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Reply #100 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 5:20pm
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ALBUM REVIEW: LOVE VOLUME ONE



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There's no other word for it, I've been mainlining this album.
Once a day, usually after dinner, after a little red wine, I sprawl
out on the couch and return to the days of yore. Its lucky I'm not
smoking rope anymore, or it would be more than once a day I'm sure.

After 10 of these listening sessions, I'm now friends with all the
tracks. I know their names, and even a little about their backgrounds.
Its a disparate bunch, in terms of age, birthplace and parenting, so
I'm still kind of shocked at what a consistent vibe this album has.

What's the tie that binds? Well, not counting his solo work, this is
the most Keith Richards album ever. Even more than on Exile, his rhythm
guitar is leading and elevating the band, and inspiring Mick, raising
the bar for everybody. When the music is this strong, you don't have
to care so much about song structure and lyrics. Or at least I don't.

Random notes:

1) One of the absolute revelations of "On Air" was Wyman's bass being
given prominence in the mix. Same with this release.

2) The proper name for track 9 is "God Shit". It may not have fit
well into a mid-80s commercial album, but there will always be an
honored place for it in my. blue. heaven.

3) The proper name for track 5 is "Old Eliza Jane". It is the Stones'
version of the many "Liza Jane" variations that originated in the
early 19th century and which became standardized in Appalachia and
New Orleans as "Lil Liza Jane" (young and a real sweetheart) and
"Good Bye Eliza Jane" (when she's gotten jaded and just uses men
for their money, until they inevitably smarten up and kick her to
the curb). Its easy to guess which tradition Mick has adapted:
Old Eliza's gambling/Old Eliza Jane/Old Eliza gone back in time/
Back on the streets again


4) Mick blows me away on track 15. To work out the melody, instead of
using placeholder lyrics, like mccartney's "scrambled eggs" for
"yesterday", or repetitive scat syllables like "da-da-dee-da-da",
Mick uses stream-of-consciousness near-words to get at the emotion
of the song first. We've heard this before, on this or that missing
line, but never for a whole song with lots of lyrics. The result is
artistry that easily stands on its own merits, even though it would
never be allowed on a standard blues-rock release. Its smooth jazz.
I love it when a Stones album closes with something dream-like.

5) I haven't head-to-head compared Goats Head Deluxe "Scarlet" with
this one, but for some reason I like this one more. Maybe its just
my imagination, thinking this one's so much better. Whatever. Always
take the pleasure where you find it.

6) I'm glad they left off the three other tracks that were on those
ebay CDs. "Nobody's Perfect" and "Lowdown" are good, but the former
is too Dave Stewart and the latter is too Winos. As for "walk with
me wendy", that's the track they should've called "dog shit". You
can hear poor Mick Taylor and Billy Preston way in the background
doing their virtuoso thing, but Jagger and Richards are both so
loud and grating they make the whole thing unlistenable.

7) Anyway, in case you hadn't noticed, I'm still happily overwhelmed by
the unvarnished brilliance of "Love Volume One". Its a conceptually
cohesive killer album for me, not a collection of unrelated fragments.
That's why i'm very glad i haven't gotten my hands on "love volume
two" yet. I need more time. I don't want to OD.

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Reply #101 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 10:34am
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Gazza... is it Eliza Upchink or Lipchink as you posted in tracks list...
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Reply #102 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 1:55pm
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Upchink!

Whatever the fuck that means!

The first post is the details as per the original bootleg release.. I just copied and pasted them.

Reply #76 is the corrected titles as far as is known.
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Reply #103 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 3:20pm
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Unrealted to all of this, but related sorta...

This popped up on my YouTube feed from where I have been listening to these tracks while working...there's a few of these...though it worth posting here...sorry if it was previously
It was posted by the girl who posted the all-in-one continuous link of the new tracks...and btw...that link is no longer available

1978 tour rehearsals...

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Reply #104 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:48am
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Gazza wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 1:55pm:
Upchink!

Whatever the fuck that means!

The first post is the details as per the original bootleg release.. I just copied and pasted them.

Reply #76 is the corrected titles as far as is known.


Thanks.
the original 162 VBR had correct tags I just fixed a few names on the 320's linked here. Many thanks
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Reply #105 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 10:24am
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Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 14th, 2021 at 5:20pm:
ALBUM REVIEW: LOVE VOLUME ONE



More days, more listens...

I wish i had the balls to say what i really think,
that "love volume one" is the greatest Stones album
ever. But i don't want to be put in a mental hospital.

So i'll just keep refering to it more acceptably as
my "current favorite".

