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Title: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 24th, 2010 at 9:00am
BBC Worldwide signs deal for Universal Music television content
BBC Worldwide's push into music programming given boost by deal, which includes Rolling Stones documentary Tara Conlan guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 24 February 2010 08.08 GMT BBC Worldwide's push into selling more music programming has been given another boost with the signing of a new long-term deal to distribute all Universal Music's television content. The BBC's commercial arm has also secured the international distribution to a new documentary about the making of the Rolling Stones' 1972 album Exile on Main St, which features new interviews with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. Under the terms of the Universal contract, BBC Worldwide will sell new television shows from Universal Music along with content from a "selection of international artists signed through Universal Music Group International". The deal was announced yesterday at international sales market BBC Showcase in Brighton, which featured a performance by Universal artists the Sugababes. Stephen Davies, the director of BBC Worldwide Audio & Music, said: "We are proud to become distribution partner with the world's biggest record label and are delighted to be representing such a great roster of artists. "This deal further strengthens our relationship with Universal and, with its promise of more great programming, will take BBC Worldwide Music to a new level as a major music distributor." Exile on Main St is directed by Stephen Kijak and features the story behind the making of the sprawling double album, which was recorded over several years, including a period in mid 1971 when the Stones decamped to a chateau near Nice in southern France for tax reasons. The Guardian Wonder if this'll be included in the 'Exile' re-issue, or if it's something else altogether... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Some Guy on Feb 24th, 2010 at 9:02am
The Stones will be salvaged with Exile.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by gimmekeef on Feb 24th, 2010 at 9:16am
Let's hope this documentary isn't the only dvd content in the re-issue. Doubt the boys will remember much about the sessions anyway.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Heart Of Stone on Feb 24th, 2010 at 10:58am
it will be great to see new interviews with Mick & Keith, yeah, as the last post mentions, it's a wonder they can remember, like Jagger once said something to the fact they were just winging it, they were so stoned.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Riffhard on Feb 24th, 2010 at 11:24am
I think it's safe to say that the Stones have pulled the cord on their golden parachute. A new distribution deal, the release of extended versions of Ya-Yas and now Exile, new film deals. They are starting to slowly dip into the vaults. It's all good. I just hope there is at least one more tour in them yet. What does Ian Billian have to say about this?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Gazza on Feb 24th, 2010 at 11:43am
I would be quite surprised if this documentary is NOT included in the reissue. Would seem a bit pointless from Universal's perspective to have a documentary put together at this point in time for this record and then not include it with a deluxe reissue thats been already delayed specifically so that bonus content can be included.
Tseverin on IORR has posted something else today which would probably tie in with this. (I've known the guy for years and don't doubt him for a second) I am doing a freelance job at the BBC today and managed to just miss seeing a dvd being dubbed called, wait for it 'Exile On Main Street cut 31 V2'! My colleague did the job but didn't monitor it so couldn't tell me what was on it. I tried my luck and phoned the production person on the jobsheet & asked if I could borrow a copy to watch. She was very friendly and said all the copies were being picked up by courier shortly but that she would put aside a finished copy for me. Apparently an independent company is putting together various cuts of it to show Alan Yentob and he will decide whether or not to commission it, probably for BBC4. This is exciting and suggests either that it is the rumoured dvd that might accompany the Deluxe reissue in april/may or it is a separate documentary, perhaps to coincide with the release... If I am lucky and this production woman is true to her word I should get an early copy in a few weeks and will report back with more info then. For those who dont know who Alan Yentob is, he's the BBC's Creative Director. From Stephen Kijak's official website - http://www.stephenkijak.com/bio.htm "He is currently in post-production on a documentary commissioned by The Rolling Stones about the making of their 1972 classic album "Exile on Main Street." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Heart Of Stone on Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:24pm
[quote author=Gazza link=1267023633/0#5 date=1267033414]I would be quite surprised if this documentary is NOT included in the reissue. Would seem a bit pointless from Universal's perspective to have a documentary put together at this point in time for this record and then not include it with a deluxe reissue thats been already delayed specifically so that bonus content can be included.
Tseverin on IORR has posted something else today which would probably tie in with this. (I've known the guy for years and don't doubt him for a second) I am doing a freelance job at the BBC today and managed to just miss seeing a dvd being dubbed called, wait for it 'Exile On Main Street cut 31 V2'! My colleague did the job but didn't monitor it so couldn't tell me what was on it. I tried my luck and phoned the production person on the jobsheet & asked if I could borrow a copy to watch. She was very friendly and said all the copies were being picked up by courier shortly but that she would put aside a finished copy for me. Apparently an independent company is putting together various cuts of it to show Alan Yentob and he will decide whether or not to commission it, probably for BBC4. This is exciting and suggests either that it is the rumoured dvd that might accompany the Deluxe reissue in april/may or it is a separate documentary, perhaps to coincide with the release... If I am lucky and this production woman is true to her word I should get an early copy in a few weeks and will report back with more info then. For those who dont know who Alan Yentob is, he's the BBC's Creative Director. He's also the guy who did a documentary on Bowie in '74 called "Cracked Actor" when Bowie was doing his Diamond Dogs tour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracked_Actor |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Some Guy on Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:33pm
wow, just wow.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:35pm
Any chance this was the reason for the delay in the tour. In order to finish some of these projects?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Some Guy on Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:41pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:35pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Kilroy on Feb 24th, 2010 at 6:33pm
Great bit of News Here............
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by platter on Feb 24th, 2010 at 6:41pm Some Guy wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:41pm:
reason enough....omph |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Pdog on Feb 24th, 2010 at 6:59pm
this ain't no VH1 behind the music!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by AngieBlue on Feb 25th, 2010 at 7:11am
Air the documentary on tv the week or so before the release. Get the machine rolling.
I wonder if it will air in the US. Not all cable companies carry the BBC. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by TDICE on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:01am
As Posted on IORR:
[www.rollingstone.com] The Rolling Stones’ classic Exile in Main Street — one of Rolling Stone’s highest-ranking Greatest Albums of All Time — is returning as a very special reissue. On May 18th, Universal Music Group is re-releasing the album with 10 never-before-heard tracks, including “Plundered My Soul,” “Dancing in the Light,” “Following the River” and “Pass the Wine,” that were produced by Jimmy Miller, the Glimmer Twins and Don Was. The disc also features alternate versions of “Soul Survivor” and “Loving Cup.” Mick Jagger tells Rolling Stone when the record company asked him to dive in his files for possible bonus songs, he initially believed the band had used all they’d written on the 1972 double album (read RS’s original review). “I went back in the archives and dug out a load of things,” he says. “I added some percussion and some vocals. Keith put guitar on one or two.” Jagger wrote fresh lyrics for “Following the River,” but other than some light revisions to the other songs, “I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were,” Keith Richards says. “I didn’t want to interfere with the Bible, you know. They still had that great basement sound.” The intimate Rolling Stones: photos from the band’s 1969 tour. A deluxe edition of the reissue will also include Stones in Exile, a documentary directed by Stephen Kijak that tracks the making of Exile, along with footage from @#$%& Blues and Ladies and Gentlemen… the Rolling Stones. After seeing the Exile film for the first time recently, Richards says, “I must not have noticed all the cameramen while I was making the record. I was amazed at how much footage they actually found.” The Exile on Main Street reissue will be sold a CD featuring the original 18 tracks or as a deluxe CD edition with the 10 bonus tracks. The super deluxe package includes vinyl, the 30-minute documentary DVD and a 50-page collector’s book with photos from the Exile era. For much more news on the Rolling Stones’ Exile reissue, check out the next issue of Rolling Stone, on newsstands Wednesday, March 3rd. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Nellcote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:13am
Hallelujah~Angels beating on their wings in time!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by gimmekeef on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:25am
I already love Pass The Wine..and I've never heard it!!!!! what about Scarlet? maybe just not mentioned in article??
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by AngieBlue on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:29am
That made my day! Oh boys...guess what Mom wants for Mother's Day? ;D
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by polytoxic on Feb 25th, 2010 at 9:16am
[quote After seeing the Exile film for the first time recently, Richards says, “I must not have noticed all the cameramen while I was making the record.”
[/quote] ;D Okay, I'm psyched. Bring it on. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Jesus Christ on Feb 25th, 2010 at 3:35pm TDICE wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:01am:
Oh crap. Wonder what this is gonna set me back... oh well, at least (unlike the super duper deluxe edition ABB) it's going to be worth the money. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by Honky Tonk Man on Feb 25th, 2010 at 4:05pm Jesus Christ wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 3:35pm:
Hmm... I'm not thrilled with the idea of splashing extra dosh for a 30-minute documentary to be honest. It'll be the regular deluxe edition for me. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 25th, 2010 at 4:36pm I'm all in on this one... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Documentary Post by corgi37 on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:13am
There indeed are 2 totally different doco's! one for the tv, 1 for the cd.
lucky us! |
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Title: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Mel Belli on Feb 25th, 2010 at 10:16am
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/02/25/unearthed-rolling-stones-tracks-set-to-debut-on-exile-on-main-street-reissue/
Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks Set to Debut on “Exile on Main Street” Reissue 2/25/10, 8:00 am EST Photo: AFP/Getty The Rolling Stones’ classic Exile on Main Street — one of Rolling Stone’s highest-ranking Greatest Albums of All Time — is returning as a very special reissue. On May 18th, Universal Music Group is re-releasing the album with 10 never-before-heard tracks, including “Plundered My Soul,” “Dancing in the Light,” “Following the River” and “Pass the Wine,” that were produced by Jimmy Miller, the Glimmer Twins and Don Was. The disc also features alternate versions of “Soul Survivor” and “Loving Cup.” Mick Jagger tells Rolling Stone when the record company asked him to dive in his files for possible bonus songs, he initially believed the band had used all they’d written on the 1972 double album (read RS’s original review). “I went back in the archives and dug out a load of things,” he says. “I added some percussion and some vocals. Keith put guitar on one or two.” Jagger wrote fresh lyrics for “Following the River,” but other than some light revisions to the other songs, “I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were,” Keith Richards says. “I didn’t want to interfere with the Bible, you know. They still had that great basement sound.” The intimate Rolling Stones: photos from the band’s 1969 tour. A deluxe edition of the reissue will also include Stones in Exile, a documentary directed by Stephen Kijak that tracks the making of Exile, along with footage from Cocksucker Blues and Ladies and Gentlemen… the Rolling Stones. After seeing the Exile film for the first time recently, Richards says, “I must not have noticed all the cameramen while I was making the record. I was amazed at how much footage they actually found.” The Exile on Main Street reissue will be sold a CD featuring the original 18 tracks or as a deluxe CD edition with the 10 bonus tracks. The super deluxe package includes vinyl, the 30-minute documentary DVD and a 50-page collector’s book with photos from the Exile era. For much more news on the Rolling Stones’ Exile reissue, check out the next issue of Rolling Stone, on newsstands Wednesday, March 3rd. |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Some Guy on Feb 25th, 2010 at 10:40am
well it's allright now!
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Gimme Shelter on Feb 25th, 2010 at 10:52am
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:10am
When I saw RS.Com I thought maybe the Stones official site had some news.....Silly me. :nanker
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Heart Of Stone on Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:16am
This is already posted in another thread.
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by texile on Feb 25th, 2010 at 1:50pm
Why is Jagger fucking around with the Bible?
seriously - I agree with Keith. If the songs were not complete, then leave them as unfinished gems. When I read that Jagger re-wrote "fresh" lyrics and vocals, I could only think of Streets of Love.... What is the point? That period was epic in the Stones history - it was the end of the 60s, the beginning of a new era, a transition, Jagger had broken up with Marianne, married Bianca etc.... The music reflects all that they were going through, not what high-heel-wearing, hollywood hobnobbing Jagger thinks is "fresh" in 2010. |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Some Guy on Feb 25th, 2010 at 2:54pm texile wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 1:50pm:
you just came along and let the air out of my balloon. |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by gimmekeef on Feb 25th, 2010 at 4:11pm
I have always made the point that one reason Exile wasn't a bigger commercial hit is the lyrics are almost impossible for the average listener to hear clearly. Mick's voice is loud enough buy hard to hear what he is singing. Average fans like to hear the words and som of the best ever Stones lyrics are hidden here. Hopefully some clarity there would be a huge upgrade.
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by stonedinaustralia on Feb 25th, 2010 at 4:58pm
but gk, isn't that one of the reason's it is the masterpiece that it is?
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by texile on Feb 25th, 2010 at 6:32pm gimmekeef wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 4:11pm:
But he's adding "fresh lyrics" adding new vocals! Its not like he's clarifying the sonic quality of the tracks or remastering or whatever it is they do. He's putting his 66-year old-2010 pudgy fingers all over his 27-year old-1972 immaculate prime. Jagger's voice is different than it was in 71 and his writing more powerful and yes, often indeciperable and enigmatic, but as my aussie friend points out, that's why Exile was a masterpiece. Some Guy, my bubble just burst too. |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Mel Belli on Feb 25th, 2010 at 6:47pm
Sounds like he's only doing it some of the unreleased tracks, not the main body of the album.
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Gimme Shelter on Feb 25th, 2010 at 7:42pm
They need to tour behind this rerelease.
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Gimme Shelter on Feb 25th, 2010 at 7:48pm
The Exile on Main Street reissue will be sold a CD featuring the original 18 tracks or as a deluxe CD edition with the 10 bonus tracks. The super deluxe package includes vinyl, the 30-minute documentary DVD and a 50-page collector’s book with photos from the Exile era.
Will the super deluxe package contain the CD??????????????????????????? |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Gazza on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:39pm
HOLY ERECT NIPPLES!
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by Pdog on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:54pm Gazza wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 8:39pm:
stiff cocks, moist vaginas and hard nipples!!! |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by LadyJane on Feb 25th, 2010 at 9:26pm
FINALLY.
This is encouraging news. STONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf2 :wtf1 :areyoufuckingserious :smilemick :boring |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by corgi37 on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:57am
How dumb not to include the dvd with the cd. I dont want the vinyls as well (and have to pay extra for it!).
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Title: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Deathgod on Feb 25th, 2010 at 10:30pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/exile-on-main-street-gets-10-new-tracks/story-e6frf7jx-1225834832276
Exile on Main Street gets 10 new tracks * From correspondents in Los Angeles * From: Reuters * February 26, 2010 3:18PM THE Rolling Stones, who have long resisted releasing archival material, will include 10 previously unheard songs in an upcoming reissue of Exile on Main Street. The original 1972 release, a sprawling two-disc set regarded by many observers as one of their greatest works, features such notable tracks as Tumbling Dice and Happy. It was recorded in the grim basement of a French villa once used by the Gestapo. Guitarist Keith Richards was consumed at the time by a heroin addiction and singer Mick Jagger was distracted by his new wife, Bianca. The reissue, due out in the United States on May 18 and a day earlier internationally through Vivendi's Universal Music Group, will be supplemented by new tracks with such titles as Plundered My Soul, Dancing in the Light, Following the River and Pass The Wine. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. While the Stones have been widely bootlegged, the four disclosed titles appeared to be unknown to collectors. Alternate versions of the album tracks Soul Survivor and Loving Cup will also be included. A publicist said she did not have information on the other titles. Jagger told Rolling Stone magazine that he and Richards overdubbed percussion and guitar, respectively, on some of the bonus tracks. They oversaw the project with producer Don Was, who has worked with the band for 15 years. The singer also wrote fresh lyrics for Following the River. Jagger has been reluctant to open the band's vaults because he views the veteran British band that dates back to 1962 as a contemporary rather than a nostalgia act. Peers such as Bob Dylan and David Bowie, as well as thriving younger acts like U2, have been less resistant to the idea of dusting off outtakes and other rarities. The reissue will also be complemented by a made-for-TV documentary, Stones in Exile, which features rare archival film footage and photos as well as fresh interviews. The album will be available in three configurations: the original 18-track release; an edition with the bonus tracks; and a package that also includes a vinyl version, a different 30-minute documentary DVD and a book. :aimama :aimama :aimama :aimama |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Ian Billen on Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:27pm
I just saw this at Reuters! **Quite, quite interesting. Especially at the fact Mick and Keith actually added instruments and vocals to a few of these! Now that's really somethin. Should be interesting.
It's said that even Stones bootleg collectors were not aware of some of these tunes. Anyone here know of these tracks besides concerning the news of the re-issue? I never heard of em? *I will say this....It looks look they are not planning on disappointing us with all re-hash and nothing really different for them to do, in this very special edition/re-release of Exile. I am eagerly awaiting these. I don't know which one I'll buy though? Ian |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by platter on Feb 26th, 2010 at 12:34am
10 new unheard songs....nice
everybody say ow :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Teiz on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:06am
The Stones confirmed it on their site. Great. Now let's keep our fingers crossed for more deluxe editions...
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by corgi37 on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:00am
So 2 doco's will be around! Friggin cool. And even cooler that we get it before America.
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 6:42am
New issue of UNCUT which has just popped through my letterbox has a 10-page 'Exile' feature (plus Keith on the cover). Should be in the shops in a couple of days. No track listing or review as yet, but it contains interviews with Mick, Keith, Charlie, Bill, Mick Taylor and Marshall Chess. Mick and Keith, just for a change, aren't exactly singing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to their recollections of making the album.
Mick describes the new re-issue as follows : "The cheap package is just 'Exile'. The mid-price package has extra tracks. And the very expensive, lovely, not-all-that-expensive-really package has got a lot of other nice things in it. You'll probably get a T-shirt. You'll get video material. Bits of 'Cocksucker Blues', bits of a new documentary and bits of 'Ladies & Gentlemen', which is the tour we did in 1972. " ..and as for future projects in a similar vein, such as 'Sticky Fingers' ? "Let's see how well this one does, shall we? If it does shit, I'm not going through all this again...". Oh, and one more interesting little titbit - when preparing this release last year, the Stones had looked into the possibility of a live event to tie in with it. Universal suggested they perform the album as an 18-song concert, but Mick eventually rejected the idea as impractical. (which Charlie thinks was a shame) |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 6:48am Ian Billen wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:27pm:
Been discussed at some length in another thread on this topic, Ian The only songs I've read about so far whose titles had previously been even known were 'Sophia Loren' and 'Dancing In The Light'. 'Sophia Loren' has never been circulated, and the only version of 'Dancing In The Light' that circulated was an instrumental . This version has a Jagger vocal. Maybe 'Pass The Wine' and 'Sophia Loren' are the same song. Mick was asked about the latter in an Italian Rolling Stone interview a few weeks ago and hinted that 'Sophia Loren' may not end up being the title the song gets released under. Not sure how crazy I am about 2009 vocals being added to 1971 recordings because Mick (like anyone else) doesn't sound like he did 38 years ago, but the impression I've got for a while is that any embellishments are quite minor. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:01am A couple of awful factual errors in this article from the 'Hollywood Reporter' in showbiz411.com, but you should be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff and dig out what's relevant.... ROLLING STONES LONG-BANNED FILM IS COMING (KINDA) by Roger Friedman Fans of the Rolling Stones know all about a little known underground film that could not be released in the early 1970s. It was called “Cocksucker Blues.” It was made around the time of he recording of “Exile on Main Street” in 1971 and it contained some racy, racy stuff. (Considering what we see on YouTube and from Paris Hilton, however, it may seem tame now!) Well now: Ten minutes of “CB” are being included officially in a 30-minute documentary that the Stones will release in May. The other 20 minutes comprise 10 minutes of a film that was released but few saw called “Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones” (out of print and unavailable since 1974) and 10 more minutes of a new full-length doc called “Stones in Exile,” made by director Stephen Kijack. That latter title will also be released as a full-length doc at the same time in a format still to be determined. And all of this comes along with a new full-length version of the album “Exile on Main Street,” which will now have 10 extra tracks in addition to “Tumbling Dice,” “Happy,” “Sister Morphine” and all the classic songs we already know from the original. “Exile” comes from the Stones’ most fertile period, right after “Sticky Fingers” a year before. The Stones had just signed with Ahmet Ertegun and Atlantic Records, escaping from their old contract with Allen Klein and Decca and London Records. Mick had just married Bianca, and their world was on fire. Oh to have been a fly on the wall from that period! It’s hoped that “Stones in Exile” will provide that feeling. And maybe there will be new unexpurgated full-length versions of “CB” on the black market (do they still call it that? or is it eBay?). Anyway, I saw it way back in 1981, on something called a Betamax, and it proved the Stones were the Greatest rock ‘n’ roll Band in the world — for many reasons! |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by LadyJane on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:09am
"Oh, and one more interesting little titbit - when preparing this release last year, the Stones had looked into the possibility of a live event to tie in with it. Universal suggested they perform the album as an 18-song concert, but Mick eventually rejected the idea as impractical. (which Charlie think it's a shame)"
Which means IF we get another Tour, look for the glitz and glamour, ie $$$$. Don't ya have enough money Jagger? Will the words BAND LEGACY ever EVER mean a damn thing to you???? >:( >:( LJ. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:17am
To be fair, that didn't appear to be the reason. More to do with too many of the songs being too problematic to 'perform' live, something which Charlie acknowledges himself.
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by LadyJane on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:21am Gazza wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Yeah...I know. It just would/could have been really amazing!!! Dare to dream........ |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:28am
The fact that they even considered doing a one off event is a good sign, though - because as a live band they dont exist beyond the confines of a mega tour.
When you think about it, only four times since Hyde Park in July '69 have the Stones got together to perform when they weren't together for a tour Knebworth festival 1976 - two months after their Euro tour ended El Mocambo 1977 - two shows taped for a live album (would have been five, only Keith's late arrival and susequent arrest ate into the rehearsal time) CNIB Concerts 1979 - two 45-minute sets, following the performances by The New Barbarians. 100 Club 1986 - Stu's memorial gig where they played a set entirely consisting of cover versions. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Pdog on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:35am
I have an erection, lasting more than 4 hours!
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:38am
From [www.therockradio.com]
Rolling Stones' Exile On Main Street reissue to feature 10 new tracks Details are finally emerging on the deluxe reissue of the Rolling Stones' 1972 double album Exile On Main Street due out on May 18th. Rolling Stone reported that the package will feature "a deluxe CD edition with the 10 bonus tracks. The super deluxe package includes vinyl, the 30-minute documentary DVD and a 50-page collector's book with photos from the Exile era." The documentary Stones In Exile "tracks the making of Exile" -- which may mean that actual footage of the band's legendary basement studio Nellcote, Keith Richards' chateau on the French Riviera, actually exists. After watching the new doc, Richards joked: "I must not have noticed all the cameramen while I was making the record. I was amazed at how much footage they actually found." The film will also incorporate footage from 1974's concert film Ladies And Gentlemen. . . The Rolling Stones -- which features the Stones live in concert in 1972, along with portions of the band's still-unreleased @#$%&'s Blues tour documentary from that same year. The reissue will feature four previously unheard of Stones tracks: "Plundered My Soul," "Dancing In The Light," "Following The River," and "Pass The Wine." A Stones insider told The Daily Mail, "'Plunder My Soul' is a classic authentic blues riff with an unmistakable Keith lick and abstract lyrics from Mick (Jagger), while 'Following The River' is a classic ballad in the tradition of Wild Horses.'" Jagger recently wrote and sang new lyrics for "Following The River." Longtime Stones producer Don Was supervised the entire project with Jagger and Richards. The collection will also feature alternate versions of both "Soul Survivor" and "Loving Cup." Jagger talked about the "missing" tracks, saying, "I went back in the archives and dug out a load of things. I added some percussion and some vocals. Keith put guitar on one or two." Richards said that he was hesitant to tamper with history: "I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were. I didn't want to interfere with the Bible, you know. They still had that great basement sound." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:49am
To make things easier for everyone, I've merged the three threads that have been started on this reissue in the last 48 hours into one.
Hope MelBelli, Lefty & Deathgod don't mind - but thanks to all of you for the info. Anything on the Exile reissue and the Stones reissues in general that was on the board prior to 22nd February can be found on this thread : http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1239852911/150#150 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:59am
To sum up the info so far, we appear to have ten unreleased songs (Don Was told someone just two weeks ago that it was eleven...so maybe one was dropped)
The following titles have now been mentioned : Soul Survivor - alternate take, supposedly with Keith on vocals Loving Cup - early alternate take, probably from 1969 Dancing in The Light - Vocal version, as opposed to the instrumental which circulated previously Aladdin Story - as above I Ain't Signifying - possibly a different version to the previously bootlegged take. Plunder(or Plundered) My Soul Following The River Scarlet Pass The Wine Sophia Loren - this may end up being released under another title, possibly one of those listed above |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:52am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ade on Feb 26th, 2010 at 9:03am
it's a good read,this month, Gazza - highly recommended :willya
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by RubyLyn on Feb 26th, 2010 at 9:31am
The Rolling Stones unearth four 'lost' recordings from Exile On Main St sessions
They took so many drugs in the 60s and 70s it’s perhaps not surprising they mislaid some of their recordings. Nearly 40 years after making their legendary album Exile on Main St., the Rolling Stones have found four tracks originally planned for the record. The songs - which have never been aired and were unknown to Stones aficionados - were discovered after Mick Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards listened again to the original master copies of the sessions for the 1972 rock and roll classic. The newly-discovered tracks are called Plundered My Soul, Dancing In The Light, Following The River and Pass The Win. An insider who has heard two of the tracks said: ‘Plunder My Soul is a classic authentic blues riff with an unmistakable Keith lick and abstract lyrics from Mick, while Following The River is a classic ballad in the tradition of Wild Horses.’ Jagger and Richards found the songs when they were asked by their record company, Universal Music Group, to listen to the tapes again because of plans to reissue the record. Jagger and Richards found the songs when they were asked by their record company, Universal Music Group, to listen to the tapes again because of plans to reissue the record. Initially, the two stars believed they had used all the songs on the album. But when they went back into the basement of the band’s offices in London, they discovered the four songs. Sir Mick, 66, revealed: ‘I went back in the archives and dug out a load of things. I added some percussion and some vocals. Keith put guitar on one or two.’ Richards, 66, added: ‘I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were. I didn’t want to interfere with the Bible, you know. ‘They still had that great basement sound.’ The band recorded some of the songs in an improvised studio beneath Nellcote, Richards’ chateau on the French Riviera, as well as in Los Angeles and London-The length of the recording period - from 1968 to 1972 - and the various locations is also believed to be one of the reasons why the tracks disappeared. Ironically, on its release, the album initially received a lukewarm response from critics, but it still went to number one on both sides of the Atlantic. It is now regarded as a masterpiece. The Stones are to re-release the album with ten bonus tracks - of which four are the newly discovered songs. It will come out on May 17 and will coincide with a documentary, Stones In Exile, which has used archive footage to chronicle the making of the record. Old masters: The songs were discovered after Mick Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards listened again to the original master copies of the recording sessions I've recieved this just today, but is alike Gazza's post |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:09am
Well interesting that they considered a one off to promote this. Maybe if they actually rehearsed they might be able to pull it off. :willya :willya
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:14am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:09am:
they might still change their minds... many factors at stake, so everyone needs to be able to be on boards to make it work... this would bring JB and Mick Taylor back... If they can't do it, I don't want them to force it... as dumb as we say the decisions are sometimes... with tihs, they know it has to be done properly, or why bother, it would look stupid on too many levels... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:26am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:09am:
They always rehearse. A full performance of 'Exile' would be no exception... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:28am left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:26am:
Yeah they always rehearse. That's why we get the same 15 songs every tour. :boring |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by rogerriffin on Feb 26th, 2010 at 12:48pm
Tracklisting:
Disc One 1. Rocks Off 2. Rip This Joint 3. Shake Your Hips 4. Casino Boogie 5. Tumbling Dice 6. Sweet Virginia 7. Torn And Frayed 8. Sweet Black Angel 9. Loving Cup 10. Happy 11. Turd On The Run 12. Ventilator Blues 13. I Just Want To See His Face 14. Let It Loose 15. All Down The Line 16. Stop Breaking Down 17. Shine A Light 18. Soul Survivor Bonus Disc TBC - 10 tracks originally recorded during the Exile era including 'Plundered My Soul', 'Dancing in the Light', 'Following the River' and 'Pass The Wine' plus alternate versions of 'Soul Survivor' and 'Loving Cup'. Double Vinyl Disc One (Side 1) 1. Rocks Off 2. Rip This Joint 3. Shake Your Hips 4. Casino Boogie 5. Tumbling Dice Disc One (Side 2) 1. Sweet Virginia 2. Torn And Frayed 3. Sweet Black Angel 4. Loving Cup Disc Two (Side 1) 1. Happy 2. Turd On The Run 3. Ventilator Blues 4. I Just Want To See His Face 5. Let It Loose Disc Two (Side 2) 1. All Down The Line 2. Stop Breaking Down 3. Shine A Light 4. Soul Survivor DVD - Stones in Exile - Cocksucker Blues - Ladies and Gentlemen… the Rolling Stones |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 26th, 2010 at 12:51pm http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0120a8d53619970b-600wi Photo of the Rolling Stones in 1972. Credit: Norman Seeff / Universal Music Enterprises The documentary, “Stones in Exile,” will air on the USA Network in the U.S. and on the BBC in the United Kingdom. It is directed by Stephen Kijak, who also directed “Scott Walker: 30 Century Man.” An air date has not been set. latimes.com |
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Title: Re: RS.com: Unearthed Rolling Stones Tracks ... Post by polytoxic on Feb 26th, 2010 at 1:33pm gimmekeef wrote on Feb 25th, 2010 at 4:11pm:
When I first heard it, I got this far: I only get my rocks off when i"m dreaming Roll this Joint, gonna get down low Shake Your Hips, baby Wounded lover, got no time on hand You've got to roll me Got to scrape the shit right off your shoes As long as the guitar plays The judge is gonna judge her for all that she is worth Oh, what a beautiful buzz Baby won't you keep me happy I've lost a lot of love over you Feel like murder in the first degree I don't want to talk about Jesus, I just wanna see his face I ain't in love, I ain't in luck Won't ya be my little baby for a while That shit is gonna bust your brains out baby Make every song your favourite tune It's gonna be the death of me It's been my top album ever since. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Brainbell Jangler on Feb 26th, 2010 at 2:42pm Gazza wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:17am:
If Phish can pull it off, why can't the Stones? :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:36pm
Don Was and new lyrics :'( :-/ :-[ ::) :-? :o :( :(
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Pdog on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:39pm Brainbell Jangler wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 2:42pm:
The Stones since 89, have been a recreation of studio version type of live band, which Phish and jam bands are far from... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:49pm
why are 10 songs deemed unworthy of inclusion on the album suddenly a good idea?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:08pm Some Guy wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:49pm:
Because it's better than 10 brand new songs they can come up with now? :-? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:09pm Some Guy wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:49pm:
Look you're going to like this so buck up and get on board........lol |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:11pm gimmekeef wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:09pm:
I'm in! |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Brainbell Jangler on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:22pm Pdog wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:39pm:
True dat, but Phish performed Exile in its entirety live last New Years Eve. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Pdog on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:46pm Brainbell Jangler wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:22pm:
I'm not a jam band fan, so asking if they did it well is subjective... and then to specualte on if The Stones could pull it off... it's like comparing pink floyd doing DSOTM live back in the day, and what Roger Waters does today... The music is def. done technically better, but as fans, is that what we want, but nowadays it is the standard of how The Stones play live... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:52pm Some Guy wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:49pm:
Here is why. You post on the greatest message board devoted to the World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band. The upcoming release signals a watershed moment in Rolling Stones history. New recordings will be made available from the all time classic Rolling Stones lp. Video documentary towards the recording of the lp & live concert footage from the greatest tour ever by the Rolling Stones will be released for the first time commercially. What is not to rejoice over these facts? You are here as part of the cheering section, as well as a valid participant of same. I would ask that you act like you have been here before. Thank you for your expected cooperation & support. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 26th, 2010 at 5:00pm Nellcote wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:52pm:
thanks Dawg, I'm nervous. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 26th, 2010 at 5:11pm Pdog wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 4:46pm:
They do this pretty well, non? I'm not a Phish fan, but I thought their 'EOMS' set last Halloween was inspired. |
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Title: Re: Exile news from Oz newspaper site Post by Brainbell Jangler on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:25pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 5:11pm:
I meant Halloween, not New Years. :aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:43pm
Badlands shop in the UK are now taking pre-orders for this.
It can be ordered here - http://www.badlands.co.uk/CDs%20and%20DVDs/New%20and%20Forthcoming/?sck=24324836 Here's today's e-mail : The Greatest Rock N Roll Band In The World THE ROLLING STONES EXILE ON MAIN ST One of the greatest albums of all time and in many people's eyes the Stones best ever will be reissued on May 17 featuring a host of bonus tracks. The re-release comes in four formats: SUPER DELUXE BOX SET £99.99 Includes 2CD set, 2LP set, DVD, and a 64 page cloth bound book featuring the rare and acclaimed Dominique Tarle & Ethan Russell photographs, Exile tour photographs, first time published memorabilia collection and the story of Exile. DELUXE 2CD SET £14.99 Includes 2 CDs. Disc 1 is the original 18 track masterpiece, Disc 2 features 10 tracks originally recorded during the Exile era and only recently discovered while working on the reissue project. The unearthed tracks which include such titles as "Plundered My Soul," "Dancing in the Light," "Following the River" and "Pass The Wine" have undergone a unique evolution, while staying true to the essence of the 1972 album. Alternate versions of "Soul Survivor" and "Loving Cup" also are a part of the Exile bonus materials. 2LP HEAVYWEIGHT VINYL £14.99 Featuring the original 18 tracks (Rocks Off/ Rip This Joint/ Hip Shake/ Casino Boogie/ Tumbling Dice/ Sweet Virginia/ Torn & Frayed/ Sweet Black Angel/ Loving Cup/ Happy/ Turd On The Run/ Ventilator Blues/ Just Wanna See His Face/ Let It Loose/ All Down The Line/ Stop Breaking Down/ Shine A Light/ Soul Survivor) 1CD EDITION £11.99 Featuring the original 18 tracks (Rocks Off/ Rip This Joint/ Hip Shake/ Casino Boogie/ Tumbling Dice/ Sweet Virginia/ Torn & Frayed/ Sweet Black Angel/ Loving Cup/ Happy/ Turd On The Run/ Ventilator Blues/ Just Wanna See His Face/ Let It Loose/ All Down The Line/ Stop Breaking Down/ Shine A Light/ Soul Survivor) Universal Music Group is pleased to announce the re-release of The Rolling Stones' album Exile on Main Street with an additional 10 never-before-heard tracks. Regarded as one of the greatest albums in rock 'n' roll history and one of the most defining of the Stones' catalogue, Exile will be available May 17, 2010, in the U.K. and May 18, 2010, in the US. Upon its release more than three decades ago, Exile on Main Street innovatively wove varying musical genres, instruments and even artists into a compelling rhythmic masterpiece. This new compilation features 10 tracks originally recorded during the Exile era and only recently discovered while working on the reissue project. The unearthed tracks which include such titles as "Plundered My Soul," "Dancing in the Light," "Following the River" and "Pass The Wine" have undergone a unique evolution, while staying true to the essence of the 1972 album. Alternate versions of "Soul Survivor" and "Loving Cup" also are a part of the Exile bonus materials. As a complement to the release of Exile on Main Street, a documentary, "Stones in Exile," has just been completed for fans to view on US Network television and through BBC Worldwide internationally. The documentary features rare, never-before-seen archival film, photos and interviews as well as new conversations with the band and the artists they influence. Produced by Oscar -winning filmmaker John Battsek and directed by Stephen Kijak, who is known for award-winning work on Cinemania, and Scott Walker: 30 Century Man, "Stones in Exile" offers an uncommon glimpse into the lives of the band as they created one of the greatest albums of all time. The original 18-track double-album was recorded in various stages at multiple locations, including Olympic Studios in London, Keith Richard's mansion Nellcote in France, and in Los Angeles where the literal "Main Street" influenced the album title. These atypical circumstances surrounding the recording process greatly affected the album's outcome which was highly reflective and influenced by the sociopolitical turbulence that marked the late `60s and early `70s. The Stones nixed the influences of a flower-child era and directed their creative process with the edgier, excessive, "more is more" approach of the `70s. Exile reveals a sprawling mix of genres with undertones of blues, country, R&B and gospel mixed with lyrics that fervently demand for release and liberation. The album pulled together an electric array of talent including Dr. John, the late Billy Preston and pianist Nicky Hopkins. Guitarist Mick Taylor, who replaced Brian Jones in the band shortly before Jones died in 1969, is a magnificent blues player who brought an intensity and elegance to these epic tracks. At times, these musicians and others lived on the recording studio premises with the band creating an extremely open and creative collaboration for the album. "The album's riveting portrait of artists pushed - by the times, by themselves - to the very limits of their creativity has provided inspiration to every musical generation that has come along since Exile was released in 1972," said author Anthony DeCurtis. "Every song on Exile on Main Street is elevated by its relationship to the music that comes before and after it. The album's irresistible power is unlikely to diminish any time soon." Exile on Main Street will be available in two CD formats: the original 18 track release; a deluxe CD edition with the 10 special bonus tracks; and a super deluxe package that also includes vinyl, a 30-minute documentary DVD with footage from Cocksucker Blues, Ladies and Gentlemen... the Rolling Stones and Stones in Exile, and a 50-page collector's book with photos from the Exile era. The 10 unreleased tracks were produced by Jimmy Miller, The Glimmer Twins and Don Was. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:52pm 150 Amurkin dollars for the Super Deluxe edition... :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:54pm
I want to know all the bonus tracks... ugh! i'm so impatient... will the single mix of all down the line make it?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:01pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:52pm:
I'd be surprised if its that much. CDs in the UK are significantly more expensive than they are in the US. I would guess $100 would be closer to the mark. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:04pm Pdog wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 7:54pm:
Doesnt look like it, which is a pity because I'm sure there's room. Like I said on the previous page, we've now seen ten different titles mentioned at some point over the last few weeks in various interviews, reports & press releases, so if it's those ten, then the songs would be : Soul Survivor - alternate take, supposedly with Keith on vocals Loving Cup - early alternate take, probably from 1969 Dancing in The Light - Vocal version, as opposed to the instrumental which circulated previously Aladdin Story - as above I Ain't Signifying - possibly a different version to the previously bootlegged take. Plundered My Soul Following The River Scarlet Pass The Wine Sophia Loren - Mick hinted this may end up being released under another title, so it could possibly be one of those listed above. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:25pm Gazza wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:01pm:
Still a nice chunk of change. 'Ya-Ya's' deluxe was half that much. The recent Petty 'Live Anthology' deluxe edition cost 100 bucks - it included 5 CD's, 2 DVD's, 1 vinyl album, a book, some tchochtkes from previous tours, and a killer Blu-Ray disc with all 62 tracks in high resolution stereo/5.1 surround sound... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:22pm I'll take one Super Deluxe, please. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on Feb 27th, 2010 at 4:20am
Many, many, many an evening will be spent with this treasure. The more I think about this release, the more woozy I get. I cannot wait.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by MRD8 on Feb 27th, 2010 at 6:55am
The great part for me is that all of the Super Deluxe edition(except for the book) will be up on the torrent sites a week or two before it hits the stores!:)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by platter on Feb 27th, 2010 at 7:17am
i know records are making a bit of a come back, but they should offer an edition with the 2 cds, the dvd and the booklet. i think this package would sell like hot cakes. most people don't care for records anymore, i think. anyway, it sounds good
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Feb 27th, 2010 at 7:43am
Oh, sod it! I'm just gonna buy me the Super-Deluxe Edition! This all sounds just too good to miss out on! :D
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Feb 27th, 2010 at 7:57am
will i break down, and finally buy a turntable?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:34am left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:25pm:
Fair point! I guess the Super Deluxe should be known as the 'Doing It For The Rich Kids' version. the Ya Yas box ended up being sold for quite a bit less than what the price was when they started taking pre-orders. Maybe as much as 15-20%. I'd expect to be able to get this release online around the time it comes out for less than £100. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by MRD8 on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:49am
I bought Neil Young's Archives Volume One blu-ray box for $299.00 and Tom Petty's afor mentioned box from Best Buy for a hundred bucks so I'm sure it'll be worth it to own this one as a collectors item!:)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:50am Gazza wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:34am:
amazons got ya ya's fer 39.99 now |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:52am
How to take Mick's line about waiting to see how this reissue sells before considering any more archival releases?
On the hand, it's frustrating that he's such a "presentist" and doesn't seem to care a whole lot about tending to the band's history and legacy, making sure it's not only preserved (which, judging from the "Being Mick" doc, he's definitely involved in), but *presented* well. On the other, it's kind of cool that he's so unsentimental about it all. Unlike, say, Bruce (God love him), Mick is near useless at self-criticism and doesn't deify himself or the band — or even art itself. He really is a piece of work: a guy who hung with *the* cutting-edge innovators of his time (not just in music, but film, theater, visual arts); who wrote freaking "Sympathy for the Devil"!; who influenced countless rock frontmen — this same guy genuinely feels like ... "Meh. Show business." It's uncanny, really. Also uniquely British. Thoughts? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:57am Steel Wheels wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 4:20am:
Yeah I feel the same way too! I will shell out the necessary dollars as soon as it's released, same day I'll be in whatever store carries it. Borders and Best Buy had the Ya Ya's so I guess they might be getting this too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:10am Mel Belli wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:52am:
super-ego... with some personal inddiference to the work he's done past... which is what enables him to have this huge ego... very british, but not totally unique. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by lotsajizz on Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:30pm
nice obervations Mel! :smilebrian
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:40pm Pdog wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 7:57am:
Do it! Nothing beats the sound you get from vinyl, and it's becoming apparent that records are longer-lasting than CDs. Besides, you get bigger and better extras when you buy a record - and you can actually read the liner notes (and lyric sheets, if there are any). My most cherished birthday gift from last year was a vinyl copy I received of Dylan's "Together Through Life." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:49pm
Another interesting tidbit by Mick from the Uncut interview may explain why 'Good Time Women' never made the cut :
"Not all the lyrics (on the album) were written in a Nellcote environment. That doesnt mean they're not about Nellcote. But a lot of them were written later in LA and they dont reflect the Nellcote thing at all. A lot of them were about going on the road, which was actually going to happen next. With "Tumbling Dice", there's an outtake I found which has completely different lyrics. It wasnt until we got to LA that I rewrote them. The original lyrics were crap. " On 'Casino Boogie''s lyrics - Keith - 'I dont know what they mean, and nor does he. And if he does, I want the answer in writing' Mick - 'That song was done in cut-ups. Its in the style of William Burroughs, and so on. 'Million dollar sad' doesnt mean anything, We did it in LA in the the studio. We just wrote phrases on bits of paper and cut them up. This is the conceit. The Burroughs style. And then you just throw them into a hat, pick them out and assemble them into verses. We did it for one number, but it worked. We probably did it 'cos we couldnt think of anything to write'. 'Soul Survivor' - 'youve got a cut throat crew, I'm gonna sink under you/Youre gonna be the death of me'. There's a theory you wrote that about Keith? Mick - Gawd. I dont think so. No, thats not about Keith at all. 'Soul Survivor'? I dont even know if I wrote that. It sounds like one of Keith's.(Keith, for his part, claims that the only songs he wrote lyrics for were 'Happy' and 'Torn & Frayed') |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Feb 27th, 2010 at 1:02pm
Gee..is it May 18th yet?????????????????????????????
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 27th, 2010 at 1:29pm
On 'Casino Boogie''s lyrics -
Keith - 'I dont know what they mean, and nor does he. And if he does, I want the answer in writing' Mick - 'That song was done in cut-ups. Its in the style of William Burroughs, and so on. 'Million dollar sad' doesnt mean anything, We did it in LA in the the studio. We just wrote phrases on bits of paper and cut them up. This is the conceit. The Burroughs style. And then you just throw them into a hat, pick them out and assemble them into verses. We did it for one number, but it worked. We probably did it 'cos we couldnt think of anything to write'. But the most important million dollar (six pages on iorr) question is? What is the actual line? Kissing Cunt in Cannes? Or Kissing Cut in Cannes? Do you think they actually know....or remember? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Feb 27th, 2010 at 3:52pm GotToRollMe wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
I have two beautiful pieces of stones vinyl... some girls sits up high for all to see... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:04am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 1:29pm:
It's 'cunt'. Who in the their right mind kisses a 'cut' ? In the text of the interview, they're specifically asked about that line |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:13am
Another snippet from the interview seems to suggest that for some reason Mick is being a bit tight-lipped about just how much new work WAS done on some of the leftovers. It could be more than what we'd hoped would have been necessary..and that the bonus disc may be a bit more of a 'Tattoo You'like project than an Exile one.
UNCUT gets to hear three songs that Jagger has unearthed ("Following The River", "Plunder My Soul" and "Sophia Loren"). However they sound suspiciously smooth for 'Exile' outtakes, and there's no mention of the first two in any Stones sessionography. It's hard to get a straight answer about where they originate. Keith assures me that they were recorded at Nellcote, but is vague. Charlie Watts explains that they only existed as instrumentals, so Jagger's vocals (and lyrics) are new. Jagger refuses to discuss when his vocals were added. "I can't tell you. It doesn't really matter, in a way", he smiles tightly. "As long as they sound good". Debates are sure to rage when 'Exile' is reissued in May. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:38am Mick Taylor was rumored to have done some overdubs. Any mention of that in the article? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Feb 28th, 2010 at 11:05am
So we get a 30 min "making of" DVD and no Ladies and Gentlemen, what a waste
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 28th, 2010 at 11:51am left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:38am:
No. Wasnt mentioned. Taylor's only quote in the article is on the subject of moving to France. He didnt feel that it should affect him as (being new to the band) he had no need to be a tax exile, but he basically had to go along with it as the rest of the band were doing the same. Bill & Charlie, having kids at school, didnt want to move either. Its a very good feature, but when you go to the trouble of interviewing all five band members from that period (plus Marshall Chess), not using more of those interviews is a bit of an opportunity wasted. There's only a couple of quotes from Bill as well. I'd like to think that more of these interviews will crop up at some point. Mick's interview was done at the Dorchester Hotel in London, and Keith's was done at the Mercer Hotel in SoHo in New York in December. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by macdaddy on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:03pm
Is this in uncut magazine? What is on the cover (so I can go an look for it)? Tia (thx in advance)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:16pm New issue of Uncut, cover date April 2010. Issue 155. Just out now in the UK (being a subscriber, we get them a couple of days before theyre in the shops). I'd imagine it'll be a little while longer until its available in the USA. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:23pm My local bookstore hasn't even gotten the March issue yet... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:49pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I had a good smoke shop in Sf that got it pretty quick, now I'm at the mercy of B&N and Boarders in aTx, unless I want to go to Waterloo Records... I think they probably would carry it, but doubt they'd get it any sooner anyway... at least at the chain stores I can avoid the hipster douchbags... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:58pm Gazza wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:16pm:
Oh hell yeah. I'm getting that in my hot little hands tomorrow! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Feb 28th, 2010 at 1:01pm
PLEASE don't forget to get an extra for me!!!
I'll be forever grateful. No clue where to look for a copy here. Thanks M. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:21pm gimmekeef wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 1:02pm:
Early reports are that lines are forming at Mall of Ga Best Buy |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:23pm Gazza wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:13am:
G' what do you mean?? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:29pm Some Guy wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:23pm:
Initial reports suggested that any 2009 overdubs were going to be pretty minimal and somewhat insignificant. 'Uncut's analysis of the three songs they heard, Charlie's subsequent comments and Mick's coyness about what was recorded last year would indicate otherwise. Could end up being more of a 'Tattoo You Part II' type project than a bonafide 'Exile Outtakes' one, if thats the case. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:33pm Gazza wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:29pm:
I will be in seclusion May 18th. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Feb 28th, 2010 at 6:07pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 8:25pm:
$119.99 for the 'Exile' deluxe edition on Best Buy. Of course that could come down between now and May 18th. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=983438C10E78C2B120917DC59A979EC9.bbolsp-app03-37?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-7423327104196368397&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Exile+On+main+Street&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 $119.99 = £79.05. Its advertised here for £99.99. So the US price is 20% cheaper than it is in the UK. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Feb 28th, 2010 at 6:35pm Gazza wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 6:07pm:
whoa 120 bucks bend over stones fans :wtf2 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Feb 28th, 2010 at 6:43pm If it's any consolation, Best Buy always has new releases on sale the week they come out. So put a Franklin aside for May 18th... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:25pm LadyJane wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 1:01pm:
Try Spiral Scratch on Delaware Ave...can't recall exact addy... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by FotiniD on Mar 1st, 2010 at 8:07am
Just read this on the RS Facebook page:
Want to be a part of our ‘Exile on Main Street Team’? Create your own publicity stunt in support of ‘Exile’ and post your pictures and video clips on this page! Check out this example! The Top 20 ‘stunts’ will be chosen and a winner picked by the band! http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=14389&id=8305888286&saved#!/photo.php?pid=3450162&id=8305888286 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:13am FotiniD wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 8:07am:
I've just scraped some shit off my shoes and I'm now booking a hotel room in Cannes!! Do I win? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:08am Gazza wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:13am:
you need to be kissing a cunt.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 1st, 2010 at 1:06pm
Its ok. I'm sharing the room in Cannes with Jon Bon Jovi.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on Mar 1st, 2010 at 1:18pm
With many of its songs being from Exile, here are some ideas in this vinyl:
I wouldn't try to do something so obscure as Casino Boogie - knowing Mick, he may not remember which album it's from ::) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 1st, 2010 at 2:58pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 1st, 2010 at 4:34pm
So i guess this one will be graced with "fresh" lyrics and vocals from Mick....
The suggestions that Jagger wrote new lyrics and added new vocals, ala, Tattoo You, are upsetting me. I'm exited about the re-issue and the Exile re-visitation, but why not just leave it at that. If Jagger wants to write, then write new material. I'm a purist and this troubles me. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 1st, 2010 at 5:38pm Super Deluxe is listed for $98.99 at amazon.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on Mar 1st, 2010 at 6:57pm
Bring on the new songs. That's all I give a shit about. I too would like access to original master recordings without modern overdubs and lyrics, but I'm sure it's going to sound awesome. I'm looking at this like it's a little gift from the Rolling Stones.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:47pm
there are 2 threads on the same subject and I am confused
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:58pm Throwaway wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 1:18pm:
Great shit! :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:05pm GotToRollMe wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:58pm:
I have this vinyl - great recording! Interesting to hear Taylor on No Expectations, It's All Over Now, Route 66. His last mainland US show. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by FotiniD on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 2:32am Gazza wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 1:06pm:
:blankfriggingstare1 :blankfriggingstare1 :blankfriggingstare1 :blankfriggingstare1 The shock! ;D |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 6:15am Some Guy wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 2:58pm:
Thanks Some Guy! This reminds me of the Exile era perfectly! Winner! Yes! Cool! Sweet! Boogie! Is Stu on piano here, do you know? This is exciting! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 7:06am
As far as I know, it's Nicky Hopkins on that one. Supposedly it's from early 1970. Like many of the songs on Exile, its more of a Sticky Fingers leftover than anything.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 7:33am Bitch wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 6:15am:
what we do |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 7:41am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 5:38pm:
what is Dix? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Egon on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 7:43am Some Guy wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:47pm:
I don't even need 2 threads for that! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Egon on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 7:47am
Just got ya ya's..
I'm not the worlds biggest "Hifi / remaster/ DDD/super audio/ i've got an amp that cost more than my house" kinday guy, but the sound really is fantastic. So looking forward to hear Exile on a repaved main st! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 10:03am Some Guy wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 7:41am:
It's Dlx - Deluxe |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 10:33am
"Exile on a repaved Main Street"
nice.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 10:33am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 10:03am:
I'm a douche |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 5:38pm
Any one know if the alternate version (Keith vocals) of Soul Survivor is available on a circulating tape/boot?
Thanks everyone for posting the details for this terrific release. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 6:19pm Lazy Bones wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 5:38pm:
No. It isnt. They appear to have made the effort to exclude material thats previously been bootlegged. If those ten songs are the ones theyre including then the only doubts of any of them being previously bootlegged are the early (1969) version of 'Loving Cup' and 'I Aint Signifying'. My guess is that it'll maybe be an alternate take of both as they're quite clearly unfinished. 'Dancing in the Light' and 'Aladdin Story' have previously been bootlegged but only as instrumentals. These versions have vocals. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 8:11pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 10:33am:
in a super limited edition and remastered package!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 8:29pm Gazza wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 6:19pm:
Thanks, Gazza. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Riffhard on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 9:24pm
Sounds like the packaging of this beauty is going to follow that of the Ya Yas box. That being said, it'll be great! I can't wait for this one. While I'm a bit skeptical about some of Mick's over dubs, but I'll reserve judgement until I hear it. I'm sure that even with Mick's somewhat ambivalent attitude towards Exile they will do us all proud. I just hope that Mick didn't clean up the sound too much. The last thing that I want to hear is a "slick" Exile. Surely Keith will have had something to say about that.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 10:44pm Pdog wrote on Mar 2nd, 2010 at 8:11pm:
I'm in. :perverted |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 1:15am
One concern I have is that the tracks Jagger has added vocals to, will no longer sound like Exile outtakes, but the 2010 Stones, instead. Surely this defeats the object somewhat? This package is supposed celebration of all things ‘Exile’. This won’t be the case if we have a bunch of 60-somethings re-working 38-year-old recordings.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am
I fear GITD sounding tunes added to Exile.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 10:11am Some Guy wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am:
A reasonable fear, however for once I have hope. Jagger is ever the businessman, and as such, he knows the bread and butter of the Stones lies in their seventies sound, as evidenced by his setlist choices. I think he can pull it off with some studio trickery. I listened to Potted Shrimp last night and thought man, that would be good with vocals. Not sure if that will show up though. Alladin Story might become cheesy but we'll see. Even so, this will only apply to what appears to be three of the ten extras, so if they suck, just skip 'em and crank that remastered Loving Cup drunk version and I Ain't Lying/Signifyin'. What I'm dying to know is if the song we know as Fast Talking Slow Walking will appear. If Jagger can match that delivery I'm happy, I'm not expecting Rip This Joint. And don't forget, Sweet Black Angel is the Streets Of Love of Exile, so there's precedent. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 10:22am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 10:34am Honky Tonk Man wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 1:15am:
I just honestlly think there's very little in the way of finished songs that were left off Exile. After all, its a very long album for its time - a double - and its been established that most of the vocals on the finished album were done post-Nellcote in LA. So, there really would have been no need for them to finish, say, 25-30 songs when they had 18 which they probably chose - at a relatively late stage in the game - to release as a double LP rather than to whittle the best ones down to the regular 10-song single album format which would have been the norm at the time. Especially when they had deadlines to meet to get it out in time for a tour. Had they been doing this deluxe format with most other albums (ie Some Girls, Beggars Banquet etc), there probably would have been more finished songs, but with a double, its unlikely to be that many. You basically have four alternatives 1) Release the stuff thats been bootlegged already (only in better sound quality) and disappoint the sort of people who will be most excited at this type of release as they'll be complaining that they've already got it. 2) Release half completed scraps of songs just for the sake of filling up a CD even though its stuff that should have been left on the cutting room floor and doesn't warrant listening to more than once 3) Release a bonus disc which is a mixture of good quality completed songs and a few almost finished songs which needed some work done to make them releasable 4) Release nothing at all. To me, a combination of 1) and 3) would have been the most practical (I certainly wouldnt have complained at the inclusion of 'Hillside Blues' or 'Travellin Man'), but option 3), whilst its a bit flawed is certainly a better alternative than 2) or 4). As long as they're not fucking with the original album and its just being remastered like the other UMG reissues were. No remixes, no extra instruments or any of that bollocks. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 10:59am Gazza wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 10:34am:
Not too shabby to have 10 new songs from a (studio) recording session for a double album, seeing only 5 new live (Stones) tracks from the recent Ya-Ya's re-release... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:00pm
if we are going to bitch about what the songs sound like, lets wait til we hear them first...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:12pm
Positive sales will lead to a similiar Emotional Rescue project. That could be bigger than Star Wars...
could you even fathom that... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:13pm
Indeed. Especially as 'Emotional Rescue' was a better selling album!
Plenty of outtakes too!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:22pm Gazza wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:13pm:
Would this result in a He Man Emotional Rescue Society Outtakes Lovers Society? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:23pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:22pm:
HA! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:24pm Gazza wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 12:13pm:
It's coming! 10 unearthed, never heard ER songs. Oh, look what we found! It might tilt the earths axis and shorten days. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 2:38pm Honky Tonk Man wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 1:15am:
Ditto, Honky I'm a bit of a hard-ass about this. Exile to me is a time-capsule, encompassing a certain era. The drugs, the decadence, the relationships, the Americanization of the Stones, the everything! You cannot re-creat that and lets face it, Jagger just does not have the same vocal power or lyrical ingenuity that he had then. There was an urgency to the sound, lyrics, themes and a passion in the performances - they sounded like they were playing/running for their lives, from drugs, love, loneliness, hopelessness or whatever. How can Mick, now an English gentlemen living a life of seeming contentment - add to all this? I'd rather stick with the outtakes i have then have Jagger, 2010, put a polished spin on what he thinks "sounds good" - And Jagger, I don't think, realizes that he is not Mick Jagger, not that Mick Jagger. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 6:35am Stones return from 'Exile' Questions about The Rolling Stones' hidden gems By STEVE CHAGOLLAN The Rolling Stones at Hyde Park, 1969. When Universal Music Group announced last week that it was re-releasing the Rolling Stones' iconic 1972 double album "Exile on Main Street" with 10 never-before-heard bonus tracks from the period, many fans found themselves wondering, "Where did these songs come from, and why haven't we heard them before?" By all outward signs, the Stones' music has been one of the catalogs most assiduously strip-mined by both the various labels they've been associated with and by enterprising bootleggers who tout thousands of hours of the band's recorded and live work dating back to their formation in 1962. One bootleg site boasts eight CDs of material from the "Their Satanic Majesties Request" sessions alone. Don Was, the credited producer on the newly unearthed "Exile" tracks along with the late Jimmy Miller and the Glimmer Twins (the Stones' Keith Richards and Mick Jagger), told Daily Variety that he sifted through 200 hours of tape for the new bonus material, which will be heard when the package is released May 17 in the U.K. and May 18 Stateside. "I've been to the tape warehouse," Was said. "If you can picture the last scene of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark,' with this enormous room filled from floor to ceiling with (all these antiquities), that's what they have. "There's stuff that nobody's heard," he added. "The things that have slipped out on bootleg is just a fraction of what's available. They could do this with every album they've ever made if they wanted to." Was said nobody was more surprised than the Stones "that they had this extra stuff that was as close to the finish line as it turned out to be." The original 18-track double album -- made during a peak creative period for the band and the culmination of a string of masterpieces that began with "Beggars Banquet" and continued with "Let It Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" -- was recorded in various stages at multiple locations, including Olympic Studios in London, Keith Richard's Nellcote mansion in the south of France and Sunset Sound Recorders in Los Angeles, where the bulk of the mixing and overdubs were done. The "Exile" of the title pertains to the Stones having moved out of England due to the country's onerous tax laws and lingering legal matters traced to drug busts in their home country. It is considered a rock 'n' roll landmark, with blues, country, R&B and gospel thrown into the mix. Blues and slide guitar specialist Mick Taylor, who replaced Brian Jones in the band after he died in 1969, is considered a key part of the album's timeless appeal. "There's a unity to 'Exile' that makes a whole lot of sense -- this vision of American roots music reinterpreted by the Stones' eyes and ears," Was said. "And it holds because it's stayed current all these years." Jagger was reportedly critical of the album at the time of its release and was quoted in 2003 as saying the LP "has some of the worst mixes I've ever heard." Was said that he and the Stones (Jagger, Richards and, to a lesser extent, drummer Charlie Watts) decided to maintain the integrity of the original release. "The sound of 'Exile' is not only etched in stone, but it's become a part of the sonic vocabulary of recordmakers who followed," he explained. "You have to embrace what it is. "The guiding light came in a fax Keith sent to me early on. He said: 'You don't have to make it sound like 'Exile.' It already is 'Exile.' That's really what we tried to stick to throughout." Was described the bonus tracks, which include alternate versions of "Soul Survivor" and "Loving Cup," as either "extremely finished songs" or "finished but with a rawness." One track, "Following the River," consisted of just an instrumental on which Jagger subsequently wrote lyrics and supplied the vocals. But for the most part, Jagger and Richards' overdubs are "pretty minimal" and limited to a couple of songs. Accompanying the release is a 61-minute doc about, as director Stephen Kijak describes it, "why the Stones went into exile in France and about how they made this extraordinary album." Kijak culled his footage mainly from about 20 hours of outtakes from Robert Frank's infamous documentary of the Stones' 1972 tour, "Cocksucker Blues," as well as images from the lavish, limited release photo book by Dominique Tarlet called "Exile," which chronicled the recording sessions at Nellcote. "We let Robert Frank's aesthetic, and the album art itself (shot by Frank), lead it," explained Kijak. "So what you've got is a vibey mood piece that dips you right into the early '70s and doesn't let you out." The 18 tracks from "Exile" provide the doc's soundtrack, along with studio chatter from the "Exile" sessions as well as the more recent reissuing and remastering sessions. Kijak also says the film doesn't shy away from Richards' reported struggles with heroin at the time of the recordings. "You can't separate the drugs from the story," he explained. "The first thing that Anita Pallenberg (Richards' girlfriend at the time) said to us was "we were into drugs for breakfast, lunch and dinner." "End to end, the film is probably the most concentrated collection of rare, never-before-seen imagery on the Stones you've seen in a good long while," said Kijak. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118016021.html?categoryid=16&cs=1&ref=vertmusic&ref=ssp |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 6:41am
A 61-minute documentary now ? It was originally reported as 30 minutes. Plus, good that we're getting 'Cocksucker Blues' outtakes as opposed to just excerpts from the film itself.
And : "I've been to the tape warehouse," Was said. "If you can picture the last scene of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark,' with this enormous room filled from floor to ceiling with (all these antiquities), that's what they have. "There's stuff that nobody's heard," he added. "The things that have slipped out on bootleg is just a fraction of what's available. They could do this with every album they've ever made if they wanted to." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:05am wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Yeah, although the main gripe a lot of people seem to have is that the only way they can get the DVD is to buy the deluxe version. There's a delicious irony in Stones fans complaining about having to pay $100 just so they can get their hands on an 'exclusive' DVD that cant be found anywhere else. Havent we all been here before a couple of times? At least this time we'll actually GET the DVD when we stump up $100. :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:29am
This thing should be great. It will be interesting to see if it leaks to the torrent sites early or how soon the finished copies become available for free. Hopefully there will be a more extensive early review of the new tracks soon. Also hope Was was not embellishing when he said there is tons of unheard or unbooted stuff around. If thats true and you add in what we have as boots already then their productivity during those times is astounding considering the drug influence. Sadly that contrasts starkly with their productivity since.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:31am
Oh Gazza! Too funny! ;D
and are you SURE we will get the DVD in this package? we might just have to send away the coupon in the box and another $100 to obtain this rare gem...... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:42am PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:31am:
In the small print it says that the DVD hasnt actually been made yet and after you've complained about it by e-mail ten times, it will end up being sent to you just in time for the release of the next deluxe reissue in 2013 ("Some Girls"), and you'll be given a 'legacy' code where you can buy THAT deluxe reissue one day before everybody else....only to find that the DVD for THAT release doesnt exist either, and you have to go through the whole process again. Simples. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:46am
There's a Keith interview in the new issue of 'Rolling Stone' out in the US this week.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:49am
Are the names of the other songs official yet?
Is MT really involved? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:05am
Maybe there will be a pre release listening event like ABB. Remember voodoo I think was sharing snippets of mp3 he recorded and we all freaked for days! Man that was fun!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by macdaddy on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:08am
Encouraging stuff re: the vaults-maybe we will see more of this. How's about releasing some of the live stuff..? Like the 72 tour...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:09am gimmekeef wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:05am:
and then depression set in |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:20am
"End to end, the film is probably the most concentrated collection of rare, never-before-seen imagery on the Stones you've seen in a good long while," said Kijak.
insert Joey's happy kitten, here... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:23am Some Guy wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:49am:
Remind me who is MT again? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:26am
isn't there a contest? I would send in a picture of a guy walking thru traffic at a red light with a sign that says "need cash for the new Stones album".
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:28am Nellcote wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:23am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:51am Gazza wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:05am:
Ya know, I never reupped with the fan club after the initial offering on the Licks tour. Somehow I got the poster and DVD that were tied into the ABB membership renewals. Actually got two of those DVD's - the first one was just an empty tin. 'Midnight Rambler' in the torrential downpour in Bangalore is great... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 4th, 2010 at 9:25am
I don't know why everybody is concerned about the price of this. Just use all the money you saved up for the tour that's not happening. :thatwassmart
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 9:39am Some Guy wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:49am:
Well, I've seen 10 different titles mentioned so far in various articles and interviews, so that would appear to be 'em all. The new 'Rolling Stone' artidle however apparently indicates that 'Sophia Loren' was the working title for 'Pass The Wine' so those two may be one and the same. 'Good Time Women' has also now been mentioned. Some Guy wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 7:49am:
Yes. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Mar 4th, 2010 at 10:21am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:51am:
I got the poster but never the DVD. My tin was empty too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 10:43am
I had two memberships - one poster and two DVDs arrived together two years later, ironically the same week (late 2005) that the 2006 European shows were being announced. Having already bought fan club tickets for the MSG shows, I assumed one of the DVDs would have been the ABB one. Nope.
The DVDs contained bang up to date exclusive material (which had already been broadcast and therefore widely bootlegged)....from the Licks tour. Must have been about 15 minutes worth, plus a clip from '89 of them playing with John Lee Hooker. I rang Ultrastar in New York in July 2006 to enquire about the ABB tour DVD. As the tour had been going for almost a year by that point I figured it wasnt unreasonable to expect that some footage would have been available. The guy told me 'its actually being finished this weekend and will be sent out to everyone in a couple of weeks'. He even told me he had SEEN it! ::) Thats quite a fuckin' shit postal service they have in Brooklyn. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 10:47am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 8:51am:
:wow They really know how to string ya along and then completely rub it in! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 4th, 2010 at 11:27am Got my copy of UNCUT. Good stuff. Coupla interesting Keith quotes, who's never hesitant to say exactly what's on his mind. His candor may or may not be ascribed to the "brownish-gold, fizzy drink in his cup." The author notes "Whatever's in that cup, it packs a wallop. His eyes blur and refocus as he swallows." KR: "You've got to realise I wasn't considered to be any more outrageous than anybody else in the band," he says on the subject of his drug use. "At this time Mick was taking everything. Charlie Watts was hitting the brandy like a motherfucker. The least of our concerns was what we ingested. These sorts of questions [about drugs] are predicated on what came a few years later, when I did become...I mean, I had no doubt about myself, but y'know...I would play the game. 'Oh, you want that Keith Richards? I'll give you the baddest mother you've ever seen.'" UNCUT: According to comments made by Mick Jagger over the years, Exile was in sore need of salvaging when they left France, amounting to little more than 'grungy backing tracks'. Jagger has frequently intimated that he supervised it's rescue in LA, taking charge of the overdubs and pulling rabbits out of the hat. Put this version to Keith Richards and you get an interesting reaction. KR: '"Grungy backing tracks?!' he splutters. "Listen, if you believe Mick, you'll believe anything. Once again this is the difference between Mick and me. His recollection is quite honestly bullshit. The only things we did in LA were things like, y'know 'We need three chicks to sing back-up on "Let It Loose".' Or we need a fiddle player. I mean, just extras. You see, the reason Mick says that is because he doesn't think his vocals are loud enough. But lead vocalists never think their vocals are loud enough." "I would never take Mick's recollection of anything seriously. If Mick says that we just took a load of 'grungy' stuff out of France, and really made the record in LA, that's bullshit. This is why Mick can never write a book. He can't remember anything. I mean, he once, many years ago, was going to write a book. And all I got was a load of phone-calls. 'What were we doing on August 14th...?' Because he doesn't remember a thing! Especially the nuances. He's going to spin you a yarn. He doesn't feel he's under any obligation to tell you the truth." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 4th, 2010 at 11:41am Gazza wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 10:47am:
Truth be told, the first one wasn't completely empty. It did have a foam disc inside. Couldn't get it to work in my DVD player, though... :-? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Mar 4th, 2010 at 12:09pm Gazza wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 6:41am:
So what's this Exile documentary that's being touted to air on US Network television and through BBC Worldwide internationally? Amazon still states the DVD included on the super deluxe edition is 30 mins. Are there two completely different Exile documentaries being prepared for the release of this(doubtful), one 30 mins and one 61 mins? Are they the same thing? Is one a bastardized version? Are the Stones using this DVD documentary to bait their fans into shelling out $120, before it's shown on TV for free? Will Adam and Jamie be needed to help bust this myth? Is Mick Taylor involved? From Amazons description: As a complement to the release of Exile on Main Street, a documentary, "Stones in Exile," has just been completed for fans to view on US Network television and through BBC Worldwide internationally. The documentary features rare, never-before-seen archival film, photos and interviews as well as new conversations with the band and the artists they influence. Produced by Oscar -winning filmmaker John Battsek and directed by Stephen Kijak, who is known for award-winning work on Cinemania, and Scott Walker: 30 Century Man, "Stones in Exile" offers an uncommon glimpse into the lives of the band as they created one of the greatest albums of all time. Exile on Main Street will be available in two CD formats: the original 18 track release; a deluxe CD edition with the 10 special bonus tracks; and a super deluxe package that also includes vinyl, a 30-minute documentary DVD with footage from Cocksucker Blues, Ladies and Gentlemen... the Rolling Stones and Stones in Exile, and a 50-page collector's book with photos from the Exile era. The 10 unreleased tracks were produced by Jimmy Miller, The Glimmer Twins and Don Was. http://www.amazon.com/Exile-Main-St-Dvd-Dlx/dp/B0039ZF89G/ref=sr_1_4/186-8332974-1107602?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1267721974&sr=1-4 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 4th, 2010 at 12:45pm Keith Richards: “Rumors of My Sobriety Are Greatly Exaggerated” 3/4/10, 1:31 pm EST Photo: Shearer/WireImage In the new issue of Rolling Stone, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and producer Don Was tell the story behind the Rolling Stones upcoming Exile On Main Street reissue, which is due May 18th in a variety of special editions — several of which feature 10 never-before-heard Stones tracks from the Exile era. At the end of our phoner with Richards, we asked about the possibility of a new Stones studio album in the near future. “There’s no definite plans, but I can’t see any of them stopping,” he says. “I wouldn’t be surprised if we did some recording later this year.” But the guitarist admits he’s uncertain whether any sort of tour would follow. “I don’t know how the rest of them feel about roadwork at the moment,” he tells RS. “Maybe we’ll search for a different way for the Stones to go back on the road. Maybe not the football stadiums anymore. Maybe something different. You can’t go around there in lemon-yellow tights forever.” Richards also addressed reports he had stopped drinking. “Listen, the rumors of my sobriety are greatly exaggerated,” he says. “And we’ll leave it at that.” See the new issue of Rolling Stone for much more on the new Exile On Main Street reissue, Keith’s forthcoming memoir, the documentary that Johnny Depp is currently prepping about his life, and the next Stones album. rollingstone.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 4th, 2010 at 12:54pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 12:45pm:
Before anyone gets excited about the last bit he just says some vague stuff about writing songs and hopes the Stones 'might do something later this year'. More or less what he said in September 2009 to the same magazine about what might happen in early 2010. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 4th, 2010 at 12:59pm Man, you just took the wind out of a certain anyone's sails... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 1:04pm
He's still alive & sounding better than ever.
Thanks for the reads! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 4th, 2010 at 4:20pm
Those are great quotes from Keef about Mick -
Keef can be just as full of shit as Mick, but Keef is the only one who calls Mick on his shit. Funny stuff, and so true. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on Mar 4th, 2010 at 4:38pm
what's that groucho saying - "the key to sucess is sincerity - once you can fake that you've got it made" - it would seem to apply to keith who gets props and kudos for being a no-bull shit straight shooter (indeed he has fashioned a legend on this premise) - yet even he admits that the bad ass rock and roller act is sometimes just that - an act - (at least he's honest about that)
still, what would you expect - they might be the rolling stones but it's still show biz |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 4th, 2010 at 5:09pm
we got a long way to go and a short time to get there. We gonna do what they say can't be done.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Mar 4th, 2010 at 10:39pm
Keith : “I don’t know how the rest of them feel about roadwork at the moment,” he tells RS. “Maybe we’ll search for a different way for the Stones to go back on the road. Maybe not the football stadiums anymore. Maybe something different. You can’t go around there in lemon-yellow tights forever.”
get them thinking caps on boys theatre gigs where the band 'play' without the running around. cmon Keithy. Cant the band do it for fun, there is no way they can spend all the $$ they already have ... :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 5th, 2010 at 11:10am
Play.com are advertising the deluxe Exile and have given a track listing for the bonus disc :
Loving Cup - Alternate Take Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) I'm Not Signifying Dancing In The Light So Divine (Aladdin Story) Soul Survivor - Alternate Take Following The River Plundered My Soul Good Time Women Title 5 http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13803720/Exile-On-Main-Street/Product.html So, according to that, 'Good Time Women' and 'Title 5' are in and 'Scarlet' is gone. As I mentioned yesterday, 'Sophia Loren' and 'Pass The Wine' are the same song. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 5th, 2010 at 11:55am Gazza wrote on Mar 5th, 2010 at 11:10am:
Could Title 5 be Scarlet? WAsn't it mentioned that someone heard this and it was amazing? If so why not include this?? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 5th, 2010 at 12:27pm
Certainly seems an odd title to give a finished song...looks more like a working title.
There's a "Title 6" in the ABKCO files (Box RS06 - tape S19) although it appears to be from spring 1968 as the other three songs listed on the same reel are 'Pay Your Dues', 'Jigsaw Puzzle' and 'Parachute Woman' A song called "Title 5" from the same era ended up being renamed 'Jumpin Jack Flash'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 5th, 2010 at 1:21pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 5th, 2010 at 6:07pm Just read the new Rolling Stone article. Coupla bits of interest... "Following The River" is the only track that received a brand-new vocal, though others - "Pass The Wine", "Plundered My Soul", Aladdin's Story" - needed additional guitar parts or other sonic improvements. "When I cut new parts, I was just trying to stay out of the way of the tracks," says Keith Richards. "I stroked an acoustic here and there, but I didn't want to interfere with the bible." Bassist Bill Wyman and drummer Charlie Watts weren't needed for overdubs, but (Don) Was doesn't deny that guitarist Mick Taylor, who left the group in 1974, was brought back to cut new parts for the release. "I'm not saying that's not true," Was says. "I'm simply not going to deny it or say it didn't happen." He also dispelled the biggest mystery surrounding Exile: whether frequent houseguest Gram Parsons ever sat in. Says Was, "I didn't hear him anywhere, and that was one of the things I was looking for." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 5th, 2010 at 6:21pm
Good to know, if true. Seems odd that 'Aladdin Story' gets a new title though if the vocal was also recorded in 1970 or thereabouts.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 5th, 2010 at 6:26pm
Cover version of 'Aladdin Story' by Death In Vegas, from 1999.
Like the bootlegged Stones version, its an instrumental. Very similar arrangement and horns too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-5NPI63IY |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 5th, 2010 at 6:46pm
Despite myself, I am really excited about this release. I hope it's just the tip of the iceberg...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 5th, 2010 at 7:32pm Mel Belli wrote on Mar 5th, 2010 at 6:46pm:
we can only hope... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 5th, 2010 at 7:36pm
It just keeps gettin gooder
I'm ready for some solid song reviews, pronto! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 6th, 2010 at 12:19am Gazza wrote on Mar 4th, 2010 at 6:41am:
(Insert angelic choir here) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by RSRTG on Mar 6th, 2010 at 12:45am
I cant wait to get my copy of exile when it comes out. I'm gonna lock myself away, have a few bevvies and enjoy the new old music.....i want more more more obscure stuff.....I'm not greedy but I want more. :forfucksake
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bob Tamp on Mar 6th, 2010 at 7:58am
I dont get where play.com got their tracklisting. In the new Rollingstone they specifically menton Good Time Women, and Scarlett in a side bar so I will assume both of these are on it. What's TITLE 5? It's really all speculation for now
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 6th, 2010 at 8:59am 'Good Time Women' is included in the play.com tracklist. 'Scarlet' isn't mentioned in that RS sidebar. They discuss 'Good Time Women', 'Pass The Wine', Aladdin's Story' and 'Soul Survivor'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:05am mojoman wrote on Mar 5th, 2010 at 1:21pm:
...with a month earlier release date?! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:08am GotToRollMe wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 12:19am:
Will this work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLBB-7-z3SM |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:17am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:08am:
Haven't heard that take in a while... probably one of Wyman's favourites with the bass high in the mix. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:26am
2 months wait... i need to find ways to distract myself, to not think about it too much... this might be a good time to reform the exile mafia.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:39am Pdog wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:26am:
i'm gonna take up speedballing |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 6th, 2010 at 3:29pm Lazy Bones wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:05am:
..and another bonus track! Limited 7 inch vinyl single with the tracks 'Plundered My Soul', b/w 'All Down The Line'. The B-side is one of the previously unreleased tracks from the 'Exile On Main St', 2010 reissue. 2 tracks |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 6th, 2010 at 4:55pm Gazza wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 3:29pm:
oh shit, is this the 45 single mix I've been wishing for... i love this version... oh please god, i hope this is true... i'm so excited i'm going to go on chat roulette and masturbate for all the world to see!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 6th, 2010 at 5:09pm
I think you should keep your knob in your pants for a while yet, mate.
If its genuinely 'previously unreleased', its literally that - the US single mix was 'previously released'. I'm guessing its an early version - if not the circulating acoustic take, then something similar and reasonably far enough removed from the album version to make it's release worthwhile. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Mar 6th, 2010 at 5:14pm
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I've still got the disc that Melody Maker had in their magazine before Exile was released, Mick does a introduction on piano singing "exile on main street, the strange street to walk down", etc |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 6th, 2010 at 5:49pm Gazza wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 5:09pm:
those people on chat roulette just got a laff out of the old dude holding a copy of exile while pleasuring himself... talk about premature!!! I do like the acoustic take, and i have a somewhat decent version of the 45 mix... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 6th, 2010 at 5:55pm
good to see you on steve hoffmans forum too gaz, i love that place, read it a few times a week... best all around site for all news music... so diverse.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 6th, 2010 at 7:48pm
I'm giddier.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 6th, 2010 at 8:05pm Pdog wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 5:55pm:
I'd never even heard of it until about 2-3 weeks ago! Someone on IORR mentioned a bit on it about Exile so I had to google the site and then find the thread, which takes a while. have hardly had time to explore much else on it so far though! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 6th, 2010 at 8:06pm Pdog wrote on Mar 6th, 2010 at 10:26am:
Is that another of those facebook applications? I might join this one if it is. :) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 8th, 2010 at 5:59am
still waiting on a review of the songs, starting to piss me off. Someone, somewhere, somehow has heard them.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 8th, 2010 at 8:59am Some Guy wrote on Mar 8th, 2010 at 5:59am:
Yes and his name is Mick Jagger. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 9th, 2010 at 8:23pm
I gave away my Exile cd to someone less fortunate (music lover, owns no Stones). I am in exile from Exile until May 18th. That's commitment.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Mar 9th, 2010 at 8:43pm
More from rolling stone mag
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/32635178/the_secrets_behind_the_rolling_stones_exile_on_main_street_reissue The Secrets Behind the Rolling Stones' "Exile on Main Street" Reissue Mick Jagger and Keith Richards reevaluate their classic 1972 double album ANDY GREENEPosted Mar 09, 2010 12:40 PM In the new issue of Rolling Stone, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards talk about plundering their vaults for the upcoming rerelease of their 1972 masterpiece Exile on Main Street. Here's more from our conversations with the two Rolling Stones and producer Don Was. The intimate Rolling Stones: photos from the band's 1969 tour. Mick Jagger: Tell me how this new edition of Exile on Main Street came together. Universal wanted to rerelease Exile, and they asked me if there were any tracks that we didn't use when we released it originally. And I said, "Well, I doubt it very much." One, 'cause I thought we probably used most of the tracks anyway, 'cause it was a double album. And secondly, 'cause I couldn't really be bothered. But then they said, "Please, will you look?" I was quite surprised to find the tapes in such a good state. They all had to be baked in ovens [to] last forever. I added bits and pieces here and there. What sort of bits and pieces did you add? I added some percussion. I added some vocals. Keith put guitar on one or two. I added some acoustic guitar and some other things. Charlie [Watts] didn't need to come in. The drums were all perfect. "Pass the Wine," for example, was very, very long, so I edited it down. In the spirit of Exile we added some girl background vocals on "Tumbling Dice" and "Shine a Light." We had some nice background vocals on the originals. But I think in the end it's very much sounding like it was in those days, so to speak. Tell me the process of sorting through all this old material. Keith and I listened to it. We picked things that we rather liked. And then I started doing research on my own and I found out that quite a lot of these pieces were really not from the Exile period at all. They were either earlier or later. Some of them much later. There was one moment where Keith said to me, "God, I think Mick Taylor sounds really good on that one" and I said, "Yeah, it sounds fantastic." Then I went online and found out that it's actually B.B. King playing on it and it was done like 10 years ago. Exile was recorded over quite a long period. Some of it was recorded in Olympic Studios in England, some was recorded in France, and then there was stuff done in L.A. So I set myself a sort of time frame for it. The first recording was "Loving Cup" in 1969, and then the last sessions for Exile were done in 1972. So that was my time period. Are there songs on the set that you just couldn't recall making in the first place? I recall making it all. It was just where and when and with who was another matter. Who's playing what? It wasn't always put down who's playing guitar and who's playing keyboard and that sort of thing. There are still a few mysteries. Most of it was recorded on an eight-track, some of it was recorded on a 16-track. We kind of figured it out because of that. Tell me about "Following the River." That's a brand new vocal, right? I just started from nothing on that. The core tape of it was the piano and the drums, bass, and guitar. There was no top line or lyric. I started from scratch — I mean, that's what I do, and I've done it many times before. And it's daunting in the beginning, but after a while you get into it. So how do you go about writing lyrics? You just sit down and write it as you would anything else, you know? Sometimes you write the lyrics while you're sitting down playing the piano or guitar, and the lyrics come to you while you're writing the song. And sometimes you write the melody first and you have to write all the lyrics. And sometimes you get half the lyrics. And sometimes there's a track that you didn't turn up on the session. And they say, "Mick, we've done this great track. Will you write the words?" And that was this one. I've heard you say in the past that you thought Exile is a bit overrated. Do you still feel that way? Well, that was like maybe when people started saying, "Is this your favorite album?" I was one to say, "Well, I don't think it really is. I'm a great fan of Sticky Fingers." This is very different album 'cause it's so sprawling. It doesn't contain a lot of hit singles for instance. Over the years a lot of the songs have been played onstage and they've acquired another life. So it's a very different kind of album than Sticky Fingers or Let It Bleed in that way. The production value is a different. It's just a different vibe. But, I mean, there are really great things on it. And I spent the last six months living with it, so I know it pretty much inside out now. Do you have more respect for it after those six months? Nah, I always had a lot of respect for it. It was difficult, because people didn't like it when it came out. I think they just found it quite difficult because of the length of it. People didn't access it quite so easily at the time. It got kind of mixed reviews. People found it a bit impenetrable and a bit difficult. Everyone said, "It's my favorite, it's my favorite, I love it!" and I said, "Well, it's not mine." It was just sort of toss off remark and it's come back to haunt me, really. Keith Richards: How did this new Exile set come together? Well, basically it's the record and a few tracks we found when we were plundering the vaults. Listening back to everything we said, "Well, this would be an interesting addition." Are these songs you had forgotten about? I must say yes, it's been quite awhile. That's what longevity does to you. "Start Me Up" we'd forgotten about for five years before we put it out. And you and Mick added new parts to some of them? There wasn't much to be done and I really didn't want to get in the way of what was there. It was missing a bit of body here and there, and I stroked something on acoustic here and there. But otherwise, I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were. Mick wanted to sort of fix some vocal things, but otherwise, basically they are as we left them 39 years ago. Do you think the basement cuts from France sound different than the songs you recorded in the States or in England? Oh, definitely. That was pretty unique way of recording. We did a lot of work on the stuff when we took it to L.A., 'cause we did a lot of overdubs and stuff on it there, but there was something about the rhythm section sound down there — maybe it's the concrete, or maybe it's the dirt, but it has a certain sound to it that you couldn't replicate if you tried. Exile was initially greeted with mixed reviews. Oh, at first, yeah. We kind of expected that just from the fact that it was a double album. First of all, the record company wanted to cut it in half. So we said, "Oh, this is not looking good." But also we insisted, "No, this is what we did. This is Exile on Main Street, and we insist that it's a double album." So it kind of got a slow take-off, but ever since then, it's been up there. Also, it's the first album with no particular single on it, you know? There was no "Brown Sugar" or whatever. We made it as an album, rather than looking for a hit single. Many now consider it your best album. Do you agree? I would put it up there with 'em. It's very difficult for me to pick my babies apart, you know? But, Beggar's Banquet, Exile, Sticky Fingers, Let it Bleed — I mean, it was part of that period where we were really hitting it, you know? As you and Mick started work on these old songs, did you start thinking about new songs? Oh yes. You're always thinking of new songs. Or rather, the new songs are thinking of you. I never sit down and say, "Oh, it's songwriting time." But every now and again, a certain note or a certain chord sort of rings a bell, and you sort of grab a guitar and go, "I must remember that." Does Mick want to cut a new album? Hey, you're asking me? You better ask Mick that one [laughs]. But my feeling is that, generally, people get itchy at a certain time. I'm sort of waiting for a phone call, you know? Don Was: How did the process of sorting through the Exile outtakes begin? They just sent me hundreds of hours of multitracks to go through, which was the best gig ever. It was all mixed up. It was labeled by number code and it wasn't an accurate directory of what it was. You'd be listening to some blues jam and then all of a sudden there's a version of "Wild Horses" with a string quartet, then another reel with all the takes of "Honky Tonk Woman" leading up to the final one. It was mind-blowing for a Stones fanatic such as myself. I also got very involved with the guys who bootlegged the stuff. I wanted them to have some surprises too, not just better mixes of stuff that they were very familiar with. We found songs that had vocals, for example, where only instrumental tracks had ever surfaced. Why did you have to bake the master tapes? It's not really like a solid piece of tape, like you think of Scotch tape. It's more like sandpaper. You have all these oxide particles and they get moved over the magnetic recording heads and rearranged into patterns that when it passes over the playback head — the playback head recognizes those patterns and transduces it into sound waves. Tapes from the '50s and '60s are OK. But I guess they started saving money, and tapes from the '70s, '80s, '90s — the particles tended to coagulate together and fall off the surface. So baking somehow makes them adhere to the surface without altering the pattern. It holds the particles in place at least for one time through so you can transfer it to something digital. How much new overdubbing did the band do? The essence of these things never got changed from 1969 to 1971. Beyond finding the best stuff to put out, the second responsibility was really to make sure nothing happened to alter the spirit of Exile. On "Following the River," the vocal was there but he knew what he wanted to do with the words — he just never got around to it. So he sang it again. And in one case there is a great ballad that never had lyrics. He wrote it and finished it. I heard a rumor somewhere that you guys brought in Mick Taylor to overdub some things. Is that true at all? I'm not saying it's not true. I'm simply not going to deny. What else can you tell me about the unheard songs? Well, as a bass player, I can tell you that Bill Wyman is a genius. He blew my mind, the stuff I heard him play here. He really doesn't get enough credit. The drums were amazing, but everyone knows that Charlie's the greatest. How do you pick one alternate version of "Tumbling Dice" when they spent hours and hours working on that song? It's hard to do. That version of "Tumbling Dice" was chosen because it's got the other lyric. The actual version that's on Exile, it's got to be one of the top five all-time great rock & roll singles. There's so much wrong with it. Now a lot of the things that happened somewhat randomly, like the vocals being mixed down low, people have imitated. It's become part of the vocabulary of rock & roll record-making. But it's wrong, by all standards. But it's absolutely perfect. It's a perfect record. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 9th, 2010 at 9:23pm
WOW
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ian Billen on Mar 9th, 2010 at 11:18pm
Don Was is asked here in this article if Mick Taylor added over-dubs to the recent sessions with Mick and Keith as was mildly rumored and Don Was clearly states he cannot deny it ?????
Wow. I never thought I'd see The Rolling Stones (Mick and Keith) actually in the studio with Mick Taylor working on Rolling stones material ....again ...IF (and that is a huge "if"), that may of occurred here... Note: Is Don just adding hype here to this release so more will look into it or did it occur? It doesn't need any more hype. It's getting a load of attention anyway. We all know it's coming and many of us will buy it. He's in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine concerning it. Being the world class producer that he is he's gotta know all that is in line regardless. I mean ...why wouldn't he just say "it was just Mick and Keith actually" or simply say in so many words that it wasn't the case when asked here about the rumor?? Instead he states and reiterates he can't say it's not true??? wtf? ***Imagine if two years ago someone would of told you The Rolling Stones and Mick Taylor would be recording again and it is on a new release of Exile on Main Street with ten new tracks nobody's ever heard of before... We would of replied to wake up from the pleasant dream. Well, most of this, if not all of it has actually friggin happened! In a word ....Incredible. Ian |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Mar 10th, 2010 at 2:15am
Does Mick want to cut a new album?
