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Reply #550 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:38pm
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buddhabone wrote on Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:59pm:
Based on the sample I just heard these "Outtakes" should say: Inspired by the Exile On Main St era.

Maybe I'm in a sullen mood, but I'm looking forward to be a little let down by this project.


I was too. Believe me, the thought of Jagger trying to sound like Jagger circa 71 etc....was depressing and i was pissed at the audacity of it...but this snippet, while obviously new vocally, is good, so far.
SOunds like Jagger really trying to get into the feel, mindset of Exile. If anything, it may not be a "true, pure, outtake, but its a great example of what the Stones can still do at sixty-something.
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Reply #551 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:50pm
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Bitch wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:48am:
left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:17am:
There's a 30 second snippet of 'Plundered My Soul' in advance of the single release.

You can hear it @ amazon.co.uk



Very cool! I love the song! It does sound like MICK's vocals are recent, and not old. His voice was softer then.

Short and sound is crap so I'll reserve judgement but this doesn't very interesting, new vocal obviously, and that guitar line sounds new too, the type of single note doodle  Keith plays these days.

Reminds me of something I can't quite place at this point...an old Beatles song by John, let's see...that's it "I call your name"...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LnR6GX-Re8
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Reply #552 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:00pm
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I'm gonna make a foolhardy prediction: Jagger and Taylor will play "Plundered" with the Roots on the Fallon show.
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Reply #553 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:01pm
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gotdablouse wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:50pm:
Reminds me of something I can't quite place at this point...an old Beatles song by John, let's see...that's it "I call your name"...

Don't hear a Fabs influence at all.

Reminds me of 'Tumbling Dice'...
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Reply #554 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:05pm
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:01pm:
gotdablouse wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:50pm:
Reminds me of something I can't quite place at this point...an old Beatles song by John, let's see...that's it "I call your name"...

Don't hear a Fabs influence at all.

Reminds me of 'Tumbling Dice'...


And it definitely ain't Keith-style noodling. MT all the way...
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Reply #555 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:07pm
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I'm not even listening to this song with the thought of it being anything other than Jagger revisiting Exile. I'm fairly convinced very little of these songs are pure in their orginal Exile form.
To me, it may as well be the new stones we've been waiting for...
Jagger he's been "living with Exile" for the last few months. Maybe this really is a revisitation.
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Reply #556 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:27pm
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My mistake was to think it was going to be fully exile styled (...which is impossible to to do circa 2010)

The groove is good once you dig it for what it is.

I'll buy it April 16.
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Reply #557 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:44pm
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buddhabone wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:27pm:
My mistake was to think it was going to be fully exile styled (...which is impossible to to do circa 2010)

The groove is good once you dig it for what it is.

I'll buy it April 16.



That's how I've been trying to approach it. I must have been crazy to think that there were really "lost tracks" from Exile......, like finding a "lost" book of the bible.
But listening to the snippet as it is, it sounds like what I would have wanted a "new" stones song to sound like. Maybe having Exile as his guide was a good thing for Jagger. He has always dismissed Exile, just to be contrary, I suspect because that's what he does. But apparently, he has been really delving into the spirit of that time, those songs etc......maybe finally seeing in Exile what most of us always knew and its given him a new appreciation of it. But yes, it should be presented as 'songs inspired by.....
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Reply #558 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:11pm
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They're songs from...

Some of 'em may have needed more polishing than others, but they aren't "new".

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Reply #559 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:17pm
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:11pm:
Songs from...

Some of 'em may have needed more polishing than others, but they aren't "new".




But if I think of them as not "new", I'll be distracted by the Was-esque polish and Jagger's new vocals.....so I'd rather take them as something-old, something-new........
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You're assuming that Jagger recorded new vocals for every song.
All reports indicate that's not the case.

Me, I'm just gonna take 'em...
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Reply #561 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:27pm
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We all are, better than nothing !

Ah doesn't it sound a bit like "Stealing my Heart" too, one of the tracks the Stones deemed worthy enough to be on Forty Licks back in 2002 ?
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Reply #562 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:33pm
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:20pm:
You're assuming that Jagger recorded new vocals for every song.
All reports indicate that's not the case.

Me, I'm just gonna take 'em...



Jagger added new vocals, possibly lyrics to Plundered and Following the River appears to be an entirely new song, but I'll take them too.
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Reply #563 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:41pm
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From Rolling Stone:

Tell me about "Following The River." That's a brand new vocal, right?
MJ: I just started from nothing on that. The core tape of it was the piano and the drums, bass, and guitar. There was no top line or lyric. I started from scratch — I mean, that's what I do, and I've done it many times before. And it's daunting in the beginning, but after a while you get into it.

