.



Meander away! We should do it more often.

I think 'Beggars' is seen as more of a separate entity than the three albums that succeeded it (no changing line up, all new songs, all recorded in a relatively short time frame), but I take your point. 'Sister Morphine' originates from these sessions, after all (although the version on SF dates from an early 'Let It Bleed' session).

I dont think there's much of a problem with ABKCO anymore. Jody Klein himself even specifically stated this in an interview in IORR magazine a few years back.

There's been a huge amount of co-operation on archive releases in recent years (R&R Circus, 40 Licks, Grrr, Charlie is My Darling, Ya Yas box set etc) and as far as I'm aware UMG are the parent company for ABKCO outside of the US -  I'm assuming that this new release will be on UMG even though the Stones' five year deal with that label has now actually expired.

I also think this is likely to be less of an issue in coming years. I mentioned on the Dylan thread today about another release for the 'Copyright Extension Collection' (which relates to officially releasing known recordings before the 50-year copyright expires, and therefore preventing them from becoming public domain recordings). This has happened with Dylan's recordings from 1961-64, The Beatles have done something similar and it can only be a matter of time surely before ABKCO and/or UMG are obliged to do something regarding the Stones.
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Some interesting info on why big '60s artists need to release more from the vaults, business-wise.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-bob-dylan-box-sets/


For some reason (probably my shitty work computer) I'm only getting a black screen for this link. Can anyone copy and paste the article?
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One of the great thrills of collecting music is getting a hold of some previously unreleased material by a favorite artist. And thanks to a revision in European law, Bob Dylan, the Beatles and other classic rock artists have been put in a position where they have to open their vaults to the public.

In 2012, the European Union extended copyrights on recordings from 50 to 70 years. However, the law came with a provision that copyrighted material had to be released within 50 years or else the songs would enter the public domain. Last year, Dylan and the Beatles, without much publicity, put out collections in order to retain their copyrights.

And they’re about to do it again. The New York Times reported that Dylan is expected to drop a nine-disc set of rare material from 1964. This is believed to include television performances, outtakes from ‘Another Side of Bob Dylan‘ and three sides worth of home recordings he did with Eric Von Schmidt, another member of the New York folk scene.

The Beatles have yet to announce if they will do anything special but, last week, the Beach Boys dropped a pair of albums. ‘Keep an Eye on Summer: The Beach Boys Sessions 1964′ is comprised of outtakes, alternate mixes and BBC recordings, while ‘The Beach Boys Live in Sacramento 1964′ contains two concerts.

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Meander away! We should do it more often.

I think 'Beggars' is seen as more of a separate entity than the three albums that succeeded it (no changing line up, all new songs, all recorded in a relatively short time frame), but I take your point. 'Sister Morphine' originates from these sessions, after all (although the version on SF dates from an early 'Let It Bleed' session).

I dont think there's much of a problem with ABKCO anymore. Jody Klein himself even specifically stated this in an interview in IORR magazine a few years back.

There's been a huge amount of co-operation on archive releases in recent years (R&R Circus, 40 Licks, Grrr, Charlie is My Darling, Ya Yas box set etc) and as far as I'm aware UMG are the parent company for ABKCO outside of the US -  I'm assuming that this new release will be on UMG even though the Stones' five year deal with that label has now actually expired.

I also think this is likely to be less of an issue in coming years. I mentioned on the Dylan thread today about another release for the 'Copyright Extension Collection' (which relates to officially releasing known recordings before the 50-year copyright expires, and therefore preventing them from becoming public domain recordings). This has happened with Dylan's recordings from 1961-64, The Beatles have done something similar and it can only be a matter of time surely before ABKCO and/or UMG are obliged to do something regarding the Stones.

Meander I shall!
Weren't Midnight Rambler and You Got the Silver also from those BB Olympic sessions? Brian was credited with percussion on Rambler and autoharp on Silver...

Thanks for clearing up the Klein stuff. I'd thought there were still problems or bad blood.

So why no ABCKO-era expanded releases? You'd think, since 2002, that Stones Inc. would be all over a Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed release. Those would surely sell as well (and to the same people) as Exile and Some Girls. Lots of potential stuff there:
original Memo From Turner (perfect as is)
Blood Red Wine (kind of weak)
Stuck Out All Alone (also a bit week)
Jagger's You Got the Silver (perfect as is, and quite revealing and maybe of good curiosity value to casual fans as the band's been playing the song regularly in recent years)
Keith's Gimme Shelter (that's one I actually wouldn't mind a new vocal overdub on. Again - good curiosity value)
Maybe clean up Did Everybody Pay Their Dues? (more curiosity value).
And of course Still A Fool.

Can't suss out whether these copyright extensions apply to unreleased stuff (as in unknown material), alt versions, covers, what all.
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any chance we will get a plundered type nugget that knocks our socks off?



My socks remained firmly in place when Plundered came out. My footwear was far more affected by I Love You Too Much...
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Gazza wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 7:35am:
Meander away! We should do it more often.

I think 'Beggars' is seen as more of a separate entity than the three albums that succeeded it (no changing line up, all new songs, all recorded in a relatively short time frame), but I take your point. 'Sister Morphine' originates from these sessions, after all (although the version on SF dates from an early 'Let It Bleed' session).

I dont think there's much of a problem with ABKCO anymore. Jody Klein himself even specifically stated this in an interview in IORR magazine a few years back.

There's been a huge amount of co-operation on archive releases in recent years (R&R Circus, 40 Licks, Grrr, Charlie is My Darling, Ya Yas box set etc) and as far as I'm aware UMG are the parent company for ABKCO outside of the US -  I'm assuming that this new release will be on UMG even though the Stones' five year deal with that label has now actually expired.

I also think this is likely to be less of an issue in coming years. I mentioned on the Dylan thread today about another release for the 'Copyright Extension Collection' (which relates to officially releasing known recordings before the 50-year copyright expires, and therefore preventing them from becoming public domain recordings). This has happened with Dylan's recordings from 1961-64, The Beatles have done something similar and it can only be a matter of time surely before ABKCO and/or UMG are obliged to do something regarding the Stones.

Meander I shall!
Weren't Midnight Rambler and You Got the Silver also from those BB Olympic sessions? Brian was credited with percussion on Rambler and autoharp on Silver...

Thanks for clearing up the Klein stuff. I'd thought there were still problems or bad blood.

So why no ABCKO-era expanded releases? You'd think, since 2002, that Stones Inc. would be all over a Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed release. Those would surely sell as well (and to the same people) as Exile and Some Girls. Lots of potential stuff there:
original Memo From Turner (perfect as is)
Blood Red Wine (kind of weak)
Stuck Out All Alone (also a bit week)
Jagger's You Got the Silver (perfect as is, and quite revealing and maybe of good curiosity value to casual fans as the band's been playing the song regularly in recent years)
Keith's Gimme Shelter (that's one I actually wouldn't mind a new vocal overdub on. Again - good curiosity value)
Maybe clean up Did Everybody Pay Their Dues? (more curiosity value).
And of course Still A Fool.

Can't suss out whether these copyright extensions apply to unreleased stuff (as in unknown material), alt versions, covers, what all.


"Midnight Rambler" and "You The Silver" have Brian credited as playing OK - but they're both bonafide 'Let It Bleed' session recordings (Feb-Mar 1969)

I think an expanded Beggars Banquet would make the most sense of all the remaining albums from that era, even though a couple of the outtakes have been released on 'Metamorphosis' (which has 'Let It Bleed' outtakes too, of course). Agree that a BB/LIB set would be great as well.

Theres already some good alternate takes of the official songs in circulation from 68 and 69, so this is definitely one era where they did seem to finish a lot of songs as well as cut a few pretty solid alternate takes - and thats just the ones we have documented.

The way the copyright extension thing works is that they concentrate on unreleased material which is in circulation (or which they think MIGHT get into circulation). Technically speaking they could release everything they have in the vaults, but presumably the logic is that there's no need to put out stuff they have under lock and key which they're confident nobody has.

Once they release this material commercially (and its valid even if, as in the case of The Beatles and Dylan, they only issue a few hundred copies and then withdraw it), the copyright is then automatically renewed on those recordings for the next 70 years. This only seems to affect Europe, by the way.

I'll quote this post on the Dylan "Expecting Rain" site which explains it better.

In the EU the situation is as follows:

Recordings* made or released in 1962 or earlier are in the public domain, no matter what. That's why the market is being flooded with unauthorized copies of Dylan's first album and bootleg material from 1961 and 1962. And all those unauthorized early Rock 'n' Roll and jazz albums (on labels like Doxy, Jazzwax, Dolchess etc.).

The new European copyright law from 2011 protects recordings made in 1963 or later for 70 years, but only if the recordings were published within 50 years after they were made.

The law was passed in September 2011, but was only incorporated into the law of each EU member state by 2013 and thus only became effective in 2013.

Therefore Dylan's 1962 Anniversary Collection (rel. in 2012) was superfluous legally, but at the time of its release the legal situation was unclear since the law was in the process of being incorporated into the member state laws. So I guess Dylan's people went ahead with the release just in case (because of the legal situation being unclear they probably threw in a lot of uncirculating stuff, again, just in case).

The 1963 Anniversary Collection (rel. in 1963) on the other hand does benefit from the new law and its release extended the copyright of the enclosed recordings to 70 years from the date of release.


I think thats why the Stones released the IBC Demos from 1963 on the deluxe edition of "Grrr!" as those songs would otherwise have become public domain on 1st January 2014.

From the Stones perspective, unlike Dylan and The Beatles, there's very little material available on bootlegs from 1962-64. There are only a couple of audience concert recordings, and I'd presume the stuff thats available from official broadcasts are still owned by that organisation. (just checked this, and according to new EU laws, any BBC recordings from 1963 onwards are the property of that company for 70 years after their broadcast date - which means that all the Stones BBC sessions are protected until 2035). The Stones did release some BBC radio material (from March '64) on the "Grrr!" bonus disc. Presumably with clearance from the BBC.

That leaves the studio material. There's a sizeable amount of Stones studio material in circulation from 1964 - mostly Regent Studios early in the year and Chess Studios in June. From what I can gather, in Europe, that stuff becomes public domain in just over three weeks time. You or I could then conceivably legally factory press recordings of those songs - and the artist and songwriters wouldnt make any money from it.

However, the Stones still werent writing a lot of original songs in 1964, so they would maybe have less reason than Dylan or The Beatles in being concerned about the loss of royalties.

Then again, it's the Stones. And there's money to be made. I'd be surprised if they let this opportunity pass.
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A finished vocal on "Travellin' Man" (ideally done in 1970-71, as opposed to 2014, but beggars cant be choosers I suppose) would fit the bill very nicely, I think...

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Some Guy wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 9:40am:
any chance we will get a plundered type nugget that knocks our socks off?


A finished vocal on "Travellin' Man" (ideally done in 1970-71, as opposed to 2014, but beggars cant be choosers I suppose) would fit the bill very nicely, I think...




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Gazza - cheers for the info, very interesting stuff, to say the least.

One other question about the copyright thing - what's the status of the so called "grey market" releases you often find on Amazon and the like? Springsteen's Main Point show from '75 is out there, as well as a famous Lou Reed show from '76. I'm sure loads of others. Those are both radio broadcasts, which you stated had a 70 year window.
Don't know if those two shows I mentioned were manufactured in the US or the EU, or whether there are considerable differences between the US and EU laws, but it just adds a bit more confusion.

But hey - maybe we will see those '64 Chess sessions on a grey market release! Three weeks and counting...
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Looking forward to whatever they put out in March. Maybe they are still working on it. I hope we get a bonus disc with different outtakes, I had a bootleg with this stuff on it but I cant find it at the moment. There was a really good song that never made it to the album and lots of alternative versions of many songs. This could be very cool!
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Gazza - cheers for the info, very interesting stuff, to say the least.

One other question about the copyright thing - what's the status of the so called "grey market" releases you often find on Amazon and the like? Springsteen's Main Point show from '75 is out there, as well as a famous Lou Reed show from '76. I'm sure loads of others. Those are both radio broadcasts, which you stated had a 70 year window.
Don't know if those two shows I mentioned were manufactured in the US or the EU, or whether there are considerable differences between the US and EU laws, but it just adds a bit more confusion.

But hey - maybe we will see those '64 Chess sessions on a grey market release! Three weeks and counting...


BBC broadcasts have a 70-year window. I've no idea what the case is for broadcasts owned by other stations.

However, these releases are bootlegs, and are on bootleg labels, as opposed to the artist's own label (Springsteen has only ever been on Columbia/Sony). I've seen some of them in ordinary record stores too (ones that wouldnt knowingly stock bootlegs). I'm amazed Amazon turn a blind eye to them, to be honest. Even more amazed that the artists have done nothing about it (especially as Springsteen is now in the process of starting to officially release shows from his vaults, going back to the 70's)

I remember back in the early 80's there seemed to be a loophole for live performances of over 20 years vintage in Italy, and a lot of 1961-62 Dylan shows got semi-official releases for a time ("Little White Wonder", etc), but those seem to have disappeared in recent years.
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Interesting technical legal shit, Gazza. Like you said, if there is money to be made by The Stones releasing it, than there is the incentive for them to do it. I'm also inclined to believe that at this point MICK/KEEF are interested in preserving their legacy in musical history as well as making money.
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I think its more a case of them not being arsed working on new songs together anymore and realising that putting out 'souvenir' live albums from every new tour and a greatest hits set every few years isnt enough of an alternative.

There isnt really a lot of money for them in albums anymore - nothing they couldnt dwarf with a couple of concerts (the recently completed Australia/NZ tour grossed $45.3 million in ticket sales alone or just 8 concerts!). They make far far more in merchandise than they do in record sales.

Its easy money fo very little effort, and as we've seen from the Exile and Some Girls reissues, any overdubbing or extra work doesnt even involve the whole band.

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I still wonder if this will happen. Guess they enjoy their holidays the coming months. and rightfully so.
is there any actual news on the release date...

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No 'news' on a release date confirmed yet. Just - as stated in the original post - an indication from Don Was that the intention is to have it out around March.

Thats only three months away, which would suggest to me anything that may have been added to what extra tracks they are releasing would already have been done.

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from Stonesplanetbrazil today (thanks, Andre Ribeiro)

Segundo a informação que recebemos hoje, a reedição de Sticky Fingers sai em abril do ano que vem. Além do disco remasterizado, será lançado CD de faixas bônus mais um DVD/CD do Marquee 1971. Um livro também será incluído na caixa. A arte da capa deverá ser a da edição espanhola. O lançamento ocorreria no dia 23 de abril, data dos 44 anos do álbum.

According to information we received today, the reissue of Sticky Fingers comes out in April of next year. In addition to the remastered album, will be released a CD of bonus tracks plus a DVD / CD of the Marquee 1971 show. A book will also be included in the box. The cover art should be the Spanish edition. The launch will be on April 23, the 44th anniversary of the album.
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So 3 CDs and a DVD? Sounds fine. I don't think the Marquee show is as lame as some people seem to think (it's certainly better than Leeds, plus you get "I Got the Blues"!!!!; what was up in '71? Why such low energy levels?).

Just hope they don't try to charge $100 for the package. Hopefully Eagle Rock can do it. They do nice work with videos and seem to keep the prices down.
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You had me at In addition to the remastered album, will be released a CD of bonus tracks plus a DVD / CD of the Marquee 1971 show.
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So 3 CDs and a DVD? Sounds fine. I don't think the Marquee show is as lame as some people seem to think (it's certainly better than Leeds, plus you get "I Got the Blues"!!!!; what was up in '71? Why such low energy levels?).

Just hope they don't try to charge $100 for the package. Hopefully Eagle Rock can do it. They do nice work with videos and seem to keep the prices down.



If past form is anything to go by, it'll be the version with the book that pushes the price through the roof.

There's really very little on video from that 1970-71 era. The Stones did no TV at all during the 1970 European tour and the short British tour in March 1971 only saw two TV appearances on Top Of The Pops and the Marquee TV special (which was never shown in the UK)

All the TOTP footage was shot on the same day in late March after the Marquee taping and just before the band emigrated to France.