Every track is peak Stones musically (not in terms
of hit songs). So there's no way i can move on to
volume two yet. I would feel like i was cheating on
a great girlfriend. Also i can't conceive of volume two
being anywhere near this good.

So for now i'll keep burning volume one deep into my
DNA, and try not to become too unmoored as i face
this absurdly unlikely blast of Keith/Stones ecstacy
in the year fucking 2021.


With all due respect, y'all are underestimating this album
as badly as the people of 1972 underestimated Exile.
And for the same reasons.

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Reply #106 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 9:51am
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Just listened to Covered in Bruises again. After about 4 spins, i appreciate a bit more.
Just waiting on Vol 4-5-6.

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Reply #107 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 3:22pm
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Ok...I have received the silvers from Italy via Ebay. When I use EAC the files appear to be lossless. First track is 41.5 mb wav. I have taken pictures of EAC log and Spek analysis but am an amateur at reading them and don't know how to post them here. I could email pictures to an expert?
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Reply #108 - Mar 21st, 2021 at 10:03am
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ALBUM REVIEW: LOVE VOLUME TWO



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1) After training my ear with "love volume one" and its
different somewhat radical aesthetic, it was much easier to get into
volume two. Two is great too, perhaps just not as great as one.

2) On volume one, Keith was at his most brilliant and
rightly dominated the band. That's the highest form of
"peak stones" (as famously exhibited on their historic
"big four" run of albums). With "love volume two" we get
to hear the lesser form of "peak stones" wherein the creative
energy behind the music is sourced from everybody. For
example, the contribution of the piano players on volume
two is deservedly spotlighted more. Jagger shares more
in the band leader role.

3) I don't know who came up with the idea, on both volumes,
of making Mick, for the first time ever, as FREE as the
guitarists to mess around, go wherever his emotions take
him, even skip his parts. A mick jagger unfettered by any
commercial constraints or genre conventions, just being himself,
is certainly one of the highlights for me of this year, or any year.

4) From what i've read on the stones fan forums, apparently
i'm still the only one in possession of these two albums.
I don't understand that at all. What's so special about
me that I should be blessed this way? Or am I just dreaming?
Or worse yet, dead, in some impossibly sweet afterlife?

5) Wish you were here.



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Reply #109 - Mar 21st, 2021 at 3:16pm
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Someone on youtube took the time to put together a fanmade video for 'Not The Way To Go'. Nice job, too

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Gazza wrote on Mar 21st, 2021 at 3:16pm:
Someone on youtube took the time to put together a fanmade video for 'Not The Way To Go'. Nice job, too



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Reply #111 - Mar 23rd, 2021 at 8:32pm
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Thanks to ace historian Martin Elliott - www.stonessessions.com - for piecing together his own insight into which of the 50 songs are newly available


https://twitter.com/StonesSessions/status/1372583271314427904/photo/1

https://twitter.com/StonesSessions/status/1372583271314427904/photo/2

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Reply #112 - Mar 24th, 2021 at 9:29am
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Gazza wrote on Mar 23rd, 2021 at 8:32pm:
Thanks to ace historian Martin Elliott - www.stonessessions.com - for piecing together his own insight into which of the 50 songs are newly available



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Reply #113 - Mar 24th, 2021 at 2:18pm
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Thanks for that.

I'm assuming '20 Nil' being credited as 2004 (ie, a 'Bigger Bang' outtake') is a typo. I think he means 1997.  I recall Don Was confirming they used everything for ABB.
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Reply #114 - Mar 28th, 2021 at 3:07am
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"they who have ears, let them hear" Matthew 13:43

"there's lots of things in the vault we're working on
that are going to come out"
mick jagger sep 2020

"new music on the horizon" keith richards feb 2021


1) I promise this is the last time I push this passion project
of mine. Sadly, your only compensation for being patient with me
is a couple of download links at the end.

2) At the very least, we can agree that the "finished outtakes"
can be divided into "substantially new" and "not".

3) A further breakdown could be "artifacts" versus "fresh tracks".
Primary amongst the "artifacts" is of course the bowie demo of "iorr".
Nobody can argue against its historical importance. But it is
not "fresh" in the sense i'm using the word. It hasn't been
updated or worked on.

4) Other reasons for non-inclusion of various "outtakes"
include "too mick", "too keith","too been-there-done-that",
or simply because the track does not have enough of the
ragged private-stash vibe that characterizes this collection.