So how do you go about writing lyrics?

You just sit down and write it as you would anything else, you know? Sometimes you write the lyrics while you're sitting down playing the piano or guitar, and the lyrics come to you while you're writing the song. And sometimes you write the melody first and you have to write all the lyrics. And sometimes you get half the lyrics. And sometimes there's a track that you didn't turn up on the session. And they say, "Mick, we've done this great track. Will you write the words?" And that was this one.
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I liked what I heard of Plundered, but I just don't get the concept of "adding" shit to previously declared "discovered" tracks.
Its like finding the third tablet of the 10 commandments and having Joel Osteen "adding" some new stuff.........
Exile is untouchable and I would have been fine with the tracks releasable. If they were instrumentals, fine. But why go in and try to write new lyrics and new vocals. Yeah, alot of fans will be happy just to hear this stuff and myself? I'm curious, but cautious.
I don't like the idea of Don Was being part of Exile period. LIsa Fischer...etc....
Exile is Exile. It was recorded in the summer of 71, before or whatever. Now, we've Don Was credited alongside Jimmy Miller.
Yeah, I'm a purist.
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'Exile' will remain 'Exile'.

The other 10 songs are a lagniappe.
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Reply #566 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:14pm
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Yes, this is sickening, Jimmy Miller was the Stones at their zenith, Don Was is the Stones at their nadir, not that it's entirely his fault but he's certainly not pushed them to do any better. Case in point when he played "She saw me coming", or whatever that horrible song on ABB was called, to someone here who was lurking around the studios and didn't realize it would make him miserable for the rest of his life Wink
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Reply #567 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:29pm
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I like it more
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Reply #568 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:19pm
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gotdablouse wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
Yes, this is sickening, Jimmy Miller was the Stones at their zenith, Don Was is the Stones at their nadir, not that it's entirely his fault but he's certainly not pushed them to do any better. Case in point when he played "She saw me coming", or whatever that horrible song on ABB was called, to someone here who was lurking around the studios and didn't realize it would make him miserable for the rest of his life Wink



Yeah, it bugs the shit of me that his name is alongside Jimmy Miller....that's enough of a turn-off to me to be leery. This guy has brought nothing to the Stones legacy but crap. Maybe he isn't all to blame, but he is a horrible indication of what the Stones are now.
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If it's any consolation, everything I've read about Don Was' involvement in this project is with the 10 "new" songs.
The talk of new vocals, etc. is about those songs.

The remastering of 'Exile' proper was done - as were the previous Stones UMG remasters - by Marcussen Mastering.

I'd guess that Jimmy Miller won't be sharing a producer's credit on that...
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corgi37 wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 2:43am:
What on Earth has Will.I.AM got to say?


I don't what he has to say about Exile, but this was my indication that the Peas were Stones fans....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzIO4fUsrp4

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No doubt Mick would approve.
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Reply #572 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 2:41pm
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im sorry i dont have time to read this whole thread, i just wanna know, what is on the DVD, is it worth buying for that???
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'Stones In Exile' is being released separately, and is 2 hours longer than the version included with Super Deluxe.

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Release Date: Jun 14 2010

Running Time: 151 mins approx

In the spring of 1971 the Rolling Stones departed the UK to take up residence in France as tax exiles. Keith Richards settled at a villa called Nellcôte in Villefranche-sur-Mer and this became the venue for the recording of much of the band's masterpiece 'Exile On Main Street'. 'Stones In Exile' tells the story in the band's own words and through extensive archive footage of their time away from England and the creation of this extraordinary double album, which many regard as the Rolling Stones’ finest achievement.

Extensive additional footage including interviews with all the band members, footage from 'Cocksucker Blues' and Mick Jagger and Charlie Watts returning to Olympic Studios and Jagger's country house Stargroves where a lot of the early work on the album was done.

Additional contributions from: Martin Scorsese, Jack White, Don Was, Caleb Followill (Kings Of Leon), Benicio Del Toro, Will.I.Am (Black Eyed Peas), Sheryl Crow, Anita Pallenberg, Ronnie Wood, producer Jimmy Miller, engineer Andy Johns, photographer Dominique Tarlé and sax player Bobby Keys.

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Reply #574 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 4:46pm
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texile wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:33pm:
left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:20pm:
You're assuming that Jagger recorded new vocals for every song.
All reports indicate that's not the case.

Me, I'm just gonna take 'em...



Jagger added new vocals, possibly lyrics to Plundered and Following the River appears to be an entirely new song, but I'll take them too.


I know, it's only overdubbed, but I like it. Like it. Yes I do.
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