'Brown Sugar' was shown on 15th April (and again afterwards as the single climbed the charts to #2) and performances of "Wild Horses" and "Bitch" were both included on the (short-lived) 'album slot' of the show on 22nd April.

Both of these broadcasts have been long wiped. We do have that famous clip of 'Brown Sugar' from the 15th April broadcast - but its actually taken from a re-broadcast of the performance aired during the show's end of year Christmas Day special. Only the audio survives of the 22nd April show.

It'd be a huge find if they dug that 22nd April performance out for this release.  Hopefully Bill has it in his archives somewhere.

The Marquee gig is hardly their finest 38 minutes, but its pretty much all we're likely to have on video from what is their least documented post-Brian tour.

Leeds is a significantly better gig, but it only exists on audio. The BBC radio broadcast omits the first couple of the show's songs. It would have been nice to have got that one.
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This of course is the Spanish cover of the original "Sticky Fingers" album from 1971. The Warhol photo of Joey Dellasandro's bulging crotch was evidently a bit much for the Francoists.

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The other oddity from the Spanish version of course was the removal of "Sister Morphine" from the album, to be replaced by the live version of "Let It Rock" from Leeds University, which had been included on the UK maxi single release of "Brown Sugar"

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Maybe they'll release 'Hillside Blues'

Thing is, its a matter of public record that all (or most) of the extra takes of Brown Sugar, Wild Horses and You Gotta Move that they did at Muscle Shoals were erased, although most or all of those songs were recorded again later.

Personally, I'd expect them to follow on from what they did on the Exile deluxe and put out some of those Trident Demos (aka Bell Sound Demos) with modern day lyrics and vocals (eg Aladdin Story (So Divine) and Dancing In The Light) - so we might get reworked (and possibly retitled) versions of Potted Shrimp, Who am I, Leather Jacket etc.
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This of course is the Spanish cover of the original "Sticky Fingers" album from 1971. The Warhol photo of Joey Dellasandro's bulging crotch was evidently a bit much for the Francoists.

Ha! I remember seeing the Spanish cover in Roy Carr's book in '76 and being thoroughly grossed out. Still am. The Stones have a bit of a history of tasteless album covers, but that one really takes the cake; and conversely, I've always thought the Warhol cover was brilliant (especially the vinyl original with the zipper) - really got to the heart of the matter regarding the vibe of the songs and the band. Really hope the Spanish one isn't  the cover for the re-release.

So yeah, no wonder the Franco regime didn't like it -  fascists are always more comfortable with suffering/mutilation than human sexuality.
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Does anyone think they'll finally release "Cocksucker Blues" on this set?

I'd personally be amazed if they do. We seem to live in an age now where people get offended over anything and you can just imagine how much of a fuss stupid journalists would make of this, whilst ignoring or being totally oblivious to the reason behind why they recorded the song to begin with.

Whereas 40 years ago the band would have had a bit of a giggle over it, I doubt the latter day more corporate-conscious, PC-version of Stones, Inc.would welcome that sort of coverage.
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They could release it as part of a Rock opera based on the ABKCO / Stones relationship at the time. Daniel Radcliffe playing the lonesome school boy (the Stones) and John Goodman as the truncheon wielding police man (ABKCO)...

...might be a bit racy for TV though...but at least it would see a release!
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I can just see the Daily Mail's outraged front page already!

Maybe they should just broadcast it as a cartoon like they did with some of the Viz comic strips a few years ago like "The Fat Slags" and "Roger Mellie, the Man on The Tellie"
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In re. new / extra Sticky Finger-ish things being recorded/added to/conjured up in January sessions (?):

It might be lovely if Bill W were involved?

There's no requirement for MT to dominate but hopefully he could pull a lead out of the bag?

A prob may be that there may not be (even ever) a ditty as saucy, comical and groovy as Brown Sugar. Butis there a kick-&-spittle within the Trident Mixes, or elsewhere, in which there is a pumpy nugget that can be tuned up fairly well?

'Moo' Li' Mi' should be left as it is?

There is no especial need, shirley, to involve the Franco-ist can/tin imagery.

It would be grand if trousers were explored visually.

Perhaps it's necessary to take tracks like 'Travelling Man' and add a humour that was lacking / not fully formed  in the early '70s?.













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James Karnbach (VideoJames) mentioned on IORR that

    he has the videos of the long-missing 22nd April 1971 TOTP performances of Wild Horses and Bitch and offered them to the Stones for use on this project

    another show from the 71 tour was filmed aside from the Marquee gig. He's been trying to persuade them to use that one  for the DVD as well as the Marquee show (which they will be using)


This project has the potential to be more interesting than we first thought it might be. Hopefully now they have access to footage that pretty much no one has seen, they'll make the most of it.
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any updates??


Nothing yet, all superdeluxe editions are available to preorder at amazon from one to three months before the release date, so let's wait for February to see if it is available. Also stay tuned at http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/feature/sde-reissue-preview-for-2015/

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Nothing yet, all superdeluxe editions are available to preorder at amazon from one to three months before the release date, so let's wait for February to see if it is available. Also stay tuned at http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/feature/sde-reissue-preview-for-2015/



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Here are audio only recordings (with a photo montage from the show) of 'Bitch' and 'Wild Horses' from the 'Top of the Pops' broadcast of 22nd April 1971. Sound quality isnt too good - obviously someone's just taped it off their TV set with the sort of primitive equipment which was just starting to become available in the early 70's - but it's nice to have.








Thanks to Cristiano Radke from Brazil, for sending me the link on facebook.

As mentioned above, we're hoping that the Stones will use James Karnbach's copy of the long-lost video of the performances for the upcoming Sticky Fingers release.
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Yeah, sorry for the false hopes..lol

I think if we were getting this in March, we'd have known by now.

Maybe they'll do what they did with the Exile reissue and put it out around the anniversary of the release date of the original album - which for Sticky Fingers would be late April.

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Yeah, sorry for the false hopes..lol

I think if we were getting this in March, we'd have known by now.

Maybe they'll do what they did with the Exile reissue and put it out around the anniversary of the release date of the original album - which for Sticky Fingers would be late April.

Havent heard anything re: an imminent release date myself

Whatever they do. It can't be worse than the Physical Graffiti reissue.  War horses couldn't drag me away Interesting stuff Ronnie!
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I had heard that the release date was April 23rd but we'd have a press release by now...had heard some of them were going to be in a studio last month to polish up some outtakes but don't think that happened either! I got another strange piece of news from my friend who works for Eagle Rock, he says the Stones have only authorized them to release two titles a year in the new From The Vault series...WTF?!?!?!
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Gazza wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:45pm:
Yeah, sorry for the false hopes..lol

I think if we were getting this in March, we'd have known by now.

Maybe they'll do what they did with the Exile reissue and put it out around the anniversary of the release date of the original album - which for Sticky Fingers would be late April.

Havent heard anything re: an imminent release date myself

Whatever they do. It can't be worse than the Physical Graffiti reissue.  War horses couldn't drag me away Interesting stuff Ronnie!


seriously. they should have released the complete earls court with it. page is seventy....one what is he waiting for?
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Gazza wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:45pm:
Yeah, sorry for the false hopes..lol

I think if we were getting this in March, we'd have known by now.

Maybe they'll do what they did with the Exile reissue and put it out around the anniversary of the release date of the original album - which for Sticky Fingers would be late April.

Havent heard anything re: an imminent release date myself

Whatever they do. It can't be worse than the Physical Graffiti reissue.  War horses couldn't drag me away Interesting stuff Ronnie!


seriously. they should have released the complete earls court with it. page is seventy....one what is he waiting for?

I know Mojo. So many years wasted. Waiting for Robert. Go make some music of your own............Exile and PG are two,of the greatest albums ever made. But the Stones did a far more respectable deluxe issue of Exile than Jimmy did of PG. That's just a waste of time.
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May 11 release date (May 12 in the US), I'm told.

Havent heard anything more about the content, though.

Should be confirmation relatively soon, I suppose.
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I hope I am wrong, but I think the two are incredibly unrelated...even if they were to start on the same day...don't expect this to be the SF tour or 72 tour revisted.
They may break out CYHMK with Taylor (if he is on the bill) and perhaps an occasional Dead Flowers...but other than BS and Bitch...you won't get much else...at least not billed as something off SF.
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Releasing right before the summer tour is supposed to start.  Makes sense.



I hope I am wrong, but I think the two are incredibly unrelated...even if they were to start on the same day...don't expect this to be the SF tour or 72 tour revisted.
They may break out CYHMK with Taylor (if he is on the bill) and perhaps an occasional Dead Flowers...but other than BS and Bitch...you won't get much else...at least not billed as something off SF.


I don't, actually.  Having the release near the tour adds press coverage.  That's all I expect them to do about it.
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AngieBlue wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 11:09am:
Releasing right before the summer tour is supposed to start.  Makes sense.



I hope I am wrong, but I think the two are incredibly unrelated...even if they were to start on the same day...don't expect this to be the SF tour or 72 tour revisted.
They may break out CYHMK with Taylor (if he is on the bill) and perhaps an occasional Dead Flowers...but other than BS and Bitch...you won't get much else...at least not billed as something off SF.


I don't, actually.  Having the release near the tour adds press coverage.  That's all I expect them to do about it.



I don't doubt at all the two will be mentioned in the same paragraph...I was talking about being promoted that way by the Stones machine. Especially since I would say more than half the venue is probably unfamiliar with the album...oh...they know BS and Bitch...maybe another song...but not a reason to promote the two as one.
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Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
AngieBlue wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 11:09am:
Releasing right before the summer tour is supposed to start.  Makes sense.



I hope I am wrong, but I think the two are incredibly unrelated...even if they were to start on the same day...don't expect this to be the SF tour or 72 tour revisted.
They may break out CYHMK with Taylor (if he is on the bill) and perhaps an occasional Dead Flowers...but other than BS and Bitch...you won't get much else...at least not billed as something off SF.


I don't, actually.  Having the release near the tour adds press coverage.  That's all I expect them to do about it.



I don't doubt at all the two will be mentioned in the same paragraph...I was talking about being promoted that way by the Stones machine. Especially since I would say more than half the venue is probably unfamiliar with the album...oh...they know BS and Bitch...maybe another song...but not a reason to promote the two as one.

Taylor won't be on the tour.
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The Stones' idea of 'touring behind a Sticky Fingers reissue' will more likely than not be something along the lines of the 'album themed' shows on the Licks tour - ie, play about four of the best known songs on the record back to back and then get on with the rest of the show.

Anyone thinking that Mick is going to spend 50 minutes of a Rolling Stones show in 2015 singing a 10-song suite of songs including You Gotta Move, Sister Morphine and Moonlight Mile is living in cloud cuckoo land.
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All this news about a tour and album performance in LA...I sorta forgot about this thread...
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Especially if they're announcing this rumoured show(s) at Club Nokia which is speculated to be taking place to promote it.

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Talk is that the reason why Mick and Keith have been in New York now for several weeks is that they've been been mixing the additional material for it.

Strange that they've never been photographed together in that time, though.
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Strange that they've never been photographed together in that time, though.



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Didn't think there'd be many actual out takes from Sticky Fingers for the reasons I mentioned previously but it's a bit surprising that there seems to be none at all - just a few alternate takes.

Five songs from the Roundhouse - a bit of a curate's egg I suppose. They're clearly using it to fill a disc and it's frustrating it's only a few songs and not the full show. But it's never been available as a professional recording previously so that's something

They're mentioning the 'get your Leeds lungs out' bonus material as a 13-track set, which is intriguing and promising - because the long circulating bootlegs from the broadcast and soundboard sources have only ever included 11 songs.

The first two songs performed that night - Jumpin jack flash and Live With Me - weren't included on the radio broadcast and have never been bootlegged.
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There will also be no gem like gems

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Some Guy wrote on Mar 31st, 2015 at 11:49am:
so are we all in agreeance that there will be no PMS type gems included?


Yep. Theyve obviously chosen not to polish up or rework a few of the leftover songs (or instrumentals)  this time.

If (like me) you're not that interested in all the gimmickry and are only in it for the music, its basically an extra £50 (or about $80) to get the extra CD with the Leeds show that features the two uncirculated songs. Oh, and they're giving us bonus DVD footage - two songs from the Marquee show.

James Karnbach offered them video of the two songs from the long-lost Top of The Pops broadcast of 'Bitch' and 'Wild Horses' which pretty much no one has seen since 1971 - but they declined.  Sad

The Super Deluxe looks very overpriced, to be honest. Think I'll be keeping my eyes on Amazon Germany again - they came up trumps for me for the 'Grrr' boxed set and the 6-CD version of the recent Dylan 'Basement Tapes' set.
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This is good yes? I buy?
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https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/

STICKY FINGERS ORIGINAL CD
(£8.99 )

Format
CD Album
Number of Discs : 1
Label : Polydor

Remastered album with 12 page booklet.
https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Original-CD/0L0S04YQ000

Also available on vinyl (£19.99)
https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Original-LP/4ETC04YQ000

Tracks
CD 1
1      Brown Sugar      
2      Sway      
3      Wild Horses      
4      Can't You Hear Me Knocking      
5      You Gotta Move      
6      Bitch      
7      I Got The Blues      
8      Sister Morphine      
9      Dead Flowers      
10      Moonlight Mile




STICKY FINGERS DELUXE 2CD (£11.99) 
Format
Double CD Album
Number of Discs : 2
Label : Polydor

Remastered album plus bonus CD featuring previously unreleased alternate takes and live performances with 24 page booklet.
https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Deluxe-2CD/4ETF04YQ000

Also available as a 2-LP set (£29.99) - https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Deluxe-Double-LP-Set/4ESD04YQ000

and as a limited edition 2-LP set with the original Spanish cover (£19.99)- https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Deluxe-Double-LP-Set-Limited-Edition-Spanish/4ESB04YQ000

(for those who were unaware of this, the 'zipper' sleeve was banned in Franco's Spain. They also had to replace 'Sister Morphine' with 'Let It Rock' - although the album presented here has the same track listing as the rest of the world got!)

