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Reply #50 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 7:16am
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Err, but the Stones are not a Vegas band – they are a London band who just happened to have it big stateside. If they were to do a series of shows anywhere, then it would have to be in the city where they were founded.

The glitz, tackiness and sheer bad taste of Vegas may suite Elton-and-co, but not The Rolling Stones.


If they want to do "residencies" I suggest towns like Butte, Omaha and Boise. You know, places where they can get massive attendance.

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Reply #51 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 7:23am
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Seriously, though. Can't they just scale it back and still travel around the world? I know in some parts of the world they might have to play a stadium gig but not in the States and the majority of Europe.

I mean, the arena shows were just so much better on "Licks" and ABB (at least from my point of view). Better sound, more intimate (or as intimate as possible).

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Reply #52 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 7:33am
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stones arent a vegas band as some one has said, and i have to agree, and considering their age, as someone else posted, 62 - 69 i think it was, this is most likely going to be the last 'big' one, if not the last one altogether

ive been trying to think of what they can do - although the thread title; is is fair to expect another tour? has been getting me thinking, just because we're fans doesnt mean we deserve them to go through the shitty stuff of a tour, granted the playing to thousands every night is a plus side, there are alot of bad things to go through

but ive been thinking of what they can do,i read recently that the whole U2 360 thing hasnt been doing too well, critically, so i think that'll free up the ego thing, as in theres no competition if bigger bang was the last great 'giant' tour kinda thing

but ive been thinking of a residency kinda thing for the stones, and it doesnt work, but ive also been thinking alone the lines of a long tour, more like two or three medium to large tours wrapped together as the big ''farewell'' tour, but i cant see this happening because the stones dont want to finalise anything, theyre not that kinda band, i dont think their egos, and rightly so, could say, "yeh thats it, 50 years, we're done" - i think theyd rather leave all the fans desperately wanting another tour until one of them passes, that'll be the only end; as keith has said.

but if been thinking of a blend of the two almost, as in, they play short residencies, say three to five gigs, in one place in one town, for example say 5 nights in london then 3 nights in scotland or northern england, the threen nights at the 02 arena in dublin, or croke park or something, then over to the equivalent in barcelona or madrid, or both, then paris etc etc, and it would be a 'come to them' situation, in large enough venues, but in different countries, as a large farewell tour, not explicitly known as the farewell tour - as they've taglined the last couple tours - but just a general consensus of this is the last one

and it would be a world tour, would be long im sure, like ive said almost like two or three tours, kinda like ABB with a two leg tour thing, maybe three or four years

something like that i can imagine, but i dont know if its feasible, or if they'd want to do it, but ABB was huge, they maybe able to top U2, but can they top themselves?

also, i was wondering, wouldn't universal also be expecting a tour, i mean they wouldnt take them over without a tour, do they make money from tours?

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Reply #53 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 8:07am
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i have no expectations and no desire to see them again... they quality decreased to the point where what it costs is not worth what I pay... if I expect more, then I will be dissapointed... I'll just see what happens and not think too much about it... I'm more in to their retrospective carrer and hoping for vault releases... that's where my expectations and let downs reside.
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Reply #54 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 9:53am
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Pdog wrote on Aug 1st, 2009 at 8:07am:
i have no expectations and no desire to see them again... they quality decreased to the point where what it costs is not worth what I pay... if I expect more, then I will be dissapointed... I'll just see what happens and not think too much about it... I'm more in to their retrospective carrer and hoping for vault releases... that's where my expectations and let downs reside.


I agree, i'm not often one to look to the past, and not the future, but they should retire and keep their dignity (or whats left of it)
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Reply #55 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 12:05pm
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homesickjameswilliamson wrote on Aug 1st, 2009 at 7:33am:
stones arent a vegas band as some one has said, and i have to agree, and considering their age, as someone else posted, 62 - 69 i think it was, this is most likely going to be the last 'big' one, if not the last one altogether




The term 'Vegas act' is as much a state of mind as it is geographical.
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Reply #56 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 12:37pm
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I am of the mind that the best of both worlds would be a massive release of the vaults followed by an extended engagement at some venue in NYC, London, and then perhaps some other European city, and maybe Oz.