Keith : Hey, you're asking me? You better ask Mick that one [laughs]. But my feeling is that, generally, people get itchy at a certain time. I'm sort of waiting for a phone call, you know? start scratching Keefy, start scratching :wtf3 :wtf3 :wtf3 :wtf3 :wtf3 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 10th, 2010 at 6:22am Ian Billen wrote on Mar 9th, 2010 at 11:18pm:
They weren't in the studio with Taylor, as far as I know. From what's been reported previously, Taylor was sent tapes to add some overdubs to. Still 'incredible', enough, though, as you say. Never ceases to amaze me how clueless the Stones are what they have though. I mean listening to stuff from presumably around 1997 with BB King and being under the impression its Exile outtakes with Taylor from 25 years earlier? WTF? Why dont these people just appoint a proper archivist, like The Dead, Dylan and others have done. Whats this about adding overdubs to Tumbling Dice and Shine A light for this project? I presume he means the 'Good time women' early version, but 'Shine A light' isnt on this bonus album - I guess he means 'Loving Cup', as an early version of it IS on this release. From reading Don Was' comments on the quality of the tapes, it seems they're going to have to do something pretty soon to preserve the material they recorded from the 70s on before they get damaged. Great reading. Mid-May cant come soon enough |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:48am
Wonder if they will release an early single of one of the "new" tunes? Something to get the attention of the casual or less crazy fans like us? And to get us salivating even more! Don't know about you but I'm in Pavlov mode already.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:57am
Already confirmed that they will
http://www.amazon.com/Plundered-Soul-7inch-Rolling-Stones/dp/B003AVQD0C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1268229361&sr=8-1 'Plundered My Soul' is being released as a vinyl 7' single a few weeks before the album comes out. Backed with 'All down the line' - its a bit vague as to whether its the album version or an early version left off the bonus CD |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:59am Deathgod wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 2:15am:
Great. Now his fax machine is broke. It's the end. >:( |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:09am Great interview. Nice to read Was giving some props to Bill. Thanks for posting, Voo. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:16am Gazza wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:57am:
In the details section of the Amazon ad it says the All Down The Line is a never released version? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:40am Wouldn't mind an "official" release of this version - 'All Down The Line' |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 10th, 2010 at 9:38am gimmekeef wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:16am:
The B-side is one of the previously unreleased tracks from the 'Exile On Main St', 2010 reissue. Yeah, thats how I interpreted it too. Although surely the A-side is 'one of the previously unreleased tracks from the 'Exile On Main St', 2010 reissue' as well. I just assume it means the A-side is on the bonus CD and the B-side isn't, and that is previously unreleased anywhere else. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:25am
I swung by Barnes and Nobles today and perused the new Rolling Stone- they give a little description of some of the tunes- can someone post it?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:08pm
I haven't been this excited since 1981.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:35pm
Good stuff! Wonder why they didn't ask Mick and Keith about Mick Taylor? And why is Don Was being so careful? Isn't MT going to get credited?
It will be interesting to hear how that new vocal sounds, affected like Mick sings now most of the time on the ballads? Let's hope not! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on Mar 10th, 2010 at 9:29pm
I'm going to go off on a long riff here:
So a B.B. King recording from the late 90's ends up in the same vault as Exile treasure and Mick and Keef mistake B.B. (one of their idols) as Mick Taylor? Very interesting. They should be able to tell the difference. I wonder if the B.B. stuff is from that album he cut in which Mick and Keef appear. That came out about 10 years ago or so. Odd. So odd. Who has the keys to this vault? I agree with the above-a proper custodian is needed to sort through this mess. And it does sound like a mess. But this happens all of the time. If this shit was sorted properly, music custodians wouldn't be needed. I will gladly lend my services to the Stones. Don Was does his part by adding to the mystery. Is MT on this or not? Buy it and give it a spin. Did Mick tap into where he was in 72 to write these lyrics, or did he write them with his current mindset? Did Keef do the same? Did he pick up an electric? Did he use vintage guitars? Did Mick use a vintage mic? Do they even care about that sort of thing? Keef loved the fact Jeff Sarli's bass was the same one used on the Elvis hits when they hired him for a few tracks on Bridges to Babylon. I am looking forward to this very much! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ian Billen on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:28pm
Gazza Wrote:
They weren't in the studio with Taylor, as far as I know. From what's been reported previously, Taylor was sent tapes to add some overdubs to. Still 'incredible', enough, though, as you say. _________________________________ Yes. Them including him in any way, especially recording in some sense as you note just totally surprising. Never thought I'd hear of this again. Never ceases to amaze me how clueless the Stones are what they have though. I mean listening to stuff from presumably around 1997 with BB King and being under the impression its Exile outtakes with Taylor from 25 years earlier? WTF? __________________________________________ Yeah I mean really???? I mean come on now. 97 was a totally different era, decade, ...what have you and 25 years later for cryin out loud. How could they NOT know it.... Mick: "Oh this must be an old out take from Exile. Yeah I think I can even vaguely remember this one" Someone: "ah, actually it is when we were doing Bridges Mr. Jagger....". Mick: "Oh ....ok I got it now.... next tune..." Why dont these people just appoint a proper archivist, like The Dead, Dylan and others have done. ___________________________________________ I know. I guess this is what makes them The Stones. They still have their "down to earthness" through all the success in many ways. Remember the tapes that were shown in Micks closet in "Being Mick"? They were just in some side room on the floor and things like they were simply old lamp shades or something... I mean geeze ... those are bits of rock and roll history and Mick just shrugged it off. No one from higher up ever thought of sayin ....hey we gotta get and really make sure we preserve these things and move them some where and we need to categorize them accordingly... ? Instead they were just layin around in there like a make shift attic or something?? Strange indeed. Almost surreal. From reading Don Was' comments on the quality of the tapes, it seems they're going to have to do something pretty soon to preserve the material they recorded from the 70s on before they get damaged. ____________________________ Not being sarcastic but instead in agreement I will respond with ....uhhhhh y-e-aaaahhhh... Great reading. Mid-May cant come soon enough ___________________________ It really can't. This has by far and away exceeded anything I would of expected out of them in looking back these days. Wow. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:18am
what kind of sales are we looking at, realistically?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:37am
The article implies that Don Was is going to sort through it all. He says there is tons of stuff. It took a year to do Exile alone. The entire mess could take several. I was glad to read they are looking for the tracks the bootleggers don't have. This could be very interesting - not just the Exile re-issue.
I'm hoping listening to the unfinished tracks from time gone by gives Mick and Keith the itch. Either finishing the thoughts on tape or using the old tapes as guides to new tracks. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 6:51am Steel Wheels wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 9:29pm:
It would indeed be that session. As far as I know, "Payin' The Cost To Be The Boss" is the only time they've worked with BB King. The album it's taken from, "Deuces Wild" came out in November 1997. The song was recorded in spring 1997 in Los Angeles during the 'Bridges To Babylon' sessions. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 11th, 2010 at 6:51am
I was in Best Buy looking for that Crowes disc Cabin Fever and was thinking to myself- soon, very soon.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:00am
Thanks for posting this Voodoo!
Guess I should head out to the book store today.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:03am
Is there a rumour that they are gonna use that voice altering shit, you know like Cher used for her hit a few years back?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:13am 'Believe' was rumored to be considered for the bonus disc, but those plans were quickly scrapped. Didn't have that scuzzy 'Exile' feel... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:16am
You mean something like "Autotune" ? I don't think Mick needs that !
Some Guy wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:25am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:16am AngieBlue wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:37am:
All the more reason to appoint a band archivist or a team of people to take care of it. Its unreasonable to expect Don Was to do this on a regular basis - he has a career outside of working with the Stones - and naturally its unfeasible for the band to do it themselves, as they all have other things to do (stop sniggering!). Bob Dylan does this. I would hazard a guess that his input into his 'Bootleg Series' is minimal and at the very most involves nothing more than giving a final nod of approval or otherwise. Jeff Rosen has done a great job in overseeing Bob's archives and the shot in the arm it has given his career in the last two decades despite starting a time when his stock was at its lowest ever ebb has been massive. Grateful Dead fans have been spoiled rotten with the 'Dick's Picks' series, even though the guy who originally selected the recordings for the band's approval died in 1999. I think to date there have been 36 'Dick's Picks' releases between 1993 and 2005, a dozen digital 'Download series' of shows released between 2005 and 2006 - and then the 'Road Trips' series of multiple shows from one tour, which has already seen 10 releases since late 2007. Consider how little input the Stones must have made into some of their recent releases and doing something like this would hardly take up too much of their time - ie, releasing 'Live Licks, an album that none of them could surely have heard before it was in the shops (otherwise theyd have noticed the horrible editing), sanctioning the release of 'Rarities' (with a track listing which featured a collection of songs, half of which werent even rarities at all, but which featured on still-available albums which had sold milions of copies and which featured sleevenotes which appeared to have been researched by a chimp) and 'Biggest Bang' (a live DVD which included overdubs by two guitar technicians) Bob, Neil and Bruce have all managed to juggle archives projects with a career in which they still make acclaimed new records and tour regularly - so the notion that the Stones can't or won't do it while still a working band due to some kind of obsession with not wanting their current work to be compared to what they did years ago doesn't really make sense to me. I can understand the logic of not wanting to spend weeks or months wading through old tapes (although each to their own - it'd be a musical wet dream for me), but it should be easy enough to get a few people capable of doing most of the heavy lifting for them. Hopefully it wont be the 'expert' entrusted with sending Mick a compilation of circulating 'Exile' outtakes to enable him to research the upcoming CD but who somehow managed to provide him with a shitload of bootlegs from the late 70's instead. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:30am
I think us "experts" of unreleased tracks should send in our résumé ;-)
"a live DVD which included overdubs by two guitar technicians" - wasn't aware of that, Pierre de Beauport ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:56am
Yes. Pierre is credited on the sleeve of 'Biggest Bang' for 'additional recordings' as is another guitar tech whose name escapes me for the moment as I dont have the DVD handy.
There are some overdubs on the live shows, most notably (and blatantly) on Austin. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:58am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:13am:
No that Cher song had its own distinct brand of scuzzzzzzz |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:42am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Ouch. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:51am
that's steep but I'm in.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 11th, 2010 at 9:29am Some Guy wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:25am:
Ask and you shall receive: "Good Time Women": Originally cut during 1970s' Sticky Fingers sessions, this song sounds nearly identical to "Tumbling Dice," though it has completely different lyrics. You can hear a low-quality version on YouTube. "Pass the Wine": This horn-fueled soul cut had long been known to fans by its working title, "Sophia Loren." "This is a big one for the bootleg guys," says Don Was. "They all know the title, but nobody has ever actually heard the song before." "Aladdin's Story": An instrumental of this heavy, slow-rolling track has been bootlegged, but the Exile box has a finished version. "When we heard these songs, they sounded like ... Exile," says Keith Richards. "They had that great basement sound." "Soul Survivor": This alternate version of Exile's last song features Richards on vocals and completely different lyrics. "Keith sang a guide vocal as he was playing guitar, and he was just improvising," says Was. "No one's ever heard it. It's really cool." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 11th, 2010 at 10:04am
Thanks !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:19pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am:
I hope that's an error, or else what a rip off, the gouge is on |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:32pm Mel Belli wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 9:29am:
thanks!! Doesn't it say in the first paragaph or so about Following the River being a gospel tinged song? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm
If the price is set at $180 they will be tarping off most sales bins as even the most ardent fan will think twice. Joe Average will pass for sure. i'll wait for Pirate Bay thank you.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:33pm gimmekeef wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
tarping the bins... haha! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:48pm Mel Belli wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:42am:
what he said while their attitude towards their archives seems to have shifted a little their pricing policies remain intact |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:49pm
Not to be debbie downer but personally I just don't think the Stones "get it" as far as the CD age goes and how to properly do box sets, retrospectives, bonus tracks, extra material ect...
This entire Exile deluxe edition is looking to be a sham and a total rip-off to their fans, especially when comparing it to the contents of other artist's deluxe box sets. They're asking us to pony up somewhere between $120 to $180 for 2 cd's (of which the main interest is on 4 unheard songs), 1 thirty min "making of" DVD (why just clips, why couldn't they included CS Blues and L&G in there entirety too?), the LP version (cute idea, but I don't own a record player so its basically worthless filler and should be sold separately for the vinyl fanatics) and a 50 page booklet (at the new $180 asking price why stop there ho ho, why not just raise it up few hundred more and include copies of Dominique Tarle's book :) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:53pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:32pm:
It does. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Jesus Christ on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:56pm Pdog wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:33pm:
You'd better NOT be dissing our God-given Free Market System! Seriously, though...what greed mongers! I had just about talked myself into paying $100 - but $180???? JESUS! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:57pm gimmekeef wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
If this does'nt sell well. Jagger will have the vaults permanently sealed. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 11th, 2010 at 4:07pm Jesus Christ wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:56pm:
What, no freebie for you JC? They've name checked you enough. That oughta count for something... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on Mar 11th, 2010 at 4:11pm
It's too god damned expensive for that deluxe set. All I want is a vinyl with the new songs. I could care less what they do with the remaster of Exile. I'm fine with my 1994 remaster, even though the few 2009 remasters I own sound fantastic.
The fact that Mick and Keith couldn't tell the difference between a 1997 recording of BB King and Exile outtakes is disturbing. Was Mick on his cell phone? Was Keith putting a toner in his fax machine? Did they do any critical listening? How can Keith talk all this shit about the fucking soil in France and how it impacts audio quality and mood and misidentify something as unique as BB's tone? Shit, I'm no pro, but if there are two guys in the world that should be able to tell the difference, look no further than the leaders of the Rolling Stones. It doesn't make sense to me. I bet you I could hear the difference between Mick Taylor circa early 70's and BB from 1997. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 4:57pm
That price hike sounds like a mistake to me...makes no sense that it was $100 and now $180 all of a sudden.
$180 is way more expensive than the UK price (£100 = $151) - and CDs in the UK are always at least 30-40% at least more expensive than they are in the US. If it stays at $180 they'll sell about ten copies. Maybe this is Mick's twisted way of ensuring the sales are so bad that he wont have to bother with this again. Anyway, havent seen this quote before - its on the Stones' facebook page : Mick Jagger – on the ‘new’ songs… “I knew there was loads of stuff lying around, but I wanted to be faithful to the time period, I didn’t want to take things out of context...there’s a couple that are really quite good and would compete with anything on ‘Exile,’ I think. Some of them I think are of interest, and fun, but some of them are really good, so I hope people like them" |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:05pm $119.99 on BestBuy.com. Don't think there'll be much of a rush to amazon, myself. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=D4F7542498D75F002AE8843F214C78B9.bbolsp-app03-29?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-5991039086290361030&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Exile+on+main+street&sc=albumTitleSP&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=%A0-Album&ks=960 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:18pm
Oh, I am so annoyed with this price! It's ridiculous, I cant afford it, and I want it bad. I'll get someone to burn me a copy! I know, doing it illegally shouldnt happen, right? yeah right! Thats exactly what's going to happen! At a reasonable price people buy it, but at this price, people steal it. Just saying it like it is. Money hungry fvcks! The price should be much lower! IMO.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:22pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:19pm:
deluxe edition contains old needles, spoons, roaches, empty bottles.................. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:46pm
..and a shit-scraper for your shoes, I hope....
(Christ, now I think of it, can you imagine the kitsch potential for rs.com to exploit here to tie in with this release? Artificial hips to shake, running turds, shit scrapers, edible black angel figurines, Jesus faces - all with the tongue logo tastefully emblazoned on them of course..) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:46pm mojoman wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:22pm:
you know...I could go for that, an official Keith Richards used heroin needle and spoon set, I'd get it framed |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:56pm
'super deluxe' track lengths detailed at allmusic.com -
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:azfpxzusldae The label is noted as "Hip-O Records" - the compilation label of Universal Music Group... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 11th, 2010 at 6:36pm
Confirmed :
01 Loving Cup [alternate take] 5:25 02 Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren) 4:54 03 I'm Not Signifying 4:54 04 Dancing In the Light 4:21 05 So Divine (Aladdin Story) 4:31 06 Soul Survivor [alternate take] 3:58 07 Following the River 4:52 08 Plundered My Soul 3:59 09 Good Time Women [alternate take] 3:21 10 Title 5 1:47 Thanks to Soldatti and Lazybones. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:03pm Gazza wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 4:57pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:18pm mojoman wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:22pm:
Sounds like what's on your coffee table Mojo. ;D |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:37pm
The bonus disk could be better but what the hell, worst is nothing...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:21pm
I just wonder how glaring the new vocals will be....
I know we'll (stones fans) all be able to tell the difference - is that going matter to anyone else. It will to me. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 12th, 2010 at 3:11am
Yes, it will be interesting, especially since it's a ballad apparently and the way he sings ballads since "Blinded by Love" is terribly "mannered"...
Soldatti wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:37pm:
Yes and why only 10 tracks (well maybe 9.5 based on "Track 5") like in the old days, when they stuffed VL or ABB with a lot of filler tracks, Potted Shrimp, Leather Jacket or Travelling Man could certainly have been included in that time period, and how about the "Exile on Main Street Blues" ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by charlotte on Mar 12th, 2010 at 7:40am
Exile on Main St (W/Dvd) (Dlx)
Rolling Stones Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC Order Total: $87.99 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 12th, 2010 at 7:45am
Wonder if the Japanese version will get a new track all on its own. That has happened before so we'll see. My hunch is after the poor sales out of the gate we see prices fall to between $45-$65. Course for me it will be too late as I have to have it day one.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 12th, 2010 at 8:06am gimmekeef wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 7:45am:
Was thinking the same thing. The only thing Amazon Japan has listed now is the US import. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:04am charlotte wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 7:40am:
? Last time I checked it was at $179.99 (if you are talking about the deluxe version with the LP's) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:40am
http://www.musicdirect.com/product/87153
$99.99 on Music Direct. FULL track listing and contents provided there. The Amazon price would appear to be a mistake. Anyone who pays that without shopping around needs their head examined. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:42am Gazza wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:40am:
Ooops too late I bought all they had! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 12th, 2010 at 3:58pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 12th, 2010 at 5:26pm Gazza wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 6:36pm:
i got chub... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 12th, 2010 at 5:46pm
Here's what I'm thinking so far-
01 Loving Cup [alternate take] 5:25- eh, I've heard alt versions/takes of stones tunes before- leave it. 02 Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren) 4:54- I want to hear this one, if it's blood red wine, I'm not moved. 03 I'm Not Signifying 4:54- I want to hear this one. 04 Dancing In the Light 4:21- I want to hear this one. 05 So Divine (Aladdin Story) 4:31- excited about this one. 06 Soul Survivor [alternate take] 3:58- see loving cup 07 Following the River 4:52- excited about this one. 08 Plundered My Soul 3:59- excited about this one. 09 Good Time Women [alternate take] 3:21- What ever. 10 Title 5 1:47- eh, We'll see. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 12th, 2010 at 7:28pm Coupla more sites offering the Super Deluxe for considerably less than amazon.com's current pre-order price: $87.98 @ CD Universe $92.38 @ deepdiscount.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 12th, 2010 at 8:03pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 5:46pm:
I wouldn't worry about that ... The only thing keeping me up at night, so to speak, is the specter of Mick having written really crappy lyrics for his new vocal tracks. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 13th, 2010 at 3:51pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:26pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 3:51pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:36pm
Be right back....almost had to change my pants..wow!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:44pm :wtf3 So. The new tracks won't be available on vinyl. Man. Fuck those assholes. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:46pm
I'm Not Signifying - anyone else 'worried' this is an alternate version of "I Ain't Lying?", the bluesy Exile outtake?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:01pm
That's probably the case:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M--Z4KqRpow |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:05pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
Nasty returns after 13 months and tells it like it is! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:17pm Gazza wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:05pm:
You know Gazza, I paid my $6y whatever bucks, I got my Ya-Ya's . . . I didn't think I was going to . . . I held out for a whole TWO DAYS before buying that big bitch of a box, and when I got it, and when I finally put on SIDE THREE of Get Yer Ya Ya's Out, after spinning the opening act record, and then the new mastering of side one and two, I just about lost my mind. Why? SIDE THREE OF GET YER YA YA'S OUT!!! Side three of the greatest record ever made!!! And you know what? That half-a-record was well worth 60 whatever bucks. I have spun that side probably close to enough times that it's only cost me a buck a spin, you know? That side is GENIUS. Actually worthy of the greatest record ever made. And now they have blown the opportunity to give their fans a side five and six of the greatest studio record ever made. Stupid. Clueless. Dinosaurs. Lord do they piss me off. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:28pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:34pm Mel Belli wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 5:01pm:
Thanks for posting. Mick, please don't clean these songs up too much! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 13th, 2010 at 6:08pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
He lives... He breathes... He is NASTY!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 13th, 2010 at 7:50pm PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 6:08pm:
And he is PISSED. SERIOUSLY, Meggy - what sense does it make to release a DELUXE VINYL EDITION of your schmancy new worked-on-it-for-a-year Exile on Main St. box set and then LEAVE OFF the tracks that are the biggest cherries to the vinyl goons in the first place? :thatwassmart <------ AESTHETIC DIMWIT |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on Mar 13th, 2010 at 9:30pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 7:50pm:
well i guess the up-side is at least it got you posting again glad to see you back - you have been missed |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 13th, 2010 at 10:06pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 7:50pm:
Of course you should be angry Mr. Turntable.. And I agree it is very stupid of them to forget the vinyl nerds who are left in this world of digital. But they probably haven't. They just haven't announced what that little nugget will cost you to buy. It will be a limited edition pressing so expect $$$$$$$$$ ;) ;) ;D And it sure is good to see you back here again! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 13th, 2010 at 10:49pm
thanks to Steffie on IORR...
"Rolling Stones RARE EXILE ON MAIN STREET California 1972" http://pl.netlog.com/search/videos/videoid=pl-913923&rrp=1 EXILE ON MAIN STREET by the Rolling Stones. Robert Frank, photographer. in February 1972, photographer Robert Frank filmed the Rolling Stones walking along South Main Street in Los Angeles, California and in the suburbs for the cover of their upcoming album. As available, the footage is chopped up into short snippets that aren't in sequence . In addition, the footage is interspersed with other shots by Frank of The Bowery in New York City. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 14th, 2010 at 2:11am PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 10:06pm:
I don't think they understand how profoundly awesome it was going to be for us exclusively vinyl dj's to watch young women shaking :kissmyass to a properly mastered, loud version of Good Time Women, and what a serious disservice they have done by denying us (and the young women) this opportunity. Proof positive that they have lost all understanding of the properties of all night drunken revelry. I stand before you utterly betrayed by my so-called favorite band. Again. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 14th, 2010 at 6:35am stonedinaustralia wrote on Mar 13th, 2010 at 9:30pm:
You wanna know what I miss, SIA? The opportunity to :weed, throw on my bonus track LP of the Exile on Main St. SUPER DUPER PÜPER SCÜPER and feel the notes mysteriously fill the air and float around me with that glorious and curiously tactile vinyl presence. This is the biggest Stones vinyl debacle ever. Completely eclipses the Stripped "B"-sides shun. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 14th, 2010 at 7:10am
"Of course you should be angry Mr. Turntable.. "
Quote of the week. G'day there Nasty. Just another in the series of "You Can't Always Get What You Want" from the band we follow. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 14th, 2010 at 5:21pm
The Secrets Behind the Rolling Stones' "Exile on Main Street" Reissue
Mick Jagger and Keith Richards reevaluate their classic 1972 double album ANDY GREENE Posted Mar 09, 2010 12:40 PM Mick Jagger: Tell me how this new edition of Exile on Main Street came together. Universal wanted to rerelease Exile, and they asked me if there were any tracks that we didn't use when we released it originally. And I said, "Well, I doubt it very much." One, 'cause I thought we probably used most of the tracks anyway, 'cause it was a double album. And secondly, 'cause I couldn't really be bothered. But then they said, "Please, will you look?" I was quite surprised to find the tapes in such a good state. They all had to be baked in ovens [to] last forever. I added bits and pieces here and there. What sort of bits and pieces did you add? I added some percussion. I added some vocals. Keith put guitar on one or two. I added some acoustic guitar and some other things. Charlie [Watts] didn't need to come in. The drums were all perfect. "Pass the Wine," for example, was very, very long, so I edited it down. In the spirit of Exile we added some girl background vocals on "Tumbling Dice" and "Shine a Light." We had some nice background vocals on the originals. But I think in the end it's very much sounding like it was in those days, so to speak. Tell me the process of sorting through all this old material. Keith and I listened to it. We picked things that we rather liked. And then I started doing research on my own and I found out that quite a lot of these pieces were really not from the Exile period at all. They were either earlier or later. Some of them much later. There was one moment where Keith said to me, "God, I think Mick Taylor sounds really good on that one" and I said, "Yeah, it sounds fantastic." Then I went online and found out that it's actually B.B. King playing on it and it was done like 10 years ago. Exile was recorded over quite a long period. Some of it was recorded in Olympic Studios in England, some was recorded in France, and then there was stuff done in L.A. So I set myself a sort of time frame for it. The first recording was "Loving Cup" in 1969, and then the last sessions for Exile were done in 1972. So that was my time period. Are there songs on the set that you just couldn't recall making in the first place? I recall making it all. It was just where and when and with who was another matter. Who's playing what? It wasn't always put down who's playing guitar and who's playing keyboard and that sort of thing. There are still a few mysteries. Most of it was recorded on an eight-track, some of it was recorded on a 16-track. We kind of figured it out because of that. Tell me about "Following the River." That's a brand new vocal, right? I just started from nothing on that. The core tape of it was the piano and the drums, bass, and guitar. There was no top line or lyric. I started from scratch — I mean, that's what I do, and I've done it many times before. And it's daunting in the beginning, but after a while you get into it. So how do you go about writing lyrics? You just sit down and write it as you would anything else, you know? Sometimes you write the lyrics while you're sitting down playing the piano or guitar, and the lyrics come to you while you're writing the song. And sometimes you write the melody first and you have to write all the lyrics. And sometimes you get half the lyrics. And sometimes there's a track that you didn't turn up on the session. And they say, "Mick, we've done this great track. Will you write the words?" And that was this one. I've heard you say in the past that you thought Exile is a bit overrated. Do you still feel that way? Well, that was like maybe when people started saying, "Is this your favorite album?" I was one to say, "Well, I don't think it really is. I'm a great fan of Sticky Fingers." This is very different album 'cause it's so sprawling. It doesn't contain a lot of hit singles for instance. Over the years a lot of the songs have been played onstage and they've acquired another life. So it's a very different kind of album than Sticky Fingers or Let It Bleed in that way. The production value is a different. It's just a different vibe. But, I mean, there are really great things on it. And I spent the last six months living with it, so I know it pretty much inside out now. Do you have more respect for it after those six months? Nah, I always had a lot of respect for it. It was difficult, because people didn't like it when it came out. I think they just found it quite difficult because of the length of it. People didn't access it quite so easily at the time. It got kind of mixed reviews. People found it a bit impenetrable and a bit difficult. Everyone said, "It's my favorite, it's my favorite, I love it!" and I said, "Well, it's not mine." It was just sort of toss off remark and it's come back to haunt me, really. Keith Richards: How did this new Exile set come together? Well, basically it's the record and a few tracks we found when we were plundering the vaults. Listening back to everything we said, "Well, this would be an interesting addition." Are these songs you had forgotten about? I must say yes, it's been quite awhile. That's what longevity does to you. "Start Me Up" we'd forgotten about for five years before we put it out. And you and Mick added new parts to some of them? There wasn't much to be done and I really didn't want to get in the way of what was there. It was missing a bit of body here and there, and I stroked something on acoustic here and there. But otherwise, I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were. Mick wanted to sort of fix some vocal things, but otherwise, basically they are as we left them 39 years ago. Do you think the basement cuts from France sound different than the songs you recorded in the States or in England? Oh, definitely. That was pretty unique way of recording. We did a lot of work on the stuff when we took it to L.A., 'cause we did a lot of overdubs and stuff on it there, but there was something about the rhythm section sound down there — maybe it's the concrete, or maybe it's the dirt, but it has a certain sound to it that you couldn't replicate if you tried. Exile was initially greeted with mixed reviews. Oh, at first, yeah. We kind of expected that just from the fact that it was a double album. First of all, the record company wanted to cut it in half. So we said, "Oh, this is not looking good." But also we insisted, "No, this is what we did. This is Exile on Main Street, and we insist that it's a double album." So it kind of got a slow take-off, but ever since then, it's been up there. Also, it's the first album with no particular single on it, you know? There was no "Brown Sugar" or whatever. We made it as an album, rather than looking for a hit single. Many now consider it your best album. Do you agree? I would put it up there with 'em. It's very difficult for me to pick my babies apart, you know? But, Beggar's Banquet, Exile, Sticky Fingers, Let it Bleed — I mean, it was part of that period where we were really hitting it, you know? As you and Mick started work on these old songs, did you start thinking about new songs? Oh yes. You're always thinking of new songs. Or rather, the new songs are thinking of you. I never sit down and say, "Oh, it's songwriting time." But every now and again, a certain note or a certain chord sort of rings a bell, and you sort of grab a guitar and go, "I must remember that." Does Mick want to cut a new album? Hey, you're asking me? You better ask Mick that one [laughs]. But my feeling is that, generally, people get itchy at a certain time. I'm sort of waiting for a phone call, you know? Don Was: How did the process of sorting through the Exile outtakes begin? They just sent me hundreds of hours of multitracks to go through, which was the best gig ever. It was all mixed up. It was labeled by number code and it wasn't an accurate directory of what it was. You'd be listening to some blues jam and then all of a sudden there's a version of "Wild Horses" with a string quartet, then another reel with all the takes of "Honky Tonk Woman" leading up to the final one. It was mind-blowing for a Stones fanatic such as myself. I also got very involved with the guys who bootlegged the stuff. I wanted them to have some surprises too, not just better mixes of stuff that they were very familiar with. We found songs that had vocals, for example, where only instrumental tracks had ever surfaced. Why did you have to bake the master tapes? It's not really like a solid piece of tape, like you think of Scotch tape. It's more like sandpaper. You have all these oxide particles and they get moved over the magnetic recording heads and rearranged into patterns that when it passes over the playback head — the playback head recognizes those patterns and transduces it into sound waves. Tapes from the '50s and '60s are OK. But I guess they started saving money, and tapes from the '70s, '80s, '90s — the particles tended to coagulate together and fall off the surface. So baking somehow makes them adhere to the surface without altering the pattern. It holds the particles in place at least for one time through so you can transfer it to something digital. How much new overdubbing did the band do? The essence of these things never got changed from 1969 to 1971. Beyond finding the best stuff to put out, the second responsibility was really to make sure nothing happened to alter the spirit of Exile. On "Following the River," the vocal was there but he knew what he wanted to do with the words — he just never got around to it. So he sang it again. And in one case there is a great ballad that never had lyrics. He wrote it and finished it. I heard a rumor somewhere that you guys brought in Mick Taylor to overdub some things. Is that true at all? I'm not saying it's not true. I'm simply not going to deny. What else can you tell me about the unheard songs? Well, as a bass player, I can tell you that Bill Wyman is a genius. He blew my mind, the stuff I heard him play here. He really doesn't get enough credit. The drums were amazing, but everyone knows that Charlie's the greatest. How do you pick one alternate version of "Tumbling Dice" when they spent hours and hours working on that song? It's hard to do. That version of "Tumbling Dice" was chosen because it's got the other lyric. The actual version that's on Exile, it's got to be one of the top five all-time great rock & roll singles. There's so much wrong with it. Now a lot of the things that happened somewhat randomly, like the vocals being mixed down low, people have imitated. It's become part of the vocabulary of rock & roll record-making. But it's wrong, by all standards. But it's absolutely perfect. It's a perfect record. Link: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/32635178/the_secrets_behind_the_rolling_stones_exile_on_main_street_reissue |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 14th, 2010 at 6:17pm Mel Belli wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 8:03pm:
I just started from nothing on that. The core tape of it was the piano and the drums, bass, and guitar. There was no top line or lyric. I started from scratch — I mean, that's what I do, and I've done it many times before. And it's daunting in the beginning, but after a while you get into it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 14th, 2010 at 7:06pm
Walmart has the super deluxe edition for 19.99
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 14th, 2010 at 7:51pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 14th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
I must admit ... you broke my heart. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 14th, 2010 at 8:11pm
Nasty, alot of folks do needledrops, maybe you can do a vinly drip!!! some kinda reverse osmosis from digi to vinly... maybe you'll get lucky and they will make you happy...
good to see you back on here too! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 14th, 2010 at 8:35pm Mel Belli wrote on Mar 14th, 2010 at 7:51pm:
Only track apparently though, "Following the River", wonder how he'll sing it, raw style or affected style like a lot of his recent recordings "Always Suffering" style... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 15th, 2010 at 8:49am
I can afford it and will support it.....
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 15th, 2010 at 8:55am gotdablouse wrote on Mar 14th, 2010 at 8:35pm:
Following the River- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkkL5nGNfo |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 15th, 2010 at 9:30am Some Guy wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 8:55am:
Its got a nice beat but I cant see dancing to it...... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 15th, 2010 at 9:39am Nellcote wrote on Mar 14th, 2010 at 7:10am:
Top of the morning, Nelly. What I'm trying to get across here is that they ain't gettin' me what I need. I am trying to DO MY JOB, and they be rock blockin'. Why they wanna be rock blockers??!? Angry Mr. Turntable Pdog wrote on Mar 14th, 2010 at 8:11pm:
Hey, P to the D-O-G, lots of bootleggers do those vinyl drips - you see 'em on Ebay and at the indie record stores alla time - waxed up bonus tracks from CD only issues and innernet MP3s, and while they are OK, I guess, to have in the collection, they do no good in a live DJ setting. Needledrops and reverse needle drops never have the ooomph to fill a room in a "hold the floor or feel like a dork" kind of situation. The problem is with mastering - while a decently leveled needle drop produced w/an OK sound card will sound something like vinyl, CD-to-vinyl doesn't really sound like anything but a slightly muddier CD. It just sort of lies there and thinks of England, instead of, you know, stroking your privates. Besides, I already got Good Time Women on bootleg LP - what I need is a well mastered version for my live gigs! My irritation is based largely on the assumption that they will get somebody decent to do the new vinyl/analog master (or that they will do a new vinyl master at all), as ABKO obviously did for the new Ya Ya's box. If the Exile box LPs don't have an analog specific new mastering then there's no point in buying the LPs at all. Anyone who heard the unlistenable (and in some cases unplayable) LPs that were put out when the SACD hybrids were released in the early aughts knows those things were just pressed straight from the digital masters, and that they were mastered so loudly and flatly that they start to hum if they're turned up to anything approaching rock and roll levels. GODAWFUL. Hopefully for you guys buying Exile vinyl for the first time, this will not be the case. I am pretty sure that, until otherwise advised, I shall be stealing the bonus tracks with great abandon and leaving it at that. Fuck you, Rolling Stones! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 15th, 2010 at 2:37pm
any new updates?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 15th, 2010 at 9:55pm
'In the spirit of Exile we added some girl background vocals on "Tumbling Dice" and "Shine a Light." We had some nice background vocals on the originals. But I think in the end it's very much sounding like it was in those days, so to speak. '
What does that mean? So he added guitar, precussion and new vocals...like a whole new song? This is getting more anti-climactic by the day... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 15th, 2010 at 10:08pm
what's the over/under on sales? 2 mil?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 15th, 2010 at 11:34pm Is that units or dollars? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 16th, 2010 at 1:30am This is beyond ridiculous. I already HAVE the original and handed-down-from-God-Himself "Exile" on vinyl from 1972. Hell, I have TWO of them, postcards and all. Why would I want to shell out two yards for the exact same (and no doubt inferior) double album, when the super-duper "bonus tracks" are in the same old crappy CD format? Someone at Stones, Inc. should get hip before May 18th and have, at the very least, a limited-edition vinyl release of the entire thing. THEN I'll shell out for the complete bastard. I just should have throttled that fucker Cohl when I had the chance. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on Mar 16th, 2010 at 3:25am GotToRollMe wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 1:30am:
same here except only one of my vinyl editions has the postcards..plus i have it on CD and I have the mickboy Main Street Revisted remix - the bonus tracks to which are excellent (with no added guitars, vocals etc i might add) and, it would seem, are much more interesting than the proposed bonus tracks on this re-issue I'm thinking I will wait on the RO verdict before I start shelling out the readys i'm with tex - all this talk of o'dubs and new vocals is really harshing my buzz ... sad to say but - "did you ever get the feeling that they just don't get it??" or maybe , baby, they just don't care |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 16th, 2010 at 4:38am texile wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 9:55pm:
Already mentioned this earlier. he's talking about a few overdubs on the bonus tracks (he has mistaken SAL for Loving cup, presumably and he means the Good Time women version of Tumbling Dice) The original 18-track album has only been remastered as was the case with all the other Universal reissues. Nothing has been added to it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by parachuteman on Mar 16th, 2010 at 5:00am Gazza wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 4:38am:
I was thinking about this.. as much as keith has had this "can't fuck with the bible" attitude and clearly we don't want them to alter the original tracks, but my poor feet have been itchin' to hear some of the alternate takes of tumbling dice. Mick mentioned adding parts to the good time women outtake, but that was a very primitive version of TD that we have all (I assume) heard before. Isn't anyone else curious about the apparent 150 different takes they did before reaching the final product of tumbling dice? I remember reading an interview where Mick said that they definetely chose the wrong final track for the single we've all come to love. He said they chose one of the takes that wasn't his best vocal or something and that there were better takes in the vault. I'd much rather him dig out what he thought was a better tumbling dice and put THAT on the bonus disc instead of Good Time Women |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:03am
Indeed. And in the new 'Uncut' interview he also dismisses the original lyrics for 'TD' (which he later rewrote in LA) as 'crap'. I'm assuming its Good Time Women he's referring to - which he's now decided to release.
Unless there was another draft of lyrics in between, which are in the version we're getting. Like I've said before, the fact that they recorded a double album leads me to believe that they didnt have many songs left over which wer finished or close to finished. However, if you're going to release a bonus disc of outtakes, then a few more alternate versions of released songs to fill up the remaining space on a CD would have been nice. Seems a bit odd to release an LP-length bonus disc - and then only put it out on CD. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:13am
Yes, especially since Travellin' Man, Leather Jacket or Potted Shrimp could have been included without anyone being too bothered, even there had been some doubt remains as to weather they were recorded during the 1970/1972 timeframe.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:36am stonedinaustralia wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 3:25am:
What they've done is LOST IT. Putting out shitty product for years that can't possibly make any real money and then moaning about how much work this was . . . To Hell with Them. I'm with you guys - I have original US vinyl, original UK vinyl, original German vinyl, Japanese vinyl, mono Tumblin' Dice/Black Angel 45, ADTL/Happy 45 (it's a travesty that this ADTL is not included in the official CD release. A TRAVESTY!), and more than one vinyl boot with studio outtakes hodgepodged on it. And I'm going to give this set the miss. Who knows? I may buy the CD issue if I like the bonus tracks enough. But no way am I shelling out my $$ for some bullshit documentary and an untested press of an album I own great great copies of already. Now, I don't think they owe me anything - I was just sort of "waxing" (ha!) hyperbolic about that to what was hopefully the amusement of all, but seriously . . . I am, as a vinyl/Rolling Stones/rock 'n' roll loyalist, the EXACT DEMOGRAPHIC for this piece of shit, and I can't be the only one getting off the bus on it because of the poorly thought out product execution. If Jagger wants $$ value for his time he needs to understand what makes this release worthy of the hype and deliver the right product combination to the people who will buy it. That's just economics. The "if it sells, we'll do more" logic only works if the product is worth buying. That's a two way st. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:40am
The cover for the first single
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:47am Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:40am:
Plundered my goddamn wallet. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:09am
Just a heads up (and I'm sure Nasty might know about this):
Record Store Day (which is going to be on 4/17/10) is a day celebrating small, indie record stores. Usually some artists have limited releases of vinyl singles and LP's that come out on this day. The 7" of "Plundered My Soul" will be in shops and is listed as one of the releases for Record Store Day. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:28am Boomy wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:09am:
I saw that, but then again, I see that it's available for pre-order on Amazon.com Traditionally record store day 7" are only available on record store day at actual record stores. Kind of goes against the point and spirit of "record store day" to be pre-selling your so-called exclusive record store day record on the biggest undependent retailer of media goods in the world. In other words, typical. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:41am
You're right. Record Store Day provides us indie record store prowlers little nuggets that can only be purchased at such venues.
I've been scouring the 'net, looking all over to see what will be out that day. There's some cool stuff coming out. Can't wait. You do still have that shop in Asheville, right? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:54am Boomy wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:41am:
I went "rogue" a few years ago, Boomy. I still deal in used LPs and 45s locally and on the 'net, but my days of flattening my ass in bricks and mortar are in the past. For me, it's more fun to roam and scour than sit like a spider and wait for the pigeons to come home to roost. I loved the 15 or so years I spent owning that shop, but the day I sold the core inventory and got out my lease leash was profoundly awesome. But like any lone crapshooter I still play the field and follow the game. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:06pm
I totally hear/read you. I mean, I live in a city of a little over 250,000. We don't have a large downtown area, meaning we have some small record stores scattered throughout town. Really, it's only one owner that has three stores in town (used to be five but they closed two of them).
I'm like the only person in there when I go to the shop. I can honestly feel what you say because I always see the clerks just standing behind the counter, looking at his/her laptop or doing some homework or paperwork for the store. Last Friday I bought the new BRMC album right before the store closed. The guy at the counter wrote down the artist and album on a sheet of paper. It was listed under maybe four or five other titles, all in the same handwriting. There were some other titles scribbled above his list but it was another person's handwriting. What they do is keep track of what they sold (obviously for inventory and sales purposes). However, I was sad when I noticed that. This guy only had five albums sold on the shift. WTF? You go to Best Buy and one person is buying five albums...eer, I mean CD's and the guy/gal behind him is waiting in line. The thing is, the record store clerks are always willing to help me out and order things for me when they are out of something. I've always appreciated the knowledge and candor of record store employees, too. You can't get that at the big box stores. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 16th, 2010 at 2:53pm Looks like the 'All Down The Line' b-side from 'Plundered My Soul' will be from the remaster. My local indie has it listed for Record Store Day. Description: Don’t miss out on this soon to be collector’s item! This limited edition, individually numbered 7" single features the previously unreleased track "Plundered My Soul," an amazing recording from the EXILE ON MAIN STREET recording sessions, unavailable anywhere else! B-side features the incredible sounding, remastered version of "All Down The Line". Track List: Side A: Plundered My Soul (PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED) Side B: All Down The Line www.vvinyl.com/v/rolling-stones-plundered-my-soul/432 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 16th, 2010 at 4:43pm Boomy wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:06pm:
It's a holy and noble calling, but it's a young man's game. Much better to pass it on rather than turn into some withered sun-deprived bitter hoarder of other peoples' crap. Surreal Stones moment: At this very moment I'm at a coffee shop desperately trying to hit a deadline on a story about the gospel group the Singing Stars. Love Is Strong just came on over the sound system, which means it's on some 23 year old hipsters' Ipod. Win! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 16th, 2010 at 7:23pm
They are saying this is the best Stones release since Exile on Main Street.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Mar 16th, 2010 at 7:57pm
I think it will be fantastic.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:02pm
Fallon Features a Week of Stones Music
By Josef Adalian Published: March 16, 2010 Jimmy Fallon is hosting a weeklong "celebration" of the Rolling Stones' album “Exile on Main Street.” Beginning May 10 and lasting through the week, each “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” musical guest will perform a song from the original 18-track album. The re-issue of “Exile” will be available in the U.S. May 18. “We're very excited that ‘Late Night with Jimmy Fallon’ is devoting a special week to ‘Exile on Main Street’ with our new documentary ‘Stones In Exile’ premiering for the first time ever in the U.S. on Friday," said the Rolling Stones. Editors Note: A previously published version of this story erroneously stated that the Rolling Stones were performing for a week on "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon." Link - http://ow.ly/1n8DQ (includes Fallon video clip) www.thewrap.com ( Admin's Note - (((( :pullanolte ))))) ) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:08pm
"Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" is devoting its entire run during the week of May 10 to special shows saluting the Rolling Stones' iconic album "Exile on Main Street." That week, a host of major acts will perform covers of songs from "Exile," and that Friday's (May 14) episode will feature the premiere of a new documentary about the album's creation, "Stones in Exile."
Participating bands have yet to be officially announced, but they are expected to include some of rock's biggest names. It is also unknown if members of the Rolling Stones will be part of the celebration. Released in 1972, "Exile on Main Street" is infamous for its debaucherous recording sessions at Keith Richards' mansion in the south of France. The album spawned a host of instant Stones classics, including "Loving Cup," "Sweet Virginia," "Tumbling Dice," "Ventilator Blues," "Rocks Off" and "Torn and Frayed." "Exile" will be reissued on May 18 through Universal with 10 previously unreleased tracks from the original sessions, including "Following the River," "Plundered My Soul," "Pass the Wine" and "Dancing in the Light." A super deluxe edition includes the album on vinyl, a 30-minute DVD and a 50-page book with photos from the era. http://www.billboard.com/news/the-rolling-stones-exile-saluted-by-special-1004075859.story?tag=hpfeed#/news/the-rolling-stones-exile-saluted-by-special-1004075859.story?tag=hpfeed |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:12pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:47am:
plundered my hole........... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:10pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 7:23pm:
funny! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:01pm Gazza wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:08pm:
That ought to get an extra 4-5 viewers. Which is about 3-4 more than Fallon usually gets. ::) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:13pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 7:23pm:
... not Mick! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:25pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:47am:
Ha, the Stones have become part of rich mans game, but what can a poor boy do... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:23pm Gazza wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:08pm:
The 'Exile' hype machine is gaining steam. Fallon dropped a coupla broad hints that Mick and Keith will be appearing. Seems reasonable to assume that Phish will be one of the bands... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:44pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 9:36am:
I was thinking the exact same thing today. The only people interested and willing to put up silly money for this are precisely hard-core fans of the band AND of the band on VINYL. Your average "greatest hits" fan isn't going to buy this. They're pissing on/off the fans who have been jonesing for something like this for YEARS. NO ONE is gonna buy this box of bullshit. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:47am
Here is my take on all this...
I am not an audophile. I love the Stones. I have Exile and pretty much all the highly circulated bootleg material. I don't need a remastered Exile unless I can tell the difference (like you could with the Beatles ReMasters) on my present low tech sound system. Since I'm all digital I don't care about the 7"!! ;) I am not the "ultimate collector"-another term well known to many here is hoarder.... I AM interested in the "new" songs and the DVD material unless it is the same stuff I have and not worth the bother. (I'll wait for someone's review) I have worn out my Exile CD so I guess I can spring for that and the new songs.. I feel your pain, guys. But haven't we learned by now that you can't always get what you want.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:54am Gazza wrote on Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:08pm:
Fallon is the new king! He was Wicked Pissah in Fevah Pitch. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Mar 17th, 2010 at 7:25am PartyDoll MEG wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:47am:
I don't buy that PDM. For the last 5 (?) years it's more like you can't ever get what you want. In other words, you should have said, don't you know by now, (You Can't Get No) Satisfaction? And that, sadly, is because the one-time masters of releasing rock and roll product and producing live rock and roll shows are no longer capable of providing competent service to their devoted customer base. I keep thinking of this in terms of the sheer economics that Jagger is supposed to be such a ('scuse me) whizz at. How many potential C+ notes are going to go back into the wallets of people like me who will decide they don't need EXile DeluXe because the new material isn't on vinyl? A lot, I would imagine. Enough to offset the cost of pressing, mastering, and packaging that third LP? Well, you'd think so, especially considering that it's listing for anywhere from $30 to $100 more than the Ya Ya's set, which was also 3 LPs, a DVD, a book, and two CDs. So a potential revenue stream is replaced instead by a white elephant useful ONLY to hoarders who still have to have everything and say they're grateful to whatever product the band chooses to peddle. Rolling Stones Inc. is stupid. Mondo stupid to lose me as a customer for a fucking rerelease vinyl object. Incompetence of the highest commercial order. Somebody put this firm under new management. I would like to note, however, that I am still on board for the 7". |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Mar 17th, 2010 at 7:39am Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 7:25am:
Amen.... and Duly noted! I have serious doubts that these old fogies know or care about what their "machine" is doing. And after reading the Uncut article, me thinks Mick just can't be arsed (hmmmm ..where did that come from?)!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 17th, 2010 at 12:07pm Super Deluxe has been reduced @ amazon.com - now it's only $161.99. And their pre-order for the 'Plundered My Soul' 7" is no longer available... :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on Mar 17th, 2010 at 12:10pm
I preordered it
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:34pm
The Jimmy Fallon thing is cool if true, but who is going to know that stuff?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:39pm texile wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:34pm:
Meaning, fans of the show, other bands ... ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:56pm
'Charliessinger' posted this info over on the 'Tell Me' message board
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exile On Main Street Box Set with free unreleased track is available only to UK customers. This incredible Exile On Main Street Super Deluxe Boxset includes the re-released album on CD and with a bonus disc of 10 never- released tracks produced by Jimmy Miller, The Glimmer Twins and Don Was, a 64 page cloth finish collector's hardback book with photos from the Exile era, the double vinyl album in triple gatefold sleeve, a set of 4 postcards in an envelope, and a DVD containing excerpts from the documentary Stones In Exile, the legendary @#$%& Blues (filmed on the Stones 1972 tour of Exile) and Ladies and Gentlemen...The Rolling Stones. The Exile On Main Street Super Deluxe Boxset contains: Exile On Main Street on CD Bonus CD with 10 never-released tracks Exile On Main Street on double vinyl in triple gatefold sleeve 64-page collector's book 4 postcards Documentary DVD Free Unreleased Track The free track is only available to UK customers with a completed purchase of the Exile On Main Street Super Deluxe Boxset. The track is 'So Divine (Aladdin Story)'. This version has not been previously released. Qualifying customers will be sent an email 1 week prior to the release date. This email will contain instructions on how to obtain the track. No further information will be available beforehand. [store.universal-music.co.uk] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 17th, 2010 at 3:45pm
and an hour later this special UK only "free track" will all be over the net...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Jesus Christ on Mar 17th, 2010 at 3:57pm Honky Tonk Man wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:56pm:
FOUR postcards? There were TWELVE in the original album, weren't there? Yes, there were. Not that it matters much, but...WHY? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 17th, 2010 at 4:59pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 12:07pm:
seriously, this can't be good. If sales aren't good for this, that's all she wrote. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 17th, 2010 at 5:22pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 4:59pm:
cue aretha franklin......... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:41pm Honky Tonk Man wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:56pm:
Some bonus. 'So Divine' is one of the 10 new tracks. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:44pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 4:59pm:
Might have something to do with the Record Store Day "exclusive". |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 18th, 2010 at 8:00am Some Guy wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 4:59pm:
Sales? in todays music environment the Stones could be releasing the original Exile for the first time and I doubt it would crack the top 10. So how many of a remastered 30+ yr old album ya think they will sell at these prices? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 18th, 2010 at 8:04am
I hear the 10 new songs are worth $180.00 alone.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 18th, 2010 at 8:09am Some Guy wrote on Mar 18th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Of course we will buy what we're told..lol...but can't imagine even casual fans paying much. Now if these new tunes are great then perhpas sales will be better. If they were so great however why not on the original? We'll see but I am excited for this...and some warm freakin weather too huh SG? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Mar 18th, 2010 at 1:06pm
Nobody is gonna harsh my buzz over Exile. If there ever was an album I would buy for the sixth time, this would be the one.
The way to go is to get the regular deluxe 2CD (23.99 on Amazon), great. The old album will sound better, if it's anything like the number they did on Sticky Fingers, and hey, there's the new stuff...even if it would've been nice to fill out the CD. The video will be broadcast on television, and no doubt released on it's own in due time, or *cough cough* on torrent sites the next day. Problem solved, unless you're an obsessive collector, in which case you got yerself into this mess ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 18th, 2010 at 2:14pm polytoxic wrote on Mar 18th, 2010 at 1:06pm:
Exactly. A regular deluxe will work just fine for me. No super duper extra special deluxe needed. :warhorse |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 19th, 2010 at 8:48am Jimmy Fallon promoting 'Exile' week: www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2010/03/jimmy-announces-rolling-stones-week-on-late-night/ Wonder who rhymes with "Keith Richards"... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 19th, 2010 at 11:26am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 8:48am:
toby keith? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 19th, 2010 at 11:48am Fallon's obviously hinting at appearances by Mick and Keith. Maybe not on the same night, and maybe not even physically in studio. We'll see... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Mar 19th, 2010 at 11:43pm
Amazon now has it for $143.99
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Mar 20th, 2010 at 4:57am
And to think i dont particularly like Jimmy Fallon.
I do know! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 20th, 2010 at 9:41am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 8:48am:
they could def. get it together and play a song with just mick and keef. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:27pm FORMER STONE MICK TAYLOR ROCKS WITH SIR MICK JAGGER Mick Taylor and Mick Jagger in the good old days of the Rolling Stones MORE than 35 years after he left The Rolling Stones former guitarist Mick Taylor has been reunited in the studio with Sir Mick Jagger. Taylor, now 61, regarded by many fans as the group’s most technically gifted musician, replaced Brian Jones in 1969, shortly before the latter’s mysterious death. He quit the band five years later after falling out with Jagger and fellow Stone Keith Richards over songwriting credits. Now it’s emerged that Taylor was recently brought back into the fold to briefly work on a new re-mastered version of the group’s classic 1972 album Exile On Main Street, due to be released this May. Taylor arrived in the studio to provide “new guitar licks” on one of the songs, we hear. With current guitarist Ronnie Wood, who replaced Taylor in the Seventies, having suffered well-documented personal problems of late, there have been doubts the rocker will be in good enough shape to tour with the group again without the steadying influence of ex-wife Jo. This has prompted speculation that Taylor might be brought back into the line-up all these years on. However we are reliably told there is no prospect of him returning full-time. The Stones had been expected to tour in 2010 but announced in January that they would not perform this year. The now portly Taylor has also had health problems but has been playing with his own band recently, including gigs in Scotland. One promoter tells Day & Night: “He said he’d been in the studio with Mick Jagger. He was terrific on stage, although he looked like he was struggling a bit off it. But, boy, give him a guitar and he can still play.” Daily Express |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:49pm
With all this talk of Exile and Ladies and Gentleman and Ronnie being a mess I'm starting to sense that Taylor rejoining the band might actually be possible. But I do not think that he would be up for a very long tour with large spectacle type stages. He would need a major image makeover.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:50pm
Portly? thats kind of a prick shot. Imagine a mini tour later this year to support Ladies and Gents with Taylor? A 3 nighter at MSG? We can only dream huh....
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 20th, 2010 at 1:06pm Holden wrote on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:49pm:
The article notes "we are reliably told there is no prospect of him returning full-time." Reading between the lines, that doesn't preclude the possibility of some guest spots. And to his credit, lately Ronnie appears to have righted the ship. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Mar 20th, 2010 at 2:17pm Holden wrote on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:49pm:
I don't think any of them are... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Mar 20th, 2010 at 2:55pm According to contactmusic.com (in other words, take this with as many grains of salt as you wish): Jagger And Taylor Reunite In Studio SIR MICK JAGGER and former ROLLING STONES star MICK TAYLOR have reunited in the studio - 36 years after the guitarist left the group. Taylor joined the rockers in 1969, replacing Brian Jones in the line-up, but he left the group five years later in 1974 after allegedly falling out with Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards. But now the musician, who was replaced by Ronnie Wood in the 1970s, has reunited with Jagger - they reportedly headed into the studio to work on a new re-mastered version of the Stones' 1972 album Exile On Main Street. A source tells Britain's Daily Express that Taylor, who is currently touring the U.K., is providing "new guitar licks" to one of the songs on the album, adding: "He said he's been in the studio with Mick Jagger." The album is due to be released in May, 2010. Link: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jagger-and-taylor-reunite-in-studio_1136161 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 20th, 2010 at 3:14pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 20th, 2010 at 1:06pm:
i have an image of a heavy man, tilting a stage and ronnie being forced to self correct to prevent falling off it... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 20th, 2010 at 3:51pm
So Mick Taylor only played on one song and Mick J. was around, "Following the River" possibly since that's the one that got new lyrics. Last we'd heard Matt Clifford had visited Mick T. with some tapes.
Portly = Fat, right ? He certainly doesn't have the genes of Mick, Keith, Bill, Charlie and Ronnie, these guys are exceptions actualy, wonder how they do it ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Mar 21st, 2010 at 7:39am gimmekeef wrote on Mar 20th, 2010 at 12:50pm:
Nice dream. Add in a live feed to theaters around the nation and it gets better. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm gotdablouse wrote on Mar 20th, 2010 at 3:51pm:
He certainly has the talent as a better guitarist then Ronnie, in fact Ronnie ends up trying to imitate him when they play tracks from Taylor's era, maybe not in looks but certainly in talent. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by wiseblood on Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:11pm Heart Of Stone wrote on Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm:
Is Mick Taylor a better guitarist in 1974 than Ronnie was? Yes. Is Mick Taylor a better guitarist in 2010 than Ronnie is? Yes. Barely. And it pains me to say. I've heard Mick's recent shows and it kills me because it's just not what I like to hear him play like. I want to hear Mick Taylor from 1972. It's just not there anymore. But he does still smoke Ronnie so take that for what you will... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 21st, 2010 at 5:47pm
Well I'd take a portly Taylor over a behind the curtins Blondie anyday.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on Mar 21st, 2010 at 6:25pm wiseblood wrote on Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:11pm:
Yes. I agree. But what Ronnie has that Mick doesn't, is a very youthful rock n' roll spirit. And that spirit and presence is SO important in their live shows. Keith hasn't been playing very well, but he gets away with it simply because of his strong stage presence. I believe Keith said the same thing about Chuck Berry, actually. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on Mar 21st, 2010 at 7:05pm
For the 143 bucks on Amazon, they should include the ten new tracks on vinyl and the complete documentaries on DVD, not just shortened versions.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 21st, 2010 at 7:26pm
:forfucksake
wiseblood wrote on Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:11pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by macdaddy on Mar 21st, 2010 at 7:43pm Nasty Habits wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 7:25am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 21st, 2010 at 7:47pm The UK only track is misleading - 'So Divine' is getting e-mailed a week early to people that pre-order Super Deluxe. It's not an extra song. And the 'Plundered My Soul' 7" won't have an unreleased song either, as 'All Down The Line' is from the remaster. www.vvinyl.com/v/rolling-stones-plundered-my-soul/432 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 2:44pm
I hope its true about Mick T. - he's magic in any capacity....
MJ doesn't sound like MJ 72 either.....and in all honesty, MT in concert may be too much indulgence, like any great guitar virtuoso - with the stones, within the structure of a song, MT, I believe, still deliver. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 2:50pm
I don't want no keys to your loving sounding tripe.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 7:19pm
I'm actually looking more forward to the idea of MT working with MJ again than the "unreleased" songs....
This could really be news. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 7:52pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 2:50pm:
"Yeah, that's the word on the street ..." :) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 8:51am texile wrote on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 7:19pm:
Right on textile !! This is the big news in this story for me as well !!! And, I'm very happy that these two were able to get past old rifts. Hopefully Keith will too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 11:26am
I've been reading about this new Exile release for months, and I gotta admit I am confused about what exactly is being offered! The delux set, the super delux set, the new single, the Mick Taylor overdubs, UK vs US versions and one song not included on each, but which song, and how to get that, the new DVD, Ladies & Gents, Plundered my Soul, So Divine, and more. If I buy the super-deluxe set do I get everything? Or do I end up buying stuff twice just to get the unreleased music, or do I buy 2 or 3 different things? I really dont know what I 'need' to buy to get ALL the new stuff! I dont want to preorder because of the great price differences, I keep thinking they cant be the same product for a $50+ diff, and is it only available on line or will stores be carrying it? Advice needed in one post, please. As I go back to the different threads I get more confused about what everything is. Goofy post, my bad, I know, but I just cant wrap my head around all of this stuff, and I NEED the NEW stuff, not necessarily on vinyl because I have no turntable. Or should I just fvcking buy one already and play the damn records like we're back in the 70's? It seems obsolete, vinyls. Why do the RS want to put in on vinyl, to make money or the nostalgia value of the original release? I love the Stones. yes I do.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 11:36am Super Deluxe - 'Exile' remaster CD, 10 "new" songs CD, 'Exile' double LP, postcards, book and 'Stones In Exile' 30 minute DVD Deluxe - 'Exile' remaster CD, 10 "new" songs CD Standard - 'Exile' remaster CD only Vinyl - 'Exile' double LP The 10 previously unreleased "new" songs: 01. Loving Cup [Alternate Take] 02. Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) 03. I'm Not Signifying 04. Dancing In The Light 05. So Divine (Aladdin Story) 06. Soul Survivor [Alternate Take] 07. Following The River 08. Plundered My Soul 09. Good Time Women [Alternate Take (Tumbling Dice)] 10. Title 5 There is no bonus track included on the UK Super Deluxe. 'So Divine' is being e-mailed a week in advance to those that pre-ordered it. The 'Plundered My Soul' 7" does not have an unreleased b-side. 'All Down The Line' is from the remaster. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 11:38am Bitch wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 11:26am:
Yes we all do thats why we tend to lead with our wallets and hearts instead of our brains. I believe the deluxe edition being seen on Amazon for around $45 will give ou the remastered original and the new songs? That is my plan for now...Good luck! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 12:37pm gimmekeef wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 11:38am:
Yeah I think that's the best way to go. Just get the extra songs without all the expensive bells and whsitles. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 4:14pm
My reason for getting the super deluxe is the full 12x12 artwork, the LPs, and the book.
I'm hoping to pick it up @ Bestbuy for around $100 on 5/18. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:18pm
"Last week's "American Idol" featured selections from the Rolling Stones songbook, and SoundScan is reporting heavy increases for the band's hits collection "Hot Rocks 1964-71." Overall, sales of the album were up 79%, according to SoundScan, but some perspective. Though "Idol" hopefuls gave the Glimmer Twins' songs the grandest of karaoke stages, the Stones' hit set still failed to crack the top 200. The No. 200 album this week is Three Days Grace's "One-X," which sold a little more than 3,000 copies. "
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/03/on-the-charts-lady-antebellum-leads-in-anticipation-of-a-bieber-explosion.html :aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:17pm
I entered Plundered my Soul lyrics in my search bar and a download was up there, can it be downloaded. I didn't trust that site.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:29pm Soldatti wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:18pm:
Who under age 30 buys full albums anymore? Isn't the digital track sales figure the only one that really matters? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:40pm
we should hear some new songs early next month.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:45pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:40pm:
from da stones? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:45pm mojoman wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:45pm:
wouldn't you think? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:56pm Hopefully the single will find it's way onto radio (and the interwebs) prior to Record Store Day. And maybe Sirius/XM will bring back the Stones channel to hype the reissue... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:59pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:56pm:
my sources say MTV will debut the video on TRL. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Mar 25th, 2010 at 3:01pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 2:04pm:
dude where's my car? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:37am mojoman wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 3:01pm:
I have high friends in places. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Mar 26th, 2010 at 11:09am left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 11:36am:
THANK YOU for this, but if I just get the Deluxe set, can I buy the DVD seperately? Or is the super deluxe the only way to get the DVD? I dont need it, I just want to have it, lol. I dont have time to watch all the DVD's and read all the books I already have! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 26th, 2010 at 11:24am 'Stones In Exile' with "substantial bonus material" is being released separately. Photograph © Ethan Russell Eagle Rock Entertainment Gonna grab the Deluxe at Best Buy, and then get the expanded DVD in June. Figure that'll cost around $40 total... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 26th, 2010 at 1:04pm Bitch wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 11:09am:
The only real incentive for buying the Super Deluxe set is if you feel you HAVE to own the book that comes with it. Everything else (2-CD including bonus material + Double LP + DVD) can be bought separately and for a far cheaper total price. And, as said above, the version of the DVD that's being released separately (a few weeks later) will be twice as long as the version that's part of the package deal. You're effectively paying through the nose just for a 64-page book. Oh, and a few postcards. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 26th, 2010 at 1:09pm
I wonder if the black fellow with the baseballs in his mouth will be forced into another updated picture shoot for this?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mmdog on Mar 26th, 2010 at 4:33pm Soldatti wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:18pm:
Soldatti, Wouldn't the Stones be ineligible for the top 200 because all of their albums are over 2 years old? Or has that rule changed? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 26th, 2010 at 4:38pm
Surely that 'rule' wouldnt apply for an album thats been remastered and reissued?
Never heard of that rule before, but hasnt Michael Jackson's old albums been around the top of the charts since his death? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 26th, 2010 at 4:39pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 26th, 2010 at 5:35pm Gazza wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 1:04pm:
I think I'll go with 2 disc set and then buy the DVD seperate... I've got so many books and collectibles, that are just things... I'm at the point in life, my kids aren't going to want this stuff and I'm not re-selling it later... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 26th, 2010 at 6:17pm
Me too. 2-CD version, will record the 'Stones in Exile' off the TV and will buy the DVD when its out but thats it.
I probably wouldnt look at the book more than a couple of times (likewise with the Dylan 'Tell Tale Signs' one), and I already own two vinyl copies of the album (Gottorollme generously sent me her original a couple of years ago, with postcards) - and my ears ain't getting any better! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Teiz on Mar 26th, 2010 at 6:30pm
I´m gonna purchase the big box. Shitload of cash, but I´m celebrating the greatest record of all time. I go easy on the deluxe packages most of the time. Not this one though: it's the album I've been worshipping for 20 years now, and it still gets better with every spin.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:09pm
God bless you Tiez... I'm like Gaz, I got a vinyl copy from Mary and would probably look at the book once or twice...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Teiz on Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:25pm
It's weird. I buy one or two discs a week, and some albums got more spinning time over a short period, but for me it all begins and ends with Exile. So I almost feel I owe it to Exile and the Stones to buy the big box, because of the joy the record gave me over the years and will continue to give me for the rest of my life.
I'm still in the market for an original with the cards. Lost a bid on the web once or twice, but that's it. what pissed me off is that I missed the Exile On Main St Blues flex-record because I was away from the web for a weekend. Someone went ONE fucken euro further than I did. Still, it feels good to be hunting for some of the goods. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:43pm mmdog wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 4:33pm:
The rule changed in November 2009, so 2+ years old albums could be on the main chart again by first time since 1991 when that ridiculous "catalog" chart was included. I checked the sales last week and no Stones album sold over 3,000 copies with Jump Back being the best seller with 2,200 copies, Hot Rocks scaned 1,800 copies. The audience of "Idol" was of 23 million viewers... :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 27th, 2010 at 10:20am Pdog wrote on Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:09pm:
She sent YOU one as well? Whats goin' on, here? 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Mar 27th, 2010 at 10:43am
I might go for the 'luxury' set on the basis that I haven't - concerts aside - spoilt myself Stones-wise. It would be nice to have something to show for my faanship.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Mar 27th, 2010 at 10:44am Gazza wrote on Mar 27th, 2010 at 10:20am:
She hasn't sent me one, yet. What's going on here? ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Mar 27th, 2010 at 11:18am
OK! I will get the deluxe CD set, the longer DVD when it comes out, and eventually I think that book will show up on RS.com for sale too. If not I can live without another RS book. The NEW music is the MAIN thing! I cant wait to crack that CD case open and blast it as loud as I can on surround sound! We waited a long time for these gems, and the bonus for me is the 'enhanced' Mick Taylor song ~ uh, which song is it, do we know that yet?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Mar 27th, 2010 at 11:22am
Here's what I'd like to know: will the DVD included with the the boxset include anything - Cocksuker Blues and Ladies and Gentlemen segments aside - that will not be featured in the forthcomg television documentary?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:07am Honky Tonk Man wrote on Mar 27th, 2010 at 10:43am:
Theres nothing quite like an empty wallet to prove your fanship.......Ive been Colhed cocked a few times myself....... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Mar 28th, 2010 at 4:29am
I might wait a few weeks after release and get it from the bargain bin
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:21pm Semi-OT: Phish will be releasing a 3D movie next month, filmed at last fall's three-day Festival 8. Some of their Halloween performance of 'Exile' is included - www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpJOlRokQ_E Mentioned it previously, but imo they're a very good bet to be one of the 'Exile Week' guests on "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon". Gov't Mule is another... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:33pm Bitch wrote on Mar 27th, 2010 at 11:18am:
I think he's on more than one. Probably on 'Plundered my soul' for sure, as thats the one (I think) that Jagger did a new vocal for. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:40pm
Nope, according to the RS interview, the one with the new vocal is "Following the River"
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:42pm Gazza wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:33pm:
Daily Express reported last week that MT played on one song. Hope it's more... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:42pm
Thats it, yes. Its hard to keep up.
Especially when we're talking about songs none of us have heard. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 28th, 2010 at 2:43pm Gazza wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 12:42pm:
but we will... it's going to be so amzing. God, I hope they go for Some Girls... I'm ready for that to happen... 78 tour footage on DVD... must do other things to kill time!!! I got warm fuzzies for this. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 28th, 2010 at 2:59pm Man, there's so much great 'Some Girls' stuff already... A DVD of the complete Ft. Worth show that matches the quality of the 'Handsome Girls' audio would be nice, though. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:14pm
:interestingstuffronnie
Pdog wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 2:43pm:
Let's hope so, I still have a hard time believing they passed on gems for Exile...maybe good stuff that didn't fit the mood ? Dunno, never really got over the disastrous new "songs" from the "great" (according to Keith) 2002 Suresnes sessions they used to push "Four Flicks". I'll name one : "Extreme Western Grip", I'd be surprised whether anyone else can name the other one without looking it up! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:22pm
Well, well.
I think when we heard those two 'song' titles, we should have known that it didnt augur well for them being anything more than a couple of 'doodles' ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:25pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 2:59pm:
the Fort Worth show was filmed - in full - for a planned 1978 concert movie with the highly original title of 'Ladies & Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones' (the 3rd time they'd used that title as the Marquee show uses it as well). Only 28 minutes of it (the first six songs or so) has ever circulated, and I've never seen it (or heard of anyone having it) in particularly good quality. There are better shows from this tour, performance wise, but a DVD of that one would do very nicely indeed. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:37pm
Jump on Top of Me?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:37pm Gazza wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:25pm:
Yeah, I've got those 6 songs from Ft. Worth. Somebody has the complete show somewhere. One of my favorite '78 shows is from the Capitol Theatre in NJ. The Capitol had B & W video screens, and there've been boots of Springsteen, Grateful Dead and The Clash circulating for years. Don't know if they used them for the Stones, but I'd love to see it if they did... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Mar 28th, 2010 at 10:07pm
I'm a little bit confused here with the number of pages of the editions. The Japanese version apparently will have a 92-page booklet, the British version 64 and the US version only 50. Is this a mistake or is for real?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Mar 29th, 2010 at 1:03pm
Amazon is down to $119.99!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 29th, 2010 at 3:48pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
I often wondered if there was more than one audio reel for this show, since the one circulating was the one stolen during SFM... such a good show. Even though there's a good seque with the encore, they were on fire during that show and that song... my heart drops everytime I listen and the tape cuts and switches to aud. version. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 29th, 2010 at 4:19pm
Not sure what you mean - unless you mean one thats in the Stones' archives and the one that the sound guy ripped from the mixing desk.
As the story has it, he was on the verge of being 'caught' and he had to bail out and pull the tape out mid-song. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 29th, 2010 at 4:20pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Mar 28th, 2010 at 10:07pm:
Maybe the Japanese version has the text in Japanese and English? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 29th, 2010 at 5:11pm Gazza wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 4:19pm:
Story I've always heard was that a fan stole the tape. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 29th, 2010 at 5:42pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 5:11pm:
not sure what the story is, heard dif. versions... it was def. an inside job to a certain extent, friend of friend or employee, someone had access... my question is, is there another copy, the band would've had or did the only have one reel recording? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 29th, 2010 at 5:48pm Soundboards were using cassette decks by then, not reel to reel. Much easier to steal... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 29th, 2010 at 5:50pm
There would be a copy in the band's archives, as they have recorded every show theyve done since around the early 70s at least - apparently the Stu tribute was the exception, because there were specific instructions that it wasnt recorded, although having said that I've read rumours that it actually was.
Kinda makes you wonder whats the point of having an archive of about 1,000 shows if they're sitting in a warehouse gathering dust and probably eroding. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Mar 29th, 2010 at 6:01pm Gazza wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 5:50pm:
i remember leaving the fresno, ca show, and the limo next to me had the show that just happened playing on the tv... my jaw dropped, as i was thinknig, who is in this limo next to me... my first thought was, i wouldn't be surprised if they want to see what they just did and how they played. In that regards, the archive probably got started for that purpose, but you never know, maybe in the back of someones mind, they said, we can release this one day.... although, there it all sits. After al egal wranglings aside, and everyone got their cut, there's money to be made, with very little effort to be put forth. Especially if they hired an archiver... Some mastering and what not, boom.... so many would sell, just as souvenirs, if not the crazies like us, who would gobble up stuff.... I have almost every 1981 show... and it is the same show every night practically... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 29th, 2010 at 6:16pm Most - if not all - bands records their shows. It's easy enough to do. I've seen CD's getting popped out of decks after Dylan and Springsteen shows. Whether they intend to listen to it, archive it or release it, at least they've got it... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by RS_Chick92 on Mar 29th, 2010 at 7:20pm SHIT! :aimama I should have seen this and now it's the end of the month tommorrow! OMG! Now I can't sleep. As soon as the corner shop doors open at 7 o'clock in the morning, I'll need be running round there straight from bed in just my knickers and converse! :forfucksake |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 29th, 2010 at 9:54pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 6:16pm:
Well I think the wave of the future is bands releasing every show they play live. Their are some who do it now. The hell with releasing a live tour cd. The ultimate concert souvenier is having a recording of the show you were just at. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 29th, 2010 at 11:56pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Mar 30th, 2010 at 6:33am Alma Wade wrote on Mar 29th, 2010 at 7:20pm:
I had to look up what you meant by 'Converse'. I didnt realise it was 'trainers'! Dont catch the cold! The new issue of UNCUT has already been mailed out (got mine yesterday), so its usually in the shops a couple of days later. You might just be lucky to get the April issue on time - or else you could order back issues. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by RS_Chick92 on Mar 30th, 2010 at 6:46am
Phew! :whatapostronnie
I'll try again tommorrow. The perverted shopkeeper loves an encore. :kissmyass ...And I did catch a cold. :sad |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 30th, 2010 at 6:59am
I'm confused, is this the upcoming UNCUT issue or the previous one (talk about ordering backcopies) but then I don't remember it being mentioned here. Did they just reuse the RS interviews that were posted here, seems odd for "exclusive interviews".
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Mar 30th, 2010 at 7:08am Previous (April) issue, with different interviews than RS. There are quotes several pages back in this thread. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Mar 30th, 2010 at 8:20am
Thanks, I must have been sleeping under a rock at the time (actually I was skiing in the Alps [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]) caught up with all the good stuff that was posted and put that in my little 201003_Stones_Exile_Newsongs.txt file..I'll probably never go back to ;-)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Mar 31st, 2010 at 8:06am
I'm ready for some new tunes!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:29pm
I'm just ready for whole fuckin' thing to be out.
48 days and counting. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:41pm
I'm playing Exile On Main St Revisited, the Mickboy remaster daily...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:47pm Nellcote wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:41pm:
You haven't floated away yet Nellie? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 2:51pm
It is indeed all around us.
We are very fortunate to not have issues at this time. Right where we were last summah is a very different story. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 31st, 2010 at 3:46pm Nellcote wrote on Mar 31st, 2010 at 2:51pm:
Glad to hear it. Crank up Exile real loud and stay dry. :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Apr 2nd, 2010 at 10:39pm
1 of my strongest beliefs/opinions is that as digital downloads become more popular, and hence, cheaper to distribute, there will come a time when EVERY concert is available. Sure, it happens to an extent now, but i can see a time when every ticket will contatin that nights show available as a download using a code - say, the barcode.
And i am certain all the old shows of the Stones and every other act will also be available. We are only at the beginning of the next wave. The day will come when i will be able to get a authorised show of what i want. Which would be all the Stones Aussie tours from 73 on. Though perhaps the 73 shows might be a bit worse for wear. Some one some where must employed by the Stones has to be doing something to digitalise all the massive archive stuff. I mean, what do people do in-between tours? My belief in the future is that as the market shrinks for this band and many, many others, the only available way to extend income is to make it ALL available. As albums die out, you will see it happen more and more. See, think of it this way. There is no real money for the band for "Rarities" - not the shit they put out anyway! lol But what i mean is, cd wise. Packaging & distribution defeat the purpose, unless some company is willing to take a loss. But with on-request-downloads, whats the cost apart from royalties? And there is another potentially wonderful part. Record companies are not required! The game is changing forever and to not realise it (either us or the bands i mean) is to lose out on a much wider financial stream. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 9:15am Release Date: Jun 14 2010 In the spring of 1971 the Rolling Stones departed the UK to take up residence in France as tax exiles. Keith Richards settled at a villa called Nellcôte in Villefranche-sur-Mer and this became the venue for the recording of much of the band's masterpiece 'Exile On Main Street'. 'Stones In Exile' tells the story in the band's own words and through extensive archive footage of their time away from England and the creation of this extraordinary double album, which many regard as the Rolling Stones’ finest achievement. Extensive additional footage including interviews with all the band members, footage from 'Cocksucker Blues' and Mick Jagger and Charlie Watts returning to Olympic Studios and Jagger's country house Stargroves where a lot of the early work on the album was done. Additional contributions from: Martin Scorsese, Jack White, Don Was, Caleb Followill (Kings Of Leon), Benicio Del Toro, Will.I.Am (Black Eyed Peas), Sheryl Crow, Anita Pallenberg, Ronnie Wood, producer Jimmy Miller, engineer Andy Johns, photographer Dominique Tarlé and sax player Bobby Keys. Running Time: 151 mins approx recordstore.co.uk 2 hours longer than the version included with Super Deluxe... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 2:49pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 9:15am:
Fuck Me Pink! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 3:06pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 9:15am:
Hot Damn! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 3:10pm Gazza wrote on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 2:49pm:
MAJOR TINGLE!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by moy on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 3:12pm
Lisa Robinson discusses a classic with Keith Richards and Mick Jagger in the new (April) issue of Vanity Fair
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/toc/contents-201004 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 3rd, 2010 at 10:19pm
Fvck me pink too! ;D
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 4th, 2010 at 2:20pm
Wow, fuck me pinker.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 4th, 2010 at 2:48pm UK Record Store Day notes that the 'Plundered My Soul' 7" will be a limited edition of 1000. No mention of that on US Record Store Day, but it does say that the single will be "hand numbered". |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 4th, 2010 at 9:55pm
Only 44 days to go.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Apr 5th, 2010 at 2:43am
What on Earth has Will.I.AM got to say?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 6th, 2010 at 8:41am Keith Urban has been confirmed for 'Exile Week' on "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon". He'll be performing on May 11th. Late Night With Jimmy Fallon |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 6th, 2010 at 8:49am
Well, okay ... that doesn't excite me a whole lot.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 6th, 2010 at 9:08am
Well if he brings Alicia Keyes it might not be so bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aeWdTbjbx8
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 6th, 2010 at 9:11am
I could see them doing a bang-up job on "All Down the Line."
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Apr 6th, 2010 at 9:37am
Keith Urban can rock the house and he will do a great job with the Stones! :willya
I'd prefer a guitar number like "All down the Line" or " Soul Survivor", but he could surprise us and go to the Piano-which he does very well I must say. I like Urban and Exile IS his cup of tea...or should I say Loving Cup... You lucky folks! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 6th, 2010 at 9:44am 'Happy' is right in his wheelhouse... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:18pm
Has a new tune leaked out yet?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 6th, 2010 at 6:15pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:18pm:
i've been leaking non-stop. My leg is moist. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 6th, 2010 at 8:56pm
I'm downright hot and bothered.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Apr 7th, 2010 at 2:09am PartyDoll MEG wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 9:37am:
I've seen Keith Urban do a killer version of Gimme Shelter live. He can rock it. :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 7th, 2010 at 6:12am
The new song is released next week. I'm ready to hear a leak!
If we can put a man on the moon, I can hear a new Stones leak! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 7th, 2010 at 6:50am Stones YouTube Channel has posted an 'Exile' promo - www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXWizpp_KOM |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 7th, 2010 at 7:07am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 7th, 2010 at 6:50am:
well allright! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 7th, 2010 at 8:29am
Would be better with a snippet from a "new" track !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 7th, 2010 at 10:14am gotdablouse wrote on Apr 7th, 2010 at 8:29am:
it's time, let's do the damn thing. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 7th, 2010 at 1:33pm
I first saw Keith Urban do a killer version of Elvin Bishop's "Fooled Around..." on the Grammys tribute to southern rock.
Then I saw him presenting an award on the Country Music Awards and was like..WTF?! He's Australian! He can play that tele. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 7th, 2010 at 3:00pm
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/04/07/rolling-stones-plan-plundered-my-soul-single-for-record-store-day/
Rolling Stones Plan “Plundered My Soul” Single for Record Store Day 4/7/10, 3:32 pm EST The Greatest Rock & Roll Band in the World will lend support to independent music stores next week: The Rolling Stones are releasing a limited edition 7” single featuring a previously unreleased track from the upcoming Exile on Main St. reissue on Record Store Day, April 17th. “Plundered My Soul,” the first single to be featured off the Exile reissue, will be backed by the remastered album track “All Down the Line” on the single, which will be individually numbered for avid Stones collectors. A week later, “Plundered My Soul” will hit radio stations across the nation, leading up to the Exile reissue release on May 18th. A music video for “Plundered” is also in the works. “Plundered My Soul” is just one of 10 tracks unearthed by the Rolling Stones and producer Don Was for the Exile reissue. “Well, basically it’s the record and a few tracks we found when we were plundering the vaults,” Keith Richard told Rolling Stone. “Listening back to everything we said, ‘Well, this would be an interesting addition.’” Other rediscovered highlights include the horn-fueled “Pass the Wine,” the instrumental “Aladdin’s Story” and an early version of “Tumbling Dice” called “Good Time Women.” The Exile reissue will also feature the original album completely digitally remastered. Sonic Youth, Modest Mouse, Devo, R.E.M., Soundgarden, Pavement and Them Crooked Vultures are also slated to contribute exclusive releases to Record Store Day’s efforts. Also, the Beastie Boys have revealed plans to unveil a secret 7” white label single to mark the occasion with a limited run of 1,000. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 7th, 2010 at 3:13pm
Is Plundered the one with the new vocal?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 7th, 2010 at 3:21pm Mick wrote and recorded lyrics for 'Following The River'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 7th, 2010 at 9:51pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 7th, 2010 at 3:00pm:
we should hear PMS soon on youtube, no? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by luxury on Apr 8th, 2010 at 5:41am
Record Store Day? But there are no more record stores!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 8th, 2010 at 7:27am There's not as many as there used to be, but thankfully lots of great stores are still alive and well. Here's a llnk to those participating on Record Store Day - www.recordstoreday.com/Venues |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by wiseblood on Apr 8th, 2010 at 9:19am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 7th, 2010 at 6:50am:
and it sucks... too short and are you telling me the visuals couldn't have been better? come on. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:29am Beatweek says they've heard 'Plundered My Soul', and describe it as "a funky mid-tempo number accompanied by a bari sax and female backing vocals." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Apr 8th, 2010 at 11:26am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 8th, 2010 at 10:29am:
[Editor's note: we've heard the new song, and it's good stuff, very 1972-ish]. (from the above article) Sounds good so far................. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 8th, 2010 at 5:31pm Vintage Vinyl is marking the reissue with an Exile On Main Street Tribute on May 22nd. Some of their previous in-stores have been pretty good. Look forward to seeing who plays what... www.vvinyl.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 8th, 2010 at 9:32pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 8th, 2010 at 7:27am:
Cool, Amoeba records here I come. :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 9th, 2010 at 1:57pm French fan site sympathyforthedevils.com has posted a picture of the 'Plundered My Soul' 7" label. Credits on the track: Vocals, guitar, percussion: Mick Jagger Guitar: Keith Richards Drums: Charlie Watts Bass: Bill Wyman Piano: Nicky Hopkins Guitar: Mick Taylor Saxophone: Bobby Keys Vocals: Lisa Fischer & Cindy Mizelle Produced by Jimmy Miller, Don Was and The Glimmer Twins. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:59pm
Based on the sample I just heard these "Outtakes" should say: Inspired by the Exile On Main St era.
Maybe I'm in a sullen mood, but I'm looking forward to be a little let down by this project. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by luxury on Apr 10th, 2010 at 6:22am
we're supposed to be fans, and all we do is complain!
New music is new music. I'm looking forward to checkin it out. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:47am Agree. There'll be plenty of time to dissect everything after it's been released... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:08am buddhabone wrote on Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:59pm:
So you have actually heard something from the re master release? spill the beans then please! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:17am There's a 30 second snippet of 'Plundered My Soul' in advance of the single release. You can hear it @ amazon.co.uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:57am
I heard the sample only.
I guess I should hold my judgment for the actual release. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by dadrob on Apr 10th, 2010 at 11:39am
yuck the sample is very current sounding.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by open-g on Apr 10th, 2010 at 12:12pm
I merged two different versions of the snippet to a 44 seconds one.
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/3199340368/Plundered_Merged.mp3 hope it still works |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 10th, 2010 at 2:46pm Nicely done, open-g. Thanks! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:22pm
That little 30 sec snizzbit is very good! I like it. Are those new vocals? Sounds like the Stones should.
been waiting since '81 for this stuff... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:38pm Definitely new vocals. And Mick Taylor, loud and proud... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:39pm
I'm waiting to be impressed.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:50pm
can someone post the words, I don't get one part.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:56pm "...and I soon discovered that you're gone for good. My indiscretions made a bad impression, yes I was misunderstood. I thought you needed my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul..." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 10th, 2010 at 8:29pm
I'm impressed, it's not too bad, has sort of a Tumbling Dice groove to it, just wondering how much of the original recording is still there, because it sounds so slick and clean, definitely a modern vocal job by Jagger
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by exile on Apr 11th, 2010 at 6:18am
Hi there, been a while since I have posted but pretty excited about the upcoming release.
I’m a little confused as probably many of us are. Im thinking of buying the “EXILE ON MAIN STREET – REMASTERED (SUPER DELUXE EDITION)”. With the booklet, DVD, and vinyl. Am I right in assuming the DVD is only the making of the Documentary? And that the actual Documentary is much longer? And does anyone know when the proper DVD is being released? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 11th, 2010 at 7:20am Welcome aboard. Don't know if the 30 minute DVD with Super Deluxe is just a "making of", but the separate release of 'Stones In Exile' will be considerably longer... Release Date: Jun 14 2010 Running Time: 151 mins approx recordstore.co.uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 11th, 2010 at 8:07pm
I never thought I could be this happy
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 11th, 2010 at 8:10pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:17am:
that's Super Deluxe Edition with 2dvds and a book postin' |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:27am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:17am:
Sounds incredible to me. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Plundered Soul on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:38am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:56pm:
and here is Mick Taylor answer to Mick'n'Keith http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IF8V28NV |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:48am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 10th, 2010 at 10:17am:
Very cool! I love the song! It does sound like MICK's vocals are recent, and not old. His voice was softer then. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:02am Gimme Shelter wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:27am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 12th, 2010 at 8:05am
i decided to bite and just pre-order 2 cd set with amazon... i needed humidifier filters too.... oh man, when did i become this dude... there was a time, i would've been at the store day of release wasted out of my skull...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 12th, 2010 at 8:12am Pdog wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 8:05am:
call the baby sitter, install the filters and do it man |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:44am Plundered Soul wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:38am:
Jeez, did they stiff him on a byline again?! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:55am
How recent is that clip?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:58am Mel Belli wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:44am:
what is it? I can't play it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Zack on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:00am
Maybe this is the Tattoo You II some have been dreaming about . . .
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:02am Zack wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:00am:
The Stones have been pacing themselves... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:10am Some Guy wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:58am:
It's a live MT blues about a b*tch who steals money and plunders souls. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:46am Mel Belli wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:10am:
Anyone we know? :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Plundered Soul on Apr 12th, 2010 at 12:04pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 10:46am:
It's a MT blues released some 10 years ago, called "Late At Night". It is now dedicated to uncle Mick and Uncle Keith. It was recorded last saturday, april 10-2010. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 12th, 2010 at 12:47pm
Each passing days makes this release more strange and kind of sad.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:18pm
Let's not overstate things, bb. The two songs are utterly unlike each other in every respect save for those lyrics, which were probably "plundered" more or less by a Dead Black Man.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:27pm Those lyrics aren't in MT's original version of 'Late At Night'. He probably tossed them in the other night as a nod to to the new single... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:31pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 10th, 2010 at 7:38pm:
yep, I was expecting to be unimpressed, but from this little snippet, it sounds good. Jagger's vocals are definately new, but not as mannered as I would have suspected..... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:38pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:59pm:
I was too. Believe me, the thought of Jagger trying to sound like Jagger circa 71 etc....was depressing and i was pissed at the audacity of it...but this snippet, while obviously new vocally, is good, so far. SOunds like Jagger really trying to get into the feel, mindset of Exile. If anything, it may not be a "true, pure, outtake, but its a great example of what the Stones can still do at sixty-something. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:50pm Bitch wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:48am:
Short and sound is crap so I'll reserve judgement but this doesn't very interesting, new vocal obviously, and that guitar line sounds new too, the type of single note doodle Keith plays these days. Reminds me of something I can't quite place at this point...an old Beatles song by John, let's see...that's it "I call your name"...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LnR6GX-Re8 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:00pm
I'm gonna make a foolhardy prediction: Jagger and Taylor will play "Plundered" with the Roots on the Fallon show.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:01pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 1:50pm:
Don't hear a Fabs influence at all. Reminds me of 'Tumbling Dice'... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:05pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:01pm:
And it definitely ain't Keith-style noodling. MT all the way... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:07pm
I'm not even listening to this song with the thought of it being anything other than Jagger revisiting Exile. I'm fairly convinced very little of these songs are pure in their orginal Exile form.