Tracks
CD 1
1      Brown Sugar      
2      Sway      
3      Wild Horses      
4      Can't You Hear Me Knocking      
5      You Gotta Move      
6      Bitch      
7      I Got The Blues      
8      Sister Morphine      
9      Dead Flowers      
10      Moonlight Mile      
Tracks
CD 2
1      Brown Sugar (Alternate Version with Eric Clapton)      
2      Wild Horses (Acoustic Version)      
3      Can't You Hear Me Knocking (Alternate Version)      
4      Bitch (Extended Version)      
5      Dead Flowers (Alternate Version)      
6      Live With Me (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
7      Stray Cat Blues (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
8      Love In Vain (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
9      Midnight Rambler (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
10      Honky Tonk Women (Live The Roundhouse, 1971)





Deluxe Edition Box Set (£39.99)
Format : 2CD + DVD
Number of Discs : 3
Label : Polydor
Remastered album, bonus CD featuring previously unreleased alternate takes and live performances plus DVD with 2 tracks from ‘Live At The Marquee’. All housed in a presentation box with 72 page hardback picture book and 4 postcard set.
https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Deluxe-Edition-Boxset/4ETB04YQ000

Tracks
CD 1
1      Brown Sugar      
2      Sway      
3      Wild Horses      
4      Can't You Hear Me Knocking      
5      You Gotta Move      
6      Bitch      
7      I Got The Blues      
8      Sister Morphine      
9      Dead Flowers      
10      Moonlight Mile      
Tracks
CD 2
1      Brown Sugar (Alternate Version with Eric Clapton)      
2      Wild Horses (Acoustic Version)      
3      Can't You Hear Me Knocking (Alternate Version)      
4      Bitch (Extended Version)      
5      Dead Flowers (Alternate Version)      
6      Live With Me (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
7      Stray Cat Blues (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
8      Love In Vain (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
9      Midnight Rambler (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
10      Honky Tonk Women (Live The Roundhouse, 1971)      
Tracks
DVD 1
1      Midnight Rambler (Live At The Marquee, 1971)      
2      Bitch (Live At The Marquee, 1971)


Super Deluxe Edition Box Set (£99.99)
Format : 3 CD + 1 DVD
Number of Discs : 4
Label : Polydor
Remastered album and bonus CD featuring previously unreleased alternate takes and live performances. Plus ‘Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out’ CD, a DVD featuring 2 tracks from ‘Live At The Marquee’ and 7” vinyl with Brown Sugar and Wild Horses. All housed in a presentation box with hardback book complete with real zip. Plus print, poster, 4 postcard set and mini replica of band cut out. The carefully put together 120 page limited edition book recounts the making of this classic Stones album with an extensive essay by Nick Kent, embellished with previously unpublished images of the band and lavishly illustrated with metallic gold ink throughout.

https://store.digitalstores.co.uk/rollingstones/*/Sticky-Fingers/Sticky-Fingers-
Super-Deluxe-Edition-Boxset/4ET504YQ000

Tracks
CD 1
1      Brown Sugar      
2      Sway      
3      Wild Horses      
4      Can't You Hear Me Knocking      
5      You Gotta Move      
6      Bitch      
7      I Got The Blues      
8      Sister Morphine      
9      Dead Flowers      
10      Moonlight Mile      
Tracks
CD 2
1      Brown Sugar (Alternate Version with Eric Clapton)      
2      Wild Horses (Acoustic Version)      
3      Can't You Hear Me Knocking (Alternate Version)      
4      Bitch (Extended Version)      
5      Dead Flowers (Alternate Version)      
6      Live With Me (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
7      Stray Cat Blues (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
8      Love In Vain (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
9      Midnight Rambler (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)      
10      Honky Tonk Women (Live The Roundhouse, 1971)      
Tracks
CD 3
1      Jumpin Jack Flash (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
2      Live With Me (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
3      Dead Flowers (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
4      Stray Cat Blues (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
5      Love In Vain (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
6      Midnight Rambler (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
7      Bitch (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
8      Honky Tonk Women (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
9      (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
10      Little Queenie (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
11      Brown Sugar (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
12      Street Fighting Man (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
13      Let It Rock (Live At Leeds University , 1971)      
Tracks
DVD 1
1      Midnight Rambler (Live At The Marquee, 1971)      
2      Bitch (Live At The Marquee, 1971)
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Amazon currently listing Super Deluxe Edition at $299.99, but it is April Fools Day tomorrow in the U.S.

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Reply #105 - Mar 31st, 2015 at 2:46pm
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Amazon currently listing Super Deluxe Edition at $299.99, but it is April Fools Day tomorrow in the U.S.

http://www.amazon.com/Sticky-Fingers-Super-Deluxe-Vinyl/dp/B00UN9PQN4/ref=sr_1_2...


Yes, I returned to Amazon and now I finally found all the versions and that one was not mentioned before

Sticky Fingers (Super Deluxe Box Set 3CD + DVD + Vinyl)


Couldn't resist and it's already ordered
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What's up with this bit of misinformation from rollingstones.com?

http://www.rollingstones.com/2015/03/31/the-rolling-stones-sticky-fingers-lives-...

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A two song DVD? Holy shit! I'm trying to come up with a sarcastic reply, but I cant. Unbelievable. When you release stuff like this, it's no wonder why people pirate it.

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Leeds has not yet been released before right? (as download)

So if I want this, then I would need to buy
de superduper overdeluxpriced boxset..?
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Leeds has not yet been released before right? (as download)

So if I want this, then I would need to buy
de superduper overdeluxpriced boxset..?


No new Leeds on vinyl !!
So we will buy the bootleg ?
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Pirates Bay still up and running?


Yep, Pirate Bay, Demonoid..a few more...no way I'd pay $300 to get Leeds! Can you say Bittorrent?Smiley
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Pirates Bay still up and running?


Yep, Pirate Bay, Demonoid..a few more...no way I'd pay $300 to get Leeds! Can you say Bittorrent?Smiley



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and 7” vinyl with Brown Sugar and Wild Horses


WTF? Is that the one or the one shown in this picture? or in other words the not-sold inventory from the recent "record store day" (Brown Sugar, Bitch and Let it Rock)???

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The Japanese super deluxe edition contains the 3 CDs in SHM!

It's only $154.60 USD instead of $299 by Amazon, not sure if in the Amazon ítem the mentioned "vinyl" is the 7" single of the entire album

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-77211

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Description


[Production Notes] *SHM-CD discs contained in this product are pressed in Japan. Everything else, including packaging and the booklet, is imported into Japan. *Region code of the DVD is unknown.

Super deluxe edition of "Sticky Fingers" release from The Rolling Stones. Consists of 3 CDs (SHM-CD), a DVD, and a 7-inch vinyl. This Japan release exclusively features SHM-CD format. CD1 includes original tracks featuring 2009 remastering. CD2 includes 10 unreleased tracks. CD3 is titled "Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!," featuring all the unreleased tracks except for "Let It Rock." The DVD features "Live At The Marquee." The 7-inch vinyl contains "Brown Sugar" and "Wild Horses." All housed in a box packaging with a 120-page hardback book complete with real zip. Also comes with four postcards, a poster, and a mini replica of band cut out.

Tracklisting


DISC 1

1
[Original Album] Brown Sugar

[Original Album] ブラウン・シュガー

2
[Original Album] Sway

[Original Album] スウェイ

3
[Original Album] Wild Horses

[Original Album] ワイルド・ホース

4
[Original Album] Can't You Hear Me Knocking

[Original Album] キャント・ユー・ヒア・ミー・ノッキング

5
[Original Album] You Gotta Move

[Original Album] ユー・ガッタ・ムーヴ

6
[Original Album] Bitch

[Original Album] ビッチ

7
[Original Album] I Got The Blues

[Original Album] アイ・ガット・ザ・ブルース

8
[Original Album] Sister Morphine

[Original Album] シスター・モーフィン

9
[Original Album] Dead Flowers

[Original Album] デッド・フラワーズ

10
[Original Album] Moonlight Mile

[Original Album] ムーンライト・マイル


DISC 2

1
[Bonus tracks] Brown Sugar (Alternate Version with Eric Clapton)

[Bonus tracks] ブラウン・シュガー (オルタネイト・ヴァージョン・ウィズ・エリック・クラプトン)

2
[Bonus tracks] Wild Horses (Acoustic Version)

[Bonus tracks] ワイルド・ホース (アコースティック・ヴァージョン)

3
[Bonus tracks] Can't You Hear Me Knocking (Alternate Version)

[Bonus tracks] キャント・ユー・ヒア・ミー・ノッキング (オルタネイト・ヴァージョン)

4
[Bonus tracks] Bitch (Extended Version)

[Bonus tracks] ビッチ (エクステンデッド・ヴァージョン)

5
[Bonus tracks] Dead Flowers (Alternate Version)

[Bonus tracks] デッド・フラワーズ (オルタネイト・ヴァージョン)

6
[Bonus tracks] Live With Me (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)

[Bonus tracks] リヴ・ウィズ・ミー (ライヴ・アット・ザ・ラウンドハウス 1971)

7
[Bonus tracks] Stray Cat Blues (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)

[Bonus tracks] ストレイ・キャッツ・ブルース (ライヴ・アット・ザ・ラウンドハウス 1971)

8
[Bonus tracks] Love In Vain (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)

[Bonus tracks] むなしき愛 (ライヴ・アット・ザ・ラウンドハウス 1971)

9
[Bonus tracks] Midnight Rambler (Live At The Roundhouse, 1971)

[Bonus tracks] ミッドナイト・ランブラー (ライヴ・アット・ザ・ラウンドハウス 1971)

10
[Bonus tracks] Honky Tonk Women (Live The Roundhouse, 1971)

[Bonus tracks] ホンキー・トンク・ウイメン (ライヴ・アット・ザ・ラウンドハウス 1971)


DISC 3

1
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Jumpin Jack Flash

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ジャンピン・ジャック・フラッシュ

2
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Live With Me

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] リヴ・ウィズ・ミー

3
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Dead Flowers

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] デッド・フラワーズ

4
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Stray Cat Blues

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ストレイ・キャット・ブルース

5
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Love In Vain

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] むなしき愛

6
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Midnight Rambler

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ミッドナイト・ランブラー

7
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Bitch

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ビッチ

8
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Honky Tonk Women

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ホンキー・トンク・ウイメン

9
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] サティスファクション

10
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Little Queenie

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] リトル・クイーニー

11
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Brown Sugar

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ブラウン・シュガー

12
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Street Fighting Man

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] ストリート・ファイティング・マン

13
[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] Let It Rock

[Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out!] レット・イット・ロック


DISC 4

1
[DVD/Live At the Marquee, 1971] Midnight Rambler

[DVD/Live At the Marquee, 1971] ミッドナイト・ランブラ-

2
[DVD/Live At the Marquee, 1971] Bitch

[DVD/Live At the Marquee, 1971] ビッチ


DISC 5

1
[7-inch Single] A. Brown Sugar

[7インチ・シングル] A. ブラウン・シュガー

2
[7-inch Single] B. Wild Horses

[7インチ・シングル] B. ワイルド・ホース 


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I look forward to the Super Duper Whooper Deluxe version that might just contain a finished version of this as a hidden bonus track....

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A two song DVD? Holy shit! I'm trying to come up with a sarcastic reply, but I cant. Unbelievable. When you release stuff like this, it's no wonder why people pirate it.

Kiss my undercover ass LOL

It is incredible. It's almost like whoever planned this were some how mentally delayed, literally retarded.
It's like some (not so)private joke the Stones are playing (i.e. the 'Ya Ya's' box DVD) to see how much they can piss their fan base off. Weird.

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The Japanese super deluxe edition contains the 3 CDs in SHM!

It's only $154.60 USD instead of $299 by Amazon, not sure if in the Amazon ítem the mentioned "vinyl" is the 7" single of the entire album

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I recommend the Japanese version based on the excellent sound quality and mastering of their SHM CDs of the Stones and other artists.  Getting much more for less here.

Any UICY-Japan CD, even if not SHM, is a better bet for good mastering than any American version. UICY Elton John is astoundingly better than its US competition.  They're putting some engineering pride into it over there - and I suspect some love for the music.
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Ladies and gentlemen... The Rolling Stones live at the Marquee playing the live debut of DVD!!!


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leonid wrote on Apr 1st, 2015 at 3:33am:
A two song DVD? Holy shit! I'm trying to come up with a sarcastic reply, but I cant. Unbelievable. When you release stuff like this, it's no wonder why people pirate it.

Kiss my undercover ass LOL

It is incredible. It's almost like whoever planned this were some how mentally delayed, literally retarded.
It's like some (not so)private joke the Stones are playing (i.e. the 'Ya Ya's' box DVD) to see how much they can piss their fan base off. Weird.



Its clueless

Clearly no interest in polishing up a few leftover songs this time (even though this release has been talked about now for a couple of years).

Five songs from the Roundhouse is a shitty way to release a hitherto uncirculated soundboard recording.  Couldnt they have added the alternate takes on to disc 1 and put the Roundhouse gig in full on disc 2, with Leeds making up disc 3? How fuckin' difficult could that have been?

Its not as if we're getting some kind of sonic upgrade on the released album - its the 2009 remaster theyre using, according to this site - http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/the-rolling-stones-announce-sticky-finger...

And dont get me started on paying silly money to get two uncirculated songs from Leeds and a two-song DVD of a concert that runs for 40 minutes.

Any chance we could borrow Dylan, Springsteen or Elvis' archive people for a few weeks to show the Stones how to do a vaults release in a way that doesn't offer very little for a lot of money?



PS - in case you were getting excited about the 'alternate version' of CYHMK - you might want to sit down. It clocks in at 3:24 (almost four minutes shorter than the released version)

The extended version of 'Bitch' is 5:52 though, which is interesting at least.
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Leeds has not yet been released before right? (as download)

So if I want this, then I would need to buy
de superduper overdeluxpriced boxset..?


Just saw this.

i-tunes has the 3-CD version - ie, including the full Leeds show - for a pretty reasonable £19.99.

Looks like I'll be going the download route this time!
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Mr. Yeats wrote on Apr 3rd, 2015 at 6:06pm:
leonid wrote on Apr 1st, 2015 at 3:33am:
A two song DVD? Holy shit! I'm trying to come up with a sarcastic reply, but I cant. Unbelievable. When you release stuff like this, it's no wonder why people pirate it.

Kiss my undercover ass LOL

It is incredible. It's almost like whoever planned this were some how mentally delayed, literally retarded.
It's like some (not so)private joke the Stones are playing (i.e. the 'Ya Ya's' box DVD) to see how much they can piss their fan base off. Weird.



Any chance we could borrow Dylan, Springsteen or Elvis' archive people for a few weeks to show the Stones how to do a vaults release in a way that doesn't offer very little for a lot of money?


Shit, any chance the Stones could borrow you for a few weeks to show them how it could be done?

I know you've tried to contact them before mate, but now that their three 'iconic' '70s albums have been given the "deluxe" treatment, maybe someone in Stones Inc. might think it would be interesting to bring in a fresh face to show 'em what they got. I'm serious - prove your bonafides (easy), set up a meeting or even a phone call with Don Was or someone else, maybe just a sound engineer, see what happens. 'Black and Blue', 'Undercover' as a testing ground...
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I agree. The 94 disc is my go to version on CD. I ignored the recent reissues due to them getting bad reviews.

Sticky Fingers isn't a summertime stadium party album. Outside of a few tracks, it's not one you'd put on your car stereo on a Saturday night for cruising.

All I want is  anew studio album, but those days are forever over.

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Fraid so.

Not sure where they're going to go with the deluxe reissues after this.  The half arsed way theyve dealt with the bonus studio material on this release suggests they're losing interest.

Mick did say when they did Exile that it was a lot of work, and that how much they put into future releases was dependent on how they sold. Exile sold very well, Some Girls less so and this will probably sell even less unless they  manage to take advantage of the tour and market it well.

I cant see there being much mileage in expanded releases of specific albums after this.  Most of the albums that do have a lot of potential bonus material aren't widely regarded as 'classic' Stones albums (Emotional Rescue, Dirty Work, Voodoo Lounge, Goats Head Soup, etc) and the one remaining mega-selling album that they havent touched yet (Tattoo You) was basically a collection of touched up leftovers to begin with.

Maybe the way forward - especially for a band whose studio material tends to overlap albums with songs being carried over to future sessions - is to make these releases more 'era specific' than 'album specific'. Technically, they've already done this with the Exile and Some Girls - but instead in the future they could just be a bit more honest about the sources of the material.

I'm sure they could cobble together a good 2-CD set of alternates and outtakes from the 1968-69 era that saw them release Beggars, Let It Bleed and a couple of killer singles.  Or a couple of discs worth of material from the Paris era of the late 70s and early 80s' (the just circulated third 'Foxes In The Boxes' disc shows what great stuff there is that really is worthy of a wider release)
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Fraid so.

Not sure where they're going to go with the deluxe reissues after this.  The half arsed way theyve dealt with the bonus studio material on this release suggests they're losing interest.

Mick did say when they did Exile that it was a lot of work, and that how much they put into future releases was dependent on how they sold. Exile sold very well, Some Girls less so and this will probably sell even less unless they  manage to take advantage of the tour and market it well.

I cant see there being much mileage in expanded releases of specific albums after this.  Most of the albums that do have a lot of potential bonus material aren't widely regarded as 'classic' Stones albums (Emotional Rescue, Dirty Work, Voodoo Lounge, Goats Head Soup, etc) and the one remaining mega-selling album that they havent touched yet (Tattoo You) was basically a collection of touched up leftovers to begin with.

Maybe the way forward - especially for a band whose studio material tends to overlap albums with songs being carried over to future sessions - is to make these releases more 'era specific' than 'album specific'. Technically, they've already done this with the Exile and Some Girls - but instead in the future they could just be a bit more honest about the sources of the material.