5) Generally speaking, the bonus outtakes on the deluxe albums
have mostly been Mick Jagger products, where he's completed the
lyrics and re-done the vocals in an approximation of his vocal
style at the time of the original session. I appreciate his efforts,
but I don't think the results heretofore have been particularly great.
The deluxe bonus tracks generally sound like what they are. Concoctions.
Imitations.

6) So the first thing i noticed after my first few listens of
"fully finished outtakes" was how many tracks sounded not at all
like concoctions. Mostly because of the very different way Jagger's
vocals and lyrics were handled.

7) But neither did these new tracks sound "raw". Not talking just
about the sound quality. Rather it was clear SOMEBODY had recently
put in a LOT of post-production work on the music.

8) Specifically (in my opinion) four SOMEBODIES, working in two
teams: Keith and Don Was, Mick and Matt Clifford, with Don and
Matt handling the negotiations between the teams. A) Keith got
the time to layer and color with his guitars, to his heart's
content. That's the biggest reason these "Love" tracks have
so much classic-Stones depth. B) Another reason is that Don has
augmented the bass and Matt the keyboards on many of the tracks.
C) And Mick has (happily) agreed that his vocals, whether original
or new, be buried somewhat, that is, be used more as an instrument
than as a hook.

9) Another important division that has persisted throughout the
Stones career is "classic blues rock/big hits/in your face numbers"
versus "groove tracks/mood pieces". The "blues rock" and "big hits"
categories are obvious. But don't forget the "in your face" tracks have
also been key to their huge fame. Stuff like "star fucker",
"doom and gloom", "under my thumb", "sister morphine" etc,
songs where the theme captures a great deal of the attention.

However, for a significant fraction of hardcore fans, including me,
the groove tracks and mood pieces are also very important: lyrics
minimal or buried, choruses and bridges minimal. Stuff like "turd
on the run", "heaven", "pretty beat up", "parachute woman",
"just wanna see his face" etc...

8) So that's my contention basically, that out of the 50 tracks
we were gifted, there are about 28 that more or less meet these
"fresh" criteria, and more or less flow into each other as easily
as, for example, the very dissimilar tracks of "sticky fingers" do.
Or perhaps a better parallel would be "Tattoo you" with its various
recording dates (although the average track on these "Love" albums
is far superior to the average track on "Tattoo"). Also: amazingly
these new tracks flow without me at all changing the playing order.
That's because none of the 28 are "in your face" tracks needing to
be placed and spaced carefully.

9) in summary, these two "Love" compilations are strictly a musical
journey for we, the few, the proud, the Stones cognizati.

I hear these two volumes as a validictory statement by the band,
consisting of what they most like about themselves. Not the fame, not
the money, not the controversy, not even the hit songs. But rather
the MUSIC, both spontaneous and crafted. Commerce for once be damned.

And that's why the Stones needed to make these tracks free. Today's market
just would never fucking understand.


(download links good for 7 days)



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Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Mar 28th, 2021 at 3:07am:
And that's why the Stones needed to make these tracks free. Today's market
just would never fucking understand.


WOW!
Stated simply and with authority!!

Thanks R2R for Martin Elliott's breakdown of the songs.

I do have one question, for all of this has been a bit confusing to me, as I look at the various eBay listings...some OBVIOUSLY boots of this "fan club" release...this is all an ACTUAL limited release, innit?

Is it/was it for sale in Japan...or was it actually leaked and made available? Will there soon be an official RS release of the vol 1-3 package and all this is just manic super-fan traffic?

My brain cant sort thru all these posts and such to determine what actually took place in the last month..

just looking to get on the same page as everyone...thanks
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Reply #116 - Mar 28th, 2021 at 11:49am
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Thanks Rev, I downloaded both.
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Reply #117 - Mar 29th, 2021 at 9:49am
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Just waiting for thenext volumes, and more, better info on Elliotts site
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Reply #118 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 10:30am
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7 more, thanks Rogerriffin for the link, it was posted at IORR and I saw it posted by Nico Zentgraf too, thanks to all

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Reply #119 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 2:09pm
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These are very good too.

Not sure how 'Undercover' fits in this set if its supposed to be from 1997, so I guess its a collection over several years.
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Reply #120 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 4:35pm
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7 more, thanks Rogerriffin for the link, it was posted at IORR and I saw it posted by Nico Zentgraf too, thanks to all

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Download them here https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DC00C280BAFF161B!45306&authkey=!AD4HPjrnu6...



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Great stuff,the 7 new ones,interesting
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Undercover and saint of me are ...just great.
Hoping for more presents
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Since the link I posted sucked or expired, here's another, valid for one week

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