To me, it may as well be the new stones we've been waiting for... Jagger he's been "living with Exile" for the last few months. Maybe this really is a revisitation. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:27pm
My mistake was to think it was going to be fully exile styled (...which is impossible to to do circa 2010)
The groove is good once you dig it for what it is. I'll buy it April 16. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:44pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:27pm:
That's how I've been trying to approach it. I must have been crazy to think that there were really "lost tracks" from Exile......, like finding a "lost" book of the bible. But listening to the snippet as it is, it sounds like what I would have wanted a "new" stones song to sound like. Maybe having Exile as his guide was a good thing for Jagger. He has always dismissed Exile, just to be contrary, I suspect because that's what he does. But apparently, he has been really delving into the spirit of that time, those songs etc......maybe finally seeing in Exile what most of us always knew and its given him a new appreciation of it. But yes, it should be presented as 'songs inspired by..... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:11pm They're songs from... Some of 'em may have needed more polishing than others, but they aren't "new". |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:17pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:11pm:
But if I think of them as not "new", I'll be distracted by the Was-esque polish and Jagger's new vocals.....so I'd rather take them as something-old, something-new........ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:20pm You're assuming that Jagger recorded new vocals for every song. All reports indicate that's not the case. Me, I'm just gonna take 'em... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:27pm
We all are, better than nothing !
Ah doesn't it sound a bit like "Stealing my Heart" too, one of the tracks the Stones deemed worthy enough to be on Forty Licks back in 2002 ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:33pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:20pm:
Jagger added new vocals, possibly lyrics to Plundered and Following the River appears to be an entirely new song, but I'll take them too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:41pm From Rolling Stone: Tell me about "Following The River." That's a brand new vocal, right? MJ: I just started from nothing on that. The core tape of it was the piano and the drums, bass, and guitar. There was no top line or lyric. I started from scratch — I mean, that's what I do, and I've done it many times before. And it's daunting in the beginning, but after a while you get into it. So how do you go about writing lyrics? You just sit down and write it as you would anything else, you know? Sometimes you write the lyrics while you're sitting down playing the piano or guitar, and the lyrics come to you while you're writing the song. And sometimes you write the melody first and you have to write all the lyrics. And sometimes you get half the lyrics. And sometimes there's a track that you didn't turn up on the session. And they say, "Mick, we've done this great track. Will you write the words?" And that was this one. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:07pm
I liked what I heard of Plundered, but I just don't get the concept of "adding" shit to previously declared "discovered" tracks.
Its like finding the third tablet of the 10 commandments and having Joel Osteen "adding" some new stuff......... Exile is untouchable and I would have been fine with the tracks releasable. If they were instrumentals, fine. But why go in and try to write new lyrics and new vocals. Yeah, alot of fans will be happy just to hear this stuff and myself? I'm curious, but cautious. I don't like the idea of Don Was being part of Exile period. LIsa Fischer...etc.... Exile is Exile. It was recorded in the summer of 71, before or whatever. Now, we've Don Was credited alongside Jimmy Miller. Yeah, I'm a purist. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:14pm 'Exile' will remain 'Exile'. The other 10 songs are a lagniappe. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:14pm
Yes, this is sickening, Jimmy Miller was the Stones at their zenith, Don Was is the Stones at their nadir, not that it's entirely his fault but he's certainly not pushed them to do any better. Case in point when he played "She saw me coming", or whatever that horrible song on ABB was called, to someone here who was lurking around the studios and didn't realize it would make him miserable for the rest of his life ;-)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:29pm
I like it more
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:19pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
Yeah, it bugs the shit of me that his name is alongside Jimmy Miller....that's enough of a turn-off to me to be leery. This guy has brought nothing to the Stones legacy but crap. Maybe he isn't all to blame, but he is a horrible indication of what the Stones are now. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:42pm If it's any consolation, everything I've read about Don Was' involvement in this project is with the 10 "new" songs. The talk of new vocals, etc. is about those songs. The remastering of 'Exile' proper was done - as were the previous Stones UMG remasters - by Marcussen Mastering. I'd guess that Jimmy Miller won't be sharing a producer's credit on that... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:42pm corgi37 wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 2:43am:
I don't what he has to say about Exile, but this was my indication that the Peas were Stones fans.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzIO4fUsrp4 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 12th, 2010 at 8:19pm
No doubt Mick would approve.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by keefchik on Apr 13th, 2010 at 2:41pm
im sorry i dont have time to read this whole thread, i just wanna know, what is on the DVD, is it worth buying for that???
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 13th, 2010 at 2:48pm 'Stones In Exile' is being released separately, and is 2 hours longer than the version included with Super Deluxe. Release Date: Jun 14 2010 Running Time: 151 mins approx In the spring of 1971 the Rolling Stones departed the UK to take up residence in France as tax exiles. Keith Richards settled at a villa called Nellcôte in Villefranche-sur-Mer and this became the venue for the recording of much of the band's masterpiece 'Exile On Main Street'. 'Stones In Exile' tells the story in the band's own words and through extensive archive footage of their time away from England and the creation of this extraordinary double album, which many regard as the Rolling Stones’ finest achievement. Extensive additional footage including interviews with all the band members, footage from 'Cocksucker Blues' and Mick Jagger and Charlie Watts returning to Olympic Studios and Jagger's country house Stargroves where a lot of the early work on the album was done. Additional contributions from: Martin Scorsese, Jack White, Don Was, Caleb Followill (Kings Of Leon), Benicio Del Toro, Will.I.Am (Black Eyed Peas), Sheryl Crow, Anita Pallenberg, Ronnie Wood, producer Jimmy Miller, engineer Andy Johns, photographer Dominique Tarlé and sax player Bobby Keys. recordstore.co.uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Apr 13th, 2010 at 4:46pm texile wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:33pm:
I know, it's only overdubbed, but I like it. Like it. Yes I do. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 13th, 2010 at 8:56pm
I am fucking ready
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 13th, 2010 at 10:19pm
Me fucking too.
3 days till Plundered drops. 35 till the big one is here. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:59am
I just love how that guitar fades out at the end but you really know it keeps going.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 14th, 2010 at 12:34pm keefchik wrote on Apr 13th, 2010 at 2:41pm:
It was reported earlier that the documentary is supposed to air on TV sometime after it's released, I'd recommend holding onto your coin and see if this turns out to be the case |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 14th, 2010 at 2:05pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:59am:
You mean MT on the Plundered snippet? Yeah, kind of like the fade in Sway, Rocks Off.... MT always left you leaning into the speakers when the song was over.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 14th, 2010 at 2:11pm texile wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 2:05pm:
:smilemick :wow |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 14th, 2010 at 3:10pm
just played it again and it sounds even better
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:50am
Has the song been played? another web site is saying they heard it. Do we have the technology to post it here? I wanna hear it now!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:59am Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:50am:
i just hope someone does a needle drop of the single and posts it on demonoid this weekend. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:13am Pdog wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Rather surprising it hasn't leaked in some form yet. But once it's officially released it won't take long for it to pop up on the internet. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:20am Link posted @ iorr to a radio station that debuted 'Plundered My Soul' today - http://classic21.radio.fr They've played it a coupla times already. Good stuff... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:36am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:20am:
can you give me the gist of it- I'm a very busy man. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:51am
looks like I just missed it according to the songs played list.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:14am
Just called 'zlx in Bahston. He says the label will send it tomorrow, however, when
I told him it's being played in Europe he said he would hunt around for it....Here's hoping it will be found.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:36am
I will be in seclusion with the radio link posted- I think it's getting close.
Classic 21 is pretty good. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:43am
Agreed. Any station which still plays "Airport" by the Motors is fine with me.
A former "Big Mattress Song Of The Week", for those who recall WBCN.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by vox12string on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:45am
You've got PM Some Guy
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:47am vox12string wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:45am:
cool- thanks so much- how do I make it work? Thanks again! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:53am
I think they are playing it soon- I don't understand all she says- but I heard her say Rolling Stones Plundered My Soul!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:56am
Agreed. Probably in the next 20 min, as it will be just after 5P
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:58am Nellcote wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:56am:
I'm like a fifteen year old sitting by my radio!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:01am
tune in to the link, it's about to go down!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:02am
Yes, I recall in '74 sitting in a '69 Convertible Mustang waiting for 'bcn to play
IORR for the first time in the same manner. Only Stones fans can appreciate the importance of this moment. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:03am
No matter how crazy shit gets, new Stones evens it all out!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:04am
they are doing the news now.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:04am
I don't speak French but I think I heard her say I Love Tampa.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:05am StPeteStone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:04am:
I heard gadonkadonk. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:06am
new Stones listening party now!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:07am Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:06am:
Pretty exciting! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:09am
damn, the news break is long.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:11am
Phil Collins blows
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:14am
Fuck I'm at work and can't listen. :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:15am
Playing now!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:19am
Liked it.
MT's bits kind of sound Joe Walsh's "Ordinary Average Guy" at times. Strange. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:20am
Very Nice!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:20am
Are you serious? Get's the Wicked Pissah for me.
Of course, a client walked in while it was playing. I told her, "please wait, as I am having a moment." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:24am MT sounds better with each listen. Love the wah-wah... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:25am
oh well, close the vaults nothing to see here.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:46am
I'm totally underwhelmed.
bigger let down than fruit striped gum. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:51am Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:46am:
Fair 'nuff. Think you've made that clear several times already... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:54am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 11:51am:
I deleted some sorry I am [smiley=angry.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:06pm
So did anyone record it, I'm seeing "EXCLU CLASSIC21 ROLLING STONES - PLUNDERED MY SOUL" in their playlist, tuning in now...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:26pm
Will Plundered be available on US iTunes?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:26pm
Just tuned in, late. Been listening and waiting patiently.
Recently heard The Flower Pot Men sing Let's Go To San Francisco, so I got that going for me . . . Hangin' in there . . . |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:30pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:20am:
i just turned it on, will it return the favor? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:30pm
Odd programming, but at least it's a change...I'm all set to record with MP3myMP3...hopefully they'll playing it again. Traffic report for Brussels and Belgium right now !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:40pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:30pm:
That's for sure !! They play a lot of vinyl. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:42pm
I get a sense it's coming fast and hard. Ready to capture on my Edirol R-09 . . .
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by riffkeither on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:44pm
You are right !
EXCLU CLASSIC21 ROLLING STONES - PLUNDERED MY SOUL :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey We are back in the sixties when we listen to Jumping for the first time really cool feeling ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:44pm fuman wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:42pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:47pm
No hint from the DJ that they'll be playing it again though...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:51pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:47pm:
i'm digging the french music... it's a win for me anyway. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:53pm
Given the two times which it last played, I'd think it will
play within the next 30-45 min. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:58pm Pdog wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:51pm:
What's up, Dog? I'm picking the 7" up on Saturday. And I'm talking about the record! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:58pm
I'll buy that.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 1:30pm
Now playing "Can I get a Witness"...would make for a nice teaser for Plundered !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 1:47pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:58am:
I haven't done that since Undercover..... How are you guys hearing it? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 1:51pm
Click to Play : http://classic21.radio.fr/
Wow this is getting long, going to program a recording and hope for the best ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 2:09pm
Not looking good, the DJ for the 9 to 11 show announced some of the events and no mention of the Stones, crap, hope someone taped it!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 2:18pm Boomy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
not much... just living the good life in central tejas. do you do needle drops? if you do, and can upload the song.... i'm requesting... I have a feeling it will be online soon. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 2:22pm
Looks like Urban might have taped it : http://twitter.com/UrbanSteel : "Plundered My Soul "alone" is much better as the whole A Bigger Bang album ( imo ) ." !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 2:44pm
What the fuck? I need to hear it! NOW!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by riffkeither on Apr 15th, 2010 at 2:55pm
just hearing it now !!!!
so great waohw!!!!! En ce moment sur „Classic 21“ : * ROLLING STONES - PLUNDERED MY SOUL * BLACK BOX REVELATION - HIGH ON A WIRE * VAN HALEN - YOU REALLY GOT ME |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:05pm
Not knocking on ABB ( I enjoy it -- even though I haven't spun it in probably two years), but of course something from that time period will be better.
This is what they should be doing. They should take some older tracks and rework them..put them out in some capacity. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:24pm
Damn...just missed it. :sad
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:37pm
Any reviews? How was it?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:39pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
mediocre |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:43pm
Well thanks to some very kind people on IORR. I now have PMS waiting for me in my Email when I get home from work. I was just listening to the unsurpassed masters boot at lunch. I got the fever baby! :paristhong
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:46pm Holden wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:24pm:
mee too... had to go toget kids from school... obsessing doesn't wrk well for me... things happen when i just chill.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:53pm
Crap. Why didn't I check in earlier? I feel more out of the loop than Ronnie Wood.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:55pm
Okay ... I've heard all the bonus tracks—fairly crappy .wav files, but enough to get the idea.
For now, first impressions: Mick did a *lot* of overdubbing, far more than we were led to believe. The only untouched tracks, to my ears, were the LIB-era "Loving Cup," "Soul Survivor," "Good Time Women," and "Title 5." "Loving Cup" we've all heard before ... "Soul Survivor" is what you'd expect: a sort of aimless guide vocal from Keith with the underlying track we all know. "Title 5" is a fuzzed-out riff set to Charlie drumming like "19th Nervous Breakdown." Meh. "I Ain't Signifying" got, at the very least, new harp from Mick. Good stuff. "Pass the Wine" is probably the most successful track of the bunch. Reminded me—a bit—of "High Head Blues" by the Black Crowes. Or maybe "Spill the Wine." Many of you heard "Plundered My Soul" on French radio today. Weird thing: I do *not* hear the Taylor overdub on the first prechorus, as heard on the Amazon.uk sample. "Dancing in the Light" starts out promisingly. Mick gives it a twangy vibe. By the end, though, he does a barky ad-lib thing, reminiscent of the end of "Put Me in the Trash." Not very convincing. "So Divine (Aladdin Story)" has brand new lyrics/vocal track. This one didn't bother me, but didn't quite rock my world, either. "Following the River," a gospel, "Shine a Light"-type thing, has a great piano track from Nicky Hopkins, who recycles a bit of "Jealous Guy." The vocal track, alas, is mannered Mick. The melody kind of—emphasis on kind of—reminded of "Don't Call Me Up." Mick does that faux-plaintive ad-lib thing over the end of the track. He really pushes his voices to places it does not want to go anymore. Disappointing. I'm pretty sure I'll warm up to a lot of this. I like "Streets of Love," after all. But many of you, I'm sure, will not. Just sayin'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:56pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:39pm:
just mediocre?? :wtf3 Sacrebleu! I want a second opinion |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:59pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
thanks for posting.... just wondering, how did you get the files? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:02pm
These are outtakes. Songs which hit the cutting room floor the first time.
These were not meant to be classic songs. That they have some additional meat on the bones is the artists taking creative license to their own music. There will be no SFM, Sympathy, ADTL, Satisfaction in this bunch. Regale for what we get. After all, it's The Stones, dammit. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:08pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:56pm:
very mediocre. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:14pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
Consumer Reports may put the don't buy label on this product. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:23pm
I want to hear the whole song.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:25pm
Thanks Mel, we need the tapes now ;-)
Plundered is now on YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS2jNueeoeg Sorry for the gap (might help not having it pulled...) Doesn't go anywhere does it, Mick's singing is oh so mannered and there seems to be some shrieking in the background, was that on the original tape or an overdub too ? Sounds like a Black Crows outtake, which is not saying much is it ? Seriously if they had put it on ABB we probably wouldn't have known any better. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:29pm
Thanks
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:34pm
yikes.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:37pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:33pm:
and i wouldn't ask, check pm... haha, just kidding... no really chexk pm... i was joing... there's no PM... chewck email... hit me up on facebook, you have mail, check voicemail.... all BS aside, you're a great guy for reviewing them. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:47pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
I don't care for it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:57pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
Thanks for this- I'm starting to get into it. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:05pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:05pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:57pm:
Did you throw on the headphones? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:07pm StPeteStone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:05pm:
no- I'll try |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:11pm
Have to pay $3,000 in taxes and now this.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:14pm
I hear it's their best work since Exile
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:15pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 4:47pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:19pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:11pm:
I bet you didn't know half of the shit you could've written off... we wrote off all our medical expenses, we went over $7k, and that means you can deduct it from a family of 4... sorry to hijack the thread... maybe you got everything, but most people get screwed b/c they don't know these things... this includes all medicines, equipment, tests and deductibles ect... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:20pm
I need to dive into my medicine bag and sleep this off. Bad mojo.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:22pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:05pm: a lot of emotions today but we'll be ok- I now dig it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:46pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:22pm:
Are you saying you need some Emotional Rescue? :spooky |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:17pm
Now gone midnight in the UK, so listening to the newly-downloaded i-tunes release.
Pretty good all round, but :smilemick just lifts it to a different level. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:39pm
Haven't clicked on the link yet...
Why am I so anxious? Geez, I thought i had outgrown that. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:42pm
Plundered sounds a little like the copy cat attempts bands make to sound like the Stones. Maybe it's what happens when you try to recreate a sound from 30 or 40 years ago. It also hints that what a lot of these newer bands do is steal from the outtakes and just change a few chords here and there and think that people won't notice. At the same time, there are sounds and a vibe there that I haven't heard since Undercover. Yes I mean Undercover. I don't mean the style, just a feel and a core sound.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:47pm
Itunes won't let you buy a UK single...wtf? When is it available in the US?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by MRD8 on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:49pm
Are we sure this isn't a Jagger solo song? I don't hear ANY Keith influence on this at all...i sure hope this isn't the best track!:)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:07pm StPeteStone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
Amazon says it'll be available 4/26 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:12pm MRD8 wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:49pm:
this really is more liie a tattoo Two type sound... if you know what I mean. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:12pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:07pm:
Thanks! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:16pm
Hey, I like it.
It's got that big, crashing sound and Jagger's vocals are obviously new. How he thought he could get away with claiming otherwise is beyond me, but its Wandering Spirit Mick... so it works well with the music and its slightly buried in the mix, so the overall sound is classic Stones. Anybody got the lyrics? I only hear bits....which, i guess, is in the Exile tradition. I'm on my tenth hearing. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:19pm
hum...ok let me listen to it with headphones to see if it sounds any better than on the first listens !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:30pm
Classic21 version sounds like crap on headphones, so I plunked down €1 on the iTunes version, gotta support the ol' geezers. Remember Mick said he'd only bother working on old songs if this batch sold well...
Ok that's better. Sound is still a bit distorted, why do the engineers need to push the sound like that theses days, it was the same problem on ABB. I really wonder what's left from the original track on this ? I'm guessing...not much, maybe Nicky's piano ? I suspect that second faint/ghost vocal by Mick (first time he's done that, no ?) is a way to emulate Keith's buried vocals on Exile. Wasn't he around to do the same ? Must say it's growing on me, too bad it's missing a bridge ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:36pm
'I wrote a letter full of trite confessions about .....'
Help me out people! I can truly say that I'm getting that thrill - that rush of a great new Stones song and I haven't had that since Emotional Rescue.....if this is Jagger now, well, that just makes it better. the sound, Jagger's soulful vocals and a classic melodic riff that rocks while it flies and grooves. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:43pm
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Listen to that guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:47pm
I've listened to it about 20 times and it keeps getting better each time
It sounds so reminiscent to Tumbling Dice, anyone want to speculate that it could be an alt. take on TD like GTW was? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:50pm
Dunno, sounds more like "Save Me" to me than TD.
But yeah the guitar's good, without it this would be "Brilliant Mistake v2", nothing too technical but a lot of soul and feeling,...and it's most likely been recorded very recently...man what we've been missing out on since 74. The buck stops at Mick and Keith, but the music has a life of its own and in spite of his merits Ron never took it to another level for them. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:54pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:47pm:
Sounds more melodic to me, but the groove is there..... Frankly, I'm listening to this as a "new" song. The traces of the past are there, Nicky's rumbling piano and the overall bigness of the sound, but it sounds contemporary to me and so I have a hard time putting into a 1972 context. The lyrics sound like an old guy looking at past love-lost.....so while the musical elements have that old feel, particular the chord changes splitting the chorus and the verses. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:56pm
WE ARE DISCUSSING A NEW STONES SONG AND IT'S FROM THE VAULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey :smilemick :wtf2 :wtf1 :boring :smilestu |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:58pm
The words/emotions are too wistful for a young man.....so the lyrics are def an guy looking back.....
MT still has those beautiful fills....nothing fancy, just enough to take it to a different level. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:02pm LadyJane wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:56pm:
Yep..... I just sounds new enough to me and its beautiful thing. This proves to me that it always depends on Jagger. No matter how great a riff is, or how amazing Keith is and how consistent he is, if Jagger is not being real or stripped down to the core lyrically and vocally, the Stones are not the Stones. Jagger, 2009, sounds impassioned here, like he means it and that makes all the difference. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:08pm
loving it
great way to start a sunny weekend surfs up and the Stones are back ! :retarded |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:19pm
Compiled by my good friend, Shidoobee's crossfire hurricane!
Good job!!!!! Plundered My Soul Can you believe it? I've won more medals in this love game. I’ve been resting on my laurels. I’m a bad loser. I’m a yard off my pace. Mmmm… I smell rubber and I soon discovered that you’re gone for good. My indiscretions made a bad impression. Guess I was misunderstood. I thought you needed my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. (Plundered my soul) I started asking around but your friend's pretty lips were sealed. I wrote a letter full of prattle and tried the fashions and my wounds that heel. I had some gossip. Come on I got it, you’re dryin’ out. So I phoned every clinic in the yellow pages, not a place I found. I thought you needed my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. (You plundered my soul) I hate quittin’ but I’m close to admittin’ I’m a sorry case. But on quiet reflection, my sad rejections not a total disgrace. But I do miss your quick repartee and the smile the length of your face. You'll be a hard act to follow. A bitter pill to swallow. You’re a tough, oh you’re tough to replace. I thought you wanted my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. You were the trick up my sleeve. My ace in the hole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. Oh… plundered my soul. Oh yeah! (You plundered my soul) You plundered my soul. Yeah! Yeah! (You plundered my soul) ________________________________________ This man knows his Jaggerbonics!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:30pm Gets better with each listen. Love the Keef-ish high harmony shadowing Mick on the verses... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:56pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
I was wondering, is it keith or someone else? what do you think, i thought it wasn't... but not sure... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:02pm It's Mick doing his best 'Exile' Keith. KR's only credited with guitar... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:13pm
Honestly, I'm still confused about all this...explain it like I'm 2:
Jagger claims he only added new lyrics and vocals to the River song......but this sounds entirely new to me, vocally. So what exactly are we hearing? Old music, new voice? But isn't that just a new song? I'm loving it, but I still don't get the point of claiming its "old" and "unearthed". |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:52pm texile wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:13pm:
Jagger's ego. He expects us to believe his rubbish. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:02pm
I've been Plundered and I like it,like it,yes I do. On my third listen. I don't know if their are 2 different versions going around. But out of the three that were sent to me. 2 are different lengths. But as for the song itself. Good stuff. Yeah the vocals are very 2010. But it's nice to hear Mick put in an effort. Seems strong. I like the lyrics. Not cheesy,good hook. Works for me. For those that don't like it. To each their own....But keeping things in perspective. This is 2010. Does anybody sound the same as they did 30 years ago. It's probably better to attempt this than totally new material. I mean tell me a band that is even better now than they were 20-30-40-50 years ago. It's a fun little rock & roll song that for 3 minutes and 54 seconds made me forget about lifes troubles. We're not curing cancer here....Or donating a liver............Good Shit. :thatwassmart
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:17pm texile wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:13pm:
New vocals on half of the bonus tracks. See my "review" above. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:24pm
If Keith spent more than fives minutes on any of these new tracks, I'm not hearing it. Like "A Bigger Bang," this is 98% Mick, folks. And the fact that he brought in Taylor speaks volumes. ... I wonder if Keith disapproved overall, or just couldn't be bothered.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:28pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:24pm:
I would guess it's probably the latter. For all the talk of how Keith wants to get the band back on the road. It just seems like his life is very content right now. Espicially after the scare he had after the fall. It does seem like Mick was the major moving force behind this. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:37pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:28pm:
Totally and unequivocally ... which is kind of shocking, when you think about it. I'm not knocking the project. I never would've dreamed that Mick would go in for this sort of thing. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:41pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:28pm:
It's sad because Exile is/was Keith's baby. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:54pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:41pm:
Yeah but that was then. Now,Keith just doesn't seem like he's that interested in the band's legacy and at least Mick is giving it a go and realizes what the latest trend is in terms of putting out new/old product. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:54pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:41pm:
Well, I think I like it more than you probably will, but I see your point... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:11am
An interesting article. Don't know if it was already posted.
The Rolling Stones: Andy Johns on recording Exile On Main StreetHarvey Kubernik, Rock's Backpages, March 2010 ANDY JOHNS is a world class sound engineer and record producer. On May 18th his work with The Rolling Stones on their 1972 Exile On Main Street album will be re-released in an expanded edition 2 CD-set on Universal Records. This new CD compilation features 10 tracks originally recorded during the Exile era and only recently discovered while working on the reissue project. The unreleased selections were produced by Jimmy Miller, The Glimmer Twins and Don Was. Exile On Main Street will be available in two CD formats: the original 18 track release; a deluxe CD edition with the 10 special bonus tracks; and a super deluxe package that also includes vinyl, a 30-minute documentary DVD with footage from Cocksucker Blues, Ladies and Gentlemen... the Rolling Stones and Stones in Exile, and a 50-page collector's book with photos from the Exile era. Andy Johns was taped for the Exile film documentary, Stones in Exile that will view on US Network television and through BBC Worldwide internationally. In May Eagle Rock Entertainment will release the DVD item to retail outlets. In fall 2010, the same company will make available the 1972 Stones' concert film, Ladies and Gentlemen... The Rolling Stones on DVD." The Stones in Exile documentary is produced by filmmaker John Battsek and directed by Stephen Kijak, who is known for his work on Scott Walker: 30 Century Man. THE YOUNGER sibling of Olympic Studios engineer Glyn Johns, Andy graduated The King's School, Gloucester, England in the late 1960s. Before he even turned age nineteen he was running the dials working as Eddie Kramer's second engineer on classic recording sessions by Jimi Hendrix. Andy's engineering C.V. credits include the debut Blind Faith effort, a handful of Led Zeppelin LP's, and Mott The Hoople's Brain Capers. He engineered and produced Free's 'All Right Now'. Andy's name can be found on The The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers, Exile On Main Street," Goat's Head Soup, and It's Only Rock 'n' Roll. Johns' production work started in 1969 with Ahead Rings Out from Blodwyn Pig. Along the way he helped shape the sound on platters like Why Dontcha by West, Bruce and Laing, Television's Marquee Moon, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge by Van Halen, Joe Satriani's The Extremist, and L.A. Guns' Tales From The Strip. In 2009, then came his recent hit album with Chickenfoot. A self-titled debut endeavor with a lineup comprised of Sammy Hagar, former Van Halen bassist Michael Anthony, renowned guitarist Joe Satriani and Chad Smith, the Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer. Last year he also worked on a blues-based recording with Steve Miller, who he first encountered in 1967 at Olympic Studios, the band Swayback, and in late summer 2009 was behind the board with singer/songwriter Amy Terrin. The albums he's asked most about are Led Zeppelin's IV and The Rolling Stones' Exile On Main Street. You had a recording history and personal history with the Rolling Stones before you engineered Exile On Main Street. You were a tape operator at Olympic Studios for Their Satanic Majesties Request sessions, and knew the band even earlier owing to your brother Glyn engineering their sessions from the beginning of their career. Well, I was aware of them when Glyn did their first demos at IBC. They didn't even have a record deal. I remember him bringing that stuff back to the house. They soon started making records. Glyn used to live with Ian Stewart. And when my parents moved to the country on half-terms, which is a four-day weekend, I would go up and stay with my brother in Epson. And there would be all this neat gear around. 'Cause every time the Stones went to America they would buy stuff because it was obviously half the price. So I'd muck about with all that. I remember Bill Wyman had this bass that he'd made himself. Hand-made bass that used to be under Stu's bed. And there was a copy of 'Satisfaction' in 1965, and it hadn't come out in England yet. So, here I am this teenager with a copy of the latest Stones' single, which just happens to be 'Satisfaction' . And I started banging around on Bill's bass and that's when I really got interested in playing bass. And then at Christmas time, Glyn said, "What do you want for Christmas?" And I said, "Well, there's that bass underneath Stew's bed, you know. I wouldn't mind that." And he said, "Oh, Bill is not gonna get rid of that 'cause he made it himself." And I didn't think anymore about it. And then Christmas day came and I didn't get very much for Christmas 'cause I'd already weasled my stuff before Christmas. Everyone else is opening gifts and they're getting watches, Christmas stuff. And I'm not getting anything. So, I was a bit downhearted, you know. And at the end, Glyn says, "Guess what? I forgot I've got something for you." And he went out and came back and I could see it was a bass guitar. And I opened it up and it's this gorgeous little bass that Bill used to use on Top Of The Pops programme. So that knocked me for six... And I couldn't believe it. "This is for me. What are you, fuckin' crazy?" So, obviously, I never looked back. In fact, I named my first son William in Bill's honour. I remember we were working at Olympic just after my son had been born, and Bill was doing an overdub sittin' next to me. "So, you had a son." I said yes. "Well, what you call him?" "I call him William." He said "What?" "You heard." "Oh really..." he got the point. I heard many years ago some tale where you were actually being considered to replace Bill as bassist one moment for the Rolling Stones. I mean, during Exile in France one night Mick went, "You know maybe we should get someone else." And I'm sitting in the recording truck, and said, "Look, you know, this probably wouldn't mean that much to you, wouldn't change anything, but if you get rid of Bill Wyman I'm going home." Bill is one of my heroes. What are your memories of Exile and how did you get on to the Exile recording project? I know you were involved a tad earlier with Sticky Fingers and with producer Jimmy Miller. I know you worked with producer Guy Stevens on Mott The Hoople's classic Brain Capers album. Guy and were very close, best man at my first wedding, first real friend I made in the record business, I got to work with The Rolling Stones because of Jimmy Miller. I'd worked with him as an assistant engineer at Olympic, and then moved over to Morgan Studios. And they made me a full time engineer almost instantly. I was the only guy there. I did all the sessions that came in and got a lot of experience quickly. I did Traffic's 'Shanghai Noodle Factory' with Jimmy. And then we worked on the Blind Faith thing. He came in about halfway through on that. Mott The Hoople. Sky, Free's live album. Then there was a Stones' session that he brought into Morgan. The first session on 'You Can't Always Get What You Want'. And it went very badly. Just horrible. They did not want to be there and there were too many of them for that little place. Al Kooper was there, I think. That was my first opportunity of working with them. And Mick was in a foul mood telling me to turn Brian (Jones) off. I didn't do that many sessions on Satantic Majesties. Just a few. It was bizarre. And I thought it was pretty silly stuff. You got Bill Wyman out there playing vibraphone? And some other bizarre instrument that Charlie (Watts) was playing. It was just a very poor attempt to compete with Sgt. Pepper's. Andrew Loog Oldham was still around but not very much and not much of an influence on anything. The last time he was around was during the 'We Love You' and 'Dandelion' recording sessions at Olympic when the cops showed up at the door and Mick was smokin' a big joint. These are a couple of Bobbies in uniform. And Mick was so brilliant. He puts this joint behind his back and says, "Andrew, what we need on this are two pieces of wood bein' hit together in unison. Like claves." "What about these," offered the Bobbys as they voluntarily pulled out their trungeons. So he escaped by puttin' them on the record. And Andrew was spraying the control room to cover up the smell. At the time the Stones were having vast hassles with the cops and another bust would have been the end for them. So, it was a very narrow squeeze. So Jimmy gets me in on Sticky Fingers. Which was about half done. The Stones has just finished putting together their recording truck. It was the first time they ever had anything. I don't know where the money came from. The truck, it was done for Stu, if anything, because he had been so hard done by them. So they said, "OK, Stu. You run this." And we went to Stargroves (Mick Jagger's Berkshire mansion) and they played for a couple of days. Not very well. And then the first playback comes. And they have all these fucking hanger ons. It was just ghastly. So I do this first playback and Mick is leaning over the mixer at me and he says, "What the fuckin' hell is that? I could do better than that on my cassette machine. What are you doin' here?" I thought, "Christ, what a nightmare." I said, "Well, if you got rid of these bloody people, it's a small space, and they're soaking up all the sound and God knows what else. And then we'll listen again." And Mick says, "Oh, all right then. You're worse than your brother." I said, "No I'm not." And I waited up to speak to him the next morning and I said, "Look, obviously the Rolling Stones are far more important than my feelings. If I should go I will go right now." He went, "No. You're in. You've passed the test." Tell me about the Stones' mobile recording truck? Well, the gear in there was made by this fellow Dick Swetenam who really made the first mixes that you would recognize as a modern mixer. He had things that we now accept as normal. A pan pot on every channel. The ability to add and take away mid range. Insert points. More than one echo send. And they look great, too. They were wrap around things. He was an extremely clever fellow. But he also built this tape machine that didn't work. It was a fucking joke. Dick didn't know about tape machines. He knew about electronics, not transport. So we were always going through hell with that. In the end I got it kicked out and we got a 3M machine. Dick put the truck together. It was his very cool stuff with four speakers in Lockwood cabinets. It could sound very nice in there but it could also be very difficult. The confined space. The camera never worked. The talk back never worked. So you couldn't see or talk to people. You had to keep runnin'out of the truck. "Stop!" Jimmy and I went to France with that truck. Stu was supposed to find a house that we could all go to everyday to work. And he couldn't find one. So we ended up in Keith's basement. Which of course meant the center of activity is Keith's house. I don't know whether Anita (Pallenberg) or Keith really liked that. 'Cause there were a lot of people involved. They were horn players, technical people, Jimmy Miller, Nicky Hopkins, and were all there every day. And the band...Charlie is living there and Nicky is living there. So a lot of stuff for them to deal with. Did you have to make some overt adjustments about actually recording in a Villa, a home, from what you learned at Stargroves, Olympic or Morgan studios? I don't know about adjustments. ..You just go with what is there. And you try and make it sound as good as you can. The first room I put them in was this basement which was a disaster. It just was too dead. So I moved them to another room that had stone walls. And I had Charlie and Keith in there and Mick Taylor and Bill had his bass underneath the stairs. Nicky Hopkins was in a separate room. And it was tough but some of the things came out rather well. Bianca was very pregnant at the time and I think she showed up once or twice. She had the baby during the record. Mick was back and forth to Paris a few times. As far as microphones on hand I had the normal standard stuff. Some Neumanns, Shures, Beyers, The mikes were OK. It was just these rooms were a bit weird. Plus it had been a torture chamber during World War II. The villa was a local Gestapo headquarters when the Nazis occupied France. I didn't notice that until we'd been there for a while and the floor heating vents in the hallway were shaped like Swastikas. Gold Swastikas. And I said to Keith, "What the fuck is that?" "Oh...I never told you. This was the headquarters. " So I guess downstairs they used to do all this dreadful shit. That's where fires would start, the electricity would go on and off. There was just a very strange vibe down there. There were a lot of people always drifting around. Let's talk about 'Tumbling Dice'. Obviously it was going to be great but it was a big struggle. Eventually we get a take. Hooray! I thought, "Let's kick this up a notch and double track Charlie." "Oh, we've never done that before." "Well, it doesn't mean we can't do it now." So we double-tracked Charlie but he couldn't play the ending. For some reason he got a mental block about the ending. So Jimmy Miller plays from the breakdown on out; that was very easy to punch in. It was a little bit different than some of the others. That song we did more takes than anything else. 'Rocks Off'? It went on for ages. When Mick came back from Paris for the first time he seemed happy with the sound. And Keith would sit downstairs and at one point he sat there for 12 hours without getting out of his chair just playing the riff over and over and over. And then one night, it was very late, four or five in the morning, Keith says, "Let me listen to that take again." And he nods off while the tape is playing. I thought, "Great. That's it. End of the night and I'm out of here." So I go back to my place where I was staying. (Horn player/arranger) Jim Price and I had this villa. It was pretty spanky I'm tellin' you. A half an hour drive. I walk in the front door and the phone is ringing. I pick it up and it's Keith. "Where are you?" "Well, I'm obviously here 'cause I answered the phone." "Well you better get back here, man, 'cause I have this guitar part. Come back!" And I returned and it's now six in the morning and he played the counter rhythm guitar of 'Tumbling Dice' which was another Telecaster track, a second rhythm track, the whole thing just came to life and it just knit the whole thing together. That was one of my favourite tunes. Keith used to sleep with his guitars. It was a very busy mix. It was very difficult to mix. At Sunset Sound I tried mixing it a couple of times and it wouldn't work. On the last batch Mick called up and said "Come back. We can't beat your mixes." I mixed about another 12 songs in a marathon session. I would just leave the booth to have a piss and just go back in the room and that was it. For some reason I brought 'Tumbling Dice' up and it just started to work. Sometimes it happens that way. You had been in Sunset Sound in Hollywood before and worked on some early Led Zeppelin albums. Yes. I had been in Sunset Sound and was very enamoured of the tapes that I would get from Sunset Sound that I would get. I really liked the way Let It Bleed sounded: that was mixed at Sunset Sound. And I really liked some other stuff that my brother had mixed at Sunset. That's why when I took Led Zeppelin there and they changed the room, and I mixed all of Zeppelin IV and it sounded like shit when I got it home. But I still knew that had to be me and not the place. So, I remember talkin' to Keith in his basement in France. Just Keith and I and I said, "Look, the next step is that we've got to go and finish the overdubs and mix. Why don't we go to Sunset?" And they worked there before. So, "Yeah, all right." And of course, I loved L.A.. 21 year old English guy, and I had done a couple or three projects there. So I knew people and chicks eventually. "Yeah. Let's do that then." We got to Hollywood. It was taking pretty slowly and I was taking a lot of time to get mixes. But they were coming out quite well. We were doing overdubs at the same time. And the Musicians Union guy came by to try and bust us. The Union said if you were foreign musicians you had to give one per cent of the record to the Union. So they warned me at the front desk, "He's here again!" So, we'd scrabble around and put everything away and then he'd walk in. I'd pretend I'm just mixing. And in those days, I mean, nobody took four or five months to mix a record. (laughs). You did it in a week. So he was very suspicious. I remember we did go over to Wally Heider's studio down the street, and he came in to try and bust us again. And Bobby Keys was actually playing tenor saxophone. And he knew what this guy was. And he comes runnin' out of the studio into the control room and the door on that control room opened right onto the street in Hollywood. And Bobby has got his sax over his head and he's gonna smash his brains in. And the guy is running up towards Hollywood Blvd. with Bobby shouting and screaming at him with the sax still raised above his head. And I saw them go round the corner and I didn't see Bobby again for a couple of weeks. (laughs). I think he went to a bar and just forgot what we were there for. (laughs). So we never saw this guy again. Bobby put the fear of Texas into him. Did you ever have any concerns about taking basic tracks mostly done in France at Keith's villa for six months at Nellcôte and then transferring them to another room like Sunset Sound in Hollywood? I know years earlier during Between The Buttons there was some slight loss of tape generation during multiple master tape transfers between RCA studios and Olympic. Although I know that was not the case with Beggar's Banquet, an album your brother engineered and then mixed at Sunset Sound. I had no worries or concerns about fidelity. In actual fact it worked to my advantage. Because they had this bloody great AMPEX machine that had very high tension on it. And because of this dodgy machine that had been in the truck now the tape was being smashed up against the heads. And it sounded in actual fact a little better. It was much easier to deal with. But you know you don't think about that. There was certain places... There used to be a theory, "If you record at Criteria in Florida you can't mix at Record Plant" and stuff like that. I remember Stephen Stills tellin' me that in the men's room at Record Plant once. And he was right. "Just go on a plane and go back to Criteria." So I did. No, that was not really an issue. The issue was trying to retain a balance of continuity. Because there is Mick and Keith, and Jimmy and Andy, and then there's Marshall (Chess) and everyone, you know, is trying to get it done but in different ways. So it got a bit silly. But the transfer aspect was done as per normal. You do the basic track, get the arrangement sussed out and do basic track. Then you look for other ideas which quite often appear almost like on their own. They just come out of the air. I was still learning on Exile. So I wasn't influential really at all about anything except for perhaps choice of song once or twice. "This shouldn't be a single." They had been making records for some time. Mick saw himself as sort of the producer. Jimmy Miller was on his way out. So Mick would be around for everything. "Let's put the chicks here." "Let's have Jim (Price) come up with something for this." Somewhat of a martinet. But no problems, and in the end it was pretty much Keith's final decision. That's why it was a bit of a mess. Nobody was quite in control because they had given up on Jimmy a bit. Tell me about Jimmy Miller as a producer and a mate. Spencer Davis once said, "Jimmy Miller was the first genius producer I ever worked with." Well that's easy. Jimmy was an extremely talented man. His main gift I think was his ability to get grooves. Which for a band like the Stones is very important. Look at the difference between Beggar's Banquet and Satanic Majesties. He put them right back on the rail. So he was influential then and came up with all sorts of lovely ideas for them. In fact that's him playing the cowbell at the beginning of 'Honky Tonk Woman'. He sets it up. He was somewhat of a frail individual and they got to him like they got to everybody. Sooner or later you lose your mind. By the time we got to Exile On Main Street they weren't really listening to him anymore. So he felt a bit like a bit like a fifth wheel. He was being squeezed out a bit and I was watchin' that go down. Jimmy was mad keen and sort of half way in control of Sticky Fingers but his grip was slipping a bit. On Exile they sort of stopped listening to him and by the time we got to Goat's Head Soup it was like he wasn't there. That was a very tough record to make. I love 'Winter' from that. You know, Mick and Keith back then could be pretty fuckin' ruthless. It's a defense mechanism because people forget how big a deal they were. So everybody and their uncle is trying to grab the hem of their coat. They always want something, you know: "Listen to this song. You should really do this song." "I've got this great idea for a hotel. Give me the money." Constantly. And the dope dealers and the groupies. So I guess that hardens you to a certain extent. I know it has to me a little bit. On Exile, Keith would play after the fact. We'd have some time and Keith would say, "I want to re-do the bass." In front of Bill, you know. They were really cruel. The guitar contributions of guitarist Mick Taylor were apparent to you over your working relationship with the Stones in the studio. And he received a co-write on the track 'Ventilator Blues'. You have said it got quite steamy in Keith's basement 'cause there was one small window and an electric fan blowing in the summer. So you all had the "Ventilator Blues." Mick Taylor in the studio in France or Sunset Sound was just a shinning light. As a person somewhat taciturn. When he plays his guitar and we'd do 100 takes on something he would come up with something slightly different every time. Faultless. Every once in a while he'd drop a note. I mean, that's expected. His slide playing. He's put a bottle on his little finger and then he'd do chords with the rest of his hand. So he could do both at once. Usually it's a separate deal but that was part of his style. His sense of melody was unbelivable. Every time I knew it was Mick Taylor I'd be sitting at the edge of my seat. He was wonderful but became discontent with his situation. On the 1973 tour of Europe I spent quite a lot of time with him and he would say "They won't let me write any songs. Anytime I have an idea I'm blocked out." Later I put Mick on to Jack Bruce who was a good friend of mine and still a huge admirer of him, then and still now. They formed The Jack Bruce Band and Mick Taylor Band with drummer Bruce Gary, who would be a good friend for years in L.A. before he was in The Knack and afterward. Did you have any specific philosophy on recording vocals during Exile? That's a funny question and I don't want to be rude. If you're gonna do vocals you put the microphones up that you are familiar with, a Neuman 87, that's what I used on Mick and Keith. Then you can put a compressor on it and then you record. If it's not working you search for other ways of doing it. It usually works. And the mixing or implementation of the echo chamber at Sunset Sound. We didn't use it all that much. There had been a fire and when it was re-built it didn't sound quite the same. But I might have used it on some stuff. I was mostly using EMT 140 plates. On the 'Rocks Off' mix we put on an echo effect on Mick's voice and got lucky. It ties together. Overdubs were not a problem. Any kind of overdub activity, except for 'Happy', where Jim Price was in charge of horn arrangements. That was his responsibility. And Bobby Keys, who has a mathematical mind, would beat you at chess in three moves. That kind of cracker white trash persona that he puts on is just a front. Born the same day as Keith. I remember a birthday party and got in a lot of trouble for that. You did? Well...I started a cake fight. And then Keith was in the bathroom, one of the old Apple Records houses, big old house, Beatles, and Keith was trying to take a dump or something, and Bobby and I went down the corridor and I had a big piece of cake. And we're banging on the door and he won't open it. And Bobby said, "You know, we shouldn't do this." And I went, "Fuck it." And kicked the door in and Keith runs over to the sink and I got him with the cake. Just rock 'n' roll fun. (laughs). And I had given him this huge Nazi Luftwaffe (SP) dagger for his birthday. The first thing he got, you know. So I show up the next day and he's sitting up with his feet on the kitchen table with this dagger sticking out of his belt and he gives me a lecture on behaviour. (laughs). "You can't do that sort of thing. It's really not right. Come on, man. This isn't your house and throwing cake around." This coming from Keith. OK. And pianist Nicky Hopkins is all over the Exile album. Nicky is on everything. He was the best and the greatest. God bless Nicky Hopkins. He added so much to that band. Sometimes you wouldn't really notice it. But if you take the piano out then the house of cards collapses a bit. He was always coming up with gorgeous little melodies. Earlier, 'She's A Rainbow'. That's Nicky. Of course he was doing a lot of things like that. Plus he was extremely rhythmic. People don't remember him for being rhythmic. But he was. When people think of Nicky Hopkins they think of his right hand. But he would make the groove happen sometimes. If we took him out, "Oh, what happened here." Which is normal. If they are listening to him they are gonna play around him. Or with him. And if you take one of those elements out: "What happened here?" It's music, see. That's how it works. Jim Price and I went into a Nice, France, toy store. They had Chinese fire works. Big M80 things. Nicky was in this basement room all on his own with the piano and he would sit for a long time with people talking, doing arrangements and he would be head bent over the piano and never say a word and wait. One day Jim Price suggests to toss a fire work into his room that had a cement floor and stone walls, iron grill in basement, "I'm not doing that." "You have to do this." I was very gullible and very quickly tossed it through a tiny window. It was fuckin' loud. Boom! Only time I ever saw Nicky really angry. 'Cause he was meditating. He ran up the stairs, "Who the hell?" Jim made me do it like we were kids. So I miss Nicky dreadfully, he was one of a kind. Never gonna happen again. (Ken Kubernik is a contributing writer to Variety, as a record producer he's worked with Allan Holdsworth, High Hopper. Elton Dean and Gary Husband. Writer/producer Ken Kubernik, was a gawky, teen-aged fanboy when he crashed a Stones' mixing session for Exile at Sunset Sound in the fall of 1971. As a "talent-challenged but enthusiastic" piano student at the time, his take on the album centers around a long-neglected contributor to this epochal recording. "Keith Richards describes the Stones' sound as a 'weave,' wherein the guitars mesh their tone, their tunings, and their respective parts into a sonic wash that delivers the wallop of a horn section. Not surprisingly, Richards' hero, Chuck Berry, initiated this approach, deploying the 'banana-handed' pianist Johnnie Johnson to capture this harmonic and rhythmic density on his genre-defining '50's recordings. "Nicky Hopkins brought this same dynamic texture to the Stones' music during their most productive years. As lean and unassuming as a fence post, Hopkins belied his anonymous session musician status with an instantly recognizable style – part Albert Ammons, part ballet accompanist. And nowhere are his talents put to greater effect than on Exile On Main Street. When Hopkins drops in with his pumping eighth-notes on the second verse of the album's opening track, 'Rock's Off', the weave is complete. Almost every song benefits from his elegant taste in note selection and a sumptuous sound which centers the ramshackle melodies buried throughout the notoriously graveled mix. His range is encyclopedic: a dollop of Floyd Cramer on 'Sweet Virginia'; beefy barrelhouse on 'Soul Survivor'; Delta triplets on 'Ventillator Blues'; and his majesterial orchestral coloring on 'Loving Cup'. Exile On Main Street is nothing if not a testament to Nicky Hopkins' pianistic genius."). What was the food like at Keith's villa This French chef would put out these lavish spreads for lunch and you'd walk out to a big table of artichokes, stuffed tomatoes, sautéed asparagus, salads and lobsters. Wonderful stuff. Big luncheon on the terrace overlooking the Mediterranean and these big yachts. It's France. Keith would come down the steps and go, "I wanna a cheeseburger. " I used to kid Nicky, "Guess what? We're having liver and onions, steak and pie." He had a hole in his stomach. Very frail. After two or three months the chef just fucked off. He left and Keith got these cowboys who hung around town. A big guy who became the cook who then preceded to set fire to the basement kitchen. We then had a long weekend and Mick went off to Paris. And these cowboys stole and nicked most of the equipment, Keith's guitars, Bobby Key's saxophone. Another wise friendship that Keith had going. Keith then had Selmer who made the saxophones make another set brass engraved. He felt rotten about these bastards, paid Selmer and took care of Bobby, who was then better off than when he started. What was the first song actually completed for the album? 'All Down The Line'. It was the first one that was finished cause we'd been working for months and months. Mick got very enamoured. "It's finished! It's going to be the single!" I thought, "This isn't really a single, you know." I remember going out and talking to him and he was playing the piano. "Mick, this isn't a single. It doesn't compare to 'Jumpin' Jack Flash' or 'Street Fighting Man'. Come on, man." He went, "Really? Do you think so?" I thought, "My God. He's actually listening to me." (laughs). And then, I was having a struggle with the mix I thought was gonna be it. Ahmet Ertegun then barged in with a bunch of hookers and ruined the one mix. He stood right in front of the left speaker with two birds on each arm. (laughs). I told Mick, "I can't hear it here. If I could hear it on the radio that would be nice." It was just a fantasy. "Oh, we can do that. Stu, go to the nearest FM radio station with the tape and say we'd like to hear it over the radio. And we'll get a limo and Andy can listen to it in the car." I went, "Bloody hell...Well, it's the Stones. OK." So sure enough, we're touring down Sunset Strip and Keith is in one seat, and I'm in the back where the speakers are with Mick, and Charlie is in there, too. Just because he was bored. (laughs). And Mick's got the radio on and the DJ comes on the air, "We're so lucky tonight. We're the first people to play the new Stones' record." And it came on the radio and the speakers in this car were kind of shot. I still couldn't tell. And it finishes. Then Mick turns around. "So?" "I'm still not sure, man. I'm still not used to these speakers." "Oh, we'll have him play it again then." Poor Stu. "Have them play it again" like they were some sort of radio service. It was surreal. Up and down Sunset Strip at 9:00 on a Saturday night. The Strip was jumpin' and I'm in the car with those guys listening to my mixes. It sounded OK. "I think we're down with that." So then we moved on. I also heard one time at the legendary Record Paradise shop on Hollywood Blvd. that carried all the UK import albums that there was another rumour you left the project or split the scene around the later stages of mixing but then later requested by Mick to come back. I went home for Christmas and thought they were not going to ask me back. In February '72 I was in Malibu doing pre-production on this Jim Price solo album and somebody slipped me a hash cookie. And I don't like grass and hash. It makes me very paranoid. And it was a cookie. "OK. I'll eat that." And then "BOING. Oh my God, what's in this?" I went into my bedroom and was so paranoid and got a chair and stuck it underneath the door knob so no one could get in. The phone kept ringing. Jim Price said, "It's Mick for you." "Oh man, not now, not in this state." I pulled myself together. "Hello Andy." "Hello Mick. I'm sure you're not calling just to say hello." "Well no....Not really." That was fairly honest. "Those mixes that you did we just can't seem to beat them. Would you like to come back and finish the record?" I was very happy about that. Mick was unhappy about how long it had taken me to do the first five mixes, and thought I was losing it or something. Jimmy Millers' other engineer guy was Joe Zaganno who died shortly after all these events. And they worked with him for a bit finishing up with little bits of overdubs. Nothing important. And trying to mix. And he couldn't pull it off. It was tough stuff to do. I had a feeling I was the only guy who could have done it at that time. So Mick and I got together the next day at Wally Heider's and it wasn't comin' off there at all. I didn't like it. He was fairly patient. We went out to some club one night on Sunset Blvd. It was Soul'd Out that became Club Lingerie. We walk in the door and it's all black folks during 'Super Fly'. The music stops and it's every face turned towards us, we're the only white people in the building and I thought, "This is it." (laughs).And then they recognized who he was and we had a grand old evening. It was around the corner from Wally Heider. I said, "Look, this isn't working. We've got to go back to where we did the stuff that we like at Sunset Sound." So we went back to Sunset and Mick said, "I've been working on this fuckin' thing so long. Here are the tapes. I am leaving them with you. Get it finished as quick as you can." And Jimmy Miller is there but he's asleep half the time. He wasn't that involved but just kind of helpful. A bit of moral support. Dear old Jim. So I finished it all up in this one marathon session. What is this story I've heard over the decades that some little geezer, long before downloading and sound file sharing were fashionable buggered off with a master tape of Exile On Main Street, right under your nose at Sunset Sound. Did it happen? When I finished the album I then made a 7 and a half inch IPS copy for the band and left it out front at Sunset Sound in the traffic office. Then a guy shows up like a messenger and picks up the copy. "That's for me. I'm delivering it to the boys." Some stranger. It never got bootlegged. He kept it for himself. I was a bit freaked out about it 'cause I would be the one who got it in the neck. You also mastered the original album in Hollywood. I mastered it on Sunset Blvd. at Artisian, in the same building where CNN stands. My only concern was that the only time I was gonna hear it was in the mastering room. And you had to be able to take it home and listen to it. "Yes, I see now." In those days we didn't used to spend a lot of time in mastering which of course is as important of the procedure as anything else. 'Cause you can ruin it. I think it came out OK. There is one song at the end of a side, we were doing vinyl albums then of course, the last inch is very difficult 'cause the diameters are getting smaller and smaller on the disc and got a bit distorted. You know a lot of people like that record. What is the magic of the album? It's a frozen time and rhyme capsule from Sunset Strip. Well, I think they were at the height of their powers in a way as far as rock 'n' roll goes. Those pop singles and albums they made in the Sixties were stunning. But with Exile, 'cause its mostly blues-based stuff. 'Stop Breaking Down' is probably my favourite track. I remember getting Mick to play harmonica on that. It did not seem like it was finished. My brother (Glyn) had recorded earlier. I said, "We've got to use this", because Mick Taylor plays some gorgeous lines and I'm very sure that it's Mick Jagger playing the rhythm guitar as well. That's why it's a little choppier. It's an intangible. Exile just turned out to be a great collection of music. And I think it was good that it was a double album. Some people say it should have been a single album, but you get the feeling of what they were going through of the time and the confusion and the angst and the joy and the drugs and they moved out of England. There were a lot of emotions. It's also Hollywood, summer 1972 on tape. Sunset Strip when it still mattered. Well, yeah, but it's not as if we were having these big parties and orgies and things. It was heads down and work. © Harvey Kubernik, 2010 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:14am MT sounds sooo good on 'Plundered My Soul'. Did you hear him on any of the other songs, Mel? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:27am
He's playing slide on "I Ain't Signifying," but it might be from the original track...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:36am Could be. Those reports from a few weeks back said he played on one song. So 'PMS' was it then... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:40am
Fascinating stuff, thanks for posting, I'd read some of the stories before but a lot are new. Interesting what he says about Jimmy Miller :
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It's news to me that he wasn't really in charge for Exile and also that he was basically pushed out. When you listen to Keith talking about the 1972 Kingston sessions, he makes it sound like Jimmy was out of it due to abuse...no sense that he got there because he was being ignored. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:22am buddhabone wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 10:41pm:
Eh, I always maintained that Jagger's lyrics, impassioned vocals etc...drove this album to heights that Keith hadn't gone to as a riff-master. Yeah, we associate Exile with Keith because of Nellcote, it was his home, he was camped out....and he was at his best musically. But without Jagger, Exile would be primarily musical experience. Jagger on Shine a Light, Let it Loose etc...made it sing., if you know what I mean. I'd say its the Glimmer Twins reaching their peaks simultaneously. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:33am You've made the big time, gotdablouse. Paul Cashmere linked your video to his blurb about the "first listen" of 'PMS'... Have A Listen To The Rolling Stones Plundered My Soul |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:43am
Here is one link without the gap.....
http://www.getmusic.com.au/rollingstones its "the smile that lights up your face..." wow, we're actually caring about Jagger's lyrics - when was the last time that happened? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:50am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:33am:
Nice, it did take me some time to put it together ;-) I also got an email from YouTube suggesting I enroll in their advertising program for that clip, I think I'll pass ! The gap was an accident in the recording but it ended up being a good thing. Yes we need to work on the lyrics, those posted last night were a start but a lot of stuff was missed, like the gossip, an alcoholic, etc... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by ODonExile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:59am
'Cause I love you all so much. Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suGp-NB9XYY |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:00am gotdablouse wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:50am:
At least they didn't take it down... Here's what I get from that line: "I heard some gossip you'd become an alcoholic, you were drying out So I phoned every clinic in the yellow pages, not a trace I found." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:05am gotdablouse wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:50am:
i have one youtube clip that got played alot, got an email from them too about ad sales. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:07am
plundered my soul will be played on the next tour....
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:11am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:11am
crossfire hurricane has made some edits to yesterday's lyrics:
Plundered My Soul Can you believe it? I've won more medals in this love game. I’ve been resting on my laurels. I’m a bad loser. I’m a yard off my pace. Mmmm… I smell rubber and I soon discovered that you’re gone for good. My indiscretions made a bad impression. Guess I was misunderstood. I thought you needed my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. (Plundered my soul) I started asking around but your friend's pretty lips were sealed. I wrote a letter full of prattle and tried the fashions and my wounds that heel. I had some gossip. you've become an alcoholic, you’re dryin’ out. So I phoned every clinic in the yellow pages, not a place I found. I thought you needed my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. (You plundered my soul) I hate quittin’ but I’m close to admittin’ I’m a sorry case. But on quiet reflection, my sad rejections not a total disgrace. But I do miss your quick repartee and the smile the length of your face. You'll be a hard act to follow. A bitter pill to swallow. You’re a tough, oh you’re tough to replace. I thought you wanted my loving, but it's my heart that you stole. You were the trick up my sleeve. My ace in the hole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. Oh… plundered my soul. Oh yeah! (You plundered my soul) You plundered my soul. Yeah! Yeah! (You plundered my soul) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:14am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:11am:
Thanks Lefty! WICKED PISSAH AWARD OF THE YEAR!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:16am Thank da newb! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:31am
Dancing in the Light ? uh, that's a preview of the whole disc ? Nice !
As for the lyrics, caught a few things : "I wrote a letter full of prattle and tried the fashions and my wounds that heel" sounds more like "I wrote a letter full of trite confessions about wounds that heel" to me ;-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:31am
I'm hearing,
'I sent some letters full of trite confessions about wounds that heal...' |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:33am gotdablouse wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:31am:
ditto.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:45am
We are all like little kids in the RS candy store.
I am LOVING this!!!!!!!! I knew I needed a fix; but I didn't realize how badly I was jonesin'!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:45am
Duh, "heal" yes !
Hey is it me or does "Pass the Wine" (aka Sophia Loren) sound like the "Man Eating Woman" ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by lotsajizz on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:53am this is what I hear---it's definitely "trite confessions".... Can you believe it? I've won no medals in this love game. I've been resting on my laurels. I'm a bad loser. I'm a yard off my pace. I smelled rubber and I soon discovered that you'd gone for good. My indiscretions made a bad impression. Guess I was misunderstood. I thought you needed my lovin', but its my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. I started asking around, but your friends' pretty lips were sealed I wrote a letter, full of trite confessions about wounds that heal. I heard some gossip you'd become an alcoholic and were drying out. So I phoned every clinic in the yellow pages, not a trace about! I thought you needed my lovin', but its my heart that you stole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul. I ain't quitting. but I'm close to admitting I'm a sorry case, but on quiet reflection my sad rejection's not a total disgrace. But I do miss your quick repartee and the smile and the looks on your face. You'll be a tough act to follow, a bitter pill to swallow, you'll be tough to replace. I thought you wanted my lovin', but its my heart that you stole. You were a trick up my sleeve, my ace in the hole. I thought you wanted my money, but you plundered my soul |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:17am ODonExile wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:59am:
Thanks !!! Ok, the first song sounds like new Jagger vocals to me. These samples are interesting. Now I'm getting excited. I might even buy it. Anyway, Mick Taylor is on a new 2010 Rolling Stones song, that will surely get broadcast radio play. That's a big f-ing deal !!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:18am LadyJane wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:45am:
No shit, me either....! I've gone throught my phases and thought I would never get this excited again about a "new" Stones release.....it's exhilarating and I'm not sure what that says about my life, but damn... this is reminds me of just how sublime the Stones are. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:21am
I've been listening to the Mickboy remaster for weeks now.
I really still find it so hard to fathom that these tracks are finally seeing the light of day after all these years. Here's hoping the sales action on this will spark more to get released in the future. If Jagger re-works or adds vocals & this is what it takes to get new product out, I do not see this as a bad thing, from what I've heard so far... As was once written...."What a beautiful buzz!" |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:28am Nellcote wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:21am:
Right on Nellcote!! Those MickBoy versions are all amazing. I heard things in "Winter" that I never noticed before. They're just EQ jobs, right? Better than the official releases to my ears . . . |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:32am fuman wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:28am:
The strings, Nicky's piano are more up front....and they're sublime.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:44am LadyJane wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 10:45am:
Yes. It's freaking great. The Jagger vocal seems a little out-of-place at first but as the song hits the chorus it locks in nicely. MT sounds fantastic. Background vocals chime in beautifully. Lyrics almost sound inspired by Ronnie's recent troubles. This needs a proper workout on my home stereo. Bring on the rest! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:57am ODonExile wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:59am:
Best first post EVER! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 16th, 2010 at 12:02pm
+1
Mick uses the same faint/ghost/Keith's exile vocal trick on Aladin Story too, I suppose Keith had better things to do than come and record that part, what a slacker... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 16th, 2010 at 12:22pm
Damn. I always felt 'Dancing In The Light' had great potential. I think I was right.
For anyone who wasn't sure, the samples on that Youtube clip posted by ODOnExile are : 'Pass The Wine', 'I Aint Signifying', 'Dancing In The Light', 'So Divine (Aladdin Story)', 'Following The River' and (I presume) 'Title 5'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 16th, 2010 at 12:41pm
I'm digging those samples.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 16th, 2010 at 12:44pm
So Divine, my god!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Riffhard on Apr 16th, 2010 at 12:54pm
Damn! We are in for a real treat! I just hope that Mick gets it and understands that this is what Stones' fans want. I'm so sick of Mick trying to be so au courant. Not that it will make much difference as I have little faith that the Stones will grace us with another fully new disk and tour, but damn this is the kind of stuff that made them the band that they are! I guess it's hard to keep the fire in the belly when you have 750 million in the bank.
Really digging what I'm hearing now though, and yes Gazza, Dancing In The Light sounds sublime. Can't wait to get this on-the-air and tell all the Nickelback fans to suck it! LOL! Riffy |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on Apr 16th, 2010 at 1:06pm Gazza wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 12:22pm:
Wow. Just wow. This is great. Even Title 5 is one funky ass jam. I'm salivating like a Pavlov dog. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 1:20pm New, old, whatever, damn those clips sound good... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Apr 16th, 2010 at 1:37pm
Pass over the Exile so I can smoke it. That's some good shit.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 1:57pm
I have not had as good a Friday in a long time.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on Apr 16th, 2010 at 2:12pm
I was just listening to SO DIVINE today (the instrumental) always wondered what it was...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 16th, 2010 at 2:24pm Paranoid Android wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 2:12pm:
Its always been bootlegged as 'Aladdin Story' as thats the title that it had on the 'Trident Mixes' acetate. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 16th, 2010 at 2:39pm
"Pass the Wine" seems like the most fully realized and seamless of the doctor-ups. Really cool tune... Like I figured I would, I'm warming up to the stuff. The one I'm most disappointed by is the Keith "Soul Survivor." I wasn't expecting anything earth-shattering, but I love Keith's version of "You Got Me Rocking" ...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Apr 16th, 2010 at 2:53pm ODonExile wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:59am:
Well, bless yer soul. I wasn't too crazy about "PMS" - the mix is horrible and tinny - but this shit rocks just like it should! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 16th, 2010 at 3:55pm
nice donexile....
i wish she rat was here.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Apr 16th, 2010 at 5:00pm
hmmmmmmmm guys..not really that impressed...snippets i know and I'll wait but nothing grabs me really.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Apr 16th, 2010 at 5:09pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 1:20pm:
they sure do. Thanks oDonExile! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 16th, 2010 at 5:46pm Looks like the 'Plundered My Soul' 7" will be a hot item on Record Store Day. S'posed to be 1000 hand number copies available between all stores. Guy at my local indie store wouldn't say how many they'll have, but did say they didn't get what they ordered. Also said they've gotten a lot of calls for it, and will limit them to 1 per customer - "so be here when we open"... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:03pm
Is "Record Store Day" US only or will that 7" see the light of day in Europe too ?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:32pm
Its in the UK as well, hence the UK 7' release.. Dont know about the continent.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:34pm gimmekeef wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 5:00pm:
dude?!? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:36pm ODonExile wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:59am:
well above the rim |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:37pm texile wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:43am:
It sounds great now- much better speakers. Wow! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:58pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 5:46pm:
i just read on SF Forum, that they are numbered in the 3,ooo's. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 16th, 2010 at 7:50pm Pdog wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 6:58pm:
we post anywhere man |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 16th, 2010 at 7:51pm
It's an instant classic
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:13pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 7:51pm:
After five or six listens I agree !!! Now I'm starting to feel sorry for Ronnie. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:51pm
Woody will be fine.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:22pm
Who else caught Nicky's little walk-down of sixths on "Following the River"—note for note like "Jealous Guy"?!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:48pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 8:51pm:
woody hasn't been ok since 1985 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:17pm
We need a leak soon. I can't make it to May. I need rehab.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 16th, 2010 at 11:18pm Pdog wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:48pm:
Has it really been that long? How did Keef make it this far? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 17th, 2010 at 4:02am
Yes, that's when he was freebasing, you'll not that his contributions have been nil since. Sad to say but they should have tossed him at that point like they threatened to.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by exile on Apr 17th, 2010 at 4:27am
It’s Obviously Micks recent vocals, which is a tiny shame, but only tiny.
But overall a really nice song can’t get it out of my head. I love it. Only getting better the more I listen. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 17th, 2010 at 6:38am
Based on what I've heard, all new vocals except maybe "I Ain't Signifying" which is not a surprise since it's the only one with vocals that had been booted.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on Apr 17th, 2010 at 8:37am ODonExile wrote on Apr 16th, 2010 at 9:59am:
OMG |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 17th, 2010 at 9:27am
Trying to Make a Record in the Führerbunker: Mick Jagger and Keith Richards on Exile on Main St
On April 16, 2010 at 3:20 PM Here's what's important about the tenth Rolling Stones album, Exile on Main St (originally released in 1972, newly reissued with the customary payload of rediscovered, historically-interesting-but-arguably-superfluous bonus material appended to its already-sprawling tracklist.) If somebody tells you a band sounds like the Rolling Stones, it might mean they play the same artfully sloppy mix of cigarette-dangling loose-noose boogie and shooting-gallery blues the Stones achieved on Exile—but, especially these days, it could just as easily mean they're really into "Miss You" and Some Girls. But when rockers try to live like the Rolling Stones, they're almost always striving to replicate the malignant glamour of the Exile era, when the band—on the run from the cops, the tax man, and a lot of bad post-'60s juju—jetted to the South of France, threw an endless cocktail party in a rented villa that had supposedly been a Gestapo headquarters during World War II, and periodically repaired to the cellar (a space so humid that the band's guitars wouldn't stay in tune) to record songs about despair and decay. Although "Happy" and "Tumbling Dice" remain fixtures of ÿthe band's stadium set lists, most of Exile sounds too weird and mysterious to be the work of rock's first major corporation. The production, lo-fi before lo-fi was invented, buries Mick Jagger's vocals; Richards's barking, slashing leads drop in and out of the mix; the sweetest love song is an ode to fugitive radical Angela Davis; weariness and trouble hang heavy in the air. It's the kind of album that makes cultists, inspires homage. New York noiseniks Pussy Galore covered the whole thing—on cassette!—in 1986; Liz Phair claimed to have sequenced her first record, Exile in Guyville, as a song-by-song response. And when Leo DiCaprio sends a CD of incriminating wiretaps to Matt Damon in The Departed, guess which jewel case he sticks it in. We discussed all this with Mick and Keith, separately, in March. (Interviewing Mick about the Rolling Stones is like interviewing Mick's business manager about the Rolling Stones. Interviewing Keith Richards is exactly as awesome as you imagine it would be.) I. MICK Mick Jagger: Have we ever spoken before? GQ:[sort of taken aback] Um—no, we have not. MJ: Right. Over the years, you get interviewed by lots of people, so if you speak to them, like, eight years later, you can't remember... GQ: Plus, you've been interviewed about 45,000 times. MJ: And you've probably spoken to so many people as well. GQ: I'm guessing the number is higher on your end, though. MJ: So we're going to chat about Exile on Main Street? GQ: Yes. Okay. So, over the years, the Stones have made a great many brilliant albums. A great many successful albums. Yet there's a mythology surrounding Exile that is unlike anything else in the catalog. Why do you think that is? MJ: I suppose it has to do with the story of how it was made. I remember, when it came out, it was not particularly well received, so it got to grow this sort of critical and public reputation due to these polls that they did, in music magazines like Rolling Stone. So it sort of grew as people talked about it. And when it came out, it was sort of—it was just because there were so many tracks. It was so long and hard to get into. I think it was just general laziness. Then people started to like it. GQ: So when you're saying "how it was made," you're referring to the stories about the process? MJ: About how we made it in the south of France and all that sort of thing. There was quite a lot of that, and it was really sort of a difficult period. I don't really understand, to be perfectly honest. GQ: So it was a difficult period. From what I've read about the band, that sort of seems to be the consensus. It seems like for you guys, making the record was a frustrating experience. MJ: It was frustrating, and it took quite a long period of time. A lot of the tracks were not made in the south of France. They were tracks we'd made or hadn't finished, or hadn't released on the previous album, Sticky Fingers, before we moved to France. Exile was recorded under a lot of difficult circumstances, and in what was not a very good recording place. It was a bit uphill. In retrospect, when I was forced to look at it when we were going to re-release the album, I saw that the time that we spent in the studio wasn't really that long. It didn't go on for years, and years and years. It wasn't—what was that Axl Rose album that went on for 15 years? GQ: Chinese Democracy, yes. MJ: [laughs] Exactly! It wasn't Chinese Democracy. It was only six or seven months. And there were so many drug problems, and we had problems getting into the United States, so it was all sort of uphill and difficult. There were all sorts of other outside forces that were trying to take up time and energy. So that definitely made it more frustrating than just doing a record. And then we were preparing for a tour—and when we did the tour and the songs, everything was fine. GQ: Has the role of drugs in the making, or the not-making of the record, been overstated? MJ: I don't know it was such a long time ago. It was different. It was a very druggy period for lots of people, including us. Keith particularly was being arrested quite regularly, if I remember rightly. He couldn't go to certain places, nor could I. You know I had bonds from a previous thing that were still being enforced. So that was very, very difficult. And we wanted to go to the United States and finish the record. And it was a pretty druggy period—but how it really held up the record isn't actually possible to say. You can't say that if we drank two fewer bottles of whiskey, we would have finished the track two hours faster. [laughter] GQ: You can't speculate, like, "Oh, yeah—one bottle of whiskey probably would have gotten the job done here." MJ: It wouldn't have had to go on 'til three in the morning—but you can't, y'know. But it was part of making the record. You know, a lot of the record was made in a big house, in a sort of big social circumstance. It wasn't made in a studio. Making records in a studio can concentrate you—in a studio, you're just going to do one thing. It makes it more finite. You've got a deadline and that sort of thing. When you move into a house and you don't have a deadline—the process, the whole thing, and all the people, it's just a longer piece of string. It's the same with film—they just don't really want to stop. It's such a good time. Why would you want to stop? You need someone to say, "OK—that's it, now." And we weren't doing that ourselves, so it probably went on a bit longer than it needed to. GQ: So you did all this stuff in France, and then you took all of the material to Los Angeles to kind of piece it together. MJ: Yes. And also a lot of things were recorded in England, at least half a dozen tracks. GQ: And when you actually started piecing it together and listening to it—even in its finished form, it's this very swampy, very strange record. Listening to the basic tracks, did you feel like, "Dear God—what have we been doing for the past six or seven months?" MJ: You always get to a point, when you're making anything, when you love it, love it, love it and then—"Oh, it's crap." It's that moment, when it's not as good as you think. Then you get a bit down about it all, and you come back when you've finished something and see that you're pleased with it. So it's a long process, really. GQ: You've been quoted more than once over the years as saying this isn't your favorite Stones record. MJ: [groaning] All these things come back to haunt me. I think it's because everyone was saying, "It's the greatest thing, it's the greatest thing," so I just felt like, Well, all right. You never want to deny people their favorite album. But I would always just be slightly—I was just being annoying, you know? It's not really my favorite, it's your favorite. But who knows? I don't really have a favorite. There's a lot of great Rolling Stones albums. Exile is the longest, and it's got the most songs, so you've got more to choose from. There's lots of songs we've done over the years and still do on stage, but others we've really never done on stage, too. GQ: Were there things about it that you'd always wanted to fix, things you were unhappy with? At one point, you said that you'd always wanted to remix it and see what would happen. MJ: Yeah, one of the things people always said about Exile was that the mix was kind of weird. But that's the thing that people fall in love with—we'll never change that mix. But one of the things I did was, I had to remaster it for this rerelease for Universal. In fact, I remastered all the Rolling Stones albums, one after the other, basically. Some of them I remastered eight, ten years before for a previous record company, and when I listened to them again, I thought some of them were great, and some of them were really not very good. And then you start analyzing again, "That sounds like a real mess. Well, I can't do anything with that, there's no bass, no vocals, it's just a mess, a disaster." And some of the mixes were just messy, there's no clarity. I love the idea of remixing some tracks, just to see what they sound like, but to be honest, I didn't remix any of these tracks for this release. GQ: So what was it like to go back and listen to the original masters again? MJ: I only listened to it for the sonic quality. You get drawn into the performance, but you're supposed to be listening to see if it's as good as the previous mastering. Because you're cutting for so many different platforms—the CD's got so much more clarity than the one you mastered before, because of different bitrates. Then you've got MP3 and other, better-sounding digital things. You get drawn in by certain things you've never heard, but you're not supposed to be listening to that. [laughs] Not really. What I was really involved in more, time-wise was listening to these tracks that hadn't been released before. That was the most time-consuming thing for me—the mastering was really quick. GQ: So this new material—my understanding is that it's stuff that was recorded during the Exile era. How finished were the new tracks when you left them? What state were they in? MJ: They weren't finished. None of them had vocals on, which is probably one of the reasons they never came out or whatever. We had so many tracks, but—this is what I said to you before—I could've finished them, but I didn't. Either I didn't have any ideas, or I couldn't be bothered or whatever—they're unwieldy in some way. They were very much like any other Rolling Stones song then or now, to be honest. You'd listen to them and you'd go, "Okay, so that needs a vocal, and that's the chorus, this is that." Some were pretty much together, and some were less together. And you just treat them if they were new, to be perfectly honest. It's always a bit odd to revisit things, but after you get used to them, it doesn't really matter if they were done last week or thirty-five, forty years ago. GQ: It creates some interesting juxtapositions, though. You've got a forty- year-old guitar part... MJ: Yeah, and a vocal I did recently. It just took a long time to finish. [laughs] GQ: Now it's finally done. MJ: It's kind of interesting, the process. It sounds a bit weird, but to be honest, if someone had sent me these tracks and told me, "You did those two years ago"—the process is exactly the same. It's not the best way of writing songs. My favorite way of writing songs is to have the melody and at least most of the lyrics while the music's there, but sometimes it happens that it isn't like that, and a lot of people work like that, that sometimes you have to write to a finished track. It happens like that and you just do it. GQ: Did listening to the tracks again bring back memories for you, of that time? MJ: A lot of times, I remembered where they were done or where I was sitting. And some of them I just didn't remember at all. I was playing guitar or something, and I don't remember any of it. Where was that recorded? So I tried to find out where it was recorded and when. They weren't all recorded in the same place. Some of them I really remembered, but some I didn't remember at all. Some of them were really together—maybe the one you've heard, it was called "Plundered my Soul," that was perfect, you didn't have to edit, it was all perfect. Some of the others were much more loose jams. GQ: But given that it was such a turbulent time for the band, and for you too, going back to it must've been— MJ: There's all this ancient gossip, but then when you actually hear it, you go, "That was really well-played. It doesn't sound like we were going through any traumatic moments. What's all that bollocks? Everybody is perfectly in tune. One, two, three—you hear the count and off you go." And it's done. It seems like the band was playing pretty well even though it was a turbulent time. GQ: Post-Exile, it seems like the Stones became a much more professional operation, in terms of touring and recording. MJ: See, I think the watershed time for that, the dawn of professionalism, was the 1969 tour, even though it had a really bad ending, ultimately. That was, you know, the dawn of arena tours and organized sounds and lights and all that sort of thing, and it just got more and more professional as it went along, really. Professional being one way of putting it. It was a much more organized touring business. The recording studio part of it was to be honest very similar to any recording studio. Sometimes the studio albums were really organized, and some less so. But the touring part of it I guess got to be more and more organized from '69 onwards. GQ: But was that in any way a response to the frustration of the Exile experience, where you spent a lot of time waiting for people to turn up and things like that? MJ: That sort of thing is really a result, to some extent, of doing it in someone's house, you know. Bigger Bang was done in a house as well, more or less. But after that we didn't record in houses. GQ: Clearly, that was not the most efficient way of doing things. MJ: I don't know that we deliberately didn't record in houses again. But after that, we went into studios more, I think. I don't think we recorded in a house with that mobile unit we had after that again. GQ: There are a lot of bootlegs and outtakes from the Exile period floating around. Is there stuff on this reissue that fans who've sought out the bootleg material will have heard? MJ: There are a lot of tracks floating around, but not with the current vocals on them, because they didn't exist. We tried to use tracks that hadn't been so heavily bootlegged. I did find one of the tracks, "Aladdin Story"—that was actually recorded note-for-note by some other band. I was really surprised to find this outtake—someone got the bootleg and they just recorded it. I can't remember the name of the band. [It was Death in Vegas.] GQ: What it sounds like you're saying is that to some extent, the legend surrounding this record has been exaggerated. People have made too much of it. MJ: I'm not saying people have made too much of it. We made this documentary film about the making of Exile, and I had to sort of think it through, what I thought the story was, to tell the director what I think it was. What did it entail, when was it really, which time period does it really encompass. I think it was very involved. But to say it was all difficult is bullshit. It wasn't difficult. It was full of mad activity, creativity. Yeah, there was outside trouble of all different nature, it was a time of change—but what time isn't? People getting married, like me, other people having loads of children. A lot of things happened. It was like a three-year period, you know? It started when Exile—the first track on Exile, "Loving Cup"—when that was done in London, in the end of 1969, so that's why I said that's when Exile begins for me, and it goes on until 1972 when it's finished, or whenever the last date in the mixing was, that's the end of Exile because everything after that isn't Exile. So that was a long period, and loads of stuff happened, and it wasn't all bad. Some of it was fantastic. It was very full of incident, but it wasn't all angst, when you see the photographs everybody's having a wonderful time. You can paint it as this degrading experience, but it really doesn't look like that when you look at it. There were definite moments of ailment and despondency, but it really wasn't like that when you look at the footage, the pictures, the things that people said, the interviews they gave. You might focus in on a snapshot period, of maybe two months, and say that was a bit difficult. But I'm looking at it from a three-year perspective. GQ: And in any three-year period... MJ: A lot happens to people in three years, you know, and it's not all bad. All kinds of stuff! It's kind of interesting. It's not correct to say that it's exaggerated, but it's much more involved than just, sort of, "They took a lot of drugs, and it was a difficult record to make." I don't think it's correct. For me, it's like a bullshit sort of headline in the tabloids, you know what I mean? It's much more complicated than, "Oh, they were out of it, and ad a hard time making up songs." GQ: You had just gotten married when you started making this record. MJ: Yeah, during the making of the record, right at the beginning of the French part of it. And then Keith had, I think, two children in this period. GQ: That's probably part of it too—the fact that you were suddenly men with wives and families probably complicated things as much as the debauchery did. MJ: Yeah, it was a growing-up thing. I think Mick Taylor also had a baby at this point. So when you saw a picture, it was full of children and families and so on, in this recording situation, which we'd never had before. It was not at all like the life of the Rolling Stones to have children—it was a completely new experience. So that's all very different, you know, and much more mature, if you want. GQ: Were there moments of joy? Has that been underreported? MJ: I think that's what I'm trying to say. Not using that word, it's a bit [mockingly] "A joyous experience!" But, definitely, there were those moments. There were at least three children being born during this period. So that was very lovely, and different, at that time. It was a wonderful period, a very creative period, but it also had its problems, some of them practical, some personal, and so on. GQ: My sense is that it was not the greatest period, in terms of your relationship with Keith. MJ: I think the Keith relationship thing wasn't bad at all. GQ: Really? MJ: Yeah, it was fine. I don't think it was an issue here. Keith might tell you differently, but I mean, as far as I could see—obviously we had disagreements about the songs, but that was normal. If you all think exactly the same, that's not how any band works, as far as I can see. What I can see, from looking at all this stuff, is that the biggest problems were a change of management, and problems with visas and general kind of practical problems. Tax problems, money problems due to all these previous things that had gone on that I don't really want to elaborate on. Too boring. But there was an accumulation of practical problems that had to be constantly dealt with, and my experience is when you're wrangled with people, with the tax people, it takes an enormous amount of energy. GQ: And pulls you away from the creative process. MJ: Yeah, it pulls you away from the creative process. And it's just very tiring and annoying and constantly invading your creative space to get all this together, and getting a tour on. I think we were touring with a tour manager so a lot of new things were going on, personnel and all that. So it was a time of change, a lot of changes. GQ: The one thing that keeps coming up is that this ended up being a record about the end of the Sixties, or the hangover from the Sixties. As you were writing this, were you thinking about that. Were you looking back on the era you had been through, personally or in a larger sense? MJ: I don't think you can do that when you're making music, I don't think any of that is conscious. I really can't see it. Especially as it straddles such a long period. The only sort of slightly, vaguely conscious decision that we could've made is that it was going to be quite a tough-sounding album. Not too much sentimentality or ballads or anything like that. In fact, there aren't any ballads. There's no soft edges about Exile on Main Street. Even the slow songs—"Loving Cup" is kind of getting there, but it's not "Angie." "Shine a Light" is very tough. It's a very tough record. I don't think that speaks to anything historical, or letting-go-of-a-decade or anything like that. I don't think we thought because it's in the seventies, it's got to be different. I certainly don't remember that. But there's an inherent feeling that it's sort of tough and hard. GQ: Yeah, and it's regrouping into the sound of just a band in a room. MJ: Yeah, up to a point, although you've got quite a lot of keyboards and you've got horns and stuff. And you've got background vocal girls, which you didn't have much on the Sticky Fingers record, I think I'm right in saying. So you do have a lot of additional musicians actually live in the studio, rather than calling them up and having them overdub in a couple of days, they're all hanging around the whole time, so they're very involved in it. You have a lot of people, two or three people, two horn plays, then you have the overdubbed background vocals and so on. It's a different lineup. GQ: Having gone through this process, remastering and putting in the new songs, do you feel differently about it? MJ: Well, I certainly know a lot more about it [laughs]. I can speak about it for hours and bore everybody to death. GQ: It's not boring! People cannot get enough information about this record. MJ: I can bore people at the breakfast table about what I had to do on it. I know a lot about it, and I kind of appreciate it more. I can see the difficulties easier, but I can also see that some of it was easy and simple to do. It wasn't all uphill at all, by any means. I can tell, because I can listen to it and say, "That was only two takes." How difficult could that have been? So the angst and all that is bullshit. The angst part of it is hard to find. You can only find that in people's stories, you can find some of it in the film footage, but you can't find it when you're actually listening. But I know a lot more about it. I could write my thesis on it, if necessary. II. KEITH GQ: So we're going to talk about Exile. Keith Richards: Yeah. That dirty basement. GQ: Everybody goes to that dirty basement once in a while. It's the most famous dirty, sweaty basement in the history of rock. So, okay. The Rolling Stones have made a great many brilliant records, and a great many successful records—but Exile has a mythology surrounding it that nothing else in the catalog really has. Why do you think that is? KR: It's probably a combination of things. It was the first double album that we put out. There were so many firsts for the band—going abroad to record, and ending up in the basement studio of my house, as it turned out. The basement of my house was the only place we could fucking find. I think there's an atmosphere about it that has to do with that dirty, dark, dusty basement. I think the sound of that room is imprinted all over it. GQ: What do you remember about making the album? KR: I remember it was like trying to make a record in the Führerbunker. It was that sort of feeling you know—it was very Germanic down there for some reason. Swastikas on the staircase. And also, like all basements, it had never been used for anything. So basically it was a dirt floor and some concrete. If somebody got lost, there'd be a little trail of dust in the darkness. GQ: Was it kind of like a wine cellar? KR: It was a labyrinth, in actual fact. It was a concrete labyrinth, subdivided here and there, and we would go around testing to see which one had the best echo or was the best sound for a particular instrument. That sort of thing. But it was also sort of like the netherworld. Upstairs it was fantastic. Like Versailles. The south of France in the summer—la, la, la. Beautiful. Who could ask for anything more? But down there, it was another thing. It was Dante's Inferno. GQ: Do you remember it as a good time, for yourself and for the band? KR: Yeah I do. And always have. My feeling about it is this was really when the band stepped up to the plate. We'd made some great albums previously to that, but it was like, Now you're under the gun. Can you do this out of a normal environment? Outside of a studio? Not being in your own country? Can you actually pull this one off? It was a test. Being taken out of an environment that you know very well, and being told, "Now do it here!" These were incredibly difficult conditions to work in, and the guys stuck to it. That's one of the things about the record that is of lasting memory for me, basically—for the band, it was into the trenches, and we did it. GQ: There were also a lot of external factors that complicated things, right? KR: I was living on top of the factory. It saved the trips to parties—you just went upstairs! You didn't have to worry about going from the studio and saying, "Where are we going to hang now?" You went upstairs and there it was—a great French villa, people are passing by, and everybody's jolly. It's a breath of fresh air, to go up and have a drink. It was a weird feeling going up from the basement and into this very beautiful sort of villa. It was a piece of work, that place. GQ: Was there a perpetual party going on up there? KR: Pretty much. There were people passing through, Gram Parsons was there for a month or so. Robert Fraser. A lot of friends from England. Why not? Hey, come down. There was constant traffic. GQ: Why didn't Parsons play on the record? It seems like it could have happened, given the free-flowing atmosphere you're describing. KR: He'd be playing upstairs. When I wasn't in the studio, Mick and I would be playing with Gram. I think Gram really did not want to intrude. I think he really deliberately didn't want to push himself forward in any way as being part of the record. I think he just wanted to watch how we did it and how we were going to get out of this thing. I think it was just a matter of respect, really. He didn't think it was his place, let's put it that way. Gram wasn't that way. I think the only way it could have happened is if we said, "Hey, Gram. We need another guitar here." But Gram's a gentleman, and he saw we knew what we were doing and didn't want to be distracted. I think he just read it right. GQ: Mick has said Exile is not his favorite of the Stones records. You've always spoken really highly of it. KR: Everybody has different tastes. I'm not saying it's my favorite, either. I just think that it's unique and that it stands the test of time damn well. And I also think Mick and I were right to stick to our guns and insist that it was a double album. We had a lot of hassles with the record company, because, of course, they wanted a single album, so to force them to do a double took endless sort of ranting and raving. GQ: It's not cost-effective to put out a double album, I assume. KR: Quite right. In the beginning, though sales were very good, it was nothing compared to a single album. But over the years, it certainly proved itself. And I always had a feeling about that record. I mean, we had no particular singles on it—we pulled some off, but there wasn't a "Brown Sugar" or "Honky Tonk Women." It was just sort of, We're exiled, baby, and this is how it goes. GQ: The myth surrounding the making of the record—has that been exaggerated? KR: Probably ten percent of whatever you heard is anywhere near it—all that debauchery and that kind of crap. We didn't have time! [laughs] We were fucking making a record. We were turning out two or three tracks a night sometimes. There was little time for debauchery. I'm not saying it never, never went on. But we were working. GQ: So this notion that sort of drugs were part of the process... KR: Of course they bloody well were! Are you kidding me? That was normal fuel. Of course drugs were around. GQ: You've said the stuff you produced during this period wouldn't have been better if you were straight. KR: No. I don't think it would make any difference. Would Charlie Parker had played better if he hadn't done the stuff? It's like, what came first, the chicken or the egg, honey? GQ: I guess so. Do you think it would have been worse, in a way? Was there something drugs allowed you to access that you wouldn't have been able to get to otherwise? KR: No. It felt natural then. And it still does. Whatever I was taking then or going through felt right. And after all, nobody else can judge me except me. GQ: Sure. I'm just curious about it. KR: Of course you are. [laughs] GQ: I think that's why most people are curious about this. We'll never live anything like that period. KR: You won't know what you missed. GQ: I guess not. KR: But it's not for everybody. It's not try-this-at-home shit. GQ: What are the drawbacks of recording in a space like that? I know you've said Jimmy Miller is the guy who deserves a medal for producing a record under these conditions. KR: Absolutely. Jimmy did an incredible job, especially under those circumstances. We had no control room. We had a mobile [recording] truck outside the front door. So every time we had a playback, it was like a ritual. And after a while you'd be down in the basement and say, "Do you want to hear that back," and we'd all look at each other and say, "Nah." We couldn't take the stairs anymore. So we'd say to Jimmy, "What are you think?" And he'd say, "I think it's a good one," and they'd say, "OK," and then you'd tramp up the stairs and check it out. It was a weird way of making a record, but it proved it can be done almost anywhere. It's much easier these days, actually. Given the equipment that was available in 1971, it was quite a feat. ÿ GQ: Anybody can make a record in a house on a laptop these days. KR: I've done several myself. But in those days, it was like the pyramids. GQ: A lot of the basic tracks were recorded in the South of France, but they were actually finished in L.A. My sense is the France stuff was you and the Los Angeles stuff was Mick. I know that's a simplification, but... KR: It is an incredible simplification. In those days, you couldn't really split apart who did what. We were both incredibly involved in laying down the tracks. And by the time we got to L.A., we kind of already knew what we wanted. We knew the record so well by the time we went in to do the over-dubs. So I can't go with any of the "This is Mick's and that was Keith's" bullshit. When we made records, Mick and I were tight. GQ: Really? Even on this one? Because everything I've heard is that you and Mick had problems. KR: Mick and I got along fine. We started to have problems in the '80s. World War Three—that's another story. GQ: We're cutting through the myths here, Keith. We're getting to the facts. KR: Like a knife through butter, baby. GQ: Because what I've read is that he was a little bit absent, because he has other things going on in his life. He was married, he was having a kid, and that created some tension between you guys... KR: No, not really. People read so many things into that. But my memory of the basement is of Mick being very, very intent and involved. It was the first time I let him play guitar! And once Mick and I get into making a record, we get very into it. We forget who we are, even. When Mick and I work, we really do work, and all the personality shit sort of goes out the window. GQ: So the things you don't get along over don't tend to be musical things. KR: Yeah but a lot of that tension is why we work together and a lot of the stuff that we've done works well. You know, it's an ongoing relationship. I just sent Charlie a note saying, "Charlie, what's Mick doing? Should I put an available ad in Jazz News or something, like, 'Guitar player available.'" I feel a bit itchy, you know. It's been a couple years. There's something inside you that just starts to scratch. GQ: Can we talk about the new stuff? There are a lot of people who think this record is perfect. Maybe the mix was muddy, maybe the vocals were low—but there are people who love that and consider it a perfect object. Why go back and change it? KR: On the actual record there's nothing changed at all. The new tracks, there are a few things done—I remember brushing on an acoustic guitar on one of them, because on the original, I apparently stopped playing halfway through. [laughs] And I finished off that bit. After 30 or 40 years. GQ: Why didn't the other tracks get finished back then? KR: We got as far as a double album, and some things you just chop off. We've done it I think with every album we've ever made. And a lot of those things get picked up again and they end up on the next album. I think a lot of the things on Goats Head Soup were ideas that came off Exile on Main St. But these ones were just forgotten. It's really nice to have a big, um, can. Things that you'd forgotten about. "Start Me Up" was one of them—that was 5 years old when we found it. The whole track. We'd forgotten we'd done it. [laughter] It's interesting when they say, "Let's see what's in the can," because you never know. GQ: Did it take you back, listening to these old master tapes again? Was it a time-machine sensation? KR: Yeah, a time machine, or time warp. When I'm listening to that stuff, I'm suddenly in the basement. It's more like time travel. We're getting close to Einstein here. GQ: Was there anything that you heard that made you say, "I can't believe that's me playing that?" KR: Oh, that happens quite a lot. I still don't know how I did "Sympathy for the Devil." I've never been able to replicate it or figure it out. Sometimes you just take off. You wait for those moments. And you don't really know how the hell you did it. GQ: Another thing people say about this record is that it's about the hangover from the '60s. The decade is over, and you're counting up the bodies and sorting out the consequences. KR: In 1971, I certainly wasn't thinking, "Oh, it's a new page" or "The '60s are over." Because the '60s were very different at the beginning than they were at the end. I had no sense of that decade in that way. I suppose in hindsight, you can see certain formations and changes in society—they're discernible. But so what? The 50s were incredibly different at the beginning than they were at the end. I remember '51 and it was a lot different than '59. So maybe some decades have that acceleration on, and others, not so much. I mean, we've had a lot of acceleration now. Technology is just incredible. God knows if we'll survive it. GQ: Yeah. It's getting to a worrisome place. KR: I think I'll need a helmet against it. GQ: Yeah, I was wondering about that. Can't I just get the new Exile beamed directly into my head? KR: Yeah. "Can I just think it, and it's there?" Pow! GQ: What does this album mean to you? KR: We survived. It was make or break, that record. If we couldn't have pulled it off, I don't know what would have happened. It was done because it had to be done. And almost in a sense of desperationm because it had to work. And at the same time, we knew we were stepping out on a limb. And then I think, "Hey, the Stones put out 'Little Red Rooster' in the '60s." Straight up country blues, and we got it to #1. Because we felt we owed it to where we learned our music. It was a crazy move to make then. So Exile was just another example of that sort of thing we do at times. We should do it more often. I'll talk to Mick about it. I'll jot it down. GQ: Exile is a tribute to the people you learned from, too. Classic American music. "Stop Breakin' Down" is a Robert Johnson cover. "Shake Your Hips" is Slim Harpo. KR: There was a mixture of American music, yeah. Because the Stones stuff always is. And I can understand that maybe because it was done in France—we did miss America, and it gave us a chance to digest and play some of the things we'd learned in America. GQ: And the cover art is from Robert Frank's The Americans. KR: I did the inside. GQ: You mean the inside photos? What did you do? KR: I said just use the track lists that we use in the studio. That was my input. GQ: Was that your handwriting, on those set lists? KR: Mine, or Mick's. — Alex Pappademas -http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/2010/04/trying-to-make-a-record-in-the-fhrerbunker-mick-jagger-and-keith-richards-on-exile-on-main-st.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on Apr 17th, 2010 at 9:49am
Thank ye Gazza.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 17th, 2010 at 9:51am
A good read, thanks. Mick doesn't sound like the Stones Manager though, these clichés are really annoying.