I'm sure they could cobble together a good 2-CD set of alternates and outtakes from the 1968-69 era that saw them release Beggars, Let It Bleed and a couple of killer singles.  Or a couple of discs worth of material from the Paris era of the late 70s and early 80s' (the just circulated third 'Foxes In The Boxes' disc shows what great stuff there is that really is worthy of a wider release)


Excellent post Gazza, and right on point.

Though it is a bummer to think there most likely won't be a deluxe Beggars or Let It Bleed.
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Excellent post Gazza, and right on point.

Though it is a bummer to think there most likely won't be a deluxe Beggars or Let It Bleed.
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Yep, a 2-CD from the Beggars and Let It Bleed period
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Gazza the Stones should put you in charge of this project. You put more thought into it than they do themselves, and you know the material probably better as well. Gazzapedia The Rolling Stones factual trivia extroidinaire!
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why don't they let an enthusiastic archivist do this work?
would make sense, and there's people who would do it for love and low salary…
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why don't they let an enthusiastic archivist do this work?
would make sense, and there's people who would do it for love and low salary…


Sadly, because (1) they are control freaks, and (2) they don't give a shit anymore.
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I seem to recall during the interviews for the Exile deluxe package, Mick saying they got some input from an outsider re: what was and wasn't available on bootlegs. No idea who, though or how much effort was made.

Doubt they'd let a fan or achivist trawl their way through the mountains of session tapes though - although Dylan's people did precisely that when doing the 'Another Self Portrait' Bootleg Series release - the guy, Andre de Reus I think his name was, did a fantastic job too.
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Wasn't it Don Was who went through their archives? Didn't he give an interview around the EOMS or SG deluxe releases where he talked about various things he'd come across? Or am I hallucinating again?



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Wasn't it Don Was who went through their archives? Didn't he give an interview around the EOMS or SG deluxe releases where he talked about various things he'd come across? Or am I hallucinating again?


he did. He also suggested that the archives were in a real mess with songs from different eras next to each other.
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LOL I made a mistake here, see this post, 146 messages and has been seen only 10 times while the Marquee thread with only 8 replies has been seen 8,500 times

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What about these? Has anything ever turned up regarding these songs?

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The release is now delayed to June 8th (two weeks later) due to a faulty zipper.

Honestly!

http://www.rollingstones.com/2015/04/09/sticky-fingers-rerelease-out-89-june/
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Worth remembering that a few of the leftovers from those sessions were used on "Metamorphosis"


What about these? Has anything ever turned up regarding these songs?

Toss the coin, old glory, silver blanket, etc..




Those three - no, unfortunately.

Probably unfinished, I'd imagine.
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WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 12:48am:
If 'Schoolboy Blues' isn't on this, I will eat a pair of trousers.







It's a fair cop, Gazzolino, or looks to be. If there is no hidden extra detected within 48 hrs of the 8th of June, I will indeed begin nibbling & chewing my way discomfortingly through a moist copy of the SF sleeve.

Perhaps your grumbles about old tracks being tarted up with (new) lyrics for Exhail On Moan Street & Some Grrls did in some tidsy widsy way contribute to the lack of more scintillating extras on SF Deluxe.

Not wanting to pass the buck or anything, but I'll need to momentarily blame someone if/when I choke myself rotten on June the 10th.

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http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-sticky-fingers-delay/

SF release DELAYED 2 weeks

The Rolling Stones Get Their Zipper Stuck


Fans who have been anticipating the release of the reissue of the Rolling Stones‘ 1971 classic Sticky Fingers will have to wait a little bit longer. The band has decided to push the release date back two weeks to June 9 due to a wardrobe malfunction.

The news comes via the Stones’ website, which says that the delay is because “some of the formats contain a hand-made zip which is taking a bit longer to manufacture.” The working zipper will be featured on the Super Deluxe Edition and the Deluxe double-LP versions of the reissue.

Long considered one of their best albums, Sticky Fingers is getting the same treatment that the Rolling Stones have given Exile on Main Street and Some Girls. In addition to being remastered, the Deluxe Edition gives a second disc of alternate versions and live takes, and the Super Deluxe Edition adds a March 1971 show in Leeds and a 120-page hardcover book. You can listen to the previously unreleased all-acoustic “Wild Horses” here.

The Sticky Fingers era has been getting a lot of attention from the Stones camp recently. Earlier this week, they released a 1971 concert from the Marquee as the latest entry in their “From the Vault” series.

They’re also considering playing the album in its entirety on their upcoming ZIP Code Tour, with Mick Jagger saying, “It’s got quite a few slow songs on it. Maybe it’ll work; you gotta see.” But if they do, it will be without the involvement of Mick Taylor, who played on the original album and has been a featured guest on their recent tours.


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OK, fine. And glad to know the Marquee package is already out.

Does everyone who comes into contact with the Stones become an idiot overnight?
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Posted it a couple of days ago and updated the SF thread title to show the new release date, but thanks for the article.

Will splice the two threads.

The Marquee DVD was of course only 'announced' last week - not 'released'.
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Gazza wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 7:37pm:
Posted it a couple of days ago and updated the SF thread title to show the new release date, but thanks for the article.



I have been away a few days...

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LOL...brilliant.

Wait til you hear how many pre-sales there are though.
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I predict the Marquee set will outsell Taylor Swifts latest.

Ya know - with the upcoming tour, Sticky Fingers re-release and the general enthusiasm for the Stones these days.
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MRD8 wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 2:15pm:
Wasn't it Don Was who went through their archives? Didn't he give an interview around the EOMS or SG deluxe releases where he talked about various things he'd come across? Or am I hallucinating again?


he did. He also suggested that the archives were in a real mess with songs from different eras next to each other.



It was actually COURTNEY LOVE who gave that exclusive about EOMS...she and a bandmate were in the studio with WAS and she was amazed at what she was hearing...I have no idea what she was doing in there, but there was a video clip (you tube?) if I recall...and I dont hallucinate...much
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Having recently going through my studio bootleg collection, trimming out the playlists with stuff now officially released ect… adding the new stuff… I really like Gazza's idea of just creating a retrospective of sorts of unreleased stuff, and not trying to make deluxe albums. There's great stuff from GHS onto TY… maybe a a good discs worth or more. Even a few Some girls things missed. Jagger could decide if he wants to create lyrics and vocals for the stuff that needs it. Or leave stuff like Act together w/o vocals… I hate to say it, but do it while you're alive. Criss Cross, Living in The Heart of Love… great songs to kick it off… Travelin' Man too… Early working versions of stuff like demos that exist, just get the tapes and get them to a competent studio mastering person. The stuff they have from ER to TY is just massive… shit, demos alone could make up a disc… and wouldn't require much work...
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Yeah! I'm up for the unreleased stuff. So bored with a dozen or more versions of All Down The Line or, Lovin' Cup etc. Shit! Did I just utter such sacrilege? But seriously, like Keith said on Exile; "I don't like messin' with the bible." Maybe he was misquoted.
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Gazza wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 5:12pm:
MRD8 wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 2:15pm:
Wasn't it Don Was who went through their archives? Didn't he give an interview around the EOMS or SG deluxe releases where he talked about various things he'd come across? Or am I hallucinating again?


he did. He also suggested that the archives were in a real mess with songs from different eras next to each other.



It was actually COURTNEY LOVE who gave that exclusive about EOMS...she and a bandmate were in the studio with WAS and she was amazed at what she was hearing...I have no idea what she was doing in there, but there was a video clip (you tube?) if I recall...and I dont hallucinate...much


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Christ ! How many times can they re-issue, re-master , re-package these records. I've got an idea that starts with RE. Make a fucking REcord  When did my favorite band turn into the Beach Boys?  I guess the erly 2000's.  Who buys this crap?  It's the same fucking songs!!
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Christ ! How many times can they re-issue, re-master , re-package these records. I've got an idea that starts with RE. Make a fucking REcord  When did my favorite band turn into the Beach Boys?  I guess the erly 2000's.  Who buys this crap?  It's the same fucking songs!!


Thank you. First we had the real momentum and energy behind Exile, then the let's just get this out attitude with Some Girls, and then the let's fuck over all our fans and pretend this is different than the original release and charge them an arm and a leg for it and make the live tickets insanely expensive to add insult to injury. I've never been less excited about any Stones release or tour.
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Don Was on the Stones and the Sticky Fingers deluxe  :


http://radio.com/2015/04/22/don-was-interview-rolling-stones-sticky-fingers-reis...

Speaking of the Stones, they just announced that they’re reissuing [1971’s] Sticky Fingers. I know you work on all of their reissues. Anything you can tell me about working on this one?

Unlike the other two that we worked on, [1972’s] Exile on Main Street and [1978’s] Some Girls, the actual outtake stockpile for Sticky Fingers is pretty much depleted. The stuff that didn’t go on Sticky Fingers went on Exile on Main Street. And the stuff that might have been left over from that ended up on [1981’s] Tattoo You. And a couple of songs that maybe didn’t make it on to Tattoo You, we worked on and finished for the [2010] Exile reissue. There’s a lot of over bleed—no pun intended—between [1969’s] Let It Bleed, [1968’s] Beggars Banquet, Sticky Fingers and Exile, but particularly Sticky Fingers and Exile. There just wasn’t enough stuff that no one had heard before.

The thing that will make this one different is the alternate takes, like “Brown Sugar” with Eric Clapton and the acoustic “Wild Horses.” But they’re all just different versions of songs. The bonus disc is rounded out with some live performances. It’s a little different from Exile and Some Girls in that we didn’t go back and try to finish anything.


When did the Stones record “Brown Sugar” with Eric Clapton?

I think it was recorded at a party in the studio and Clapton was there. It was a casual undertaking. They have a lot of versions of a lot of songs. They always chose the right ones, by the way.

Even without bonus tracks, Sticky Fingers is such a classic.

I’ve often spoken with the Stones about one of the advantages of vinyl being that it was just 36 to 40 minutes long, and there was no tolerance for filler. You had to self-edit constantly. A couple of the records we’ve done together, I’d prepared 36 minute versions for them. I know we did it for [1994’s] Voodoo Lounge and I think we did it for 1997’s Bridges to Babylon too. Some of them, if they were 36 minutes instead of 72 minutes, they would absolutely hold up to Let It Bleed and those older albums. But those days are gone.

I think that Keith Richards came into his own as a balladeer during your era as the band’s producer (1994- the present). On Voodoo Lounge, he sang “The Worst” and “Thru and Thru.”

My favorite was “How Can I Stop” from Bridges to Babylon. It’s almost a bonus track because it comes way at the end of a record.

You once told me that you had to include “How Can I Stop” as sort of a bonus track because Keith already sang “You Don’t Have To Mean It” and “Thief in the Night” on that album, and Mick didn’t want Keith to sing three songs on an album.

[Laughs] That song, I thought that was their version of what Brian Wilson just did with “The Last Song.” I thought that was their coda when they did it. It was such a contentious album to make. And it was the last song that we cut. Charlie had a limo waiting in the alley behind the studio to take him to the airport to fly back to England as soon as we got the take. We had to get the take done. I remember thinking, “Wow, this is the last song the Rolling Stones are ever going to record.” I thought it was a historic moment.

But as it turned out, Charlie came back [later] and we recorded something else for the album, and 20 years later, they’re still going.

I think that “One More Shot” [one of the two new songs on the 2012 compilation GRRR!] would be a great final song.

The next line is, “that’s all I got.”

Well, it would be a good coda, if it is, in fact, their last song.

I think they’ll play until they drop, but I don’t know if they’ll make records anymore.

Will you see them on this tour?

Oh absolutely, I’m going to be in my hometown of Detroit when they play there, so I’m absolutely going to go see them.
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If Don Was doesn't know if they will record again that throws a damper on our new album hopes I think......
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First time I've read that some of the bonus material on the Exile reissue was actually material left over from Tattoo You.

Some of the historical revisionism of what is passed off as 'outtakes' on these deluxe editions is staggering.

If only someone would get access to their studio logs and document it all properly, like Lewisohn did with the Beatles' sessionography, Jorgenson did with Elvis and Heylin, Krogsgaard and others have done with Dylan.  Maybe then we'd have a chance of getting archive releases that are a more accurate and comprehensive representation of their recorded history.

It deserves a better legacy than the bewildering mess that it's currently in.
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Perhaps M & R's notebooks could be published - in gay binding - in 20 years, revealing extensive minor details from which a team of hard-nosed scholars could ascertain exactly which moment each word, idea, concept,  riff, groove, bass-line, middle-eight, demo, pre-lyric, lyric, re-demo, re-recording, edit, backing vocal, re-edit, lyric shift, mix, remix and master occurred, so that one could chart a ditty's evolution from, say, 1971-ish to 1981 or 2011.

Meanwhile, as long as Charlie's playing on it, all is more than good-ish in the world, surely?






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First time I've read that some of the bonus material on the Exile reissue was actually material left over from Tattoo You.

Some of the historical revisionism of what is passed off as 'outtakes' on these deluxe editions is staggering.

If only someone would get access to their studio logs and document it all properly, like Lewisohn did with the Beatles' sessionography, Jorgenson did with Elvis and Heylin, Krogsgaard and others have done with Dylan.  Maybe then we'd have a chance of getting archive releases that are a more accurate and comprehensive representation of their recorded history.

It deserves a better legacy than the bewildering mess that it's currently in.



I may be reading between the lines, but I think The SG and Exile reissues both are TY leftovers, no?
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I may be reading between the lines, but I think The SG and Exile reissues both are TY leftovers, no?



Its quite likely that some of the Some Girls Deluxe stuff was, but he specifically mentions only that some Exile sessions were considered for TY and then used for Exile deluxe

The stuff that didn’t go on Sticky Fingers went on Exile on Main Street. And the stuff that might have been left over from that ended up on [1981’s] Tattoo You.


this comment though :
And a couple of songs that maybe didn’t make it on to Tattoo You, we worked on and finished for the [2010] Exile reissue

could mean either 'a couple of the songs left over from Exile' or simply 'a couple of the songs (ie from various sessions) that were finished up for Tattoo You were eventually released on the Exile reissue'

The Exile reissue contains material recorded for 'Satanic Majesties' as far back as 1967 (ie, 'Title 5'), despite Mick's insistence that the earliest material sourced was 'Loving Cup' in summer 1969.

I wouldnt be surprised if some, if not all of the basic tracks for Following The River, Pass The Wine and Plundered My Soul post-dated Exile.  For the SG reissue, "Tallahassee Lassie" (Hollywood, September 1978) and "We Had It All" (Paris, summer 1979) were definitely recorded some time after 'Some Girls' came out and are from the sessions that produced 'Emotional Rescue'.
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Thanks Gazza, after reading this thread I'm not even sure if this is real Sticky Fingers material, or just leftovers labeled as SF for the re-release. They r treating this like "Whatever". Thats a Jersey term for who gives a shit!
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Well all the songs released on Sticky Fingers - apart from Sister Morphine - were recorded after 'Let It Bleed' came out, so they'd all be material from December 1969 through to summer 1970. So they're alternate takes of Sticky Fingers songs OK.

They just didnt bother touching up any of the material they'd left off Sticky Fingers (as they did for the Exile and SG reissues) - part of the reason being that they didnt have much left.

Almost half of the 1972 release of Exile On Main Street was 'Sticky Fingers' leftovers to begin with, and so as they had to be a bit economical with the truth to describe much of the bonus material on Exile Deluxe as 'Exile outtakes' , the amount of material that overlapped between Sticky Fingers, Exile and the Exile deluxe bonus disc didnt really leave much for an additional disc of SF material - so they just used a few alternate takes or mixes of released songs instead.
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It has the rhythm of Sympathy.....almost hear Mick singing "Please allow me to introduce myself"......doesn't yet have the Santana latin feel.....interesting guitar work
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I think it's fascinating.  It's clear from this version CYHMK is a close relative of, or perhaps descendant of, Highway Child.
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Nice enough as a jam and pretty interesting musically to see how the song developed - but I'm amazed that after the effort Mick put in to finish leftover songs on the previous two expanded releases, that a recording with him merely mouthing vocal sounds with hardly any lyrics other than the song's title is now deemed to be worthy of an official release.
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Not just an official release...an official pre-release!