I still say that the one sticking point is going to be Charlie. He is the one that holds the Stones' touring future in check. If he says go then they go. If he says no, then we are going to be faced with the possibility of a tour with Charlie Drayton, or some other drummer behind the kit. I for one, would love to see them release the vaults and then do a long goodbye via these extended engagments with Charlie. No Charlie, no Stones imho.


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qThe term 'Vegas act' is as much a state of mind as it is geographical.


i meant state of mind, though both are applicable, although i dont think they're ones to stick to one venue too long, hence the name, rolling stones

yeh, hope charlie decides to do one, although its probably not all resting on him, but im sure a bit of it is his dislike for touring, and health issues maybe, and age

though the stones without charlie are not the stones, well at least they're the stones but missing a HUGE piece, he's probably the only person you couldn't take out of the band
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Reply #58 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 3:22pm
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i meant state of mind, though both are applicable, although i dont think they're ones to stick to one venue too long, hence the name, rolling stones

Maybe right on the sticking to one venue bit, but we're in uncharted territory now. Understandable for men in their mid 60's with questionable health issues to be reluctant to be leaving home for lengthy periods.



I dont think the band name means much at this point, do you? It was a catchy name for a blues band when they first thought of it - but the Stones now are a million light years from the blues evangelists that they were in 1962. Shit, they dont even PLAY blues songs at most of their shows now, and a sizeable portion of their audience would probably be yawning or heading to the merchandise stand if they did. 
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yeh, hope charlie decides to do one, although its probably not all resting on him, but im sure a bit of it is his dislike for touring, and health issues maybe, and age

though the stones without charlie are not the stones, well at least they're the stones but missing a HUGE piece, he's probably the only person you couldn't take out of the band


The ONLY one? Whilst I think the world of the man and wouldnt be remotely interested in seeing the Stones without him, I think its a stretch to claim that he's more indispensable than Mick or Keith.
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I dont think the band name means much at this point, do you? It was a catchy name for a blues band when they first thought of it - but the Stones now are a million light years from the blues evangelists that they were in 1962. Shit, they dont even PLAY blues songs at most of their shows now, and a sizeable portion of their audience would probably be yawning or heading to the merchandise stand if they did.   


i know what you mean, i was playing a compilation i made of their 60s stuff, ABKCO stuff, and its astounding, every time i listen to it cant believe they even wanted to do something different, i mean, i know they went on to beggars etc, but the 60s stuff is phenomenal, i wish they'd do some of that in the future

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The ONLY one? Whilst I think the world of the man and wouldnt be remotely interested in seeing the Stones without him, I think its a stretch to claim that he's more indispensable than Mick or Keith.


i meant in terms of playing, keith, if we can be honest, isnt the greatest guitarist, anymore, Ronnie's still a good guitarist, and of course mick jagger's mick jagger, but charlie can still play and i think even if you ask the guys themselves the one person they couldnt/wouldnt want to be without - its charlie

although, they're such a tight band, even visually for non fans and fans alike, and musically that i dont think its possible to take one of them out, so its kind of a moot point anyway
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Reply #60 - Aug 2nd, 2009 at 7:10am
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IMO, the Stones would have toured without Ronnie a decade ago, but if anyone were to bail out now, then it would be curtains for the band.

As for Charlie: no Charlie, no Rolling Stones
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What if the vaults ain't all that?
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Reply #63 - Aug 2nd, 2009 at 9:18pm
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Some Guy wrote on Aug 2nd, 2009 at 5:13pm:
What if the vaults ain't all that?



W,w,w,w,w,w,whh,WHHHAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT. But they HAVE to be all that. Everybody says so. What the fuck?
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Some Guy wrote on Aug 2nd, 2009 at 5:13pm:
What if the vaults ain't all that?



There's good stuff in the vaults from all eras of the band. There's a dif mix of Sway from the single, a dif mix of all down the line from the single, I think I'm going mad from a single, the 8 track versions from Some Girls,  a ready to be released version of Drift Away that was puled back b/c someone else was releasing the same song... There's a 12 inch version of something from the 80's never released in the CD, I'm spacing on... I'm missing some other stuff too... and the countless tons of stuff we've heard on boots... there's master tapes and mixes of alot of that stuff... this is just off my head right before bed...
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I was driving around yesterday and a local radio station here said that the Stones are gearing up for another tour.
Didn't give specifics or cite any sources, but it sounded as if they had some new information.

really?