So Keith is pretending to be interested in making a new record ? SOS too, I mean why didn't he bother producing much (anything ?) of interest for ABB and for the new Exile songs? Sad... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 10:00am
Thanks Gazza-good read!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 17th, 2010 at 10:32am
Now that is what I call an interview. I love going back down into that basement with them.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on Apr 17th, 2010 at 11:27am
NICE!!! Is is so much better when you have Sir Mick talking to a Gentleman's magazine instead of some music rag like RS...it seems like the professional alter-ego kicks in and the Rocker motif is set aside a few minutes...
I thought the same of the Charlie interview in Details. The GQ writer did a fine job. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:13pm 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:17pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:13pm:
You scored!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:38pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:13pm:
After months of speculations, hopes, wants, and such...I guess this makes it all "OFFICIAL" and a reality for all of us!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nasty Habits on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:52pm Anyone else find it odd that a 7" with a 3000 numbered limited edition is numbered 6852? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:57pm Record Store Day site doesn't specify a quantity, just that they're "hand numbered". Some very neat handwriting on my copy... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 17th, 2010 at 2:14pm
Great interview. Very fascinating,getting a look into the process.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Boomy on Apr 17th, 2010 at 4:36pm
My copy is no. 2788
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 17th, 2010 at 5:00pm
i'm really enjoying listening to the new song...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 17th, 2010 at 6:57pm Nasty Habits wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:52pm:
Mine is numbered 7055 and Riffy's is 6013 which is wierd since we got them at the same store! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 17th, 2010 at 9:25pm Quite a few copies of the single available on ebay - including one guy who's selling it for $150 ... ::) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Apr 17th, 2010 at 10:03pm Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 9:27am:
Thank yuh...thank yuh vurrah much. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on Apr 18th, 2010 at 10:54am
Those interviews are fantastic!
Keith said "I just sent Charlie a note saying, "Charlie, what's Mick doing? Should I put an available ad in Jazz News or something, like, 'Guitar player available.'" I feel a bit itchy, you know. It's been a couple years. There's something inside you that just starts to scratch." TINGLE TINGLE |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:18am
Just how much did these record cost at the shops???
Those ebay auctions are so outrageous...for a "rare" single, there are currently 122 records up for auction |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:23am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:42am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:23am:
I have no turntable and likely never will again but I just ordered it!! Thanks leftie! Keith's got an itch...GOOD CAUSE I'VE GOT HIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:54am You should get No. 0001, LJ... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 18th, 2010 at 4:24pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 11:23am:
Where ? I thought I'd found it on Amazon but it was the CD Single ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 18th, 2010 at 4:34pm nankerphelge wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 10:54am:
Is Charlie the Stones' equivalent of Henry Kissinger ffs? Why doesnt Keith ask/fax Mick himself? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 18th, 2010 at 4:35pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 18th, 2010 at 4:54pm
Thanks, placed an order, apparently they'll contact me for approval of shipping rates since I'm in Europe...
@gazza - yes I'd pointed that out too, Keith is such a joke these days, he couldn't bothered to contribute much of interest for ABB, either songwriting wise or guitar parts and for the new Exile songs he apparently couldn't be bothered to sing the second/ghost vocals that Mick copied from the original Exile. They can be heard on PMS and AS. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:08pm
I got nothing and liked it.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:16pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 4:54pm:
In Keith's defense, I don't think he can hit those notes anymore. ... Not in his defense: He apparently took little interest in the project overall. His contributions are nil. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:19pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:16pm:
Yeah,it makes good copy to say it's time to get the boys back together and that kind of stuff. But it would help if actuallly actively particapted in the Rolling Stones these days. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:22pm
Keef must be pissed that Jagger is taking the lead on the project. From his perspective, I can totally see his point.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:28pm So he sends Charlie a note asking what Mick's up to? Please... That's a far cry from the Keith of a few months ago who talked about a new record - “I’m trying to gather the boys together,” he tells Rolling Stone. “One way or another, I’ll get them back in line.” |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:38pm
Yes, it looks more like someone who's sheepish because he hasn't done shit for years and is just cashing in on the hard work of others, Mick in this case...if he tells Mick it's time to get out and do something he's probably going to get asked if he's really serious about this time. It's possible that Mick's lost all patience/respect for Keith at this point, a bit like what happened to Jimmy Miller and countless others.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:00pm GotToRollMe wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 10:03pm:
yes Gazza.. another thankyee from me too! Good read indeed! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:25pm
My hunch is that Keith knows he doesn't have the stuff anymore—just like a ballplayer knows when his body won't do what it used to. Mick knows it, too. Keith's default setting is to bluster about "getting the boys in line," but it's all hackneyed pr at this point.
The fact that Mick agreed to do this says a lot. Do you think he would've spent time listening to outtakes if it weren't the last resort, so to speak? And he brings back Taylor! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:28pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 5:22pm:
If he is, its not like it was beyond him to get his finger out and do something about it! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:31pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
Hope that hunch is right. I'd hate to see Keef channeling Willie Mays-as-Met for the sake of one last roundup... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:36pm
He was getting there in 2007 ... maybe not Mays's last season, but Reggie's last with the A's :)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:40pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 4:35pm:
Thank you! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:52pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
Good point, hadn't thought of that.. On the other hand he'd already hinted several times before that he missed Taylor's guitar playing, particularly in that long Wenner interview in RS in 1995. He realized, a bit too late, that replacing Mick by Ronnie had been a mistake at least musically speaking. I suspect that's why he got more outside input for B2B and allowed Wachtel to play so much guitar, a winning move when you listen to SOM in particular, what a great guitar part. Best one since... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:55pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:52pm:
Absolutely. And I've said it here before: Wachtel would be a natural choice to replace Ronnie on the road. That would take a lot of pressure off of Keith... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 18th, 2010 at 7:56pm
IF KEITH RICHARDS NEVER EVER DOES "SHIT" AGAIN, HE SHOULD NEVER EVER BE DISREPECTED; FOR IF IT WERE NOT FOR BOTH MICK AND KEITH EQUALLY, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE DISCUSSING ANY OF THIS. THE YIN/YANG OF THE GLIMMER TWINS IS WHAT MADE THIS ENTIRE RIDE POSSIBLE.
Quite frankly I'm surprised (pleasantly) that Mick has taken the lead on this project so passionately. Will we get a Tour of some kind? I sure the Hell hope so. LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:07pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:55pm:
I for one wouldn't want Waddy on stage with the Stones. But I probably wouldn't go either way. Ronnie on bass for an entire concert might get me interested. His guitar style really fits bass riffs, IMO. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:08pm Gazza wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
Ha ! There's still time for that . Maybe Keith's next magazine interview? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:27pm Quote:
How come? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:31pm fuman wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:07pm:
Regardless, I don't think it's going to come to that. For the first time, I think things really and truly are up in the air. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by 2000monkey on Apr 18th, 2010 at 9:17pm
Stones final live project should be a residency to avoid traveling stress on skinny old guys with bad lungs, rotten livers, cancer surviving and cracked skulls.They could set up with Mick Taylor, Wyman (and Wood) plus a few guest stars. Run through everything, get some killer footage and recordings in the can and call it a day. Time is getting short..damn!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 18th, 2010 at 9:20pm StPeteStone wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:27pm:
He's certainly a very good/great player. But I didn't like his work on Keith's solo LP. I've listened to a whole lot of Waddy on early Warren Zevon shows (and others), and although I agree he can play, I don't like what it does to the Stones sound. Does that make sense? Whenever I hear Waddy, I'm taken back to Zevon's sound/style of music. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 18th, 2010 at 9:22pm Mel Belli wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 8:31pm:
I get that sense too. But a Mick and Keith small venue acoustic tour would be FANTASTIC. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 18th, 2010 at 10:27pm fuman wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 9:20pm:
Interesting. His work with Keith is really my only exposure to him. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Apr 19th, 2010 at 12:01am LadyJane wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 7:56pm:
Agreed. :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:05am Quote:
Interesting. His work with Keith is really my only exposure to him. [/quote] Same here and also on B2B, can't get over that SOM guitar part ;-) Makes me want to check out Warren Zevon ;-) Switching Ronnie to bass would certainly be interesting versus the current Darryl "the subwoofer" Jones ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on Apr 19th, 2010 at 5:08am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:09am
Ronnie is a fully fledged Stone, so i dont know if they can sack him. These days, he could sue their asses! But what would be wrong with Blondie getting the flick, Waddy coming in, Ronnie clowing around, and M.T. guesting on 3-4 songs?
It wont happen of course. But, all this Exile stuff does is make you miss Taylor even more. Ronnie might need another Russian chick to get over it all. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:34am corgi37 wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:09am:
So was Brian Jones - and they sacked him, even though he even founded the band. They're technically ALL 'sackable'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:45am
Can't fire Ronnie, he'll be needed when they give Some Girls the Exile Deluxe treatment.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:21am
SG you crack me up so bad all the time...
:wow Did you guys read the GQ interview of Mick & Keith Re Exile article from over on Iorr that someone posted? yet? QUITE GOOD http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/2010/04/trying-to-make-a-record-in-the-fhrerbunker-mick-jagger-and-keith-richards-on-exile-on-main-st.html unpacking.jpg (75 KB | ) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:46am LadyJane wrote on Apr 18th, 2010 at 7:56pm:
True... they each play their part, and Mick needs keith, even though it drains him... and Keith def. is one of the few, who knows how to penetrate Micks ego and deflate it... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 19th, 2010 at 2:32pm Pdog wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:46am:
I would've loved to be a fly on the wall during some of thier conversations over the years. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 19th, 2010 at 3:52pm Paranoid Android wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 11:27am:
Yeah, The RS interview gave me nothing as it never does, just a rehash of the standard iconography.... This guy really got Jagger to do more than talk in circles..and in return, he got Jagger to actually suggest that Exile was more than drugs and confusion, but some good times. Nice to finally know that. Exile has always been deemed the "drugs and sordid goings-on" album. Keith, I think, tends to glorify that aspect of it....but Jagger, Charlie, Bill, Taylor were doing other things, like having families and living and working and making music. Exile captured that as well. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:16pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:31pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:00pm:
Geez Wally, did I really write that? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:43pm Nellcote wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
you were lit |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:56pm Tumbled wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:21am:
Posted it already on page 31 of this thread, tumbled.. [smiley=thumbup.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:58pm Gazza wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:56pm:
you just missed the Voodoo scoop- |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 19th, 2010 at 5:46pm
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/04/19/never-before-heard-track-by-the-rolling-stones-to-debut-during-the-seventh-season-finale-of-cold-case-on-sunday-may-2/20100419cbs02/
Stones on Cold Case.... I actully like this show.....and always loved how they use music as plot points. Unlike most shows, the producers know their stuff, so if the episode is set in july 1980, you're going to hear songs from July 1980... The promo shit is just getting started, but for once, I'm not bitching. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:02pm texile wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 5:46pm:
Well according to that press release,they're going to be playing Stones music from all different periods. :-/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:11pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:02pm:
They played Monkey Man on How I met your Mother last week. Adds nothing but its all I had. :smilestu |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:20pm The NBA Playoffs are using 'Rip This Joint'... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bingo on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:22pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:20pm:
They should be using "Street Fighting Man" the way things are going today in the NBA. :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Apr 19th, 2010 at 8:25pm
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/04/19/never-before-heard-track-by-the-rolling-stones-to-debut-during-the-seventh-season-finale-of-cold-case-on-sunday-may-2/20100419cbs02/
:areyoufuckingserious [04.19.10 - 01:35 PM] NEVER-BEFORE-HEARD TRACK BY THE ROLLING STONES TO DEBUT DURING THE SEVENTH SEASON FINALE OF "COLD CASE," ON SUNDAY, MAY 2 Released by CBS [NOTE: The following article is a press release issued by the aforementioned network and/or company. Any errors, typos, etc. are attributed to the original author. The release is reproduced solely for the dissemination of the enclosed information.] NEVER-BEFORE-HEARD TRACK BY THE ROLLING STONES TO DEBUT DURING THE SEVENTH SEASON FINALE OF "COLD CASE," ON SUNDAY, MAY 2 The Episode Will Exclusively Feature Music Recorded by the Rolling Stones, Including Several Classic Tunes The Never-Before-Heard Song, "So Divine (Aladdin Story)," Is One of 10 New Tracks on the Legendary Band's Exile on Main Street Album, to be Re-Released on May 18 Music by the iconic Rolling Stones, including a never-before-heard track, will rock exclusively throughout the seventh season finale of COLD CASE, Sunday, May 2 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. The song, "So Divine (Aladdin Story)," will be one of 10 never-before-heard bonus Stones tracks to be included when their classic album, Exile on Main Street, is re-released on May 18. The episode's additional songs are "Tumbling Dice" (also from Exile on Main Street), "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)," "Beast of Burden," "Slave," "Undercover of the Night" and "Winter." Exile on Main Street is widely regarded as one of the greatest albums in rock 'n' roll history and is one of the most definitive in the Stones' catalog. The 10 previously unheard tracks to be featured in the re-released album were originally recorded during the Exile era, and were recently discovered while working on the reissue project. These tracks have undergone a unique evolution while staying true to the essence of the 1972 album. In the episode (aptly-titled "Shattered"), Valens (Danny Pino) joins forces with Rush (Kathryn Morris) to track down her abducted drug-addicted sister (Nicki Aycox) as Jeffries (Thom Barry) looks into a new lead on the case of a murdered teenaged girl that has haunted him for 17 years. Erica Hubbard ("Lincoln Heights") plays the victim in Jeffries' case, and Kevin Chapman ("Brotherhood") portrays one of the original officers who worked on it. The episode was directed by Jeannot Szwarc. "We jumped at the chance to marry the Rolling Stones' sound to picture, to really drive home the story in our season finale," said series executive producer Greg Plagemen, who co-wrote the episode with Elwood Reid, one of the series' co-executive producers. "The Exile era was a thing of dark beauty, and the unreleased track in the episode has that grit and swagger you expect from the Stones. A few of the bigger hits are in the episode, but Elwood and I are Stones junkies and also managed to slip in a few obscure gems and personal favorites. The music to picture really grabs you by the throat; we hope the episode leaves viewers gasping for more." Past single-artist episodes of COLD CASE have featured the music of Ray Charles, John Lennon, Frank Sinatra, Nirvana, Johnny Cash, John Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen, Tim McGraw, U2, Bob Dylan, Santana, Bob Seger, The Doors, Pink Floyd, and, in the two-part sixth season finale, Pearl Jam. COLD CASE stars Kathryn Morris, Danny Pino, John Finn, Jeremy Ratchford, Thom Barry and Tracie Thoms. It is produced by Jerry Bruckheimer Television in association with CBS Television Studios and Warner Bros. Television. Jerry Bruckheimer, Jonathan Littman, Meredith Stiehm, Jennifer Johnson and Greg Plageman are the executive producers. the wheels are def in motion. The Boys are BACK :wow :wow |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 19th, 2010 at 9:36pm
the wheels are def in motion. The Boys are BACK
Well the PR machine is in motion. The boys themselves,not so much. :will-ya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:08pm eric wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 5:08am: On behalf of myself and all the Keith girls on RO, I salute you! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:28am 'Stones In Exile' will be shown at next month's Cannes Film Festival. Reports are that the band is expected to attend. No information on their plans for kissing c***... expatica.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:37pm
How long is the doc...? So it must be feature-length.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:40pm 2.5 hrs |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:50pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:28am:
Yes, I cant imagine Cohl will even show up. If they attend, it'd be a bit interesting to see if Bill and Mick Taylor will be there too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:55pm Cheeky... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:56pm
kissing cunt in cannes, a great lyric, and a movie about exile playing at the festival there...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:58pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:16pm:
i just hit the link, and it is listed at 17.99 now.... those price guarentess are good when you get on them in time.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 2:00pm Well, as with Super Deluxe, their prices are anything but stable... :wtf3 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 2:04pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 2:00pm:
patience usually gets me the best deal... this i may p/u in a store... i have a feeling it will be cheap at best buy, i alos am hoping for blu-ray... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 20th, 2010 at 2:23pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 1:50pm:
Well Taylor will be touring in the U.S. at the time and if Bill shows up,they'll probably just airbrush him out anyway. :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 2:49pm Nice frame grabs from the 'PMS' video at the production company's website - FilmTecknarna Got me some new wallpaper... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 20th, 2010 at 3:13pm
http://www.4rfv.co.uk/industrynews.asp?id=110127
A little something on the guy who directed the video.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2010 at 3:22pm
The same guy who did the superb 'Windows in The Skies' video for U2. Seems to specialise in montage-type films then! Nice.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:00pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 3:22pm:
Gazza! I've been waiting for your expertise in all things Stones: Who was that black chick with the big afro on tour with Keith in 72? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:21pm Isn't that Marsha Hunt in the video clip? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:31pm
via the Stones' official facebook page. Direct from the printers - "Exile deluxe in the making"
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:42pm texile wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:00pm:
The two names I've seen mentioned are Marsha Hunt and Angela Davis. I'm not convinced it's either. I've never heard of Marsha being on the road with the Stones, and I doubt she would have been after Mick had got married to Bianca. Angela Davis wasnt as pretty as the girl who is in the video. Probably a crew member/make up girl, I would guess. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by open-g on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:49pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
What? You have to make it yourself? :forfucksake ok, when's the creative handicraft day then? I need to get some UHU from the shops first. :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:25pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:42pm:
Maybe just a backstage visit from baby mama? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:35pm
There was footage of the girl putting some "makeup" on Keith, more like paint.....and also rubbing his back as he shoots up.....lol.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:51pm
Gazza, Gazza, Gazza....
I'm hearing the 45 mix of ADTL is going to be released as a bonus track on some editions and as a digital DL... is this true, do we know what versions... this is my Exile dream song to be released if it is true... anyone know? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:54pm Japanese Super Deluxe has a bonus track - 'All Down The Line' (Alternate Take) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by open-g on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:59pm
Check this version of ADTL - it's freakin' cool :areyoufuckingserious
http://www.amazon.co.uk/All-Down-The-Line/dp/B003HOIRDS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1271777305&sr=8-2 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:03pm Thanks open-g! So that's the Japanese bonus track, and it'll be available in the UK on 5/3. Stateside release will surely happen, too... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:06pm
Strange, it sounds like a SG outtake ! Don't think it had leaked before ?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:10pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:03pm:
I doubt i can afford the jap super dlx. i don't even want the us super dlx... i might have to get this offf demonoid or something... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:25pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:59pm:
THAT is a never-before-circulated version for sure. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:28pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:59pm:
Cool it is, thanks for finding. It sounds like the acoustic version on speed! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:04pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
and not what i was expecting... god damn... i'm actaully in shock and in awe, of what is happening... all these years of wishing and wanting.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:22pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:59pm:
Yeah it IS different and cool! It's too bad they didnt use THIS version on the B side of PLUNDERED! Instead they used the old version, I think it's rematered but it sounds almost the same as the original version. I guess they will release this ADDL on a different format so we have to buy one more thing! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by open-g on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:29pm
....and now.....................drum roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Exile preview on Amazon!!!! :willya :booze http://www.amazon.co.uk/Exile-On-Main-Street/dp/B003IAR9D0/ref=dm_ap_alb1?ie=UTF8&qid=1271777305&sr=8-2 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:42pm
Nice
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:45pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
YES its getting close :retarded :retarded |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:51pm This is ALL beginning to feel like a dream. One long beautiful dream. LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:52pm
is that Keef on Soul Survivor Alternate Take ?
:whydontcha |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:56pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
joey just shit my pants! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:00pm
ADTL and Happy sound freaking awesome
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:00pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
DAMN!!!! :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:04pm
joey is typing with our nipples.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:06pm
Cool...
Sounds Japanese for sure. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by open-g on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:06pm
Wow! Whats happening? :forfucksake all of a sudden I can see with my ears! :o 8-) :areyoufuckingserious
the well known 18 tracks shine like the sun with the remaster treatment - even in the crummy preview. >>is that Keef on Soul Survivor Alternate Take ? << yep, thats Keef. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:09pm Pdog wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:04pm:
Mine just got up and started dancing. HAPPY 420 EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:12pm
The release date of these clips is terribly suspicious!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:39pm
CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : :blankfriggingstare1
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:18pm
Keith's vocal on Soul Survivor sounds newer than 1971 to me.
Not so much his voice, but the singing style definitely does. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Riffhard on Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:21pm
Damn right!!! Man does that get the appetite whetted or what?! I'm really loving the bit from Dancing In The Night. Keith's take on Soul Survivor takes you right down into the dank basment at Nellcotte, no? It all sounds good to me, including the cleaned up take of Good Time Women. May 18th can't get here fast enough!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by exile on Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:35pm
"Pass The Wine" and "I'm Not Signifying" sound fucking awesome
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:54pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:59pm:
Well only got to hear a wee bit of it...and yes different it is. Better...Not so much. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:58pm nankerphelge wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 8:12pm:
How so? I'm just wondering. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Riffhard on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:07pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 9:58pm:
Today's date is 4/20 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Statue of Louis Pasteur, at San Rafael High School.420, 4:20 or 4/20 (pronounced four-twenty) refers to consumption of cannabis and, by extension, a way to identify oneself with cannabis subculture. 4/20 is sometimes referred to as "Weed Day" or "Pot Day". '[1] Riffy |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:32pm
Right on!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:59pm open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
Excuse me if I'm not quite as excited as everybody else. But it takes a bit more than 30 second snippits to make me turgid. :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Apr 20th, 2010 at 11:33pm
May 18th can't get here fast enough.
Dancing in the Light, Pass the Wine, Keith's take on Soul Survivor...wow! And that groove on Title 5! I'm ready. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by jeff on Apr 21st, 2010 at 1:17am
love the youtube PMS mix where you can actually hear MT's parts, can't barely hear them on the amazon preview
or on the us itunes version either hope this isn't one more time where money trumps art , jesus just pay the guy! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by jeff on Apr 21st, 2010 at 1:24am
sorry, meant to say pay the guy and then very nicely ask him to rejoin the band
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on Apr 21st, 2010 at 1:29am
This is all too cool!!!!!! The PMS single, the remastered Exile plus the book and DVD, and then in October the Ladies & Gentleman DVD. And if they tour next year in any fashion. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 21st, 2010 at 6:20am Riffhard wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:07pm:
Thank fuck for that explanation. I thought Nanky was pointing out the irony of a series of clips recorded in what was previously a Gestapo HQ being released on Hitler's birthday... :pullanolte |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:09am open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 5:59pm:
oh yeah I need that one right there. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:10am open-g wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
Sweet!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:36am
……DAY 5…….
By 10 am Tuesday, my head had stopped hurting from the fall. I got up, made a pot of coffee, and played back some of the material I had recorded on Sunday. I still had not recreated that 1972 feel I was looking for. Sure the basement was looking pretty Nellcoteish, and I had a good start on the jumpsuit, but the essence still wasn’t there. So I ran down to one of those new age stores and picked up some India Temple incense (cones, not sticks) and lit a few in the basement. The exotic scents worked nicely giving the air a rich herbal flavor and a fiendish backlit smoky look. I had a few beers while I made some large cardboard cutouts and put some ’72 era pictures of the Stones on their faces so it felt like everyone was there with me. I put a Charlie cut out in the corner, Keith and Ronnie cutouts by the guitars, and a Mick cutout in the middle of the room. By about noon, the place was starting to have the right vibe. I downed a couple more beers, tuned up the Tele, and dug out a shiny new TDK 90 minute cassette for the nanky mobile sound studio. I had a very good feeling about things. Then the doorbell rang. It was TomL. We had a smoke and talked about things. He had read my posts here and was a little worried about me… said I sounded a bit too deep into this Stones stuff and that I shouldn’t be taking time off of work because of it. I assured him that I was fine, just a little caught up in the moment what with all the new stuff, and that I wasn’t spiraling out of control or anything like that. I took him down to the basement and I showed him around the various rooms I had set up. He looked on skeptically as I explained how the downstairs bedroom is windowless and musty – not really suitable for hanging in, so I had set up a microphone in there to capture the sound of the guitars I was playing in the main part of the basement, which is partially lit from a small window on the far side. As I played a few riffs I had been working on, Tom excused himself to take a piss in the downstairs bathroom. Later in the afternoon, when we played back the tape, we could hear a faint echo of him singing some lyrics in the bathroom while peeing. Something about Paris Hilton and barking like a dog… Anyway, it sounded great against the guitars. We finished off the beer, ate some cold day-old pizza, and discussed percussion – Tom thought we should add maracas to some tracks. I had a maraca that I bought in Jamaica a few years ago, so we grabbed it, a jug bottle of Sebastiani red wine and we headed to the basement about 4:20 or so. I don’t remember much after that. Woke up briefly around midnite, laying by the drums, the faint smell of incense still in the air. Confusion quickly set in as I realized I didn’t have drums when we passed out. I fumbled through my pockets and found a receipt from Guitar Center in Fairfax – roughly 45 minutes from my house- indicating that I bought the drums around 8 pm. Tom was nowhere to be found and the jumpsuit was gone! I decided to mix an alternate acoustic version of the Paris Hilton song….. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:43am
Pass The Kids (Angelina Jolie)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by open-g on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:46am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:59pm:
:forfucksake The clarity and dynamic range of the remastered 18 songs alone, get me excited. I compared the crummy previews against my Sony/CBS disk - it's an amazing upgrade. Not to mention 10 more or less new tracks on CD 2.....can't wait to have this in my hands. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Apr 21st, 2010 at 10:29am Bitch wrote on Apr 17th, 2010 at 6:57pm:
I have No. 398... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:09pm New Rolling Stones song cracks the top ten April 21, 2010 'Plundered My Soul', the long-buried Rolling Stones song left over from the band’s 'Exile On Main Street' sessions, has been released the “lead single” from the forthcoming 'Exile' re-release, which will include several additional unreleased tracks from the 'Exile' era. The song, which has been available for $1.29 in iTunes since yesterday, is currently in the number seven spot on the iTunes rock singles chart, behind song from artists like The Script, OneRepublic, and Daughtry. Our critical assessment of the song is that it’s the best “new” material the Stones have released in more than a decade – and the impressive early charting of the single suggests that the 'Exile' re-release (coming May 18th) may also fare better in terms of sales than some of the band’s recent album releases, which haven’t sold in huge quantities despite continued massive worldwide demand for the Stones as a live touring act. Beatweek |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:14pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:09pm:
I know iTunes accounts for alot of sales.... any idea what numbers it takes to get to #7? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:25pm Dunno. It's currently #1 in Greece, The Netherlands, Spain and Sweden. People are buying it... www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/top10rocksongs.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:37pm
Fucking cool!
I wandered what kind of play it would get in this era of hip hop and dance-based music...... That is awesome.....just awesome! I don't know what's cooler, the Stones being on the charts or MT being on the radio today!.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:37pm
"Our critical assessment of the song is that it’s the best “new” material the Stones have released in more than a decade"
Fuck you and you and you and you and you. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:39pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:25pm:
1969 was a bit re-birth for them post Brian... def. 1972 was... as far as post Brian and being dead broke and everything hanging on an album and a tour. then again in 1978... iwth punk and rock music changing... 1989 was a huge kinda comeback... after WWIII... now in 2010... have they tapped into another life for the band? Finally being able to actually sell music and not just tour and merch sales... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by TomL on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:42pm
That night was a blur as some brain cells are lost forever from EVL. But being worried about my friend I had to make the call. Another 3 months and I think Nanky will have all the music down on the Nanky Mobil Unit. Then it's time for the lics. The basement was like bingo at the fire hall you could cut the smoke with a knife, perfect setting. One track has been named, Cobweb Blues. The cut outs made the band come alive. Although all Wymann wanted to do is fuck all night, he was so wasted he did not even realize there were no under age girls there. He made due with Micks mouth. Anyway back to the music. Nanky was on fire and all I could offer was back up and support with lics. We were suck at one point and finally the lycrics came through on one track, Who brings ya scrammbled eggs when ya ain"t got none................
The Paris Hilton bathroom dub may work, but we need more beer to work that out. I finally figured out why I was barking, got my dick stuck in the zipper. But that will be a future cover. You did get the drums but when the beer delievery man came we had no cash so we bartered for beer, like bowling for dollars. I have to take a break this weekend as I am going to see my son at school. I will bring the jump suit back as I thought it would give me an edge with the college girls, wink wink. When I left that morning I was wondering why the lady at Arby's was looking at me funny. I will bring the country sound to the table upon my return as I pulled out Dad's old 8 tracks, Johnny Cash, Charlie pride and Conway Twitty. Cross it with a little Sid Viciuos and we will have a few great tracks. Why did we keep singing I will smear you like a used tampon? I still don't know why I had to play the wash board naked. Was it Cob Web Blues or Millwood Blues? Cob Wood? Web Mill? No more guns when we go to town. Just trouble. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:42pm
Right behind songs by The Script, Mayer...current songs I actually like...
and above Nickeback and shit I hate..... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:44pm
you only get postin like this shit here.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 21st, 2010 at 4:05pm Pdog wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:39pm:
Hope so. Christamighty, Willie Nelson has that shit figgered out... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 21st, 2010 at 4:18pm Pdog wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:39pm:
I might make Jagger realize that trying to sound current is a dead-end... Has been for him since "She's the Boss".....no? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by RS_Chick92 on Apr 21st, 2010 at 6:45pm
OMG!OMG! I'm about to have an athsma attack after hearing those previews!!! I'm giggling like a lunatic right now!! :D:D:D:D
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 21st, 2010 at 8:04pm texile wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 4:18pm:
right on Tex. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 21st, 2010 at 8:09pm
I'm almost sorry for how much bile I spewed on Plundered. It has slithered deep into me, thus re-imagining this wonderful band.
They saved my life once, and today they did it again. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by TomL on Apr 21st, 2010 at 8:23pm
Hey RS chick 72........wanna giggle.................. :smoking :forfucksake :interestingstuffronnie :kissmyass :aimama :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey maybe you should join us for a weeks worth of sessions. Bring underware.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 5:17am texile wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 4:18pm:
You nailed that right on the head. When was the last top 10 single? Did She Was Hot or Mixed Emotions get that far up the ranks? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:05am
...DAY 6…..
Yesterday, Administrative Assistants’ Day (formerly Secretaries’ Day), brought the recording sessions at Nankotte to halt. Not only did I have to take my secretary and a few other assistants to Uncle Morty’s for lunch, but the dampness of the basement left the cardboard cutouts of the Stones kind of soggy and slumped and everyone clearly needed a break from the pressure of recording. Besides, the missing jumpsuit was causing me some anxiety, so I stayed home from work again to look for it. I put on Plundered and checked all around the place but no dice…it had just disappeared along with TomL. The good news was that in looking for the jumpsuit, I stumbled upon a beautiful 2 inch disk of hash that I forgot about. Had a couple of hits of that for breakfast, along with a Jameson’s and watched the Plundered video again in its enhanced form. And I listened to the Amazon clips of the new tunes in their enhanced form. And the All Down the Line alternate. And the cover of the Stones in Exile DVD. Well, the new Stones stuff mixed with the potent hash high, and my head swam in circles….pretty circles with lots of bluebirds chirping around me. And daisies. I must have nodded off because the next thing I remember, TomL calls about 10am and tells me what happened. Apparently, we had to barter the jumpsuit with the beer delivery guy. Fortunately, I know the guy – his name is Ferrito but everyone calls him “Frito” – I tracked him down and gave him $50 for the jumpsuit back. He said he never tried it on, but I think he was lying - I could see sadness in his eyes. Lunch - I raced over to Uncle Morty’s to meet everyone at noon. We got to our table, ordered drinks, and made some small talk. My secretary complimented me on my jumpsuit! I have to admit, I was struck with a sudden sense of horror – like when your teacher asks for your homework and you didn’t even know there was any! I was wearing the jumpsuit at Uncle Morty’s! Howe could I have thought this was even remotely acceptable? Had the narcotic of the new Stones material so infected my mind that I was losing my grip on reality? Was I already too far into the Stonesian quicksand? Trying not to look flustered, I explained that Uncle Morty’s actually prefers jumpsuits over other forms of rock icon clothing, finished my lunch, thanked everyone for their dedication and efforts, and told my secretary that I was not feeling well and would not be going to work. I headed home, all the while looking down at the unfinished jumpsuit in amazement. I got back home, a bit angry with myself for losing such control. Went downstairs, put on Plundered and told the rest of the band that we needed to do better – we needed to have that same energy and emotion as Plundered. The guys knew I was right. We agreed to redouble our efforts on Thursday. Meanwhile, I went upstairs had a few Colt 45s and finished the jumpsuit. It wasn’t far off, but it needed a few more rhinestones. When I was done, I put it on and did a little Jagger chicken dance in the sewing room. Perfect fits call for celebrations! Popped a bottle of champagne, had a little more of the hash, and put on some of the ’73 tour Australian shows. Around 6 pm, TomL called again. He told me more about how we had gotten all ripped up Tuesday, did some percussion work, and that I decided we needed a drum set if this session was to even get off the ground. We apparently grabbed some guns, drove out to Fairfax, hit a few bars along the way, and ended up at Guitar Center. I wanted a Gretsch set with the round badge (which, to those who collect them, is important). The Guitar Center guys laughed and said they did not have one, so we settled for something quick, easy and cheap – fitting for Nankotte. After we hung up, sitting in my kitchen in my jumpsuit, the sound of Plundered playing in the background, I had a sudden moment of clarity. I realized that I had been possessed by something not of this world. A Stonesian world. A Stonesian underworld, that lashed out with Exile-era fangs that sunk deep into my soul, slowly releasing its sweet rock and roll venom. I realized I needed help. Serious help! Help setting up the amps differently…I ran downstairs and woke the cardboard guys up….I had a plan….. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:13am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 4:05pm:
OMG! Oh if that ain't clever!!! :willya :willya And Nanky....... you missed your calling! :paristhong |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:32am
"And Nanky....... :paristhong
you missed your calling!" You got THAT right, Meg. Nankotte???? Brilliant!!!!!!!!!! It's like a Stonesian revival has occurred at RO. I"m loving it. LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:49am AngieBlue wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 5:17am:
In the US? 'Mixed Emotions' got to number 5 in 1989. She Was Hot only got to 44. In the last 20 years, since 'Almost Hear You Sigh' got to no.50, not one Stones single has got any higher, and only 'High Wire' (No 57) and 'Out of Tears' (no.60) has got higher than 91. The Stones havent had a Top 10 single in the UK since Start Me Up, although 6 singles - Undercover, Harlem Shuffle, Love Is Strong, Like A Rolling Stone, Sympathy for the Devil (remix) and Streets of Love have all charted from Nos 11-15 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:03am
Have "the charts" been adjusted in any way to reflect downloading????
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:09am
The single is not even close to the TOP 100 in the U.S, it was #7 on the Itunes Rock Chart but it only reached #99 on the overall Itunes Top 100 and is already down to #119.
I'll be surprised if the single still ranks in the Top 200 by next Sunday, it's already out of the Top 200 in U.K after only a week. Sadly, the days of Hot 100 singles are over for the Stones, only Saint Of Me (#94) and Sympathy For The Devil (2003 remix) (#97) reached the main chart in the last 15 years. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:32am nankerphelge wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:05am:
I just received this very deranged email from TomL, with instructions to please post on RO. I feel like Alice in Nankotte. ______________________________________________ Nanky please keep Nankotte safe this weekend as I will be at Radford trying to get us a fresh supply of soiled panties. Please watch the Jungle Book (cartoon version) I think the sound for the one track is at our finger tips. The part where Balou dances with King Louie. Hobble de gee with a big banana. We gotta get that grass skirt. I have the jump suit, it was the drums that we bartered, it's ok though never can have enough jump suits. I keep having night mares about Betty Boop sitting at the bar. If it is nice this weekend take the cut out Keith out by the pool, it may give you that reggae sound you've been looking for. No climbing trees though. Lock Wyman up for awhile he's a bad boy. No more Jewish pickles for Charlie. Use the trash cans in lue of the drum kit. If you play your cards right and drink enough it will be next Tuesday and you won't even realize it. But it will bring you closer to the making of Exile In Nankotte. I think I got a title for the one track. Cocks off. Mommy do I have to wear that blonde wig again. If you go to the mall this weekend get ruby red lipstick. See you in 4 days In my absence there is a guy I've met a few times in Mexico city you should bring up for the weekend, MF has a shoe phone. _________________________________________________________________ :pullanolte :smoking :interestingstuffronnie :paristhong |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 9:23am LadyJane wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:32am:
:pullanolte :pullanolte :pullanolte :pullanolte :pullanolte |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:58am
:weed :-/ :booze
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 11:05am Some Guy wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:37pm:
It's their best work since Exile |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:01pm nankerphelge wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:05am:
you dudes are a bunch of high flyin birds |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Plundered Soul on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:16pm
Mick Taylor - Salaise - April 10-2010 - before official release of "Plundered My soul"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AY9KC6DP I'd be grateful if somebody could put the link on IORR message board. somebody asked about it, but I am not registered. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 2:45pm Soldatti wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:09am:
It's definately not a chart song..... I would have been surprised if I heard it anywhere on the radio top 40. It's too vintage-sounding....not necessarily old-sounding, just not what you would hear on the radio...and it's not kitschy-retro either. Frankly, its too authentic. But its out there....and we're happy. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by TomL on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 4:42pm
I snuck out of work today only to come home and drink. The thought of being around all those young girls at Radford with moist panties just makes my balls like click clacks. Nanky get the Anitia blow up doll and put it by Keith. Did you ever get in touch with the mixer from Mexico City. We could of had Woodie but that fucking Stewart answered the phone saying he was not intrested. Don't let the cat in Wyman's room he has not been the same since. Buddy Guy called, stock up on collard greens. Don't let Keith drive the boat no more. And what ever you do , if Bowie calls do not answer. I told Gram that there are no sessions this weekend. I will hit the store and get the harps on MondaY. Going down to the cave and work on that one song, think I got a few lics down.
Well I'd love to play parcheesee all night long............... Just gimmie some stink..........from your mellon cup..........just one stink........... You ever heard of crabs? I keep itching on my private area. Gotta go, wife read this shit and she don't understand. I hear the key in the door. See you when I get back, I'll have the panties. if I get into trouble with the panties call Waddy (he calls me Tom fucking L) and please send this............................ http://www.youtube.com/user/offbeatbareass69 http://www.youtube.com/user/offbeatbareass69 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:37pm texile wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 2:45pm:
At least made the Physical Sales Chart: From Billboard's Chart Beat: "After consumers celebrated Record Store Day April 17, 34 titles enter the 50-position Hot Singles Sales chart. Among those debuting are such veteran acts dear to collectors, including the Rolling Stones, Neil Young and the Doors ..." http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat#/column/chartbeat/chart-beat-thursday-b-o-b-bobby-billboard-1004085811.story It's only the 4th Rolling Stones single to get in this chart: 1994 - Love Is Strong (#63) 1994 - Out Of Tears (#47) 2003 - Sympathy For The Devil (#1) 2010 - Plundered My Soul (#2) Billboard Hot Singles Sales Issue Date: 2010-05-01 This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 1 NEW 1 Whataya Want From Me/For Your Entertainment, Adam Lambert 1 2 NEW 1 Plundered My Soul, Rolling Stones 2 3 NEW 1 Wrecking Ball, Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band 3 4 NEW 1 Mind Eraser, No Chaser, Them Crooked Vultures 4 5 NEW 1 Tighten Up, The Black Keys 5 6 NEW 1 Heart Of Gold, Neil Young 6 7 7 2 17 Crush On You, Christelle Starring Dizzy D 2 8 1 1 11 Are You Listening, Kirk Franklin Presents Artists United For Haiti 1 9 44 21 3 Flume, Peter Gabriel 9 10 NEW 1 People Are Strange, The Doors 10 11 NEW 1 Pump It Up, Elvis Costello And The Attractions 11 12 NEW 1 Water Sleepers, Built To Spill 12 13 2 3 8 Ain't Back Yet, Kenny Chesney 2 14 NEW 1 Zebra, Beach House 14 15 NEW 1 Skeletons, Yeah Yeah Yeahs 15 16 NEW 1 Fences, Phoenix 16 17 RE-ENTRY 27 That's All Right, Elvis Presley 1 18 NEW 1 The Book Of Love, Peter Gabriel 18 19 NEW 1 Squirm, Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds 19 20 8 6 11 Valleys Of Neptune, Jimi Hendrix 1 21 6 5 7 Telephone, Lady Gaga Featuring Beyonce 5 22 NEW 1 I Was A Teenage Anarchist, Against Me! 22 23 NEW 1 Little Secrets, Passion Pit 23 24 NEW 1 White Flag, Gorilaz Featuring Bashy, Kano & The National Orchestra For Arabic Music 24 25 4 4 5 Make A Wave, Disney's Friends For Change 1 26 NEW 1 We Comin' Rougher (Iimmigraniada), Gogol Bordello 26 27 NEW 1 Guns Of Summer, Coheed And Cambria 27 28 NEW 1 Rocket Skates, Deftones 28 29 NEW 1 Your Woman Is A Livin' Thing, Drive-By Truckers 29 30 NEW 1 Siberian Breaks, MGMT 30 31 13 11 42 What You Gon Do Wit It, Christelle Starring Dizzy D 4 32 NEW 1 Fresh, Devo 32 33 NEW 1 Sevin Sins, Maria Kanellis 33 34 NEW 1 Heaven Can Wait, Charlotte Gainsbourg 34 35 3 7 4 My People (All Over The World), J Metro 3 36 22 24 86 Metanoia, MGMT 2 37 NEW 1 11th Dimension, Julian Casablancas 37 38 9 13 17 Bad Romance, Lady Gaga 1 39 12 2 Bachata En Fukuoka, Juan Luis Guerra Y 440 12 40 NEW 1 Skinny Little Bitch, Hole 40 41 37 41 10 Bulletproof, La Roux 36 42 16 12 7 All Of Creation, MercyMe 8 43 NEW 1 Inner City Blues, Rodriguez 43 44 NEW 1 Fireflies/Vanilla Twilight, Owl City 44 45 NEW 1 Everybody's Hurting, Jakob Dylan 45 46 NEW 1 Separate, The Thermals 46 47 17 15 103 We Fly, AG 5 48 NEW 1 Si Una Vez/While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Girl In A Coma 48 49 NEW 1 Drive It Like You Stole It, The Glitch Mob 49 50 NEW 1 Pow Pow, LCD Soundsystem 50 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:24pm
That's a good list though Soldatti,
The song ain't going to threaten the latest from Timbaland necessarily, but this list is full of more discerning tastes....except Lambert. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:43pm
Couldn't resist this one.... I already ordered my Japanese super deluxe edition, with 92-page book the bonus track and the Japanese quality
My wife is gonna kill me, the stuff was really expensive and the shipping was big because of the weight but there is only 23 copies available now and it's real; before I ordered there were 24 copies :aimama Well, this is my favourite Stones album, the Stones my favourite band and this place was named by the opening track, so who gives a fuck if my wife kills me! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:46pm
I've been given so much from this record that the Super Deluxe is just an automatic for me.
I would've paid $180, but $120 is ok. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:54pm buddhabone wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:46pm:
Shit I paid 24,143¥ (US$257.09) Express Mail Service was the only option because of the weight and cost :smoking |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 9:09pm LadyJane wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:32am:
LOL as you can see, shoes are a very important stuff here, I use mine as a mike! :aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:39pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:43pm:
This post is prime example of the mission statement of a Rolling Stones fan. This is posting from another universe. This is why we are here. To act on our primal instincts. Women, children, responsibilities, these all pale in comparison. At any time, at all costs, for infinity. We are here dedicated to a higher calling. To the World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band. The Rolling Stones. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:41pm
You rock my friend! We were waiting for your phone call last Friday to shout "Rocks Off rules you bastards"
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:46pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:41pm:
Are you saying no one did this? I am embarrassed & disillusioned. Work took me out on the road. I will stay in touch for your future appearances. We need folks here to pick up the pace on this-STAT! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:50pm Nellcote wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:39pm:
JUst how do you explain to people the thrill and exhilaration of hearing this song.....how do explain that this just brings you to your knees in a way that the people in my own life cannot? I'm dancing on air because my band surprised me once again after I'd given up... It's a beautiful thing. Hearing Jagger sing with such passion, hearing those beautiful MT fills...... It's as real as it ever gets. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 11:13pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:43pm:
Voo,you rock in ways that the rest of us can only hope to understand................Keep on keeping on brotha. :smilestu :willya :booze :keithpunky |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:19am
How are we gonna make to May 18?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:58am
This 'Alternative' version of All Down The Line is giving me the chills: the sample over on Amazon.co.uk makes it sound so, so, good! 3rd May for the download! :willya
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 4:22am Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:43pm:
Yes, life it too short to worry about that kind of stuff! Might go or it too, is that the one you got http://www.amazon.com/Exile-Main-St-Super-Deluxe/dp/B0039ZF89G or is there yet another SD Japan edition ? If yes, where did you get it ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 6:03am
"This post is prime example of the mission statement of a Rolling Stones fan.
This is posting from another universe. This is why we are here. To act on our primal instincts. Women, children, responsibilities, these all pale in comparison. At any time, at all costs, for infinity. We are here dedicated to a higher calling. To the World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band. The Rolling Stones." Nelly, you are now quoted on my Facebook page!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 6:24am
The fact the Stones singles charting badly is because they choose the worst possible 1st single.
One Hit should have been 1st off Dirty Work. It was that high-hair, candy L.A. metal era, and that could have been the Stones reply, instead of a hokey Motown cover. Mixed Emotions was ok, but i think Rock and a hard place as 1st single made more sense. I like ME, but RAAHP had a bit of urgency - though, yeah, a terrible 80's mix. Love is strong was good though. Great choice. ASMB from B2B was a joke. To this day, i reckon "Might as well get juiced" should have been the lead single. It was drum & bass meets Little Red Rooster & was a pretty cool sound. I liked alot of songs from that era that were similar. Might have tanked in U.S., but U.K. & here in Oz, people were hopping and a bopping in all the trendy nite spots to songs almost exactly similar. Maybe the Stones could have cracked into "Britpop"????? hhahaha By the time ABB came out, it didnt matter. No one gave a shit. Exile rules, ya bastards! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 7:19am Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:43pm:
If she does, Voo, I can take really good care of it for you... :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:17am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 11:42am
That looks incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:04pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:54pm:
$120 is for the NON JAPAN Super Deluxe on Amazon, right ? Where did you order the JAPAN Super Deluxe ? Looks like it was on a Japanese site ;-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:25pm
Strange how I never heard a few these reissue songs before.
And I thought I had them all! Actually it's good, since, the more the better. They are sitting on a gold mine of unreleased songs. Fuck. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:33pm
Some of these songs should be illegal they're so good.
Talk about FEELING................................................................. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:52pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:17am:
My gonads have just combusted. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:54pm steel driving hammer wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:25pm:
No one has, apart from a couple of them which have leaked out (pre-overdubs and edits) Next to nothing that was recorded at Nellcote has ever circulated. Almost all the 'Exile' outtakes that have been bootlegged come from 1969-70. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:59pm
They still have so much stuff in the vaults...like the pretty "English Rose" that only ever appeared as a crappy shortened version recorded from a window during the Rotterdam sessions !
Been looking into the Super Deluxe versions...are we sure the Japanese version has a book with 28 extra pages compared to the other SD versions, seems odd. Hopefully it's not written in Japanese too ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 1:08pm Gazza wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:54pm:
Thanks G, wondered what year their from, first I thought Plundered was from France 77. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 1:33pm
Taylor deserves to get paid some for these...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 1:57pm steel driving hammer wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 1:08pm:
More likely to be France 09, or somewhere else! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 1:58pm steel driving hammer wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 1:33pm:
I'm sure he will. I also cant imagine he would have agreed to add his overdubs for a pittance. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:17pm gotdablouse wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 12:59pm:
I hope not, Gazza even suggested that before when I asked about the page-difference between the versions but I took the risk, will tell you if the difference is because it's a Japanese translation, that won't te as bad as if the whole thing is in Japanese I'm sure the lyrics will be included and probably that's one of the reasons for the additional pages, all Japanese albums has the lyrics in both, English and Japanese |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:18pm
Lefty you rock! great find and of course the new header... desde que lo vi se me cayó la ñonga y los webos a pedazos k
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Riffhard on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:18pm
I was just interviewed by The Star-Ledger newspaper about the Exile reissue! I gave them many quotable quotes, and I will cut and paste the article when it is in print. I think that that will be on the day of the release. So we're looking at May 18th. The guy that did the interview is a huge Stones fan himself and he was itching with excitement over the release. It's pretty well known that I am one of the biggest Stones' fan on the Jersey Shore as I have been on the air here for the better part of 14 years now, and have been screaming about the greatness of Exile since day one. I told him that Exile was a desert island record for me, and that if I could only pick 10 albums to take with me that I would make the first three choices all Exile in case the sand or the salt air ruined my first copy. LOL!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:26pm
Great news Riffy! We'll be waiting for interview...
As your kids once told you: You're famous :pullanolte |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:33pm
Thanks Lefty! The show keeps getting bettah!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 3:03pm
Summer of Stones bitches
:weed :-/ :weed |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 3:04pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 2:17pm:
Lyrics would be great, maybe even for CD2 ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 3:39pm
Just watched the trailer...........................................
TINGLE!!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by crlong on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 5:19pm
Hey!
Can anyone here point me to the best Japanese site to order that Super Duper Extra Deluxe Limited Japanese version of Exile? (or whatever they're calling it) The one with the alternate all down the line on it... I really appreciate the help- thanks! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 5:54pm crlong wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 5:19pm:
I've orderd from here. http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 8:12pm
The movie looks COOL!!!!!! I wish them well at the Cannes Film Festival.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 8:28pm Pdog wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 5:54pm:
Directly here http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-91557 I just checked and now there are only 21 copies available |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 9:06pm
Is that ANITA speaking at the end of the trailer???
Now THIS is haunting........SHE SPEAKS. Wow..The Summer of Exile it is!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 9:26pm LadyJane wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 9:06pm:
I know she was interviewed, and it sounds like her. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 9:35pm
Just watched the trailer for the first time. Good stuff. Mty overall opinion is that it seems like the stuff recorded in Keith's basement at Nellcote is more myth than legend. Althgough it is nice to see the Stones pay heed to an album that may not be their most commercially succesful. But has legendary status among the fans.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:00pm LadyJane wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 9:06pm:
Yep, that's her. She's listed in the film credits. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:32pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:00pm:
Yep. I knew it. This whole thing is so damned sublime. Fuck LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by smokeydusky on Apr 24th, 2010 at 1:46am Plundered Soul wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:16pm:
Thanks! Any chance you could post the rest of the show on the Rocks Off Bit Torrent tracker? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 24th, 2010 at 8:01pm The Stones and the true story of Exile On Main St It's nearly 40 years since the Rolling Stones fled to the French Riviera and recorded their masterpiece, Exile on Main St. On the eve of its relaunch, Sean O'Hagan marvels that the album was made at all… Sean O'Hagan The Observer, Sunday 25 April 2010 The Rolling Stones, Gram Parsons and Anita Pallenberg at Villa Nellcote, France, 1971. One of a series of evocative shots taken by photographer Dominique Tarle. Photograph: Dominique Tarle There is a great moment in Stones In Exile, a new documentary about the making of Exile On Main St in 1971, when Keith Richards defines the essential difference in temperament between Mick Jagger and himself. "Mick needs to know what he's going to do tomorrow," says Richards, his voice slurring into a laugh. "Me, I'm just happy to wake up and see who's hanging around. Mick's rock, I'm roll." On Exile On Main St, though, Jagger, for once, rolled with Richards. So, too, did everyone else involved, from Jimmy Miller, the producer, to Marshall Chess, the young Atlantic Records executive, to the rest of the group and their extended retinue of session players, studio technicians and hangers-on. Once the decision had been made to record the album in the basement of Villa Nellcôte, Richards's rented house in the south of France, the working schedule was dictated by the irregular hours kept by the group's wayward guitarist, who also had a singularly dogged approach to composing songs. "A lot of Exile was done how Keith works," confirms Charlie Watts in the documentary, "which is, play it 20 times, marinade, play it another 20 times. He knows what he likes, but he's very loose." Without a trace of irony, Watts adds, "Keith's a very bohemian and eccentric person, he really is." Exile On Main St is so emphatically stamped with Keith Richards's rock'n'roll signature that it could just as easily have been called "Torn and Frayed" after one of the two gloriously ragged songs that he wrote the lyrics for. The title alone sums up his gypsy demeanour, his elegantly wasted look. Or they could simply have called it "Happy", after another track that was actually recorded in a single take when Richards woke up one morning – or evening – and gathered up the only other people who were awake, saxophonist Bobby Keys and producer Jimmy Miller, who was drafted in to play drums in place of the absent Watts. The whole record was, says Keys, a good ol' boy from Texas, "about as unrehearsed as a hiccup". Perhaps because he was not the controlling presence on Exile On Main St, which has often been voted the greatest rock'n'roll record ever by music critics, it is not necessarily one of Mick Jagger's favourite Rolling Stones albums. He once described it as sounding "lousy" with "no concerted effort of intention", adding "at the time, Jimmy Miller was not functioning properly. I had to finish the whole record myself, because otherwise there were just these drunks and junkies." Jagger may have been miffed that his vocals are sometimes swallowed up in the soupy mix but he sings with real passion throughout and seems galvanised by the raw rock'n'roll the group are making. If anyone should need a reminder that no one before or since has sounded as louche and limber, so raggedly majestic, they should watch the Stones playing "Loving Cup" live on their subsequent American tour. Footage of that performance is a highlight of the documentary, produced by the Oscar -winning film-maker John Battsek, which will be premiered at the Cannes film festival before screening on the BBC later in May. Despite his former reservations, Jagger has gotten behind the planned reissue of the album, too, which comes in a deluxe package containing 10 previously unheard bonus tracks, some of which are alternative takes of familiar songs while others sound suspiciously like they have only recently had new vocals added. No one in the Stones' camp is coming clean as to whether this is the case or not. For the purists among us, though, the original version of Exile On Main St, in all its ragged, full-on, rock'n'roll swagger, is all we need. "This is just a tree of life," said Tom Waits, when he selected it as one of his all-time favourite records a few years back. "This record is a watering hole." On the documentary, Caleb Followill from Kings of Leon is taken aback to discover the album was recorded in France. "I literally thought they were in Memphis, going out every night eating barbecue and partying." Which is exactly what it sounds like. The creation of Exile On Main St, like so many early chapters in the Rolling Stones story, is shrouded in myth and blurred by conflicting anecdotal evidence. The American journalist Robert Greenfield, who was present briefly during the recording, wrote an entire book about — and named after — the album. Its subtitle is "A Season in Hell With the Rolling Stones". The book paints an often lurid portrait of Richards and his then partner, Anita Pallenberg. Greenfield places the couple at the centre of a spiral of sustained hard drug abuse and wilfully amoral behaviour. Among the rumours he airs, but does not confirm or refute, is the one about Pallenberg encouraging an employee's young daughter to inject heroin for the first time. Another has Jagger bedding Pallenberg while Richards has nodded out on heroin, thus reigniting an affair they were rumoured to have had while filming Performance under the direction of Nic Roeg in 1968. Needless to say, the documentary, which has Jagger's controlling presence written all over it, does not dwell on such unsavoury and unsubstantiated matters. The French photographer Dominique Tarle, who chronicled the making of the album in a series of wonderfully evocative shots, and who was Greenfield's entrée into the Stones' milieu, had this to say about the book when I spoke to him in Paris last week: "I read only eight pages and I really felt sick. First of all, how can he not write about the music? And all this stuff about a season in hell with the Rolling Stones? No, no, it was anything but that. We were all young and it was a time of great freedom and energy and creativity. For me, it was a kind of rock'n'roll heaven." Perhaps, though, it was both. Tommy Weber, who is described as "a racing driver, drug runner and adventurer" in the documentary, and as "a fabulous character straight out of F Scott Fitzgerald's Tender is the Night" by Greenfield, was one of Richards's inner circle at Nellcôte. His son, Jake, now a Hollywood actor, was just eight when he witnessed the decadence around the Rolling Stones first-hand. In Stones in Exile, he says, "There was cocaine, a lot of joints. If you're living a decadent life, there is always darkness there. But, at this point, this was the moment of grace. This was before the darkness, the sunrise before the sunset." Bobby Keys, as ever, is more blunt. "Hell, yeah, there was some pot around, there was some whiskey bottles around, there was scantily clad women. Hell, it was rock'n'roll!" Others experienced more mundane but no less pressing problems. Both Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman missed home and some of their own creature comforts. "I hated leaving England," Wyman reminisces. "You had to import Bird's custard, Branston pickle and piccalilli... you had to buy PG Tips and then deal with the French milk." The Rolling Stones pitched up in the south of France in the spring of 1971 as reluctant tax exiles fleeing the Labour government's punitive 93% tax on high earners. The group had just extricated themselves, at some cost, from a misguided management deal with the infamous Allen Klein, who was still claiming he owned their publishing rights. In the public eye, though, the Stones were still the rock group that most defined the outlaw rock'n'roll lifestyle, their bad reputation built on an already colourful past that included high-profile drug busts, the death by drowning of Brian Jones, one of their founding members, the near death by overdose of Marianne Faithfull, Mick Jagger's former girlfriend, and the murder of a fan by Hell's Angels, who had been hired by the group's management to provide security at 1969's ill-fated Altamont festival. Altamont was viewed by many contemporary observers as the symbolic death of the 60s dream of a burgeoning counterculture; by others as an inevitable result of the Stones' hubris and arrogance. Through it all, though, the Stones' music had echoed their turbulent lifestyle and soundtracked the tumultuous times, from the upfront sexual bravado of "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" in 1965, through the apocalyptic swirl of "Gimme Shelter" in 1969, to the swagger of "Brown Sugar" in 1971. Sticky Fingers, the group's ninth album, nestled at the top of the British and US pop charts as the Stones, their families and extended entourage decamped to France to begin their exile. Richards sensed that the reason for their flight from Britain was not just to do with their dire financial predicament. "There was a feeling you were being edged out of your own country by the British government," he remembers. "They couldn't ignore that we were a force to be reckoned with." Having searched the coastline and hills around the town of Villefranche-sur-Mer for a suitable recording space, the Stones then opted to start working in the cavernous, multi-roomed basement of Nellcôte, with their mobile recording studio parked outside in the driveway. The house had once been occupied by the Nazis, and in a recent interview Richards describes working there as "like trying to make a record in the Führerbunker. It was that sort of feeling… very Germanic down there – swastikas on the staircase… Upstairs, it was fantastic. Like Versailles. But down there… it was Dante's Inferno." In the often intense heat of the dank basement, the group struggled to get started. Musicians set up their instruments in adjoining rooms, with Bill Wyman having to play his bass in one space while his amplifiers stood in a hallway. Initially, they were hampered by guitars going out of tune due to the humidity. Basic communication, too, was a problem, with Jimmy Miller continually having to run from the mobile studio to the basement to deliver his instructions. Then, a few weeks in, Mick Jagger announced that he was going to marry Bianca Pérez Morena de Macias, a Nicaraguan-born model, in nearby St Tropez. The international press and a clutch of the world's most famous pop stars jetted in for the very public wedding ceremony. As Jagger and his bride departed on honeymoon, the celebrations continued for a week at Villa Nellcôte. A week after they stopped, Gram Parsons, the country-rock singer who had bonded with Richards in Los Angeles a few years before over their shared love for Merle Haggard and heroin, arrived with his wife, Gretchen. The couple stayed for a month before they were diplomatically asked to leave by a Stones minion. "The atmosphere kept changing but the party kept going," says Tarle, laughing. Interestingly, the Stones In Exile documentary does not even mention Parsons, whose closeness to Richards rattled the possessive Jagger. "Keith and Gram were intimate like brothers," says Tarle, "especially musically. The idea was floating around that Gram would produce a Gram Parsons album for the newly formed Rolling Stones Records. Mick, I think, was a little afraid because that would mean that Gram and Keith might even tour together to promote it. And if there is no room for Mick, there is no room also for the Rolling Stones. So, yes, there was tension. You could feel it and I captured it on Mick's face in some of my pictures." The music the Stones made in Nellcôte reflected those tensions, as well as the sense of exile and uncertainty that hung heavily over the group, and the continuing encroachment of heroin on the lives of Richards and Pallenberg, and on the lives of some of those who entered their orbit. Speaking recently, Richards protested that he was not the only drug user in the group. "At the time, Mick was taking everything. Charlie was hitting the brandy like a motherfucker. The least of our concerns was what we ingested. These sorts of questions [about drugs] are predicated on what came a few years later when… I would play the game. 'Oh, you want that Keith Richards? I'll give you the baddest mother you've ever seen.'" By October, though, heroin use seems to have been a constant in the lives of Richards and Pallenberg. "I walked into the living room one day and this guy had a big bag of smack," Pallenberg remembers, "and everything just disintegrated." Perhaps it was telling that when Richards bought himself a speedboat, he called it Mandrax. Heroin brought with it the usual problems of supply and demand, and the usual retinue of shady characters and criminals, both local and from nearby Marseille. Villa Nellcôte was such an open house that, one day in September, burglars walked out of the front gate with nine of Richards's guitars, Bobby Keys's saxophone and Bill Wyman's bass in broad daylight while the occupants were watching television in the living room. "That's how loose and stupid it was out there," says Wyman. The crime was reputedly carried out by dealers from Marseille who were owed money by Richards. The nocturnal goings-on at Nellcôte were also starting to attract the attention of the local populace and the increasingly suspicious police force. "The music was so loud, really, really loud," Pallenberg remembers. "Sometimes I went to Villefranche during the day and you could hear the music there. And it went on all night." Whatever the truth of the rumour about Pallenberg encouraging the teenage daughter of the resident chef to try heroin, the police eventually raided Nellcôte and, in 1973, both she and Richards were charged with possession of heroin and intent to traffic. The resulting guilty verdict meant that Richards was banned from entering France for two years, and thus the Stones could not play concerts there. As summer turned to autumn, people started drifting away from Nellcôte and, in November 1971, Richards and Pallenberg followed suit. The album was eventually finished in Sunset Sound studios in Los Angeles. In the documentary, Jagger reveals that some of the lyrics were written at the last minute, including the album's first single, "Tumbling Dice", which was composed "after I sat down with the housekeeper and talked about gambling". The words to another gambling song, the frenetic "Casino Boogie", were created by Jagger and Richards in the cut-up mode made famous by William Burroughs, which gives a lie to the notion that the line about "kissing cunt in Cannes" refers to an episode in Jagger's notoriously promiscuous sex life. Jagger also denied recently that "Soul Survivor" was about his relationship with Keith Richards during the making of Exile. On it, he sings the line, "You're gonna be the death of me". In places, Exile On Main St does indeed sound, in the best possible way, like an album made by a bunch of drunks and junkies who were somehow firing on all engines. Jim Price and Bobby Keys's horns are an integral part of the dirty sound, as is Nicky Hopkins's rolling piano. Songs such as the galloping opener, "Rocks Off", surely about the effects of a heroin hit, and "All Down the Line" are messily powerful, with vocals fading in and out of focus and the group kicking up a storm underneath. "Tumbling Dice" features one of the greatest opening gear changes in rock'n'roll and a swagger that carries all before it. In one way, the double album, housed in Robert Frank's contact sheet-style cover, is Keith Richards's swan song of sorts, a final blast of rock'n'roll energy before he descended into a protracted heroin addiction that would often make him seem – and sound – disconnected from the rest of the group during live shows. After Exile, Jagger carried the weight and, despite some great moments on subsequent albums including Goat's Head Soup and Black and Blue, the Stones would never sound so sexy, so raucous and abandoned, so low-down and dirty. Neither, though, would anyone else. By the time punk came and went and indie rock had taken hold, the mix of sexiness and sassiness that the Stones at their best epitomised had disappeared entirely from rock music. So had the kind of survival instinct that the group drew on when the going got tough. "The Stones really felt like exiles," Richards says. "It was us against the world now. So, fuck you! That was the attitude." You can still hear it, loud and clear, on this messy, inchoate, rock'n'roll masterpiece; the Rolling Stones in excelsis. The Observer |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 24th, 2010 at 8:53pm
good to see Sean O'Hagan saying something positive about the Stones for once.
I recall him presenting a 'J'Accuse' special on the band on Channel 4 about 20 years ago which was basically half an hour of the most twisted PC-obsessed, ageist, right-on bile I've ever had to sit through in my life. Just to add - at the end of that newspaper article, it mentioned that "Stones in Exile" will be broadcast by the BBC on 23rd May as part of their "Imagine" series. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 24th, 2010 at 9:32pm
COMING TO A RECORD SHOP NEAR YOU SOON – THE NEWLY AUTHORISED VERSION OF THE ROLLING STONES' BIBLE
You don't remain one of the music industry's most lucrative concerns after nearly 50 years in the business by being wasteful and the Rolling Stones are rarely profligate as far as recorded material is concerned. So while a quick internet search will reveal the usual array of bootleg out-takes and alternative versions, thus far, repeated reissues of the band's back catalogue have rarely offered more than remastering existing material and adding fancy artwork. This is one of the reasons this month's version of 1972's Exile on Main St, released on 17 May, is news and probably why it was held back from last year's unremarkable repackaging of their 70s output. Most of the fresh songs contained among its 10 extra tracks are genuinely unheard, lost-to-the-mists-of-time rarities. There's been some tinkering, though, with Jagger finishing the lyrics and lead vocals to "Following the River", as well as adding the odd vocal flourish to other tunes. "Keith put guitar on one or two," Jagger told Rolling Stone magazine recently, although Richards himself declared: "I really wanted to leave them pretty much as they were. I didn't want to interfere with the Bible." The impressively slouchy blues of "Plundered my Soul" has already been aired, gaining a limited release last weekend in support of international Record Store Day. "Good Time Women" is an excellent early incarnation of "Tumbling Dice" that has been knocking about online for a while, albeit in less polished form. Like much of Exile, it dates from the sessions for 1971's Sticky Fingers, although another new track "I'm Not Signifying" originates from the notoriously drug-addled sessions at Nellcôte in the south of France. There's a further treat included in the £99.99 deluxe box set version, something that adds to the sense that the Exile reissue is a sign that the Stones may be catching up with their peers and beginning to direct their own mythology more firmly, in the manner of, say, Bob Dylan with his recent flurry of official bootlegs and documentaries. Among the commemorative hardback book and postcards is 10 minutes of footage from the infamous @#$%& Blues documentary, shot on the band's particularly debauched 1972 US tour in support of Exile. Inevitably, the edit features Keith hurling a television off a hotel balcony and Mick ordering room service, rather than the infamous sex and drugs scenes that prompted the band to halt the film's full release. (The entire 93-minute version can still only be shown in the presence of the now 85-year-old director Robert Frank.) Frank's film is named after another lost Stones track, their final single for Decca, rejected by the label because of its title. It made one brief appearance on a German compilation and hasn't been heard since. Apart from on the web, of course. Gareth Grundy guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2010 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Sex Driver on Apr 24th, 2010 at 10:50pm
According tp this link http://www.amazon.com/Exile-Main-Street-Rolling-Stones/dp/B0039TD7RC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1272167060&sr=1-1 an "enhanced" version is gonna have 18 additional tracks instead of 10????
1. Loving Cup 2. Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) 3. I'm Not Signifying 4. Dancing In The Light 5. So Divine (Aladdin Story) 6. Soul Survivor 7. Following The River 8. Plundered My Soul 9. Good Time Women 10. Title 5 11. Turd On The Run 12. Ventilator Blues 13. I Just Want To See His Face 14. Let It Loose 15. All Down The Line 16. Stop Breaking Down 17. Shine A Light 18. Soul SurvivorDisc: 2 tracks 11 -18 are on the original version so probably is a fuck up on Amazon part or outtakes? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 25th, 2010 at 5:58pm Interesting read about UMG's marketing plans for the 'Exile' re-issue @ My Life In The Music Business And they've loaded up the RS Store with new 'Exile' merch. S.T.P. Deluxe Road Case, anyone? http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/MusicToday/BGAMRS13?$shadow1$&$300$&bgc=ffffff |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 25th, 2010 at 6:06pm
Yeah,interesting marketing techniques. Here's one they didn't mention. How about doing a fucking tour. :forfucksake
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by exile on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:08pm
This website from here in Australia describes the 30 min DVD from "SUPER DELUXE EDITION as "30-minute film (exclusive to this format) Contains clips from Making of Exile documentary & clip from ‘Ladies & Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones’ film & clip from legendary unreleased ‘Cocksucker Blues’ film"
So apparently it's only a "making of" DVD http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/exile-on-main-street-remastered-super-deluxe-edition/512162 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:20pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 5:58pm:
The asking price for the case is $500. There must be a free pistol whipping to go along with it... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:23pm exile wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:08pm:
That's the Japanese edition, the description is the very same. About the DVD, yes it's only 30 minutes about the "making of"; "Stones in Exile" it's 151 minutes and will be released in June and then "Ladies and Gentlemen will be on cinemas and then will be released as a DVD too One of the coolest things that have happened since the announcement of the Exile release is YOUR RETURN!!! Great to see you back and why not... It's EXILE |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:30pm Ginda wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:20pm:
Yeah, it's pricy, but imo it's also a pretty damn cool collectible, and a considerable cut above some of their odious past offerings. Rolling Stones Pet Gear, f'rinstance... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:49pm
I love this one and it's only $75
http://rollingstones.shop.bravadousa.com/Product.aspx?cp=150_34383&pc=BGAMRS11# http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/MusicToday/BGAMRS11?$shadow1$&$300$&bgc=ffffff This exclusive, high-end 45’s Case Box Set includes: • Reproduction of original “Tumbling Dice/Sweet Black Angel” 45 & “Happy/ All Down the Line” 45; re-masterd and re-produced with original artwork - exclusive to this set • Vintage Tumbling Dice White T-Shirt • 45’s travel box featuring “Exile on Main St” album |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:00pm
$60 for a T-shirt?
What?! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:00pm
Shit, this could be my option, too bad I already ordered another
http://rollingstones.shop.bravadousa.com/Product.aspx?cp=150_34383&pc=BGAMRS12 http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/MusicToday/BGAMRS12?$shadow1$&$300$&bgc=ffffff and it's only $125 USD This high end, exclusive box set includes: • Deluxe edition CD of “Exile on Main St.” with 10 unreleased tracks • The Rolling Stones - 1972 North American Tour Book by Bob Gruen; shot during the last two shows of the tour in New York's Madison Square Garden; Legendary photographer, Bob Gruen captures the band at the peak of the tour with never before seen photos • Recreation of the vintage early-Licks “72 Tour T-Shirt” sold on tour- exclusive to this edition • 24in x 36in (folded) replica poster of original promo Ad from “Exile on Main St.” • 2 replica backstage passes • 8 replica ticket stub set of various concerts on the tour • 3 replicas of Mick, Keith, and Charlie's 1972 STP laminate badges with custom STP lanyard • A replica '72 hotel room keychain from LA's Continental Hyatt House where band stayed Weight: 7 pounds Dimensions: 12.5in W x 9.5in H x 6.5in I already have two CDs of the original Exile, the original LPs in excelent conditions with the cards and the DVD is just "the making of" so this is the one... too late |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by exile on Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:09pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:23pm:
Thanks Voodoo, all this "Exile re-issue" talk brought me out of the woodwork again ;-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:25pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:00pm:
How can that keychain not be for Room 1009? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Apr 26th, 2010 at 2:21am
This is going to be a great year!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 26th, 2010 at 8:38am
There is some cool new Exile stuff for sale on RS.com! I'm getting some of it!!! :D
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 26th, 2010 at 8:48am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:25pm:
..because the people who commissioned it dont know ANYTHING about the Rolling Stones music, I'd wager. Its only 3 rooms up the corridor on the same side. Youd think SOMEONE would have noticed the marketing opportunity. left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
WTF?? I dont know whats worse. The idea that Stones fans buy clothes for dogs, the fact that rs.com actually sell such things or the utterly horrific reality that there are utter fuckwits out there in cloud cuckoo land who will pay $80-90 for this shite! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 26th, 2010 at 9:23am Ginda wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:20pm:
ha! no kidding, and not that anyone is holding a gun to you, but you still might feel like you're being held up at gunpoint. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Apr 26th, 2010 at 9:28am Pdog wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 9:23am:
Gonna go downtown Gonna get my gun Gonna dress real sharp Gonna beat my drum I ain't gonna lie Gonna walk so slow Gonna talk just right And my diamond ring Gonna shine so bright I ain't gonna lie I've got a debt to repay I ain't gonna cry I put a gun in your face You'll pay with your life And I got my ears And I got my eyes And I got my narks And my alibis I won't waste your time You made one false move You made one mistake When the juice is squeezed That's the way it breaks You'll pay for your crime Your tongue lickin' way out of place I'll rip it out I'll stick a gun in your face You'll pay with your life I taught her everything I taught her how to dream I taught her everything I'm gonna teach her how to scream I taught her all she knows I taught her how to lie I taught her everything I'm gonna teach her how to cry And you cause me hurt And you cause me pain And you turned the tap On my burning rage And I can't put it out Gonna leave no sign Gonna leave no trace Gonna leave this town In a state of grace Give me the power I got a debt to repay I ain't gonna lie I put a gun in your face You'll pay for the crime I taught her everything I taught her how to speak I taught her all she knows I taught her how to eat I half invented her And now she acts so chic I taught her everything But now she's obselete I taught her everything How to read and write I taught her all she knows She was a neophyte I taught her everything I loved to watch her grow I taught her everything And now I want to see her go I taught her everything I got a debt to repay I ain't gonna cry I'll put a gun in your face You're playing with your life I taught her everything I taught her how to cheat I taught her all she knows She was so indiscreet I taught her everything I taught her how to lie I taught her everything I'm gonna teach her how to cry |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 26th, 2010 at 11:36am Gazza wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 8:48am:
No kidding. It's all too Charlie Potatoes for me. I deal in small bills these days. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 26th, 2010 at 12:52pm
I am happy
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Jesus Christ on Apr 26th, 2010 at 3:31pm Ginda wrote on Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:20pm:
No...the pistol whipping costs $35. But! WHO is Charlie Potatoes? And which high-end version of Exile will he buy? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 26th, 2010 at 3:50pm Jesus Christ wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 3:31pm:
Nah, doesn't work. You just ain't witty without the political thread. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 26th, 2010 at 4:10pm Jesus Christ wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 3:31pm:
Dear Lord...my age is showing. Remember the movie "The Defiant Ones"? Tony Curtis played an escaped convict (chained to Sidney Poitier) who was always talking about making it big - a real Charlie Potatoes. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on Apr 26th, 2010 at 4:16pm Ginda wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 4:10pm:
Watched some of it on TCM just yesterday. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 26th, 2010 at 4:41pm
I'm the bleeding volcano
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 2:31pm WMMR-FM’s Pierre Robert interviews The Rolling Stones 2010-04-27 Greater Media/93.3 WMMR Philadelphia's Pierre Robert will host a live radio special, with The Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Charlie Watts, to celebrate the re-release of their landmark album, Exile On Main Street. It will air Monday, May 17th, 10pm ET, on WMMR and dozens of stations across the country. It will be streamed simultaneously on wmmr.com. Pierre’s interviews marks the first time since the album's release more than three decades ago that the trio will talk about the creation of one of the most defining albums of The Rolling Stones' catalogue. The re-release includes 10 never-before-heard tracks and hits stores May 18th. Radio Business Report |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 27th, 2010 at 4:04pm
What, they could'nt go on Ronnie's show and let him interview them? :nanker
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Apr 27th, 2010 at 4:18pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 2:31pm:
MMR=Means More Rock Baby!!! better than october 27th, 2006 when he announced an hour before i left my house that Boardwalk Hall was being flippin re-scheduled!!! looking forward to PR's interview and maybe bumping into him at the next philly area Stones show!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 4:29pm Being chosen to host the radio interview is a coup for Pierre. Dude's been on MMR forever. Seen him at many a show... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 5:09pm Green Day has been announced as the 4th 'Exile Week' act on "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon". http://twitter.com/questlove |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by TomL on Apr 27th, 2010 at 5:40pm
and I hid the speed in side my shoes.............................. :forfucksake
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 27th, 2010 at 6:08pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 5:09pm:
dude.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 6:17pm Them guys is huge... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 27th, 2010 at 7:04pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
And they can rock a cover tune... they've done Ramones, Who, Social D just to name a few justice.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 27th, 2010 at 8:06pm Pdog wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 7:04pm:
could be good |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 8:35pm I've got a feeling all 4 of 'em will be good. Friday the 14th is advertised as the premiere of 'Stones In Exile'. Wonder how much of it they'll show, and if that'll be the night that Mick and/or Keith appear... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 27th, 2010 at 8:42pm
Well the Cannes Film Festival is May 12-23 so if The Stones will be in France to promote the Exile film than I guess they cant be in NY on Jimmy Fallon too! Unless its a Skype or pre-recorded broadcast.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 27th, 2010 at 8:48pm Bitch wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 8:42pm:
i think they will hop a flight to go stateside... this is going to be huge. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 9:01pm I'd guess the Cannes premiere of 'Stones In Exile' is after May 14th. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 27th, 2010 at 9:06pm
Green Day...
maybe Rip This Joint for its sheer speed? Anybody know what songs are going to be played? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 27th, 2010 at 9:49pm They haven't announced who'll be playing what. Don't know if they will. Sheryl Crow's covered 'Happy', and Phish has played 'Exile' from start to finish. Their take on 'Loving Cup' is real nice - www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3fdnEiNMBQ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 27th, 2010 at 10:13pm Pdog wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 7:04pm:
But Green Day doesn't rhyme with Keith Richards :-? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 27th, 2010 at 10:14pm
Loving Cup has been a part of Phishes sets for years.
I would place a bet on that. I cannot stand Green Day, but I'll be watching. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:34am
I got goose-bumples
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 28th, 2010 at 7:04am left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 27th, 2010 at 5:09pm:
THIS excites me and WHERE IS SV? PASSED OUT ON THE FLOOR??? LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on Apr 28th, 2010 at 7:45am
Holy shit. Green Day can cover just about anything from Exile.
Definite TIVO alert for me. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:15am
This version of PMS sounds different to me- seems the back up vocals kick in quick and the guitars sound sweet- I like this version!
http://www.youtube.com/v/61j4CZEOnuQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&; |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Jesus Christ on Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:48am Some Guy wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
DRONE! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Jesus Christ on Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:52am Ginda wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 4:10pm:
Oh yeah...I think I saw the remake... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 28th, 2010 at 12:34pm Keith and Charlie are interviewed in the latest issue of Classic Rock: The Sun plucked a few quotes: "People always like to make you all very cut and dried and simple - 'Oh, he's a maniac.' And I can be, when I have the time for it, but I'm also growing up. I pace myself. Even I couldn't be that kind of Keith Richards all the time." "When I'm at home I do as I'm told. 'Yes darling, no darling', like any other guy. But I know there's a streak in me that, given the opportunity, will show you what Keith can do. I've never felt driven to live up to this image they've made of me. That's a mug's game, a sucker shot. But I don't mind using it occasionally." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 28th, 2010 at 1:29pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:15am:
I am so proud of my boys... [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 28th, 2010 at 2:09pm Stones doc in Cannes By Charles Ealy Wednesday, April 28, 2010 A new documentary about the making of the classic Rolling Stones album “Exile On Main Street” will make its premiere in Cannes on May 19 as part of the Directors Fortnight. The documentary is directed by Stephen Kijak, whose previous efforts include “Scott Walker: 30 Century Man.” The new documentary shows Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and other band members as they begin to record the classic 1972 album in the south of France and move on to L.A. for final mixing. It’s based on previously unseen footage, and the Stones asked Kijak to tell the story of the album’s creation. A DVD of the doc will be released in June. And a special re-issue of “Exile On Main Street” will be released May 18 in the States. It will include 10 tracks originally recorded during the “Exile” era but only recently discovered. The new tracks include “Plundered My Soul” and “Pass The Wine.” Jagger will be at the festival for a Q&A with the director. Should be quite the scene. To see a trailer, click here. www.austin360.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Apr 28th, 2010 at 2:46pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 2:09pm:
Jagger in a Q&A ....ha! 'Well, I don't really remember much, it was such a long time ago...' 'Actually, I think Keith wrote most of the lyrics...' |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 28th, 2010 at 3:09pm Jesus Christ wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:52am:
So THAT's where Don Birman ended up. Shows where one Lost Weekend will get you. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Apr 28th, 2010 at 3:11pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 12:34pm:
Great shot of a much younger Keith. I'll be looking for that copy. I'd trust Charlie's recollections more than Keith's. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on Apr 28th, 2010 at 5:44pm
Chuck Leavell posted on FB:
"Chuck playing 2 nights in May on Jimmy Fallon Show! http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com May 11 & 12th, 2010" |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 28th, 2010 at 5:47pm SweetVirginia wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 5:44pm:
i just saw that too... i didn't know you were friends with chuck too... haha. how do you know him? andFB great, we are friends with chuck... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:04pm
I became his friend and joined his fan page so I could post the link to the liver donation FB page...hoping some Stones fan would give us a piece of his or her liver.
It's kinda cute how Chuck posts pics of his grandkids and stuff. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by TomL on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:36pm
Nanky I'm drinking again.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:41pm TomL wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:36pm:
the rumours of you being on the wagon were greatly exjaggerated......... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 28th, 2010 at 7:23pm SweetVirginia wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:04pm:
his wife is cool too... totally down to earth family. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:01pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:15am:
I think that's the third mix I've heard of the song! Bizarre. At least this one still has that critical MT lick ("my indiscretions made a bad impression"). |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:10pm SweetVirginia wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 5:44pm:
Well now, this gets more interesting by the day.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:15pm
Thanks for the heads up on Facebook, today is Chuck's birthday so I just posted him a Happy Birthday wish and I'll be in the audience on May 11th so I am excited about the cool Stones connection! I guess Chuck will play the songs with the most piano....the Exile song with the most piano is Shine A Light! Yep, I'm predicting Chuck will play Shine A Light on Fallon!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:57pm Nellcote wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:10pm:
Somebody has to make up the setlist. :paristhong |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:22pm mojoman wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 6:41pm:
LOL Brilliant and stonesian sense of humour :smilebrian :smilestu ;D |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:53pm Something to be Happy about, iTunes pre-order in the US is live! The iTunes Deluxe Version in U.S. includes an EXCLUSIVE TRACK, "All Down The Line - Alternate Take," and an EXCLUSIVE VIDEO, "Plundered My Soul - Stones In Exile". Order today, watch and listen in your iTunes library first thing May 18th! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 28th, 2010 at 10:17pm
Wow.
This is fucking cool. I cannot wait!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Apr 28th, 2010 at 10:24pm Some Guy wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 1:29pm:
I'll be happy to hear this in something other than MP3. Finally caught all the words too. Yet another love song from Mick to Keith. Still crazy after all these years... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Apr 29th, 2010 at 6:11am Mel Belli wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 8:01pm:
I love those Mick back up vocals coming in fast and staying long. It's almost a little too good. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 29th, 2010 at 5:09pm MICK JAGGER: INTERVIEW When: 7.00pm on Sunday, 16 May 2010 Until: 8.00pm on Sunday, 16 May 2010 Where: on Absolute Radio Info The legendary Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones will be talking to Christian about the re-issued Exile on Main Street. www.absoluteradio.co.uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Olivia62 on Apr 29th, 2010 at 7:49pm
The current itunes page..