Can't wait to hear what's on the Japanese only release...
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I heard its an alternate take of 'Sway' with Mick doing a guide vocal whilst singing with a bucket over his head.  Its also been remixed slightly so that you can just about make out Rocky Dijon on spoons.  But only if you listen on a Thursday.
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That is odd...I heard the same thing.
The Japanese fans are sooooo lucky
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I think it's fascinating.  It's clear from this version CYHMK is a close relative of, or perhaps descendant of, Highway Child.



Now that you mention it....Yeah!... In the middle, there, The "Can't you see by now, I'm a highway child" lyrics would fit nicely.
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That is odd...I heard the same thing.
The Japanese fans are sooooo lucky

They'll buy 5 million copies.
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munichhilton wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:10pm:
That is odd...I heard the same thing.
The Japanese fans are sooooo lucky

They'll buy 5 million copies.


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What the fuck is Mick singing/mumbling on this new track??? I gotta know!
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Shattered Stone, a big THANK YOU for posting the link to Knockin ~ it was so interesting that now I want to hear more! SO if there are no brand new songs on the SF release, the unfinished songs will still be new-ish.  I'm convinced now that it will be good enough to buy.
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Re: Sticky Fingers reissue June 8, 2015 (new release date)
Reply #188 - Apr 30th, 2015 at 2:02pm
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Shattered Stone wrote on Apr 29th, 2015 at 5:21pm:
What the fuck is Mick singing/mumbling on this new track??? I gotta know!



Its what Keith has often described as  'vowel movements'
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Can you say scraping the bottom of the barrel?Wink
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Is there a full transcript yet of the proto-CYHK vowel sounds?

Can ya hear me knocki',
yeah, and I'm goin' maad,
Can ya hear me knockin'
yeah, got the g'itar bad now...


You can't knock my hearing

but what in the second verse and thereafter?




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Listen to an Extended Version of the Rolling Stones’ ‘Bitch’


http://www.spin.com/2015/05/rolling-stones-bitch-extended-version-sticky-fingers...
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definitely on Bitch, there's a highway child connection, it's so obvious in the lyrics… highways child may be 1/2 the songs on sticky fingers, in development...
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Can you see i'm the only one  from highway child

Jagger got the right voice !!

Great rough version , unbelievable guitars players .
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Surprised no one has posted this yet

The alternate 'Bitch'

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Gazza wrote on May 5th, 2015 at 6:37pm:
Surprised no one has posted this yet

The alternate 'Bitch'

http://vevo.ly/rujOW4


LOL I just found it... in our FB page


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It was, three posts up.  taylor made smile
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Sloppy garage singing! I love it!
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munichhilton wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:18am:
Not just an official release...an official pre-release!Couldn't agree more Gaz. Seems he may either gone grunge or just lazy. Well, he his an OAP now ...What!

Can't wait to hear what's on the Japanese only release...

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LONDON – “Boogie, Bobby, boogie,” Marshall Chess is saying over and over to Bobby Keys in the seat next to him, slamming out the phrase and laughing as they talk about old-time saxophone rides.

“Booo-gey, Booo-gey,” Anita Richard, née Pallenberg, is sing-songing in the back of the plane, making the word sound like an errant German nickname for Humphrey Bogart.

Boogie, a small brown and white puppy dog, is about to fall asleep in the arms of Anita’s husband, Keith. The doors of the midnight flight from Glasgow to London are about to close. Conversations buzz and hum. Only the tops of heads and the outsides of elbows are visible.

What could be nicer? Flying home from Glasgow in the midnight hour after two good shows before packed houses of people from out of 1957 (brass-blonde ladies screaming and clutching at their heads whenever Mick showed his ass to the audience).

Contentment positively flows from seat to seat, the engines are about to rev, it’s five, four, three, two minutes to take-off – when down the aisle comes a blue-jacketed airline official, all the way to the back seat where Keith and his dog recline. And the official says: “That dog flies by prior arrangement only, sir, you’ll have to get off the plane.”

“What?”

“I’m sorry sir, I warned you in the airport. How you managed to slip by me on to the plane I don’t know but you’ll have to get off now.”

“Look, I’ve flown BEA, TWA, Pan-Am.” Keith Richards, singer, composer, lead guitar player, Rolling Stone, is reciting a list of every airline he’s ever been on. “To San Francisco, to places you or this airline have never been …”


“You have to supply a box, sir.”

“I happen to know that section of the Geneva Convention very well; you have to supply the box. This is ridiculous. It’s an emergency. My wife and family are here, we have to get home to take my child to a doctor tomorrow.”

“I’m sorry, sir.”

“We just want to get home. Is it that important? Just let us leave.”

“The rules, sir.”

“I know the rules. Get this plane going, we’re not moving.” Exit the official. Re-enter the official with two large blue Scottish policemen.

“Ere, wot’s the law doin’ ’ere? Come to arrest us all, have you? Oy, you you, oy.” A big Scottish cop is doing his best to ignore Mick Jagger, who is lying flat on his backbone in a seat, naked to the waist save for a blue nylon windbreaker someone has thrown over him after he gave away his sweaty T-shirt on stage.

“Oy, oy,” Mick says loudly, a saucy schoolboy trying to get the police to notice. He reaches out to jangle at the cop’s sleeve. “Now now, chummy,” the cop says, leaning over. “No one’s done nothin’ yet, why should we arrest anyone?”

“He’s come to arrest the dog,” Keith says.

“Wot you doin’ ’ere?” Mick demands of the cop, “A little dog like that. A puppy.” His face falls. “You should be ashamed.”

“Ooo called the law,” he wails. “Arrest us.”

“Chummy,” the cop says, “I wouldn’t give you the publicity.” “Chummy?” Mick demands. “Sir … look …”

“Don’t curse me, I saw you say fuck, don’t go curse me …” Beautiful, Mick. All they have to do is search the luggage and it’s 20 years in the Glasgow jail. “Anita,” Mick says, “Go find the captain.”

Beautiful, Mick. Mata Hari Anita, all crocheted stockings and tiger hot pants, sent to seduce the captain of the airplane as it stands on a runway in Glasgow.

“Goooo,” Mick googles. Marlon, Keith’s 18-month-old son, googles back and laughs. The cop is outflanked, bewildered, surrounded by little kids, slinky ladies, rock stars. Mick … beautiful.

“We’ll put him in Charlie Watts’ orange bag,” Marshall Chess the solution maker says, meaning the dog, “Is that OK?”

“Yes,” says the cop. “No,” says the airline official.

“You brought him on this plane and now the two of you can’t agree,” Keith shouts. “How about mah vulture,” Bobby Keys yells out. “Can ah keep him up hyeah?”

“How ‘bout mah rattlesnake?” Jim Price asks.

Words whizzing like bricks in a street fight and … the cops and the official are losing it.

“Ya Scots git, get off the plane.”

“Arrest us,” Mick demands.

A hurried conference at the front of the plane. Stewardesses and captains, cops and officials, the flight is 15 minutes late already because of one small dog and 20 crazies.

“We’ll link arms.”

“Arrest us,” Mick demands. “Put the dog in the orange bag and he can ride in the hold,” the official says.

“What’s your name?” Keith demands.

“Never you mind. It’s not important.”

“Ah, but it is. If this dog dies, I’ll see that it becomes important … If he freezes to death …”

They trundle the dog off and put him in the hold, and an hour and a half later the plane touches down in London. Boogie doesn’t freeze to death at all but instead comes spilling and sliding out on to the polished airport floor.

Everyone speeds home in chauffeur-driven Bentleys and long black Dorchester limousines and the incident is quickly forgotten, just another minor laugh-filled moment with the Rolling Stones on tour. Or, as Bobby Keys shouted on sweaty night in a Newcastle dressing room, with his arm wrapped about Charlie Watts’ head, “Gawdammit Chawlie, rock‘n‘roll is on the road agayn.”



IN THE five years since the Rolling Stones last toured England, they have made so much money through album sales and concert tours of Europe and America that they find themselves in the 97% tax bracket in their own country. They have become the first rock‘n‘roll band to be forced into stylish W Somerset Maugham-type exile in the south of France.

Along with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, they are the last of the utter superstar bands – modern-day lords totally cared for and looked after, whose only responsibility it is to keep their heads in a place that enables them to keep on making music.

It’s been a year since Allen Klein had anything to do with representing their corporate interests. Their recording contract with Decca has lapsed. On their European tour, they were accompanied by Marshall Chess, the son of the good Jewish businessman who established and ran Chess Records. His presence on the English tour signals the start of something new for the Stones – incorporation on a scale no band except the Beatles has ever undertaken.

The Rolling Stones record label will most likely be distributed by Kinney National, which owns Atlantic, Warners-Reprise and Elektra. The deal has been in the works for months, but the contract still remains unsigned. The Stones label will be run by their own international corporation based in Geneva, with branches in London and New York.

Marshall Chess and the Stones will direct activities. The Rolling Stones record logo will be a stuck-out tongue and the first album to carry it has a cover designed by Andy Warhol featuring a pair of blue jeans with a zipper that really works.

Entitled Sticky Fingers, it will be the first entirely new Rolling Stones album in the 17 months since Let It Bleed. The album has 10 tracks: Bitch, Brown Sugar, You Got to Move [sic], Dead Flowers, I Got the Blues, Sister Morphine, Keep A-Knockin’ [sic], Wild Horses, Sway and Moonlight Mile. Only Wild Horses has been heard before, as a part of the Gimme Shelter soundtrack and as the final cut on a Burrito Brothers album.

The album should be out by the third week in April but there are still some vocals that may be re-recorded. A year of work has gone into it, about £42,000 (over $100,000) of time and effort.

Forthcoming albums should include solo efforts by Bill and Keith, Keith possibly together with Gram Parsons, the ex-Byrd and Burrito. The Rolling Stones’ corporate assets also include Mick Jagger’s house in the English countryside, left vacant by his move to France. It is being outfitted as a total live-in recording studio complete with cooks, fireplaces, and round-the-clock facilities. It can be rented for £2,500 ($6,000) a week.

There is also the “rock truck”, £100,000 ($250,000) worth of 16-track equipment packed into a large trailer truck that has been painted flat khaki (“for camouflage,” Marshall Chess says). The truck converts any building it is parked outside into a studio. It rents for £1,500 ($3,600) a week.

Much of the energy and direction for what the Stones are about to get into comes from Marshall Chess, who bubbles nearly all the time and gets so knocked out by the music the Stones make, it sometimes seems he might be doing it all even if there was no money involved.

The Stones have spent their lives listening to Chess records. Now, with 29-year-old Marshall Chess to advise them, they’re going to make their own.

Empty King’s Cross main line station on a cold, clear Thursday that feels like November in New York. One penny for the toilets and the pay phones don’t work. The 12 o’clock train for Doncaster, York, Darlington, Newcastle, Dunbar, Edinburgh and Aberdeen is leaving from track eight.

Pianist Nicky Hopkins, who went to California for a week and stayed two years, is on board and off again, and again, snapping pictures of anything that doesn’t move, the station, Cadbury chocolate wrappers, as long as it’s typically English. Mr Session Man, with a beautiful hangdog face and a camera always dangling from his neck. Bobby Keys and Jim Price, the Texas Horns, most recently on the road with Delaney and Bonnie and Joe Cocker’s Mad Dogs and Englishmen. Bill Wyman and his lady, Astrid. Charlie Watts, dapper, being seen off by his father: “Awrite, Charlie, I don’t wanna go. Let me off.”

A trainman with a green flag in his pocket comes down the line, closing doors. The two Micks, Jagger and Taylor, catch a later train. Keith misses that one too and is driven up. Sudden small flakes of snow come swirling as the train eases out of the station to the north.

Newcastle, a gray, scruffy, soulful city on the Tyne River, in the part of England nearest Scotland. Without any sound tests and only a week of rehearsal, the Stones begin the tour there with two concerts. They are still one of the killer bands of all time.

Opening with Jumping Jack Flash, Mick in a pink sateen suit and a multi-coloured jockey’s hat. Then into Live With Me, Dead Flowers off the new album, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain with Mick Taylor doing two totally controlled solos that soar nightly. Then Prodigal Son, Keith picking and stringing on an acoustic guitar as Mick stands next to him and sings.

Midnight Rambler, as it breaks down, is six, eight, 10, or 12 bars of basic blues, depending on how long it takes Keith to sling one guitar over his head and get another on and tuned and launch the song’s driving riff. Then, everybody pushing to one ending and the psychodrama begins, with just the bass pulsing away and the lights blue and eerie in Mick’s face.

Off comes the studded black belt, Mick is down on his knees, “Beggin’ with ya bay-bay, uh, uh … Go down on me bay-bay, uh, uh.” Rising slow and sinister to “Wahl, you heard about de Boston …”, stretching and stretching the second syllable, dangling the belt up behind his shoulder, then slashing it to the floor as the band crashes it in back of him and all the lights come up. “Honey, it’s not one a’ those –”

“OOOOOOOOOooh.”

Every night, there’s this sharp intake of breath, nervous giggles, little girls finally getting hip to what it’s all about as that belt crashes down and the band hits everything in sight as the lights come up on Mick, hunched over and prowling like and evil old man. Then Bitch with Bobby Keys and Jim Price blowing circles you can stomp in. A “song for all the whores in the audience”, Honky Tonk Women, followed by a long unrecognisable intro that always fools everyone because it leads into Satisfaction.

Most nights the crowd is solidly crazed by this point, rocking down the aisles, idiot dancing in the balcony, middle-aged ladies bumping obscenely in toreador pants (1957!), skinheads gently waltzing ushers round in circles.

Rock‘n‘roll may never die. Little Queenie, Brown Sugar, and then Street Fighting Man, with Mick flinging a wicker basket of yellow daffodils into the house, petals floating down through spotlight beams as he leaps four feet in the air and screams.

Between shows, the dressing room is quiet, calm, Bill asking no one in particular, “Do ya remember carryin’ an amp about Newcastle in a wheelbarrow?” as Keith jiggles Marlon up and down.

The second show at Newcastle is better than the first. Nicky Hopkins, cigarette dangling out the corner of his mouth, two bottles of whisky on the piano, honky-tonking all the way, moving only from the wrists down. Chip Monck, the voice of Woodstock, right beside him with headphones on, doing his gentle 1958 duck-walk skate, cueing lights, monitoring feedback, ripping cords.

Keith, corkscrewing his body in ever-tighter circles as he gets off, his earring swings into view, turning his back to the audience to see-saw into Charlie’s big Gretsch bass drum. Charlie is chopping things to rhythms, doubling up, drumming against himself, jack o’lantern face turned to one side, mouth open.

“Curtain call, chappies,” a Stones roadie says when it’s over.

“They don’t do curtain calls,” their publicity lady says. “No one is leaving,” Chip Monck says, sticking his head in the door.

“Should we, then?” Mick asks.

“What do we do?” Keith says.

“Uh, Peggy Sue?”

They pour through a narrow door and file back on stage into a cosmos of light and noise for their first encore in three years (not a single one on the European tour): Sympathy for the Devil, followed by Chuck Berry’s Let it Rock.

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Cannes, France, 20th May 1971, Guitarist with British pop group "The Rolling Stones", Keith Richards, is pictured in the South of France  (Photo by Popperfoto/Getty Images)

The concert over, there’s a long white starched table set for 40 people back at the hotel. A beggar’s banquet trailing away in the middle of a ballroom. Forty clear glass tumblers all in a line. Knife, spoon, fork set perfectly and repeated 40 times. At two in the morning, surrealism, Rolling Stones variety.

Marshall Chess sits across from Mick.

Mick’s lady, Bianca, sits next him in a white linen cape and a wide-brim pushed-back hat. She has a face so beautiful as to be insolent: high cheekbones, sweeping facial planes, a cruel mouth, features that became oriental in repose.