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I was driving around yesterday and a local radio station here said that the Stones are gearing up for another tour.
Didn't give specifics or cite any sources, but it sounded as if they had some new information.

really?


Then...did you listen to the entire 20 min commercial break leading up to the update ?!?  LOL
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Some Guy wrote on Aug 2nd, 2009 at 5:13pm:
What if the vaults ain't all that?



In terms of unreleased gems, whats been circulated would suggest there's nothing sensational  - but its a bit unfeasible to think that there arent great alternate takes/mixes of the likes of Gimme Shelter, Sympathy et al that we havent heard before.

Not to mention the fact that pretty much every Stones show since the early 70's has (apparently) been recorded by their sound crew.

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Some Guy wrote on Aug 2nd, 2009 at 5:13pm:
What if the vaults ain't all that?




Not to mention the fact that pretty much every Stones show since the early 70's has (apparently) been recorded by their sound crew.



If that is true...they should hand them over to the GRATEFUL DEAD folks who have done wonders w/ their vaults...ex/   they have figured out that on consecutive nights, monitors/speakers were about 12 inches further apart than the nite before...I am sure these days any sound engineer could figure that ( I assume...i know nothing about teat aspect of it)...but who knows...ANY clear sounding show that captures a tour is most certainly welcome in my home...just wish there were more GEMS throughout a tour...other than " ooooooo, they played "Sweet Virginia in Charlottesville"...again...ala GD...

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I'll tell ya, the reason I go to so many Stones tribute band gigs is because they give us the dream setlists that the Stones dont give us. And it's fun. Not a substitute, just a little Stones groovin. Gotta appreciate the tribute bands who do a great job playing the rarities. I even heard Sweet Neocon, which is not one of my favorites but when I heard it live, it really rocked! 3 nights of tribute bands in Wildwood coming up soon and I'm really looking forward to that! Labor Day Shidoobee weekend 10th anniversary. 3 days and nights of Stones hilarity.  Grin
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I even heard Sweet Neocon



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Reply #71 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 8:59am
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If they DO tour again, i won't be going to see them.


Oh no wait; i will...


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I'll tell ya, the reason I go to so many Stones tribute band gigs is because they give us the dream setlists that the Stones dont give us. And it's fun. Not a substitute, just a little Stones groovin. Gotta appreciate the tribute bands who do a great job playing the rarities. I even heard Sweet Neocon, which is not one of my favorites but when I heard it live, it really rocked! 3 nights of tribute bands in Wildwood coming up soon and I'm really looking forward to that! Labor Day Shidoobee weekend 10th anniversary. 3 days and nights of Stones hilarity.  Grin


Thats a pretty interesting take on a tribute band...they are so often regarded as tacky and well...frustrated wanna-bes...

makes me think twice...maybe a show soon is due?!?

Do you have 1 or 2 favorites? i know the Blushing Brides are a SHIDOOBEE fave...
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Satisfaction is the best of the tribute bands, by far. They play the Stones better than the Stones themselves! They got it down ~ line by line, note by note, each song is perfect and played with enthusiasm and raw talent. The Rolling Stones never perform a perfect show ~ missed chords, sour notes, goofed up lyrics, etc. Yet that is exactly why I love the STONES so much, they keep on rolling over those little inconsistncies! Also, Rocks Off and Shidoobee are both filled with Stones-loving men and women. I have alot of friends on Shidoobee because alot of them are located in the NE USA so we party together at these tribute gigs. People drive a few hours just to go to a tribute band!


Satisfaction are the most talented musically.
Shattered also rock your socks off.
The GLimmer Twins are great fun.
Hot Rocks gives the dream setlists.
Mike Hunt Band has a female MICK & KEEF, and they play albums in there entirety which is cool.
Blushing Brides also have alot of talent and .
Rolling Tones are great and play 3 very nice sets, go from old to new material      
Stoners the name says it all
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Bitch wrote on Aug 5th, 2009 at 9:31pm:
Satisfaction are the most talented musically.
Shattered also rock your socks off.
The GLimmer Twins are great fun.
Hot Rocks gives the dream setlists.
Mike Hunt Band has a female MICK & KEEF, and they play albums in there entirety which is cool.
Blushing Brides also have alot of talent and .
Rolling Tones are great and play 3 very nice sets, go from old to new material      
Stoners the name says it all



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