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Reply #350 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:35am
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Reply #351 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:36am
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gotdablouse wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:11am:
"I'd think this is Mick's way of letting everyone know that he's not standing in the way of the Stones performing" - did he elaborate on that or do you have a link? Mick doesn't seem very involved in the RS piece, or does he mean he's behind it, hum...


I posted his entire quote.

I think what he's suggesting is it's significant that it's Keith - who's usually the most enthusiastic about talking UP a tour - who has acknowledged that it's not going to happen for a while, as usually it's Mick who gets the 'blame' for being reluctant (which is magnified even further by the fact that he's been the band member who has been most coy and evasive in the last couple of years when being asked about touring).

Worth remembering too that Mick and Jann Wenner are good friends. I wouldn't be surprised if Mick had some 'input' or pre-approval on that 'exclusive'. By that I mean the public acknowledgement that the band arent ready to tour in 2012  and not the 'gossip' references, which are for the most part superfluous but which will probably be given more weight in re-hashed stories than they actually deserve.
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Reply #352 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:44am
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gimmekeef wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:08am:
Thanks Gazza..that is encouraging.....Maybe with all these things added up plus the Olympics they decided financially next year with a new cd out would be better?....or maybe the bids coming in for 2012 weren't that good?..


The latter is certainly possible.

Could even be the insurance premiums were too high. Who knows? Its far easier to say 'we're not ready' than it is to say 'its costing too much to stage' or 'we're concerned we wont sell as many tickets and make as much profit as we'd like to'.

I just think there's probably a multitude of reasons which they weighed up and figured that they were best leaving it a few months.

And I think a few months delay is all we're talking about. I'd expect a 2013 to start and finish in the same calendar year, so it wont be a case of them starting in summer/autumn 2013, but significantly earlier.

Which would work out nicely for giving them time to make a new record - especially as they'd all probably tentatively left the second half of 2012 free for Stones activity anyway.
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Reply #353 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:45am
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Makes sense, too bad Mick wasn't able to get Wenner to remove the "health gossip" part though, because everyone's focusing on that whereas we'd be all pumped up about the upcoming recordings and Bill "the little hands that coud" Wyman's return!
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Reply #354 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:33am
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Keith is fine. This bit of health news is pure speculation. Let's all look forward to them hitting a studio in NYC really soon and creating some more magic.
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Reply #355 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:47am
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Steel Wheels wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 10:33am:
Keith is fine. This bit of health news is pure speculation. Let's all look forward to them hitting a studio in NYC really soon and creating some more magic.


Well, we dont know if any of them is 'fine' or not - but the bit in bold is spot on. Speculation is indeed all it is.


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Reply #356 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:22am
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 11:42pm:
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AngieBlue wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:40pm:
The last time a bunch of fans were convinced Keith's health was bad it turned out Patti was the one very ill.  

Just sayin'.


And sayin' a lot.  Smiley

Yeah but every time we have seen Patti in public recently.She has looked fantastic. Don't know the exact date she was last in public. But it would have to be a quck demise if the health problems were hers.


I didn't mean Patti was ill again, just pointing out how wrong the 'insiders' and the fan mass was.
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Reply #357 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:50am
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So..we wait....which is what we have done for the last 30 years anyway......maybe they should call the next tour The Molasses Tour..based on how long it took to get going....
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Reply #358 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 12:01pm
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..and even if there wont be a Stones album, Keith can always finish that Winos record he  was apparently working on in 2011.
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Reply #359 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 12:07pm
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those wino demo tapes .. .can serve as a starting point for new Stones material ... Mick may even have a song or two ... the practice invovled in recording ... may help them all get in shape ... for one ... Final B Don't suck my cockang!
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Reply #360 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 1:09pm
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Reply #361 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:07pm
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all I know

is that it gives me more time to get some cash together to buy their damn expensive tickets.....
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Reply #362 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:23pm
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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:07pm:
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is that it gives me more time to get some cash together to buy their damn expensive tickets.....

Start your Christmas Club NOW!!
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Reply #363 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 4:06pm
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I'm not holding my breath. I'd love another tour, but only if they are up to it. My gut says the Stones are done, but I will happily stand corrected if the boys announce a fresh round of gigs.
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Reply #365 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 5:27pm
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Teiz wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 4:06pm:
I'm not holding my breath. I'd love another tour, but only if they are up to it. My gut says the Stones are done, but I will happily stand corrected if the boys announce a fresh round of gigs.



me too... and if they aren't being upfront, that makes it all the more lame...  insurance underwritters are only concerned with one thing, health... not if a person can play or record, they just neeed to know you can make it to a gig, the rest really doesn't matter to them. specualtion yes, but there's also only a few things it can be, knowing they had plans made... i'm glad a lot of you are optimistic... I wish I was, and hope I get there...
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Reply #366 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 5:41pm
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Paranoid Android wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:23pm:
PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:07pm:
all I know

is that it gives me more time to get some cash together to buy their damn expensive tickets.....

Start your Christmas Club NOW!!
10 bucks a week = about $350 come New Years!! Cheesy



Halfway to being able to afford a nosebleed at the Garden in 2013!
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Reply #367 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 6:15pm
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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:07pm:
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is that it gives me more time to get some cash together to buy their damn expensive tickets.....

More money for the Bruce fall leg Meggy. Wink
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Perhaps they are truly "both" just not ready yet (as Keith stated in saying "We're not ready yet").


Look at how out of breath Mick was at The White House.. he certainly wasn't hammering on all cylinders there for whatever reason. Vocally he was fine.. it was his wind that everyone commented on.