“More than 20 minutes on a side and you lose level,” Marshall is saying, “You know that. It’s how they cut the grooves. So we have to work out the running order …”

Down the table a ways, Jim Price asks Charlie Watts, “You dig Skinnay Ennis, the cat who blew that solo in We Meet and the Angels Sing?”

“Fantastic,” Charlie says, sounding a little like Cary Grant.

“That was Ziggy Elman,” someone says.

“He’s from mah home town,” Jim Price smiles.

“Who?”

“We can begin distribution right away to key spots throughout the States. We’re gonna use one picture worldwide to advertise it and it’ll have an international number. That’s a first,” Marshall says proudly.

“He’s dead,” Jim Price notes.

“Who?”

“Skinnay Ennis.”

“You mean Ziggy Elman, man?”

They’re both dead,” Charlie says sadly. Shaking his head.

“Henry Busse too,” Jim says. “On I Can’t Get Started With You.”

“Fantastic,” Charlie says, exploding it like a soft cymbal crash with brushes.

“We’ll send you a test pressing by air,” Marshall says, “and you send me back a dub … ”

“You’ll send me one too,” Charlie demands loudly.

“We will, Charlie,” Marshall says, a little surprised.

Charlie smiles. “Just addin’ to the bravodo.”

“Ah am going to burn down this goddahmn hotel if ah don’t find mah suitcase,” Bobby Keys says, in a voice made lauder by the fact that it’s in England. “Goddamn … ah’ll throw Chawlie Watts out a window … What that? Slide one of them on mah plate, lady,” he orders a waitress. “You know what these rolls are good for?”

“Oh-oh,” Jim Price says softly, knowing the answer.

Whang, a roll comes spinning through the air.

“You know what these glasses are good for?” Bobby asks rhetorically.

“Will you do it that way, Mick?” Marshall asks. “Will you? If we cut Moonlight Mile to four verses and make up a running order so that the guy in the States can get started on the sleeves?”

Mumble mumble, Mick’s head is down, speaking to Bianca. It’s 4am now. He raises his head, looks a little glazed. He says, “What, Marshall?”

One morning in a TV floodlit hotel lobby, a very proper BBC interviewer asked Mick Jagger, “Ahah, ahem, John Lennon, in his interview in Rolling Stone magazine, said that the Rolling Stones always did things after the Beatles did them. Are you then too planning to break up?”

Mick’s face widened and he broke into his haw-haw laugh. “Charlie, are we goin’ a break up then then? Are ya getting’ tired of all this?” As Charlie crept around the outside of cameras asking, “Who’s he? Who is that?”

“Naw, we’re not breakin’ up,” Mick said, “And if we did, we wouldn’t be as bitchy as them.”

THE STONES, still together today, are separately becoming the people they want to be. Charlie, the oldest, could be drumming with a jazz quartet, playing nightly gigs in small clubs in Sweden or Denmark. Bill wears fine clothes, likes white wine, smokes small cigars. Mick Taylor is younger than anyone, as much a part of things as he wants to be, a fine blues guitarist. Keith drives the band on stage, pushes the changes. He and Anita are the undisputed king and queen of funk and inner space. Mick Jagger, 26 years old, is very much the man of the world, always whoever he wants to be on a given night, in the process of becoming European.

Consider the madness they have witnessed together. Ian Stewart, called “Stew,” looks like just another roadie as he hovers by the amps while the Stones are on stage. He plays piano all over their albums and has been around since the beginning.

“In a place like Birkenhead, say,” Bill Wyman says, “we’d go out and start, ‘I’m gonna tell you how it’s gonna be …,’ three bars and unnnnnn they’d come sweepin’ all over the stage and finished … back in the hotel with a thousand quid. Girls leapin’ from 40-foot balconies and arrows in the paper nest day showin’ where she jumped from …

“I remember only one audience back then that didn’t like us from the start. All the factories in Glasgow close at the same time. Scots week, they call it. They all go to Blackpool and drink and we played there on the last Saturday night. They were evil. A six-foot stage so all you could see was heads. About 30 of ’em spittin’ on us. Long hair, I guess, and their birds fancyin’ us. Keith was covered in it. Finally he said to one guy, you do that again and … well, the guy did it. Keith kicked him in the head. They all come at us. We ran right into a police car.

“Stew come back to the hotel later with a little piece of wood hangin’ off a wire, a little tiny piece, and said, here’s what’s left of your piano. Smashed the amps, twisted cymbals. Wasn’t our gear though, we were usin’ someone else’s.”

“You’ll never see that again, I don’t think,” Bill says.

One night in 1965, on their first American tour, the Stones play at Ithaca College in upstate New York. No fainters or swooners, no screamers or jellybaby throwers, no roaring insanity. For the first time in a year and a half, the Stones are able to hear themselves live. “Bloody awful we were,” Bill smiles.

Saturday night in Coventry, Mick Jagger is wearing a black and white checked jacket, sitting with hands folded, drinking red wine at a restaurant between shows.

“Forget my name, you bastard, you and all your Rolling Stones,” a girl cries as she’s hustled out the door by one of the Stones’ managers.

“Boring, isn’t it?” Mick sighs, taking a sip of wine.

Bianca is talking about going gambling somewhere. A few nights ago in Manchester, Mick, Marshall, and Bianca found a casino that only let you lose and Mick dropped more than anyone, about £300. “You even play gin rummy in a foreign language,” Marshall tells Bianca. So far on the tour he owes her $8,000 in rummy debts. “But the dealer in Manchester, he was terrible …”

“Dealing out of a shoe, probably had three decks in there,” someone offers.

“Ah, if we had won, we’d be sayin’ how good he was, wouldn’t we, Mick?” Marshall asks.

Mick looks up, pauses, and says, “I really don’t care.”

And there is this silence that seems to grow around the phrase, before and after, like when the Stones sing Wild Horses on stage and no one knows what to do with it. It stops everyone cold. They have to think.

Mick doesn’t care.

“Oh, that was last night, huh?” Marshall says, picking up on it.

“Tu vas changer le choix?” Bianca asks Mick. The first show was notable. A quiet country audience in peaceful Coventry was sitting politely and watching. Mick didn’t throw them flowers in Street Fighting Man and Chip Monck played God Save the Queen as soon as it was over.

“Drunken bitch,” Mick notes, as one of the band’s ladies wobbles by. “She won’t lose weight that way, will she?” He sighs, “There’s nothing to do but bitch, is there?”

“Intermission’s over,” a manager says. “Time to go.”

“No,” Mick says flatly, “Don’t wanna. Oh fucking why? They sold all the tickets here in three hours and then they come and just sit there.”

“Let’s go out and tread the boards then, Mick,” Charlie says, doing a little soft shoe, making him smile.

“Yeah. A tap dance. Oh, it’s all right. Why do they have to sit there though? C’mon then. Same show, if it’s the same audience. Maybe we’ll even knock out a number and go home early.”

And of course, just like in the movies, the second show is a bitch and Mick and the boys incite the crowd to riot. Charlie cooks. The lights go all purple and green against a white painted wooden stage floor. Everyone sweats and goes home happy.

In Bobby Keys’ dressing room before one show, his ever-present cassette tape recorder is spooling out Buddy Holly singing, “Are you ready? Are you ready? Ready, ready, ready to rock’n’roll.”

“Mah golden saxophone is coin’ up now,” Bobby says as the next song comes on. Indeed, Bobby Keys – who looks about 18 after a good night – actually played with Buddy Holly, recorded with him at K-triple L radio in Texas, and was on the first Alan Freed show at the Brooklyn Paramount which featured the Everly Brothers, Clyde McPhatter, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, all backed by Sam “the Man” Taylor’s big band. Bobby is pushing 29. “Ah been on the road 16 goddahm years,” he says, “That whay I am the way I am.”

And so saying, he pulled on his black tigerskin and velvet jacket, over his special ruffled black shirt and went out on stage to blow with one of the last real rock’n’roll bands around.

“Oh, who listens to Berry any more,” Mick Jagger asks on the flight to Glasgow. This day, he is wearing a long brushed grey suede maxi-coat, a tight ribbed sweater, and a blue printed cap perched on the back of his head. He is looking very French.

“I mean I haven’t listened to that stuff in years. Rock’n’roll has always been made by white suburban kids, bourgeois kids. Elton John is a fine example. For God’s sake, I listen to the MC5. Rock‘n’roll’s not over. I don’t like to see one thing end until I see another beginning. Like when you break up with a woman. Do you know what I mean?”

In Glasgow, one of life’s cheap plastic dramas: Green’s Playhouse. Paint peeling off all the walls. Six inches of soot in the air vents. Bare bulbs backstage and fluorescent tunes for house lights. The third balcony is closed to “keep the raytes doon”.

A group that’s been together for a week is filling in before the Stones’ first set and the first two numbers they do are Jagger-Richard compositions. Third-generation rock.

Rab Monroe, their lead singer, on his way into the dressing room passes Mick Jagger, on his way out. A hot seedy cramped corridor in the basement of a Glasgow theatre. They actually brush shoulders. Twenty-three-year-old Rab … 26-year-old Mick. Kid, you’ll never know.

Mick misses the train to Bristol even though he’s on the platform when it pulls out. He doesn’t want to run for it. No one expects Keith, Anita, baby, and dog to make trains. Along with Gram Parsons they’ve become a separate travelling entity.

The kids in Bristol may be sharp as a pistol but the ushers are thick, bearded wrestlers in silk suits who stand facing out in front of the stage and stop anyone from dancing. Mick celebrates Street Fighting Man by placing small mounds of flowers on each of their heads, a baptismal offering. The kids dance. The Stones do an encore.

During the second show, an usher drags a pretty painted young girl off stage. Mick kicks him in the shoulder.

In Brighton, a German magazine crew in wet leather and plastic chosen by Erich Von Stroheim from central casting, come looking for “Mikk Jagga, ja?” The hall is a big barn of a discotheque, so hot no one can stay in tune. A greasy, sweaty gig. Three kids down front do a snapper in the middle of Little Queenie and for the rest of the song their faces blur and flow with the music.

In Liverpool, Mick shows up with his hair cut. Glyn Johns is along to record. Keith has missed the train. The jet that will get him to the theatre in plenty of time breaks down. So does the prop they replace him with. He arrives an hour late with Anita, who is essentially naked in silver lamé and a push-’em-up, grab-’em bra over what looks like bare skin.

Mick and Bianca slouch on a couch waiting. “You been on the road for 18 months now Marlon,” Mick says. “How do you like this life?

The Stones finally go on to do the only bad show of the tour. Others have been less than perfect musically but there has always been electricity, excitement, some kind of contact. This time, nothing. For the Stones, that is. The set itself is not unrepresentative, and for someone else it might be a good show.

In the dressing room after, Bill looks sadder than usual, really unhappy. “I’m just saying don’t be so brought down,” Keith tells him.

“I just want everyone to say it was shit,” Bill says. “The queued for five hours and …”

“They don’t know the difference, Bill,” his lady says. “They enjoyed themselves. It doesn’t matter to them.”

“We were shit,” Bill insists.

“Ah was great,” Bobby Keys beams, trying to make it better. “Ah was fantastic. Ah carried y’all.” There are a few weak smiles.

“I don’t care,” Mick Jagger says. “I don’t give a shit. When I’m on stage, maybe, but now I’m off. Right now, I’m petting this little dog here, that’s what I care about.” He gets off the couch and walks out slowly.

“What we need is a joint,” someone says.

“Yeah. Where are the dope dealers?” Gram Parsons asks. He sticks his head out into the hall. “Dope dealers?”

Two minutes later, Mick Jagger, who some will tell you is the devil incarnate, so blasé that he can’t be bothered to care about something once he’s done with it, could be found on the fourth landing of a staircase that led to the room being held in the arms of his lady. They looked nice together.

In Leeds, the Stones played a university student union. Before the show, they sat waiting in a cafeteria, squeezed into leatherette booths at fake Formica tables like Archie, Juggie and the gang down at Pop’s for a soda. During the show, one of their ladies threw up politely, twice, and left.

Everyone in London washed their hair and stood in line on Sunday for the Rolling Stones at the Roundhouse, a metaphysical gig of the first order, a long time coming. The right band in the right place and a chance to see a city turned out.

Scalpers huddled and quoted: “Seven pounds for a ticket – wait a minute, you’re a student, ain’t ya? Six.”

A girl faints just outside the stage door and is carried in. Forty-two people crowd the dressing room. The showers run to keep the cans of beer and Coke cold. Bowls of sliced lemons for the tequila, bottles of tequila, bananas, nuts, raisins and a room that’s a groupie’s who’s-who.

Dave Mason in a forest green velvet jacket, ex-Mad Dogs Jim Gordon and Snaky Jim Keltner. Eric is coming. Chris Jagger. Outside, Family, Edgar Broughton, the Faces. Upstairs, John Peel, Tom Donahue, the entire pop press, the straight press, the music business, a gaggle of PR men, a clutch of record execs, a congregation of super-dressed screamer freaks.

Joyce, the Voice, whose trip it is to be all trippy and sometimes grab the microphone on stage for unscheduled raps, has somehow slipped away in the dressing room like she was born to pop stardom.

“Excuse me,” she says talking directly to Bianca, “but didn’t I see you with Osibisa in their dressing room last week?”

What? What is this? Hold on – Joyce the Voice has just asked Bianca, of the inscrutable face and blinding smile, of the mysterious eyes and gin-rummy ways, she has just asked Mick Jagger’s lady, “Aren’t you a groupie for this band I know?”

“What is Osibisa?” Bianca asks politely.

“Oh wow,” Joycie straight-faces, not knowing when she’s been cut dead. “There is someone with your exact vibration around. I mean, like a twin sister. You know? Someone who is walking around with your face.”

Bianca rolls her eyes white upwards. They remove Joyce.

“Hoo’s Mick Jagger now,” an old man asks. “Iss not for me, an autograph for a little girl, a spastic she is, no legs neither.”

Out in the hall someone is trying to sign Gram Parsons to a contract. “Apres moi,” he says, as the door swings open, “le deluge” and a stream of people spittle out, having been asked to leave.

One hour late, the second show starts. A tough set in which the mics go dead during Street Fighting Man and ping-pong balls, yellow flowers, and white confetti pour on to the stage. The band is celebrating, out of sea-green champagne bottles. The tour is over and it may be a while before there’s another. Rock’n’roll is a young man’s game.

As for the audience, well, they’re so super-hip and spaced, they dance only because they’re supposed to. In London, the Stones are a social phenomenon.

You can’t dance to a social phenomenon. The Rolling Stones are a good band. Pick up on them sometime.

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From Edna Gundersen's facebook page :


To mark the upcoming reissue of Sticky Fingers, the Rolling Stones are doing their first Twitter Q&A at 10 a.m. PST on Monday and I'll be moderating. You can still submit questions on Twitter, @RollingStones, ‪#‎AskTheStones‬. Questions/answers will be posted in video form. I can hear you knocking!
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Another alternate take gets previewed today. This time it's "Dead Flowers"

http://vevo.ly/n1a5kU

More here if the link doesnt work

http://mashable.com/2015/05/26/rolling-stones-sticky-fingers-album-dead-flowers/...
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Love it! Ragged, with some nice guitar work.
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Mick and Keith are on the front cover of the new issue of UNCUT, just out this week in the UK

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there's an interview with Mick on the 'Sticky Fingers' album inside. The link below features a small excerpt

http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/mick-jagger-there-are-so-many-slow-songs-on-sticky-f...
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I understand the super deluxe version of SF is now available on Google Chrome
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Anyone have the YouTube link of the bonus songs or just the titles  please?
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I just posted a link for it. The other songs made available so far have had their links posted earlier in the thread - and all the info on the release is in this thread too (page 5).
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it's not the same dead flowers as previously bootlegged…
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Mick talks to the Wall Street Journal about "moonlight mile"

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Good piece. I wish he'd do more interviews about specific songs like this
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Thanks for posting the reading material Gazza.

