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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #125 - Dec 11^th, 2011 at 9:01pm

Gazza wrote on Dec 11^th, 2011 at 8:26pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Dec 11^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

Mcartney and Jagger, *(and even Springsteen) are night and day, literally, in the type of show they put on at a physical level. You can't compare the two. McCartney does not ...and can not... move, jump, run, wriggle, all over the friggin stage constantly. He stands or sits there and barley moves a step (now granted, a show at that age, is still impressive... he sings and plays his instruments all during which is taxing in itself and McCartney's three hour show consisting of 35-36 songs.. is "truly impressive".. I am surprised he can still pull that off and it's a marvel he does it...geesh... dudes basically 70 and he is putting on a strong three hour show..).

Jagger doesn't stop moving, prancing and dashing all around. (He won't want to so much lessen his athleticism as much as he will have to shorten the show a bit).

As far as Mick running about on extended catwalks etc. etc... well yeah... we would all certainly understand if he couldn't do that anymore... and there really is no absolute need. It could still be a really good show without those aspects...

But guess what... the guy is "Mick Jagger". It is a trademark and staple in his on-stage antics. He is going to do it as much as he possibly can at this age. He isn't going to refrain from it so long as he thinks he can get by with out it halting the show or wearing him out too much.

As far as Springsteen and McCartney go.... neither of them could handle the type of show Jagger puts on ... even for a night yesterday, or today. So comparing the two acts and speaking of how one act should be able to hang in like the other is unfair because one act is running full throttle and requires much more physical exertion. The Stones show may be just a third shorter than either of those two....but come on man... Jagger's act requires 2-3 times the amount of energy...

Thus, directly comparing show-time and how often they play while saying they should be basically even is unfair.

Ian

Than Springsteen? Utter rubbish.

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Springsteen still is, and always has been a great performer. He puts his whole soul in the show. As well... his show is physically demanding... but only to a certain degree. Still, Jagger's stage show as far as a workout, or on a physical level is still more taxing than Bruce's... and he is that much older of a gent than Bruce.

And Jagger HAS toned his stage performance down from 1989 onwards. Prior to that he was invariably breathless as he spent more time running around than singing. As a result, he's technically be able to SING better since then, even if some people prefer the 'rawer' style that preceded it. Being more restrained and able to pace himself as he's got older has enabled him to last into his 60's as a top performer.

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Yeah... Jagger has toned it down a bit over the past 15 years or more. However, the guy still has been certainly the most energetic front man going from even from that point onwards

There's absolutely no reason why he shouldnt be able to do that even more when he's approaching 70. There's more to being a great entertainer (which he is) than simply running around wiggling his arse.

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I agree. As well...Jagger "will" put on quite a physical show this time out I'm sure. I just can't see him doing that consistently at say 72-73.. this is why I see it as the last full scale tour. Jagger feels the need to show much athleticism in his stage show... and fans eat it up.

You're also overlooking the fact that actually performing and playing an instrument for three hours IS pretty taxing, even if you're not running all over the place.

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Actually, I didn't mean for it to sound over-looked. Yes, "definitely"... just playing an instrument, and singing, even if you don't move around is still taxing physically for that long of a time period... not to mention the emotion and concentration involved besides simply the physical aspect of all of it. This is why for Bruce and Paul, I am still very impressed to say the least. Three long hours and 36 songs at any age is a feet for the most part. ..much less a 69 year old dude. I can't say how much I am surprised McCartney can still do this (and Bruce ...for the most part).

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #128 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 6:04am

Some Guy wrote on Dec 11^th, 2011 at 10:30pm:

this thread has taken a nose dive.

Yes, we're getting off the point somewhat.

Suffice to say, on the Stones front, the last month has been the most positive for a long time, in terms of both celebrating the past AND having grounds for being optimistic for the future.

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #131 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 9^th, 2011 at 7:51pm:

I would rather they tour to tour instead of doing a final tour. I'm not buying a ticket to say goodbye.

A final tour is too emotionally upsetting for someone on the lunatic fringe like myself. I don't want the words FINAL and ROLLING STONES in the same sentence......

Does anyone else here feel like I do?

I saw the last ever Ramones show, and knew that was it. The whole thing was very saddening, not like a usual concert.

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #133 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 2:09pm

Pdog wrote on Dec 9^th, 2011 at 8:13pm:

[quote author=Steel Wheels link=1320856402/100#100 date=1323481906]I would rather they tour to tour instead of doing a final tour. I'm not buying a ticket to say goodbye.

A final tour is too emotionally upsetting for someone on the lunatic fringe like myself. I don't want the words FINAL and ROLLING STONES in the same sentence......

Does anyone else here feel like I do?