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Apr 29th, 2010 at 8:50pm
Gibson.com Plans Exile Week
Bryan Wawzenek 04.29.2010 http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/rolling-stones-0428/ To commemorate the deluxe re-issue of The Rolling Stones’ Exile on Main St. on May 18, Gibson.com will be stocked with Stones stories May 17 to 21. Throughout Exile Week we’ll be taking a look at the making of the 1972 album, sharing some little-known facts about the landmark release, and discussing the best Stones cover songs. And speaking of Stones covers, a few superstars soon will be channeling their inner Mick Jagger on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. Fallon will be hosting Rolling Stones Week from May 10 to 15 – one week before Gibson.com honors the band. Among those letting it loose in late night: Green Day, Keith Urban, Sheryl Crow, and Phish. Friday’s show will feature clips from a new Stones documentary titled Stones in Exile, according to Billboard. No word yet on what Stones songs will be played, although all selections will be from Exile. Will anyone be able to top the Jack White/Jagger duet version of “Loving Cup” from Martin Scorsese’s Shine a Light concert flick? Will somebody try to pull off “Turd on the Run”? Will ?uestlove, from Fallon’s house band, The Roots, do a lackadaisical Charlie Watts impression? Only time will tell. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Apr 29th, 2010 at 8:57pm
You're on the same page as I am, voodoo, I was going post that, but I got the John Lennon story from the same site of Gibson.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on Apr 30th, 2010 at 9:52am
Sunday night @ 10PM on CBS is the episode of "Cold Case" that will feature Rolling Stones music and at the end will have a complete premier of "So Divine"
There's an episode @ 9 that's a repeat. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 30th, 2010 at 11:03am "All Down The Line (Alternate Take)" Recorded as part of the sessions for the Stones' classic Exile On Main St, this exclusive, never-before-heard alternate take of album track "All Down The Line" is available to download for free for one week only (00:00 BST 3rd May to 23:59 BST 9th May). www.amazon.co.uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by dadrob on Apr 30th, 2010 at 12:51pm
edits bits of Rocks off have been played during the NBA playoff telecasts on the ramp outs.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 30th, 2010 at 4:28pm The most debauched album ever made: As a Stones classic is re-released, the truth about wife-swapping, all-out war between Mick and Keith and heroin on tap in an old Nazi HQ By Alison Boshoff 30th April 2010 Anita Pallenberg was often to be found lounging on the terrace in a leopard-print bikini. A volatile woman, described by her friend Marianne Faithfull as 'the dark queen in an evil spell', she was made lazy both by the heat and the heroin. Indeed, there was a curious, tropical, damned atmosphere in Villa Nellcote - the house in the South of France where, in 1971, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts and Mick Taylor recorded the album Exile On Main Street, by night in the basement. Today, this Gothic pile is surrounded by a jungle of palms, with the sea glittering in the distance. But it is a tainted paradise. It is rumoured to have served as HQ during World War II for the Gestapo, who would torture locals in the very basement where the Rolling Stones put their album together. Swastikas were apparently carved into the heat vents on the floor. Just married: Mick and Bianca Jagger leave their wedding in May 1971. The Rolling Stones began recording Exile On Main Street shortly afterwards. The Stones enjoyed telling the Nazi stories, and Keith loved the grandeur of the 16-bedroom house. 'Who decorated this place?' he said when he arrived. 'Marie Antoinette?' Anita and Keith's toddler son, Marlon, was happily oblivious to the decadent atmosphere. For several months that summer, Marlon's playmates were Jake and Charlie - the two children of Tommy Weber, a socialite, racing driver and drug runner. Weber was one of the crowd who gathered for what turns out to be the most dissolute house party ever thrown. Everyone swung by. John Lennon, with Yoko in tow, even came for a quick 45-minute visit over the summer - but exited rapidly after vomiting on the marbled floor. Anita tactfully tried to gloss over Lennon's illness by saying he had just overdone it on the sun and the wine, but in fact he was more likely having a reaction to the methadone he had been prescribed. Drugs of all sorts were everywhere. Indeed, Weber arrived with his children just in time for Mick's wedding to Bianca in St Tropez, which took place just before recording officially began. Weber's children were pageboys at the wedding. When they arrived at the villa, the children were discovered each to have around 1lb of cocaine strapped to their bodies in two moneybelts - a ploy which assured Tommy of a warm welcome from his rock star friends. The story of how the album was made during that blazing summer is one of the most extraordinary in rock history. And the Stones themselves are now revisiting their glory days, with a re-release of Exile On Main Street and a new documentary, produced with the band's blessing, which will tell some of the debauched tale. In the film, Keith Richards tells the cameras with his usual swagger: 'Mick needs to know what he's going to do tomorrow. Me, I'm just happy to wake up and see who's hanging around. Mick's rock, I'm roll.' Charlie Watts adds: 'A lot of Exile was done how Keith works: which is play it 20 times, marinade, play it another 20 times. He knows what he likes, but he's very loose. Keith's a very bohemian and eccentric person, he really is.' But the official documentary will certainly not cover the full story. It glosses over, for instance, the presence of Gram Parsons, the country rock legend, who drove a terrible wedge between Mick and Keith, and the other jealousies between the bandmates which made the process torture for all involved. It also won't tell of the extraordinary tussle Mick and Keith had over Anita, and the mysterious pregnancy which followed. Co-stars: Jagger and Keith Richards' girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg, in the 1970 film Performance. The pair were rumoured to have had an on-set affair And you can bet that the documentary won't tell the story of the drugs and who took them. They were largely supplied by rock 'n' roll's favourite drug dealer, the legendary Spanish Tony, and by another dealer, Jean de Breteuil, who gave Jim Morrison his fatal dose soon after. De Breteuil brought the Stones pure Thai heroin, tinged pink, which was known as cotton candy. Everyone indulged in something - at least, some dope and booze. Even the relatively straitlaced Charlie Watts was working through the tequila. Spanish Tony, whose real name is Tony Sanchez, recalls that Mick asked for three grams of cocaine just to get him through his wedding day, muttering: 'I'm not going to get through this gig without it.' He and Bianca had apparently rowed furiously over the pre-nup he made her sign that day, and he was heard to sigh: 'This whole thing is more hassle than it's ****ing worth.' As always with Mick, everything came down to money. The Stones' sojourn abroad had come courtesy of the taxman. They were fleeing the Labour government's punitive 93 per cent tax on high earners and trying to revive their fortunes. Their manager, Prince Rupert Lowenstein, hired by Mick to straighten them out, advised the Stones to leave the UK. He also set up the various offshore financial arrangements which are still in place today. As Mick said: 'After working for eight years, I discovered at the end that no one had ever paid my taxes, and I owed a fortune. So then you have to leave the country.' Everyone settled in their own villas near to Nellcote, and it was decided that they should make the album onsite, in the basement. If he only had to go downstairs, the reasoning went, then at least Keith would turn up. On the road: The Stones toured extensively following the release of Exile On Main Street in 1972 They put down carpet, but it was so dank and hot that the guitars kept going out of tune halfway through the songs. The quality of the sound was odd, fuddled even. Mick has said he doesn't care for the album, but it is regularly voted among the greatest ever made. The typical 'working day' would start slowly, with a long lunch and lots of chilled white wine and hash. Sometimes Keith would take his speedboat out, or drive to Villefranche. Mick liked to write in the afternoons, but he had to wait for Keith to come up with some melodies for him to create lyrics for. The nights were reserved for music. Bill Wyman recalls that for the first month they worked every night from 8pm to 3am, but not everyone would turn up. 'This was, for me,' he said, 'one of the major frustrations of the period.' As Robert Greenfield reveals in his book Exile On Main Street, Keith would habitually say he had to take Marlon to bed - then he'd go upstairs to take heroin and nod off, sometimes with the needle still in his arm. The rest of the band would be left downstairs, with Mick fuming and furious. Keith had arrived at Nellcote declaring he was 'clean' - meaning he was taking coke and marijuana but not heroin. However, after a go-karting accident and with the recording sessions looming, he started to take heroin again. But the drugs were only part of the problem: the fractious dynamic between Mick and Keith was very much part of the conflict, too. As Anita said in an interview, it was cat and mouse. 'Mick would be in the basement, and Keith would not go down there. Keith always likes to give Mick a hard time.' Mick had problems of his own with Bianca. Now pregnant with Jade, she did not bother to hide her disdain for the rest of the Stones and soon refused to visit Nellcote. Eventually she decamped to Paris, forcing Mick to commute across France for recording sessions. More than once, she threatened to leave him for good. The band called her 'Bianca the W****r' behind her back. Keith, in particular, couldn't stand her airs and graces and had no idea why Mick had decided to marry her. And he had been Mick's best man. Everyone struggled, in one way or other, with the isolation. Bill Wyman missed PG Tips, Birds custard, Branston pickle and piccalilli - all of which he eventually had brought over. He also found it hard to 'deal with' French milk. He and Charlie Watts were both homesick. Mick Taylor, new to the group, was picked on by both Keith and Mick. He was even seen in tears. Keith told him that he was playing too loudly, even though (Eric Clapton notwithstanding) he is recognised as possibly the most gifted guitarist of his generation. All were driven to despair by the extremely slow pace of recording. Taylor's wife Rose said: 'Mick Taylor and Charlie and Bill seemed to be there all the time, and it was just always waiting. For Keith or Mick.' There was also a divide between those who used drugs and those, like Mick Jagger, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts, who largely resisted. When Mick Taylor told Charlie Watts he simply couldn't stand it any more, Charlie deadpanned: 'I have tried to jump in the river, but it's only four inches deep.' Into this mix came Gram Parsons, the country rock genius and junkie who was to die of an overdose two years later. A great friend of Keith's, the two of them would jam for hours in the afternoons on the terrace - something which drove Mick wild with jealous rage. Keith wanted to go on tour with Gram, but this was something Mick would not allow. Mick was also infuriated that Keith could seemingly come up with endless music for Gram, but little for him. Annoyed, Mick made a play for Gram's girlfriend, Gretchen, to put him in his place. As she said later: 'It wasn't about me, that's for sure.' Eventually, Gram and Gretchen were asked to leave. Bill later said: 'It was obvious drugs were at the centre of the problem. Whatever people tell you about the creative relationship of hard drugs and the making of rock 'n' roll records, forget it. Believe you me, they are more of a hindrance than a help.' By the end of the summer, Anita was seriously addicted to heroin, shooting up three times daily. Once, she and Keith nearly died when the bed on which they were passed out caught fire. (They were rescued by security guards.) Again, it won't be in the sanitised documentary, but the story of the Stones' women is perhaps even more fascinating. Anita hated Bianca so much that she even spread the false rumour that Bianca had been born a man. Late that summer, when Anita fell pregnant, she asked Keith's PA for help in arranging an abortion. Keith was delighted that she was pregnant, but Anita was not so sure. She asked several times for flights to be booked so she could have an abortion back home - but never took them. Extraordinarily, Keith apparently believed that the baby Anita was carrying was Mick Jagger's. He thought the baby was conceived when Jagger and Anita rekindled the purely sexual affair they had enjoyed some time before - all while Keith was too fuddled under the influence of heroin to notice. Marshall Chess, an executive with Atlantic Records who was at Nellcote that summer, said: 'It was tossed around whose kid it was, but never discussed in front of me. [Anita] thought it was Jagger's kid. There were major problems between Mick and Keith over it. A cold ****ing wall went up between the two of them over it.' So might the baby have been Mick's? Anita was heard complaining that Keith was not interested in her any more sexually (though it is likely that the heroin made it difficult for him to perform sexually). And, of course, the Stones were famous for trading their women. Anita had been Brian Jones's girlfriend before moving on to Keith; Marianne Faithfull started out as Keith's girlfriend before he suggested she try Mick out. However, in a recent interview, Anita said the baby wasn't Mick's. 'I don't really like Jagger that much,' she said. 'I never felt his charm the way other women did - the way Marianne did. I always thought Keith was more interesting. I would never, ever have jeopardised the relationship with Keith.' In the end, everyone accepted that the child was Keith's. The child, born Dandelion Richards in Switzerland, was brought up by Keith's mother because Anita was too addicted to heroin to care for her. Now, going by the name of Angela, she lives quietly in Kent and runs a stables. Some suggest that Mick and Keith's always fractious and competitive relationship has never quite recovered - even though the matter has not been openly discussed by the two men. Others say that the question of who slept with whom is a complete irrelevance to the Stones. They say the conflict stems from the fact Keith sees Mick as a phoney sell-out, and Mick disapproves of Keith's rock 'n' roll lifestyle. Despite the tensions, relations between the pair certainly aren't that bad. Keith says that they are working together now, and may well release a new Stones album towards the end of this year. Soon after this paternity crisis came another: a drugs bust. Anita and Keith were charged with possession of heroin and intent to traffic. Eventually, probably after several bribes and certainly after much manoeuvring by the Stones' lawyers, they got off all charges. They left Nellcote suddenly in November 1971, leaving behind the dog, the parrot and Marlon's toys. The album was eventually finished in Sunset Sound studios in Los Angeles. In the documentary, Jagger reveals that some of the lyrics were written at the last minute, including the album's first single, Tumbling Dice. He had to issue an ultimatum to have the mixes finished. 'I had to finish the whole record myself, because otherwise there were just these drunks and junkies,' he told an interviewer. But producer Don Was, who went through all the old tapes to put the re-release together, begs to differ. 'Everything in the legend may or may not be true, but when they went downstairs to make a record, they were a great rock 'n' roll band and very professional,' he says. 'The myth says this is a sloppy record - and it's not sloppy at all. It's artistically really solid.' The final word should go to Jake Weber, who, don't forget, was just eight when he spent his summer with the Stones. 'There was cocaine, a lot of joints. If you're living a decadent life, there is always darkness there,' he says. 'But, at this point, this was the moment of grace. This was before the darkness: the sunrise before the sunset.' Daily Mail |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 30th, 2010 at 6:23pm The Rolling Stones: Out Of Exile by Richard Smirke, London | April 30, 2010 5:58 EDT "Exile on Main Street" should have been a disaster. Recorded in 1971 and early 1972 in a variety of locations-most notoriously the sweltering makeshift basement studio in Keith Richards' villa in the south of France-the two-album set coincided with one of the most debauched periods in the Rolling Stones' uniquely hedonistic history. A seemingly never-ending procession of hangers-on, drug dealers, girlfriends and traveling musicians passed through the studio doors, as Richards and his then-girlfriend Anita Pallenberg descended into drug dependency. On top of that, the band had been forced to take up tax-exile status and were beset by litigation with former manager Allen Klein, while Mick Jagger was preoccupied with his then-wife Bianca's pregnancy, forcing the frontman to be frequently absent from the sessions. From such chaos, however, emerged an enduring classic, as the album's heady swamp of classic rock'n'roll, Motown-influenced soul, raw country and ragged R&B somehow formed a beguiling, intoxicating whole. On "Exile," the Stones-Jagger, Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor-created some of their best songs, including "Rocks Off," "Shine a Light" and the evergreen "Tumbling Dice." For once, the music actually matched the myth. Small wonder then that, almost 38 years since its June 1972 release, "Exile" should be the album to launch the Stones' latest series of catalog reissues for its new major-label home, Universal Music Group, even if Richards himself can't quite believe it. "Here I am trying to sell 'Exile on Main Street' again," he says with a chuckle, although Mike Davis, GM/executive VP of UMG's catalog division Universal Music Enterprises, says the album was an obvious place to start the ambitious catalog plans. "Every artist has those few career-defining pieces of art and 'Exile' has always been a Rolling Stones gem," Davis says, adding that the album was "earmarked from day one as the first project to do something super-extraordinary on" once the band had signed the July 2008 deal that shifted its post-1971 catalog from its long-term label partner EMI. "You could feel the band expanding what they do, and maybe that's the charm of this record," Richards says of the album today. "It's very honest; there's no flimflam. It's a bunch of guys saying, 'We're more than just pop stars.' " At the time, the record's ambition prompted mixed reviews-Rolling Stone called it "the Stones at their most dense and impenetrable," although Robert Christgau hailed it as a "fagged-out masterpiece." But "Exile" has been a consistent seller ever since it debuted at No. 1 on both sides of the Atlantic, spawning two U.S. hit singles on the Billboard Hot 100: "Tumbling Dice" (No. 7) and the Richards-sung "Happy" (No. 22). Total U.S. album sales for "Exile" during the Nielsen SoundScan era (1991 to the present) stand at 825,000, making it the band's fourth-best-selling pre-1991 studio set after "Sticky Fingers" (1.26 million), "Some Girls" (1.25 million) and "Let It Bleed" (1.1 million). It has sold 3,000 copies so far this year, making it the group's third-best-selling studio set of 2010 after "Let It Bleed" (6,000) and "Beggars Banquet" (4,000). The Stones' total album sales in the United States since 1991 stand at 25.7 million, according to SoundScan, making the band the No. 36 best-selling albums act of the SoundScan era. The Stones have sold 114,000 albums to date this year, with 400,000 sold in 2009 and 584,000 in 2008 (when the release of the "Shine a Light" soundtrack boosted sales to the tune of 132,000), according to SoundScan. Despite these healthy numbers, Jagger and company could be forgiven for casting an envious eye toward their old rivals the Beatles, whose lavish remastered reissue program last year prompted their album sales to soar from 1.4 million in 2008 to 3.3 million in 2009, according to SoundScan. While Beatles-level sales remain a one-off, the Stones' output is certainly a catalog ripe for reinvigoration, and the "Exile" reissue-which drops internationally May 17 and one day later in the United States on Rolling Stones Records/Universal-comes in a variety of physical and digital editions in a bid to boost sales in this increasingly non-CD-orientated era. There's a standard remastered 18-track CD, a double-vinyl edition and two deluxe issues-a double-CD edition set to retail for around $17-$20 and a super deluxe boxed set containing two CDs, a DVD, two vinyl discs and a book, which will retail for $125-$150. In the United Kingdom, iTunes will release a digital version of the deluxe "Exile" package, featuring exclusive video content. But the big selling point, in contrast to previous reissues of Stones albums, is the deluxe editions' addition of 10 previously unheard tracks, originally recorded during the era and unearthed specially for the rerelease. For Stones fans the new material-most of it has never even surfaced on unofficial bootlegs-is likely to be a strong enticement to revisit the album. "For people who just dig the Stones and aren't fanatics, I hope they like listening to it," longtime Stones producer Don Was says. "And to the hardcore fans, I hope their eyes bug out when they hear these." Was worked alongside the band in trawling its considerable archive for unreleased material and produced the 10 tracks with the Glimmer Twins from the original recordings made by Jimmy Miller. Of the new material, two tunes, "Loving Cup" and "Soul Survivor," are alternate takes of "Exile" originals, while several other songs are brand-new updates of previously unreleased studio recordings. The slow-burning piano-led ballad "Following the River," for example, was an instrumental backing track languishing in the Stones' vault, but now features an entirely new lyric and vocal performance from Jagger. Richards has also added fresh guitar parts to the psychedelia-flavored "So Divine (Aladdin Story)," while several other tracks feature newly recorded inserts and vocal additions from the Stones frontman. Even the band is surprised at some of the unearthed gems. "I hadn't really realized how much was left over until I started going into this project," Richards says. "I automatically assumed that anything good [and unused] that we'd done on 'Exile' would roll over to . . . what was the next one, 'Goat's Head Soup?' " "I knew there was loads of stuff lying around," Jagger says. "But I didn't know what time period it came from. I wanted to be faithful to the time period-I didn't want to take things out of context, so [I've tried] to pick things that were recorded in that time frame. Some of them are of interest and fun, but some of them are really good, so I hope people like them." The "Exile" global campaign kicked off April 16 with the world premiere of "Plundered My Soul" on U.K. AC station BBC Radio 2. Reminiscent of "Exile" original "All Down the Line," the soulful rock track-where Jagger passionately declares, "I thought you wanted my loving, but it's my heart that you stole"-"Plundered" was serviced to all formats, with triple A, modern rock and classic rock outlets quick to adopt the catchy rock track, according to Davis. A 7-inch single of "Plundered" was also one of the most popular sellers on Record Store Day (April 17). There aren't any live plans for the band in 2010. But otherwise Universal is treating the album like a new release rather than a catalog reissue, with what Davis calls a "front-line release strategy that crosses radio, TV, online, mobile, retail and merch." Key to the initiative will be a weeklong Stones celebration on NBC's "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" beginning May 10 that will feature a number of high-profile acts performing songs from "Exile," including Keith Urban (May 11), Sheryl Crow (May 12) and Phish (May 13). The week culminates with NBC's May 14 U.S. premiere of Stephen Kijak's documentary film "Stones in Exile," mixing "Exile"-era footage with current band member interviews. In the United Kingdom, "Stones in Exile" will premiere on BBC 2, although an exact airdate is to be announced. Universal is also ensuring that the new tracks get as wide an audience as possible. "So Divine (Aladdin Story)" will make its global debut as a synch in the May 2 broadcast of CBS' "Cold Case" seventh-season finale, while hot on the heels of "Plundered," "Following the River" will be serviced to U.S. and international radio up to two weeks ahead of the album's bow. Its accompanying video-newly edited from archive footage-will premiere on the band's relaunched website (rollingstones.com) around the same time. Orla Lee, London-based GM of Polydor U.K., says the campaign will feature a "two-tiered approach" aimed at attracting a "young, new audience" outside the existing fan base. This includes an increased online presence, with the Stones' recently launched Facebook page already attracting more than 813,000 fans. Despite the absence of a tour, merchandising constitutes a major part of the "Exile" campaign, with Universal's merch arm Bravado producing more than 100 new product lines to coincide with the album's launch. These range from button badges to a variety of limited-edition boxed sets in addition to the standard deluxe issues. The top-priced set, which contains signed lithographs and exclusive limited-edition clothing, will retail at approximately $2,500. Although the vast majority of merch will be sold direct to consumer via the Stones' website, Bloomingdale's will also host an "Exile" store-within-a-store in several U.S. outlets that will feature 16 lines, including T-shirts, hoodies and leather jackets. "It's not often that merchandise companies really try to tie into [record] rereleases, but very few records have been this big or this meaningful, historically speaking," says Bravado CEO Tom Bennett, who, like others in the Universal camp, calls the "Exile" campaign a "long-term play." Universal is in talks with the band about finalizing the next project, with the label keen on one or two major reissues per year. Universal's deal covers the catalog from "Sticky Fingers" onward, and Andrew Daw, marketing director of the Universal Strategic Marketing division of Universal Music Group International, cites next year's 30th anniversary of "Fingers" as one possible project with strong commercial potential. Meanwhile, this fall will bring the release of a remastered collector's boxed set of all 14 post-1971 studio albums on heavyweight vinyl, although future plans will ultimately be dictated by the success of "Exile." "It's important for us to do really well with this," Daw says. "If this was to flop badly, then the incentive for the band to invest time into doing future ones isn't as attractive." "There's a very strategic, mapped-out five-year plan to highlight all the incredible albums and time periods," Davis says. "Every arm and facet of Universal Music Group is working this project to ensure its success." Additional reporting by Keith Caulfield in Los Angeles and Paul Sexton in London. billboard.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by jostorm on Apr 30th, 2010 at 6:56pm
"When Mick Taylor told Charlie Watts he simply couldn't stand it any more, Charlie deadpanned: 'I have tried to jump in the river, but it's only four inches deep.'
:areyoufuckingserious great article, thanks for posting, leftie! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:08pm
Universal is in talks with the band about finalizing the next project, with the label keen on one or two major reissues per year. Universal's deal covers the catalog from "Sticky Fingers" onward, and Andrew Daw, marketing director of the Universal Strategic Marketing division of Universal Music Group International, cites next year's 30th anniversary of "Fingers" as one possible project with strong commercial potential. Meanwhile, this fall will bring the release of a remastered collector's boxed set of all 14 post-1971 studio albums on heavyweight vinyl, although future plans will ultimately be dictated by the success of "Exile."
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:17pm Good news indeed. Even if they did get the anniversary wrong. But the really big news is that they're relaunching rollingstones.com... ::) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by rogerriffin on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:29pm
Gary, it will be 40th anniversary of Sticky Fingers next year...the company not knows what they sell....
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:36pm Gazza wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Gimme, gimme, gimme.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:37pm
Great article; thanks for posting, Leftie.
And thanks for posting the link that made it possible for me to get THIS today: [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:44pm Schweeet! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Apr 30th, 2010 at 8:31pm rogerriffin wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
I was so aroused I didnt even notice!! :blankfriggingstare1 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on Apr 30th, 2010 at 8:58pm Gazza wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Universal seems to have FINALLY figured out what WE"VE been saying for years. Exciting news!!!! Polish the legacy "boys"; then cap it off with a 50th Anniversary Tour! Come on. Do it!!!!!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Apr 30th, 2010 at 9:11pm 'Exile' fever is spreading... Check out Elvis Costello & The Sugarcanes covering 'Happy' - www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONDTvTxzP4 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by keefchik on May 1st, 2010 at 1:00am
oh yea GO ELVIS... !!!!!!! i always loved this man... even when he was an angry young man...
thanks for posting this! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on May 1st, 2010 at 5:16am
Such wonderful news. I got tingles.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 1st, 2010 at 7:49am Gazza wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 8:31pm:
that's what the wingman is for... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by moy on May 1st, 2010 at 10:23am
Little Steven To Play Previously Unreleased Rolling Stones Track On Underground Garage
04/30/2010 http://www.antimusic.com Little Steven celebrates the forthcoming reissue of The Rolling Stones' 'Exile on Main Street' by playing a previously unreleased track and other cuts from the album on his nationally syndicated radio show Little Steven's Underground Garage airing on May 2. Van Zandt will also interview 1960's girl-group legend Lesley Gore – performer of the pop hit "It's My Party" – in honor of her 64th birthday. The show will feature some of Little Steven's favorite new songs by Peter Wolf, Nick Curran & the Lowlifes, Jesse Malin & the Saint Marks Social, and classic hits by The Ramones, Marvin Gaye, Paul Revere & the Raiders, and more. - Full schedule of local affiliates and times of show: http://www.littlestevensundergroundgarage.com/affiliates.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 1st, 2010 at 11:18am
Do we know all four for Exile week om Fallon?
EC would be a nice addition. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 1st, 2010 at 11:19am Gazza wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Pinch me! I'm dreaming! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by macdaddy on May 1st, 2010 at 9:39pm GotToRollMe wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 7:37pm:
x2 many thanks!!! mine is numbered in the six thousands - how many were pressed? left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 11:03am:
is this available in the us..? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 2nd, 2010 at 12:25am
If you buy the whole thing through i-tunes it is.
$19.99 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 1:51pm
Apologies if this has been noted earlier, but did anyone else catch this quote from Keith in the latest Guitar World about Taylor supposedly playing on the new tracks? "That's a rumor, babe. If he was on there, I would know. We've had no contact with Mick for a long time."
Is it possible that this is the London Astoria gig all over again? Or—equally possible, in my view—is Keith that disconnected from the other Mick? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 2nd, 2010 at 2:04pm Mel Belli wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 1:51pm:
"We've had no contact with Mick for a long time." I saw that too. Taylor added new guitar on PMS in 2010. I am 100% positive. I guess it's possible that Keith hasn't listened to PMS yet . . . |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 2:11pm
What a freaking tool.
Nicely illustrates the state of the Glimmer Twins these days. "No contact," indeed! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 2:23pm
I've gotten to the point where I think 75% of what Keith says is utter bullshit. He's become, like, an aphoristic blowhard.
In this case, though, he seems genuinely out of the loop. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 2nd, 2010 at 2:37pm
This all leads me to believe that new material may not be forthcoming. Voodoo Lounge was only partially successful as a new release in 1994. If one wanted to be really picky, you have to go back to Some Girls for a quality release.
The golden parachutes are ready. Sticky Fingers 40th anniversary, here we come!!! (I don't really mind) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 8:51pm
For what it's worth, oldschool over at IORR posted this:
"I also asked him if he did any studio work on the upcoming Deluxe Exile release and he confirmed he layed down some guitar on one track but I did not get to ask him which one...He also hinted at possible future rereleases as he said he may do more studio work in the future....The man can still play and well worth while to see him if you can........" One track, obviously PMS — consistent with everything our lying ears have told us. Keith is out to lunch, totally checked out. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 2nd, 2010 at 8:57pm Funny thing is I'm not so sure Keith is on 'Plundered My Soul'. BTW, any chance you can post some more of that Guitar World interview? Nothing on their site, and so far the tabs have only picked up on the house husband stuff. Love to hear what he's got to say about the music... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:01pm
I'm drinkin' a V&T and enjoying the Phillies vivisecting the Mets. I'll get to Keith in GW tomorrow!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:07pm Mel Belli wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:01pm:
Triple word score! Yeah, the piñatafication of Santana was fun to watch. Look forward to those aphorisms tomorrow... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:09pm
Are you trying to tell me I'm getting uppity? :)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:12pm Not at all. It's like you're a writer or sumthin'... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:22pm
Would rather get paid to play guitar, but ...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:25pm Pffft. You'd kill on The Pro Scrabble Tour... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:25pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Apr 30th, 2010 at 11:03am:
UK only it seems, can't download it from here :-( |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:31pm
Heatbreaker, Beast Of Burden & Slave so far on Cold Case.....
Awaiting So Divine...... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on May 2nd, 2010 at 10:27pm Nellcote wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:31pm:
I just finished watching the Cold Case, NICe selection of songs! What happened to the So Divine in it's entirety? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 2nd, 2010 at 10:35pm
that sucks
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on May 2nd, 2010 at 10:47pm buddhabone wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 10:35pm:
No, it was really cool, they closed the show with Winter. I just thought I read in one of these things they were playing the entire new single. Unless they played after and the dvr didn"t catch it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 2nd, 2010 at 11:47pm StPeteStone wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 10:27pm:
Yes, a bit of a let down. Having Winter @ the end made up for it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:27am gotdablouse wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 9:25pm:
Here 'tis. 100 downloads or 7 days, whichever comes first: https://www.yousendit.com/download/OHo0TkZwbWdEa1UwTVE9PQ And don't thank ME, thank a certain person with the initials GG... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 3rd, 2010 at 4:00am
Thanks, you rock, downloading !
That version is really something, doesn't sound at all like anything Exile, more like the 77/78/79 outtakes like Claudine. It's funny how we've categorized, at least I have, different eras. I wonder...couldn't this be an ADTL rehearsal for the 1978 tour ? Their archiving seems so totally messed up (Mick had to look up the Buddy Guy recording from 1997 on the internet !) that I wouldn't put it past them. Let me dig out the 1978 Woodstock tapes...hum, this does sound pretty close, very close actually. For those who don't have it : http://dl.free.fr/vWfMzOEHf Opinions ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 3rd, 2010 at 5:37am
Love it! It seems to have an almost country-like vibe to it. I really dig the looseness of this particular take - and the guitars? Wow, they sound fabulous!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on May 3rd, 2010 at 10:59am Nellcote wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 11:47pm:
So, Nelly and I are the only ones who watched? I was looking forward to reading comments this morning. Although I am familar with the show it's not one I've watched in a few years. I thought it was really well done and was very pleased with the song selection. I did think it was kind of weird how all the songs really stood out in the sceens except for the new single which seemed to be more in back of the dialog and action. I would have thought they would have wanted to showcase it more. Undercover was also used. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 3rd, 2010 at 11:14am Mel Belli wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 2:11pm:
You'd think if they were going to lie about Taylor's contribution to this project, they'd at least get their stories to match up and do it properly. Keith says Taylor had nothing to do with it, Jagger and Was are non-committal, and Taylor says he played on one song. Why all the secrecy and denial for fucks sake? Pathetic and embarrassing. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 3rd, 2010 at 11:34am
I'm guessing they still think it's 1972, especially Keith, and that he can trash anyone...bottom line is he must hate to admit that these simple guitar lines on PMS are the best guitar that's been on a Stones record since...Wachtel played on SOM for sure, and before that, dunno. Keith became lazy/sloppy after MT left and Ronnie while pretty competent at first completely lost it after UC. For all the talk of "weaving" it's really been downhill, oh well
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 3rd, 2010 at 11:39am Gazza wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 11:14am:
My money is on the probability that Jagger never told Keith. And Keith hasn't listened to PMS yet. At least not closely. It is completely crazy that Keith wouldn't know by now. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:13pm
I haven't heard PMS for a few days and just played it on youtube, damn it just keeps getting gooder. 2 weeks gonna be a big day tater.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:17pm
Come to think of it, didn't he find out "Tattoo" had become "Tattoo You" after it came out?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:30pm fuman wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 11:39am:
You may be right, despite Keith's account a few months ago of them going through all these tapes together and going "Did we really do THIS?", etc. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:40pm Gazza wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:30pm:
If it does turn out that Keith wasn't informed, will this become the fodder for some Stonesian drama in the media? I have no idea myself, but it seems that whatever the drama coming from the Stones camp is, it seems to turn to gold for them. No such thing as bad publicity for The Rolling Stones? Loving the new ADTL outtake. I was sure I would be dead and buried before official releases of outtakes from their glory years started to happen. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:47pm
Without MT's guitar line, PMS would be another boring song in the vein of "Don't Stop" and it also reminds me a bit of "Brilliant Mistake" which was better but lacked good guitars...where's Mick T. when you need him ;-)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:57pm Gazza wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 12:30pm:
It's Keith fantasy ... When he says he didn't want to tamper too much with the outtakes out of a sense of preserving their "basement quality," what he really means is he barely lifted a finger throughout the project and that Mick(s) did all the work. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 3rd, 2010 at 1:14pm
the All Down the Line UK tune is here for downloading (mods can kill this if it's a problem of course):
http://rs974.rapidshare.com/files/383065293/01_-_All_Down_The_Line__Amazon_MP3_Exclusive_.mp3 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 3rd, 2010 at 1:24pm 'ADTL' can also be heard on YouTube - www.youtube.com/watch?v=3guT6jnb708 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 3rd, 2010 at 1:37pm Mel Belli wrote on May 2nd, 2010 at 1:51pm:
Just playing devil's advocate here. He did say 'we' i.e. the band on an official level. This could simply be Keith stating Ronnie is still in the band in a very left handed way. Saying it without saying it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 3rd, 2010 at 3:00pm
[quote author=left shoe shuffle link=1267023633/1075#1084 date=1272851841]
Funny thing is I'm not so sure Keith is on 'Plundered My Soul'. [quote] I suspected that the first time I heard it. During that era, Keith was too dominant a player not to be heard. PMS sounds like pure Jagger to me. Keith used bluesier chords, whereas, Jagger tended to like those minor 7 chords, the prettier, more soulful chords........ This sounds like a Jagger/Taylor thing to me......and maybe that's why Jagger called on MT to put the finishing touches on it. Perhaps Keith was too busy sitting in coconut trees. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 3rd, 2010 at 3:15pm
:weed :weed :-/ :booze :booze
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 4th, 2010 at 11:15am Rolling Stones high on Main Street May 4, 2010, 12:27 GMT Sir Mick Jagger insists the Rolling Stones were still able to make music despite taking drugs. The frontman admits there was a "party atmosphere" surrounding the recording of the group's iconic 1972 LP 'Exile on Main Street' but claims they had frequent moments of lucidity when they were able to focus on the album. He said: "That was a period of time when everyone took loads of drugs, it was very fashionable, but I mean, we did a lot of hard work as well, so it was a bit of a party atmosphere, loads of visitors, you know, there was a lot of drugs floating around, but not everyone was completely out of it all the time and we did a lot of good tracks, you know." Despite acknowledging the substance abuse within the band - also comprised at the time of Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman, Mick Taylor and Keith Richards - Jagger claims they never discussed their drug use with one another. He added to Absolute Radio DJ Christian O'Connell: "I don't remember how bad it was. Drug taking tends to be kind of semi-secretive for a lot of people, so you don't ever really know, and it's not a sort of breakfast question, 'How much heroin did you take? Oh did you? Oh I only took, you know, five milligrams.' " monstersandcritics.com Here's a bit of the interview. Mick tries to guess the Stones songs. - http://player.absoluteradio.co.uk/core/player/?rolled&service=abr&podcastid=12787 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on May 4th, 2010 at 11:28am
two more weeks!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by smokeydusky on May 4th, 2010 at 12:03pm moy wrote on May 1st, 2010 at 10:23am:
Anyone listen to the show? (Didn't there used to be a Springsteen fan on this site?) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 4th, 2010 at 1:16pm
He played 'Rocks Off', 'Plundered My Soul', 'Tumbling Dice', 'Around & Around' (there was also a feature about the new TAMI Show re-release, with a few songs included by some of the artists on that bill)
There were also a couple of voice overs, including one by Keith. Also played a cover of 'Brown Sugar' by Little Richard. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 4th, 2010 at 1:56pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 4th, 2010 at 2:26pm
Love that shirt! I hope its nice, quality cotton though....
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 4th, 2010 at 2:30pm
I just got my pre-order in to amazon for the super-deluxe.
My local Best Buy had only 1 copy ordered. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 5th, 2010 at 1:40am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 5th, 2010 at 5:29am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 5th, 2010 at 6:23am
yo p, pick up that stones grocery list fridge magnet and tongue magnets- they are in the bins near the front. Target is Stones friendly and we will continue to support.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 5th, 2010 at 6:32am
In addition to Ronnie's regular Friday evening show, Absolute Radio will be broadcasting interviews with Mick and Keith over the next couple of weeks
http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/event/814 Keith Richards will be interviewed (in a pre-recorded phone call from Connecticut) on Ben Jones' Show on Friday 7th May, after 20.00 Mick Jagger will be interviewed on Christian O'Connell's show (1900-2000) on Sunday 16th May |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on May 5th, 2010 at 7:17am
Target Online Exclusive. Only $21.99...and this has ALL THE NEW SONGS, plus a t-shirt (odd that you cant choose a size) and a guitar pick! I'll preorder this today!
http://www.target.com/Lim...ities-Pack/dp/B003H8883I |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 5th, 2010 at 8:28am Pdog wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 5:29am:
Offering the new tunes separately is a good thing, imo. All these different 'Exile' options ensures that there's something for everyone, from the casual to the hardcore... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by smokeydusky on May 5th, 2010 at 9:52am Gazza wrote on May 4th, 2010 at 1:16pm:
Many thanks! left shoe shuffle wrote on May 4th, 2010 at 1:56pm:
Is there a Japanese Target to offer the one with ADTL? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 5th, 2010 at 10:33am
buy every version you see.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by StPeteStone on May 5th, 2010 at 11:53am Some Guy wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 6:23am:
Did not see any magnets, but picked up a cool Rays tee. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 5th, 2010 at 12:43pm Pdog wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 5:29am:
Pre-order, dude! http://www.target.com/Exile-Main-Street-Rarities-Target/dp/B003H85AIO/ref=sc_qi_detaillink (with thanks, again, to Leftie). |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 5th, 2010 at 12:51pm
I will also pick up a pair of work shoes when at Target.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 5th, 2010 at 12:59pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 5th, 2010 at 2:36pm "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" has announced the special guests who'll be sitting in with The Roots during 'Rolling Stones Week': 5/10 - Taj Mahal 5/11 - Mike McCready of Pearl Jam 5/12 - Chuck Leavell 5/13 - Dr. John Chuck's also playing with Keith Urban on 5/11. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 5th, 2010 at 2:37pm
damn, I'm happy!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 5th, 2010 at 3:54pm The impact of John Van Hamersveld’s artwork on The Rolling Stones’ ‘Exile On Main Street’ by Mike Goldstein When the Rolling Stones released “Exile On Main Street” in 1972 — a double album of songs representing the many different genres of music that shaped Stones music at the time — fans and critics found themselves having to spend a lot of time trying to “get it”. It required a number of listens to gain an appreciation of what, on the surface, often seemed to be a collection of studio out-takes and Richards/Taylor/Watts jams than a freshly-recorded musical offering. Many critics of the era failed to appreciate the Stones’ explorations of R&B, Soul, Country and roots Rock that were spread over the four album sides. In fact, the record was comprised of a series of recordings done during the previous four years and, as such, they featured a variety of mixes (some better than others) and showed the band building on top of these influences in their own inimitable style to the point that, now over 35 years later, the package is considered by many to be the band’s most-authentic offering. It is always listed near the top of most of the “Best Of” and “Greatest” lists (#7 on the Rolling Stone Magazine 2003 list of the “500 Greatest Albums of All Time”, #22 on VH-1’s survey, and even impressed the younger generation enough to be ranked #11 on Pitchfork’s 2003 list of Best Albums of the 1970s). In a similar fashion, when the buying public took their first look at the design and imagery of the sprawling record cover, most people admitted that they didn’t “get it”. Having just soaked in Warhol’s ultimately-iconic “cover with a zipper” for “Sticky Fingers,” fans should have been ready for anything, but John Van Hamersveld’s designs seemed to confound them, asking them to digest a rough, anti-establishment, punk-before-there-was-punk collage of images that may have, initially, combined with the unfamiliar musical stylings to impact sales (don’t worry, as the record was supported by the now-famous 1972 American concert tour and songs such as “Happy” and “Tumbling Dice” got some significant radio play, the record went on to top the charts in the U.S. and the U.K.). And so when Van Hamersveld, who’d established his industry cred via his poster and package designs for Hendrix, The Beatles (“Magical Mystery Tour”), Jefferson Airplane (“Crown of Creation”) and others, was approached by the Rolling Stones (who were in a studio in LA putting the finishing touches on this new album) to work on the graphics and packaging for a songbook project the band wanted to release, he joined in on an interesting series of events on the day of their initial meeting had a profound impact on the course of album art history. And so, Ladies and Gentlemen, on center stage, here are the words of the artist, John Van Hamersveld (interviewed in March 2008, with additional text provided* and used with his permission): I had been a multimedia artist and rock promoter during my Pinnacle Rock Concerts in the 60’s and I was returning from the Kings Road Scene in London to LAX in 1971 in an effort to use my music business promotions experience to connect with Hollywood again. One day, from the new Chapman Park Studio Building on 6th Street in Los Angeles, I left to meet with a friend who would introduce me to Norman Seeff, the art director and photographer for United Artists and Blue Note Records. Norman was an art director and photographer of personalities and had worked as the photographer for Bob Dylan’s The Band package with Bob Cato, the famous art director for Columbia Records. I had skills that I had developed in art school and I could apply them to this medium. I could draw, do typography, illustrations and could combine design with photography. I also had printing and publishing experience from my famous rock posters of the 60’s. After the meeting, Norman and I started a creative relationship built around packaging albums. Norman had 65 projects to package over the first year, so he and I created an artistic design process for the packaging of music and band identities. We became a design team that worked hard to lead the industry by creating a professional style that was envied by all the major labels. After each release of record packages to retail, other companies began to follow our UA style. One day Norman and I met the Rolling Stones here in Hollywood. A beautiful girlfriend I had met earlier on “the scene” in London – Chris Odell — was now Mick Jagger’s personal assistant, and so in early 1972, The Rolling Stones approached Norman and I to work on the design of a songbook with photographs for Warner Brothers. At this stage, I don’t know that I will be packaging Exile On Main Street. The Stones are in Los Angeles at Sunset Sound studios, finishing the record. Our first meeting was set to be in Bel Air, where they were staying. As I drive to the meeting, I think about the times I am a captive to Jagger’s enigmatic voice on the car radio, clarifying themes of the day with his lyrics, as if they were an advertising slogan for today’s lifestyle. His words strike like an axe to my forehead. The Bel Air mansion where the Stones are living is a sumptuous Mediterranean-style villa, surrounded by lush foliage, and soon I am standing on a Persian rug, looking into the eyes of Jagger. He extends his pale, soft hand – limp from a life of wealth, decadence, and privilege. The rest are talking at the large dining table. We greet each other and sit down in a seating plan orchestrated by Jagger. I am directed to sit next to Mick, and Marshall Chess (son of Leonard Chess of Chess Records and President of Rolling Stones Records) stands on the left. Norman is taking pictures of the band, and Keith is sitting on the couch across from me. He is looking at me in his mirrored sunglasses while smoking a joint. He looks so healthy, handsome and rested. Then, to my surprise, Robert Frank (the photographer and film-maker well known for his late 1950’s book The Americans, with a foreword by Jack Kerouac) walks into the room with a small Super 8mm Canon camera. Jagger and I smile. “This is a very hip day,” I say to myself. I knew Robert from a meeting in New York in 1968. He takes Jagger to downtown Los Angeles to film him on the seedy parts of Main Street later in the day. Norman and I leave after the shooting to edit his photographs. At the request of Marshall Chess, Norman and I arrive for a second day of meetings. We walk through the living room of the villa down to the far wall into the dining room where Mick and Keith are waiting with Marshall. As Marshall starts the meeting, Norman hands another album cover by another designer to him. The cover is passed to Jagger for approval. He rejects it. Marshall then hands me a Robert Frank front photo collage across to me. The tattoo-parlor-wall cover image is from Robert’s photo documentary “The Americans”. Mick, on my right, looks on for both of us to agree, so I nod. This then becomes the famous photo-composition for the Exile On Main St. album cover. As the meeting progresses, the other pieces of the package are handed to me. During the meeting, Marshall asks me what we will do with Norman’s photos, given that Frank’s are the agreed ones for the cover. Marshall has Norman’s images from the late night photo shoot. They are the sequences where Keith arrives at the very last minute for the shoot. Everyone had been waiting for him to show, and then he arrives with his pants hanging off his butt. With Keith’s arrival, the group is now ready to go on with Norman’s session (“This is a one-time shot!” someone says). Lights, smoke, and confetti is readied, it all begins and a sequence is attempted but then, by accident, Keith began to fall all over the set, creating a disaster. All else fails and our budget has now been used up. Suddenly Keith says from across the edge of the table, “Make some postcards,” showing us with his hands an accordion-folded-style collection of postcards. He then proceeds to almost lose his balance and fall over onto the rug. I say to Mick, “Let’s take that as an idea and do it.” He agrees and Marshall says, “Done”. Marshall and Jagger hand me a stack of photos made by Frank over the weekend. I leave with the visual “ingredients” and arrive back my place at the Chapman Park Studio Building. In my studio, I play the song ‘Sympathy For The Devil’ and I think about how to design, in a “Beat style”, the concept of a “pop art” package. I have to make it so it will work as an image in a competitive market place. I envisage the package as a painter’s fine art print. I had been using various kinds of mediums like brushed inks, crayons, markers, paint and airbrush tools with complicated layered stripping and printing tricks to gain the effects I needed, but in this case I need just the basics – drafting tape and ripped paper. I select the pictures from the ones Frank took. After our meeting, I organize the images as per Jagger’s instructions while Marshall looks on. I am able to step back as an artist and see the opportunity in front of me. Jagger is really a pop artist, too. With all the images in place, I’m satisfied with my work. Upon the label’s approval, Exile will soon hit the streets. The last step of the approval process stopped at Ahmet Ertegun’s office at Atlantic Records. He was the label’s ultimate authority and so when this kind of art and esthetic made it past his eyes, I knew that all would be okay. In the eyes of the many in the industry, they were all shocked by the ugly, rough, tuff, beat look of the package and that it was not funny or real humorous (to anyone but a Johnny Rotten). So, as the result of Jagger and I sitting side by side in 1972 at our meeting, my arrangement of materials that would go beyond Frank’s photo style, creating an identity that would becomes the basis of the PUNK FASHION MOVEMENT. To the spectators, critics, and others in the Establishment, I had made a package that was not glamorous. It was not a friendly image to put on display in the record stores, but it was THAT image that established the anti-establishment look of PUNK. It took years to recover from the cover’s graphic statement, with new generations of punks exploiting the graphic concept to this day – still ripping and tearing and drawing all over things with their own graffiti. The album cover art images from the past, as part of our culture, were styled for fashion and archetype. In 1984, my friend John Lydon said to me “The Stones’ Exile package set the image of punk in 1975 – we used that graphic feel to communicate our message graphically”. In the 70’s, I do feel that 12×12 album covers were an all-inclusive image of cultural style in the visual fashion of the sixties and the seventies. I was, therefore, a well-known designer of cultural images which were created as reflections of that culture. These were then watched closely by other design teams and designers who copied me their pursuit to find new images. Today more than 100,000 artists are using a “Ripping and Tearing” style and graffiti in their work. At least Johnny was nice enough to explain what his intention was then.” Goldmine |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 5th, 2010 at 6:15pm Monday night's "Late Show With Jimmy Fallon" is a Stones twofer. Along with Green Day's performance, Taj Mahal will be covering an 'Exile' song with The Roots... 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 5th, 2010 at 7:21pm Some Guy wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 12:51pm:
wal-mart has these tight ass slips for $10... i'm a total fashion whore of cheap chinesse laborers... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 5th, 2010 at 7:29pm
Excellent.
It would be cool to drive down Sunset and see that amazing billboard. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 6th, 2010 at 6:07am
The Japanese version delayed to May 26
:wtf3 :thatwassmart :pukey :forfucksake :boring :sad We have just received an update from the distributor. The release date of the following item(s) has been changed from 2010/05/19 to 2010/05/26. ============================================= The Rolling Stones / Exile on Main St. CDA 17143yen Released : 2010/05/26 ============================================= Details are available on the following page. http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-91557 The change has been reflected on your order, accordingly. Please view the updated order details in Customer Account. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 6th, 2010 at 9:29am
sorry to hear about that Voodoo
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 6th, 2010 at 11:41am Keith Richards: “Exile’s Making Was Hitleresque” added 06 May 2010 at 10.57 Keith Richards has been speaking exclusively to Xfm about the making of The Stones’ legendary album, ‘Exile On Main Street’. In an interview to be broadcast in full on Saturday night’s Rock Show, Richards told Xfm’s Ian Camfield about the sweaty conditions in Nellcote, a French mansion which he’d hired to record the album. “It was hard work down there”, said the legendary six-stringer. “It was a bit like stoking the boilers. It was the height of the summer in the south of France and it did get pretty sticky down there, it had a dust floor. It was kind of Hitleresque”. Hear the interview in full from 10pm, Saturday (May 8). www.xfm.co.uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on May 7th, 2010 at 10:37am Some Guy wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 12:59pm:
God Damm. Is that going to be on the album the 17th? God the guitars rock deep n' heavy! Thats how Rock n' Roll is supposed to be played - messy but tight. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Joey on May 7th, 2010 at 10:39am
" God the guitars rock deep n' heavy!
Thats how Rock n' Roll is supposed to be played - messy but tight. " Babe ?! !!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on May 7th, 2010 at 10:47am
All the way baby, all the way...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by steel driving hammer on May 7th, 2010 at 11:13am
I hope all these songs will have year/date/location recorded.
Something w/ Micks/time period voice is confusing... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 7th, 2010 at 12:36pm
I wish they would re-up the deal w/ Sirius and bring back the Rolling Stones Channel for the summer (and forever)...
It would be a great way to push the new reissues and the new release of the rarities!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 7th, 2010 at 1:27pm 'Exile' was released on this date in 1972. [smiley=birthdays.gif] Audio samples of the 10 new tracks (and the alternate 'ADTL') have been combined on this clip - www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8qgryKckNE |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 7th, 2010 at 2:13pm
Well I upped with Targeyyyy for the T Shirt and 10 song set..........oh and the pick for my Friday nite air guitar classics.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 7th, 2010 at 2:22pm May 7th, 2010 MAY 10TH~ TAJ MAHAL JOINS LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON FOR ROLLING STONE TRIBUTE! For Immediate Release: Monday May 10th Taj Mahal joins Jimmy Fallon's Late Night studio band The Roots, as special musical guest. Taj will be performing Rolling Stone classic "Shine A Light" as part of Jimmy Fallon's week long tribute to rock-n-roll legends The Rolling Stones. For more information visit: Late Night with Jimmy Fallon http://tajblues.com 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 7th, 2010 at 2:25pm
Green Day to do Rip This Joint!!!
Per Jimmy Fallon on Good Morning Los Angeles. LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 7th, 2010 at 2:48pm
They actually taped it last night because they can't be there Monday.
They offered NY-area fan club members a shot at the 20 pairs of tix they requested from Jimmy so they could watch the taping. (I didn't win) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 7th, 2010 at 4:25pm
Circuit City is selling it at midnight next Monday 17th. I'm camping out.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 7th, 2010 at 5:40pm Jimmy Fallon Talks Rolling Stones Week With See & Be Seen By: Carly Noel, WPXI.com Posted: 3:22 pm EDT May 7, 2010 Updated: 4:30 pm EDT May 7, 2010 PITTSBURGH -- “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” will kick off Rolling Stones week on Monday in celebration of the re-release of the Stones’ classic 1972 album “Exile On Main St.” and the band’s new documentary “Stones In Exile.” On Friday, I chatted with Jimmy about how this came about. “I was at a charity event, and I saw Mick Jagger. I know Mick from and old sketch I did on ‘Saturday Night Live.’ I said, ‘Hi, what are you working on?’ He said he was working on the album ‘Exile On Main St.’ I said, ‘If there’s anything I can do to help, let me know, and I’ll put you on the show,’” said Jimmy. Mick suggested that Jimmy premiere the ‘Stones In Exile’ documentary on his show, so that’s what Jimmy is going to do and more. On Friday, Jimmy will screen the 44-minute documentary in its entirety. Rolling Stones week will also include musical guests Green Day, Sheryl Crow, Keith Urban and Phish. The newly reformed Phish will make its first television appearance since 2004. “People went nuts as soon as we announced Phish. People went crazy. Phish fans are the best fans in the world,” said Jimmy. All of the musical guests will cover songs from “Exile On Main St.” Will any of the Stones’ members appear on the show? The answer is yes. Jimmy told me he was actually with Mick Thursday night. They’re working on some pre-taped sketches. And, Jimmy said Mick will probably be live on the show on Friday. Jimmy is a big Stones fan, so I asked him what he thinks has set the band apart from the rest over the years. “I don’t think they settle. They just don’t do any gig. When they do something, it’s a giant tour. They kind of started the stadium tours. They blow it out. They know how to party,” said Jimmy. www.wpxi.com :retarded Check out the video. Fallon hints at appearances by Keef and Charlie, and says Keith Urban will be doing 'Tumblin' Dice' (with horns) and Phish will be doing 'Loving Cup'... 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 7th, 2010 at 6:18pm Some Guy wrote on May 7th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
Didn't they close all the Circuit City's? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 7th, 2010 at 7:08pm buddhabone wrote on May 7th, 2010 at 6:18pm:
there's a couple open in Atl. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Unholy Trinity on May 7th, 2010 at 7:41pm
Track-by-track review of the whole glorious thing - all 28 songs of it.
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-rolling-stones-exile-on-main-st-reissue-reviewed-track-by-track-249986#content |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 7th, 2010 at 8:40pm
Interesting review.
I have a hard time believing that "Tumbling Dice" has had it's grit removed. I don't think Jagger would ever do that. The reviewer sounds a bit too full of himself, but that's just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 8th, 2010 at 12:49pm KR interview from Tribune de Genève. French translation is a little rough in spots, but you'll definitely get Keef's gist... Keith returns to the Exile Stones |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 8th, 2010 at 6:02pm The Rolling Stones return to Exile In 1971, the Stones decamped to France as tax exiles. The result? One heck of a house party and their greatest LP. Paul Sexton hears the inside story of the reissued Exile on Main St from Mick, Keith and Charlie Torn and frayed: Jagger and Richards at Nellcote villa in the summer of 1971 May 9, 2010 Paul Sexton Most of us, if we were given some random reminder of a personal, far-off temps perdu, would wax nostalgic about the loss of innocence, love, youth or hair. Keith Richards is not most of us. Reflecting on the making of Exile on Main St, the newly reissued album that has come to represent the Rolling Stones at their bacchanalian pinnacle in the early 1970s, the unrepentant buccaneer is telling me how odd it is to be reliving his twenties. “It is a bit weird,” he says. Then he adds, with that familiar, conspiratorial smile: “I feel like taking up the stuff again.” Exile, the rambling, rocking, substance-soaked double album made primarily when the Stones decamped to Nellcôte, Richards’s villa in the south of France, is back. Thus, the record that confirmed them as rock’s first tax exiles is passed down to the latest generation to observe the band’s triumph over the purely shambolic circumstances in which it was created. Now here’s Mick Jagger, in what, for him, is an almost unheard-of retrospective mood. “Everyone’s life was full of hangers-on,” he says, more like a sociological observer of the era than its most famous rock god. “Some of them were great fun, they’re all good for a bit, but when you really come down to it, you don’t want them around, because they just delay everything. “But that was the lifestyle then,” he goes on. “It was just another way of living. There’s a lot of people with a lot more hangers-on now than we ever had. There was lots of drugs and drinking and carrying on. But, you know,” — now with mock indignation — “it’s not a factory. It’s not a mill in the north of England. It’s a rock’n’roll environment.” As it re-emerges, now with an optional second disc of unreleased collectibles and newly reclaimed scraps from the Nellcôte basement, the story of how Exile on Main St was conceived — and how it was almost stillborn, as the French summer of 1971 turned colder and even those hangers-on and drug-dealers moved out — seems more improbable than ever. Tellingly, over my 15 years of countless interview encounters with the Rolling Stones, the re-release affords the first extensive opportunity to talk to them about something they’ve sometimes acknowledged only reluctantly: their own history. Every previous meeting has been about now and next, the latest album, the upcoming tour. That remains admirable, underlining an appetite for discovery that would shame some bands a third of their ages. Not to mention that it trashes the idea that their only motivation has a minimum seven-figure fee next to it. At these latest long-form meetings with Richards, Jagger and Charlie Watts, however, I’m finally feeling a greater willingness to acknowledge their collective achievements and to realise that the past doesn’t have to be an uncool country. Especially in the case of an 18-track album rightly regarded as a luminous coalition of everything the Stones had represented in their first decade of success and much more besides, returning them to their blues roots and adding toothsome slivers of country, R&B and gospel. That spontaneous mixture was at the root of Jagger and Richards’s friendship in the first place. “Mick and I, as much as we loved blues and R&B and black music, we were colour-blind,” Richards says. “We both loved Appalachian music, bluegrass, and we didn’t ever really see that much difference, you just found out this guy was white and this guy was black.” Exile stands as a distillation of all those American influences. “I wouldn’t disagree with that,” Richards says, “although it wasn’t intentional. We always considered ourselves an American band. In fact, we used to be exclusively Chicago. We were very arrogant at the time, making no money, but we were R&B, we were Chicago bluesmen, all of 18 years old and white. That’s the way music speaks to everybody, it can transport you and transform you.” We’re speaking at his hotel of choice in New York, where he wears one of Ronnie Wood’s latest art creations on a long-sleeved T-shirt. Like Jagger, five months his senior, Richards is 66, and perhaps it’s only the wisps of grey poking out from under his hat that make him seem a touch older than when last I saw him. “Talk about déjà vu,” he cackles. “Here I am trying to sell Exile again.” Jagger, holding court at the Dorchester, is as chatty as I’ve known him, chuckling as he tries to remember the minutiae of the album sessions. “I had to go into all these logs,” he says, ever in the unofficial role of the Stones’ player-manager, mindful that the sessions for the album started as early as 1969. “I had to make up my version of when Exile started and when it finished.” Watts, soon to be 69, is waiting politely at my suggested studio location, nursing a cup of coffee, as delightfully downbeat and absent-minded as always. “It’s 40 years, some of the tracks,” he says. “No wonder I can’t remember a lot of it. It’s like, ‘You had red socks on.’ ‘No, I had blue socks on.’” “You ask any of us, we’ll all tell you something different,” Jagger smiles. “Charlie and I had a really good josh around the other day, because we were trying to remember. He says, ‘Oh, that was recorded at Olympic.’ I said, ‘No it wasn’t, it was the south of France.’ ‘No it wasn’t.’” Maurice Chevalier singing “Aah remember eet well” has nothing on this. Each time word arrives that one is about to receive a temporary guest pass into the world of the Rolling Stones, the chief reaction is not nervousness, but renewed anticipation. No group of musicians I’ve met come close to their collective weightiness or individual charisma, even if it’s a given that the meetings will take place separately. Stones time may be something of a parallel universe, but not as journalists tailing, say, Stevie Wonder have reported, where entire weeks of their lives have evaporated just waiting. The band are surprisingly good timekeepers — Jagger sometimes too consciously so, in that an interview can be over the second he says it is. Not this time, though, as we small-talk improbably about recording devices and memory sticks. Richards probably doesn’t know what one of those newfangled things is: “I don’t do mice,” he once told me about computers. His modus operandi, as usual, is to shred the day’s carefully planned itinerary with his sheer, good-natured love of a long natter about music. So we fall easily into talking about those earliest Exile sessions, which began at Jagger’s Stargroves estate, in Berkshire, then moved to Olympic, their southwest London haunt. At the time, the Stones were still in thrall to Decca Records and beginning to doubt that their business manager, Allen Klein, had their best interests at heart. “Klein and his various cohorts claimed they owned a lot of [our] stuff,” Jagger explains. “So we wanted to get out of that contract with him. Also, we didn’t have any money, because Klein had basically taken it all. Or you could say we mismanaged it. So we had to get ourselves into a position that we could keep alive. “It was a difficult period for the band to get different management, get financially on [our] feet, and we had to get out of England, because taxes were very, very high. Even though we were pretty crazy, we had a settled lifestyle, in our own way. We went to Olympic, it was a nice little drive, you knew where you were, we all had houses in Chelsea, it was all nice and cosy. Everyone was settled, lots of friends. To be transported to France, it was a bit of a wrench.” “We [had] stupidly signed with Allen,” Watts recalls. “He waved dollar signs at everyone, particularly at Mick and Keith. He had a tough, American manager way of looking at things, and, in a way, it was not right for us, but it taught you a lot.” Richards is more blunt. “You were very resentful about having to leave your own country, because that’s really what it came to. Yeah, you could have stayed and made tuppence out of every pound. Thanks a lot, pals. “At that time, they wanted us in jail. They couldn’t manage that, so the next best thing was put the economic pressure on. In order to leave, you had to rent out all of your property and promise never to go through your own front door. You’d immediately broken the rules if you’d done that. I always imagined hordes of IRS men in the trees — ‘He’s opening the gate!’ ‘Has he walked inside yet?’ They would go that far. “It was bizarre. I rented my house out and [for] about 14 years I didn’t go back. Talk about an Englishman’s home is his castle, forget that one. It turned into the Sheriff of Nottingham.” So an Englishman’s home became his French castle, with his bandmates along for the ride. “Suddenly,” says Watts, managing to sound as outraged as he would have done four decades ago, “you have to sell the house you live in and leave the country. ‘Bye-bye, Mum, bye-bye, Dad.’ And you think, ‘I’m not doing that.’ It went on another six months, and it was the only thing to do — what do they call it, a break in earnings? It worked out, thank goodness. My family were very happy there, and I was.” When the Stones finished a UK tour in March 1971 with a gig at the Roundhouse, the press reported on it as if the Stones would never be seen in Britain again. “What we will miss particularly, if they do not tour here again,” wrote the Financial Times, “is their showmanship. The Stones are a piece of social history.” They made their break as the tax year ended. “It was like ‘Farewell, Albion,’” Richards says. “‘Okay, where to, Bulgaria?’ ‘France’ll do, it’s just across the Channel.’ And it was just the determination of the boys at the time to say, ‘Hey, whatever it takes, we’ll do it on the lam.’ Hence Exile.” Early searches for recording locations came to nought. The answer, albeit rife with technical challenges, lay close to home: Richards’s newly rented one. Watts, — who would spend his weeks at Nellcôte and weekends at the farm he and his wife had bought six hours away, while Bill Wyman commuted from a mere hour’s distance — remembers that part clearly. “It was very Mediterranean, and very beautiful, on top of this point with its own boat. When Keith rented it, the garden was overgrown, so it was magical. It was fantastically exotic, with palm trees. We had to saw a couple down to get the truck [the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio] in to record. We ran the cables down into various rooms that we tried sound in.” “The basement was the strangest place,” Richards says. “It was large, but it was broken up into cubicles. It kind of looked like Hitler’s bunker. You could hear the drums playing, for instance, but it would take you a while to find Charlie’s cubicle.” “The engineers found it very difficult,” Jagger continues. “Also, Keith was living over the shop all the time, so all his friends were there, and all our friends were there, so it was all a bit of a madhouse. It was a big lifestyle thing going on in the house. When you see all the photos of it, it was full of people. It was fun and crazy. “But it’s a very steady band.You’ve got Mick Taylor on guitar, you’ve got Bill and you’ve got Nicky Hopkins on piano, and you’ve got a horn section [Bobby Keys and Jim Price], who were sort of permanently hanging around, so they were very much an integral part of it.” As the detail of the ramshackle sessions unfolds, the album itself provides the perfect soundtrack, with the hell-for-leather Rocks Off and Rip This Joint, the swagger of Tumbling Dice and Happy (“The jolliest song I ever wrote,” as Richards calls it), bluesy tips of the hat to his heroes Slim Harpo and Robert Johnson, the nouveau-country of Sweet Virginia, strung-out but seductive grooves like I Just Want to See His Face and the gospel power of Shine a Light. Yet listening to Watts describe a typical “schedule” only makes you marvel all the more that anything came of the entire adventure at all. “A day would become a week, or a week would be all in a day. That’s why you had to be there to play. It used to drive Bill mad. “He’d drive down at 10 o’clock in the morning, and nobody, including me, would be up till about three in the afternoon, because we didn’t go to bed until nine that morning, an hour before Bill arrived. So Bill would go home at six, and Keith would be getting up,” he laughs. “That was the kind of timetable. We used to work like that a lot in those days. We don’t now so much.” Richards refutes the idea that he was ever the cause of missed sessions. “I was the first one in the studio and the last one to leave, I was no more notoriously reliable or unreliable than anybody else. I hate to disabuse people, but I was never unreliable about recording or making sessions. I’m always there at showtime, always will be. I had too many songs I wanted to record, dammit. “Nobody gave a damn who was doing what. People were dabbling, everybody was. Mick is not the squeaky-clean little mother you think he is or he likes to portray himself as. The fact is that Mick doesn’t hold stuff as well. Sometimes, I wish I could have a drink or two, or a hit of this or that, and I’d be out of it, but it doesn’t affect me that way. I’ve always looked upon drugs as a bit of a tool, actually, and I’m the laboratory. “Probably the most out-of-it record I can think of was Satanic Majesties, which was already like three or four years in the past. That was the one where nobody was straight. Artistic temperament came into Exile to a certain point, but no more than any other record. The fact is, at that time, Charlie Watts was a hell of a lush, he did a good dent in the cognac industry. “So I don’t think anybody really considered who was taking what to any great degree, as long as you came up with the results. You can take everything you want, as long as something good comes out on tape, it was basically that. It still is.” Many Stones fans cherish the idea of Richards stumbling about his estate with his friend and fellow chemistry student Gram Parsons, like a couple of Romantic poets hitting the laudanum. Ironically, he says it wasn’t until the album was completed that he willingly reintroduced himself to heroin. “I was squeaky-clean when I got to France. It was after it was over that I went back on the stuff again, as a present to myself. But the work was first.” If the modern-day “Keef” image was being nurtured around this time, he regards that largely as a media creation, if one made with a little inside help. “A lot of that is impressions, and they’re outside impressions. Not to say that I didn’t occasionally play up to it. If that’s the kind of Keith Richards you want, you made him, you got him. “But I was a very conservative junkie. I was far more discerning. Some guys that get on the stuff, they’ll take it, sight unseen, and you find out later it’s whacked with strychnine or something. Once you’ve been on the inside of it, it’s not that fascinating. I wouldn’t recommend it. If you want to find out what’s real, there’s other ways to do it. But that was my way.” “Keith’s a bit of a one-off,” Watts says. “He virtually got himself off it, that’s not an easy thing to do. He’s a tough guy in that way. You couldn’t hold him up as an example, because the person who copied that example would die, I should think. “I met most of the drug-dealers around at the time, but only through association. I knew them, but I never bought a thing off them. That’s one of the problems of being like that. It’s never-ending, and you have to do all this buying off dodgy people, or sending people out. It’s a bit like having the off-licence down on the corner.” “Maybe when we were in France, it just went a bit too far,” Jagger reflects. “Keith and I looked at each other and said, ‘I think we’ve done it here, this is it, we’ve had enough.’ Then we went to Los Angeles to do the mixing, and we did a lot of overdubbing, a lot of the things that make the album sound slightly gospelly, like girl background vocals. “I felt a bit out on my own at some points, then it all started to come back together again, and then you’re doing the album cover with Robert Frank, and before you know where you are, we’re rehearsing for the tour.” Whatever the distractions, Watts sees the completed album as a creative zenith. “I think it’s a peak period for our band. We had everything covered. We had a wonderful producer, Jimmy Miller, and you were playing with Nicky Hopkins, who could play blues as well as the prettiest piano. We had Mick Taylor, who for me was the most lyrical player we had, and we had Mick and Keith writing.” “It’s a great piece of period music that’s stood the test of time,” Jagger says, almost reluctantly. Richards is quicker to acknowledge that, nearly 40 years on, Exile on Main St still kicks like a drunken mule. “I was always proud of it. It showed the boys at their best, not just the music, which is obviously very important, but the way the band itself hunkered down and circled the wagons. “All negative thoughts were put aside, not that the Stones have many negative thoughts. If there are, they’re usually all over in a flare-up. ‘I hate you, I’ll never see you again.’ ‘Okay, but tomorrow we’ll be in the studio.’” Ripping the joint The bonus tracks on the rarities disc in the Exile on Main St reissue are a mixture of unreleased outtakes and incomplete tracks to which Mick Jagger has added new vocals and lyrics, with the latter-day Stones producer Don Was. “I automatically assumed,” Keith Richards says, “that anything good would automatically roll over to, what was the next one, Goats Head Soup? I hadn’t realised there were still some interesting tracks left over. I thought we’d drained the barrel, actually.” “I knew there was loads of stuff lying around,” Jagger explains. “I tried to take things that I didn’t think people had bootlegged very much, or perhaps not at all. Some of it’s stuff that’s never been out. There’s a couple that would compete with anything on Exile, I think.” Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren) Mid-tempo and slinky, with sultry horns by Bobby Keys and Jim Price, and funky detail by Jagger on maracas and harmonica. “You think of Mick Jagger as Mick Jagger, the stereotype image that you’re bound to get as you go along,” Richards says. “But his harp playing has always stood out to me. That’s what makes him a musician.” Plundered My Soul Already being played on radio worldwide, another newly completed piece, one of several with new backing vocals by Lisa Fischer and Cindy Mizelle. It features both the original Richards guitar and new lines added by Mick Taylor. I’m Not Signifying Bar-room piano by Nicky Hopkins introduces period Jagger vocals on a rolling blues tune. Following the River Perhaps the strongest of the “new” songs, a break-up ballad freshly vocalised by Mick, with real passion, over an evocative original track by Hopkins. “I’ve always liked it, but I never quite knew what was going to happen to it,” Jagger says. Dancing in the Light Slightly countrified and mid-paced, with percussion by Jagger and the producer Jimmy Miller, and keyboards by the “sixth Stone”, Ian Stewart. So Divine (Aladdin Story) For the first three seconds, you swear it’s Paint It Black, then it develops its own groove and a nice Middle Eastern sax motif by Keys. Loving Cup (alternate take) A sparser version, with Richards much more to the fore on guitar than on the finished Exile take. Soul Survivor (alternate take) An interesting flip side to the version that closes the original album. Keith takes lead vocals instead of Mick and, ultimately, messes with the lyrics in true demo style. Good Time Women The fascinating origin of what became Exile’s big hit single. “Suddenly, I realised it was Tumbling Dice,” Richards says. “Some songs, you have the basics, but it’s not really formed yet. You just wait for that day where suddenly it’s like it’s been there for ever.” Title 5 A fun, fast-paced minute-and-a-half instrumental that throws back to the Stones’ R&B roots, featuring only Keith, Charlie and Bill. They could almost be back at the Crawdaddy Club. Exile on Main St is reissued by Polydor on May 17. Paul Sexton’s documentary Exile of the Stones is on BBC Radio 2 at 10pm on May 19 The Sunday Times |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 8th, 2010 at 6:28pm
sweet review, I'm stoked!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 8th, 2010 at 7:18pm
We need a fucking tour. :willya :keithpunky
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 8th, 2010 at 7:21pm
10 fucking days to go.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 8th, 2010 at 7:49pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 9th, 2010 at 3:41am
thanks lefty!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on May 9th, 2010 at 9:09am
Now THAT's chiba face!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 9th, 2010 at 10:15am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 8th, 2010 at 7:49pm:
Very disappointing news. WHERE THE HELL IS KEITH IN ALL THIS?? I'm feeling future Tour chances are getting slimmer and slimmer and slimmer :'( :'( LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 9th, 2010 at 11:14am
Agreed LJ.
Was Mick already in Europe? The Iceland volcano is disrupting flights again. Maybe Keith couldn't get there from the US if he waited til the last minute to go. Maybe? I hope there's a logical explanation. :-/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 9th, 2010 at 11:28am Mick was at a couple of events in NYC last week. And if Jimmy Fallon is correct, he'll be guesting Friday night for the the 'Stones In Exile' premiere. The Cannes showing of 'Stones In Exile' is scheduled for May 19th. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 9th, 2010 at 11:44am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 9th, 2010 at 11:28am:
Ok, so much for logic. Where are Keith and Charlie? One would think they would be there. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 9th, 2010 at 11:51am AngieBlue wrote on May 9th, 2010 at 11:44am:
let's hope for a surprise... with Keith, i'm sure everyday he wakes up, he's surprised... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 9th, 2010 at 11:55am Keith's print interviews were done in December. He also did a phoner for Xfm that aired last night. Don't know how recent it is. Mick did print interviews around the same time as Keith, but it seems that he's doing all the heavy lifting in the weeks leading up to the 'Exile' re-issue and documentary... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 9th, 2010 at 1:49pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 9th, 2010 at 11:55am:
I understand why Mick put off doing this crap before... He knew he would be doing all the work. God bless him too... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 9th, 2010 at 2:41pm The making of the Rolling Stones' 'Exile on Main Street' Cotton candy heroin. Wild sex. A Nazi palace. Everything they needed. By TYLER GRAY Last Updated: 9:03 AM, May 9, 2010 Posted: 12:26 AM, May 9, 2010 Sex, drugs, rock ’n’ roll. The Rolling Stones didn’t invent the formula. But they lived it like no other band in history. And when the rapacious taxmen of England came demanding more cash than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards — not to mention bandmates Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor — had or cared to pay in the spring of 1971, the Stones moved their party to the South of France. When they couldn’t find a suitable French Riviera studio to record their 10th album, the Stones set up in the basement of Villa Nellcote, Richards’ rented 16-room mansion on the coast in Villefranche-sur-Mer. All marble and wrought iron, Richards said it looked like it was decorated for “bloody Marie Antoinette.” He also liked to recount its history as a Gestapo headquarters, where Nazis did nasty things in the same basement the Stones used to jam all night. The hallways still had swastika-shaped air vents. “But it’s all right, we’re here now,” he assured recording engineer Andy Johns. By making the record in Richards’ own house, band members figured they could get the famously ramshackle guitarist to show up for the sessions. They were wrong. And Richards wasn’t the only one living on the edge. For a six-month stretch, the Stones swapped partners, ingested every available drug, set fires and nearly drove each other mad while crafting rock’s most decadent record, 1972’s “Exile on Main Street.” On May 18, Universal is reissuing “Exile” in several forms: an 18-track CD; a deluxe edition with 10 previously unreleased songs; and a super-deluxe package with vinyl, a 30-minute documentary DVD and a 50-page photo book. The Post got an early copy of the music and the “Stones in Exile” documentary, which will premiere Friday on “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon.” From these, fresh interviews and Robert Greenfield’s “Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones,” we assembled the most debauched stories of sex, drugs and rock ’n’ roll from the people who actually lived in “Exile.” SEX Gone was the Stones’ usual stream of adoring female fans. For six months, the groupie-gobbling rockers were housebound with significant others. Jagger even got married to Nicaraguan girlfriend Bianca, then pregnant with daughter Jade, during the stretch. Richards shacked up at Nellcote with Italian actress Anita Pallenberg, close pal of Marianne Faithfull and former flame of late Stones guitarist Brian Jones. Fresh from rehab, she arrived with their toddler son, Marlon, in tow. While the recording went on, she managed to fool around with Jagger and have half-conscious, stoned sex with drug dealer Tommy Weber on a Louis XIV bed while Richards was passed out next to them. “It was like a royal court where the nobles were sleeping with each other’s women,” says Greenfield, who spent two weeks living at Nellcote — and a third just hanging around — while on assignment for Rolling Stone that May. He wasn’t the only one to notice the band’s exploits. “Everyone screwed everyone else’s wives and girlfriends,” Johns says. “That’s just the way it was, and you didn’t think too much about that.” After Jagger married Bianca, Pallenberg did her best to break them up, even starting grade-school-style rumors that Bianca was born a man. Pallenberg got pregnant, too, but kept using heroin. She sought a secret abortion, not because of the drugs, but because she thought the child was Mick’s. Richards, meanwhile, wasn’t interested in sex at the time, probably due to his heavy drug abuse. One studio regular recalls Pallenberg complaining, “All he wants is the wanking — he never f - - - s me!” The Stones weren’t the only ones fooling around. Their sidemen were kept busy, too. “I didn’t mind living between Nice and Monte Carlo, didn’t mind that a bit,” says Bobby Keys, the Texas-born, libertine sax man famous for honking on “Brown Sugar” and every Stones record from 1969 to 1974. “I didn’t mind all them pretty girls around the countryside. Yes sir, buddy! That’s when you’re sh - - - in’ in tall cotton!” DRUGS Fueling the excessive behavior at Nellcote was a huge stash of drugs, many smuggled in by Weber, a former Formula One racer turned Afghani hash runner. That May, Weber traveled from England to the Cote d’Azur via Ireland — “in case he was being followed,” Greenfield says — with a pound of coke strapped to the waists of his preteen sons, Charlie and Jake. At age 7, “my function in life was [to be] a joint roller,” says Jake, who grew up to star in the CBS drama “Medium.” Everyone who visited the house seemed bent on self-destruction. John Lennon threw up at the foot of the stairs one day while touring the premises with Yoko Ono. Richards blamed it on too much sun and wine, but it was more likely the ex-Beatle’s methadone habit. As Richards was picking up Marlon’s toys in the living room one night, Greenfield watched him grab a mystery pill off the floor. “Bam! He throws it down his throat,” Greenfield says. “Who knows what he put in his mouth, but that’s Keith. Could have been a vitamin, but I don’t think so. Not in that house.” Jean de Breteuil, the so-called “dealer to the stars” who supplied Jim Morrison with a lethal dose, bought his way into a two-week residence with a toot of ultra-pure pink heroin from Thailand. Richards snorted it from a gold tube he wore around his neck and promptly passed out. Later, Richards paid $9,000 cash ($50,000 today) to a couple of cowboy boot-wearing dealers known as “the Corsicans” for more of the pink junk. The smack arrived in a plastic bag the size of a two-pound sack of sugar, Greenfield writes, and was so potent it had to be cut with three parts glucose — hence its nickname, “cotton candy.” It lasted a month. “With a hit of smack,” Richards says, “I could work through anything and not give a damn.” One night, Richards passed out upstairs after “putting Marlon to bed” — his code for getting loaded. Johns found him with the needle still in his arm, blood spattered on the walls. The studio whiz poked the rock legend to see if he was still alive. “Of course he picks up the guitar, which he was in bed with, goes, ‘Oh, yeah,’ and starts playing,” Johns says. Another time, a chauffeur had to pull Pallenberg and Richards, naked and unconscious, from a bed they’d accidentally set on fire. But the rest of the help wasn’t so useful. The couple’s errand boys, local hoods they called “les cowboys,” were suspected of stealing at least nine vintage guitars and Keys’ engraved saxophones when drug debts went unpaid. By December, French authorities caught wind of the scene and charged the Stones and their pals with heroin possession. As a bonus, Richards and Pallenberg were issued warrants for trafficking. But all of the Stones had high-tailed it to LA a month earlier. Jagger, Taylor, Wyman and Watts eventually returned to France to face the charges, but a combination of fame, luck and bribes got them freed with mere slaps on the wrists. Richards and Pallenberg were banned from France for two years, but they had no plans to return, anyway. They’d fled Nellcote in such haste that they abandoned Marlon’s toys, Pallenberg’s wardrobe, Richards’ record collection, a speedboat, a Jaguar E-type sports car and two pets, Boots the parrot and Okee the dog. ROCK' N' ROLL Many “Exile” songs were recorded during earlier sessions in London, but the album found its soul at Nellcote, informed by the dark habits that had sprung up around the band. “The writing process was very, very loose,” Jagger says. “There wasn’t a sort of master plan. We just accumulated material knowing we would use it one day.” The drugs and infidelities were never discussed, but ego battles ground songwriting and recording to a halt. Jagger would be in Paris with Bianca. Richards would be off somewhere with drug buddy and songwriting pal Gram Parsons, or passed out upstairs. “Sometimes I would just hear this weird rumbling coming from the basement and then realize that I’d slept for almost a whole take,” Richards says. When he did show, Richards preferred a spitball approach to tracking, drummer Charlie Watts says. “A lot of ‘Exile’ was done how Keith works, which is, play it 20 times, marinade, play it another 20 times.” One of the album’s best tracks, “Tumbling Dice,” was typical of the laborious sessions. “We must have had about 40 reels of tape on that one,” Johns says. “But the night we actually got the track, you could tell it was about to happen. If Keith’s looking at Charlie and Bill stands up, you’re going to get something in the next 20 minutes.” While recording a guitar track for what would become the album’s opener, “Rocks Off,” Keith nodded off, prompting Johns to leave for some dearly needed sleep at his own villa, 35 minutes up the coast. When he arrived home, he walked in to hear the phone ringing.“I pick it up, and it’s Keith — ‘Oy, where are you?’ ” Johns says. “I said, ‘Wait a minute. I thought you went to sleep,’ and he said, ‘Well, I’m up now. I’ve gotta do this guitar part. Get back here quick.’ ” Johns obeyed, and was pleased. “He played — and I’m so glad this happened — this sort of counter-rhythm against the original guitar that just made the whole thing move up about three notches. If you sit down and listen to that interplay between the two rhythm guitars, it’s Keith at his very best.” Another fine Richards moment was inspired when he learned Pallenberg was pregnant. He hit the basement to celebrate with a jam. Bassist Wyman, fed up with waiting on Richards and Jagger to show, was on a rented yacht, and drummer Watts was nowhere to be found. So producer Jimmy Miller played drums. Bobby Keys played baritone sax. Out came Richards’ signature song, “Happy.” “We were basically doing the sound check, making sure everything was set up for the session,” Richards says, “and the track just popped out.” After the band left France that December, production on “Exile” continued in LA, where Jagger took over. “I had to finish the whole record myself, because otherwise there were just these drunks and junkies,” he says. Richards does not dispute this. “I never plan anything,” Richards says. “Mick needs to know what he’s going to do tomorrow. Me, I just wake up, see who’s around. Mick’s rock, I’m roll.” Shining a light on new ‘Exile’ songs Tuesday’s new “Exile on Main Street” bonus tracks are touted as unearthed gems from Nellcote, but that’s not entirely true. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards re-recorded vocals and guitars, which producer Don Was deftly blended with old tracks. We sifted the classic from the contrived. 1. Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) “Pass me the wine, let’s make some love” is the refrain — right in line with the Nellcote era. Horns sound like Bobby Keys’. Guitars are authentically out of tune. * Vintage: 90 percent 2. Plundered My Soul It’s present-day Mick singing, “I smell rubber and soon discover that you’re gone for good. My indiscretions made a bad impression. Yes, I was misunderstood.” Stones historian Robert Greenfield says the song itself is old, though, and there’s some satisfying soul here. * Vintage: 50 percent 3. I’m Not Signifying It’s ragtime! “Have you ever had the feeling baby, that you’ve been here before?” young, nasally Mick sings. The bass sounds rubber-band-like and old, as does a harmonica and tinkling Dixieland piano. * Vintage: 95 percent 4. Following the River Mick’s voice is throaty, not like it was in ’71. He sings: “My cards are on the table, but the drinks have all run out,” which doesn’t jibe with the vibe back then. But when a lady chorus comes in, he’s almost crying, and it starts to sound like young Stones. * Vintage: 40 percent 5. Dancing In the Light Mick’s loud, out front and elderly — everything he wasn’t at Nellcote. The guitars are too crisp to have come from a humid basement in the South of France. * Vintage: 10 percent 6. So Divine (Aladdin Story) Young-sounding Mick sings, “You think your life is so divine. You think I’ll drink it like it’s heaven-scented wine.” Snake-charmer guitars are reminiscent of “Paint It Black.” * Vintage: 100 percent 7. Loving Cup (Alternate Take) It’s the drunken honkey tonk version. The band has had more than one drink from the proverbial loving cup. Guitars and bass fall out with the lazy rhythm. Mick Taylor’s riffs sync sweetly with Keith’s vocals. * Vintage: 100 percent 8. Soul Survivor (Alternate Take) Wonder why Keith’s not the lead singer? Lacking real lyrics, he sings, “I just can’t f - - - it. I just can’t suck it!” Later, he just groans, “Et cetera!” * Vintage: 100 percent 9. Good Time Women It starts with screeching harmonica. Mick sings, “Good time women, don’t keep you waiting around,” then mumbles about cocaine and “dry white wine.” This chorus was cannibalized for “Tumbling Dice.” * Vintage: 100 percent 10. Title 5 “Title five, take one,” says an engineer, likely Andy Johns. Then begins an instrumental “Radar Love”-like boogie with a guitar that sounds like a didgeridoo. Pure scraps. * Vintage: 100 percent New York Post |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 9th, 2010 at 3:36pm
I'm already exhuasted from waiting for this... I'm going nito a self induced state of denial... in the hopes I'm not over excited when I get this, and end up let down...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 9th, 2010 at 5:49pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 9th, 2010 at 11:55am:
You can download the Keith XGM interview here : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EP66UWQI Thanks to LolA on IORR for the upload. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 9th, 2010 at 6:49pm REVIEW: STONES IN EXILE Brand new Rolling Stones documentary, Stones In Exile, tells the extraordinary tale of how the original rock n roll rebels accidentally made the greatest album of their career. By all accounts, Exile On Main Street should have been a car crash album. The recording sessions were spread over nearly four years, with occasional tracks put down at Olympic Studios in London, the bulk laid down in the south of France and several songs finished in LA. As a result the album isn’t exactly the most cohesive, with a massive 18 tracks spread over two vinyl discs featuring a vast array of guest musicians, and encompassing everything from blues to country to soul. The record is dirty and loose, with little to no production sheen and certain members of the Stones were in the early stages of a spectacular drug and alcohol binge that would have finished off lesser mortals. And yet, it’s a widely acclaimed masterpiece. So how the hell did that happen? Stones In Exile focuses largely on the time that the band spent in Villa Nellcôte in the south of France after they were forced to leave England due to a mammoth tax bill. A cursory scene-setting opening reinforces the fact that the tax bill handed to the band somehow totalled more than the Stones had even earned, leaving them with a choice of either bankruptcy or exile – so they packed their bags and off they went, taking their shambolic rock n roll circus with them. The film’s staggering amount of footage and photos of the Stones at work (and play) are a joy to behold. It’s an oddly immersive experience that almost gives you the feeling you are at the villa. When the Stones are in the basement jamming a new song, you feel like you’re right there with them. The dark, damp walls practically ooze from the screen courtesy of French photographer Dominique Tarle’s stunning snapshots. The stunning live footage (largely drawn from the film Ladies & Gentlemen… The Rolling Stones) is also a real treat, bringing to life the intensity that no other band has EVER brought to a stage before or since the heyday of the Rolling Stones. Narration is provided by the various protagonists in the Exile story as they tell their own tale, with all of the Stones (including Taylor and Wyman) and other crucial figures on board, including (amongst others) record exec Marshall Chess, producer Jimmy Miller, photographer Dominique Tarle, Anita Pallenberg and saxophonist Bobby Keys. The lack of talking head scenes in the film gives Stones In Exile an autobiographical tone, rather than an investigatory one, and some of the stories are gems (Jagger’s wedding and Wyman’s Brit Abroad rant about the lack of Birds custard and PG Tips is hilarious), making this perhaps the most personal of all Stones films. Some of the more sensational and particularly dark details of the various Rolling Stone escapades are overlooked, perhaps at the behest one or two members of the band who were integral in the making of the film or perhaps because they simply weren’t true (many of the myths that were birthed at Nellcôte have been denied by the band in the past, so it’s no wonder that they don’t address them directly here). The only really glaring omission is that Gram Parsons, who stayed at the Villa, proved a terrible influence and was then asked to leave, is not mentioned once in the film at all. But this documentary isn’t the story of who did what to whom and what they took while they did it. The drugs are mentioned but not necessarily dwelled upon. "There was cocaine, a lot of joints. If you're living a decadent life, there is always darkness there. But, at this point, this was the moment of grace. This was before the darkness, the sunrise before the sunset," says Jake Weber, who was nine when his family was invited to stay at the Villa. Bobby Keys avoids such poeticism "Hell, yeah, there was some pot around, there was some whiskey bottles around, there was scantily clad women. Hell, it was rock'n'roll!" And that’s Exile On Main Street in a nutshell. It is the incarnation of everything great about rock n roll – it’s raucous and loose, joyous and soulful, while sex and drugs pour out of every single second of the 67 minute, 18 track double album. This was Keith Richards’ soul come forth as a long player – and it’s undeniably Richards’ record, as Charlie Watts attests in Stones in Exile “…play it 20 times, marinade, play it another 20 times. He knows what he likes, but he's very loose." Or, as Keys once again beautifully surmises, it was "about as unrehearsed as a hiccup". Stones In Exile may not be the exhaustive examination of the band’s time in Nellcôte, but what it does do with some extraordinary success is remind you of why you love Exile On Main Street and why it is such a special record. If you can watch this film and NOT want to go and immediately listen to Exile then, frankly, you’re just not right in the head. Stones in Exile is on BBC1 at 10.30pm on Sunday 16 May and is released on DVD later in the year through Eagle Rock. planetrock.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Kilroy on May 9th, 2010 at 6:52pm
Excuse if this has been Repeated News
Happy Mother s day., Behind the bonus tracks on Exile on Main St Paul Sexton RECOMMEND? The bonus tracks on the rarities disc in the Exile on Main St reissue are a mixture of unreleased outtakes and incomplete tracks to which Mick Jagger has added new vocals and lyrics, with the latter-day Stones producer Don Was. “I automatically assumed,” Keith Richards says, “that anything good would automatically roll over to, what was the next one, Goats Head Soup? I hadn’t realised there were still some interesting tracks left over. I thought we’d drained the barrel, actually.” “I knew there was loads of stuff lying around,” Jagger explains. “I tried to take things that I didn’t think people had bootlegged very much, or perhaps not at all. Some of it’s stuff that’s never been out. There’s a couple that would compete with anything on Exile, I think.” Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren) RELATED LINKS The Rolling Stones return to Exile Mid-tempo and slinky, with sultry horns by Bobby Keys and Jim Price, and funky detail by Jagger on maracas and harmonica. “You think of Mick Jagger as Mick Jagger, the stereotype image that you’re bound to get as you go along,” Richards says. “But his harp playing has always stood out to me. That’s what makes him a musician.” Plundered My Soul Already being played on radio worldwide, another newly completed piece, one of several with new backing vocals by Lisa Fischer and Cindy Mizelle. It features both the original Richards guitar and new lines added by Mick Taylor. I’m Not Signifying Bar-room piano by Nicky Hopkins introduces period Jagger vocals on a rolling blues tune. Following the River Perhaps the strongest of the “new” songs, a break-up ballad freshly vocalised by Mick, with real passion, over an evocative original track by Hopkins. “I’ve always liked it, but I never quite knew what was going to happen to it,” Jagger says. Dancing in the Light Slightly countrified and mid-paced, with percussion by Jagger and the producer Jimmy Miller, and keyboards by the “sixth Stone”, Ian Stewart. So Divine (Aladdin Story) For the first three seconds, you swear it’s Paint It Black, then it develops its own groove and a nice Middle Eastern sax motif by Keys. Loving Cup (alternate take) A sparser version, with Richards much more to the fore on guitar than on the finished Exile take. Soul Survivor (alternate take) An interesting flip side to the version that closes the original album. Keith takes lead vocals instead of Mick and, ultimately, messes with the lyrics in true demo style. Good Time Women The fascinating origin of what became Exile’s big hit single. “Suddenly, I realised it was Tumbling Dice,” Richards says. “Some songs, you have the basics, but it’s not really formed yet. You just wait for that day where suddenly it’s like it’s been there for ever.” Title 5 A fun, fast-paced minute-and-a-half instrumental that throws back to the Stones’ R&B roots, featuring only Keith, Charlie and Bill. They could almost be back at the Crawdaddy Club. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 9th, 2010 at 7:23pm Pdog wrote on May 9th, 2010 at 3:36pm:
I feel the same way. There has always been something about this record that rocks me to my core. I want it now. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 9th, 2010 at 8:34pm
Best Buy in the US has a bonus interview cd.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=53597800150FEE87B0F7BEBF11E63753.bbolsp-app02-19?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=3223369713290658539&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=exile+on+main+street&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 9th, 2010 at 8:38pm
I'm torn as to what I want to buy. I really want the new tracks on vinyl, but that's not going to happen. The STP box looks great, but you don't get the 64 page Exile book, but you do get a 50 page book of the 72 tour and vinyl. BUT I have Exile on vinyl...a very old copy. It sounds worn, but it's very listenable. For all I know it might be original.
