Debating and trying to discuss "facts" and "truth" with people supporting an authoritarian fascist is pointless.
They're bullies and mean, always have been. They only exhaust you. You'll come from a place of critical thinking and see they have only rhetoric and false flags. Nothing will change except you'll feel despair instead of the hope needed to resist this takeover of America.

It's been tried before.

Fascism creates diversion but it also displays its intent, you just need look.

Voter fraud is not a problem, intent is to further suppress or suspend elections.

Muslim ban to fight terrorism, intent look at history we've already been destroying ten of thousands of muslim in the mid east. this will continue and muslims in the usa will be persecuted more.

building a wall and illegal immigration, intent to further demonize and attack latinos and exploit them for work. Americans aren't going to suddenly start doing these jobs, that are being done well and by people paying taxes. There will be a push to further exploit immigrants for cheaper labor i.e.: slave labor. This could take on many forms. look to history.

Steve Bannon is a racist piece of shit, very dangerous. Capable of great evil and another person using Trumps ignorance to further his goals, which in simple terms... He's just mean. but not like mean saying bad words,  more like I'll destroy entire groups I dislike hatred.

There's nothing to argue or debate.... trying to prove that media isn't lying or that this is a fact and that isn't is exactly what was going on in Germany in the 1930's.
They said the jew lost the war and profited from defeat. Many people spent a great deal of energy saying this isn't true, and all said Nazi's weren't that dangerous, just had different opinions. Within less than 10 years 42 million people were dead!

I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler or us to Nazi Germany. It's all forms of fascism and authoritarian rulers from the past 100 years to look at. there's no single blueprint, it's as unique as the people doing the fucking over...
Just hope people are smart enough to see it, and resist it....

PDog.....the only bully I see around here is YOU.

You can agree to disagree....people like you are dangerous too.

No, I don't think people voicing their opinion is dangerous Gimmekeef. I'm not all that enamored with Trump either, but going around calling people fascists and the like is pointless. It IS dangerous to call people racists just because they might want some kind of security or have people of any nationality come here legally and go through the proper channels. I am not talking about Syrian refugees here, that is a problem that should be handled with care.  I really don't care what anyone thinks. I'd say the same thing to your face as I would behind the anonymity of a messageboard.

BTW Leonid.....right back at ya, big boy.

BULLIES are TERRIBLE. YUCH

Joey?

No, I don't think people voicing their opinion is dangerous Gimmekeef. I'm not all that enamored with Trump either, but going around calling people fascists and the like is pointless. It IS dangerous to call people racists just because they might want some kind of security or have people of any nationality come here legally and go through the proper channels. I am not talking about Syrian refugees here, that is a problem that should be handled with care.  I really don't care what anyone thinks. I'd say the same thing to your face as I would behind the anonymity of a messageboard.

BTW Leonid.....right back at ya, big boy.

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:57pm:

You wanted a political thread. You got it...................be careful what you wish for.