I completely understand. I'm convinced they will NOT announce it as a farewell tour, but IF they did, Iwould not go see them. I've been there for the whole 50 years and I would refuse to go to their funeral.

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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,759 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: the stones to play again in 2011 Reply #135 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 3:42pm Ok.....I am assuming that there will be a tour.....so how do they announce it???...Done it by truck cargo deck, boat, train, car and blimp to name a few..whats left?.....Five jumbo elephants????(like there are small elephants..lol) (i,m counting Bill back in!)
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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #136 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 3:42pm

Nellcote wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 1:13pm:

Some Guy wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 7:43am:

We got Macca'd and Springsteen'd all at once. A bit much.

It's better than getting Van Halen'd. Are you fucking serious?

I would prefer to be Halen'd than Macca'd, actually Lansburied

At least we can agree on Springsteen Nellie. Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #138 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:30pm

gimmekeef wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 3:42pm:

Ok.....I am assuming that there will be a tour.....so how do they announce it???...Done it by truck cargo deck, boat, train, car and blimp to name a few..whats left?.....Five jumbo elephants????(like there are small elephants..lol) (i,m counting Bill back in!)

From space. They've tried everything else.

Although, on the downside, if Bill wont fly, I cant envision him being keen to be blasted into the stratosphere in a rocket, so thats him out of contention.

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #139 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 6:25pm

Gazza wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:30pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 3:42pm:

Ok.....I am assuming that there will be a tour.....so how do they announce it???...Done it by truck cargo deck, boat, train, car and blimp to name a few..whats left?.....Five jumbo elephants????(like there are small elephants..lol) (i,m counting Bill back in!)

From space. They've tried everything else.

Although, on the downside, if Bill wont fly, I cant envision him being keen to be blasted into the stratosphere in a rocket, so thats him out of contention.

They haven't done aquatics yet, have they?

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #141 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 9:44pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Like BB King, they will continue to play. I have 110% faith that is what they will do. Time marches on, and so do the Rolling Stones.

And thats exactly whats gonna happen. But how will they announce the tour? Here's an idea ~ It's going be a big Press Conference in London, going back to the original place where MICK & KEEF met at the train station, arriving on a train! That new statue should be in place by then! That would be a grand entrance, wouldnt it?

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #142 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 7:09am

Gazza wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:30pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 3:42pm:

Ok.....I am assuming that there will be a tour.....so how do they announce it???...Done it by truck cargo deck, boat, train, car and blimp to name a few..whats left?.....Five jumbo elephants????(like there are small elephants..lol) (i,m counting Bill back in!)

From space. They've tried everything else.

Although, on the downside, if Bill wont fly, I cant envision him being keen to be blasted into the stratosphere in a rocket, so thats him out of contention.

Well space is really the last frontier. The new Space Shuttle launches the Stones for a lap round the world while they Skype back with the tour details?. then safely land back here in Atlanta in my back yard for a jam session???

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #143 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 7:18am

Bitch wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Like BB King, they will continue to play. I have 110% faith that is what they will do. Time marches on, and so do the Rolling Stones.

And thats exactly whats gonna happen. But how will they announce the tour? Here's an idea ~ It's going be a big Press Conference in London, going back to the original place where MICK & KEEF met at the train station, arriving on a train! That new statue should be in place by then! That would be a grand entrance, wouldnt it?

There's a statue? Wasnt it going to be a plaque or did I miss something?

Theyve done the train station announcement before ('89) but considering the anniversary significance, a train station would be very nice indeed. Dartford isn't in London, though.

Or even arriving on a barge at Eel Pie Island
http://everhart.blogspot.com/2011/07/eel-pie-island-where-rolling-stones-who.htm...

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #144 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 7:32am

Bitch wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Like BB King, they will continue to play. I have 110% faith that is what they will do. Time marches on, and so do the Rolling Stones.

And thats exactly whats gonna happen. But how will they announce the tour? Here's an idea ~ It's going be a big Press Conference in London, going back to the original place where MICK & KEEF met at the train station, arriving on a train! That new statue should be in place by then! That would be a grand entrance, wouldnt it?

You may have a good idea here.

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Re: the stones to play again in 2011
Reply #146 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 9:17am

Bitch wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Like BB King, they will continue to play. I have 110% faith that is what they will do. Time marches on, and so do the Rolling Stones.

And thats exactly whats gonna happen. But how will they announce the tour? Here's an idea ~ It's going be a big Press Conference in London, going back to the original place where MICK & KEEF met at the train station, arriving on a train! That new statue should be in place by then! That would be a grand entrance, wouldnt it?

Here's an idea. How about they just show up on a stage somewhere and just start playing. That's their tour announcement. Are you fucking serious?

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