And I do like the Target $9.99 cd. Just the new songs. I have the 94 remaster of Exile and it sounds great. Too many choices! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 9th, 2010 at 8:46pm
And what are the differences in the books? I see a Live Exile and an Exile on Main Street book. What would I do with the keychain and the replica ticket stubs for concerts I've never attended? What's the point of the DVD if it doesn't have the full documentary? How much money should I drop on Exile goodies? Who remastered the vinyl? Is it of high quality? Christ, I need answers for my many questions.
And really, for the price of these box sets, throw the fucking full documentary in there. I do not find it acceptable that they are going to rape me later for a DVD. Stick it up my ass now, Stones, Inc. I bet you a Stones In Exile DVD box set will eventually come out. Mark my words! And watch your ass! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 9th, 2010 at 9:42pm
I don't think this link has been posted here yet, apologies if it has.
This chap does a fair job reviewing the remaster. Photos, links to youtubes included.. http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-rolling-stones-exile-on-main-st-reissue-reviewed-track-by-track-249986/6#content |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 10th, 2010 at 3:38am
Pretty detailed indeed and it's good to hear Cindy Mizelle is back (on PMS) but he seems to be more interested in sounding smart than focusing on the tracks (like forgetting to mention MTs playing on PMS and thinking the slide on IAS might be a recent Keith...right), I only read the "bonus tracks" part.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on May 10th, 2010 at 4:53am
I just want a remastered Exile (to see any improvement to hear if they've "Was-ed" it up & the bonus tracks. Aint interested in the other fluff. I'll get the full doco on dvd & then eagerly pace up and down my hallway like an expectant father for the dvd release of "L&G".
Anyway, that track by track review is fantastic. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 10th, 2010 at 8:06am
I'm getting it all. I'm going to best buy and target and maybe fye. I hope they didn't "Was-up" it either. I gave away my only copy of Exile to someone many weeks ago in preparation for this shit. It's gonna be a big day tater.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 10th, 2010 at 8:15am
I will be hanging out by fye at the mall and as people walk by, like a proud father, I will point at the display and say those are my boys.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by straycatuk on May 10th, 2010 at 11:30am
I'm buying the deluxe 2 cd only as I can see the super deluxe going on a shelf and been too precious for constant fingering.
I don't like cds slotted into card - they scuff easily and I've had my vinyl copy for almost 30 years. sc uk |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 10th, 2010 at 12:20pm Some Guy wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 8:15am:
gee..make sure your boys are in your pants cause I'm not driving across town to bail you out! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 10th, 2010 at 3:24pm
For those over seas that don't get Jimmy Fallon show and Exile week here is a link where the shows will be posted for free. Sorry if this has been posted before:
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/friday-may-7-2010/1226048/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 10th, 2010 at 3:48pm gimmekeef wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 12:20pm:
:booze :-/ :weed :weed |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 10th, 2010 at 4:04pm
next Tuesday is National Stones Day Holiday for all fans and most of Wednesday.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on May 10th, 2010 at 4:16pm gimmekeef wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 12:20pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 10th, 2010 at 4:18pm gimmekeef wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 3:24pm:
gk, go to a better liquor store and look for the high gravity beers. Pick up a 6 pack of Terrapin Hopsecutioner. Get some Iron Tankard also. Best beer ever! www.terrapinbeer.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 10th, 2010 at 4:20pm Exile on Rodeo Drive: Universal Begins Rolling Out the Stones Gear by Peter Newcomb May 10, 2010, 12:42 PM Next week, Universal Music Group will release its greatly expanded edition of the Rolling Stones’ seminal 1972 recording Exile on Main Street. Big news for Stones fans (10 bonus tracks!), but don’t be surprised if the music takes a back seat to the staggering amount of Exile-related merchandise being dropped into the market as well. Universal’s merchandising arm, Bravado, is assembling an unprecedented collection of products tied to the Exile re-release that cuts across the entire economic strata, from $15 T-shirts to $500,000 jewel-encrusted belt buckles. The signature piece: a 65-pound glossy wooden box packed with, among other goodies, the new CD, a 64-page clothbound photo album of Exile-era pictures taken by French photographer Dominique Tarle, a DVD containing excerpts from the documentary Stones in Exile, the infamous Cocksucker Blues (filmed during the Stones’ 1972 American tour), and Ladies and Gentlemen … The Rolling Stones, as well as three lithographs individually signed by either Mick Jagger, Keith Richards or Charlie Watts. All this—plus a T-shirt—can be yours for just $2,000. The first 200 boxes, containing a silver key chain designed by Goth jeweler Chrome Hearts, will sell for $2,500. An even smaller number of boxes, fashioned from ebony, will retail for $25,000. Other Exile-themed artifacts include a pinball machine ($4,500), a metal roadie case ($500), a set of poker chips ($175), cuff links ($35), and lots and lots of T-shirts—some 60 different designs. Also in the works: a formal high-back chair ($1,000 to $1,500) and a pair of heels designed by rock ’n’ roll cobbler Terry de Havilland. vanityfair.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 10th, 2010 at 4:32pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 4:20pm:
holy mary mother of god... will there be an exile car or motorcycle... maybe you can have a contractor come and build a nelcote style basement at your home... how about the gold plated syringe... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on May 10th, 2010 at 4:38pm Some Guy wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 4:18pm:
i'd sooner purchase a replica of an inflateable penis than this............. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 10th, 2010 at 4:44pm mojoman wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 4:38pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 10th, 2010 at 4:51pm
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 10th, 2010 at 4:54pm WIN SIGNED, ORIGINAL EXILE ON MAIN STREET LP To celebrate the brand new reissue of landmark Rolling Stones album, Exile On Main Street, we have a mindblowing competition for you. Kicking off on Monday 17 May we have copies of the Deluxe Edition 2CD Reissue of Exile to give away EVERY DAY along with a very cool Stones T-Shirt. And then on Monday 31 May ONE lucky Planet Rock listener who has entered the competitions (you can enter everyday if you want to) will win themselves a prize that will make you weep with envy - a signed, original copy of Exile On Main Street on LP, a Deluxe Reissue of Exile, a Personalised Exile presentation disc and an ENTIRE Rolling Stones back catalogue: You can enter each of the daily competitions to give yourself 14 chances of winning and the winner will be announced in Nicky's show on Monday 31 May. So on MONDAY 17 MAY head back to www.planetrock.com/rollingstones for your first chance to win this fantastic prize. planetrock.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on May 10th, 2010 at 8:58pm
According to Fallon, TAJ MAHAL and GREEN DAY will be performing Exile hits tonight!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 10th, 2010 at 9:08pm Sheryl Crow's Wednesday night 'Exile' song has been announced... The list of artists and songs: 5/10 Green Day - 'Rip This Joint' Taj Mahal (with The Roots) - 'Shine A Light' 5/11 Keith Urban - 'Tumbling Dice' 5/12 Sheryl Crow - 'All Down The Line' 5/13 Phish - 'Loving Cup' www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 10th, 2010 at 10:04pm
cant wait ! we are a day ahead in OZ
we dont get Fridays show till next Monday will the whole Fri show be the Exile screening, or is after the show ? :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 10th, 2010 at 10:09pm Friday night is the premiere of 'Stones In Exile', shown with limited commercial interruption. Mick's likely to be there, too. BTW, you don't have to wait until Monday. You can watch the shows online @ www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 10th, 2010 at 10:18pm
great news !
thanks for that :smilemick |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 11th, 2010 at 12:01am
This Jimmy Fallon tie-in is a train wreck. It reeks of desperation. I only got 10, 15 minutes in and had to turn it off. Terrible, terrible idea.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 11th, 2010 at 12:22am Steel Wheels wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 12:01am:
Could you expand on that? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 11th, 2010 at 1:55am
It's a little disjointed and not much decent marketing as usual with the Stones but I thought Green Day did a really good job. Stones covers are generally unbearable but I thought it was pretty good. For a band who doesn't play that kind of music, they sounded pretty tight and Billy Joe Armstrong's phrasing sounded good too and his solo was decent too. Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtlcB0dTkA
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 11th, 2010 at 4:03am Steel Wheels wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 12:01am:
Too bad you turned it off. Taj doing "Shine A Light" was wonderful. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 11th, 2010 at 4:05am
Well, I have finally done it. I have pre-ordered the 'Super-Deluxe' Exile on Main Street from amazon.co.uk for a princely sum of 99 pounds and 93 English pennies.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 11th, 2010 at 5:08am
I feel better now that I know Mick AND Keith were in NYC yesterday doing press TOGETHER.
http://shidoobeewithstonesdoug.yuku.com/topic/23433/t/I-worked-with-MICK-KEITH-today-in-NY.html LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 11th, 2010 at 5:49am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MWTDzGUNM
damn i am getting pumped !!!!!!!!! :perverted :perverted :perverted :perverted |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 5:53am
This time next week I will be gearing up to head out.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 11th, 2010 at 6:25am
I'm sure the Taj performance was perfect. I'll catch it online. I will not tune in to this infomercial again unless Mick and Keef are on it. It felt forced to me, especially the Lick Something for 10 Bucks game with a Stones theme. The Roots houseband cannot play music well. Jimmy seemed uncomfortable so I turned the thing off. The ratings on Jimmy's show are so low to begin with. No one watches it.
And the thought of the Stones with World Series trophy seems terrible! Another bad idea! I want to get the $500.00 giant box set, but it's not shipping till the end of the month. That's a long time to wait after the other sets come out. Stones, Inc. should have had those box sets ready to ship. Instead of getting it, I just might go to Target and get the $9.99 single disc of the new songs and forget the idea of plunking down the big money. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 11th, 2010 at 7:19am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 4:20pm:
Keepin' rock 'n' roll alive! I'm sure the knob-end (there cant be more than one, surely) who paid half a million for a belt buckle is feeling pretty dangerous. I've just been sick in Cohl's beard. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 7:45am
closest we've been so far.....
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on May 11th, 2010 at 7:47am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 11th, 2010 at 9:10am
I agree that the nonmusical segments were cheesy and smacked of overkill. But the Green Day and Taj performances were very cool, I thought.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 11th, 2010 at 9:30am The Wick wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 1:55am:
Not bad. I'd say Green Day rocked that pretty good. :keithpunky |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 10:15am 'Exile On Main Street 2010 - From The Production Line' is up at the Rolling Stones YouTube channel. Gives you a peek at Super Deluxe, including some of the book's contents. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bqp7nXumzw |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 11th, 2010 at 10:51am
I just watched it.
Green Day nailed it. Taj was incredible. Literally brought tears to my eyes. Exile is the fucking greatest album of all time. Amazing how the 2 songs are complete opposites. Someone thought this through and it was great except for the lick for ten bucks deal. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 10:55am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 10:15am:
VERY NEAT!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 10:59am Throwaway wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 7:47am:
I like it better when Taj Mahal's mama going fishing daddy going fishing and the baby going fishing too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 11:36am
The comedy skits were brilliant, Jimmie Fallon is a genius.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 11:44am Some Guy wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 5:53am:
where are you going? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 11:45am Tumbled wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 11:44am:
Hanging out on the deck showing off my boys |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 11th, 2010 at 11:55am Some Guy wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 11:36am:
Jimmy Fallon is unwatchable. :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 11th, 2010 at 12:20pm
Unless they are by the Stones (who geneally make them their own), I don't like covers, particularly the covers of Stones songs, give us Exile already!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on May 11th, 2010 at 12:34pm Tumbled wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 10:55am:
Can't wait for next Tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 11th, 2010 at 12:35pm buddhabone wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Aye-fucking-greed... what a great show musically... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on May 11th, 2010 at 12:41pm
Don't know if anybody seen this.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/05/exile-on-rodeo-drive-universal-begins-rolling-out-the-stones-gear.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 12:42pm Liked 'em both - especially Taj Mahal. God bless the internet. Saw everything I needed to see in 10 minutes. Betcha Keith Urban does a good job with 'Tumbling Dice' tonight... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 12:47pm
I don't think I've ever been this happy.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 1:02pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 11:55am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 1:26pm FWIW, saw this tweet from "Ill Literate" : Just got word that the Rolling Stones will be hanging out at a private event at a major NYC museum tonight! You heard it here first. Makes sense, as Pierre Robert of WMMR says his interview with Mick, Keith and Charlie is happening tomorrow in NYC. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 11th, 2010 at 1:34pm
PMS perfomed live on Jimmy Fallon this Friday, no?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 1:39pm Don't know about that, but Friday night's show might have some real juice... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 11th, 2010 at 1:43pm
Rumor is that Mick as a surprise cameo in Jimmy Fallon's parody of "Lost" airing on tonight's show (pre-recorded).
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 11th, 2010 at 1:45pm
[quote author=Steel Wheels link=1267023633/1200#1214 date=1273577151]I'm sure the Taj performance was perfect. I'll catch it online. I will not tune in to this infomercial again unless Mick and Keef are on it. It felt forced to me, especially the Lick Something for 10 Bucks game with a Stones theme. The Roots houseband cannot play music well. Jimmy seemed uncomfortable so I turned the thing off. The ratings on Jimmy's show are so low to begin with. No one watches it.
quote] Been out of the loop and forgot it was this week. Steel, I've had the same reservations about the promotional stuff, particularly the Fallon stuff. I know he's in awe of the Stones, but still. I'll catch the performances on youtube. Exile is the bible to me, and while I'm ecstatic that Exile is finally being taken out of the basement and into the mainsteam, the light, so to speak, and equally ecstatic that the Stones, and Mick especially, is paying tribute to that time......but the Target connection, the Fallon show which, as you pointed out, no one watches anyway, is overkill. I'll enjoy the performances and all, but I just hope this doesn't backfire - You know, the 'Exile on Main Street is overrated...' Debbie-downers etc.... because that will surely come. I've always dreamed of people discovering this album and a young generation rediscovering the Stones at their peak. But overkill is a possibility. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 1:49pm All of this "overkill' is aimed at ensuring the success of the 'Exile' re-issue. If it tanks, the likelihood of future vault releases decreases exponentially. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 1:53pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 1:26pm:
a museum? which museum?? They are less than 200 miles away from moi!!! I'm so excited. I'm getting exiled |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 1:57pm Well, there's more than one "major" museum in NYC. Maybe Mick will be making another visit to The Met. This time with bandmates in tow... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 2:08pm
We need a spy.... Its only 227 miles away but I am pinned down
We need more information.. Doesn't Bitch (Ellen) live in NY? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 2:14pm Not to worry. If it does happen there'll be plenty of photographic evidence shortly thereafter. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 11th, 2010 at 2:16pm Tumbled wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 2:08pm:
She is our party girl on the scene. Plus I just know she's got a mick radar. :wtf2 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 2:49pm
Maybe she's already on the assignment!! :areyoufuckingserious
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 11th, 2010 at 2:58pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 11:55am:
Oh no he is not! He was Wicked Pissah in Fevah Pitch. Now he's the king for the Stones Week Salute to Exile. Get on board SCL! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 3:02pm Nellcote wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 2:58pm:
Hope you get the chance to tell him that in person mañana, Nellie... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 11th, 2010 at 3:02pm Tumbled wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 2:08pm:
Not quite. She lives in New Jersey. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 11th, 2010 at 3:11pm
Ellen is attending the Jimmy Fallon taping this evening. I'm sure she'll report in on that.
And maybe her Mick radar will help her find him in NYC after the show. He is here. Or she may run off with Keith Urban..... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Jesus Christ on May 11th, 2010 at 3:16pm
Pardon moi if it's already been posted - from Gigwise:
News » Keith Richards Hints At Special Rolling Stones Gigs Guitarist talks about their live plans... May 10, 2010 by Jason Gregory | Keith Richards has hinted that the Rolling Stones may stage a series of one-off gigs which see them play some of their most famous albums in full. The guitarist told XFM that the idea had been suggested within the group, but that any plans had yet to be finalised. “I have heard a rumour being passed around, but it's in the rumour area," Richards said. “I have heard the idea being mentioned in passing. Where there's smoke, there's fire, you know? He added: “That idea has occurred a few years back, where tonight you do 'Let It Bleed'… it’s an idea that’s been around, but we haven't taken it by the horns yet.” The Rolling Stones last tour, A Bigger Bang, ended in 2007. Richards’ comments coincide with the re-release of the band’s 1972 album 'Exile On Main Street'. http://www.gigwise.com/news/56267/Keith-Richards-Hints-At-Special-Rolling-Stones-Gigs |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 3:25pm
Jesus. please.
listen and then make your own conclusion (go to XM Meets) to listen again. http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2010/keith-richards-exiles-making-was-hitleresque He was asked that silly question by the interviewer Iam Camfield and Keith said, well I've heard that idea tossed around before, I wouldn't dismiss it entirely and where there is smoke there is fire. but in Keith lingo that doesn't really mean much at all. He's not going to squash the dreams, typically in conversation. if you need a postal code type in WCN 1n3. that's what I did and it worked. Its worth a listen becuase the typical raspiness is for once missing from the voice. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 11th, 2010 at 3:26pm
Already posted here, my Lord, so understandable that thou missed it.
http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1273570266 yea, verily, it's utter bollocks, btw. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 11th, 2010 at 4:11pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by tumbledsomebody on May 11th, 2010 at 4:23pm Pdog wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 4:11pm:
Yea Baby. Keep pressing out those vinyl lps. I shouldn't have snapped on Jesus. I feel bad now. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 11th, 2010 at 4:32pm Tumbled wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 4:23pm:
he is very forgiving... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 4:59pm For those those that haven't yet DL'd it or had no luck with the postal code login, the Keith Xfm interview is archived here. No muss, no fuss... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 11th, 2010 at 5:34pm
I'm a little surprised about how much everyone enjoyed Taj Mahal's performance. I love Taj Mahal but I thought the cover was very pedestrian and he couldn't add his usual touches because he seemed to be reading the lyrics the whole time. Apart from the last solo which was just odd, I thought the Roots guitarist got a nice sort of Stones sound while not sounding like a straight copy. Can't say I'm too excited about Keith Urban and Sheryl Crow but let's see how it goes.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 11th, 2010 at 5:55pm Nellcote wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 2:58pm:
Nellie I think he's secretly a Yankee fan. :smilemick |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 6:10pm The Wick wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 5:34pm:
Taj was clearly reading the lyrics. Guess maybe he could've rehearsed it a bit more... Aside from that, what I liked about it was the solid accompaniment from The Roots and the gospelish vibe of the background singers. Speaking of The Roots, couple of tweets from questlove about tonight's show: damn. Keith Urban is killin Tumblin Dice. when we back Sheryl tomorrow we better bring it. HOLY SH*T @ LATE. i aint sayin nothin. WATCH @latenightjimmy. lol knew id tweet so they kept it from me #bastards!!!!! http://twitter.com/questlove |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:20pm
And it keeps on coming....
Video of ADTL from Exile remastered up @ Amazon Scroll to the bottom, click on related media http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039TD7RC/ref=s9_simv_bw_p15_t1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=07GW57ZCPH6D84ENEBQ2&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1247290242&pf_rd_i=5174 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 6:25pm Hells yeah! 'L & G' cleaned up mighty fine... :) Nice find, Nellie. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:30pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
It just dropped on my Facebook feed. As Keith would say..."incoming".... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 11th, 2010 at 6:46pm The Wick wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 5:34pm:
Ditto, although I'm slightly more interested in Urban's rendition because he's a good guitarist.....but Sheryl Crow is just too light, too too Sheryl Crow for the Stones... She's a fan, and Mick and Keith love her, but at least Linda Ronstadt ripped her voice to sing Tumbling Dice back in the day. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 11th, 2010 at 6:56pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
That was awesome. The "L&G" restoration maybe the best thing of all to come out of this whole archival spasm! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on May 11th, 2010 at 7:41pm Nellcote wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:30pm:
yes i saw that one. ( oh and by the way, thanks for convincing me to join the fray_LOL!) Good remastering job there! Have a great time in NYC! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 7:45pm From tonight's 'Exile' party at the Metropolitan Museum Of Art. Photos: Getty Images http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100512/capt.307766f4573c4f809ef223768db94777-307766f4573c4f809ef223768db94777-0.jpg?x=242&y=345&q=85&sig=1MH_iaaVob0IKws2GkJ3AQ-- http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100512/capt.c7d12911bfd94358996d36c10fa9da9e-c7d12911bfd94358996d36c10fa9da9e-0.jpg?x=400&y=269&q=85&sig=NhCUUFJZvOhwh0l8UI28gw-- Photos: AP Damn, the boys look good... 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on May 11th, 2010 at 7:50pm
good find lefty! 8-) 8-)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 11th, 2010 at 8:00pm
Excellent.
Enjoyed the Green Day and Taj covers as well. I was pretty underwhelmed when I saw the line up at the beginning but I thought they both did pretty well. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on May 11th, 2010 at 8:04pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:10pm:
I knew he'd kill it! Question is can I stay up that late to watch it! ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 11th, 2010 at 8:12pm
They all look very healthy ... Interesting that there's no Ronnie. I realize he wasn't an "Exile" Stone, but still—under different circumstances, I could see him participating anyway.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 11th, 2010 at 8:14pm BESTILL MY HEART!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 11th, 2010 at 8:20pm
Thank you, Lefty!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 11th, 2010 at 8:24pm
Yes, Thank You Leftie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SV, take a guess. Is LJ crying right now??????!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on May 11th, 2010 at 8:32pm
Great pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 11th, 2010 at 8:42pm
Tingle, tingle, tingle.......
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 11th, 2010 at 8:49pm
I'm ready. Seeing the production video has pushed me over the edge.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 11th, 2010 at 9:12pm
Some more pix, sent by moy. Some of the already posted by left shoe shuffle but here bigger
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 11th, 2010 at 9:15pm
The Stones PR machine continues to churn....
This is from Larry King's website: |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 11th, 2010 at 9:26pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
Wow... (chanting) Nellie, Nellie, Nellie!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 11th, 2010 at 9:47pm
Some non-stones pictures (same credits and thanks to moy)
Jimmy Fallon Evangeline Lily Kristen Wiig |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 11th, 2010 at 9:52pm
Bonus track: In the meantime Georgia following daddy's instructions in St Tropez
:forfucksake Award: The most off-topic comment so far in this thread :thatwassmart |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on May 11th, 2010 at 9:55pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 9:52pm:
I know, I know... you just can't help yourself,Voodoo, right??!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 11th, 2010 at 9:57pm
Did you realize it is Jumacfly with Georgia in than picture?
:aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 11th, 2010 at 10:01pm Mel Belli wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 8:12pm:
Yeah I hear ya Mel. It's like the Stones PR machine on Roids. They don't get this much pub for a regular tour....And yet. Not a Wood in site. :-? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 11th, 2010 at 10:01pm Some more pics. Watermarked, but hey... Dr. John Photos: Mike Coppola |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 11th, 2010 at 10:05pm
Fantastic pictures, thanks a lot lefty!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 11th, 2010 at 10:09pm
Yeah the three of them all look great.Keith has got the best set of choppers money can buy. Got a feeling ya can probably see those puppies from space. Still a little wierd with no Ronnie. But then again those 3 were there for Exile. So let's hope they enjoy each other's company enough to crank it up one more time. :willya :keithpunky and yes we'd even take some :warhorse :warhorse :shutthefuckup
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on May 11th, 2010 at 10:53pm
GREAT pics of MICK, L'Wren, Charlie, KEEF & Pattie, but who dressed Dr. John? :smoking
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 11th, 2010 at 10:58pm
Ron Wood's a knob. Mick and Keith are commercial and lazy tossers who don't give a toss about a lot of Stones things, and a whole lot of other complaints, but what can I say, when I see pictures like this, it still gives me a thrill the same way it did that I saw them many years ago. The term "legends" gets thrown around for shite like Madonna but when you see the real thing, it's hard not to get goose bumps. Let's hope there is a surprise later on in the week. As much as I hate them for allowing Timbershite on stage with them, I can't help it, they are and always will be the greatest. Bring them all on, when the Stones are in town, everybody else is a distant second.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 12:52am Keith Urban's take on 'Tumbling Dice' - www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2010/05/rolling-stones-week-keith-urban Might have muffed some lyrics, but that feel was all there. Liked the "watching the Cumberland rise" nod to Nashville, too. Real good stuff... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 12th, 2010 at 2:36am
Mick was pretty funny although I don't watch Lost so it didn't mean as much for me. Gazza, how dodgy was that accent? Only marginally better than the Lucky Charms ad.
Keith Urban probably did as well as someone can do it I suppose but it's just Tumbling Dice is one of those that only Mick can really do. It's one of those that he owns in terms of the singing because his phrasing is so important to it. For all the criticism he gets, Chuck Leavell was the best part of the performance. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Teiz on May 12th, 2010 at 2:54am
Now that the reissue is getting so much exposure, now that there's a new site, it's time for a fuckin' tour. I want an announcement ASAP.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 12th, 2010 at 3:10am
Yes, they certainly have everyone's attention for a big announcement !
If anything Keith's fingers don't seem to have gotten any worse, actually they look less scary in that close-up pic than they have in the past. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 12th, 2010 at 3:34am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFWH9OUt-o
Keith Urban from Fallon without the annoying ad :smilemick |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Teiz on May 12th, 2010 at 3:38am
Thanks, but I don't think I'm gonna watch KU perform. I fear I'll be annoyed.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 12th, 2010 at 4:03am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 12:52am:
agreed! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 12th, 2010 at 4:38am
All Down The Line to NYC.......
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 12th, 2010 at 4:59am Nellcote wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 4:38am:
Godspeed Nelly!!! Two pics for the men: --L'Wren and Patti --Alexandra |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 12th, 2010 at 5:21am
Charlie, Mick, and Keith look well rested and in good spirits. I sure hope they had a board meeting last night regarding the next tour.
Looking forward to seeing everyone this afternoon |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 12th, 2010 at 6:18am
They've all got a song this Friday on Fallon hair.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 12th, 2010 at 7:24am
Ronnie isn't missing... Bill is...
just my 2 cents, but it his choice, if he wanted to be there, he could. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 12th, 2010 at 7:24am sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 11th, 2010 at 10:01pm:
After almost three years of no Stones activity at all save for a couple of photocalls at movie premieres, I'm actually getting a fair amount of 'Wood' of my own of late with all this 'Exile' business. Does that count? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on May 12th, 2010 at 7:40am
Yep..he killed it! 8-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFWH9OUt-o edit: sorry Lefty, I was so excited after watching, I missed your post-LOL |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 12th, 2010 at 7:57am
[quote author=Gazza link=1267023633/1300#1303 date=1273667064
I'm actually getting a fair amount of 'Wood' of my own of late with all this 'Exile' business. Does that count?[/quote] Oh, Gazza, you are so vulgar! :aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 12th, 2010 at 8:01am PartyDoll MEG wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 7:40am:
I'm going to agree with ya, Meg, 100%! Not bad on the eyes either! 8-) 8-) LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on May 12th, 2010 at 8:05am
Holy shit!
They all look great. I really can't take much more of this. :pullanolte :pullanolte That's not really true... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 12th, 2010 at 8:20am
;D ;D
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 12th, 2010 at 8:21am
Keith does indeed look very healthy, indeed. Perhaps he has cut back on the less-healthy aspects of his lifestyle: smoking and drinking, to name his two major vices. I can honestly say that he looks the equal of Mick and Charlie in the healthy stakes. ‘Ol Ronnie needs to get himself in shape if he intends to keep up the original trio.
One additional point: I know Ronnie wasn’t a Rolling Stone during the Exile On Main Street-era, but, IMO, as a current Rolling Stone, he should be involved at these events. He’s been with them since ’75 – ’76 officially – so it isn’t as if he is a newbie, still. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on May 12th, 2010 at 8:27am
Kinda makes you wonder if maybe Ronnie has been told to stand down for awhile.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on May 12th, 2010 at 8:44am nankerphelge wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 8:27am:
No doubt. The Exile angle is convenient to that end. Maybe he'll get the message: "You need us more than we need you. Get your shit together and maybe the next deluxe reissue is Some Girls instead of Sticky Fingers or Goat's Head Soup." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 12th, 2010 at 8:56am
Some more, thanks moy
Don Was Lisa Robinson (she can do a great interview about Exile hope she did it) here with Fran Lebowitz Steve Jordan |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 12th, 2010 at 9:06am This already posted by Lady Jane now without marks :aimama :blankfriggingstare1 :forfucksake |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 12th, 2010 at 9:34am Deathgod wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 3:34am:
Well that were'nt bad at all....and with Chuck Leavell on keyboards,all the backup singers and horn section. It wasn't all that different from the Stones these days. ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Lazy Bones on May 12th, 2010 at 9:35am By Rolling Stone May 12, 2010 12:05 AM EDT The Rolling Stones had a Number One album and a few legal snafus under their belt when they fled England in search of a proper spot to record in 1971. Where they landed (the South of France) and what they did there (channeled notorious debauchery into some of the best work of their career) would become the stuff of rock & roll legend. It became Exile on Main Street. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards look back on making their gritty 1972 masterpiece — which is due May 18th as a reissue featuring 10 outtakes — in the new issue of Rolling Stone, on sale at newsstands now and available to All Access subscribers today (May 12th). In new interviews, Richards transports writer David Gates back to the filthy basement of Nellcôte, admitting, "It wasn't a great environment for, like, breathing. It was very Hitleresque — the last days of Berlin sort of thing." Sessions were stymied by electrical outages, Jagger's then-wife's labor pains and the fact that Richards was working on a different internal clock ("It's not me being arrogant or anything. It's just that I was asleep," he says.) Look back at all of the Stones' appearance on the cover of Rolling Stone. But beyond the myth of Exile is the music: Richards recalls loving working with guitarist Mick Taylor, telling RS, "Mick Taylor was such a virtuoso, and I was just very raw … if I had my way, he's still be in the band." Jagger says, "I think it's kind of sprawling, so that you can always find other little nugget things that you haven't heard," musing on the record's incredible endurance. The frontman goes on to explain the process of dusting off found tracks for the reissue and how he really remembers those epic sessions today. Get the full story in our new issue now, and revisit the best of our Rolling Stones coverage in the RS archives: • Mick Jagger's First-Ever Rolling Stone Interview • The Stones in L.A.: Main Street Exiles • On the Road With the Rolling Stones: Inside the Band's 1975 Tour of the South • Torn and Frayed: Photos From the Making of Exile on Main Street • The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time: Exile on Main Street Plus, Phish's Trey Anastasio, Pearl Jam's Mike McCready, Elvis Costello and more artists reflect on the album's impact in Shine a Light: Rockers on the Genius of Exile on Main Street. Flip through our best shots of the Rolling Stones Live. And read more exclusive Q&As with Jagger and Richards as they reveal Secrets Behind Exile on Main Street . Also in this issue: Hanging with bitchy, hard-partying duo the Black Keys; Tim Dickinson on Karl Rove's new plot to destroy the Democrats; McKenzie Funk on evil investors getting rich off global chaos; Charles M. Young profiles soul great Solomon Burke; inside the Hold Steady's new masterpiece; Ozzy Osbourne returns to metal thunder. Plus, find out how Grass Roots guitarist Creed Bratton wound up on The Office and watch an exclusive performance live from the RS offices. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 12th, 2010 at 9:58am
I wish all these trips back to 1972 could be authenticated by being purchased at 1972 prices.
This nostalgia-fest of late is costin me a fortune - but I wouldnt have it any other way, to be honest. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 12th, 2010 at 10:23am
I am literally too excited, I don't know how I will act next week!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 12th, 2010 at 10:43am Some Guy wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:23am:
I'm going to act like a fool... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on May 12th, 2010 at 10:46am
Tiny MoMA video from May 11 plus the regular Exile promo video
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/video/stones-doc-debuts/article1565964/?view=pick s |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 12th, 2010 at 10:52am Some Guy wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:23am:
The stuff we get will bust my brains out, and make me lose my mind.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 12th, 2010 at 11:06am nankerphelge wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 8:27am:
I've been thinking that myself. They want positive vibes for all of our Exile fun, not Ronnie's current drama. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 11:26am IMO it's simply a matter of Ronnie's not being a member during 'Exile'. Aside from his radio show, he's kept a very low profile of late. Hopefully that's a sign that he's focusing on his sobriety. When/if they reconvene for the next project, he'll no doubt be a part of it. Well rested and rarin' to go... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 12:16pm The Rolling Stones Return to 'Exile' May 12, 2010 By JIM FUSILLI Mick Jagger and Keith Richards at Nellcôte. Dominique Tarlé In 1971, faced with huge, unexpected tax problems, the Rolling Stones fled the U.K. for the Côte d'Azur to record their next album, which became "Exile on Main Street." With all sorts of rock, country gospel and blues scattered among its 18 original and sometimes sloppy cuts, "Exile" at the time of its release in 1972 was seen as a misstep by the Stones, especially on the heels of the release of the band's seamless "Sticky Fingers" a year earlier. But "Exile," which is being reissued on May 18 with 10 previously unreleased tracks, is now considered a classic. "Most critics disapproved, but the sales were good," said Marshall Chess, who had been president of Rolling Stones Records at the time. It's said that "Exile" was all but lost to drink, drugs and the chaos of the life at Nellcôte, the 16-room mansion at Villefranche-sur-Mer rented by Keith Richards to serve as band headquarters. Part of the album's legend is that Mr. Richards rented the place because Errol Flynn's yacht, which he wanted to buy, was anchored in a nearby port. Perhaps, but when we spoke by phone recently, he said that he chose the south of France so the Stones could return quickly to the U.K. if family emergencies arose. "Some of the cats didn't want to go—Bill and Charlie," said Mr. Richards, referring to bassist Bill Wyman and drummer Charlie Watts. "But they did for the glory, duty and honor of the band." "It was a pretty creative period," Mick Jagger said, also by phone. "It had its ups and downs. We had legal problems, but they weren't so huge that they loomed over our work." The band, including guitarist Mick Taylor, along with pianist Nicky Hopkins, saxophonist Bobby Keyes and producer Jimmy Miller, set up a makeshift studio in the mansion's dank basement, a cache of minor celebrities, drug dealers and hangers-on upstairs. "It was pretty gruesome," Mr. Richards said. "But there were two ways to look at it. One, you're actually doing it in a murky basement. Or you're in a studio, which wasn't that unique for the Stones." Once the band got to work, he said, "it never mattered to me or the other guys." Mr. Jagger considers the "Exile" period to have begun before the band settled in the south of France. "It had a long gestation period," he said. "All Down the Line," "Loving Cup" and "Shine a Light" were written well before the Stones left home. The version of Robert Johnson's "Stop Breaking Down," Mr. Jagger told me, was recorded earlier at London's Olympic Sound Studios "while we were waiting for Keith to come." At Nellcôte, Mr. Richards said, "I'm upstairs writing during the day or on the weekends. Every song you write, you have to sell it to the band first. That's the first test." As an example, he cited "Good Time Women," another previously unreleased track in the new package. "We played around with it for days, if not weeks. It wasn't quite working. So then you go back and try to work it out." Mr. Richards came up with a different opening. "I said, 'I've got something here.' The way it slid off the fingers. I had to get the tempo right before I laid it on the band. I knew Charlie would pick it up instantly." With the new riff up front, the band rerecorded the song as "Tumbling Dice," the only hit single from "Exile." Working through the night, recording songs, partial songs and riffs that had the potential to develop into a song, the Nellcôte sessions dragged on. Said Mr. Chess, "The way the Rolling Stones works is the opposite of deliberate." Reconnecting with their musical influences at times provided a sort of focus. "They were reacting to soul music. All of their influences are in there." Soon the band relocated to Los Angeles's Sunset Sound Recorders to continue recording. The frantic second number, "Rip this Joint," was among the tracks cut there. "Yeah, that one," said Mr. Richards with a laugh. "You know, 'It's got to be fast, Charlie.' Let's go as fast as we can go and still get out the other side." "Exile" began to come together. Mr. Jagger brought in Billy Preston, Dr. John and a group of soul singers to augment the core band. Nellcôte's raw performances were edited and in some cases rerecorded. "A lot of my vocals were done in L.A.," Mr. Jagger recalled. Soon, a final product began to emerge. Released in May 1972 as a two-record set, "Exile on Main Street" reached the No. 1 slot on the U.S. and U.K. charts. Nearly four decades later, Mr. Jagger dug into the old tapes to unearth material for a new "Exile." He said a few backing tracks had to be reconstructed. "Some of them are pretty together—'Following the River' and 'Plundered My Soul' didn't need to be touched." But other instrumental tracks hadn't taken shape. "When you look at it more analytically, you find the verse and the chorus." Mr. Jagger added new vocals to some of the unreleased tracks. The alternate versions of "Loving Cup" and "Soul Survivor" are as they were back in '72, he said, but he and producer Don Was reworked "So Divine." "It had no vocal or top line," Mr. Jagger said. "I wrote lyrics." "I'm Not Signifying" is pretty close to the Stones' original rendition; Mr. Jagger added a harmonica part. As for Mr. Richards, he wasn't much interested in toying with history. "My point of view on the new stuff," he said, "is I didn't want to repaint the smile on the Mona Lisa." The Wall Street Journal There's also a short clip from 'Stones In Exile'. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 12th, 2010 at 12:17pm Gazza wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:52am:
I will be running out of the store like I stole something |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 12th, 2010 at 12:21pm Some Guy wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 12:17pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by mojoman on May 12th, 2010 at 12:32pm Some Guy wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 10:23am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 12:32pm Great interviews with Mick and Keith in today's Chicago Tribune: Mick Jagger interview: 'Exile on Main St.' revisited May 12, 2010 by Greg Kot The latest re-release of the Rolling Stones’ 1972 masterpiece, “Exile on Main St.,” will be available next week, and it’s the most ambitious repackaging yet. It includes a deluxe edition with bonus tracks, a documentary DVD and hard-cover book. It presents the original album intact and sounding better than ever with newly remastered sound. But the liner notes and documentary footage skim the surface of just what went on in Keith Richards’ villa-turned-recording-studio in the south of France during the summer of 1971. More troubling: The 10 previously unreleased tracks – the main reason many Stones aficionados will bother shelling out for this pricey reissue ($29.98 to $179.98) -- shed little new light on the past; instead most of them feature freshly overdubbed vocals by Mick Jagger, a misguided attempt to update an album that needs no updating. I spoke in the last few days with both Jagger and Richards about the reissue. It’s clear that Richards wasn’t heavily involved in the remixes of the previously unreleased “Exile”-era tracks. Instead he proclaimed his allegiance to the sanctity of the 1971 session recordings; the 18 album tracks on the original “Exile” were not remixed, only remastered. But there was some pretty extensive overdubbing done on the disc of 10 previously unreleased “Exile” tracks. Richards said he added acoustic guitar on one track, but Jagger did a whole lot more, laying vocals as well as some guitar and harmonica atop several leftover rhythm tracks. As good as some of these tracks sound – “Plundered my Soul” in particular – it’s not really a representation of what went down in Richards’ sweaty basement in 1971 so much as what technological wonders can be concocted in an air-conditioned Los Angeles studio in 2010. Here’s Jagger’s take on what went down. Q: There must have been a ton of outtakes from those sessions. How come you didn’t release more? A: I went through a lot of stuff but then I started asking questions if it was really from “Exile” or not. And then I had to work out, well, what does that mean? It wasn’t all recorded in one go. I had to define for myself what the “Exile” period was. The first song recorded for “Exile” and eventually used for the album was “Loving Cup.” That was [a demo] in 1969. As far as unreleased things, I tried to avoid songs that had already been heavily bootlegged. I chose alternative takes of some songs, and others not so well known. One of them had some kind of vocals on it, which was “I’m Not Signifying.” The rest had no vocals or words, just [rhythm] tracks. So I wrote melodies and lyrics for those. That was my main thrust. I wasn’t interested in finding take nine of “Tumbling Dice.” I’m sure it’s there, it’s just that I’m not that interested in it personally. So for “So Divine (Aladdin Story),” “Following the River,” “Plundered my Soul,” I started from scratch on vocals. There was nothing in terms of melody or lyrics. The most challenging one was “Following the River,” because the chorus doesn’t go where I would expect it to. I was quite pleased with it in the end. All of the tracks had working titles, some of which I left on, like “Sophia Loren” and “Aladdin Story.” But “Following the River” was originally called “Wally’s Whistling Saw.” I wasn’t going to stick with that title for a romantic ballad. Q: What was about these particular tracks that made you want to finish them as opposed to all the others that must’ve been in that archive? A: Between us -- and Don Was had quite a lot of input -- these tracks were not that heavily bootlegged. They weren’t as well known as others. And these were the ones that sounded most interesting, that felt musically quite diverse. Q: Were the original “Exile” tracks remixed at all? A: The original album hasn’t been touched, except being remastered. It’s been remastered about five times since released originally. Don and I did the remix on the unissued songs in the spirit of “Exile.” We kept it in the feeling of the original, we didn’t employ extra sampling or any sort of new tricks. Q: Were you surprised by anything you found in the “Exile” archives? A: Some were a bit loose, they were unfinished and very raw. But “Plundered my Soul” was very together, no mistakes, no messing about, very arranged, very thought out, obviously very together. The same with “I’m Not Signifying,” we didn’t really have to do anything. Others were a bit more loose, they went on and on, got a bit repetitive, so we had to do a bit of editing. I didn’t do any vocals on the alternate tracks. Keith did a guitar overdub on “So Divine,” he did a bit on that. But most of Keith’s things were all done. I did some acoustic overdubs and I did some harmonica on “I’m not Signifying,” along with the horn line. I did vocals, percussion, acoustic guitar, and a bit of background vocals. Q: During the original sessions, was it tough whittling down to the original 18 tracks. Could it have been longer? A: Probably, but at that time, it was released on vinyl. And short sides on vinyl gave you the best fidelity. That was quite good to have it the way it was set up, to have four sides, in the mastering process you got a better and hotter fidelity the shorter the side was. When you had 30-minutes-plus music on the side of a vinyl record, you lost volume and bass end as the record moved to the center. So we thought 18 tracks was good for a double album, and would give us a good, loud, rocking sound. Q: You’ve never been particularly enthusiastic about “Exile” when you’ve been asked about in subsequent interviews. Why is that? A: I was being slightly annoying because people would always say, “Isn’t that your favorite?” And I would be a bit rebellious, just to annoy people who kept asking me if it was the best Stones record. I don’t have favorite records. I’m more familiar with songs when you put them on a set list for a show. It’s not a period, it’s just a song. And since you don’t play the whole record in a concert, you don’t really hear it as a record. You pick your favorites and find out what works live. For that reason, I don’t have a favorite Stones record. Q: But “Exile” is now routinely cited as the best Stones record. A: And it is a great record. What’s interesting about it is that it has so many sides to it, so many different musical styles, very bluesy, and it has soul, gospel, and the other quirky little bits that perhaps you wouldn’t have put on a record with only 12 songs. You would’ve thrown out stuff maybe like “Just Wanna See his Face,” but on a more sprawling record like this you could afford to let those things go. Which perhaps explain why it wasn’t immediately reviewed as stunningly wonderful. But after a while people get to appreciate the breadth of it. Q: The record didn’t get great reviews at first A: Oh, yeah. You know what reviewers do, they play the first three songs and then review the record. Q: Thanks, man. A: [Laughs] But you know what I mean. You can’t take in 18 tracks in a day. It’s hard. So you get through those four sides, it could take a while to really get the full picture. It’s a lot of stuff to get through. It took a while for the record to be appreciated for what it was. Q: A lot of mythology is attached to the record about the working conditions not being the greatest. A: It wasn’t ideal at the beginning. It took a while to pull the place together. Even a studio that’s brilliant is like that. It takes a while to make it work. There were a lot of teething problems with the studio. We had some experience doing that already. It was a few different rooms. It wasn’t perfect acoustically. We had to work at getting a really good drum sound, which is always the most difficult thing. An acoustic instrument only, that is always the challenge in these places. You want to get a great drum sound, and that was difficult. There were a lot of breakdowns of power. Once it got going. You get used to these surroundings. I think in the end it wasn’t that difficult. Q: Did you do it Keith’s house because you were worried he wouldn’t show up anywhere else? A: No, not really. He rented a house with a lot of room, and there weren’t a lot of studios in that part of the world at the time. We had done previous recording in my house with the same mobile back in England. We did some tracks on “Sticky Fingers,” like “Bitch” and “Moonlight Mile” on the mobile, so it wasn’t a major issue. Q: What was the songwriting like with Keith? Were you collaborating head to head, or bringing your own stuff in? A: There was some stuff from England that we brought, licks and half bits of songs. We had stuff recorded in London like “Shine a Light.” And there were riffs born in that basement, like “Ventilator Blues,” “Rocks Off.” We had bits of everything from everywhere, and then we took it to LA to finish it off. Q: So do you think it’s overstated how big a role that basement played in the way the record came out? A: We recorded a lot of stuff in there, and it was a very important part of the record. How much is complete conjecture. Would it have sounded the same at Sunset Sound? Probably not. The way you record, the people around you, are what gives each record its personality. Q: Was the constant party a distraction? A: We were separate from all that down in the basement. We were cut off from the rest of the house, and people didn’t come down and do a lot of gawking. There wasn’t a peanut gallery, like a regular studio where you could stand in the control room behind glass. There was nowhere to watch from. Once we went to the basement, we were working. They didn’t bother us in the basement much. People get very bored watching people record. Q: Jimmy Miller gets slagged sometimes as the producer for the murky sound. How do you feel about his role? A: I think Jimmy was a good producer. At the beginning of his production work with us he had more authority than the end, to be honest. He was enthusiastic, always good with time signatures, that was a forte of his because he was a drummer. He did have a good attitude to time signatures, which is always useful. I’m very involved in time signatures, because just getting to the groove was important, and he was always good with that. Producing can be all kinds of roles. Help pick the good songs, you might have 25 and you have to tell the writer that something isn’t quite up to snuff, because writers think everything they write is always brilliant. Keith Richards interview: 'Exile on Main St.' revisited May 12, 2010 by Greg Kot Keith Richards talks about the forthcoming reissue of the Rolling Stones’ 1972 masterpiece “Exile on Main St.” Much of the original album was tracked in the basement of the 16-room mansion, Nellcote, that he rented in the south of France during the summer of 1971. Q: How come we didn’t get more unreleased stuff besides the 10 tracks? A: That would be a whole ‘nother album. It’s amazing how much stuff was left behind. It was a very prolific year that year. We went through everything we could find. It was an enormous backlog. This was the best we had. Some of them were like 40-year bells going off. “Wow, we didn’t finish that one?” Q: How did “Plundered my Soul” get left off the original? A: It was difficult. That was why “Exile” became a double album. The record company wanted a single album, but the damn thing had a life of its own. We probably could’ve made it a triple. We tried to make a single, but it became impossible, like cutting babies in half. Q: Did you feel like the band was in a great place musically? A: The vibe was very good. It was a long, hot summer. Not recording in a studio was unique for us, as it was for anybody at the time. Once things got going, it had its own rhythm. With every album you make you go in with that feeling. But maybe that we really were exiles put some extra bite into it. Q: Really? I know you had some tax problems back home, but it wasn’t like you guys were homeless? A: Yeah, I didn’t mind living in the south of France, actually. But it was more of a collective feeling. “Hey, none of us are going home tonight.” That attitude pervaded the mood, and made us get down to work. Q: There’s a lot of mythology about your nocturnal habits, Keith. How big of a party animal were you at Nellcote? A: There were very late nights, for sure. I heard loads of stories too, but that was upstairs, baby, because where I was I didn’t see much debauchery. Yeah, it’s true: There was a continual party going on in the house. But I couldn’t write songs, make a record and debauch at the same time, man. Q: Band members were coming in and out during the sessions. It sounded very casual, bordering on haphazard. A: It was. A lot of those tracks came about with only two or three guys around, as we waited for everyone to show. It would be just me and Mick [Jagger], or me and Charlie [Watts]. An idea would start and you worked on it. It was haphazard. The first few weeks especially, no one quite knew their asses from their [expletive]. But once we got into the swing of things, it was like a bunker down there, and a lot of hard work got done. Q: It was hot, instruments going in and out of tune. That can’t be a good thing for recording. A: Yeah, all true. There was an overcome and adapt spirit about it. But if it was really terrible we wouldn’t have stayed down there that long. Q: Then you went to LA to finish the album. How come? A: We couldn’t do anything more to it in Nellcote. It was a great place for cutting the tracks, but it’s not a place to do vocals or any other overdubs. But the bone and the muscle was done down there in that bunker. Q: Judging by his comments, Mick wasn’t happy with the album when it came out. A: All I can say, as far as Mick’s concerns, I haven’t met a lead vocalist yet who thought his voice was loud enough. But then again, Mick and I and [producer] Jimmy Miller mixed it, I don’t quite get [his complaints]. But I watched him working on this [reissue] and he’s really been digging it, hearing more things than he did at the time. Q: What about the remix of the older material? A: My approach was basically hand’s off, don’t touch. I don’t want to do any fancy, modern ideas on top of a 40-year-old record. My job was to guard the sanctity and purity of the original tracks. But there was some overdubbing of vocals on some of the extra tracks. There was one track where we heard an acoustic guitar, then about one-third of the way through another acoustic guitar because I string must’ve broken, so I overdubbed that. I wouldn’t touch the original tracks with a barge bull. Q: Jimmy Miller was criticized for some of his original production, which some listeners thought was a bit murky. How do you feel about it? A: I very much like what he did with us. I don’t think another guy could’ve pulled it off. He was a great producer, great friend. He had a lot of good ideas, and he was a damn good drummer himself. Q: Did it help that he was musician himself? A: Yeah. It definitely made a difference. He wasn’t just a sound artist. He could play it too. Q: Was Charlie at all threatened by Miller as a drummer? A: Nah! Drummers love each other. They go into immediate conversation about tom toms and paradiddles (laughs). Q: “Exile” is generally perceived as the best Stones album. Do you understand why that is? A: Maybe because it was a double. I couldn’t put my finger on why people like it. It holds up with time. I can still listen to it, and that says something. I enjoyed gong back through it. Going back through the tracks, I could smell that basement and all the dust. It was very evocative. Q: People view it as the quintessential Keith record in the Stones catalog. Do you agree? A: I get it that people would think that from the fact that it was done in my house. But I never thought of those sessions as a different balance between me and the rest of the band. You’re in the middle of it, and your perception of things can be a bit blurred, especially with me. Q: American roots music factored heavily into a lot of the songs. What inspired that? A: It certainly wasn’t conscious. But after all we’d been touring America for six years pretty much constantly. I think “Exile” gave us a chance to pick out the things we heard in America. We do play American music, rock ‘n’ roll and blues. So a lot of things came out from working in America all those years. Within the Stones there are never meetings or a setting out of goals. The band is all about capturing a certain feel, and first you have to find out what that is. When you do, you go to work. Q: How was your relationship as a guitarist different with Mick Taylor than with [his predecessor] Brian Jones? A: Brian and I worked very close together as far as rhythm and leads were concerned. With Mick Taylor, he’s far more of a soloist, and I had to adjust. It was great fun to reinvent the sound of the band, because Mick certainly changed it a lot. He’s a beautiful player and it’s just a matter of finding the new slot. And I enjoyed playing with him. I was really pissed off when he left. Q: Did you write specifically with his guitar playing in mind? A: That goes along with songwriting. When you’re down there doing it, you can put the break into it. What’s beautiful about songwriting is just piddling around on the guitar and there it is, and something appears out of nowhere. The rest is trimming, editing and thinking. The best time is when it comes out of nowhere. That’s when I love it. Q: How did you and Mick write at Nellcote? A: We were trying to keep up with the band. We’d say, we haven’t got a song for tomorrow yet. We were scrambling writing them on the spot. “Happy” came like that one afternoon and several others. “Tumbling Dice,” that came quick. Started as a song called “Good Time Women.” The only difference was that we still didn’t have the lyrics, but it’s the same riff. Q: How did you determine you’d sing “Happy”? A: I did it before Mick arrived that day. He shows up and says, “Wow, great, there’s one I don’t have to do.” Mick joined in on the choruses. That’s what I mean by working quickly. We’d start at 2 and by 5 it’s done. Q: I can’t imagine the record label was happy when you turned in a double album. A: The record company wanted to cut it in half. There was quite a fight in a way, lawyers and blah-blah. The damn thing had a life of its own, insisted on being a double, and Mick and felt strongly about it. We got our way. Q: What’s in the immediate future for the band? A: I don’t know. I’m seeing the guys in a week or so. We’ll probably kick around some ideas then. There’s no road work this year, but maybe we’ll do some sessions. Q: Would you like to make a new record? A: I would, I sure would. When I see the guys, you have to take the temperature of everybody, because everybody’s gotta want to. Chicago Tribune |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 1:01pm Last night's "Lost" parody, "Late". Skit's a little long, so you might want to skip to about halfway through. Mick as Desmond is killer, brutha... www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2010/05/late-episode-6-we-can-do-this "Yeah. Awright. Come on. We can do this!" |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 12th, 2010 at 1:23pm Some Guy wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 12:17pm:
So your going to Plunder the Store? :smilestu |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on May 12th, 2010 at 1:27pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 12th, 2010 at 1:40pm
Great pics - everyone looks so happy and healthy.
Love that pic of Patti and LWren...very cool. Where was Shirley to provide the feminine link to Exile? Its kind of funny though..Patti and LWren are a thousand light years away from Exile and the two woman so strongly associated with the era, Anita and Bianca, are long gone. But not to me. They will always be the muse to the masterpiece, no matter who else comes along. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 12th, 2010 at 1:43pm
I forgot to add: MT being there would have made it sublime.
I guess he's there in spirit....to us, at least. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 12th, 2010 at 2:08pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 2:17pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 12th, 2010 at 2:23pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 1:23pm:
I am paying for it, getting my change, striking a Heisman pose and then shooting out the door! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 12th, 2010 at 2:24pm
Nice ! All covers saved on my HD now ;-)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by rogerriffin on May 12th, 2010 at 4:04pm
Think i´m going mad!!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 12th, 2010 at 4:44pm Gazza wrote on May 12th, 2010 at 9:58am:
Ha, good one Gazza and no shit. Yeah, it's nostalgia and Stones, especially Jagger, rarely look back..... but its a beautiful thing for those of us who have watched this band through the lean years of the last two, three decades.....it's been a long road of ups, downs, dissapointments for a Stones fan, and some of us have watching this drama since puberty ......and to now see them finally, justly glorify Exile once and for all. I imagine Jagger is even impressed with the buzz. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 5:57pm ‘Exile on Main Street’ Remastered: Keith Richards on Hunting a Guitar Thief May 12, 2010 By Jim Fusilli Keith Richards in concert with the Rolling Stones at the England Empire Theatre in Liverpool, England in 1971. Mirrorpix/Courtesy Everett Collection One morning, or more likely, one afternoon, given the length of their late-night recording sessions in 1971, the Rolling Stones’ Keith Richards woke up to find 11 of his guitars had been stolen. “It was awful,” Richards told me. “They’re all my babies.” Most were vintage Fender Telecasters. “They look alike, they sound alike, but they play different.” Richards named his guitars to make it easy for his tech to give him the one he wanted. “Stupid names,” he said with a throaty laugh. “Malcolm. McCawber. You know, ‘Get me McCawber!’” The Stones were at Nellcôte, the 16-room mansion Richards had rented in a Côte d’Azur villa to record what would become “Exile on Main Street,” a remastered version of which, with 10 previously unavailable tracks, will be released on May 18. Nellcôte was filthy with drug users, drug dealers, hangers-on and minor celebrities. Local criminals in the south of France were aware of the all-but-open-door policy at the compound. Back then, Richards carried a gun or a knife when the situation warranted. He also had a temper: Though he held an invitation to Mick Jagger’s ’71 wedding to Bianca Pérez Morena de Macías in Saint Tropez – the only member of the Stones to receive one – the security force tried to turn him away. Richards punched his way into the ceremony. Richards set out to locate his stolen guitars, the thieves likely unaware that he had the serial numbers of Malcolm, McCawber and the rest of his babies. It took years, but he got them back. “Yeah, eventually,” Richards said. “They turned up on the market.” And he found out who had taken them. “I got the sucker who did it. The guy who pulled the job, he got his,” he said with a note of triumph. “I mean, he’s alive, but…” The Wall Street Journal |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 12th, 2010 at 6:07pm
Hadn't heard this story of Keith fiding the guy...although it reminds me of the Tony Sanchez story when Keith gave him money to have the guy who let Anita get arrested in Kingston and then jailed...and raped repeatedly, whacked. Tony said he kept the money.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 12th, 2010 at 9:39pm Exile on Sunset Boulevard Rolling in L.A. with the Stones By Michael Simmons Thursday, May 13 2010 Image Courtesy of: STONES BILLBOARD COPYRIGHT 1972 SUNSET STRIP BILLBOARD BY JOHN VAN HAMERSVELD + POST-FUTURE.COM On May 18, the Rolling Stones' 1972 classic Exile on Main Street will be re-released in three editions: the remastered album, a version with bonus tracks and a superdeluxe set with vinyl, DVD and booklet (rumors of a super-duper-deluxe set complete with hypodermic and burnt spoon remain unconfirmed). Time has justified Exile's mythological standing as a masterpiece of murk, an über-bluesy collection of spooky grooves. Fans know of (and have mythologized) the band's infamous sessions at Nellcôte in the south of France. And while it's true that most of the album's basic tracks were recorded there, where the Stones had been taxed into self-exile, Exile was actually wrapped and mixed right here in Los Angeles. After the French heat got hip to Nellcote's pharmaceutical follies, the Stones fled and arrived in L.A. on November 29, 1971. "L.A. added a whole dimension to Exile's mixing and assembly," recalls Marshall Chess, who, as president of Rolling Stones Records, was privy to the inside. "The sunlight, the drive to work, the way the girls look. L.A.'s got a very strong set." Chess says Mick Jagger was in charge of sessions at Sunset Sound Recorders, still open for business today at the same spot: 6650 Sunset Boulevard, at Cherokee. "We utilized Dr. John and Billy Preston for help. Dr. John got us backup singers. Billy brought that gospel sound to the vocals. They were crucial to the overall sound of the tracks. In some ways they might've been called part-writers. A lot of times it'd be stagnant and Billy Preston would put his shit on it and it would change the riff and texture." Chess remembers "Happy," "Casino Boogie," "Ventilator Blues," "Torn and Frayed" and "Loving Cup" getting extensive overhauls at Sunset Sound. Former Beatles employee Chris O'Dell was personal assistant to the Stones at the time: "Keith [Richards] was going through his usual Keith stuff. They weren't organized in the studio. I remember many nights being there for hours. It felt like it didn't ever click. Maybe that's the way they recorded. I was used to the Beatles and how refined their sessions were." O'Dell leased homes for Jagger, Richards and Mick Taylor in Bel Air, while Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts usually stayed at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. "They were the toast of the town. They got invited to everything that happened," O'Dell recalls. "Mick's a very social person. Always has been." The boys partied with Papa John Phillips and Natalie Wood and visited Ike and Tina Turner's studio in Inglewood. O'Dell's then-boyfriend, former Band road manager and Mean Streets producer Jonathan Taplin, recommended photographer Robert Frank for the album cover and sent Jagger a copy of Frank's heralded photo collection The Americans. Frank was flown in from New York and they all went down to L.A.'s Skid Row on pregentrified Main Street to shoot — hence the album's title. "I just remember how easygoing it was, just walking down the street and people following us and everybody getting high," says O'Dell. "The street people came out and went, 'Heeeyyy, are you Mick fucking Jagger?' He'd laugh and they'd follow us." Frank used a Super-8 movie camera and the Stones stills on Exile's cover are frames from that film. Chess says 1 a.m. business meetings with lawyers were not uncommon, and fondly recounts regular jaunts with Keith to Canter's on Fairfax for strawberry shortcake with real whipped cream. Both he and Keith bought Ferrari Dinos at Hollywood Sports Cars, a legendary dealership that's no longer in business. But there was a dark side too. "After Altamont there were death threats from the Hell's Angels," says Chess. "When we got to L.A., Mick and I bought pistols. I had a .38 hammerless Smith & Wesson. Mick was paranoid about the Angels." But overall, Chess says, L.A. was a positive experience that put the icing on one of the great rock & roll albums of all time. "They were drawn to all things American. The Stones love American music and fit really well in L.A." Bringing it all back to 2010, it's the jones for new music on the bonus tracks that has Stones freaks scratching. Don Was, the Stones' producer since 1993, was brought in last year to mix and oversee overdubs for unfinished outtakes. He recounts his marching orders: "Keith sent me a fax sayin', 'You don't have to make it sound like Exile. It is Exile.'" Was explains what he believes to be the key to Exile's off-kilter sound: "It reminded me of what Miles [Davis] was doin'. There's this apparent looseness to it, but it's holdin' together. The thing that makes [the Stones] great is that they all feel the beat in a little different place. If you listen to the tracks individually, you go, 'This is a mess.' When you put it all together, it creates this looseness, but it still grooves. There's a centrifugal force that holds the band together. With Exile, they pushed the centrifugal force as far out as you can and still have the center hold." LA Weekly |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 13th, 2010 at 2:46am
Regarding a performance by the Stones or a Stone on Friday on Jimmy Fallon, I've heard a lot of conflicting stuff but this interview with the Roots drummer hints at something on Friday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHkVdPZnoTo
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 13th, 2010 at 3:01am
By the way, you can pre-order the Stones In Exile DVD on Amazon here:
http://www.amazon.com/Stones-Exile-Rolling/dp/B003GCMX5Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1273737625&sr=1-1 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 13th, 2010 at 4:50am
Don't know if this has been posted before:
The Rolling Stones had a Number One album and a few legal snafus under their belt when they fled England in search of a proper spot to record in 1971. Where they landed (the South of France) and what they did there (channeled notorious debauchery into some of the best work of their career) would become the stuff of rock & roll legend. It became Exile on Main Street. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards look back on making their gritty 1972 masterpiece — which is due May 18th as a reissue featuring 10 outtakes — in the new issue of Rolling Stone, on sale at newsstands now and available to All Access subscribers today (May 12th). In new interviews, Richards transports writer David Gates back to the filthy basement of Nellcôte, admitting, "It wasn't a great environment for, like, breathing. It was very Hitleresque — the last days of Berlin sort of thing." Sessions were stymied by electrical outages, Jagger's then-wife's labor pains and the fact that Richards was working on a different internal clock ("It's not me being arrogant or anything. It's just that I was asleep," he says.) Look back at all of the Stones' appearance on the cover of Rolling Stone. But beyond the myth of Exile is the music: Richards recalls loving working with guitarist Mick Taylor, telling RS, "Mick Taylor was such a virtuoso, and I was just very raw … if I had my way, he's still be in the band." Jagger says, "I think it's kind of sprawling, so that you can always find other little nugget things that you haven't heard," musing on the record's incredible endurance. The frontman goes on to explain the process of dusting off found tracks for the reissue and how he really remembers those epic sessions today. Get the full story in our new issue now, and revisit the best of our Rolling Stones coverage in the RS archives: • Mick Jagger's First-Ever Rolling Stone Interview • The Stones in L.A.: Main Street Exiles • On the Road With the Rolling Stones: Inside the Band's 1975 Tour of the South • Torn and Frayed: Photos From the Making of Exile on Main Street Link: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/;kw=[13193,150056] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by RSRTG on May 13th, 2010 at 5:25am
I'm sooooo looking forward to all the exile stuff. There has been some fantastic pics that have been posted and I thank those responsible.........I cant help thinking something bigger maybe brewing.....but where was ronnie??
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 13th, 2010 at 7:26am
Robert Pierre's radio interivew will air Monday at 10 pm. Details below:
http://www.wmmr.com/events/Details.aspx?ID=156685 Mr Pierre with "the boys". I presume these were taken in NYC within the past couple of days! I'm in Stones heaven these days!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by charlotte on May 13th, 2010 at 7:34am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 7:57am Thanks for the pics, LJ. Pierre Robert did that interview yesterday. Looking forward to it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 13th, 2010 at 8:01am
one question i don''t think has been asked much less answered: who came up with the title EOMS?
i presume it was either mick or keith -marshall chess 'perhaps/maybe?? nowadays i think of sinclair lewis especially given robert frank's contribution |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 13th, 2010 at 8:51am
Two more upcoming interviews & documentaries.
Sunday 16 May 2.00-4.00pm BBC 6 MUSIC One of the most seminal rock 'n' roll albums of all time, The Rolling Stones's Exile On Main Street, gets a reissue this year accompanied by 10 unearthed tracks. In the biggest interview of his radio career, Huey Morgan hangs out with his hero, one of the most famous men in rock, Mick Jagger. Huey quizzes Mick about the making of the album which, in his eyes, defined them as a band. What was that long hot summer of 1971 like, living in tax exile in the South of France, recording in Keith Richard's infamous rented mansion, Villa Nellcote? From Rip This Joint to Tumbling Dice, Torn And Frayed and All Down The Line – how did the songs come about and how were they recorded in that sweltering basement, once a former residence of the Nazis? Mick has been occasionally dismissive of the album which had a lukewarm reception when it came out, but has gone on to be hailed as a masterpiece. How does he feel about it now? As well as picking apart the record Huey finds out about the new cuts and talks about Stones In Exile, a new documentary to be aired on the BBC about the making of the record. He also asks about upcoming plans for the band – when will they be back out on the road? Rolling Stones fans can also hear BBC Radio 2's documentary on the making of Exile On Main Street, Exile Of The Stones, on Radio 2 on Wednesday 19 May at 10pm Maybe someone can post a list of all the Stones interviews/specials scheduled to broadcast in the next week or two. Getting very hard to keep track! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 13th, 2010 at 8:56am Thanks to Ted from the Steve Hoffman forums who sent me this link to his blog review of the Exile reissue : http://myvinylreview.blogspot.com/2010/05/exclusive-sneak-preview-rolling-stones.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 10:02am ‘Exile on Main Street’ Remastered: Mick Jagger on Touring May 13, 2010 By Jim Fusilli Mick Jagger in concert with the Rolling Stones in 1971 at Newcastle City Hall. The Stones have released a remastered version of “Exile on Main Street” from that same period. Mirrorpix/Courtesy Everett Collection To mark the release of the new, expanded “Exile on Main Street,” the Rolling Stones briefly considered a tour during which they’d play the entire album. “The idea to play ‘Exile’ in its entirety struck me as interesting,” Mick Jagger said. “Sort of like what if Beethoven had his Ninth Symphony, but didn’t bother to play it.” Jagger was aware other veteran rock artists had taken to the road to perform their classic albums. “People were doing it,” he said. “Van Morrison, Brian Wilson.” Morrison performed his ‘68 album “Astral Weeks” in 2008 and ‘09. In recent years, Wilson played the Beach Boys’ album “Pet Sound” and his own “Smile.” Though Jagger found the idea intriguing, he wasn’t sure a vast audience would. “Some people might think it’s great,” he said. “Others would be bored to death.” Almost immediately, Jagger saw problems. “How do you book it? We’re playing one album only? In order?” Discarding the alternate versions of three “Exile” songs and a snippet of a jam that appear on the new package, that would leave 24 songs totaling about 90 minutes to perform – not quite enough for a standard Rolling Stones show. “You’d have to play some other material,” Jagger allowed. Which Morrison and Wilson both did in their shows. As strong an album as “Exile” is, it has its weak spots. Some of the performances would be difficult to reproduce on stage. Not technically – just about any sound you make in the studio can be recreated – but some “Exile” cuts hang on the overarching dark insouciance of the album, some of which was recorded in a dank basement in the south of France. Tracks like “Casino Boogie,” “Sweet Black Angel,” “Torn & Frayed” would work best in a club rather than an arena. Jagger wondered what Stones fans would expect next. “Are you going to play ‘Sticky Fingers’ and “Let it Bleed’?” he asked rhetorically. In the end, Jagger and the band decided against an “Exile” tour. “The thing is,” he said, “we’ve done quite a lot of those numbers live.” Which suggests, when the Stones next tour, “Exile on Main Street” once again will be well represented. The Wall Street Journal |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 13th, 2010 at 10:08am
More thoughts from other artists at NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126743273 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 10:17am NPR's also streaming three of the new tracks (plus 'Plundered My Soul')... 8-) 'Dancing In The Light' 'So Divine (Aladdin Story)' 'Loving Cup (Alternate Version)' |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 13th, 2010 at 10:39am
FYI, if there are still any doubters about Taylor recording a new part for "Plundered My Soul":
http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1242652 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 13th, 2010 at 10:42am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:17am:
:booze |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 13th, 2010 at 10:51am
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WORK????
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 10:59am Mel Belli wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:39am:
Mick confirms that in his Dutch TV interview, too. Great interview, btw. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 13th, 2010 at 11:00am LadyJane wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Do what I did. Take a half day. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on May 13th, 2010 at 11:13am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:17am:
Thanks so much for this! I think I hear a recent Keith guitar overdub in so divine. :wtf1 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 11:21am Yep. Mick mentions that in the Dutch TV interview. Said that's the only song Keef overdubbed. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on May 13th, 2010 at 11:26am
That version of Loving cup really, really rocks!
EDIT: Mick's vocals on So divine sound new too. God they haven't released stuff groovy as this in decades. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 13th, 2010 at 11:45am
God, I love So Divine.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 13th, 2010 at 12:50pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:17am:
Wow these tunes ROCK ! Even "So Divine", Mick really did a great job with it as it was rather repetitive/boring as an outtake. I hear some recent Keith lead overdubs on that. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 13th, 2010 at 1:02pm LadyJane wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Some of us have been on annual leave, bored out of their fuckin' nuts - well, no more! :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 13th, 2010 at 1:16pm gotdablouse wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 12:50pm:
Yep, me too! That's definitely a fresh overdub by the riffmaster there on So Divine. He's obvsiously still digging his ES355! :keithpunky |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on May 13th, 2010 at 1:20pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:17am:
Well suck me dry and call me Dusty. That's some five star shit. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 13th, 2010 at 1:33pm
Nice expression, will make a note of it !
Notnew but let's not forget PMS http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=126743273&m=126744825 for a four song blast ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on May 13th, 2010 at 1:46pm
Not sure if its been verified but sounds to me like Mick redid the vocals on all the new songs he sings on, kind of defeats the purpose of releasing archive material if your going to spruce it up and redo everything, but whatever, it's still some of the best shit they've released in decades
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 13th, 2010 at 1:53pm
Yes, this is now an accepted fact, couldn't be avoided as there were no vox in the first place and he sings damn well for a guy who's pushing 70 !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 13th, 2010 at 1:53pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 1:46pm:
IMO, it's obvsious which tracks he has added new vocals too: those in which he sounds as if he's hamming it up. So Divine, Plundered My Soul and Follow The River, to name but 3. I'm struggling a little with Dancing In The Light, though. Can't decide if it's '72 or '09 Mick Jagger. Loving Cup and Good Time Woman are certainly the original vocals. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 13th, 2010 at 2:03pm
Sky News just showed a commercial for the upcoming Exile reissue. First time I've seen one!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 13th, 2010 at 2:19pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:17am:
how do you say, i love you, to a post? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 13th, 2010 at 2:34pm Honky Tonk Man wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 1:53pm:
Dancing in the Light and Pass the Wine each feature new vocal tracks. LC, GTW, and I Ain't Signifying are old... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 13th, 2010 at 3:21pm LadyJane wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Try listening to these tracks with a 20-something chatterbox intern sitting next to you... When PMS was posted for the first time, she would not shut the fuck up! I wanted to plunder her voice box. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on May 13th, 2010 at 3:37pm
IDK if it's been mentioned, but I thought I was listening to Paint It Black at the beginning of "So Divine"! ;D
Great stuff nonetheless. Thanks Left Shoe and others who have posted useful links |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 13th, 2010 at 3:42pm
[quote author=Honky Tonk Man]
IMO, it's obvsious which tracks he has added new vocals too: those in which he sounds as if he's hamming it up. So Divine, Plundered My Soul and Follow The River, to name but 3. I'm struggling a little with Dancing In The Light, though. Can't decide if it's '72 or '09 Mick Jagger. Loving Cup and Good Time Woman are certainly the original vocals. [/quote] I was having the same questions about Dancing in the Light too.... I kind of sounds like Mick now, but then it doesn't.....I'm leaning toward it being a new vocal....because it doesn't have the gruffness of a young Jagger. I had that version of Loving Cup and always loved it. Listening to his voice in that song makes the new vocals glaringly obvious. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by kleermaker on May 13th, 2010 at 3:44pm Mel Belli wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 2:34pm:
I'm Not Signifying is not the same track as I Ain't Signifying. It's another version of the same song. Starting with NH's piano and Jagger and then ... I don't know. MT plays some guitar (Keith not credited), but it seems not so good as his licks on the well known bootleg version. I'm curious if anyone already has heard this I'm Not Signifying version totally and what their opinion is (especially if there's some good bluesguitar in it, like on the boots). |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 4:14pm The Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street Few records by anyone, let alone the Stones, come with more myth attached to them than the Stones’ narcotically abetted tenth album May 14, 2010 Peter Paphides If Mick Jagger’s verdict on 1972’s Exile on Main Street — “It’s overrated, to be honest” — tells us anything, it’s that sometimes the people least well placed to appraise a record’s virtues are the musicians who made it. In recent years there has been a trickle of remastered Stones albums. But few records by anyone, let alone the Stones, come with a greater myth attached to them than the Stones’ narcotically abetted tenth album. For all that, however, it’s not as if you can’t see what Jagger was getting at. Johnny Marr once couched the same sentiments in more complimentary terms when he said that “the power of what [the Rolling Stones] were doing was about the spirit and the vibe rather than the composition”. For the measure of Marr’s point, you need look no farther than Rocks Off, Rip This Joint and the fantastically falling-apart lead single Tumbling Dice on side one of the original vinyl release. Even if you didn’t know that these clattering bar-room rockers were recorded in the damp basement of Keith Richards’s Villefranche-sur-Mer retreat, you could hazard an educated guess. A horn section that packs all the sonic punch of a comb and tissue paper may account for Jagger’s reluctance to use Richard’s basement in the first place. But the pleasures of Exile are cumulative. At the time Jagger urged that its four sides were best enjoyed in separate bursts. Forego the CD remaster for the vinyl companion and you’ll find that he’s right. The influence of the renegade country star Gram Parsons is palpable on the songs that comprise the second side of Exile on Main Street. Jim Price’s wild mercury organ flourishes on Torn & Frayed and the slow-build country gospel of Loving Cup capture the Stones puréeing their inspirations with the sort of oblivious abandon that has invariably sounded cringeworthy when other groups — hello, Primal Scream — have tried it. What follows is, by anyone’s criteria, some of the uneasiest listening to be found on a Stones album. Richards’s contention that Jagger reserves his most soulful expression for his harmonica is borne out by his demonic playing on Turd on the Run. On the skeletal blues-rattle of the I Just Want to See His Face, nothing bearing the Stones imprint has ever sounded quite so pregnant with the spook. Claim that it’s all that good and you run the risk of inflating the myth to bursting point. Exile’s flaws are no more apparent than on a final side reliant on generic blues workouts such as Stop Breaking Down and All Down the Line. At the same time, what would you have the temerity to remove? Or in view of the extra disc now bolted on to the original set, the question becomes: what would you add? Good Time Women eliminates itself because it’s Tumbling Dice minus the woozy uplift of its later incarnation; ditto So Divine (Aladdin Story) for a guitar motif that sails too closely to Paint it Black. Plundered My Soul and the panoramic Following the River — both with new Jagger vocals — leave you feeling that, whatever album they belong to, it isn’t this one. Jagger may have a point about some of the original album’s failings. But at this point, it’s hard not to recall Paul McCartney’s rejoinder when asked if the White Album would have made a better single record. “Look, it’s the bloody Beatles’ White Album — shut up!” If Jagger excuses the impudence, the album may be different, but exactly the same rationale applies. The Times |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on May 13th, 2010 at 4:54pm
I think the biggest surprise on disk 2 is that last track "title 5", thats some crazy ass 60's garage/surf rock, sounds like something from Little Steven's show. I don't think I've ever heard the Stones do anything like that before, are they sure that's them?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 13th, 2010 at 4:58pm
for those who can't wait, the real deal in flac, may be on demonoid...
not sure if it is bogus or not.... I remember there was a fake Bigger Bang being torrented before the street date.... I won't post the link... just an FYI, for those who care... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 13th, 2010 at 5:07pm 'Following The River' video premieres 12am GMT Saturday @ www.rollingstones.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 13th, 2010 at 5:30pm
THE AUSTRALIAN
Venetta Fields embraces Exile on Main Street session legacy Iain Shedden, Music writer From: The Australian May 13, 2010 THE recording session was at midnight, not every backing singer's favourite start time, but Venetta Fields needed the money to buy a new coat. In the morning the 30-year-old American with the big gospel voice emerged from the Los Angeles studio having made her imprint on one of the greatest rock albums in history, The Rolling Stones' Exile on Main Street. It didn't mean much to her at the time, late in 1971. “I was more interested in the coat than I was in the Rolling Stones,” the veteran singer said at her home on Queensland's Gold Coast. Tomorrow sees the release of a digitally remastered edition of Exile on Main Street, exactly 38 years since the original album was issued. It features 10 tracks that didn't make it onto the original version. Fields and her colleague Clydie King sing on four songs from the original work, including the hit single Tumbling Dice, along with I Just Want To See His Face, Let It Loose and Shine A Light. “They were wonderful songs and they were just right for us,” Fields said. “We knew gospel. That's what most people wanted from us, a gospel sound.” Fields, who moved to Australia in 1982, was already a much sought-after session vocalist when she got the call to do the Stones' tracks. Pink Floyd, Humble Pie, Steely Dan, the Doors and Alice Cooper are just some of the rock acts Fields worked with in the 60s and 70s. Her early career included a five-year stint in the Ikettes, Ike and Tina Turner's backing singers. Fields started a new life in Australia after touring here with American singer Boz Scaggs. By then she had tired of being just a backing singer at home. “I had all that experience and a good reputation but I felt like I was stuck in a stereotyped box,” she said. “I needed to do something else and I had to get away to somewhere where I could start again.” Since then Fields has moved centre stage as a gospel singer and star of musical theatre, but she continued to work with other artists in her previous role, including John Farnham, Jimmy Barnes and Richard Clapton. She retired from touring with overseas stars after Barbra Streisand's Australian tour in 2000. Now Fields is a respected vocal coach. “It's only when you look back that you realise the legacy you were creating,” she said. “I realise how much Exile On Main Street means now, but at the time it was just another session.” |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 13th, 2010 at 8:31pm
just listened to the bonus disc... i need to change my pants... will post more later... i'm going to make love to my wife now!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Kilroy on May 13th, 2010 at 9:55pm
This is going to be great................I want my copy now but alas it comes to me Tuesday.
When was the original release? I do remember getting my first copy on a Saturday but that's cause, that was the day I could get to the big city and buy a copy. :wow |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 13th, 2010 at 10:50pm
The outtakes are good.
Interesting take on the remastering. I compared it to the Virgin 94 and the Japanese 2005 issue. The '05 version is louder. The new one has a nice sheen to it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 13th, 2010 at 11:35pm buddhabone wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 10:50pm:
who did the 2005 Japan mastering? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by andrews27 on May 13th, 2010 at 11:48pm
"Thank God, Jimmy Miller's got a new record out..."
:kissmyass ...is what Stu would say. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 13th, 2010 at 11:49pm
It's a mystery to me...it's louder, but lacking dynamics.
I'm digging the new remaster. Not over powering at all. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 14th, 2010 at 4:38am
i got dat Exile ! :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey
and loving it :wow the boys are back and killing it ! :retarded :retarded :retarded :retarded :retarded |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 14th, 2010 at 5:14am
that Soul Survivor Alternate Take is just sublime.