Keith at those ceremony's isn't really playing. He's simply plucking here and again between verses. Even though they didn't play those type of songs that called for it.. still the "riffs" seem to be gone for right now even if he wanted to try to do them.

It could all very well be a wake-up call to them. Could they have gotten ready in rehearsals by the time a tour comes around? Well now it seems possibly not?  Possibly they need to work into this slow and easy at this stage and age. They can't just jump right into a couple months of rehearsals and be fine like they could ten years ago. Those days are past. They may need to change things in their life a bit who knows and go into this slowly building up. 

One thing is for certain.. seeing Mick's wind and seeing Keith's last few outings.. they surely arent ready and I cant see a few months overcoming it all. Much of it yes but not 100%. They want to be 100% so this is probably another reason they chose to wait.

I keep stressing that they are 70.. it isn't like they are 60. Things are much more fragile and open to harm and you have to be careful at that age. As well, you can't jump right into rehearsals and in a couple months be all raring to go. They have crossed that line now.. it'll take a good while these days.

Personally, I am thinking they (at least Mick and Keith) are "both" not ready yet. I'm not sure this is all a 100% Keith situation.


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never thought I'd see a comment like, it's not like they are 60, they're 70, and say... to myself... that makes sense.
certain decades to make for big changes... 10 to 20 and 60 to 70... at a certain ppint in live, the body has extremes...
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Pdog wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:35pm:
never thought I'd see a comment like, it's not like they are 60, they're 70, and say... to myself... that makes sense.
certain decades to make for big changes... 10 to 20 and 60 to 70... at a certain ppint in live, the body has extremes...




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Exactly, and this is the point I am trying to drive home. It doesn't seem like a big deal and many see it as just ten years.. just a decade... but the 10 years between a 60 year old and a 70 year old is pretty significant.  There's a big difference between a 60 year old and a 70 year old.

20-30 (a change) 30-40 (not much)... 40-50 (not bad)... 60-70 (significant change).

Folks say .. well they did it just four or five years ago. Well they struggled to do it at that traveling pace four or five years ago. It wasn't easy on them then and they had a harder time with it. Now, with this long lay-off, it probably is a very good call they try and work into this slowly. Even when they are ready, the days of The Rolling Stones traveling from city to city in hotel after hotel and hoping all over the globe will be significantly scaled back and altered.

The structure has changed because they have hit a new stage in their long career. 60 and 70 is a big change.  I was trying to get people to think about this a few months ago when I said I couldn't beleive they were going to attempt another one of these major tours at this age, out in the weather, all that stuff. Now we are seeing they have some scrouples..


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Reply #371 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 9:05pm
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Ian Billen wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 8:57pm:
Pdog wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:35pm:
never thought I'd see a comment like, it's not like they are 60, they're 70, and say... to myself... that makes sense.
certain decades to make for big changes... 10 to 20 and 60 to 70... at a certain ppint in live, the body has extremes...




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Exactly, and this is the point I am trying to drive home. It doesn't seem like a big deal and many see it as just ten years.. just a decade... but the 10 years between a 60 year old and a 70 year old is pretty significant.  There's a big difference between a 60 year old and a 70 year old.

20-30 (a change) 30-40 (not much)... 40-50 (not bad)... 60-70 (significant change).

Folks say .. well they did it just four or five years ago. Well they struggled to do it at that traveling pace four or five years ago. It wasn't easy on them then and they had a harder time with it. Now, with this long lay-off, it probably is a very good call they try and work into this slowly. Even when they are ready, the days of The Rolling Stones traveling from city to city in hotel after hotel and hoping all over the globe will be significantly scaled back and altered.

The structure has changed because they have hit a new stage in their long career. 60 and 70 is a big change.  I was trying to get people to think about this a few months ago when I said I couldn't beleive they were going to attempt another one of these major tours at this age, out in the weather, all that stuff. Now we are seeing they have some scrouples..


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I agree with the big difference in 60-70........That's big.. really?
But for my own mind how about the 50-60, that's the one that concern me now adays! stu watching how stupid we are LOL

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Reply #372 - Mar 17th, 2012 at 11:01am
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Kilroy wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 9:05pm:
Ian Billen wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 8:57pm:
Pdog wrote on Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:35pm:
never thought I'd see a comment like, it's not like they are 60, they're 70, and say... to myself... that makes sense.
certain decades to make for big changes... 10 to 20 and 60 to 70... at a certain ppint in live, the body has extremes...




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Exactly, and this is the point I am trying to drive home. It doesn't seem like a big deal and many see it as just ten years.. just a decade... but the 10 years between a 60 year old and a 70 year old is pretty significant.  There's a big difference between a 60 year old and a 70 year old.

20-30 (a change) 30-40 (not much)... 40-50 (not bad)... 60-70 (significant change).

Folks say .. well they did it just four or five years ago. Well they struggled to do it at that traveling pace four or five years ago. It wasn't easy on them then and they had a harder time with it. Now, with this long lay-off, it probably is a very good call they try and work into this slowly. Even when they are ready, the days of The Rolling Stones traveling from city to city in hotel after hotel and hoping all over the globe will be significantly scaled back and altered.

The structure has changed because they have hit a new stage in their long career. 60 and 70 is a big change.  I was trying to get people to think about this a few months ago when I said I couldn't beleive they were going to attempt another one of these major tours at this age, out in the weather, all that stuff. Now we are seeing they have some scrouples..


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I agree with the big difference in 60-70........That's big.. really?
But for my own mind how about the 50-60, that's the one that concern me now adays! stu watching how stupid we are LOL



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