I enjoyed reading the "dog on the plane" story. Lots of golden nuggets to read about. What a crazy life the Stones have lived. That's one of the reasons that I love them.
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Here are the five Roundhouse songs in stereo from the 3CD version of Sticky Fingers Deluxe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj04ed1uWUs
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Nice. Thanks. Just checking it out now.

That's a blaster of a version of 'Live with me' - a song that I've never been a big fan of, but this is fantastic. Listen to that fucking bass!

So frustrating its just five songs, isnt it?
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and as a follow up.....Leeds from the day before. Complete (the first two songs have never circulated previously and weren't broadcast) and in stereo for the first time ever.



This is rock 'n' roll, baby.....

(thanks, kleermaker, for both links)
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It's jaw dropping.

I wouldnt quite go as far to say that Roundhouse version of 'Rambler' beats the Brussels '73 version, but it's certainly got enough balls to invite it outside for a good old fashioned punch up.
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I see kleermaker has done a bit of research into the Roundhouse gig songs and made the following observation in his youtube post which would be of interest to collectors  :

London Roundhouse, 1971-3-14, first and second gig
1. 0:03 : Live With Me; 2. 4:40 : Stray Cat Blues; 3. 8:12 : Love In Vain; 4. 15:10 : Midnight Rambler; 5. 27:05 : Honky Tonk Women.

Two songs (Stray Cat Blues and Honky Tonk Women) are 'new' and from the second gig; three songs (Live With Me, Love In Vain and Midnight Rambler) are the same ones as are on the well known Roundhouse bootlegs from the first gig.
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Here are the five Roundhouse songs in stereo from the 3CD version of Sticky Fingers Deluxe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj04ed1uWUs


Great! THANK YOU! So its only on the deluxe set?
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It's on the 2-cd version along with the alternate takes.
The 3-cd version includes the full Leeds show as well

Full details on page 5 of this thread.

Personally I just ordered the 3-cd set on iTunes. About 20 quid so half the price of the physical release and minus all the superfluous stuff.
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Are the Stones sitting on a lot more never heard before material or not that much anymore?
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Alternate Bitch, I love MICKS style of vocals here when he was "loose", and the band was insane.

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The alternate version of "Brown Sugar" with Clapton is now available on i-tunes.

I think that's all five of the alternate takes officially available now, if I'm not mistaken
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The alternate version of "Brown Sugar" with Clapton is now available on i-tunes.

I think that's all five of the alternate takes officially available now, if I'm not mistaken



That's a;; of them… Been listening. Just ran through BS with EC…. sounds way different than my bootleg… overdubs, a completely different take, just better mastering, need to listen more…

i'm like you Gazza, $20 on iTunes to get all the bonus stuff… sure, I'll take Leeds in mp3 stereo… I'm sure the flacs in lossless with be free on some pirate sites, if I must have…
any word and a Japan only track?
Only Wild Horses would be my disappointment, as far as nothing really that interesting, but still a good alt. version. The other stuff is repeat listen over and over worthy.
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I'm 100% sure it's the same take as the boot, 99.9% sure the same vocals as well (Jagger and Richards). However there are some brief Jagger improv vocals towards the end that are definitely new (as in NOT on the famous boot, not as in re-recorded).

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Well, I got the 2cd reissue today, but I'll have to wait to see what the other formats; ie how Leeds sounds before I upgrade. Still waiting on the vinyl but, I think they may have only ordered the single LP for me. That box set is going to cost a small fortune here in Australia; typical! Anyway I'm quite pleased with the sound quality, and the Roundhouse stuff is good.

I wonder whether the Leeds stuff will be that much better than 'Get Yer Leed's Lungs Out? We shall see. So what do you think will be next? Brussels official? Some other Euro' '73 stuff, maybe Earl's Court.
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How has this not gotten any posts today?

Didn't this finally come already...I see it out on KAT...
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Got the iTunes Super Deluxe. Won't ever listen to the original album as I still think the 1994 Virgin remasters sound the best.

Different takes of CYHMK, Bitch and the EC included Brown Sugar, as most of us have heard already heard, are nice to have.

The live stuff is fantastic and makes this release essential. Roundhouse is great, and as stated earlier by Gazza, a mighty Rambler to go alongside Brussels. But indeed, where is the rest of the show?. Having Leeds in its entirety and in full stereo along with the Roundhouse tracks is Mick Taylor solo heaven coupled with killer Keith tone. Nicky Hopkins up in the mix is also a big bonus - both versions of the piano driven Live With Me smoke.

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Just de 2cd set for me this time. Didn't find the plus package adventerous enough. I'll see how long it lasts before I regret my choice and buy the super deluxe anyway.
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I saw it at Best Buy today for 40 bucks. I was looking for Marquis show- no luck.
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 9th, 2015 at 12:12pm:
I saw it at Best Buy today for 40 bucks. I was looking for Marquis show- no luck.

Everywhere I ask, nobody seems to have a clue about a date for Marquee. I actually went in to buy Marquee first as well.
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 9th, 2015 at 12:12pm:
I saw it at Best Buy today for 40 bucks. I was looking for Marquis show- no luck.

Everywhere I ask, nobody seems to have a clue about a date for Marquee. I actually went in to buy Marquee first as well.

According to Amazon (US), release date is June 23rd.

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I saw it at Best Buy today for 40 bucks. I was looking for Marquis show- no luck.


Marquis Grissom?
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Got the iTunes Super Deluxe. Won't ever listen to the original album as I still think the 1994 Virgin remasters sound the best.

Different takes of CYHMK, Bitch and the EC included Brown Sugar, as most of us have heard already heard, are nice to have.

The live stuff is fantastic and makes this release essential. Roundhouse is great, and as stated earlier by Gazza, a mighty Rambler to go alongside Brussels. But indeed, where is the rest of the show?. Having Leeds in its entirety and in full stereo along with the Roundhouse tracks is Mick Taylor solo heaven coupled with killer Keith tone. Nicky Hopkins up in the mix is also a big bonus - both versions of the piano driven Live With Me smoke.


There's an iffy fuller Roundhouse available on certain boots but the not of the quality on this obviously. I hate refering to boots by name because there are so many under different titles these days, but there's one that's often referred to as ' The Lost Marquee Tapes, (which in itself is somewhat misleading a title, as disc one appears to be Roundhouse, March 14, 1971, yet we know that the Marquee gig was a one off March 23(I think), '71. I've been going over and over the new stuff, and comparing it to this old boot for days. I'm sure they're the same.
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Reply #241 - Jun 9th, 2015 at 10:53pm
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Mr. Yeats wrote on Jun 9th, 2015 at 7:33pm:
gypsymofo60 wrote on Jun 9th, 2015 at 5:02pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 9th, 2015 at 12:12pm:
I saw it at Best Buy today for 40 bucks. I was looking for Marquis show- no luck.

Everywhere I ask, nobody seems to have a clue about a date for Marquee. I actually went in to buy Marquee first as well.

According to Amazon (US), release date is June 23rd.


Yeah! That's what I heard from one source, but I'm way too impatient for Amazon. It's also tricky down here at the arse'ole end of the earth, all different formats, disc to player technical, esoteric twaddle, so I give it a wide berth now. been buent too many times, especially dvds.
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My deluxe box came today

as cut out figure I got bill Wyman half naked,
it's not bad but was aiming for mick completely naked...
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Reply #245 - Jun 10th, 2015 at 4:35pm
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Egon wrote on Jun 10th, 2015 at 7:55am:
My deluxe box came today

as cut out figure I got bill Wyman half naked,
it's not bad but was aiming for mick completely naked...

Well anything but Bill naked! Sticky Fingers burger anyone?
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This set is an absolute dud.  You have to get the SUPER DELUXE to make it even worth it.  The live show is great, but we've heard that a million times over the years. 

The bonus tracks don't do a damn thing to enhance their legacy.  It actually makes them look like they REALLY need a producer.  And the Roundhouse tracks?  Eh...

DVD?  A nice commercial to have us buy even more shit at the end of the month.

And we haven't even talked about the actual album yet.  It sounds like a turd with this mastering from 2009!

I feel taken to the cleaners on this one.  Shame on you Mick and company.
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Reply #247 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 9:28am
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Egon wrote on Jun 10th, 2015 at 7:55am:
My deluxe box came today

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LOL check this out

"The mini band-member cut-out that randomly came with my copy is of Bill Wyman, and I didn't want a Bill Wyman mini cut-out. Even with his shirt off."


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I don't know if a marketing genius was thinking that there are fans that will buy as many Super deluxe boxes are required to have the five members cut-outs!
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From UK's Music Week:

"Number one in 1971, The Rolling Stones' ninth studio album Sticky Fingers re-enters the chart this week at number seven (9,215 sales). Its return follows the release of deluxe (2 CD) and super deluxe (3 CD) editions containing rare and previously unreleased material to coincide with the group's current North American tour. Sticky Fingers last surfaced in the Top 75 - at number 74 - immediately after being released in a newly remastered edition in 1994. The band's most successfully reactivated studio album, Exile On Main Street, topped the chart when expanded in 2010. Their last Top 10 appearance before this week came in November 2012, when their compilation album, GRRR! reached number 3."

1 Muse 72,863
2 Florence + The Machine 24,734
3 Collabro 11,532
4 Ed Sheeran 9,884
5 Sam Smith 9,344
6 Leftfield 9,250
7 Rolling Stones 9,215
8 Taylor Swift 9,005
9 Mumford & Sons 8,518
10 Of Monsters & Men 8,437

11 Simply Red 8,337


Sticky Fingers re-entered at #7 extending their UK Top 10 album chart span beyond 51 years and 2 months since their self-titled also debuted at #7 on April 23, 1964 (it went to #1 the following week).

The Stones' stretch between their first week in the UK Top 10 to their most recent is now the longest among groups, Elvis is #1 among all acts with 57 years and 2 weeks.

Sticky Fingers on the UK chart:
UK Date: 08/05/1971 - Run: *1*-1-1-1-2-2-1-2-5-4-4-3-2-5-5-17-13-13-13-16-33-50-49-35-49 (25/15/5 wks)
Re #01: 02/07/1994 74 (1 wk, 26 wsf)
Re #02: 20/06/2015 7 (1 wk)
Total # of re-entries: 2
Total # of weeks: 27-25c (Top 10: 16, Top 20: 21 Top 40: 23, #1: 5)
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Have you all gotten tired of this set already?  Not much being said about it.
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I'm too busy listening to it.  A real curate's egg.

Original album -  Obviously they had to include it, but the UMG remaster is still not as great as the mid-90's Virgin one.

Bonus songs - Underwhelming. A couple of essential inclusions naturally, but alternate takes with guide vocals are what bootlegs are for, not official releases. They are interesting though.  There should have been a full CD of this material if they'd bothered to dig deeper. Some people seem to be under the impression that the version of 'Dead Flowers' is a live version or a tour rehearsal instead of an actual studio outtake. Any opinions?

Live material - Just mind-blowing. It's simply up there with Brussels 73 as the best live music the Stones have ever released. That good. Even better than Ya Yas, perhaps. BUT - just giving us five songs from two  Roundhouse shows (which is an even better set of performances than Leeds) is an awful tease. Again, should have been a full CD even if it meant compiling the best of the two Roundhouse gigs to give the impression of a full show (which is what they did with Brussels '73). As it is, we have about 21 performances from the two gigs still gathering dust in the vaults.  Some of the performances on these recordings may well be the definitive live versions of these great songs (Live with Me, Brown Sugar, Street Fighting Man, etc.  'Midnight Rambler' from the Roundhouse is almost as good as the '73 version which is, to me, the single greatest Stones live performance ever). These performances are  utterly ferocious and the absolute definition of what live rock n roll should sound like.

Video content - waste of fucking time. 8 minutes of teaser footage for an upcoming DVD release and a book doesnt justify the inflated price.
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Egon wrote on Jun 10th, 2015 at 7:55am:
My deluxe box came today

as cut out figure I got bill Wyman half naked,
it's not bad but was aiming for mick completely naked...


LOL check this out

"The mini band-member cut-out that randomly came with my copy is of Bill Wyman, and I didn't want a Bill Wyman mini cut-out. Even with his shirt off."


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Full article here https://www.straight.com/blogra/469861/stones-arent-playing-vancouver-super-delu...

OH GAWD! If I got that I'd fucking ralf! How big is that? That's hideous.

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Anyway, pick up my vinyl copy today. I've enjoyed the vinyl remasters, there sort of nostalgic in a kitsch sort of a way. Sticky Fingers has been the one I've been most looking forward to since I scored Let It Bleed way back in 04. Fingers, pardon the pun; (I honestly didn't mean that) crossed. What's next?
My guess? Black And Blue, but it isn't a big memory disc is it? Shame.
I'd would like to see that as a double disc reissue, vids included please Stonesgeezers.
Something like YOUKNOWWHOBOY'S 'Rags To Excess.
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I'd like to think that the most obvious choice for another release is from 1968-69. Theres a lot of overlap between Beggars and Let It Bleed.

I cant really envisage an expanded release for anything which isnt deemed to be a 'classic' album. (Even if some people could throw 'Tattoo You' into the mix, its an utter anomaly in the Stones canon as it was never a band 'project' in the true sense of the word - although as authenticity and historical accuracy arent really deemed to be that important in the context of these releases, its quite feasible that they could cobble together a collection of leftovers from about 1973-81 and deem it a 'Tattoo You Deluxe' )

I personally think a multi-volume collection of career spanning outtakes and alternate versions (properly and accurately researched and documented) released over a period of years makes far more sense. Once you get past the albums that most fans would see as their 'definitive' releases (some of which didnt really have much in the way of bonafide leftovers) it makes no sense to just stop there and leave the rest decaying in the vaults.
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Gazza wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
I'd like to think that the most obvious choice for another release is from 1968-69. Theres a lot of overlap between Beggars and Let It Bleed.

I cant really envisage an expanded release for anything which isnt deemed to be a 'classic' album. (Even if some people could throw 'Tattoo You' into the mix, its an utter anomaly in the Stones canon as it was never a band 'project' in the true sense of the word - although as authenticity and historical accuracy arent really deemed to be that important in the context of these releases, its quite feasible that they could cobble together a collection of leftovers from about 1973-81 and deem it a 'Tattoo You Deluxe' )

I personally think a multi-volume collection of career spanning outtakes and alternate versions (properly and accurately researched and documented) released over a period of years makes far more sense. Once you get past the albums that most fans would see as their 'definitive' releases (some of which didnt really have much in the way of bonafide leftovers) it makes no sense to just stop there and leave the rest decaying in the vaults. 


It's too good of an idea for the people in the Stones camp to execute.  It's a lot of work and would be handled poorly. 

I think they need to stick to ridiculously simple, not-so-creative ideas - the live shit.  Those have been done pretty well.  I'm looking forward to the Marquee DVD even more than the SF box.  I hope it delivers.
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The album is back on Billboard's Top 5!

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6598303/muse-first-no-1-alb...

"Another British rock band, The Rolling Stones, re-enters at No. 5 with their classic former No. 1 Sticky Fingers (36,000 units; 34,000 in pure album sales). The album, which spent four weeks atop the list shortly after its release in 1971, has been absent from the tally since 1981. This is its highest rank since Aug. 14, 1971, when it was No. 5. The album was reissued on June 9 in a variety of deluxe, remastered and expanded editions, thus sparking its return to the chart. For charting and sales tracking purposes, nearly all versions of the album are merged together on Billboard’s charts and in Nielsen Music’s database. (However, one of Sticky Fingers’ new editions -- dubbed the super deluxe version -- tracks separately due to its additional extra content. It debuts at No. 65 with 9,000 units, nearly all from album sales.)

The Sticky Fingers redux is the third expansive reissue the Stones have released in recent years, following 2010’s reboot of its 1972 No. 1 Exile On Main St. and the 2011 reissue of the 1978 No. 1 Some Girls. The former returned to the chart at No. 2, while the latter came back in at No. 46."