Keith on FIRE lovely stuff :wtf1 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 14th, 2010 at 6:57am http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8681410.stm Sir Mick Jagger goes back to Exile Forty years ago, the Rolling Stones decamped to the South of France, living as tax exiles as they recorded their tenth album. The sessions became notorious for their bacchanalian excesses, taking place amidst a nine-month, non-stop cocktail party in a sprawling villa that had supposedly once been a headquarters for the Gestapo. The result was a sprawling double album, Exile On Main Street, which has gone down in history as one of the band's best. Next week, they are re-releasing the record with 10 new tracks - including several recently rediscovered songs. An accompanying documentary, Stones In Exile, will premiere in Cannes, before screening on BBC One on Sunday, 23 May. Frontman Sir Mick Jagger met up with BBC arts editor Will Gompertz to explain why the band had gone back to the archives - and whether the band would ever get back together. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The new tracks on Exile On Main Street have been promoted as "recently rediscovered". How lost were they? Well, they weren't really lost. It was just no-one had really looked at them. There wasn't a bag at the bottom of someone's drawer. The patchwork album cover was created by photographer Robert Frank Where were they? They were in our tape store, mouldering away. Tapes don't have a very good shelf life - so you bake them in the oven, get them out, play them and transfer them to somewhere else. And then the process started of listening to them and going, "that's really a good one". What sort of state were the songs in? They were mostly instrumental tracks with no vocals on them. They didn't have vocals, they didn't have melodies... because I wasn't there. I was playing maracas or I was playing harmonica or something. But some of [them] were complete. There's a track called I'm Not Signifying and all I did was play harmonica on it. It's quite an early track. It sounds early. It could fit onto the Beggars' Banquet album. It might have been recorded for Beggars, but it was definitely re-recorded in the [Exile] period. A lot of these songs were done more than once. Did you put them to one side because you didn't like them at the time? We had so many tracks, and you can only do so much. You'd say, "we'll save that one, or put it aside" not knowing that we'd put it aside for 40 years! So I just found some of these ones and finished them off - I wrote the words and the lyrics. Would you describe these records as new ones or old ones? They're both, really. [Record producer] Don Was, who's a real Stones aficionado, said, "you've got to do them in the mood of Exile". We had tremendous arguments late at night about whether that was correct, artistically. Work on the album started in 1969, when Jagger was dating Marianne Faithfull How do you get yourself back into the mood you had in 1971? By listening to Exile, of course! But it's not particularly difficult, technically. It's just an attitude in your head when you're singing. Don Was said that in those days there wasn't a tremendous amount of subtlety. You just started and then, wham, barraged on 'til you finished. But what about writing the lyrics now, as opposed to where your head was then? Now that's a different thing. Of course it's totally different. But you can put your head in a "mood". That's what any writing is like. You've got to be able to. People say, "is a song written from your own experience?" The answer is "of course it isn't!" Bits of it are your experience, bits of things you've learnt off other people, bits you've nicked from other people's lives, and bits you read in a newspaper. And all this goes to make a song, a novel or a play. And so with all this, you're playing a part. And in a way, I suppose, I was playing the part of myself in 1971. How accurate is the mythology surrounding the recording of Exile On Main Street? The wild nights, the orgies, the drug taking! I remember it well. Every bit of it! I mean, it was a lot of fun - but there were a few bumps. It was a bumpy period, historically. There was a war going on, the Nixon thing was happening. Tax was through the roof. It was very difficult. The end of the '60s felt very strained. But despite all the excesses, it was quite a creative period. When you're quite young, you can get away with that. What was the environment like down at the house? I think it was quite simple, really. The basement was for work, and nobody came in there who wasn't working. Upstairs was quite a lot of socialising and carrying on. All day. It was great fun and it got a bit out of hand, and then we left. It felt like forever, but actually it was only six or seven months. How much did the environment contribute to the album? It was very social, we had a lot of children. They weren't singing on the record, but there was quite a family thing. If you record in that atmosphere, you're going to get a different kind of record. It's almost impossible to quantify how that is, but you just are going to get a different record. Every endeavour is influenced by its environment. How was your relationship with Keith at that time? This was his house… It was his rented house! He rented it for a year and he never went back! The Stones' Bigger Bang tour earned $558m - the highest-grossing tour ever What was the hardest point in those years? It was really problematic getting into the United States. It was massively difficult. The uncertainty of knowing whether you could go to America to tour was one of the major uncertainties of that period. Things have obviously changed a great deal since those sessions. What's your feeling on technology and music? Technology and music have been together since the beginning of recording. I'm talking about the internet. But that's just one facet of the technology of music. Music has been aligned with technology for a long time. The model of records and record selling is a very complex subject and quite boring, to be honest. But your view is valid because you have a huge catalogue, which is worth a lot of money, and you've been in the business a long time, so you have perspective. Well, it's all changed in the last couple of years. We've gone through a period where everyone downloaded everything for nothing and we've gone into a grey period it's much easier to pay for things - assuming you've got any money. Are you quite relaxed about it? I am quite relaxed about it. But, you know, it is a massive change and it does alter the fact that people don't make as much money out of records. But I have a take on that - people only made money out of records for a very, very small time. When The Rolling Stones started out, we didn't make any money out of records because record companies wouldn't pay you! They didn't pay anyone! Then, there was a small period from 1970 to 1997, where people did get paid, and they got paid very handsomely and everyone made money. But now that period has gone. So if you look at the history of recorded music from 1900 to now, there was a 25 year period where artists did very well, but the rest of the time they didn't. What about the future. Are you going to get back together and write more music? I think that would be a very good idea. I've been writing quite a lot of music. Is Keith keen to get the guitar out? I'm sure he is. And I'll be seeing him next week, so I'm sure we'll get together and start doing that. The expanded edition of Exile On Main Street is released on Monday, 17 May. Stones In Exile will be shown on BBC One on Sunday, 23 May. Click here for video interview (5 mins) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8681410.stm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 14th, 2010 at 7:25am
Mick was interviewed on the 'Today Show' on BBC Radio 4 this morning.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qj9z The show is 3 hours long. Mick is interviewed from around the 2 hrs 40 mins mark. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Susy Creamcheese on May 14th, 2010 at 8:33am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 13th, 2010 at 5:07pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 14th, 2010 at 8:36am The Rolling Stones bring 'Exile' back home for new fans By Dominique Tarle Main Street, French Riviera, 1971: Mick Jagger, left, and Keith Richards at work on the Rolling Stones' double album Exile on Main Street By Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY When the Rolling Stones crafted Exile on Main Street, "we were hunkered down in an improvised bunker in a foreign country with a truck as a control room," Keith Richards says with a gruff laugh. "It was basically a last stand." And a lasting one. Exile, a 1972 landmark considered a creative peak by a band on a hot streak, returns to stores Tuesday to launch a catalog reissue campaign. Recorded mostly in France, the British group's fabled double album arrived on the heels of milestones Let It Bleed in 1969 and Sticky Fingers in 1971. Exile's murky, rhythmic thicket of seductive rock, blues, soul, gospel and country rejected '60s flower power and set the stage for '70s excess and decadence, encapsulating the turmoil of a generation while embodying a masterful density that would transcend the times. "You hear the upheaval," Mick Jagger, 66, says of the sonic Polaroid captured in Exile's grooves. "The Vietnam War was going on. It was a fraught period and joyful in other ways, a time of change and turbulence and excitement in a lot of people's lives. It was very up and down, not just hype." Multiple formats to choose from The remastered set is available in multiple forms: a single CD, download or double vinyl with the original songs; a double CD or download, adding 10 previously unreleased tracks; and a $160 super deluxe edition that throws in the vinyl version, a hardbound book, postcards and a DVD including footage of Stones in Exile (a Stephen Kijak documentary about the making of the album, which arrives in stores June 22). Signed limited-edition box sets are priced $2,000 to $2,500. In addition to Good Time Women (an early version of Tumbling Dice) and alternate takes of Soul Survivor and Loving Cup, the bonus cuts include newly unearthed tunes Plundered My Soul, Dancing in the Light, Following the River, I'm Not Signifying, Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren), So Divine (Aladdin Story) and brief instrumental jam Title 5. "At first we weren't aware there was anything left over, but there always is," says Richards, 66, who lobbied for light tweaking. "On one track with acoustic guitar, you hear a string break. I filled that gap. I wanted to keep it as much in place, in that era, as possible." Varying amounts of guitar, vocals and percussion sealed other cracks, with results seamless enough to fool Jagger's friends. The additions "are in the style of Exile and quite believable," he says. "Not that I was trying to fib about it, but when I played it for people and they said, 'Oh, you found it like that?,' I said, 'Uh, yeah, yeah.' It was a bit strange finishing songs 40 years later." Bare-boned piano ballad River required lyrics and vocals. Both Jagger and former guitarist Mick Taylor made fresh contributions to the caustic midtempo Plundered. "We were not on the original," Jagger says. "Obviously, we were off in a bar somewhere when it was recorded. I asked (Taylor) to come back and do overdubs. It really makes the track complete." After recording at Jagger's country estate and Olympic Studios in London, the band fled England to avoid crippling income taxes, and Jagger and Richards spent a month roaming the French Riviera in search of a proper studio. 'People love drug stories' "We went around Nice, Cannes, Marseilles, uh-uh, we couldn't find one," Richards says. "Suddenly, it was my basement. Fine with me. I didn't have to leave home to go to work." With a state-of-the-art mobile recording truck parked outside, the band set up at Nellcôte, his rented seaside villa near Nice, in mid-1971. "The history of the joint is a little murky," says Richards, theorizing it housed Nazi officers during World War II. "There were certain swastika things going up the staircase." The basement, so humid that instruments went out of tune in the course of a single song, both hampered and enhanced Exile's ramshackle brilliance. Nellcôte "had a certain denseness that imprinted itself on the record," Richards says. "It had a sound you couldn't ignore. The bulk of the tracks were cut in the basement, but it was fun to get above ground and finish recording in Los Angeles." Three countries, expanding content and a revolving door of guests that included Dr. John, Billy Preston, Bobby Keys and Nicky Hopkins lend Exile a chaotic feel. It's mythologized as the band's drug-fueled effort. "Which one wasn't?" Richard cracks. "That's a little overplayed. And the debauchery as well." Chemical consumption aside, "the songs are not into that stuff at all," Jagger says. "People love drug stories, especially from that period." After the Stones wrapped up Exile sessions, Atlantic balked at releasing a double album and demanded pruning. "We had a big fight," Richards recalls. "We were in a position to insist, so we did. A single album probably would have sold better initially, as the record company quite rightly expected." Reviews ranged from positive to scornful, with Rolling Stone's Lenny Kaye finding the band "missing the mark ... the great Stones album of their mature period is yet to come." Critics missed the mark, history suggests, since Exile has steadily gained stature over the decades. "Critics are always proved wrong, even if they said it was the best," says Richards, who doesn't join the consensus that declares Exile the band's finest work. "Whoa! That's a hard one. If I had to put the babies against the wall and shoot one, I couldn't." Listeners needed time "to catch on," Jagger says. "When it came out, it was on two LPs, so it had four sides. It took people a while to discover. The reaction the first week was a letdown. But here we are, almost 40 years later, and people like it." There's also a companion piece that talks about what's ahead... Just waiting on Mick Jagger Five years after A Bigger Bang, fans are starting to wonder when the next Rolling Stones studio album will surface. "I'm trying to find out myself," Keith Richards says. "I sent a note to (drummer) Charlie Watts saying, 'Should I put an ad in a music magazine: guitar player for hire?' I've got to do something." The holdup? Richards is waiting on a friend. Until Mick Jagger signs on, the Stones are in limbo. "It doesn't matter which band, you've got to have the frontman wanting to do it," Richards says. "You can't shove the lead singer into it. I learned that many years ago. I usually wait for Mick to call me. When he does, it's because he's got an itch and wants to go to work." Jagger hedges on a specific timetable but allows, "I've been writing a lot of stuff. I'm definitely in the mood." Richards isn't sitting by the phone. He'll return as the father of Captain Jack Sparrow, played by Johnny Depp, in the fourth installment of Pirates of the Caribbean, On Stranger Tides, which starts shooting in June. Rumors persist that there's also a buccaneer role for Jagger. "I think it's just talk," Jagger demurs. "We'll see. I won't be swabbing the decks." Depp is also directing a documentary on the iconic guitarist, and "I'm happily involved," Richards says. Richards' autobiography Life arrives Oct. 26 from Little, Brown, with writing assistance from White Mischief author James Fox, a close friend. "I thought, maybe it's the right time," Richards says. "We can leave out some of the naughty bits." On the music front, Richards has recorded with Jack White in Nashville and recently contacted members of his solo enterprise, the X-Pensive Winos. "There's nothing definite," he says about a reunion. "I work all over the place, and I like to keep my hand in. Have guitar, will travel. Working with the right cats, it's never work. You don't work a guitar. You play it." USA Today |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 14th, 2010 at 8:46am Keith Richards: 'I'm probably more aligned to Lucifer and the dark side' Stories surrounding The Rolling Stones' Exile on Main St have become the stuff of rock legend. As the 1972 classic is reissued, Keith Richards separates fact from fiction with Pierre Perrone Friday, 14 May 2010 REUTERS/Robert Galbraith Keith Richards with the Rolling Stones at the Hollywood Bowl in 2005 When Keith Richards announced he was going to write his autobiography three years ago, most people didn't believe the Rolling Stones guitarist could remember enough to justify the $5m fee. Yet, here he is telling me it will be published this October. "I'm waiting for some proofs to come back. It's kind of weird reading about your own life. Who'd be interested in that?" he laughs, sounding not unlike Jack Sparrow, as portrayed by his friend Johnny Depp in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. "But then, I realise there is a lot of interest, so... Talking to some of the people that were there and their version of events to try and correlate it all was very interesting, a kind of kaleidoscopic bunch of experiences," he says. He's left his home in Weston, Connecticut, an hour's drive from New York, something he often does with his wife, Patti Hansen, to visit their two daughters. Now he's at the Mercer Hotel, a luxury establishment in New York. No one bats an eyelid when he lights up. The old devil. Ostensibly, we're supposed to discuss the remastered, expanded version of the Stones' masterwork Exile on Main St, the album whose genesis in the basement of Nellcôte, the villa Richards rented in Villefranche-sur-Mer, on the French Riviera, in 1971, has become a cornerstone of the Keef legend. But he's as happy recalling the four years he used Switzerland as a base during the Seventies – "Switzerland was about the only country that would accept me at the time, so I'm always very grateful to the Swiss. I actually learned to ski, which was an amazing sight, believe me, to see Keith Richards ski!" – or enthusing about Jamaica, where the group recorded Goats Head Soup, the follow-up to Exile. "I have very strong roots in Jamaica. I love the joint, I love the people, even though they're crazy. Takes one to know one." Whatever the era, and the fact that he looks older than 66, as if every line on his face and every vein on his arms and hands could tell a story, his recollections are sharp and give the lie to doubters who say he has not been the same since April 2006, when he fell from a tree in Fiji and had to undergo surgery in New Zealand. That accident added yet another chapter to the already hefty tome of Stones lore, one that Richards has contributed to over the last 45 years, blurring the line between truth and fiction for his own amusement as much as to help cover his tracks. "Someone asked me how I managed to clean up. I was sick of answering that question so I told him I went to Switzerland and had my blood changed. I was just fooling around. That's all it was, a joke." Exile, the quintessential Stones album and favourite of hardcore fans, is so close to his heart, though, he won't tell fibs about it. So how did the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world end up on the Côte d'Azur in 1971? "The full weight of the British establishment came down on us. First they thought they could get us with the dope busts and it did not work," states Richards, referring to the police finding minute amounts of cannabis resin, Italian prescription pep pills in Mick Jagger's coat and Marianne Faithfull naked in a rug, at his Redlands property in Sussex in February 1967, and the subsequent trial and prison sentence (his conviction was overturned for lack of evidence). "Then they put the financial screws on us," he continues, hinting at the parlous state of the band's finances after a costly split from Allen Klein, their notorious American manager, and the punitive tax bracket their high incomes put them in. "There was a feeling in the air that we'd reached a schism, a breaking point with certain people, Klein included. To keep the band going, we had to leave England. There was a lot of determination that we could do what we do anywhere. France was convenient," he explains. "We figured that either in Cannes, Nice or Marseilles, maybe we could find a studio that we liked. After that fell through, everyone looked at me. I thought: 'I know what they want, they want my basement.' That's how I ended up living on top of the factory." The factory, or "old Nellcôte" as the guitarist fondly remembers it, "was a fantastic place upstairs. The basement was another story. It hadn't been used for years. It was ugly and dark and damp. It was funky, I'll give you that," he laughs. "I don't think we really bothered to clean it up much. We just kind of moved in. It was a great room to work. It was a little crazy, a bit of an experiment because we'd never recorded outside of a studio before." They had used the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio to capture their farewell-to-the-UK dates in March 1971 and to cut demos at Stargroves, Jagger's country pile in Berkshire, but it really proved useful when parked on the French Riviera. "Having the truck made it possible. The thing actually worked," stresses Richards. "We were amazed. It was a lovely machine, for its time. You'd do a few takes, and then everybody would stamp up the stairs, get in the truck and have a listen. It was a pretty unique way of making a record. There was something about the rhythm section sound down there – maybe it was the concrete, or maybe the dirt – but it had a certain sound that you couldn't replicate. Believe me, lots of people have tried." An infectious rhythmic swagger infused "Tumbling Dice", the lead-off single from Exile, and "Happy", Richards' signature song. "Sometimes, you come up with something you could play all night. 'Tumbling Dice' has got such a nice groove and a flow on it," he muses. "Living on top of the whole scene had its advantages. 'Happy' epitomised that. One afternoon, Jimmy Miller [the producer] was on drums and Bobby Keys on baritone sax, but that was about it. The guys didn't usually start work until after dark. I said: 'Look, I've got this idea. Can we just lay it down for later?' By the time the rest of the band arrived, I'd done a few overdubs and we had finished the track. I'd captured it before anybody else knew it existed. I play 'Happy' quite a lot. It's not usually my genre. I'm not known for happy and joyful stuff. I'm probably more aligned to Lucifer and the dark side. But it was a damn good afternoon and I still love it." There was one flaw in the masterplan: the flow of visitors documented by the photographer Dominique Tarlé in the coffee-table book Exile: The Making of Exile on Main St – a favourite of Richards. "Ah, Dominique, great guy. We liked Dominique because he was the most invisible photographer. You never knew he was there, he melted in and became part of the band. I was amazed by the book. I didn't know he'd taken that many pictures. A lot of people that you didn't intend to be there, like Gram Parsons, ended up at Nellcôte, and stayed for a month. Gram is on Exile in spirit. The good die young." Nevertheless, the guitarist is adamant that extra-curricular activities didn't deter the group from focusing on music. "Yes, you can call it a vibe, it was a thick one," he says with a smile. "Of course, there were drugs, but it didn't affect the work. We were making a record, we didn't have time!" The months spent at Nellcôte have been described as hedonistic but he recalls comedy moments. "There was a chef, Big Jacques, who blew the kitchen up. There was a great explosion," he gesticulates. "We had a couple of local Villefranche boys working for us. Yes, they did hook us to the railway line a couple of times when the power went. The gendarmes were very reasonable in their Mediterranean way. Sometimes, they just wanted to come around and have a look. You stand outside the front gate with the sergeant. 'Monsieur, excusez-moi.' Usually, things would settle down and you'd say: 'Come in, have a cognac.' We did have a robbery and we got some of the guitars back. Justice prevailed. We'll leave it at that. The lady caretaker was great. How she put up with us all... The smile on her face all the time. I don't quite know what she was smiling at but she handled us very correctly. I have fond memories of playing and working there. There could be worse places to make a record." Kicking off with the out-and-out rockers "Rocks Off" and "Rip This Joint", Exile also saw the Stones explore a more gospel-flavoured, soulful direction. "Yeah, strangely enough, once we were in the middle of France, we started to dig deep into American music. After all, basically, that's what we do," reflects Richards. "But we started to pull on different aspects of it, country music for instance, gospel. Maybe, because we weren't in America, we missed it." In fact, even if Exile is presented as the album the Stones made on the lam, chunks of it had already been recorded at Olympic Studios, London, where they'd made three previous albums. Exile was completed at Sunset Sound in LA between November 1971 and February 1972. "In order to mix it and to do certain overdubs, we needed rather more sophisticated equipment than what we had in our truck. That was the reason we took it there: to polish it, give it a little touch of Hollywood. The great thing about LA, especially in those days, you could make a phone call at three in the morning and say: 'We need a couple of voices.' Within half an hour, there'd be a couple of chicks ready to go, still wearing their nightdresses," he adds with a glint in his eye. "It was like that. You'd have an idea and it would actually happen, which was kind of cool." Exile is now seen as the high watermark in the band's canon, but it wasn't in 1972. "Maybe because it was a double album. We had to fight the record company about that. We insisted it was a double," recalls Richards about Atlantic, which distributed the recently launched Rolling Stones label around the world. "We knew that there was going to be a reaction to it, just because it was very different. There was no hit singles. It was an album by itself. There was a lot of determination in the band to step up to the plate and make an interesting record. They'd kicked us out of England. We were the exiles. That's why the album ended up being called Exile on Main St. We were very aware that we were suddenly out there, with our backs to the wall. We had to make it up as we went along. There was no script, nobody had done it before. We were reinventing the Stones as we went along. It was a miracle it happened, quite honestly. The Stones had this streak of what do you want to call it, luck, bonne chance. "In a way, we were growing up along with the audience," says the guitarist. "The tracks we found in the vault are mostly as we left them 39 years ago. I can hear stuff and go: 'Oh, my God, did I actually play that?' Sometimes you just take off. The spirit, the feel of it, it's well worth putting it out, because it's the flavour of the era. I stroked an acoustic guitar here and there. Mick did new vocals for 'Plundered My Soul' and 'Following the River'. We had to draw the line somewhere. We decided that, if we were going to repackage and put Exile out as a box-set, then we should add some of the other stuff that we had left over. When you make records, these things sort of fold over. There's stuff from Sticky Fingers that went into Exile at one end and out of the other into Goats Head Soup. Nobody writes an album from track one to track 12 and says: 'that's it'. It's a continual process and hopefully it will continue." Stones fans have been spoiled with the expanded Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! and now Exile, but what's on the cards? "Nobody's going to make a decision about what we're going to do until we get further into 2010," says Richards. "No doubt the guys are going to want to talk about whether we're going to record and go on the road in one form or another. Maybe we're going to talk about doing it differently. There's going to be a lot of that. I would tell you if I knew." The Independent |
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Title: Mick interview on BBC...new stuff coming??? Post by Paranoid Android on May 14th, 2010 at 9:36am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 14th, 2010 at 12:09pm
he bonus disc is off the hook... just listened to it in the car, really loud... Following the river sounded great...
hopefully tonite i will get a chance to load it in lossless on my iPod and kick it with my headphones on really cranking... just got told by the wife to to turn it down... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by polytoxic on May 14th, 2010 at 1:13pm Pdog wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 12:09pm:
Yeah it's outstanding. I don't mind the new vocals one bit. "good to be alive and kickin'" refrain in Pass The Wine says it all. I'm so glad I can stop reading reviews now because I know it kicks ass. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Teiz on May 14th, 2010 at 5:05pm
It's here! It's here! It's here! Ran to the store and gave them a 120 euro's without a second thought. Now I'm acting a bit like Gollum with the ring around it... :smilemick
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 5:15pm
I feel like such a douche
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 14th, 2010 at 5:21pm Some Guy wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 5:15pm:
Why? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 14th, 2010 at 5:22pm
Just checked Amazon!!!!
"Your item is shipping soon." Yes, yes, yes!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 5:23pm buddhabone wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 5:21pm:
because I got nothing |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 5:25pm
are they playing a video for FTR tonight and what time might Atlantans be able to view this?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 14th, 2010 at 5:46pm
Website says 12:00 GMT, that is 4 hours ahead of Eastern time.
It'll be on @ 8:00pm Eastern. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 5:52pm
mucho gracious!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 14th, 2010 at 6:08pm
Just watched the FWTR video, not bad, sound is not very good but it seems Mick is forcing his voice too much, working on Demonoid now...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 14th, 2010 at 6:18pm buddhabone wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 5:46pm:
We're five ahead of ET, not four. It's a bit confusing, because as of the last 6 weeks or so, we're in BST (British Summer Time). Apart from a week or two, we're 5 hours ahead of ET all year round. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 6:21pm
does that make it 9pm here?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SoulPlunderer on May 14th, 2010 at 6:58pm Some Guy wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 6:21pm:
It's on now! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 14th, 2010 at 6:59pm
Just saw the Stones in Exile documentary at the Fallon show. It is very, very good. For me it would have been perfect had they not used the brief reenactment clips. Short black and white video of supposed action in the basement. Sort of reminded me of the History channel. IMO they would have been much better served using more of Dominique's photos.
What was very cool was the studio banter and song outtakes playing at times in the background. If there is a god someday the Stones will release the whole take of the acoustic Loving Cup, not just the 10 second snippet they played. Absolutely stunning in my mind. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 7:04pm SoulPlunderer wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 6:58pm:
I just heard it! It's hot! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 14th, 2010 at 7:30pm
can't wait till 1130 to watch the fallon show...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 14th, 2010 at 7:35pm Also caught the Fallon taping today. 'Stones In Exile' is the goods. Terrific footage, lots of Dominique Tarlé photos, nice interviews, and of course, great music. Don't miss it! Very funny Mick intro with Fallon, and a hilarious Keef walk on. Both on tape, unfortunately... BTW, The Roots were sublime. They warmed up the crowd with 'Gimme Shelter', and did killer takes on 'Shake Your Hips', 'Ventilator Blues' and 'I Just Want to See His Face' during the commercial breaks. Thanks to Jimmy and friends for a very enjoyable week. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 14th, 2010 at 7:38pm Pdog wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 7:30pm:
what time is that in the southeast? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 14th, 2010 at 7:40pm
yaba daba doo.
It's happening...we are close. I went to my local indie shop and the owner handed me a copy of the 2-disc version. He sold it to me at his cost...a really cool dude. Amazon should have my super deluxe here by Monday!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 14th, 2010 at 7:40pm Some Guy wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 7:38pm:
Small hand on 12, big hand on 6... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 14th, 2010 at 8:29pm
The video is HERE, Thanks Fabián from Oberá at our message board in Spanish
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid73409552001?bctid=84921693001 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by homesickjameswilliamson on May 14th, 2010 at 8:58pm
Strange video, i like it
songs great, basically angel girl and shine a light, cant wait to hear the album i know a lot of the focus is on the new songs, but what is the remaster of the actual album like? i remember reading it was another all in the red 'radio friendly' compression mixes - is this true? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 14th, 2010 at 9:22pm
I just scored this today at a sidewalk sale...great condition...5 bucks!!!
From July 14, 1972: |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 14th, 2010 at 9:35pm
TITLE FIVE (take 1) sounds like a musical bumper...is makes me WANT MORE NOW!!!
More of everything... anything... more Exile... more vault material... MORE MORE MORE!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 14th, 2010 at 9:39pm
I like it but it feels a tad strange.
Clearly "2010 Mick" with "1972 Stones". It reminds me of Streets of Love. Why??? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 14th, 2010 at 9:49pm LadyJane wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 9:39pm:
I thought the same thing LJ!!! I think it's the way he ends the words at the end of each line... Rivehhhh...Seehhhhh...Laughtehhhh....lovehhhh I think it fits well w/ the background singers gospel style I'm not putting it down...just what i noticed... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 14th, 2010 at 9:57pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 8:29pm:
Now it's also available at the official website http://www.rollingstones.com/video/following-river |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 14th, 2010 at 10:24pm Paranoid Android wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 9:49pm:
Put that song anywhere on Exile and it sticks out like a sore thumb as not belonging....no way..... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by jeff on May 14th, 2010 at 10:25pm
can one of you lucky bastards who have it already mp3 us a pass the wine? much obliged
IMHO, following the river sounds like pretty much any of jagger's solo work except for nicky's lovely part, charlie's too |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 15th, 2010 at 4:22am
There's a bit more to it, the chords maybe, Mick's solo chords are generally pretty straightforward, even on good songs like "Don't Tear me Up", Keith is more inventive even with simple stuff, like "Mixed Emotions".
Since we're talking Exile I just discovered a smashing Viny Rip here : http://pbthal.blogspot.com/2010/03/rolling-stones-exile-on-main-street.html - on first listen it sounds more "natural" than the remaster that seems to have been compressed to death...should sound good on my iPhone I guess... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 15th, 2010 at 8:41am
Not out in the UK until Monday, but my 2-CD set arrived today. Makes for a more enjoyable weekend.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 15th, 2010 at 8:42am The Rolling Stones shine a light on 'Exile on Main St.' reissue Keith Richards, Mick Jagger and recent producer Don Was discuss the band's 1972 album and the rerelease's previously unheard material. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards during the "Exile" sessions. (Dominique Tarlé©/UMG) By Randy Lewis, Los Angeles Times May 16, 2010 Keith Richards remembers the period in the early 1970s when the Rolling Stones were working on "Exile on Main St." as a fairly down time. The parts he remembers at all, that is. That's partly due to the fact that the recording sessions took place as the Stones guitarist and songwriter's heroin habit took hold in a big way, a habit that took him nearly a decade to shake. But it wasn't strictly the drugs he was referring to when he spoke recently about that fabled phase in his and the group's life. It's a period he and Mick Jagger have been revisiting in depth while preparing an elaborate new reissue of the landmark "Exile" double album as well as a new documentary of that period, "Stones in Exile," being released simultaneously. "The word 'debauchery' comes up an awful lot," Richards, 66, said with a sly chuckle. "Drugs did too — there was quite a bit of that. But when you're making a record, you're totally focused on that. You don't really consider what else is going on; you don't have time for it. Debauchery is the last thing on your mind … I'm down in a bunker trying to make a record." Indeed, the word "down" came up more often than "debauchery" or "drugs" during the conversation with Richards, one of a small handful of interviews he and Jagger agreed to in conjunction with Tuesday's reissue of "Exile," widely considered to be one of the group's finest. There was a siege mentality to the making of "Exile," recorded as it was mostly in a foreign environment after the band members relocated to the South of France to avoid paying massive income tax bills back home in England. Richards rented Villa Nellcote, a 19th century mansion in Villefranche-sur-Mer, Nice, that had been used by the Gestapo during World War II, which added to the dark undercurrent. By the time the band decamped for Los Angeles to put finishing touches on the basic tracks recorded in the mansion's basement, the band felt relief. "It was a joy to get to L.A. after being locked down in that bunker for months," Richards said, adding with an edgy laugh: "Tell it to Hitler." In fact, the "Main St." of the title refers to the downtown Los Angeles thoroughfare. Most of the Stones' catalog has been remastered and reissued at various times over the years. But the arrival of an expanded reissue of "Exile on Main St.," including 10 bonus tracks recorded around the same time, constitutes a Big Event in any Stones fan's book. When Rolling Stone published its list of the 500 greatest albums of all time in 2003, "Exile" ranked No. 7. Critic Robert Christgau puts it at the top of his assessment of the Stones' recorded output, bestowing an A+ rating on what he called "a fagged-out masterpiece." And "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" just devoted an entire week of shows built around the reissue. 'A special album' Jagger has dissed "Exile" periodically, grousing at various times about the way his vocals were buried in the sonic mix, the ramshackle manner in which much of it was recorded and the retro feel of many of the songs at a time when the singer was pushing for greater musical experimentation. But after spending a good chunk of the last year revisiting the period, the vocalist who defined rock swagger calls it "a special album." "I don't really have a favorite Stones album, to be honest," Jagger, also 66, said in a separate interview. "You have songs you like one day, songs you like on another day … but there's not one [album] I treasure above all others. It depends on what you're in the mood for. But 'Exile' is very good .... It's got a lot to offer, there's a lot of depth in it and it holds up." The Stones' self-imposed exile to France stemmed from a tax rate in England that could exceed 90% for those with the greatest incomes, which led many entertainers to establish homes elsewhere. "It affected everyone" in the band, Jagger said of their flight. "You made light of it at the time, but when you look back, it was quite disruptive in a lot of ways." As Richards recalls, "It required a lot of improvisation. At the same time, I don't remember anybody being apprehensive about it. You just make due. It proved to us you could make records not just inside a studio." Asking a favor When Jagger called three-time Grammy-winning producer Don Was last year looking for assistance in assembling the "Exile" bonus material, it was the lifelong Stones fan's dream come true. Was, who's on tap to discuss the reissue on June 3 at the Grammy Museum, first saw the band live at age 12 in Detroit on their first U.S. tour in 1964; decades later the group enlisted him to produce "Voodoo Lounge," "Bridges to Babylon," "Stripped," "Live Licks" and "A Bigger Bang." "Mick called up and asked me to help, almost as if it were a chore," Was, 57, said. "I'm just glad he couldn't see me salivating over the phone. Whatever you think of 'Exile,' it's become so ingrained in the musical vocabulary of all rock 'n' roll musicians who have come subsequently .... That thing is seminal." Indeed, Jagger said he was happy for the attention. "When Universal got the catalog, they said, 'We want to put out the albums with special rereleases — Would you help us?' And when you say OK, you know it's never going to be like two weeks' work .… A lot of the work could be delegated to other people, but when it comes down to it, you've got to put your back into it and pick the best things. But I quite enjoyed the result." Richards' instructional note to Was was unequivocal about his philosophy on how to handle the previously unreleased material. "At the very beginning, Keith sent me a fax in calligraphy script with a whole lot of flair," Was said. "It just said, 'Don't try to make it sound like 'Exile' — it is 'Exile.' The idea was to do as absolutely little as possible, and not try to reinvent the wheel. Keith said, 'Don't rewrite the Bible.' " The Glimmer Twins By some accounts, "Exile" reflects more of Richards' stick-to-the-basics musical aesthetic. The album's signature songs, such as "Rocks Off," "Rip This Joint," "All Down the Line," "Sweet Virginia" and "Torn and Frayed," tap his deep affection for American roots music. It also included "Happy," which at the time was virtually unprecedented in featuring the tight-lipped guitarist taking on a lead vocal. Despite well-chronicled clashes between Jagger and Richards over the years, the creative chemistry that's allowed the team to endure for nearly half a century was undeniable to those who witnessed it in action. "During the recording of 'Exile on Main Street,' I was given unlimited access by the Stones," photographer Jim Marshall wrote in a recollection of the L.A. sessions on his website before he died in March. "I had just photographed them for Life magazine and knew Keith and Mick pretty well. "Jagger could be in the control room and start to say something to Keith," Marshall noted, "and before the words even came out of his mouth, Keith was doing it on the guitar. I've been to a lot of sessions, but I've never seen two guys work in sync this way before." Said Was: "I'll go with that, absolutely. Whoever coined that term, 'the greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world,' they really are. "This is from someone who's followed them closely since the beginning," Was said. "In many ways, they are better than anyone." Los Angeles Times |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 9:07am Gazza wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 8:41am:
FYG :willya I'm gonna wait 'til the 26th to have the Japanese sending my package and then wait an additional week (maybe less as I paid Express Mail Service) to have it at my PO Box and then pick it up So once more FYG :willya ;) ;D 8-) :o BTW there are only 12 copy available of the super-super-deluxe edition (92-page book and bonus track) so it was not a good idea to pay for it almost a month ago :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey Anyway sooner or later I'll have it :smoking :weed :booze :keithpunky |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 15th, 2010 at 9:12am
Talking of the Japanase Deluxe Edition, has it surfaced for sale elsewhere, now ?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 9:26am
Deluxe http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-1478
Super Deluxe http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-91557&ref=myp (only 12 available) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 15th, 2010 at 9:48am
Thanks for digging up the links, yes I'd thought of getting it there and the price is good at €150, but shipping via EMS is a bit much for me at €64 , will wait to see if it shows up elsewhere...and if the text of the bigger book is not in Japanese ;-)
BTW what does the SHM-CD stand for in the Japanese release, Super High Mastering ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 15th, 2010 at 9:57am Rolling Stones’ Exile on Main St. re-release electrifying It may be a mess but it’s also ‘electrifying, insinuating, addictive and bloodstream-level propulsive’ Published On Fri May 14 2010 By Geoff Pevere Entertainment Columnist Charlie Watts, left, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards attend the re-release of The Rolling Stones' Exile on Main St. album at New York's Museum of Modern Art on May 11. STEPHEN LOVEKIN/GETTY IMAGES “I think Exile lacked a bit of definition. I’m being supercritical, I know, but the record lacks a little focus.” (Mick Jagger, 1987) This is true. Exile on Main St., the double album released in May 1972 by The Rolling Stones—to be re-released next week in several variously-priced “deluxe” editions—and which has since become enshrined as one of the key rock albums ever recorded, is a bit of a mess. It sounds murky. It veers in tone and influence from pre-punk assault to gospel-sanctified glory. There are traces of blues, country, R&B and jukebox-era rock ’n’ roll. At times you wonder if you’re listening to jams caught by an unattended microphone. It doesn’t seem to know what it wants to be. But it’s electrifying. Insinuating, addictive and bloodstream-level propulsive. Possibly the best evidence that the Stones’ self-designated “world’s greatest rock and roll band” brand is a simple statement of hard fact, and an album so good it begs forgiveness of everything else this maddeningly inconsistent, incomparably arrogant and at times, insufferably past-prime boomer institution has ever done, or not done since. There is no record I’ve owned in more formats – two vinyl versions, one cassette, and two (soon to be three) CD incarnations — and there’s nothing I’ve listened to more often or with more undiminishing, inexhaustible pleasure. It’s the one I’d take to that desert island equipped with a sound system, and the one that seems to live up to every ideal of what rock music was, is, or ought to be. A perfect album, that is, touched by some mystical alchemy of grace, grit and sheer cosmic fluke. Sorry, Mick. In Exile on Main St.: A Season in Hell With The Rolling Stones, his book-length account of the madness attending to the album’s production — a tale involving Corsican drug traffickers, assaults with deadly weapons, multiple vehicular misadventure, Caligulan sexual promiscuity and enough narcotic ingestion to send even the reader into rehab — Robert Greenfield suggests that no single factor accounts for the singular accidental greatness of The Rolling Stones’ only four-sided studio album than the fact that it was recorded in Keith Richards’ basement. Here’s how that happened. By 1971, The Rolling Stones had entered a tax bracket that made it fiscally unfeasible for them to remain in Great Britain. Following the release of Sticky Fingers in 1971, they were at both their commercial and creative peak, but a series of legal, managerial and personnel imbroglios had left the band, not unaccustomed to the lush life, strapped for cash. After establishing their own record label and freeing themselves from the allegedly sticky-fingered management practices of Allen Klein, the Stones needed to get out and do what they not only did best, but more lucratively than any other act on the planet: tour. But to tour they needed an album, and to record an album they needed a place to record. What can a poor boy do? Especially a freshly-exiled group of poor boys not famous for their adherence to schedules, structure or game-plan teamwork? Keith Richards, as unlikely a solution-man as humankind has ever evolved, nevertheless offered one. The Rolling Stones’ guitarist and notoriously determined oblivion-seeker had —while tightroping between heroin dependencies—found a tax haven not only in the South of France, but in an isolated 19th century villa (once, as it was subsequently determined commandeered by Nazis during the Second World War) called Nellcote. After a certain scouring of the region had turned up nothing suitable for recording purposes, Richards made the suggestion: The villa was built over a labyrinth of (no doubt Gestapo-ideal) basements, so why not make the record there? Writes Greenfield in you-are-there present-tense: “Since Keith has already proven there is no knowing when, or if, he will ever arrive at any session on time, and getting him from one place to another, most especially when he has other things on his mind, can be a nightmare of major proportions, how better to solve this problem than by making his home into the Stones’ new recording studio?” Sure. Why not. Sounds reasonable. But so apparently did the idea to have the Hells Angels provide some ‘security’ at the free concert a couple of years earlier at Altamont, California, and most remember how that turned out. (A reminder: four people died, one of whom was stabbed to death by a Hells Angel on camera and just feet from the stage.) Mick Taylor, the 23-year-old guitarist who replaced Brian Jones after the original Stone was found dead, floating in his London swimming pool, and who would leave the band bearing evidence of lingering psychic trauma acquired at least partly at Nellcote — once explained the formulating theory: “All (Keith) had to do was fall out of his bed, roll downstairs, and voilà, he was at work.” That sound you hear is the devil’s laughter. For an exhaustive accounting of the devilment that descended upon Nellcote, I suggest you consult Greenfield’s fine book. There is simply too much to fit comfortably here, but suffice to say it included birth, death, marriage, marital infidelity, stupefying delays and untold amounts of drug-related debauchery. Exile was born of chaos, but that chaos somehow adhered into something vital, urgent and lasting. On-the-ground stories abound of how Keith would disappear for hours under cover of putting his son to bed, only to return to the basement with something so desperately in need of recording engineers had to be summoned from their distant bunks to rush back to Nellcote and get it on tape. And do it before Keith ascended to oblivion once again. If ever an album’s cover portended what it packaged, it was Robert Frank’s for Exile. A ragged black-and-white collage of photos found on a tattoo parlour wall in the 1950s, when the Swiss-born photographer was compiling shots for the Beat-era volume that would come to be called The Americans, the cover captures a seedy hurly-burly of after-hours urban street life, which Frank supplemented with captured super-8 frames of the band in the studio and on the street in Los Angeles. The overall effect is of placing the Stones beneath a kind of claustrophobic sewer-grate of collected, trickle-down Americana, a perfect corollary of the music’s sonic stew of blues, country, gospel, R&B and rock ’n’ roll. Like the music itself, the cover is at first puzzling, out of focus and impenetrable. But then, over time, it coheres, and what you see is what you hear: a veritable history of American music forms percolating up from under, the sound of the underground roots of the Stones bubbling up from that basement. Not everyone heard it, at least certainly not at first and lastly Mick Jagger. (He was still slagging Exile as “overrated” a few years into the 21st Century.) But some did. I’m not saying my 14-year-old self was among them, but I certainly heard something, and something like I’d never heard before and only very rarely since. The record wouldn’t let me go. That my first copy skipped, and that the line “just as long as the guitar plays…” still gets stuck in my psyche every time I hear “Torn and Frayed” now seems cosmically foreordained. Lester Bangs, the late, great rock critic and phrasemaker, also heard something, but what he heard was a hint of how Exile would play in the future. Here’s what he wrote about the album in the January, 1973 issue of Creem: “The Stones still have the strength to make you feel that both we and they are hemmed in and torn by similar walls, frustrations, and tragedies. Exile is dense enough to be compulsive: hard to hear, at first, the precision and fury behind the murk ensure that you’ll come back, hearing more with each playing. What you hear sooner or later is two things: an intuition for non-stop get down perhaps unmatched since The Rolling Stones, Now!, and a strange kind of humility and love emerging from a dazed frenzy.” On vinyl, the Stones would never be as good again. While there would be moments when the old demons would surge productively, they would be isolated and increasingly few and far between. But it tells us something about both the band, and the music that inspired them, that never again would the Stones leave themselves so vulnerable to chance. Accident would irreversibly give way to calculation, and the Stones would begin their long, steel-wheeled roll into perpetual self-impersonation. There wouldn’t be any room for chaos in the equation, which meant no more miracles coming out of the basement. More than anything, Exile on Main St. is a testament to how the best rock music has always defied any logic but its own need to be heard. The Toronto Star |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 15th, 2010 at 11:33am The Rolling Stones at Villa Nellcôte Villa Nellcôte was the exotic location where the Rolling Stones recorded their legendary Exile On Main St album. John Robinson shines a light on the decadent mansion Mick Jagger and Keith Richards at Villa Nellcôte. Photo: Dominique Tarlé In the new Rolling Stones documentary film, Stones In Exile, Mick Jagger and Charlie Watts visit several locations crucial to the making of the band's 1972 album Exile On Main St. They visit Stargroves, Mick Jagger's former home, where several sessions were held. The pair take a stroll through London's Olympic Studios, where a wealth of the band's late-60s and early-70s recordings took place. They go to Sunset Sound studios in Los Angeles, where Exile's tapes were mixed and mastered. The one venue the immaculately dressed pair don't revisit, however, is arguably the most infamous in the album's history. Commissioned in 1854 by a businessman named Eugene Thomas, in 1971 Villa Nellcôte, in Villefranche-sur-Mer on the Côte D'Azur was the temporary residence of Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards, his partner Anita Pallenberg and their son, Marlon. Upstairs, a beautiful entourage socialised, often illicitly. In Nellcôte's many-roomed basement, the Rolling Stones recorded material for what became their most storied album. "It's got a raw sound quality, and the reason for that is that the basement was very dingy and very damp," says Mick Taylor, Stones lead guitarist for the five years between 1969 and 1974. "The roof leaked and there were power failures. We had to deal with all that, and go with the flow." The flow to which Taylor refers was the fragrant drifting in and out of some of the era's most interesting characters. Musicians like Bobby Keys, the sax player who taught Keith Richards the pleasures of throwing furniture out of windows. Drug dealers like Tommy Weber, who arrived with his children, and a plentiful supply of cocaine. Glamorous friends like Stash Klossowski, son of the painter Balthus. There were record execs, family members, groupies, wasters and journalists. "People appeared, disappeared, no one had a last name, you didn't know who anybody was," remembers Robert Greenfield, who was at Nellcôte to interview Keith Richards for Rolling Stone. "There were 16 people for lunch, and lunch went on for three-and-a-half hours. It was an unparalleled cast of characters." For all the relaxed atmosphere at Nellcôte, it was, however, pragmatic business practice that had taken the Stones to the south of France. With the disaster of the 1969 Altamont free concert behind them, the band had spent the previous 18 months putting their affairs in order. They had started their own record label, and were about to release the classic Sticky Fingers album. They were planning a massive US tour for 1972. They were musicians, and major celebrities, but if they stayed in the UK, they would have to pay 93% income tax. The band's financial advisor, Prince Rupert Lowenstein, came up with an ingenious solution. After playing a short "farewell tour" in England, in April 1971, The Rolling Stones went into tax exile in France. At Keith's residence, they parked their new acquisition, a £65,000 mobile recording studio, and set, erratically, to work. "It was an impressive house," remembers Andy Johns, who engineered and mixed Exile. "Somewhat baroque. The heating vents on the floor were gold swastikas. Keith told me that it had been a Gestapo headquarters in the war. But he told me, 'It's OK. We're here now.'" While the Stones soaked up the hospitality, producer Jimmy Miller and Andy Johns waited in the van for inspiration to strike the band. As Keith's recreation continued, it was clear they would be waiting a long time. "Keith's euphemism was, 'I'm going to put Marlon to bed now …'" remembers Johns. "Nobody really went upstairs. I remember being at the bottom of the stairs once with Mick Jagger and Jimmy Miller, and we wanted Keith. I said to Mick, 'It's a band thing, why don't you go and get him?' He said, 'I'm not going up there …'" "There was a friction at that time," says Marshall Chess, who ran the Stones' own record label. "Mick didn't like Exile; it was being made in Keith's domain. And then there was the drug issue, which I was somewhat naive about. But I could see the effects." "Keith was open about everything," says Robert Greenfield of his interview with Richards, "apart from the heroin." He remembers how he watched Mick Jagger wait in vain for Keith Richards to emerge so they could begin a songwriting session, then leave disappointed. Meanwhile, the friendship between Keith and another Nellcôte guest, singer-songwriter Gram Parsons, wasn't helping the band's productivity. 'If the kids wouldn't sleep, we'd take them out in a speedboat ride to Monte Carlo. We'd have cocktails, and the kids would fall asleep on the way' "Keith invited us down," remembers Gretchen Carpenter, then married to Parsons. "Keith and Gram were two peas in a pod. They were best friends, exploring music. They were instantaneous friends, and instantaneous troublemakers." As time passed, it became clear that something was needed to help kickstart the writing and recording process. When it did arrive, it came not from the exotic south of France, but – bizarrely – from the south of London. For several years prior to 1971, the Stones had kept a rehearsal studio-cum-equipment store in Bermondsey. On a visit there in 1971, Trevor Churchill, then the European label manager for Rolling Stones Records, noticed a pile of tapes lurking in the corner of the room. "I thought, 'What the hell are they doing here?'" remembers Churchill. "So, I bounced them on to cassette, then took them to the south of France." The tapes Churchill took to Nellcôte were a mixture of demos and incomplete tracks, with names – like Bent Green Needles and Good Time Woman – that even today sound unfamiliar. What they went on to become – respectively, the Exile classics Sweet Black Angel and Tumbling Dice – are rather better known. "That's how Exile turned into a double album," explains Churchill. "They got an extra half a million dollars. They were quite pleased with that." While the band continued their intermittent recording, the days at Nellcôte passed in a slow, dazed enchantment. To pass the time, Andy Johns and horn player Jim Price set up a casino in their own villa. A guy lived on the front lawn, in a tepee. "There wasn't really any pattern, that wasn't the way they rolled," says Gretchen Carpenter. "If the kids wouldn't sleep, we'd take them out in a speedboat ride to Monte Carlo. We'd have cocktails, and the kids would fall asleep on the way. It was the most perfect summer, but everything seemed to go wrong after that." There was a burglary, during which several guitars were stolen from the house. Producer Jimmy Miller began getting more involved in the heavy drug use among the musicians. Ultimately, there was a drugs bust, which precipitated the Stones' rapid departure for America in October, where they worked to make sense of the Nellcôte tapes, and, says Marshall Chess, "Mick took control". The deserted mansion, and the beautiful people who had temporarily resided there, meanwhile, were left to take their place in rock legend. "Sometimes turmoil and trouble in art make it come out good," says Marshall Chess. "Toulouse-Lautrec drank absinthe. Great jazz musicians shot heroin. It made for a strange scene, but that colouration, that quality is there in Exile." Today, the most famous house in Villfranche-sur-Mer remains cloaked in mystery. While he was making Stones In Exile, director Stephen Kijak asked to visit Nellcôte, but the current owners declined to let their property be filmed. In a way, it's a fitting end to this chapter in the Exile On Main St story. Everyone has their own take on what one might be going on inside. The truth, though, is behind closed doors. An exhibition of the photographs of the Rolling Stones at Villa Nellcôte by Dominique Tarlé is on at the Atlas Gallery (in association with Raj Prem Fine Art Photography), 49 Dorset Street, London, W1 from 15 Jul to 31 Aug. Exile On Main St is reissued in various formats on 17 May. Robert Greenfield's book about the making of Exile On Main St is out now (Da Capo). Stones In Exile is on BBC2 on 23 May. see more of Domique Tarlé's photos here : http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/gallery/2010/may/15/rolling-stones-photography-villa-nellcote |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on May 15th, 2010 at 12:12pm
Found a sweet video of the making of the deluxe set. Don't know if it's been posted yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bqp7nXumzw&playnext_from=TL&videos=6t1WQ3vrrEs&feature=sub |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 15th, 2010 at 1:29pm gotdablouse wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 9:48am:
super high material... many debates over whether or not this is just a marketing ploy or if it really can enhance the sound quality... if you're not an audiophile with a high end system, don't worry about it... because it has nothing to do with the music. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 15th, 2010 at 1:31pm LadyJane wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 9:39pm:
yep... could think of alot of other tracks, they finished up, that could've been on the bonus disc instead of this... or at least with it... it's just another Jagger balald from this century... it's good, for when you need a ballad fix... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 15th, 2010 at 1:32pm Some Guy wrote on May 14th, 2010 at 7:38pm:
1130 is 1130 when it is 1130... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 15th, 2010 at 2:42pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Teiz on May 15th, 2010 at 4:42pm
Cool to see Exile topping the bestseller list, where it belongs. The buzz around this release makes me feel good somehow, papers and tv shows are really giving Exile the attention it deserves. I hope it does give the boys a taste for more, I'd like to see that Some Girls deluxe as well for starters, and a tour...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 15th, 2010 at 4:42pm Re-issue of Stones album spawns Cannes docu 'Stones in Exile' to screen in Directors Fortnight Posted: Sat., May 15, 2010 By STEVE CHAGOLLAN The intoxicating blend of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll never spoils, particularly if it's of an early '70s vintage. And it never hurts to use film and TV to sell it, particularly if the film makes its debut at Cannes. "Exile on Main Street," the Rolling Stones' down-and-dirty double album that was reviled upon its 1972 release -- then later hailed as a masterpiece -- appears to grow ever more complex with age. Event-scaled activity is swirling around the album's digitally remastered reissue May 18, which includes 10 freshly unearthed tracks from the period. The Universal Music Group has spared no expense to create three lavish packages: from the original 18-track release to a "super deluxe" edition that includes vinyl, a 30-minute DVD and a 64-page collector's book. In addition, UMG has enlisted its merchandising company, Bravado, to create an extensive line of "Exile"-inspired products -- t-shirts, caps, leather jackets and the like, all outfitted with the Stones' iconic tongue-wagging logo. Also as part of the festivities: An entire week of NBC's "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" devoted to the "Exile" re-release; Stones frontman Mick Jagger is scheduled to participate in a rare interview about his career and "Exile" on CNN's "Larry King Live" May 18; and a 60-minute documentary, "Stones in Exile," will unspool at Cannes on May 19 -- perhaps the first time a film commissioned as a promotional tool will be screened as part of the fest's Directors Fortnight (with Mick Jagger and director Stephen Kijak expected to attend). At the time "Exile" first came out, double LPs represented outsized ambition, hubris or an artist's creative peak. For the Stones, "Exile" qualified as all-of-the-above, and its place in the rock firmament is secure, not only for it's raunchy mix of party-hearty rock classics and Delta blues-inspired ballads, but also for the chaotic circumstances under which it was made. Recalls then-president of Rolling Stones Records, Marshall Chess, in "Stones in Exile": "I was coming from (the approach that) you had to make three sides in three hours. These guys were taking two weeks to get one track down." Or, as saxophone player Bobby Keys describes it, "It was about as unrehearsed as a hiccup." The group had chosen Nellcote more out of convenience than necessity. Instruments were placed in various basement nooks and crannies -- a kitchen, a hallway -- to achieve some semblance of separation and desired acoustics. "The place was atrocious," reveals recording engineer Andy Johns in Kijak's film. "It was so humid, and the guitars would go in and out of tune all the time and the gear wasn't working properly and the lights would go on and off and there were fires. It was just insane." The situation wasn't helped by the fact that band members were spread out all over the countryside, and as far away as Paris, where Jagger attended to his newlywed wife Bianca, who cast a wary eye on his band mates and their motley crew of groupies and hangers on. Personality differences also took their toll. "I never plan anything, which is probably the difference between Mick and myself," says Richards in "Stones in Exile." "Mick needs to know what we're going to do tomorrow and I'm just happy to wake up and see who's hanging around." The film's footage is mostly culled from outtakes from Robert Frank's infamous doc, "Cocksucker Blues," which chronicled the Stones' 1972 American tour (Frank also shot the "Exile" cover art using a Super 8 camera), and a treasure trove of images from the French photographer Dominique Tarle, who spent six months with Richards, his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg and the band during the making of the album at Nellcote. "We worked really hard to get people to feel like they were in the basement," says Kijak (pronounced "kayak"), best known for the acclaimed music documentary, "Scott Walker: 30 Century Man." "Between Dominique's photos and Robert's footage, we just tried to let those two things steer us." While Kijak managed to piece together a compelling story that is brutally frank, he does admit some concessions were made as a director for hire, such as interviews with Sheryl Crow and Benicio Del Toro that bookend the film. "Celebrity talking heads can sometimes be a concession to higher powers," Kijak says. "But everyone was handpicked to have some kind of connection with the Stones. And in a way, we wanted to use them as a kind of stand-in for fans." One of those fans, who also happens to be a celebrity, is Fallon, who wasn't even born when "Exile" was released. The 35-year-old comedian/talkshow host, who does a spot-on imitation of Jagger, first got to know the Stones' frontman when they both appeared on "Saturday Night Live." The two recently reunited at a charity event where Fallon offered to help promote the new "Exile" release. Jagger suggested Fallon premiere the "Stones in Exile" doc on "Late Night," and the concept turned into a weeklong celebration, with the likes of Green Day, Keith Urban and Phish performing versions of their favorite "Exile" tunes. "Once we announced Phish," says Fallon, "all the other bands came in immediately that day. Keith Urban was the first to call, and said, 'I want to do 'Tumblin' Dice'; that's my song.' I love it when everyone gets juiced up and excited. (These artists) bring a new audience to the Rolling Stones." Of Kijak's film, 40 minutes of which was shown on "Late Night's" May 14 broadcast (the DVD will be released June 22 in the U.S.), Fallon says "(The Stones) are in a filthy basement. They're in the south of France. You see how debauched it was. The story is rock 'n' roll." As Kijak's pic documents, "Exile" was largely conceived in the basement of Keith Richards' rented mansion, Villa Nellcote, in the South of France, after the group was forced to flee England owing taxes that would have left them on the verge of bankruptcy. The record was made in fits and starts by a band suffering from the malaise of displacement. Less-than-ideal recording equipment, stifling summer temperatures, Richards' heroin addiction and a retinue of 24-hour party people only complicated matters. Other key gets were a BBC interview with the late Jimmy Miller, who produced a string of Stones masterpieces that culminated with "Exile," including "Beggar's Banquet," "Let It Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers"; and the actor Jake Weber (CBS' "Medium"), who, as an 8 1/2-year guest at Richards' house at the time, provided a unique, unvarnished perspective of things. "If you're living a decadent life, there's darkness there," Weber recalls in the film. "And this was decadent. Nothing was hidden; everything was out in the open." Variety |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 15th, 2010 at 4:58pm Sex! Drugs! Exploding ovens! The Rolling Stones were on a roll when they made 'Exile on Main Street' By John Soeder May 15, 2010 Dominique Tarlé Mick Jagger, left, and Keith Richards share a moment circa 1971 at Nellcote, where the Rolling Stones recorded "Exile on Main Street." It wasn't all just sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll when the Rolling Stones were making their masterpiece, "Exile on Main Street," at guitarist Keith Richards' mansion in the South of France. The band had to overcome the occasional kitchen disaster, too. "Keith hired these local guys as household staff," recalled longtime sax-playing Stones sideman Bobby Keys, who was there for the "Exile" recording sessions. "They weren't really qualified for those positions," Keys added, laughing. "One guy went out and got himself a chef's hat and a white apron. So he was the chef, right? We're down there in the basement, recording, and all of a sudden: BOOM! You could hear this muffled explosion over the music. We opened the door, and there was black smoke billowing out of the kitchen. "Here comes Fat Jacques -- we called him Fat Jacques because he was fat and his name was Jacques. He had soot all over his face, and his hair was singed. He'd left the gas on, and when he lit a match to light the oven, it exploded. It was a very comical moment." Released in 1972, "Exile" integrated country, R&B, soul and other styles into such classic Stones tunes as "Tumbling Dice," "Happy" and "Shine a Light." The end result was a ramshackle tour de force. The landmark double album will be reissued Tuesday in various formats. The deluxe edition comes with 10 previously unreleased tracks, including "Plundered My Soul," a bluesy lament. Ex-Stones guitarist Mick Taylor recently added some new licks to the latter tune. He parted ways with Mick Jagger & Co. in 1974, ending a five-year stint with the longest-running circus in rock. "Mick called me up and asked me to play on it," said Taylor, who canceled a gig earlier this month at the Kent Stage because of a respiratory ailment. The nucleus of "Plundered My Soul" dates to the original "Exile" sessions, although it was unfinished until now. "It was basically a chord sequence recorded by Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Keith," Taylor said. "I don't think Mick and myself were even there. He made up a vocal to fit the backing track, then called me in to do some guitar parts. It turned out wonderful. "It was nice to see Mick again. It was easy for me to get into that frame of mind where I was playing rock 'n' roll guitar behind his voice. I lead my own band now, and we're more of a blues band. We don't really touch upon the blues-rock style of music that the Stones do. "So it was great to have the opportunity to express what some people would call my old style of playing. I wouldn't call it old. I'd just call it good." To say the vibe was loose when "Exile" first took shape at Nellcote, Richards' villa on the French Riviera, would be an understatement. Amid tawdry hook-ups and hard drugs, famous friends such as Gram Parsons and William S. Burroughs came and went, while tunes came together on the fly. "The song 'Happy,' that's primarily just Keith and me, playing baritone sax," Keys said. "Keith is playing guitar and bass. [Producer] Jimmy Miller played drums." Too much is made of the debauched milieu in which "Exile" was hatched, Keys said. "Not that I played with a bunch of choirboys, but a lot of stuff has been written and written and written about, and damn little is very accurate," he said. So why are we still listening to (and talking about) "Exile," nearly 40 years after the fact? "I'll tell you why -- because it's a good album," Keys said. "The funny thing is, when that album first came out, the critics for Rolling Stone and other magazines really slammed it. I took it personally, because they slammed the horns on it. They said the Rolling Stones were trying to be like everybody else and get an Otis Redding/Stax Records type of sound with the horns. "Of course, 10 or 20 years later, it had become a measuring device. The critics would say the latest Stones album didn't measure up to that grand old timeless hit, 'Exile on Main Street.' " Ironically, one of the album's biggest detractors has been Jagger. " 'Exile on Main Street' is not one of my favorite albums, although I think the record does have a particular feeling," Jagger remarked in "According to the Rolling Stones," an oral history of the band. "I'd love to remix the record, not just because of the vocals, but because generally I think it sounds lousy," Jagger said. Love it or not, the raw sound of the original "Exile" remains intact on the remastered reissue. "There always has been this idea that 'Exile' sounds swampy," said Bill Janovitz, singer-guitarist with the rock group Buffalo Tom and author of "Exile on Main Street," a penetrating book about the album in Continuum's 33 1/3 series. "I don't think 'Exile' sounds small by any means, or bad," Janovitz said. "If you listen to songs like 'All Down the Line' or 'Rocks Off,' they're pretty in-your-face." In all its sprawling glory, "Exile" is "a survey of all this different roots music -- not just American, but Jamaican and African and English folk stuff, too," Janovitz said. "It's all part of a huge continuum." Given the drama behind the scenes, you have to wonder how "Exile" turned out as well as it did. "It's a miracle, really," Taylor said. "All their records turned out well, no matter what was going on behind the scenes. There's a lot of reasons for that, like having good producers. Jimmy Miller doesn't get enough credit for how good some of those records were. "They had great session musicians playing with them, too, like Billy Preston, Bobby Keys and Nicky Hopkins." Asked if he has fond memories of the "Exile" era, Taylor didn't miss a beat. "Yeah," he replied. "When I can remember anything a-tall." The Plain Dealer Nice to read some comments from Bobby, and especially MT. Good stuff... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 5:12pm
The Mexican version was released today, 2CD set with a very nice booklet, I couldn't resist and I bought it since my Japanese version will be released until the 26th
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 5:20pm
Please do NOT post reviews of the new Exile here, I think it would be better to open a new thread so the first who wants to review it please start the thread
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 5:26pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 15th, 2010 at 5:44pm
Looks like you've got disc 2 in the player Voodoo!
What a great thread. Left Shoe great work on the news updates. Was good talking with you yesterday. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 15th, 2010 at 6:01pm
I'm still confused, what is the DVD in the Deluxe package, some kind of condensed version of "Kijak's film" that will be shown in Cannes ?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 15th, 2010 at 6:01pm
New issue of RECORD COLLECTOR (June 2010)
Info on website - http://www.recordcollectormag.com/articles/article-detail/654 Deltics has reprinted what is a pretty good interview with Keith over on IORR : http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1245376 Looks like a new Wingless Angels CD is in the pipeline soon. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 15th, 2010 at 6:05pm gotdablouse wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 6:01pm:
The DVD in Super Deluxe is 30 minutes. 'Stones In Exile' DVD being released next month is 151 minutes. Version shown on Fallon was 40-some minutes long - not sure if that's the full version that'll be shown in Cannes. But it's safe to assume the Eagle Rock release will have lots of extras... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 6:06pm eric wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 5:44pm:
Yes Throbby it's in the player and I'm listening it for the second time in the stereo with my huge speakers loud sound so different that the samples I heard on my computer and the blackberry connected to my car stereo It's really great I even love "Following the River" a LOT :wtf3 really |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 15th, 2010 at 6:10pm
The soul of Exile
Dominique Tarle |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 15th, 2010 at 6:32pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 5:12pm:
I pre-ordered the Target package, but couldn't stop myself from dl'ing it from Demonoid last night. It included a 30-minute DVD, but more importantly, CD 2, and I couldn't have said it better myself, Voo! :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 15th, 2010 at 7:00pm
The credits
As someone told before Lisa is there, I think she's credited for adding backing vocals later |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 16th, 2010 at 12:40am GotToRollMe wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 6:32pm:
I was right there with you too Mary...I figured, I was going to buy it Tuesday anyway ( with a giftcard from my mother-in-law!!! HA! ) so...why not have it a few days in advance to enjoy it!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 16th, 2010 at 8:09am Remastering a masterpiece Stones’ re-release of ‘Exile on Main Street’ stokes nostalgia, anticipation A publicity shot for “Exile on Main Street,’’ which got mixed reviews upon its release in 1972. (Norman Seeff) By Jonathan Perry Globe Correspondent / May 16, 2010 “This is at once the worst studio album the Stones have ever made, and the most maddeningly inconsistent and strangely depressing release of their career.’’ — Lester Bangs, Creem magazine album review of “Exile on Main Street,’’ August 1972 “It’s a bit overrated, to be honest. I’m not saying it’s not good. Compared to ‘Let It Bleed’ and ‘Beggars Banquet,’ which I think are more of a piece, I don’t see it’s as thematic as the other two. It’s got a raw quality, but I don’t think all around it’s as good.’’ — Mick Jagger interview, Rolling Stone, Dec. 14, 1995 Let’s get this out of the way: “Exile on Main Street’’ is not the best Rolling Stones album. But it may well be their most important. For cohesion and expertly executed songcraft, my vote would go to Jagger’s choices or to my favorite, 1971’s “Sticky Fingers.’’ But “Exile’’ is easily the most talked-about, obsessed-over, mythologized work of the band’s nearly 50-year career. Many Stones reissues have hit the market over the years, often shrewdly timed to a new tour or technology. But none has matched the anticipation and nostalgia stoked by this Tuesday’s deluxe re-release treatment of “Exile,’’ which will include 10 previously unreleased tracks as well as reworked “Exile’’-era songs. For several generations of fans and critics (most of whom have radically revised their initial assessments of the album), the Stones’ 1972 opus remains the band’s definitive, enduring statement. But why “Exile?’’ Was it the band’s stew of R&B-marinated rock (“All Down The Line’’), back-porch country (“Sweet Virginia’’), Saturday night blues (“Stop Breaking Down’’), and Sunday morning gospel (“Just Wanna See His Face’’)? Was it photographer Robert Frank’s iconic black & white cover art depicting a melange of carnival freak-show images mixed in with grainy film stills of the Stones hanging out on the streets of Los Angeles and New York? Was it the bleary, just-woke-up-or-never-went-to-bed quality of music that suggested a rolling, tumbling house party in sprawling slow motion? Or was it the toxic aura of decadent glamour that hung over the whole affair, one littered with hangovers and hangers-on? The debauched rock-star mystique, personified in a single inside-sleeve photograph of Mick and Keith leaning like blood brothers into one overhead microphone, singing as they clutch their liquid libations? It’s classic Stones iconography — a snapshot of inspiration from deep inside the woozy womb of what one imagines to be an endless bacchanalian bash. Yes, yes, and yes. Never mind that, upon its release in May 1972, “Exile’’ received mixed reviews, or that Jagger has long refuted it as the Stones’ masterpiece, or that the seedy basement where much of it was recorded was actually situated in Keith’s sumptuous villa in the south of France. “Exile’’ is a sweeping distillation of the Stones’ sybaritic strengths and a consolidation of all of the band’s musical influences, aspirations, and debts. For the first time, instead of being young European outsiders earnestly paying tribute to the older blues musicians they had idolized, the band sounds fully immersed, totally inside of the music, a part of it rather than a pose. As a result, “Exile’’ is the most authentically American music the British-born Stones ever made. When people talk about that signature Stones “sound,’’ this is the era and album they are referring to, trying to emulate (e.g. Wilco’s “Being There’’), or even respond to (Liz Phair’s “Exile in Guyville’’). Generational spell Like many others who were born in, rather than defined by, the decade that birthed the likes of the Stones, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, and the Who, I fell under the spell of “Exile’’ many years after it was first released. It wasn’t my first Rolling Stones album, but to my teenage ears it felt and sounded like the most adventurous, inscrutable, grown-up music I had ever heard. Its gritty, world-weary disposition was, I imagined, the soundtrack to a life experience that was the polar opposite of my shy, sheltered existence growing up in a tiny rural town in Western Massachusetts. It was also a bracing tonic to the corporate claptrap clogging mainstream radio at the time — homogenous drivel like Styx and Asia and, the worst offenders, Loverboy — that to me were emotionally and musically soulless. Only later would I be initiated into the thriving punk and nascent alternative rock that was, at the time, bubbling up from the underground. From the moment I lowered the needle on my cheap Zenith Allegro stereo onto “Rocks Off,’’ the boisterous opening track, and sat down on my shag-carpeted bedroom floor, positioned squarely in front of those bulky speakers, “Exile’’ hit me like a locomotive. I threw myself headlong into the vinyl grooves and lived there for weeks. The four sides of that double-LP would eventually send me backtracking, scrambling to answer Mick’s query on “Hip Shake’’: “Whaddya know ’bout Slim Harpo?’’ Decades later, I’m still discovering how long “Main Street’’ runs, how deep into the country it goes, and how many twisting detours — peaks and valleys of rhythm and groove — there are along the way. Ultimately that’s also the true, enigmatic power of “Exile’’: its emphasis on conjuring moods, riffs, and atmosphere, rather than dispensing radio-ready rock ’n’ roll songs. Even the album’s first single, “Tumbling Dice,’’ sways more than it stings. Like Dylan’s “Blonde on Blonde,’’ another double album of some repute, “Exile on Main Street’’ is bedrock music that is at once a product of its special time and place, and a living, breathing work that transcends those specifics. “What a beautiful buzz, what a beautiful buzz,’’ Jagger observes on “Loving Cup,’’ a line about fleeting contentment delivered with a measure of wonder and — for Jagger — rare sincerity. But there’s a sense of fretful urgency too, a doomed desire to capture and document the nocturnal moment before it vanishes with the dawn. Who knew the buzz, still beautiful, would last another 38 years? The Boston Globe |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SoulPlunderer on May 16th, 2010 at 8:55am
Mick is now being interviewed on BBC 6 Music!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ The interview is on the Huey Show. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 16th, 2010 at 11:15am
Look who's at today's Monaco Grand Prix.
Seems he's already in the south of France for the Cannes festival this week, which is just about 60 miles along the coast |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 16th, 2010 at 11:15am
I am so digging Keith singing lead on Soul Survivor...
I love it when he sings lead on Love Is Strong... is there a collection outakes where Keef sings lead on typical Mick songs??? There should be!!! On a side note...My own 4 1/2 year old Glimmer Twins recognized Aladdin's Story "from the car"...even w/ the new vocals. The Pirate CDs are a staple on any road trip grater than 15 min |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 16th, 2010 at 11:21am
This is the BEST time to be in France...The Grand Prix...the finals are today!!!
The Cannes film fest up the coast is in full swing.. .then the French Open up in Paris... Toss in The Stones and well you have it all my friend!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 16th, 2010 at 11:21am
I love the sound of Keith's voice on SS, nice and warm, I don't think he's ever sounded like that on record, too bad the lyrics are gibberish, he doesn't even have the chorus. I'd heard/read that even on "his" songs he generally had a title and then Mick wrote around it. Even for albums where he doesn't do much, like ABB, it's been said (written here actually by BILL PERKS, or was it "The Wick" that he'd come up with many of the songs titles, I guess he's got the knack for that...).
@gazza - thanks, watched the beginning on TV and they did say that Mike (sic) Jagger was attending. Is that one of the Dunn brothers acting as Mick's BG on the pic with Bernie ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 16th, 2010 at 11:34am Who: Exile on Main St. - Tribute What: Instore Tribute Performance When: Saturday, May 22nd, Time 2PM More: Vintage Vinyl presents the next event in our tribute concert series, celebrating the re-issue of The Rolling Stones' legendary album Exile On Main St. which will be re-issued in May 2010. Performers will include Bruce Tunkel, Frankie McGrath, Rebecca Turner & Dylan Roth. www.vvinyl.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 16th, 2010 at 12:47pm Stephen Kijak, director 13 May, 2010 | By Wendy Mitchell The director of Directors’ Fortnight entry Stones In Exile talks to Wendy Mitchell about working with the band and taking viewers back to the ‘70s US-based film-maker Stephen Kijak (Cinemania, Scott Walker: 30 Century Man) is in Cannes Directors’ Fortnight with his 61-minute documentary Stones In Exile. The project transports the audience to the world of 1972, in the South of France, where the Rolling Stones were riding high from their number one album Sticky Fingers, but were staying as tax exiles in rented mansion Villa Nellcote. There, they worked on what would become their masterpiece, Exile on Main Street. Stones In Exile is comprised of mostly previously unseen archive footage (the bulk of it shot for Robert Frank’s cult classic documentary Cocksucker Blues) with some aesthetically similar new footage that Kijak shot with Grant Gee. Kijak was recruited out of the blue after Keith and Mick saw his documentary Scott Walker — 30 Century Man. Once he found out what the film would be about, he was 100% on board. “There isn’t a better album in their catalogue, I think, to turn into a film,” the film-maker says. “It’s the richest, deepest, weirdest, most mythological album in the catalogue.” Stones In Exile came together in just six months, and after its Cannes premiere (May 19, with Mick Jagger attending) it will be released on DVD in June. BBC Worldwide handles sales, and Universal Music Group is releasing the album this week with 10 never-released tracks. Was this project something the band had been wanting to do for a while? Mick had mentioned it was always something he had in the back of his mind, there should always be a film about Exile. It does tie into the fact that they are re-releasing the album. It’s a good moment to re-examine the record and that period of time. How much new footage was shot? It’s mostly archival, and that was great way to work. There’s not a talking head in the whole thing, except a few very brief interviews with fans of the album. We wanted to dip people right into this time-travel trip, you are really in the ‘70s. I conducted a new string of interviews with everybody, back at the studios, and Grant Gee and I ran around filming stuff, Robert Frank style. We really to make a homage to the prime source material, which was Robert Frank’s Cocksucker Blues. We wanted to orbit that aesthetic. We filled in things here and there. But it’s mostly archive. Everything we shot was on 16mm, on the old Canon just like Robert Frank used. We wanted it really to all feel the same. There’s a hint of the contemporary Stones in there but it’s more of a nostalgic sort of vibe. How exciting was it to get your hands on that archive material? In their mysterious film vault outside of London in an unnamed location, they had all the outtakes from Cocksucker Blues. I had access to about 20 or 30 reels. It was so much cool stuff to look at, and we used a lot of it. Frank had filmed enough around the concert, backstage, on the road, homes, houses, he really created a rounded world, he filled in all the blanks. We just used it and found ways to repurpose it and use it to tell our story, in cooperation with Dominique Tarle, the photographer who was down in the Villa with them that whole summer. He was another big collaborator, his photos really tell the story of that summer in that house. That was a huge visual resource at our disposal. How collaborative was the filmmaking with the band? They were really involved. Mick would pop into the edit. They were very involved, and Keith would have to sign off on stuff. For all that, for all the control they might have of their careers, we got away with it. We made a really weird, unconventional film that flickers and shakes and is all made of old film. It’s a really cool, grungy aesthetic. It was a risk and they backed it 100%, and that is extraordinary. Was there a lot of debate? That’s the process, there is always a back and forth about this shot, that shot, why she’s in it, why she’s not, nothing out of the ordinary. This is how you make a film, there’s a lot of cooks in the kitchen, but I think with a great producer and rational people involved we got the film we wanted to make. I know I got the film I wanted to make. Granted, I wish it could have been about two and half hours long because there were so many goodies I wanted to keep on the screen. But it’s an hour, we had to make some painful editorial decisions like you always do. Was it strange being more of a director for hire after a labour of love like Scott Walker? Are you kidding? It was awesome. “Hi, we’re the Rolling Stones and we’d like you to make a film for us.” My god, yes. It’s a dream come true. You get into this deep well of musical history of images and sounds and stories, it was really the perfect next thing for me to do after my five-year-long labour of love. This was the perfect antidote to that, we did it in about six months. It was: Here’s the budget, here’s the producer, go. But you can make it personal. For me it’s about process, I’m very interested in process. I love how musicians create stuff. It’s an album but it’s also this incredibly legacy … it just goes beyond the music on the record. It’s the whole myth of it, that’s just great to work with. Will non-Stones fans appreciate this film? What we tried to do it take it back to that place. It’s really about them in that time, in that period, being the coolest people on the earth, looking gorgeous, living in the south of France. Before the stadium tours and all that stuff, there was a real edge there, they were the rebels yet they were also the biggest band in the world. You don’t get rock stars like that anymore, sadly, I don’t know if there ever can be. Screen Daily Kijak says 'Stones In Exile' is an hour long. If the info on the Eagle Rock release is correct, there'll be another hour and a half's worth of stuff on their DVD. Wonder if any of those "painful editorial decisions" will be included... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 16th, 2010 at 12:55pm
61 minutes ? Huh...the plot thickens...
So far for "Stones in Exile" we have : 1. DVD in Deluxe Set : 30 (or 10 minutes) 2. TV Broadcast : 40 minutes on US TV (or 60 minutes on Dutch TV ?) 3. DVD to appear in June : 151 minutes per Amazon, but movis is 61 minutes... All variations on the "Steven Kijek" movie I suppose ? So it seems the whole movie may have been shown on Dutch TV (currently availailable on Demon**d) ? Wouldn't be a premiere in Cannes then ?! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 16th, 2010 at 1:03pm "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" was advertising their broadcast as the premiere. It was also privately screened at MoMA earlier in the week. So maybe Cannes is the theatrical premiere. Whatever. I'll watch the Fallon show a couple more times and grab the DVD next month... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 16th, 2010 at 1:08pm gotdablouse wrote on May 16th, 2010 at 11:21am:
No. The Dunn Brothers would all be a lot older than that (in their 60's). That's the same guy who usually does Mick's bodyguard when he's on tour or at various public events etc. He's the main reason why GTRM and myself didnt get a pic of Mick at that hotel in Madrid in 2007!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 16th, 2010 at 1:14pm
I thought the "Fallon" week came off pretty well overall. Will it be enough of a lift to make the reissue a success? I have my doubts. But they put the promotion machine on full tilt, got loads of media hits (at least in the legacy media) — with the exception of playing live, they've done everything that can be done.
All the attention being paid to "Exile" reminded me one of the (many) things I love about being a Stones fans. "Exile" is the ultimate album for rock connoisseurs. It's true underground shit. As massively popular as the Stones are, they never sold as many albums as the Beatles, Simon & Garfunkel, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, etc. So, on the one hand, you get to see this culturally iconic band play lots of "hits" football stadiums; but on the other, with a deep catalogue that's more or less unknown (or least underappreciated), they maintain a sort of punk rock allure... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 16th, 2010 at 1:19pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 16th, 2010 at 1:27pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 16th, 2010 at 8:09am:
Great shit. Remember when we'd slap a record on and sit in front of the "record player," staring at the album cover? I even used to transcribe the lyrics to paper in my own shorthand and then later write them out neatly and staple them together, making my own "lyric sheet." :aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 16th, 2010 at 1:28pm
Good news, here it is doing more than OK, yesterday I bought mine and there was other guy buying it along with the new Hendrix editions of his first three albums and "Valleys of Neptune" so I asked the store manager about the Exile sales and he told me "today was the first day and I only have two more copies" we sold a lot, I don't know the number"
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 16th, 2010 at 1:32pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 16th, 2010 at 2:10pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on May 16th, 2010 at 2:19pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 16th, 2010 at 3:28pm
Target for the bonus disc only release and best buy for the interview disc...
$30... hmmm... not a bad deal, then drop another $20 in june for the DVD... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 16th, 2010 at 7:07pm
almost there
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 16th, 2010 at 7:43pm
I defy anyone not to start loosing their effin minds at around the 2:20 mark of Good Time Woman...the boys be jammin!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 16th, 2010 at 7:52pm
I'm on autopilot now
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Deathgod on May 16th, 2010 at 8:22pm
love the little bzzzzzzzzzzz in Loving Cup
best.band.ever :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 16th, 2010 at 9:11pm
According to WIKI,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Black_Angel Sweet Black Angel was recorded in LA...not in France... How accurate is this and were there any other songs from EOM not recorded at Nellcote...apologies if this was covered prior...and for my newbie-ish questions |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 16th, 2010 at 9:15pm
According to UPS
Status: In Transit Scheduled Delivery Date: 05/17/2010 (Updated) 05/18/2010 (Original) Shipped To: SANTA MARIA, CA, US Shipped/Billed On: 05/14/2010 Type: Package Service: GROUND Weight: 6.00 Lbs Oh Yes!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 17th, 2010 at 12:04am
I've been on the fence about ordering that juicy box set. I think I'll head to Amazon in the morning and order it up, and hit the record shop tuesday and get a cd set to tide me over until the vinyl arrives with the book and I can zone out with it.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 17th, 2010 at 12:16am Does anyone know how I can just get the booklet that comes with this package? There are some scans in their (like the "Tumbling Dice" poster) that I absolutely MUST have. Thankyavurrymuch. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 17th, 2010 at 12:19am Steel Wheels wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 12:04am:
Follow your heart, kid. Things like this only come around once in a lifetime - especially if you don't have the original album on vinyl. Go big! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by parachuteman on May 17th, 2010 at 1:18am
I WON!!!
Q107 in Toronto had an exile contest, I had my whole family entering ballots and we won 3 of the 20 remastered exile CDs (wish it was the super deluxe!). Of the 20 winners, one grand prize winner (me?) wins a trip to be "exiled" to quebec to live in a nellcote-esque french mansion for a weekend i think, as well as the entire stones catalogue on cd! The draw is later today, can't wait Also, Q107 had their stones by request weekend and they played at least half of the new tracks. i remember hearing plundered, following, good time, so devine, dancing, and loving cup outtake. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 17th, 2010 at 1:59am parachuteman wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 1:18am:
VERY COOL! Ya lucky bastid, ya! Good on ya! :willya :booze |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 17th, 2010 at 5:28am
Only spaces and line feeds is not considered a useful contribution!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 17th, 2010 at 6:48am Paranoid Android wrote on May 16th, 2010 at 9:11pm:
Most of the vocal tracks were done in LA, as were some overdubs by Mick and Keith and obviously the work by the session musicians (Al Perkins, Bill Plummer, the backing vocals, etc) As for the basic tracks - the only songs on the 18-track original album that were cut at Nellcote were (as far as I know) Rocks Off, Rip This Joint, Casino Boogie, Tumbling Dice, Torn & Frayed, Happy, Loving Cup, Turd On The Run, Ventilator Blues, Just wanna see his face, Let It Loose, All Down The Line and Soul Survivor. Shake Your Hips, Sweet Virginia, Sweet Black Angel (under a previous title of Bent Green Needles, which was an instrumental backing track), Stop Breaking Down and Shine A Light all pre-date Nellcote and had extra vocals and instruments added in LA. There are bootleg takes of all five in circulation - they're very close to the released versions and are minus a few overdubs for the most part. There are no outtakes from the Nellcote basic tracks mentioned above in circulation. (there is an alternate take of 'All Down The Line' but it's from no later than 1970 and the alternate 'Loving Cup' is from 1969) Of the new songs, Aladdin Story, Dancing In The Light, Good Time Women are all probably from 1970. The first two circulate on bootlegs as instrumentals, although they're a bit different to the basic tracks that are on the new Exile (they're also both shorter). The version of Good Time Women that was bootlegged seems to be the same version that's just been released. The version of Loving Cup is a bit of an oddity. It seems to be a composite of various takes as part of it sounds the same as the 1969 outtake that has been in circulation for some time, but other parts sound new. I'm not saying there are new overdubs on it, I just think it's been edited together from various takes from around 1969-70. Plunder My Soul, Pass The Wine, Following The River all seem to be from Nellcote but were unfinished, hence the overdubs. I'm not sure about Title 5 - it just sounds so untypical of the Stones that part of me thinks it could be from the same 1970 sessions that produced the much-bootlegged instrumentals that ended up on the Trident Mixes (Aladdin Story, dancing in the light, Potted shrimp. etc) The alternate version of Soul Survivor seems to be a Nellcote outtake with 'dummy' lyrics. Musically its very close to the Exile version and is probably the same take - so I presume Mick rewrote the lyrics, and added his and the backing vocals etc pretty late in the proceedings in LA. I Ain't Signifying is probably from Nellcote. There's been a bootlegged take of this in circulation for a few years and it appears to be the only outtake from Nellcote that has been bootlegged. It's less finished however than the one thats on the new album. The fact that there's a harmonica overdub on the released version (as well as a circulating alternate take) gives me the impression that this song was also finished in LA and was probably very close to being included on the original album. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 17th, 2010 at 7:26am
Excellent write-up! Wonder what happened to Potted Shrimp, that would have been a good one to add vocals to, maybe Mick got tired or maybe it was from GHS...or maybe it's a Taylor song, not that it stopped them in the past...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 17th, 2010 at 8:31am
Any ideas where should I go to buy it at midnight in the Atlanta area?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 17th, 2010 at 8:40am Some Guy wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 8:31am:
My garage?......good luck bud! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 17th, 2010 at 9:40am Some Guy wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 8:31am:
Circuit City |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 17th, 2010 at 10:12am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 9:40am:
dude |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 17th, 2010 at 10:25am Looks like there's already a few people waiting... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 17th, 2010 at 10:46am gotdablouse wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 7:26am:
'Potted Shrimp' seems to be from 1970 too. Its certainly not a GHS outtake, because the 'Bell Sound Demos'/'Trident Mixes' reel that its from was 'found' in November 1972, just before the Stones started recording GHS. I should have added above that there IS one other circulating outtake that is probably totally or mostly from Nellcote - an instrumental backing track of 'Let It Loose'. The fact that its from the same reel of tapes that the other Exile alternate takes from 1969-70 are on (Stop Breaking Down, Sweet Virginia et al) and that those takes come from different sessions make me think that maybe they all 'leaked' from a source at Sunset Sound and come from a collection of backing tracks that were being prepared for an overdub session. Maybe thats how 'I'm Not Signifying' got booted as well. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by parachuteman on May 17th, 2010 at 11:13am Gazza wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 6:48am:
I thought I heard Mick say the harmonica overdub is new, similar to the way he added vocals to other songs. Was I Ain't Signifying completely finished in LA and then Mick just added in the harmonica? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 17th, 2010 at 2:28pm Dominique Tarle, Andy Johns and John Von Hamersvelt discuss the Rolling Stones' 'Exile On Main St.' May 17, 11:46 AM By Phyllis Pollack © John Von Hamersveld/ Post-Future.com At Sunset Sound. The reissue of Rolling Stones' Exile On Main St. will be released on May 18, 2010, in varying configurations by Universal Music Enterprises, with its most coveted version a $170.08 super deluxe edition that includes a vinyl version of the album, its ten bonus tracks, a hardbound book, replicated collectors' postcards, and a DVD including footage from Stones in Exile, the upcoming Stephen Kijak documentary about the making of the epic album, which arrives in stores on June 22, 2010. Collectors' box sets, signed by the band, will be available for $2,000.00 to $2,500.00. The DVD is a beautifully edited work that features commentary from Jagger, Richards, Taylor, Wyman, Watts and others, discussing the recording of Exile. There are captivating photos and video of the band, both at work and at play. As the story of Exile begins to unfold, how can one not hit rewind to once again get another look at Richards in his Chuck Berry T-shirt? For those to whom it matters, the reissue of Exile and the imminent release of the Stones in Exile DVD have managed to become more of an event than an album release. Once, all of this was just about the stunning original eighteen tracks on Exile and its original artwork released on May 12, 1972. The late Jimmy Miller, who produced Exile, worked on the album with studio wizard Andy Johns, compiling the landmark masterpiece. Exile was not an easy record to record by any means, for dozens of reasons. Johns told me regarding Exile, “I’m still really, really proud of it. Yet it was a real traumatic thing. I was just a kid. I was maybe 21. And it took eleven months. We spent six months working in France at Keith’s house there, at Nellcote.” The band had left England to live in France, in tax exile. Jagger is among the band members that address the tax situation in the reissue package’s DVD Stones in Exile, saying, “That’s why I had to leave. Simple.” No one in the band was thrilled about having to go to France. Additionally, there was no suitable recording studio there. The band would resort to recording in the basement of Keith’s house there. Subsequently, The Stones enlisted a mobile studio in a truck parked outside, which was later immortalized in Deep Purple's track "Smoke On The Water." In the midst of various electrical problems, Stones crew members illegally wired the electricity, so that it would bypass the meter at the house, and instead of using their own electricity, the power that was generated and that was used in the house and in the truck's mobile studio came from a nearby railway, where the crew had hooked the line coming into the house. The band worked relentlessly. In Stones in Exile, Anita Pallenberg describes the recording of the album as “a labor of love.” Perhaps Richards worded it best in the film, saying of the process, “I just want to make music, and see how sounds are made. How do you transmit that feeling, and it actually comes back out and touches people. It’s the mystery of my life, and I’m still following it.” In an interview, Johns told me the process was grueling. “It was pretty bizarre. It was right on the Mediterranean. I had never seen anywhere else besides England. I was just a kid. We worked in the basement. It was a real struggle getting a sound. Everything took so long. Get there at six every day. We were supposed to start working at six.” Johns recalled, “Keith would quite often show up playing, and everyone else would show up maybe at about ten, eleven or midnight. Sometimes we’d do a basic track for like a week. 300 or 400 takes.” According to Johns, at one point, Richards spent six hours, just playing the reprise to “Tumbling Dice” for six hours. Almost four decades later, Don Was would be given 300 hours of tape to sort through to assemble the reissue package. With the band having left England for the south of France, the atmosphere was far from secluded. Says Johns of the upstairs at Villa Nellcote, “It was pretty bizarre stuff. Weird people hanging around. Very weird people hanging around,” he said, with his eyes getting bigger. As Jagger indicates in Stones in Exile, “The lifestyle starts to choose you, and that’s the problem.” Johns explained, “Then we came over to America and finished it at Sunset Sound here in Los Angeles. I’d only been over here a couple times before. Then I moved to L.A. in ’75. Been here ever since.” Listening to Exile still brings memories back to Johns, via musical flashbacks. “I do remember one very specific circumstance,” says Johns. “My favorite song on the album is 'Rocks Off.' I’ll never forget. Keith would sort of go to sleep ... Put it like that.” Johns continues, “It was about six in the morning. Me and Jim Pierce had this huge villa in Monte Carlo, and Keith would just ... go to sleep. You know what it was like.” Johns is quiet for a moment. “And it was like, I’m on the phone saying, ‘Where’s Keith? Where the f*&^ are you?’ I’d say, ‘Keith, man, we’re with Mick. Come back here immediately.” Sounding in awe, Johns continues, “After ten or twenty minutes, Keith came back and put this straight-ahead rhythm part, so the song went from working really well to ... being for me, out of all the rock and roll songs I’ve ever done, just the time and the feeling is so comfortable, and I’ve always been searching for feel again, if it’s even possible. The way it came out just blew me away.” Johns’ reverence of Richards permeates the room as he reflects, “I think of all the people I’ve worked with, all the heroes, you know, they’re all just people. But Keith, he’s still f******* Keith. Keith is still like ... Keith Richards.” Awestruck, sounding as if he has been blown away by a feather, Johns says, “It’s weird.” Dominique Tarle was the official photographer for The Stones during the recording of Exile On Main St. With camera in hand, he documented the band’s life while they lived at Nellcote, both upstairs, where the band was housed, the living room, kitchen, the outside property, and the infamous basement where the album was recorded. Many of Tarle’s shots taken at the Villa Nellcote can be seen in the reissue package’s documentary film, Stones in Exile. In a rare interview, Tarle stated to me that when the band finished recording the album, the hype surrounding The Stones was just all the gossip, and the fascination people had with the trappings that come with The Stones, rather than what had even been recorded from Exile. Music critics of the day would even simply dismiss Exile. Much of the public, as well as many of the fans, were solely interested in or entranced by whatever sort of scandal might have surrounded the band. Tarle confirmed this when he told me, “When I came back from Nellcote, when I got all the negatives and the pictures together, since I didn’t work for a magazine or an agency, I started getting in touch with the French press. I found myself very quickly at the time in the mid seventies, I found myself illustrating articles that were the opposite of my pictures. Do you know what I mean? The articles were about sex, drugs, rock and roll and violence. None of it was about the family life, the children and everything. I thought it was completely ridiculous for me to use this kind of pictures to illustrate this kind of bullshit. So I just put the pictures in a box, down in the cellar. I felt I could do something better with my time than illustrating this kind of bulls*&%.” Tarle became an insider, as well as a witness to history, holed up with the band for an extended period of time. He explained to me, “I stayed at Ville Nellcote for something like six months, as simple as that.” Tarle was acutely aware that his pictures were something far more than just publicity shots of a rock and roll band. Tarle described his feelings to me succinctly, saying, “It was stronger; maybe it was a little a piece of history.” Part of Tarle’s documented history includes his photos of Richards with the late Gram Parsons, who came to France to hang out with Keith. Tarle told me, “Gram Parsons was around, and he was playing and singing with Keith all day long, and a journalist asked Keith, ‘Did Gram play on Exile?’ and Keith’s answer was, ‘Gram is on Exile in spirit.’ And that’s what I feel about everybody around the band at the time, Anita Pallenberg, and all the technicians, and the friends. I think it’s a very peculiar album, because for once in their lifetime, The Stones were all staying in the same neighborhood. They didn’t know anybody. The only people they knew were also members of the band.” That said, a few friends did come to visit, including John Lennon and Eric Clapton. Mick Taylor was the perfect fit for Exile. Tarle commented to me, “I think it was a very strange period of time, because for many years, The Stones could not play in America because of Brian Jones, because Brian could not get a green card, or something like that. So they fired Brian, who died a few weeks later, while they were working with a new guitar player, and then they left the record company to create their own record company to work with new people, with a different target. They had to start from nothing again. And at this time, Keith and Gram were so close, that on one side, Mick was trying to get the band as efficient as possible, so that they could be able to go back on tour in the U.S. And each time Mick came down to Ville Nellcote, he saw Keith and Gram singing and playing together, and they were really, really ready to record. It was perfect, you know? I never heard anything like it before or after.” No known tapes exist of these musical exchanges. Jagger explains in Stones in Exile that the entire band was fascinated by so many genres of music. Tarle remembers Charlie Watts playing jazz, and Richards playing standards on piano. Richards and Parsons related musically on different levels. Said Tarle, “Yeah, yeah. A mix of some very old country songs, but they were approaching so many different kinds of music. But I think that Mick was a little bit afraid that if those two guys decided to record an album together, then they would have to promote the album, to go on tour, you know. The Stones who had just recovered from the fact that they could not play in The States, and all this work trying to get the band efficient again after all those years, all this work would go down the drain. And if those two did record what they were playing, and went to promote it, too, The Stones would be waiting for another couple of years or two, and of course, Mick knew The Stones could not afford it.” A Richards/Parsons collaboration would never happen. Parsons would die of a drug overdose on September 19, 1973, setting off the highly publicized body-snatching and torching incident, at the hand of Parson’s friend Michael Kaufman and manager Phil Kaufman. The two enacted their plan in an effort to grant Parsons his wish of not being buried in Louisiana. Photos of Parsons and Richards taken by Tarle at Nellcote are seen in the Stones in Exile DVD. If what comes in the box set is not enough, some of Tarle’s Exile period photos shot at Villa Nellcote are available for purchase from the San Francisco Art Exchange. The 19th century mansion Villa Nellcote, located in Villefranche-sur-Mer in the Côte d'Azur area, had a history that was not always graced by the likes of the “Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World” recording one of the greatest rock and roll albums of all time. According to Richards, the house had served as "the Gestapo headquarters during the war," explaining why the floor vents in the basement were decorated with swastikas. In one passage of the book about the basement, titled Exile On Main St., published by Genesis, Tarle remembers, "I found a box down there with a big swastika on it, full of injection phials. They all contained morphine. It was very old, of course, and our first reaction was, ‘If Keith had found this box ...’ So one night we carried it to the end of the garden, and threw it into the sea." In an interview for Goldmine Magazine, Johns had told noted Rolling Stones scholar and author of Laurel Canyon of Dreams: The Magic and the Music of Laurel Canyon Harvey Kubernik, “As far as microphones on hand I had the normal standard stuff. Some Neumanns, Shures, Beyers. The mikes were OK. It was just these rooms were a bit weird. Plus it had been a torture chamber during World War II. The villa was a local Gestapo headquarters when the Nazis occupied France. I didn’t notice that until we’d been there for a while and the floor heating vents in the hallway were shaped like swastikas. Gold swastikas. And I said to Keith, ‘What the f*** is that?’ ‘Oh, I never told you. This was the headquarters.’ So I guess downstairs they used to do all this dreadful shit. That’s where fires would start, the electricity would go on and off. There was just a very strange vibe down there. There were a lot of people always drifting around.” Among the adventures memorialized in Tarle’s book, Richards buried his Tuinals to hide them from the police when he crashed his car. "I spun a yarn about this mysterious Ferrari with Yugoslavian plates," Richards would later explain in 1990, when describing that encounter with law enforcement. Despite such accounts, two of those who had visited Nellcote and were interviewed in his book credit Richards with intentionally dissuading them from ever using heroin. For the mainstream media, tales of heroin chic were a centerpiece of its fascination with the band. John Von Hamersveld, who designed the original Exile On Main St. album cover artwork and the album’s inside fold-out, made an unglamorous fashion statement when creating the look for the esteemed album. It was unglamorous, yet strikingly hip. As Kubernik noted in Goldmine, the artwork was punk before punk existed, in a not entirely post-pyschedelic era, no less. The album cover exudes kind of a freak show, and perhaps in a way, it was quite appropriate, given the circus atmosphere that sometimes surrounded The Stones. In his book My Art, My Life, Von Hamersvelt wrote, "The cover is covered with a collage of Frank's (Robert Frank) photos, the most memorable of which are of sideshow freaks and the wall of a tattoo parlor. These black and white images, along with blurry, gritty current photos of the band, also shot by Frank, represented the underbelly of society and The Stones themselves. The title of the album, rather than being typeset, was hand scrawled by Mick Jagger. It was a call to arms to all "freaks;" collectively they were reclaiming the packaging of rock and roll, and in so doing had set the stage for visual mayhem.” So striking was the image of Exile that former Sex Pistol John Lydon gave his tip of the hat to Von Hamersveld in 1984. Said Lydon, "The Stones' Exile package set the image of punk. We used the graphic feel to communicate our message." Even the Sex Pistols were not without their own cover and poster designer. Things would eventually lead to the entree of Jamie Reed, an unknown with a situations background. It is noted that when asked by Sex Pistols' manager Malcolm McLaren to provide some artwork for the band's recordings, he would provide a punch with "ransom note" lettering (referring to the cut and paste mixing of type styles typically used for ransom notes). The cover of the Sex Pistols' debut album, with its combination of day-glo colors and ransom note lettering, is to punk rock what Von Hamersveld's 1966 Endless Summer movie poster had been to surfing. A large billboard promoting the album was placed at in Los Angeles the top of La Cienega and Sunset. In an exchange with me, Von Hamersvelt elaborated, “I changed the measurement of the billboard to make it larger. Pacific Outdoor took my design detail and created this huge image. Once it was painted and installed it seems that Robert Frank and Danny Seymour came by took a shot of it with their cinema camera and later added it to Cocks*cker Blues.” The Stones gave Von Hamersveld the license to do whatever he wanted when it came to the design of the album. He noted, “Marshall (Chess) and I made our deal and I just did my thing, I was free to do what I want with the photo and ad color and do my Endless Summer treatment. I was doing a lot of handwriting on album covers. But I let Jagger write the type in his hand rather then setting in mechanical type.” Who were all these people in the images, in addition to the likes of Joan Crawford? He commented, “Between Robert Frank pics from the Americans photo book, and taking The Stones down to L.A.’s Main Street, shooting with his movie camera, I took a few pics and added them to fill out and credit area to balance the collage.” He adds, “Chris Odell, Jagger's secretary I knew from London, and Marshall were on the back cover.” Von Hamersvelt remembers, “The package cost $1.35 per unit. A single cover at the time would cost 92 cents.” Seeing Von Hamersveld’s artwork, the way it was originally created for Exile, is one of the advantages of purchasing the upcoming reissue on vinyl, for those who do not already own Exile's original incarnation. Not surprisingly, when it comes to sound, Keith Richards, who cites Exile On Main St. and Beggars Banquet as his favorite album covers, prefers vinyl to CD. examiner.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 17th, 2010 at 3:32pm
I left the office early today to knock out yard work. I will not be in the office the next 2 days, I will be in seclusion. Early to bed and early to rise.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 17th, 2010 at 8:50pm
sweet dreams my little Stonesdumplings.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 17th, 2010 at 9:32pm
It's only 7:32
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 17th, 2010 at 9:48pm
So Mick just mentioned on the WMMR interview that M.Taylor was flown in for guitar work in Paris for Plundered My Soul.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 17th, 2010 at 9:58pm
I've been in Exile recently and haven't kept up with the latest. I've taken tonight to take in all of this wonderful Exile goodness.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by scotmw65 on May 17th, 2010 at 10:55pm
I was hoping someone could tell me the instrumental that the Stones jam on in the Montreaux video?I assumed this would be on the reissue since it is such a great song.I think it is either "blueberry Jam"or "potted Shrimp",please help me out.I can't believe this is not on the reissue,same as "Travlin Man".Thanks
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 17th, 2010 at 11:07pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by scotmw65 on May 17th, 2010 at 11:20pm
That's the one!!!It mustn't be original,maybe that's why it's not included.Thanks for the help.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on May 17th, 2010 at 11:26pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 11:07pm:
Amazing. Made me want to start smoking again. So loose and connected at the same time. Charlie was in the zone. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 18th, 2010 at 2:16am Steel Wheels wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 9:48pm:
Ah, back at Guillaume Tell studios in Paris like in 2002 ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 18th, 2010 at 6:12am scotmw65 wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 11:20pm:
that Montreux session was a tour rehearsal. It had nothing to do with Exile. It wouldnt have been included on Exile because it (almost certainly) wasnt recorded for the album. Its just a jam session recorded at a tour rehearsal a few days AFTER Exile came out. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 6:26am
Today is the day the Lord has made let us be glad and rejoice.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 18th, 2010 at 6:31am
I cannot wait to get my mits on this.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 18th, 2010 at 6:48am
From Music Week:
"The Rolling Stones’ revamped Exile On Main Street is looking to pull off the rare feat of a catalogue title topping the UK albums chart after opening up a narrow sales lead over Faithless. The re-issued Polydor album, which adds an additional 10 tracks to the original 1972 set, is currently around 1,600 sales ahead of the newly-issued Faithless album The Dance, with DFA/Parlophone’s LCD Soundsystem completing a top three of new entries. If the Stones do hold on to the top spot by the end of the week, Polydor and the band would have pulled off a very rare chart achievement. Although catalogue titles have topped the singles chart on numerous occasions, it is very unusual for a catalogue release to reach number one on the albums chart outside of best of sets, although it has happened before. T Rex’s first two 1968-issued albums, Prophets, Seers And Sages The Angels Of The Ages, and My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair But Now They’re Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows, reached number one in May 1972 in a double package. Coincidently, a month after T Rex made number one, Exile On Main Street hit the top during its original release. More recently, the Traveling Wilburys' two albums were united as Collection, which reached number one in June 2007." :wow |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 18th, 2010 at 6:50am
Wow, a #1 ! This is going to have Mick pumped for more "Remasters" packages, good for the outtakes ;-)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 18th, 2010 at 7:37am
Would have been nice to hear their take on 32-20 Blues.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 18th, 2010 at 8:00am
all i know is, the success of this hopefully means we get more...