Amazing results, the Stones chart span of top 10 albums is now the longest among groups with 50 years and 6 months; and I think they are the only artist on US chart history with Top 5 albums on 6 different and consecutive decades.

The album made the Top 10 in UK too at #7, their Top 10 chart span there stands at 51 years and 2 months since the first album.
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Gazza wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
I'd like to think that the most obvious choice for another release is from 1968-69. Theres a lot of overlap between Beggars and Let It Bleed.

I cant really envisage an expanded release for anything which isnt deemed to be a 'classic' album. (Even if some people could throw 'Tattoo You' into the mix, its an utter anomaly in the Stones canon as it was never a band 'project' in the true sense of the word - although as authenticity and historical accuracy arent really deemed to be that important in the context of these releases, its quite feasible that they could cobble together a collection of leftovers from about 1973-81 and deem it a 'Tattoo You Deluxe' )

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Gaz, I couldn't agree more. I just have a nostalgic feel for Black And Blue, but have you ever heard what Kimsey had to sort through to get Tattoo You whipped into an album?
Don't get me wrong; I think Tattoo You is a terrific  LP but, what I've heard from the cutting room floor is just a mess, awful. There is so much great stuff from the Black And Blue sessions, even if they do have naff titles like Cellophane Trousers. Talk about the pants, (pardon the pun.)
By the way; the long piece you did on the Glasgow flight in 1971, the BOOGIE flight. Did you get that from David Dalton's The Rolling Stones an unauthorised biography from the Goodbye Great Britain Chapter?
That was the very first full length book I ever read on the band. I still think it is the definitive account on the groups first decade, brilliant! I nicked it from school as a kid. It is such a skilfully constructed, chronological trip through not just the band, but the whole of the 1960s.
But again I agree there is so much from '68/'69 that could be released now. That would be fantastic

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Its from Bob Greenfield's new book on the 1971 tour, mate. As serialised in The Guardian. I posted the link to it :

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/06/goodbye-great-britain-the-rolling-s...


I vaguely remember that Dalton book. The first Stones book I ever read came out around that era as well (although I didnt read it until about 1977-78 or so). It was by George Tremlett - went up as far as about 1973, as did Tony Scaduto's Jagger bio which I read just afterwards.

Tremlett's book here (cover is somewhat different now!) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolling-Stones-Story-George-Tremlett/dp/0860071286

Kimsey's piece on 'Tattoo You' is fantastic. Presume this is the one you mean. A great read :
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/classictracks.htm


And getting back to the subject of this thread, an interesting piece on the Sticky Fingers sessions from him on the same web page :

While assisting on the sessions for the Stones' classic Sticky Fingers album at Olympic in 1971, Chris Kimsey didn't work on the centrepiece song, 'Wild Horses'; but he did nearly destroy it. Engineered on eight-track by Glyn Johns, the recording required more tracks and so Kimsey was assigned the straightforward task of making an eight-to-eight copy. With one 3M machine in Studio One and another at the opposite end of the building in what was then known as the reduction (mixdown) room, the trainee decided to make the copy immediately after the session ended, at about three in the morning, when no one else was around.
Accordingly, he put the master reel on one machine, loaded the virgin tape onto the other, checked all the connections, pressed Play on the master, ran the two-minute journey to the reduction room to make sure the correct signals were coming in, pressed Record, ran another two minutes back to the main control room, rewound the master, again pressed Play, and then returned to the other room to monitor the copy. So far, so good. However, after about a minute, the incoming sound slowed right down and ground to a halt. Trouble. Running as fast as he could to the Studio One control room, Kimsey duly discovered that the takeup spool was bent and stuck, causing the tape to wrap itself around the capstan motor until it stopped.
"The tape had wrapped itself neatly around the motor, but with creases every inch and a half," he now recalls. "I was shitting myself. I started lifting it out, incredibly slowly and delicately, and hours went by before, at around six in the morning, [studio manager] Keith Grant came in for an early session. Well, he took one look at me in a big heap on the floor, and after asking what happened he got a big, heavyweight iron — obviously not hot — and helped me press out the creases. It took me hours, and then I had to sit there and play the tape for hours and hours and hours to get the creases completely out. To this day, none of the guys has ever been told about this."
Why bother? After all, Kimsey hadn't escaped quite as easily a few years earlier, when starting his career as an Olympic tape-op-cum-teaboy. Showing off the copy room equipment to a girlfiend, he spotted an opportunity to impress her even more when Steve Marriott of the Small Faces popped his head around the door and asked, "'Ere, mate, can you make a copy of my album? We've just finished mixing it!"
At this point, Kimsey didn't even know what mixing was, but he was happy to comply. Putting the master and copy reels onto a couple of Studers, he set both machines in motion and then wondered why no sound was forthcoming. "'Ere, where's the f***in' music?" Marriott enquired. "It should be startin' by now!"
When Kimsey took a look, he noticed that he'd put both machines in record. A good 30 seconds had been wiped off the first track on the album. Yet, unaware of the work that had gone into Andy Johns's mix, he coolly remarked, "Oh, never mind. You'll just have to do it again." Marriott was less than impressed. "He had to go upstairs and have the song remixed," Kimsey recalls. "However, about five years later, when I was engineering a Humble Pie session, Steve told someone the story and then turned to me and asked, 'Is that guy still here?' 'No, no,' I said, 'they got rid of him ages ago!'"
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I personally think a multi-volume collection of career spanning outtakes and alternate versions (properly and accurately researched and documented) released over a period of years makes far more sense.



Are you suggesting something akin to the Beatles Anthology parts 1-3 from the early-mid 90's?

That would be great!!! I think part 3 had the Free as a Bird single...the post-houmus Lennon track...alsomost like a Plundered My Soul...or an actual Brian single
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From Billboard:

— The Rolling Stones, Sticky Fingers (Super Deluxe) - No. 65 — The Rolling Stones’ classic Sticky Fingers album was reissued on multiple formats on June 9, including a “super deluxe” version, which arrives at No. 65 with 9,000 units (nearly all from traditional album sales). The set tracks separately from the main Sticky Fingers album (which re-enters at No. 5 with 36,000 units) due to its abundance of bonus content. The Sticky Fingers redux is the third such expansive reissue that the Stones have undertaken in recent years, following reboots of Exile On Main St. (in 2010) and Some Girls (in 2011). Billboard estimates that the three remastered and reissued albums have sold a combined 606,000 copies in the U.S. since their reintroduction to the marketplace. That sum equates to 21 percent of The Rolling Stones’ overall album sales since the start of 2010.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6605235/rolling-stones-sti...


So, about 3 million copies sold during the last 5 years in the U.S, an average of 500,000 copies sold by year, only albums.


They have 3 albums on the U.S Top 200 this week:

#5 Sticky Fingers (63 wks on chart)
#65 Sticky Fingers (Super Deluxe) (1 wk on chart)
#186 Hot Rocks (255 wks on chart)

https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
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Re: Sticky Fingers reissue June 8, 2015 (new release date)
Reply #263 - Jun 19th, 2015 at 7:42pm
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Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 19th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Gazza wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
I personally think a multi-volume collection of career spanning outtakes and alternate versions (properly and accurately researched and documented) released over a period of years makes far more sense.



Are you suggesting something akin to the Beatles Anthology parts 1-3 from the early-mid 90's?

That would be great!!! I think part 3 had the Free as a Bird single...the post-houmus Lennon track...alsomost like a Plundered My Soul...or an actual Brian single


Absolutely. I've thought this was the best way from day one.

I think its pretty obvious by now after the three deluxe versions they've put out that like The Beatles (but unlike, say, Dylan, Young, Springsteen etc) that the amount of unreleased songs in the Stones vaults which are complete and of releasable quality is pretty minimal. Most that fall into that category are cover versions. Its not a suggestion that they werent prolific - more an observation on the way they worked in the studio in that they would have finished lyrics and vocal tracks pretty late in the recording process and tended not to have a lot of finished songs left over once they had enough material that they needed (and in many cases - the leftover songs with most potential tended to get used on a future release).

So, a series of multi disc releases showcasing a lot of alternate versions as well as what unissued songs are of decent standard is the way to go, IMO. Yes, there are some albums where they did seem to have a lot of leftover songs - but they tended to be on albums that arent really feasible for standalone deluxe treatment. Who, for example, is going to be interested in multi disc releases of Dirty Work and Emotional Rescue? Best to have the good stuff from that era on an Anthology series.

You could conceivably do a release for the period up to Satanic Majesties (1961-67 - including the Little Boy Blue Demos), another for, say, 1968-74, then a couple of volumes covering the era with Ronnie, eg 1975 -85 and then 1989 to date.  A couple of discs (at least) on each one.  One release a year.  With minimal (and ideally, if practical, none at all) latter-day overdubs added.
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Re: Sticky Fingers reissue June 8, 2015 (new release date)
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patioaintdry wrote on Jun 9th, 2015 at 9:22am:
Got the iTunes Super Deluxe. Won't ever listen to the original album as I still think the 1994 Virgin remasters sound the best.

Different takes of CYHMK, Bitch and the EC included Brown Sugar, as most of us have heard already heard, are nice to have.

The live stuff is fantastic and makes this release essential. Roundhouse is great, and as stated earlier by Gazza, a mighty Rambler to go alongside Brussels. But indeed, where is the rest of the show?. Having Leeds in its entirety and in full stereo along with the Roundhouse tracks is Mick Taylor solo heaven coupled with killer Keith tone. Nicky Hopkins up in the mix is also a big bonus - both versions of the piano driven Live With Me smoke.


You know what; your comment on the quality of the 93/94 Virgin remaster is bang on my friend. I tend to think a lot of people just get brainwashed into thinking; ah! new release, better quality. It's still the 2009 remaster anyway as far as disc 1 is concerned.
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Gazza wrote on Jun 19th, 2015 at 4:27pm:
Its from Bob Greenfield's new book on the 1971 tour, mate. As serialised in The Guardian. I posted the link to it :

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/06/goodbye-great-britain-the-rolling-s...


I vaguely remember that Dalton book. The first Stones book I ever read came out around that era as well (although I didnt read it until about 1977-78 or so). It was by George Tremlett - went up as far as about 1973, as did Tony Scaduto's Jagger bio which I read just afterwards.

Tremlett's book here (cover is somewhat different now!) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolling-Stones-Story-George-Tremlett/dp/0860071286

Kimsey's piece on 'Tattoo You' is fantastic. Presume this is the one you mean. A great read :
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/classictracks.htm


And getting back to the subject of this thread, an interesting piece on the Sticky Fingers sessions from him on the same web page :

While assisting on the sessions for the Stones' classic Sticky Fingers album at Olympic in 1971, Chris Kimsey didn't work on the centrepiece song, 'Wild Horses'; but he did nearly destroy it. Engineered on eight-track by Glyn Johns, the recording required more tracks and so Kimsey was assigned the straightforward task of making an eight-to-eight copy. With one 3M machine in Studio One and another at the opposite end of the building in what was then known as the reduction (mixdown) room, the trainee decided to make the copy immediately after the session ended, at about three in the morning, when no one else was around.
Accordingly, he put the master reel on one machine, loaded the virgin tape onto the other, checked all the connections, pressed Play on the master, ran the two-minute journey to the reduction room to make sure the correct signals were coming in, pressed Record, ran another two minutes back to the main control room, rewound the master, again pressed Play, and then returned to the other room to monitor the copy. So far, so good. However, after about a minute, the incoming sound slowed right down and ground to a halt. Trouble. Running as fast as he could to the Studio One control room, Kimsey duly discovered that the takeup spool was bent and stuck, causing the tape to wrap itself around the capstan motor until it stopped.
"The tape had wrapped itself neatly around the motor, but with creases every inch and a half," he now recalls. "I was shitting myself. I started lifting it out, incredibly slowly and delicately, and hours went by before, at around six in the morning, [studio manager] Keith Grant came in for an early session. Well, he took one look at me in a big heap on the floor, and after asking what happened he got a big, heavyweight iron — obviously not hot — and helped me press out the creases. It took me hours, and then I had to sit there and play the tape for hours and hours and hours to get the creases completely out. To this day, none of the guys has ever been told about this."
Why bother? After all, Kimsey hadn't escaped quite as easily a few years earlier, when starting his career as an Olympic tape-op-cum-teaboy. Showing off the copy room equipment to a girlfiend, he spotted an opportunity to impress her even more when Steve Marriott of the Small Faces popped his head around the door and asked, "'Ere, mate, can you make a copy of my album? We've just finished mixing it!"
At this point, Kimsey didn't even know what mixing was, but he was happy to comply. Putting the master and copy reels onto a couple of Studers, he set both machines in motion and then wondered why no sound was forthcoming. "'Ere, where's the f***in' music?" Marriott enquired. "It should be startin' by now!"
When Kimsey took a look, he noticed that he'd put both machines in record. A good 30 seconds had been wiped off the first track on the album. Yet, unaware of the work that had gone into Andy Johns's mix, he coolly remarked, "Oh, never mind. You'll just have to do it again." Marriott was less than impressed. "He had to go upstairs and have the song remixed," Kimsey recalls. "However, about five years later, when I was engineering a Humble Pie session, Steve told someone the story and then turned to me and asked, 'Is that guy still here?' 'No, no,' I said, 'they got rid of him ages ago!'"
The same Greenfield who first brought keith out of his shell in that fabulous 'Rolling Stone' interview in 1971? Oh! I gotta get me some of that. Thanx for the answer. Sorry I missed it for a few days. You're a bloody walking Stones encyclopedia mate. But hey, who's complaining? Cheers!
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Been taking in the bonus disc the last few days. Some thoughts:

Brwon Sugar is the same version we all know, but there is definitely some extra vocal stuff from Mick on the outtro. Could the famous boot version have a slight edit? Because the instrumental track is obviously the same.

Wild Horses is likely the same album track, though there is that missed snare beat by Charlie, I forget where...likely a different vocal from Mick.

CYHMK is cool, especially Charlie riding his floor tom; but not close to the album track.

Bitch is certainly an altogether different take; the horns are poorly mixed here, and they lack Jim Price's trombone overdub. Very exciting take though, Jagger's really into the groove and Keith plays and plays and plays...

Dead Flowers is likely taken from Keef's birthday party, i.e. the same source as the Brown Sugar version here. Great version, but Taylor plays too much over it, as I think he always did on this song live.

The Roundhouse stuff is incredible. Can't fathom why they didn't release the whole show. It's far better than 'Leeds Lungs' or the Marquee, says me. Better recording/mix as well.

Well worth my $15. Coulda/shoulda been a lot better/more interesting, but ya can't always get - never mind...
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Gazza wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
I'd like to think that the most obvious choice for another release is from 1968-69. Theres a lot of overlap between Beggars and Let It Bleed.

I cant really envisage an expanded release for anything which isnt deemed to be a 'classic' album. (Even if some people could throw 'Tattoo You' into the mix, its an utter anomaly in the Stones canon as it was never a band 'project' in the true sense of the word - although as authenticity and historical accuracy arent really deemed to be that important in the context of these releases, its quite feasible that they could cobble together a collection of leftovers from about 1973-81 and deem it a 'Tattoo You Deluxe' )

I personally think a multi-volume collection of career spanning outtakes and alternate versions (properly and accurately researched and documented) released over a period of years makes far more sense. Once you get past the albums that most fans would see as their 'definitive' releases (some of which didnt really have much in the way of bonafide leftovers) it makes no sense to just stop there and leave the rest decaying in the vaults. 
Yeah! I couldn't agree more Gaz. There is so much from that period, Highway Child, Leather Jacket, etc. Do you know when that fantastic riff Potted Shrimp was from.
I thought it was from the Exile sessions, but I'm not sure. That would make such a killer song with lyrics. Still Beggars, and Let It Bleed sessions have an absolute treasure trove of unreleased stuff. But you are right about Black And Blue. Despite having a lot of great stuff, it is not classified as a bonafide classic, that's a shame, because I love that album despite the lack of interest in it due to it being released just before the British punk explosion.
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