I have a list of stuff i'd love to see bonused onto SF's through Some Girls... and I def. want an official release of Think I'm Going Mad on CD. with that said... i'm bummed we didn't get the 45 mix of ADTL... and seems there's a bunch of updated mixes of some other cuts on the documentary, that could've/should've made it to the bonus disc... I don't want to forget, how awsome it is, they put the time and money into doing this... it is an investment of time and money, and Jagger could've just not done it, and his life would still be that of Mick "effin" Jagger... and he wouldn't be having to run around prmoting this as well... They are working... gotta give em' that... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 8:06am
I'm ready to roll!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 8:06am
Best Buy opens in an hour!!!! :weed
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 18th, 2010 at 8:11am The Rolling Stones' Exile on Main Street: hell that spawned a classic The making of the Rolling Stones’s Exile on Main Street is a rock legend. But what really happened in those long weeks of 1971? Neil McCormick looks back at a drug-fuelled marathon that still haunts the Côte d’Azur. By Neil McCormick Published: 11:36AM BST 18 May 2010 Rolling Stones at Villa Nellcote: 'Jam sessions went on for days, with songs that were never finished' The Rolling Stones’s Exile On Main Street is an album so shrouded in myth it practically defines the bohemian, decadent, counter-culture appeal of Seventies rock ’n’ roll. It is wild, electric music played by narcotic demigods with one foot in the 20th century and the other in some ancient, mystic swamp of steamy, primal passion. From the freak show photo montage on the original gatefold cover to the four sides of black vinyl crammed with a weird concoction of ragged r&b, country, soul and gospel, this was a voodoo jam from a band of outlaw rockers on the run. The myth goes something like this: It was 1971. The greatest rock ’n’ roll band in the world were forced into exile, chased away from Britain by Labour’s 93 per cent tax on the rich (and the revelation that their accountants hadn’t been paying it). Desperate, they decamped to the south of France, where the heroin-addicted Keith Richards set up a studio in the basement of the rented Villa Nellcote. A dizzying cast of characters passed through the doors and passed out beneath the chandeliers of the 16-bedroom former Nazi stronghold, including film stars (James Caan, Faye Dunaway), musicians (Gram Parsons, Bobby Keys, Nicky Hopkins), cult novelists (William Burroughs, Terry Southern) and an endless parade of local Marseilles groupies, drug dealers and even a troupe of Bengali drummers. Richards and Mick Jagger weren’t getting on. Jagger was often absent, flitting to Paris with new bride Bianca (they married in May 1971 in Saint Tropez) and their jetset friends. Richards was operating on his own timescale, missing sessions for days on end in smack-addled stupors, or keeping the band jamming through the wee hours while he relentlessly worked over two chords. Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman dug deep into a well of patience and sent emissaries across the Channel to stock up on PG Tips and HP sauce. Baby-faced guitarist Mick Taylor slid into heroin addiction and alcoholism. The power supply was hot-wired from the national grid. The basement perspired dampness so instruments were constantly going out of tune. Jam sessions went on for days, with hundreds of takes of rambling songs that were never finished. It ended with a drug bust and Richards was banned from France for two years. But, miraculously, when the Stones decamped to Los Angeles to listen back to the tapes, they discovered they had captured something magical. Out of decadence and adversity came the Rolling Stones’ defining masterpiece. That is the story, anyway. The truth may or may not be more prosaic. Nobody is really sure, because there are – as in all the best legends – so many conflicting recollections. Jagger has always been a bit baffled by the album’s popularity with fans (perhaps because it is viewed as Richards’s baby) and has cast doubts on how much of the finished album was actually recorded in Nellcote, claiming sessions he oversaw in London and Hollywood were more productive. Richards stands by the story. “If you believe Mick, you’ll believe anything,” he spluttered in a recent interview. “His recollection is quite honestly bull----… He doesn’t feel he’s under any obligation to tell the truth.” A new BBC Two documentary, Stones In Exile, attempts to separate fact from fiction in the making of the album, but can chiefly be recommended for lots of pictures of the Stones at their most decadently cool. Potentially more damaging to the myth is Universal’s imminent release (on Monday) of the remastered album, with a bonus set featuring 10 tracks allegedly recorded during the Exile sessions. Watts claims these were mainly instrumental backing tracks to which Jagger has added new vocals. The result might be hailed as a return to form if billed as a new Stones album but it is far too clean, perfectly separated, bass-boosted and polished to pass muster with the original, with Jagger high and clear in the mix. “Lead singers never think their vocals are loud enough,” as Richards commented. The bonus disc reeks of 21st century air-conditioned luxury recording facilities, but go back to the original and you can practically smell the damp basement squalor. The start of the Seventies was a moment when rock paused to take stock, looking backwards after the futuristic charge of the Sixties. It was as if the Stones had time to reflect on all the great cultural waves of American music; all the blues and gospel and country influences they had instinctively absorbed suddenly pouring out in rip roaring jam sessions. At times it sounds like a brawl in a Harlem dance hall, with cheap liquor and twirling skirts, peppered with Bobby Keys’s wild tenor sax and Nicky Hopkins’s barrel house piano. Torn and Frayed is poor-boy white country music, with Gram Parsons filling Richards’s head with lyrical Southern licks. The influence of other musicians on Exile is profound but at its heart is Richards himself. It rides on his droning, electric mantras. If you want to know what it is that makes him so special, listen to the ever-shifting nuance of his hypnotic playing on Ventilator Blues, in which he bends every possible twist out of a two-chord trick. If you were to judge each track on its own merits, you might not find a lot to recommend it. But when you tuck into Exile, what you are getting is a flavour. The mixes are gluey and dense, inseparably stuck together, with everybody playing their socks off, solos weaving in and out, and Jagger shouting to be heard above the din. He has never sounded better, precisely because he is buried in the mix; part of the tapestry of the band rather than its focus. Taken as a piece, it is a hypnotic, gale-force, rock ’n’ roll album, an explosion of joyous abandon that has rarely been equalled. You might, if you look closely enough, be able to unravel the myths of its creation, but you can never unpick the magic of the music. Daily Telegraph |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 8:16am
:weed :-/ :weed
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 8:19am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 8:19am: [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 18th, 2010 at 8:21am
Egon and I are on our first run-through of the new songs.
We like it, like it, yes we do. Happy Exile Day, everyone! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 8:24am
May 18th 2010 a date which will live in infamy.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 18th, 2010 at 8:30am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 18th, 2010 at 9:14am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 8:30am: Very cool Lefty. :willya :booze :keithpunky |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 18th, 2010 at 9:47am
I can't believe I haven't decided this yet, but what's the consensus here on which package has the best value? Sounds like the super-deluxe isn't worth it, with the full DVDs coming out later. ...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 18th, 2010 at 10:05am
Yes, the DVD is useless : 11' summary of Stones in Exile, 12' summary of CS and 7' extract from L&G
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 18th, 2010 at 10:07am
I bought both.
If you like elaborate packaging or vinyl go super. (The book is fantastic btw!!!) Otherwise, go deluxe. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 18th, 2010 at 11:21am
i got the target fan pack with the rarities disc and tee shirt and guitar pick...
oddly the CR case, is made for two discs... I downloaded the remaster off demonoid... tell you the truth, I wanted to see if it was better than my 94, before or even if i plunk the cash down... i had flacs of the extras, so maybe i just wanted a new shirt.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 18th, 2010 at 11:34am
Thx.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 18th, 2010 at 11:49am
Exile #5 and rising on Itunes..43 reviews and 100% of them are 5 star!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on May 18th, 2010 at 12:43pm
I have a very big question. Why cannot we get the unreleased tracks on vinyl???
Its just WRONGO imo sulk, |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 18th, 2010 at 2:41pm Pdog wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 11:21am:
I discovered that those FLACS are not legit, or at the very least poorly ripped and converted. The sound on those compared to the actual release is quite bad. I put the new one on and it just blew those away. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 2:49pm
Just got the 2- disc thingy at Best Buy, $19.99 on sale, with the bonus interview disc, which is what you'd expect it to be: usual stories/raps, fun to hear Bill being his usual wise-guy self and Charlie being...Charlie.
Listening to 'Loving Cup' now- different take from the famous boot from the 'Honkey Tonk Women' sessions. So far this thing is perfect- just perfect. Exceding my expectations by light years.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on May 18th, 2010 at 2:50pm
I would like the unreleased tracks to be on vinyl.
Can anyone confirm that the deluxe package vinyl lp also has the previously unreleased tracks or not? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 18th, 2010 at 2:52pm
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 2:52pm
'Soul Survivor' with Keef scratch-vocal definitely a different instrumental take. Very subtle, but I'm pretty sure it's different (i.e. some of Charlie's fills)...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 3:02pm
'Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren)'- what a funky and authentic New Orleans second-line number!
Horns could be a bit louder, but, damn, what a joyous sound. Too short, though! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 3:12pm
'Plundered My Soul'- years ago, my brother and I were tuning my drums for a crummy little basement 4-track recording, and we were trying to cop Charlie's sound ("just bash 'em 'til they go out of tune"), and he had this description of Watts' kick drum sound from the late '60's-mid '70's:
"It's like a fat man plopping himself down in a nice, comfy easy-chair". Damn straight. Again, the horns could be a tad louder... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 18th, 2010 at 3:18pm Mr. Yeats wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 2:52pm:
I hear it too. And there are horns in Keith's version. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 3:26pm
'I'm Not Signifying'- That's right.
Now that's the way to record a horn section: dig Price's trumpet rolls (what's the technical term?). And my own description of Charlies drum attack (especially his tom fills): "Like really big basketballs bouncing around the court". Never paid much attention to the 'I Ain't Lying' boot, but this cut kills! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gimme Shelter on May 18th, 2010 at 3:32pm
Just received my Deluxe Edition from UPS and I'm rocking out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf2
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 3:32pm
'Following the River'- convincing, short and sweet, Jagger's vocals are just fine, the strings work nicely.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 3:38pm
'Dancing in the Light'- so great to hear this with vocals after all these years of digging that "Trident Mixes" version (same for 'Aladin Story').
Don't even want to see a lyric sheet for at least 10 years- Jagger's vocals are just another instrument in the mix, it's true. What a groovey tune! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 18th, 2010 at 3:39pm
I was going to wait until after work to go buy it. But could'nt wait,so I went and bought it at lunch. Gonna rock my way through the afternoon. Hope thet don't expect much out of me at work this afternoon. Not that they ever do. But at least today I have a reason. :perverted
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 3:44pm
'So Divine'- always loved this track; seems Richards has put a new guitar track down (or just a different mix); always loved the Middle Eastern "Paint It Black" motif, and Bobby's elegant sax line. Weird phasing on the drums (or just a bad master tape? haha! Better get baking this old stuff before the tapes disintergrate, lads!).
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 4:00pm fuman wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 3:18pm:
Yup, shoulda kept the horns on the proper version. But I might have to stand corrected about it being a different basic track: now I think it's just a tape edit of the same track- see Charlies fill at the 2:38 second mark. On the original he goes into a pounding floor-tom thing here, whereas in this version it's this cool snare/tom roll thingy. God, I love this crusty old stuff!!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 4:06pm
'Good Time Women'- this has been in my Stones top 50 or so for about 15 years now.
Though it's not as elegant and sexy as 'Tumbling Dice', it's got a great humorously randy vibe to it that just pulls you out to the dance floor, up to the bar or on to the bed! This is what we call Rock n' Roll Music. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Yeats on May 18th, 2010 at 4:19pm
'Title 5'- what is this?
Sounds like Mick Jones' guitar tone from The Clash's '79-'82 period! Wyman mixed so loud here, sort of acheives his live sound: a sort of saturated, mid-rangey, glue quality that holds Charlie and Keef together. Great atmosphere for such a slight throwaway. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 18th, 2010 at 5:45pm
it's all good
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 18th, 2010 at 5:56pm buddhabone wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 2:41pm:
did you DL the DVD version or just the 2 disc version...? I may need to go get the single disc remaster myself now... just to have a good version to a/b to my 1994... anyone like the mastering of the 2010 over the 1994? anyone here actually give a shit about mastering... haha!!! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 18th, 2010 at 5:56pm
Anyone notice how much the credits for the original album differ from those on the new version. Quite a few discrepancies, the most glaring of which are the credits for 'Happy' - they seem to have listed the credits for 'Sway' or something instead ('Paul Buckmaster/Strings'. Eh?)
No mention of Sunset Sound studios in the list of locations either. And its still a bit vague as to where Taylor and Jagger did their overdubs (I'd read London and also Paris, but theres no mention of a studio in Paris and the only London studio mentioned is Olympic, where they recorded in 1969-70..didn't it close last year?) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 18th, 2010 at 6:03pm Pdog wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 5:56pm:
I had download the 2 disc version. I find the new to have a bit more volume, just a little improvement. None of the Universal remasters really improve much over 1994 versions. That's just my take on it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 18th, 2010 at 6:11pm Gazza wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 5:56pm:
Mick says it was "a little studio in London" in the Pierre Robert interview. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 18th, 2010 at 8:38pm
The colors are all wrong for the vinyl sleeve and inserts. Also the clarity isn't the same. Compared to the original, this looks horrible. The front and back covers to the book are cheap cardboard. The text inside the book is too small. Or I must need glasses. 4 postcards instead of 12??? Thanks.
But get me to talking about the audio qualities of the vinyl. Jesus my Lord in Heaven. What a beautiful gift!!!! This is the BEST sound I've ever heard from Exile, be it CD or the original vinyl. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 18th, 2010 at 8:47pm
Typo in the book has Sticky Fingers coming out in 1970.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 18th, 2010 at 9:30pm
For those interested there are only 10 copies available for the super-super-deluxe-plus Japanese box set
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-91557&ref=myp |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 19th, 2010 at 6:55am
email from Target...your order is delayed.....wtf??????? should have known better than to order from a store like that...anyone else?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 19th, 2010 at 6:59am
Best Buy is on back order for 1 to 2 weeks online. I called the stores in my area around 7pm last night since I had to wait to get a ride, and one store had one copy left. Got it. We have three big Best Buys within 15 miles of where I live, four more on the Missouri side. They flew out of the doors yesterday according to what the clerk told me.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 19th, 2010 at 9:23am gimmekeef wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 6:55am:
I noticed the same thing monday when I checked my order. But they gave me the option to cancel my order. So I did and just went to the store and bought it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 19th, 2010 at 9:33am sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 9:23am:
yes but I wanted the t shirt and guitar pick?...they have those at the stores? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 19th, 2010 at 9:51am
Yes...they are at the store...I got mine yesterday (w/o the t shirt) but they are all there...
They are on the same shelves as the single CD paks...everything is crammed into a small box about 4 inches deep. it took me about 5 minutes to find it since there was no large display or any fanfare of a sorts.. I could barely find the CD section as it was... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SweetVirginia on May 19th, 2010 at 9:52am
We saw the t-shirt/guitar pick set in a Target in suburban NY yesterday morning, but they only had a couple left. The stores did get a few, though. Good luck!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on May 19th, 2010 at 9:52am gotdablouse wrote on May 18th, 2010 at 2:52pm:
shit why the fkt not. (??) who's in charge ?? We need answers |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 19th, 2010 at 9:54am
stop by the bins at the front and get some Stones fridge magnet grocery lists and lips and tongue magnets.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 19th, 2010 at 9:57am Some Guy wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 9:54am:
I'll corner the market on everything I can ram into my cart.....Price check on Stones squirt guns aisle 3 please! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on May 19th, 2010 at 10:58am
I went to Target yesterday and picked up the rarities edition w/ t-shirt. That disc is smokin! My only gripe is they should've included more songs. I really like Keith's elegantly wasted version of SS! Now I just need the single EOM cd and I'm shitting in tall cotton for now. Can't wait to see the remastered version of L&G later this year
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Trey Krimsin on May 19th, 2010 at 9:16pm
I got the deluxe edition with the interview disc from Best Buy yesterday. I didn't get to play it yesterday because I had a busy day. Anyway, Today was a bit dreary here, so I felt I needed to give the CDs a spin. I really liked the new songs and the original album is still classic, maybe a little louder compared to the Virgin remaster.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 19th, 2010 at 9:52pm gimmekeef wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 6:55am:
Yep. I had four of them on pre-order and they're all delayed. I cancelled two and went on Amazon and got the big boy for $136. Fuck it, ya only live once. I still have two on order for friends. What a gyp! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 19th, 2010 at 10:14pm This is the SHIT. Thank God for The Rolling Stones! [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Kilroy on May 19th, 2010 at 11:23pm
Amazon messed up on my Deluxe order, So I took off work early and went to the Woolworth of 2010 Target, and went a little crazy.
I still need the Interview Extra from Best Buy. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 19th, 2010 at 11:55pm
This video is just sick. With all this reissue stuff, I feel like the rehearsal is going on now.
Rehearsing Shake Your Hips in Montreux. Look at Mick Taylor, Watts, and Wyman driving the rhythm. this is just insanely good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuKzEDnUUQ :wow :areyoufuckingserious :boring |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 20th, 2010 at 6:54am The Wick wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 11:55pm:
that's hot! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on May 20th, 2010 at 7:55am
"Stones in exile" just shown on Aussie tv. Well, yeah, it was ok. Went for 65mins. Seems very heavily cut - though i cant see it being a 3 hr dvd! There was a lot of new footage disguised as candid and Robert Frank footage. Some stuff was even from ABC Aussie tv show GTK from 73!.
Most glaring example of "new" (IE: pretend) footage was when the band went to Sunset Studios. They mentioned the backing singers coming in, and there is footage of 2 black singers around a mic. Well, fellas, that was filmed in 2010. They tried to make it 1972, but it wasnt. Apart from the fact the retro fashions just were not 100% accurate, the glaring fact is the actressess were NOT the real singers. Venetta Fields has lived in Oz since 1977, and she has a very distinctive profile. She wasnt in the footage! And think of it, why would anyone film backing singers? In 1972? And why would that footage exist in 2010? Well, it didnt. they made it up. And no mention of Dr. John. But biggest omition was any interview or band credit to Jim Price. From my readings of the EXILE sessions, Price was more or less responsible for much of the arrangements. EXILE is as much as his album as it is Keith's. But even more odd, is no mention AT ALLL of Billy Preston! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 20th, 2010 at 8:16am Kilroy wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 11:23pm:
Yeah, Kilroy, I'd say you went just a wee bit crazy. I always knew you were my kinda guy! [smiley=laugh.gif] Anyway, like I said, I got the super-deluxe package (which at $136 should blow yer nose, yer mind, and anything else yer imagination can come up with...and I can come up with a few...) - BUT, my two biggest complaints about the packaging are: 1. The obvious one, which is they should have given us the "new" releases on a vinyl disc as well as CD; and 2. They shoulda stuck a fuckin' CD case in there so you can carry the two discs around without resorting to using yer "Best of Joey Bagadonuts" case or whatever. I mean, I don't think a tiny little plastic case woulda broke the Stones bank. (I refuse to call them "jewel cases" - another example of trying to turn shit into gold in the music-buying public's "minds"). But that's just me. But hey, as a great man once said, 'WE MUST WIN GROSS!" |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 20th, 2010 at 8:36am
just saw "stones in exile"
fantastic mick at the olympic studios - "boring" - he sets out his distate for nostalgia and sentimentality (see where johnny lydon picked up some cues) but i got a fresh appreciation of how much of a wrench it must have been to move... no more HP sauce!! ...in the names of all the gods at once how did they survive!! ...bobby had the right attitude...st.tropez rocks - girls and drugs and rock and roll my only disappointment - "Let it Loose" didn't get a hearing |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by moy on May 20th, 2010 at 9:37am
Rolling Stones set to top British album charts for first time in 16 years
Re-release of 1972 classic Exile on Main Street wows fans all over again Alexandra Topping guardian.co.uk Wednesday 19 May 2010 21.00 BST Article history http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/may/19/rolling-stones-exile-on-main-street Mick Jagger attends a photocall for the documentary Stones in Exile at the Cannes film festival today. Photograph: Guillaume Horcajuelo/EPA You can't always get what you want, but if you wait 16 years, you just might get what you need… The Rolling Stones may find themselves back at the top of the album charts this weekend, bringing them their first number one album since 1994. The rereleased Exile on Main Street – which contains remixed tracks such as Rocks Off and Tumbling Dice – topped the midweek charts today. Martin Talbot, managing director of the Official Charts Company, said the Stones faced stiff competition from Faithless, whose album the Dance was only 1,000 copies behind, and might yet pip them to the post. But the reissue, which includes a mixture of unreleased outtakes and incomplete tracks, was proving attractive to Stones fans of a certain age, he said. "The Stones may not be at their creative peak any more, but this album is a reminder why they are legendary," he said. "It underlines everything that has made them a force to be reckoned with 40 years after they formed." The recording of Exile on Main Street is the stuff of rock'n'roll legend. Recorded in the early 1970s at the notorious Nellcôte, Keith Richards's luxury rented villa in the south of France, the album first went to number one in 1972. Hearing the testimonies of Mick Jagger, Richards, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts and Mick Taylor about that hedonistic period in 1971 – when the Stones abandoned the UK for France to avoid a huge tax bill – it appears to be a minor miracle that the album saw the light of day. Drug dealers, pushers, users and hangers-on populated the 16-room 19th-century mansion, thought to be the former headquarters of the local Gestapo during the Nazi occupation of France . "Keith was living over the shop all the time, so all his friends were there, and all our friends were there, so it was all a bit of a madhouse," Mick Jagger told the Sunday Times in a recent interview. "It was a big lifestyle thing going on in the house. When you see all the photos of it, it was full of people. It was fun and crazy." According to Watts, the drummer, the album's recording schedule in the villa's basement was unconventional in the extreme. Wyman, the Stones' bassist, "would drive down at 10 o'clock in the morning, and nobody, including me, would be up till about three in the afternoon, because we didn't go to bed until nine… So Bill would go home at six and Keith would be getting up," he laughs. "That was the kind of timetable. We used to work like that a lot in those days." Richards insisted he was not the villa's only hedonist. "Nobody gave a damn who was doing what. People were dabbling, everybody was," he said. "Mick is not the squeaky-clean little mother you think he is or he likes to portray himself as. The fact is that Mick doesn't hold stuff as well. Sometimes, I wish I could have a drink or two, or a hit of this or that, and I'd be out of it, but it doesn't affect me that way. I've always looked upon drugs as a bit of a tool, actually, and I'm the laboratory" Exile on Main Street captured the Stones at their creative zenith, Watts said. "I think it's a peak period for our band. We had everything covered. We had a wonderful producer, Jimmy Miller, and you were playing with Nicky Hopkins, who could play blues as well as the prettiest piano. We had Mick Taylor, who for me was the most lyrical player we had, and we had Mick and Keith writing." Or as Jagger put it: "It's a great piece of period music that's stood the test of time." |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 20th, 2010 at 9:56am
There were loads of drugs and booze but... this was rock ‘n’ roll
By GORDON SMART, Bizarre Editor Published: Today Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2979919/Mick-Jagger-in-exclusive-chat-with-Sun-about-Rolling-Stones-wildest-days.html#ixzz0oTv51x9j THE booze, the drugs, the women, the rock 'n' roll . . . and a spot of the ancient art of falconry. This is the story of the ROLLING STONES album Exile On Main St. through the eyes of the band's swaggering frontman MICK JAGGER. With the album back in the charts this week (and set to be their first No1 for 16 years), Sir Mick revisits those crazy, hazy days between July 1971 and March 1972 when the Stones decamped to the south of France to: Live like the ultimate decadent rock stars. Avoid going bust because of the band's "crippling" tax bill. Work on what is now regarded as the greatest Stones record of all. In an exclusive interview with The Sun, Mick, 66, admits with the widest, toothiest grin in rock: "Yes we used to take loads of drugs BUT! we worked very, very hard as a unit during those drink-and drug-fuelled sessions." However, he does accept that the mind-altering excesses "would become part of the process and that's when it could become weird and difficult". The move or "exile" to balmy Mediterranean climes began in May 1971 when guitarist KEITH RICHARDS and his stunning blonde girlfriend ANITA PALLENBERG rented a rambling mansion, Villa Nellcôte, near Nice, reputedly a Gestapo headquarters during the Second World War. By July, the band of Mick, Keith, drummer CHARLIE WATTS, guitarist MICK TAYLOR and bassist BILL WYMAN assembled in the mansion's basement to continue work on the album that would become Exile On Main St. Outside, a big truck nestled in the leafy grounds, serving as the Stones' mobile recording unit. "Keith's basement wasn't really a very good location because the band had always loved to play in big rooms," says Mick, picking up the story. "Keith was living over the shop all the time so all his friends were there, and all our friends were there. It was all a bit of a madhouse... but, in the end, it all started to click. "As I said, there were lots of drugs and lots of drinking and lots of carrying on but, you know, it's not like working in a factory. It was a rock and roll environment." That year, Mick had married Nicaraguan beauty BIANCA, already expecting their daughter JADE, at a Catholic ceremony in St. Tropez. For the Exile sessions, the Jaggers decided to rent a manor house in Antibes, not far from Nellcôte. Here the atmosphere was peaceful in comparison to the mayhem at Keith's place. "I had my piano, a swimming pool. I could write lyrics, try things out, chill out, have friends over. "One visitor was a friend called PETER WHITEHEAD, an acclaimed film-maker. He was very well off. "Somehow he had become falconer to the Saudi royal family and he used to turn up with his falcons. "Part of my relaxing was learning falconry in the grounds of this house. That was fun and different. "The other thing I'd do was go out on my own on my new motorbike up into the hills above Nellcôte - just a few miles and you were in the most remote areas, nothing there except great countryside with superb views." Mythical It's strange to think that the Stones, renowned for wild extravagance, were in France because of crippling financial pressure. Mick explains: "We had had a pretty sedate lifestyle in England. Well, not that sedate, but centred and grounded. We were very English in our ways. "Then the crunch period came with us having to become tax exiles. Our lovely lives in England had to end and that was the beginning of Exile." Mick is at pains to put right a widely held misconception about Exile On Main St., sparked by the near mythical stay in France. "When I'm asked to recall the recording of Exile, I have to think, 'When was that?'. "Though everyone interested in the Rolling Stones says, 'Well, Exile was all done in the south of France,' in reality it wasn't. "It was recorded over quite a long time... 1970 to '72. "Some Rolling Stones albums were done in two months, but Exile was done all over the place - Olympic Studios, London, my old English country house, Los Angeles and, of course, Nellcôte. "It all started from odd demos we had left from (previous album) Sticky Fingers and some songs done with the Stones' mobile unit at my house, Stargroves, in England. I remember doing Sweet Black Angel and an early take of Loving Cup there." Today, Exile - 18 songs over 67 minutes - is regarded as the quintessential Stones album, ramshackle yet inspired, sprawling yet enthralling, laid back yet rocking. You simply wouldn't want a single note different. But, at the time, it was the work of a band at the crossroads with mounting debts and, as Mick reveals, its very existence in jeopardy. "One reason Exile was done over a lengthy period was that we were leaving Decca Records. We had all sorts of problems with them. "We also had a problem with our management, ALLEN KLEIN and his various cohorts claiming they owned a lot of the unreleased stuff we had. So we wanted to get out of his contract." And, remarkably, the Stones - who had scored countless hits including Satisfaction, Paint It Black and Jumpin' Jack Flash and had played live for millions of fans - were practically skint. Mick says: "We didn't have much money and the tax we owed was crippling the band. "We went through a lot of shenanigans to keep the Stones alive. In the end, it all worked out but it was difficult getting a different management and finding our feet financially. "At that point, we had to move out of England because taxes were very, very high. "We owed the Inland Revenue a lot of money, so to earn it and pay them back we had to move out of the country. "We all moved out - forced out by the financial mess we were in - from being quite happy in England to live in France. "Looking at the final tracks that made it on to Exile On Main St., it's interesting that only nine of them were done in a nine-month period at Nellcôte, then me and Keith went off to LA to do overdubs and mixing . . . and finish off songs like Tumbling Dice." Madness Which brings us to the remastered and expanded edition of Exile, which saw off the likes of LADY GAGA and KEANE in the midweek UK album chart. The new two-CD version features the original album in all its glory, from the gospel-infused Shine A Light to the rollicking hit Tumbling Dice and languid loveliness of Let It Loose. There's also a remarkably fine ten-track second CD of songs that didn't make the cut as well as alternate versions of some that did. Some of the tracks were recently completed in the spirit of Exile with new lyrics and vocals from Mick. And despite the madness around its making, the passage of time has given the singer time to reflect on the album's merits. "Looking back, it was worth all the effort and, yes, it's a great record that has stood the test of time." Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2979919/Mick-Jagger-in-exclusive-chat-with-Sun-about-Rolling-Stones-wildest-days.html#ixzz0oTvNeQxA (there's another interview with Mick in The Sun tomorrow) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 20th, 2010 at 10:25am Ronnie Wood toasts success with a cup of tea as Rolling Stones look set for another No. 1 By Ben Todd Last updated at 3:58 PM on 20th May 2010 His young girlfriend has been working hard to keep Ronnie Wood on the wagon. So the rocker, notorious for his heavy drinking, had to content himself with kisses and a cup of tea following the news the Rolling Stones are once more heading to the top of the charts. The 62-year-old enjoyed a low-key celebratory outing in West London this afternoon with Brazilian polo coach Ana Araujo, 30, whom he began dating early this year. Cheers to me: Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood and girlfriend Ana Araujo enjoyed a sober lunch in West London today His legendary band are set to secure their first No1 album in 16 years this weekend with their re-mastered version of Exile On Main Street. They are in a close battle with dance act Faithless for the No1 spot. According to the latest leaked sales figures, the Rolling Stones are just 500 copies ahead of their rivals. It would be their first chart-topper in the UK since Voodoo Lounge in 1994. Meanwhile, the record is proving a hit again all over the world. It is on course to be No2 in the US charts. Exile On Main Street - infamously recorded over three years in London, Berkshire, the South of France and Los Angeles - was originally a chart-topper in both Britain and the US following it’s release in May 1972. The re-issue includes 10 tracks that had previously never been released – and four tracks that even frontman Sir Mick Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards, both 66, had forgotten even existed. Last night, a friend of the band’s said: ‘They’re delighted people have taken to the record once more. ‘They are particularly pleased that, in their home country, young people are discovering the band’s music for the first time.’ Jagger attended the European premiere of a documentary - called Stones In Exile - chronicling the making of the album at the Cannes Film Festival last night. He was then expected to head to a party on a super yacht belonging to Microsoft co-owner Paul Allen. The Rolling Stones are ahead of dance act Faithless and their new album The Dance in the battle to be No1. A music industry source said: ‘It actually is incredible that the Stones are on course for the No1 spot again. It just shows how timeless their music really is – and just how huge an act they remain.’ The Daily Mail revealed back in February how the band discovered four ‘lost’ tracks from the recording sessions for the 1972 Exile on Main St. album. Jagger and Richards came across the songs - Plundered My Soul, Dancing In The Light, Following The River and Pass The Wine – when they listened again to the original master copies of the recording sessions after discovering them in the basement of the band’s London offices. In all, the new version of the album features 10 extra recordings – including the four unheard of tracks. The original 18-track double-album was recorded at a number of different studios - most infamously at Richards' south of France mansion , called Nellcote, where the band notoriously staged the longest house party in history. Upon it's original release, the album initially received a lukewarm response from critics. However, it is now accepted as one of the most important albums of all time. Daily Mail |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 20th, 2010 at 10:41am
Cmon you folks in the UK...only 500 copies ahead?......get buyin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 20th, 2010 at 10:43am In Cannes, Mick Jagger walks down memory lane Published On Wed May 19 2010 By Peter Howell Movies Columnist Rolling Stones lead singer Mick Jagger and fashion stylist L'Wren Scott arrive at the "Quinzaine des Realisateurs" at the 63rd Cannes Film Festival on Wednesday. Jagger is in Cannes to promote the film Stones In Exile. VINCENT KESSLER/REUTERS CANNES, FRANCE Rolling Stone Mick Jagger was in an unusually nostalgic and self-mocking mood Wednesday evening, as he invited Cannes Film Festival goers to spend the night together with him on a trip down memory lane. “We were young, good-looking and stupid — and now we're just stupid,” Jagger said of his band, before the world debut of Stones in Exile, British filmmaker Stephen Kijak's documentary on the making of Exile on Main Street, the group's landmark 1972 double album. Exile was recorded in the summer of 1971 about a half-hour away from Cannes up the Riviera coast, in the billionaires preserve of Villefranche-sur-Mer. They set up shop in a 19th-century banker’s mansion called Villa Nellcôte, where they spent months crafting such Stones classics as “Tumbling Dice,” “Happy,” “Rip This Joint” and “Sweet Virginia.” The album was newly released this week, with a bonus disc of additional songs that Jagger and his guitarist bandmate Keith Richards had forgotten all about. That's how wild the sessions were at Villa Nellcôte, which included heroin shoot-ups, all-night partying, marathon music-making and unclothed modelling, of which session sax player Bobby Keys says in the film, “Without it, you ain't got rock 'n' roll.” The film's debut in the Director's Fortnight program at the Palais Stephanie theatre became the hot ticket of Cannes 2010, with thousands of people lining up hours before the 5 p.m. screening for a theatre that holds just a few hundred. Tempers flared as people pushed and shoved for a seat, more so even than at Stones concerts. They were drawn by the presence of Jagger, one of the few superstars making the trek to the Croisette during the festival this year. Jagger normally hates anything that smacks of nostalgia, possibly because he's been one for growing older. But as the band members push the impossible age of 70 — and former bass player Bill Wyman is already there, at 73 — the Stones frontman seem more inclined to talk about the good ol' days than he ever was. He described going back to the Exile master tapes and helping Kijak make his doc a much happier experience than he'd ever imagined. “It's like when you look through your family scrapbook, in a way, isn't it?” Some scrapbook: The film shows just how tough the making of Exile was. It's not easy being creative in the midst of 24/7 debauchery, with high-profile guests (John Lennon and Yoko Ono amongst them) dropping in nights and the band members’ many children keeping them busy during the day. The film adds a few new details to the Exile story, such as how the band really was on the run — partly from their outsized reputation, but mainly from the British taxman, who was dinging them for 93 per cent of all their earnings. Drummer Charlie Watts grouses in the film that if the band earned £1 million, they'd only be able to take home £70,000 of it because of all the taxes incurred. The solution was to hie themselves off to the south of France, and to a mansion that Richards had rented both for its solitude and for the fact it used to be the local Gestapo headquarters during World War II, when the Nazis occupied France. Jagger reveals in the film that the idea for the hit tune “Tumbling Dice” came from the mansion's housekeeper, who loved to gamble and literally roll the dice. The film is scheduled to be broadcast June 10 on French TV but will probably go straight to DVD in North America, as part of the promotion for the revamped Exile CD. Jagger surprised the audience by speaking in quite passable French for his opening remarks, in which he reflected on how Richard Nixon was still in the White House and the U.S. was still fighting the Vietnam War when the Stones went to their Villa Nellcôte retreat. Looking relaxed in a grey jacket, white shirt and track shoes, Jagger stayed following the screening to answer audience questions. At the time of making Exile did he feel he'd finally beaten The Beatles, the rival British pop group that had officially broken up a year earlier? Jagger said he never felt much of a rivalry between the two groups and “I think it was kind of sad” The Beatles broke up, though he thought they never would have survived the big stadium tours that the Stones later mastered. Here are some other Jagger comments: • On Richard's filmed comment that, “Mick's rock and I'm roll”: “I thought I rolled and he rocked.” • On pot smoking and rock stardom: “I'm not saying it's really great to smoke pot and sing. I'm not saying it's really ideal.” • On today's newer pop acts: “There's great music and there's s—t in every era.” • On rock critics initially slagging Exile on Main Street in 1972: “Critics take a long time, like any other listener, to get into something.” • On which film directors and actors he likes: “There are so many great directors and good actors — and most of them aren't here.” • On how he feels about returning to Exile after 39 years: “I didn't really relish it in the beginning, but in the end, I quite enjoyed it.” Toronto Star |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 20th, 2010 at 10:51am
Ronnie looks good.
The words "Scared Straight" come to mind. LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 20th, 2010 at 10:51am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:25am:
Well done on that success, Ronnie!! Cause for celebration indeed! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 20th, 2010 at 10:53am gimmekeef wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:41am:
We already have! Thats the problem! At least if we lose out on the top spot, it won't be to Glee, whatever the hell THAT is! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on May 20th, 2010 at 11:02am left shoe shuffle wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:25am:
so that's where those mysterious archives are, I always figured they must have been hidden at area 51 as off limits as they seem to be |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 20th, 2010 at 11:06am Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Even though he had nothing to do with 'Exile', do you think Ronnie might somehow be cut in for a taste from the re-issue and merch sales? Bill and MT stand to make a few bob, too, non? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 20th, 2010 at 1:31pm Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:53am:
Glee is nother stupid reality type tv show I think. It's sitting #1 currently on Itunes with Exile stuck in sixth....I'm not downloading mp3's and hate Itunes......... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SoulPlunderer on May 20th, 2010 at 2:23pm
According to the Stones Facebook page, Amazon have bumped the price of Exile down to 5.99 in the UK. They hope, as do I, that this will lead to an increase in sales and keep the album on top of the charts! I know the Stones probably don't have a lot to do with their faebook, but this seems to be an indecation that they want the no.1 spot. I'm sure Mick does anyway!!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 20th, 2010 at 2:27pm gimmekeef wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 1:31pm:
It's actually a Fox show about a (fictional) high school glee club. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 20th, 2010 at 2:56pm stonedinaustralia wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 8:36am:
It's incorrectly labeled as Nellcote rehearsal, but its actually a rehearsal in Dallas during the 72 tour. Jagger is in excellent form here, but unfortunately the song is full of stops and starts and there's alot more.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd4EMhFW0yI&feature=related |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 20th, 2010 at 3:33pm Sublime. I really wish they'd used that one too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 20th, 2010 at 3:38pm moy wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 9:37am: There's a man with a "We're at the top of the charts" spring in his step! Nice work, Mick! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 20th, 2010 at 4:04pm Revisiting ‘Main St.,’ Rethinking the Myth By BEN RATLIFF Published: May 18, 2010 Dominique Tarle Keith Richards catching rays at Villa Nellcôte in 1971 A LESSER-KNOWN version of the Rolling Stones’ “Loving Cup,” found on the bonus disc of the new reissue of the band’s 1972 album, “Exile on Main St.,” seems to me the best thing the Stones ever did. It’s country gospel gone lurid, and it seems to rise up out of a nap. Nicky Hopkins’s piano chords circle around a G at slow tempo in an echoey room. Charlie Watts starts pumping a bass drum at the third beat of the second bar; he’s either late or early, but finding his way. Piano and drums roll up to the A chord at the beginning of the first verse, and Mick Taylor bends two guitar strings under Mick Jagger’s opening line: “I’m the man on the mountain — yes, come on up.” Onward, Mr. Watts weaves around the beat, smashing down on his high-hat, forming weird and clattering snare-drum fills. He both shapes and follows the group’s euphoria and the music’s subtle acceleration. The Stones gather around the song like pickpockets, jostling and interfering with it. Keith Richards, playing rhythm guitar and singing backup, quits harmonizing and starts to shout. This performance represents to me the sound of “Exile” in idealized form: a dark, dense, loosely played, semiconscious tour through American blues, gospel and country music, recorded in a basement in France. “Exile” was made around the Stones’ creative peak and in unusual circumstances: they were tax exiles, forced to live away from home. It is often called one of the best rock records ever made, and framed as an after-the-fact concept album: a wise horror show, an audio diary of rock stars finally facing the rigors of marriage, children and addiction. (“ ‘Exile’ is about casualties, and partying in the face of them,” the critic Lester Bangs wrote in 1972. “The party is obvious. The casualties are inevitable.”) The notion of the record as story also comes from the strong documentary images around its creation— Dominique Tarlé’s black-and-white pictures of the Stones at Villa Nellcôte, shirtless and dazed in the stifling air of a basement in the South of France. These images dot the 64-page booklet and the DVD film included in the reissue’s deluxe edition and have been part of the avalanche of press around the reissue, released by Universal on Tuesday. Recently, thinking about this alternate “Loving Cup” and why it’s not on the original album made me wonder what the ideal of “Exile” really is. I find most of “Exile” good, but not great. (That era of Stones music, fantastic. The album, not so much.) I can’t see it as a masterpiece, not only because I distrust the idea of masterpieces, but because I especially don’t want one from the Stones, who make songs and albums like birds’ nests — collaborative tangles with delicate internal balances — and have a history of great triage work, assembling bits and pieces recorded over a long period. But “Exile” remains the preference of the most judicious Stones fans. Why? What is its essence? It’s a tricky question. “Exile” can seem like a unity of sound, place and time; much has been made of the fact that one of its greatest songs, “Ventilator Blues,” was inspired by the discomfort of the basement studio at Nellcôte, Mr. Richards’s rented mansion on the French Riviera, with its one small air vent. You can make yourself hear that heat, if you want. But the recordings for “Exile” didn’t all happen in that basement. They stretched from 1969 to 1972, across the making of two other excellent and, to me, superior records — “Let It Bleed” and “Sticky Fingers.” It’s not always the band you know and, perhaps, love: there are a number of “Exile” tracks whose parts are not played by the usual suspects. (That’s Jimmy Miller, the producer, playing drums on “Happy” and “Shine a Light,” not Mr. Watts. That’s Mr. Taylor, or Mr. Richards, or Bill Plummer playing bass on about half the record, not Bill Wyman.) As it happens, the “Loving Cup” described above was not recorded in Nellcôte’s basement but at Olympic Studios in London in the spring of 1969. (The album version — more laid back, not as good — comes from Los Angeles, after the French sojourn.) The Nellcôte experience was important to “Exile,” there’s no question. But the work of several Stones researchers indicates that more than half the album was recorded at other places, under more normal working conditions. The new reissue both enshrines “Exile” and questions it. The first disc — a sharper version of the album itself, sounding far better than its last remastering in 1994, with deeper bass and greater detail — strengthens the idea of “Exile” as an inviolable document, dense and atmospheric and brilliantly post-produced, a thing unto itself. But the second bonus disc blows that idea apart, with new vocal tracks by Mr. Jagger over old instrumental tracks of “Exile”-related provenance, and other material that seems to come from the general era. So now you’re getting “Exile” from two perspectives: first as a finished 18-track entity, a masterpiece, if you want; then as something broader and more amorphous. If I’m reading the signs correctly, these two perspectives have some relation to how Mr. Richards and Mr. Jagger think about the album. Mr. Jagger, who has criticized the album’s production over the years and wondered aloud about the strength of its songs, is more willing to dispense with Nellcôte as the album’s central force. “You mean what is the album’s esprit?” he asked, rephrasing a question in a recent telephone conversation. The idea of Nellcôte as the album’s unifier is “three-quarters true,” he explained. “It wouldn’t be the same record without Nellcôte,” he added. “But then it wouldn’t be the same record without what we did in London. Nellcôte was more hothouse, it was more living-in-the-studio. But what would the difference have been if we recorded ‘Ventilator Blues’ at Olympic or at Nellcôte? Who knows, and who cares?” Miller, the album’s producer, died in 1994. So Mr. Jagger commissioned the producer Don Was to investigate extra studio material from the period. (“When Mick first called me about it,” Mr. Was said, “it was like he was asking me, ‘Can you do me a favor, man? Can you take the garbage out?’ ”) But then Mr. Jagger got caught up in the search himself, trying to determine what other tracks might qualify as extra matter for “Exile.” Mr. Jagger said he thought only in terms of time period, not by style, sound, location, or any other criterion. For him, “Exile” is less a specific sequence of tracks than an era of recording, starting with that “Loving Cup” at Olympic Studios. “It’s a good story to say that what was created at Nellcôte was a result of the incredibly decadent atmosphere,” Mr. Jagger said. “Well, yeah: it’s probably true that the atmosphere affected the feeling of the music, and the sound of the studio. But you’ve no idea how much or how little. And in the end, it’s just a sort of myth, really.” Can he hear the sound of the Nellcôte studios when he listens to the album? “I’ve no idea which is the Nellcôte stuff and which isn’t, to be honest.” Ah. Mr. Richards feels differently. “All of the bone and the muscle of the record was done down in that basement,” he said when asked the same question. The rest of the work he considers “fairy dust.” It’s the opposite interpretation, but if you read the literature — particularly Robert Greenfield’s book “Exile on Main St.: A Season in Hell With the Rolling Stones” (Da Capo Press) — it makes sense. Nellcôte was Mr. Richards’s house, and he was one of its mainstays that summer, with his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg and their son Marlon. The other band members came and went; Inasmuch as “Exile” has an esprit of place, Mr. Richards lived in it, and Mr. Jagger visited. “I don’t think we were conscious of making a record that was gonna be about that place and the way we felt at the time,” Mr. Richards said in a phone interview. “But the word ‘exile’ does describe pretty much the atmosphere and the conditions that we were recording in. I mean, we’d all had to leave our places in England. Not that the Stones were particularly patriotic — I know better than that — but it was really a jerk, when you’re working with a team of guys and you all have to uproot at once.” Mr. Richards contributed little to the extra tracks on the bonus disc and distrusted altering even the outtakes and unused tracks; as he said to another reporter earlier this year, “I didn’t want to interfere with the Bible.” “My job was to enforce the no-fiddling rule,” he told me. “I didn’t want to play around with it at all. It’s all analog, and of course the remixing involved a change to digital, but otherwise, if anybody came up with a bright idea, I said no.” It’s not clear that Mr. Jagger heard him. He put new vocals on four of the bonus tracks: “Plundered My Soul,” “Following the River,” “Dancing in the Light” and “Pass the Wine.” In “Plundered” — after some newly tracked guitar in the opening by Mr. Taylor — you hear a 66-year-old voice singing recent lyrics: an aging aristocrat describing a younger man’s appetites, over what appears to be the Stones sounding worn and wracked in their 20s. Mr. Was believes that nobody, not even the Stones themselves, can remember when the backing tracks for “Plundered My Soul” were recorded. The strange thing is that “Plundered My Soul” is very good: the most soulful and energetic Stones track I can think of in almost 30 years. Until recently, the Stones have been reluctant to release their unheard archives. Perhaps that’s because they’re so good at putting old scraps into new patchworks — the then-three-year-old songs retooled in 1972 for “Exile,” the then-nine-year-old songs (“Tops” and “Waiting on a Friend”) given new vocals and new life in 1981 on “Tattoo You.” The rest of the bonus disc is very good, too, patchwork, mysteries and all. According to Mr. Was, two tracks come from Nellcôte — a petulant shuffle called “I’m Not Signifying” and an alternate version of “Soul Survivor,” sung by Mr. Richards. One other, a nasty R&B instrumental called “Title 5,” came from a tape box marked “1969,” though Mr. Was suspects it was made earlier. So do I. I don’t know if a great album must serve as an accounting of where the band members’ heads were at, or where they were geographically, or when they made it. But in the Stones’ case, I do want to hear the group sound, as much as possible. I want a minimum of detours, absences and static longeurs, with introductions and bridges and codas. The Stones wrote and arranged carefully, but this is a record that favors jamming over composing; though only one track is longer than five minutes, many quickly drag from indirection: “Happy,” “Casino Boogie,” “Stop Breaking Down,” “Shine a Light” — half the record, really. Still, because of its rolling eccentricity, “Exile” always wants to be heard in full, or at least in small groupings, including the two great segues: the hard “Rocks Off” into the harder “Rip This Joint”; the angry gnarl of “Ventilator Blues” into the menthol drift of “I Just Want to See His Face.” Throughout, I love Mr. Jagger’s yapping voice, determined to be heard, feeling its way through cultural appropriation. I think Mr. Richards’s limping rhythm in “Tumbling Dice” is one of the great energies in popular music, even if I’ve never worked up much love for the song. But back to the alternate take of “Loving Cup,” which still seems like the star of the whole enterprise. I asked Don Was what he thought. “There’s a sound that’s identified with ‘Exile’ that’s become part of the vocabulary for every rock ‘n’ roll musician subsequently,” he said. “And this is the ultimate track of the style that characterizes ‘Exile.’ It’s not sloppiness; it’s width, in terms of where everyone feels the beat. You’ve got five individuals feeling the beat in a different place. At some point, the centrifugal force of the rhythm no longer holds the band together. That ‘Loving Cup’ is about the widest area you can have without the song falling apart.” What leapt out was the phrase “the style that characterizes ‘Exile,’ ” especially in connection with a track that’s not actually on the record. For me, “Exile” works best as a suggestion, not a fact. The New York Times |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 20th, 2010 at 4:04pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 2:27pm:
i woudn't watch it for cash in my hand... and i watch some dumbass tv shows. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 20th, 2010 at 4:34pm
Man, INS is good! I was cranking it on the way back from the grocery store on the ole Alpine system, rared up to pass a fart and pooed my pants a little!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 20th, 2010 at 4:42pm Interviewer: So is 'I'm Not Signifying' that good? SG: Depends. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 20th, 2010 at 4:43pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 4:42pm:
nizzleism |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SoulPlunderer on May 20th, 2010 at 5:02pm Pdog wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 4:04pm:
That's a good policy. I searched You Cant Always Get What You into YouTube and since ABKCO had removed all the stones videos of it, I was left with the Glee version. Well! Sweet Mother of God, it was utter shite.... In the past, blasphemers would have been stoned, but Glee,s utter butcher job of this song was musical blasphemy although it was me who felt if I was being stoned for listening to it!! The most anoying thing is, people of my age group who watch this tripe probably have never heard of the song and will think that this version is superior. :retarded What has happened to music? I hope the stones get to number one this week because it will be a moral victory for me over a friend of mine who saw my copy of Exile on the day I bough it, read the cover and responded "eugh.... The Rolling Stones?!?" People wouldn't know good music if it smacked them in the face with a shovel, which is what I feel like doing at some points!!! OK, gotta calm myself down..... :forfucksake |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 20th, 2010 at 6:19pm texile wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 2:56pm:
thanx tex - as GTRM says - sublime |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 20th, 2010 at 6:41pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 11:02am:
If the burglary rate in London is any yardstick, I expect the entire archives to be on e-bay by the weekend. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 20th, 2010 at 7:44pm Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 6:41pm:
I will be excited if they end up on dime a dozen or demonoid.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Paranoid Android on May 20th, 2010 at 8:19pm
Question about the sales rankings...Since there are at least 3 formats/editions available to buy (at least here in the US), do they ALL count towards the sales position...
or is the Target "Rarities Edition" competing w/ the reissued edition competeing w/ the Delux edition competing w/ the Fan Pak edition competeing w/ the Super delux etc etc etc... OR do they all count towards the same sales figure... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 20th, 2010 at 8:54pm
All the versions are counted together and it will rank as "Re-Entry" en both UK & US with the peak position from 1972 (#1)
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on May 20th, 2010 at 9:10pm Pdog wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 7:44pm:
We could take Joey along to blow the security guards while we snuck in... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 20th, 2010 at 9:24pm
Who has listened to the vinyl? I swear it's the best I've ever heard Exile. It makes the compact discs sound cold and flat. I turned off both the 1994 and 2010 versions and had to spin side one again. The whole first side swings and has such a tangible groove. My preamplifier has many different tweeks I can set, and once I tuned it up, the Stones were in my room.
Brilliant, brilliant transfer. I love it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Kilroy on May 20th, 2010 at 9:44pm GotToRollMe wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Yes And Thank you. But to be honest I bought one fan pack for a friend who did me a great favor recently, and I got the Deluxe Edition for my Brother, Who's got a birthday coming up. The Magazines are for the Storage Stones bind, in the attic. You know I was hoping for a third one with Charlie on it! The big fan Deluxe Edition is in the mail for me.......... KILROYEEE. I got the Rarities edition cause I felt left out, thank you amazon. The remaining Fan Pack will go to one of the boys some day................... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 20th, 2010 at 10:16pm Kilroy wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 9:44pm:
A legacy for your legacy. You're a good man, Kilroy. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 21st, 2010 at 12:42am Leftie, you've been invaluable in posting info and links in this thread. You da man! :willya |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 21st, 2010 at 4:57am
Received my Japanese std. deluxe yesterday. Very nice gatefold digipak, lyrics booklet, and the alternate All Down The Line as song #11 on the bonus disc.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by pass the wine on May 21st, 2010 at 5:59am eric wrote on May 21st, 2010 at 4:57am:
WOW! How much cost? 8-) Is the alternate All Down The Line as song #11 the same as free of amazon uk? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on May 21st, 2010 at 6:44am
Gibson has some articles/video's on Exile.
Keef's top 10 guitar riffs. http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/keith-riffage-0519/ Exile week. http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/rolling-stones-0518/ 3 things you didn't know about exile. http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/rolling-stones-0517/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 21st, 2010 at 7:00am
Mick interviewed from Cannes on French TV at 8PM last night, starts at about 25 minnutes here : http://tinyurl.com/333an3r
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 21st, 2010 at 9:19am Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 6:41pm:
Let's hope they're guarded better than paintings at a French museum. :aimama |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Holden on May 21st, 2010 at 11:38am Heart Of Stone wrote on May 21st, 2010 at 6:44am:
"2. “Rocks Off” Richards’ jagged riff on Exile’s leadoff song sounds like a car engine that’s trying to turn over, until it finally kicks in on the third attempt. This riff powers one of the best track one, side ones in music history." YES YES YES! I love it when people get "it." The whole record is like taking a ride in a muscle car. The opening intro is like the engine starting. The song starts off kinda slow, but it accelerates like a car until it's at top speed with Rip this Joint. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by scope on May 21st, 2010 at 12:32pm eric wrote on May 21st, 2010 at 4:57am:
You get your stuff from Japan, and I'm still drooling waiting for that damn fan pack to come. This is really starting to piss me off >:( |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by throbby on May 21st, 2010 at 12:40pm
Hey Scope!
Yes, received from Japan in two days. It was around 35 bucks with shipping and I don't have to settle for the mp3 version of "All Down the Line". The target 10 minutes from my office had a bunch of the fan packs on the shelf. Check your local Target. If you want me to check the Target near me let me know. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 21st, 2010 at 1:04pm
I don't know whay the press, or the Stones, can't get the release date for Sticky Fingers correct. We're coming up on 40 years, not 30.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by scope on May 21st, 2010 at 1:08pm eric wrote on May 21st, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Thanks, but it's the "Fan Pack Road Case" from the fan club with the extra goodies inside that I am waiting on. If I remember right it wasn't shipping until release date. I have to check to see if I can track the shipment to see where the hell it is. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on May 21st, 2010 at 1:16pm
Rolling Stone has photos from recording Exile & American '72 Tour.
http://ebm.cheetahmail.com/c/tag/hBL9ritB7RrIeB8JXeDNAYEzPKe/doc.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 21st, 2010 at 4:54pm
RS.Scum has reached new highs/lows of whoredom. http://rollingstones.shop.bravadousa.com/Dept.aspx?cp=150_24935
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 21st, 2010 at 5:42pm Stones fans not welcome at French 'Exile' mansion Published On Fri May 21 2010 By Peter Howell The Nellcote sign is on the outside of the French mansion where the Rolling Stones recorded Exile on Main Street. A digital remaster of Exile was released this past week, along with newly discovered extra tracks, and a documentary titled Stones in Exile has debuted at the Cannes Film Festival. Peter Howell/Toronto Star VILLEFRANCHE-SUR-MER, FRANCE — Behold the gates of rock ’n’ roll heaven and hell. Through these massive rods of black-and-gold iron passed the Rolling Stones and their retinue in the summer of 1971, seeking refuge from the Britain taxman and from their increasingly complicated lives. These gates are the frontal access to Villa Nellcôte, the place where Keith Richards shot up, John Lennon threw up and the Stones made Exile On Main Street. The double LP vinyl album is acclaimed by many pop music fans as being not only the Stones’ masterpiece, but arguably the defining statement of the rock era. A digital remaster of Exile was released this past week, along with newly discovered extra tracks, and the hoopla includes the Cannes Film Festival debut of a documentary titled Stones In Exile. The Stones came to the south of France, here in this waterfront billionaires’ preserve, to shut the world off for a while. They chose a good hideout: The place is difficult to find (many people wrongly assume it’s in nearby Saint-Jean-Cap-Ferrat) and its address at No. 10, avenue Louise Bordes, is on a narrow road that doesn’t exactly beckon to tourists — but it also doesn’t stop them. With the tragedy of Altamont’s concert murder 18 months earlier still fresh in their minds, and band relations torn and frayed and problems with drugs, money and women, the Stones were badly in need of rejuvenation in the hot summer of ’71. They holed up in Villa Nellcôte, a 16-room mansion built by a banker in the late 1890s. It wasn’t the most likely of places for Richards, Mick Jagger, Charlie Watts, Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman to record the band’s 10th album. Villa Nellcôte’s hard marble columns and dank basement were less than ideal for optimum sound and delicate instruments. The band used a recording mobile studio packed into a truck parked outside, a rolling powerhouse later hailed by Deep Purple in “Smoke On The Water.” Richards had rented Nellcôte for its privacy — huge palm trees and a woodland preserve keep it free from prying eyes —and because he was amused that the place had been used as the local Gestapo headquarters during the Nazi occupation of France in World War II. The metal grates for the heating vents of the villa still bore swastika emblems. As Robert Greenfield tells it in his recent book Exile on Main St.: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones, Nellcôte attracted beautiful people and major tensions, that warm summer of ‘71. Jagger had recently married Nicaraguan model Bianca Pérez Morena de Macías, having also recently abandoned girlfriend Marianne Faithfull. His attention was divided and his patience was wearing thin with the rock-star shenanigans of his band mates — particularly Richards, Jagger’s main creative partner, who kept vampire hours and often dozed off from the affects of his increasing dependency on heroin. Jagger also resented the presence of ex-Byrds guitarist Gram Parsons, a country rocker whom Keith had befriended and whom Mick viewed as a hanger-on. Richards had his own personal issues. He didn’t like Bianca, whom he judged to be a snooty gold-digger. He was trying to be a good father to his 2-year-old son Marlon, borne to him by model Anita Pallenberg, a friend of Faithfull’s, whom Mick had reportedly “plundered” (as the newly issued Exile outtake “Plundered My Soul” strongly suggests.) Always sociable and at all hours, Richards invited along any number of drug dealers, fellow musicians and general hangers-on to the Nellcôte clambake. John Lennon and Yoko Ono were amongst the visitors, with Lennon reportedly hurling on the front steps of the mansion after one refreshment too many with Richards. Out of this chaos came the four sides and 18 songs of Exile On Main Street, a sprawling slab of rock, blues, country, folks, gospel and soul that was initially panned by many critics (the “swampy” sound of Nellcôte bothered some), and which yielded just two semi-hits: “Tumbling Dice” and “Happy.” Yet the album has gained mythic status since its 1972 release, influencing everyone from the punks of The Clash to girl-power diva Liz Phair. Exile was often cited by the grunge rockers of the 1990s as the only classic rock album they could enthusiastically support, and “Happy,” with its gravelly, Richards-lead vocal, has become a concert anthem for the Stones’ axeman. “I think tales of its universal derision have been largely exaggerated,” said Stephen Kijak, the U.S. filmmaker whose Cannes premiere doc Stones In Exile is loaded with unseen footage documenting the album’s birth at Nellcôte. “The album was huge and the tour was massive,” he told the Star. “It’s a double album. People didn’t make a lot of double albums back then, and it was notoriously hard to mix: It was recorded in the most unusual circumstances, but that’s what gives the sound its character. I’d like to think it will be appreciated by a new generation that can actually get their heads around it as a complete work, and not just by hand picking songs off iTunes or something. In a perfect world, it will help encourage a re-appreciation of the album as an art form.” Kijak tried but failed to gain access to Nellcôte for his movie, said Didier Gayraud, a Riviera local and Stones fan who assisted him with Nellcôte. Gayraud told the Star the current owners of Nellcôte don’t encourage fans to visit, unlike the way Elvis Presley’s admirers are invited into Graceland in Memphis. “The house was bought five years ago by a Russian who paid 100 million euros ($128 million). The house has a swimming pool now and the next villa has been bought to make a larger property. I don’t think that the owner is interested in the Stones,” Gayraud said. Fans come to visit the property, but they aren’t welcome — a man in black emerged from house to shoo the Star away after a few too many photos were snapped. The main mansion of Nellcôte is set way back from the access road, along the Riviera waterfront, and it is hidden by a smaller building that apparently serves as a guest house. It’s difficult to see the mansion even from the local beaches, because access is severely limited. A full view can only be seen from the water or air, although Google Earth provides a dandy aerial view of the property. If anything, Nellcôte is about to become even more imposing. There is construction currently underway on either side of the property that may make the limited sightlines even more constrained. In contrast, the legend of Exile On Main Street continues to grow, something that is a mystery for Jagger, who has long maintained the album is “overrated.” Stones fans beg to differ, though, and Kijak thinks he knows why. “People seem to see that album, and the circumstances in which it was made, as the apotheosis of the rock and roll lifestyle; the ultimate fantasy of living the music — they were kings, but still outlaws, and the album is steeped in all the mysterious contradictions that goes with that.” Kijak had the full support of the band in making his film, with access to outtakes from the unreleased documentary of the era by Robert Franks (who also designed the photo montage album cover) that is known under the publication-friendly title CS Blues. Jagger showed up at Cannes this week for a Q&A session following the debut screening of Stones In Exile. “It’s just one of those albums that carries with it the weight of myth,” Kijak continued. “And, it’s an amazing piece of music, almost a culmination of everything the Stones had explored musically up to that point, a dense, murky tour through the American idioms they always celebrated, but sleazier, darker. “Given the year it came out, it’s easy to say that it signalled the end of the ’60s, that it was a reaction to Altamont, or that it signalled the dark times ahead, and perhaps it does — but it endures as a musical statement, and is still rich and rewarding some 40 years on, and that’s just down to the music.” Toronto Star |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 21st, 2010 at 5:59pm Steel Wheels wrote on May 21st, 2010 at 1:04pm:
Its just one article reposted from one that was posted on here about 2-3 weeks ago |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 21st, 2010 at 8:14pm ROLLING STONES' 'EXILE' PRODUCER HOPES TO MINE BAND'S VAULTS FOR MORE RARITIES Posted on May 21st 2010 4:00PM by Steve Baltin Longtime Rolling Stones producer Don Was, who first worked with the band in '93, recently got to revisit a childhood favorite, mining through 300 hours of tape to come up with the 10 bonus songs for the just-released 'Exile On Main Street' reissue. Despite having worked with the band for 17 years, going back to an album that was influential in his own life as a kid was special for Was. "The honest to god's truth is last week when I was in New York they handed me one of the records for the first time and to look at the credits and see produced by Jimmy Miller, the Glimmer Twins and Don Was, I actually kind of welled up a little bit," Was tells Spinner. "It's pretty deep -- real deep." What other albums would be that deep for him? "Like I told Mick [Jagger] the other day, I said, 'Come on, bring on 'Some Girls,'" Was says laughing. Is the Stones '78 classic, an album that found them embracing disco with 'Miss You' and provided such classics as 'Beast of Burden' and 'Shattered,' ripe for the same sort of 'Exile' bonus treatment? "I know there's stuff there," Was says. And what did Jagger say in resposne? "He didn't say 'no.'" Was also says that one of the Stones' most prolific and enduring periods has outtakes that could hopefully someday see the light of day. "Obviously, with the Stones you'd say, 'Let's listen to the 'Let It Bleed,' 'Beggars Banquet' period and I know what's there," he says. "You could combine that era and that's good stuff." In the meantime, Was is still glowing from being able to sift through all of those hours of tapes from 'Exile.' Is there anything that surprised him listening to that material? "One thing that really struck me was what I could hear from all the banter in-between songs and what was going on in that basement -- it's really not that different from a Stones session today," he says. That is surprising considering that the Stones famously rented a house in the South of France to record the album and the era is considered one of their wildest. Was doesn't doubt that stuff is going on, but it didn't affect the music. "There was a crazy scene going on around them, but they were on their game and that's not what I expected," he says. "I pictured it to be all Jack Daniels, heroin and girls." http://www.spinnermusic.co.uk/2010/05/21/rolling-stones-exile-producer-vaults-rarities/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by LadyJane on May 21st, 2010 at 9:03pm
Do we have the official numbers yet?
Did we finish Number 1 in the UK? How did we do in the US?? OMG..I've been hanging around with jb too much!!!!!!!! NECESSARY TO WIN GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LJ. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 21st, 2010 at 9:49pm
Trey message and replies have been moved to This Thread
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Throwaway on May 22nd, 2010 at 1:21am
Releasing "Some Girls" reissue would be quite a task. Which songs to choose? I know there may not be any scientific numbers, but the outtakes for SG HAFTA be more plentiful than those from any other album, am I right? Woodstock Sessions FTW.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 23rd, 2010 at 9:36am
Is this thread possibly losing steam?!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 9:50am Keith hid cocaine under my shirt... his wedding gift to Mick: The truth about the Rolling Stones, by an eight-year-old boy By Caroline Graham Last updated at 12:18 AM on 23rd May 2010 As the eight-year-old boy walked through the vast iron gates of Villa Nellcote on the Cote d’Azur in the South of France, the scene unfolded like a child’s fantasy. There was a huge pool complete with diving board, a sprawling toy-filled sandpit and even a selection of miniature motorbikes parked alongside a mansion that housed a menagerie of dogs, cats and a rabbit. Tugging the sleeve of his six-year-old brother, young Jake Weber could barely contain his excitement as he cried: ‘It’s just like a fairytale palace!’ 'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street But the Villa Nellcote, known locally for having been a Nazi headquarters during the war, was certainly no place for children. No sooner had the heavy wooden doors to the mansion closed than one of the most famous men on the planet lurched forward. Pausing to give Jake’s golden hair a half-hearted tousle, Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards knelt down and pulled the boy’s T-shirt off, revealing a package wrapped in plastic taped firmly to Jake’s bare stomach. This, the boy learned, was to be Richards’s ‘wedding gift’ to bandmate Mick Jagger. Inside the package was half a kilo of cocaine. Jake’s brother, Charley, also had half a kilo wrapped round his body. This would be for Richards’s own use. Both consignments had been carefully prepared – and concealed on them by the boys’ father. It was, as Jake put it, ‘pretty outrageous even by the debauched standards of the Rolling Stones. To use kids as drug mules takes some doing’. Tonight the full hedonistic extent of that summer at the 54-room Villa Nellcote will be laid bare when a new documentary, Stones In Exile, is broadcast on BBC1. The film coincides with the re-release of the Stones’ legendary double album Exile On Main Street, which is considered by many to be the greatest rock and roll album. Almost as legendary as the music – created in a makeshift basement studio that was so damp that the guitars constantly went out of tune – are the antics of the band and their colourful entourage: heroin-addled Richards and his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg; Mick Jagger and his new bride, the sultry Bianca; Charlie Watts; Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor. At Nellcote, the Stones embarked on an orgy of partying surrounded by drug-pushers and legions of hangers-on, punctuated by occasional visits from celebrity friends like John Lennon and Yoko Ono. They submerged themselves in a bacchanalian haze of hash, cocaine, heroin and alcohol by day before retreating to their basement lair by night, to create classic tracks such as Tumbling Dice, Happy and Sweet Virginia. But there was a still more extraordinary, and some might say disturbing, aspect to the dark fantasy playing out beneath the crystal chandeliers: along with the band members, their girlfriends and the groupies, there was an audience of vulnerable children who watched as the mayhem unfolded. Tragic: Jake's socialite parents Susan 'Puss' Coriat and Tommy Weber Today Jake Weber is 46 and a successful Hollywood actor. It is to his credit that he survived this particular journey to the wilder fringes of celebrity life – although, in his own way, he too would later become a victim of the culture of drugs and hedonism that was celebrated so recklessly during that summer with the Stones in 1971. There had been something of the fairy tale in Jake’s own family background. His parents, who had married in 1964, had been regarded as one of Britain’s most beautiful couples, albeit with a dark, hidden secret. His mother was Susan ‘Puss’ Coriat, the exquisite but emotionally fragile heiress to a large trust fund. Susan was the daughter of Priscilla Chrystal Frances Blundell Weigall, who inherited a fortune worth the equivalent of £120 million today, and Harold Coriat, a land agent for Priscilla’s first husband, Viscount Edward Curzon. The family’s wealth came from Priscilla’s grandfather John Maple, who transformed a modest furniture store on Tottenham Court Road in London into the world’s largest luxury furniture empire during the Victorian era. Jake’s father was Tommy Weber, the son of a Danish aristocrat. Tommy’s grandfather was Reginald Evelyn Weber, a good friend of King George VI (they shared a love of stamp collecting) who built his fortune with the coffee, tea and spice importing firm Weber, Smith and Hoare. Tommy was a socialite and racing-car enthusiast who was also a notorious gambler and drug supplier to the rich and infamous – including the Stones. Puss became steadily more consumed by drug dependency and a thirst for spiritual fulfilment. She was being treated in a clinic in England when Tommy took Jake and his brother to France for Jagger’s May 1971 wedding – and stayed for five months. Jake says: ‘I remember it vividly. I was eight years old but I think that is the age when you first start to have vivid recall. I can remember the smells of Villa Nellcote, the roses in the garden, the sea foam when we went on the boat with Keith, the smoke and booze fumes that would hang in the air every morning when we would go downstairs.’ The Stones had fled to the mansion near Cannes, which was being rented by Richards for £1,000 a week, to escape Britain’s top tax rate of 93 per cent. Jake and his brother were given rooms at the very top of the mansion. They were not the only children there. Anita and Keith had brought their toddler son Marlon to the South of France and, according to Jake, there were other children who came and went. Presented with such freedom, Jake is happy to admit that he enjoyed his weeks at the mansion, for the most part at least. ‘I can’t complain and say how terrible it was because I don’t remember it like that. We were in a castle with endless toys, sandy beaches, food and sweets.’ Jake and his new summertime playmates enjoyed the treats to the full. ‘The adults were very kind to us,’ he says. ‘I had a rabbit and no one could figure out how to lift it out of its cage properly until Keith came along one day and grabbed it by the ears. I remember going out with Keith on his motorboat and he’d play at being a pirate and pretend to board the yachts in the harbour. My brother and I were pageboys at Mick and Bianca’s wedding. Those are the happy memories.’ He describes Anita Pallenberg as kind and nurturing, even though she admits to being ‘wasted’ on heroin at the time. Anita, who spent the summer in a striking leopard-print bikini, was pregnant with someone’s child, but was not entirely clear about the father. Pallenberg, a friend of Jake’s mother, had slept with both Jagger and Richards that summer. Jake recalls: ‘Anita always made sure we ate and were dressed well. I knew what was going on with the drugs and sex. You would have to be blind not to see it. There was dope and lots of cocaine and heroin. People would be wasted but no one was ever unkind to me and my brother. ‘We were allowed to wander freely around. There was no such thing as “bed time” – you just took yourself off when you felt tired. The days were endlessly sunny. We had a series of chefs who would cook you anything you wanted. There would be piles of pastries alongside the bottles of wine for breakfast. ‘My brother and I never drank or did drugs. We were too young. We would dance around the room to Brown Sugar while everyone else got stoned.’ If he survived Villa Nellcote, the wider consequences of the drug culture that surrounded him were inescapable. ‘Yes, there was a dark side too,’ he concedes. His handsome father, for example, preferred louche living to spending time with his boys. ‘My father didn’t know how to be a father,’ says Jake. ‘He would be off doing drugs or having sex. I did my own thing and was happy to sit and watch Mick and Keith create long into the night.’ Tommy had recently ended an affair with the actress Charlotte Rampling and had told his sons that their mother would join them at the villa, once she had completed her rehabilitation. Her experimentation with LSD had led to schizophrenia and a period of hospitalisation, including electroshock therapy. Pallenberg and Puss had became friends at Bowden House, a rehab clinic in Harrow. They met in March 1971 when both checked in to Bowden, which at the time was dubbed ‘a drying-out paddock for the rich and famous’ by the Press. Both regularly left the clinic to party in London and, according to Tommy, Puss confessed she and Anita enjoyed a ‘brief but satisfying’ lesbian affair. He later told his children that while he believed Puss was planning to travel to the villa to reconcile with him, she may also have been coming to rekindle her romance with Pallenberg. Whatever the motive, the eagerly awaited reunion would never take place. On June 7, 1971, Richards received an urgent telegram from London and Tommy was left to break the news to his two sons that their mother, newly released from the clinic, had died. At first Jake was told it was an accident, but later he was to learn that she had taken her own life with an overdose of prescription pills. She was just 27. Jake says: ‘When my brother and I were told of the death I remember us both breaking into pathetic sobs, and then for a couple of weeks I was in a haze of grief. ‘My father was not capable of looking after us on his own. But the group at the villa rallied round. We were surrounded by people who loved us and cared for us, even though they were out of their minds most of the time. That’s how we made it through. I don’t think they were bad people, it was just a different time, a different era.’ Neither of the boys attended the funeral, which was thought to be too distressing an occasion. Instead, they remained at the villa for the rest of the summer. Today, almost 40 years on, Jake lives with his long-time partner, actress Liz Carey, and their four-year-old son Waylon in a sprawling home near the ocean in Malibu. He has worked steadily as an actor in films such as The Pelican Brief, Meet Joe Black and Dawn Of The Dead and now stars opposite Patricia Arquette in the hit US drama Medium. For this is he grateful to his wealthy godfather, American businessman Peter van Gerbig, who had been best man at Tommy and Puss’s wedding and took Jake under his wing. Van Gerbig not only paid for his education, he encouraged him to go to Juilliard, America’s top acting school. Jake was nearly 13 when he arrived in the States. The plan had been to bring his younger brother over too but, says Jake, van Gerbig had a new family of his own and bringing Charley over too ‘became too much’. The siblings would not see each other for years. Charley remained with Tommy in England and did not fare so well. His father squandered every penny on drugs. In a book about the Webers, A Day In The Life, Charley told author Robert Greenfield: ‘I had to give Dad my last five quid so he could get a fix.’ Charley ended up living on friends’ couches and even endured a brief period on the streets before pulling his life together. Jake says: ‘My brother had some very tough times. He was there one time when Dad overdosed on heroin. He suffered more than I did.’ Tommy Weber was repeatedly arrested and convicted for possession of heroin and cannabis as well as drink-driving. He ended up serving 11 months in prison. In 1982, Jake saw his father for the first time in years. Tommy gave him a letter which read: ‘Jake, there is a very important secret to life. Work is much more interesting than play and if you are lucky enough to be able to make your work your play and your play pay, well, then you’re in clover.’ Jake says his relationship with his brother, so close at the villa, also suffered. ‘Once I moved to America we were in different worlds.’ In September 2006, after years of ill-health and a series of heart attacks, Tommy was diagnosed with a cancerous tumour on his liver. His veins had collapsed through drug use and nurses were forced to inject pain edication into the soles of his feet. He died on September 21, 2006, aged 66. Charley still lives in England and works as a film editor. Despite his exposure to the Stones’ rock-and-roll lifestyle, Jake says he has never been tempted by the excesses he witnessed during the Exile On Main Street period. He says: ‘I think round parents often have square children. I enjoy a cocktail but that’s as far as it goes. I have my own family, my own home, and I treasure what I have built for myself.’ But the summer of 1971 remains with him in the sharpest and most colourful detail. He says: ‘I treasure my memories and of being a very small part of a moment in history.’ By chance, a couple of years ago Jake bumped into Mick Jagger in the garden of Hollywood’s Chateau Marmont hotel. Jake recalls: ‘I went up to him and told him I was Tommy Weber’s son, Jake. He looked at me for a while and said, “Oh right, that was a long time ago, wasn’t it?” ‘He was with some other people so I excused myself and went back to my table. That was that.’ Jagger later left the hotel without pausing to say goodbye. ‘He’s moved on ... and so have I,’ says Jake. Exile, an exhibition of photographs by Dominique Tarle from the Stones’ time at Villa Nellcote, is at the Atlas Gallery, 49 Dorset Street, London W1 (020 7224 4192), from July 15 to August 31. Prints are available to buy in advance of the opening in association with Raj Prem Fine Art Photography. The Daily Mail |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Trey Krimsin on May 23rd, 2010 at 10:00am Steel Wheels wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 9:24pm:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 10:12am The Rolling Stones' forbidden documentary "Exile on Main St.'s" rerelease is revelatory, but even better is the concert film quashed for four decades Saturday, May 22, 2010 14:01 ET By Sam Adams Mick Jagger in San Francisco in 1972 AP The remastered sound of the Rolling Stones' "Exile on Main St.," reissued this week to much carefully orchestrated fanfare, brings the decadent double album out of the dank basement and out into the light. The clatter of Charlie Watts' sticks on the rim of his drum kit rings out like horse's hooves on "Hip Shake," and Mick Jagger's voice rises out of the famously murky mix on "Torn and Frayed." But "Exile's" sonic polish is small potatoes compared to what awaits on the DVD available only with the album's "super deluxe" (and super expensive) edition. Sandwiched in between excerpts from Steven Kijak's making-of documentary, which screened at Cannes this week, and a pair of clips from Hal Ashby's concert doc, "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones," [sic] is 11 minutes from Robert Frank's legendary and elusive "Cocksucker Blues," the quasi-documentary that the Stones have effectively suppressed for nearly four decades. Owing to ongoing legal difficulties, the rest of "Cocksucker Blues" is unlikely to see legitimate release, but many of those who've seen it regard it as one of the greatest rock movies ever made. The Stones hired Frank, the still photographer best known for the stark monograph "The Americans," to document the run-up to "Exile's" 1972 release and the accompanying tour, the band's first U.S. jaunt since their disastrous free concert at Altamont Speedway, a would-be Woodstock where a man was fatally stabbed in the middle of "Under My Thumb." After holing up in the basement of Richards' chateau in the south of France, where much of "Exile" was recorded, they were ready to meet their American public again, and they wanted Frank along for the ride. It's hard to know what the Stones expected from Frank, whose previous films, including the Beat landmark "Pull My Daisy" (1959), showed little interest in conventional narrative of either the fiction or nonfiction variety. (At one point, Frank theorized he was chosen because his friend Danny Seymour, who appears in the film, was adept at procuring hard drugs, which made him a valuable commodity in the Stones' circle.) In any case, the Stones didn't like what they saw -- or at the very least considered it unwise to release. According to one account, Jagger told Frank he liked the film but worried that "if it shows in America, we'll never be allowed in the country again." The band successfully sued to prevent the release of "Cocksucker Blues," with showings limited to those at which Frank was physically present (a requirement that has been slightly loosened in recent years as the 85-year-old Frank's ability to travel has been curtailed). Video was verboten as well, of course, although VHS bootlegs and now Internet downloads have always been within the reach of the curious and determined. It's also made appearances on various streaming video sites, although its tenure is inevitably short-lived. "Cocksucker Blues" is infamous for its scenes of debauchery, like an incipient orgy on the Stones' private plane where women shriek as their shirts are pulled off and Jagger and Richards bang instruments like a satanic house band. (Carefully edited snippets appear on the "Exile" DVD, although the Glimmer Twins now seem to preside over a mild outbreak of tickle fighting.) But such spectacles would hardly have damaged the reputation of a band whose image was based in excess. And besides, the Stones are absent for many of the movie's most notorious scenes, including those in which unidentified hangers-on stick needles in their arm and a sperm-spattered naked woman sprawls on a hotel bed and fingers her crotch in postcoital reverie. What was perhaps more damaging -- and, to the outside observer, most intriguing -- is just how dull the life of the world's biggest rock 'n' roll band could be. At times, Frank goes out of his way to portray the drudgery of life on the road, as when he intercuts footage of a couple shooting up in a hotel room with scenes of Keith Richards quietly playing cards. In one sublime sequence, included on the "Exile" DVD, a lugubrious Richards makes a slurred and unsuccessful attempt to order a bowl of fruit from a woman in a Southern hotel. KEITH RICHARDS: Do you have any fresh fruit? ROOM SERVICE: Well, like strawberries or blueberries? KR: Strawberries and blueberries. RS: How many orders? KR: Would you send up, like, a bowl? RS: Oh, no. It goes by the order. KR: That's very comp … Why don't you just make a nice selection of fruit and send it up. You know, use your own discretion. RS: Well, look, you've got two melon. Will I send you one order of strawberries and one order of blueberries, then? KR: Have you got a … What about an apple? RS: Apple? Well, I can get you an apple, yes. KR: Can you get us, like, three apples? RS: [Pause] Just a minute, please. There's concert footage as well, much of it astonishing; many fans regard the 1972 tour as the Stones' finest hour. It's a shame the "Exile" DVD only shows us the second half of their duet with Stevie Wonder, who toured as their opening act, picking up with "Satisfaction" but omitting the segue out of Wonder's "Uptight (Everything's Alright)." But the vividly colored stage performances only heighten the dolorous feel of the black-and-white behind-the-scenes footage. In his novel "Underworld," whose third section is named for the film, Don DeLillo described it thus: "The camera phalanx in the tunnels. People sitting around, two people asleep in a lump or tripped out or they could be unnoticeably dead, the endless noisy boredom of the tour -- tunnels and runways." The torpid tenor of "Cocksucker Blues" is in marked contrast to the antic frenzy of "Charlie Is My Darling," Peter Whitehead's documentary of the Stones' 1965 Irish tour, which has also never been released on video in its entirety. "Charlie," which turns up on YouTube from time to time, is a far more lighthearted affair, somewhere between the Beatlemaniac antics of "A Hard Day's Night" and the arm's-length vérité of Wolf Koenig and Roman Kroiter's "Lonely Boy," their sociological portrait of a young Paul Anka. Scoring his footage with marching-band arrangements of the Stones' greatest hits, Whitehead's tone is gently mocking but also genuinely fascinated, particularly by the band's cross-generational appeal. Eager grannies and self-serious undergrads turn out to see them as well as frenzied teenagers, whose fervor sometimes puts them in physical jeopardy. The film shows fans rushing the stage and jumping on various band members, and one unlucky woman being carried out on a stretcher. Given that "Charlie" has been released on DVD, but with all the songs edited out, the likely culprit for its unavailability is the thorny subject of music rights, the same factor that kept Robert Altman's "California Split" and Monte Hellman's "Two-Lane Blacktop" off the shelf for years. But by the time of "Cocksucker Blues," the Stones owned everything with their name on it, including their songs and the film itself. The quality of the excerpts on the "Exile" DVD obliterates the equivalent sequences in bootleg copies, suggesting that a decent print and a digital transfer of at least sections of it are somewhere in the vaults. It's unlikely, almost unthinkable, that the entire movie will ever see proper release, and perhaps that's as it should be. "Cocksucker Blues" makes sense as samizdat, a blurry, blue-tinged artifact passed from one person to the next, surfacing briefly on one website or other but always being taken down, shoved back underground. But then, as Jagger sings on "Exile's" first song, "The sunshine bores the daylights out of me." salon.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 23rd, 2010 at 11:51am LadyJane wrote on May 21st, 2010 at 9:03pm:
It hasnt been released for a full week in the US yet - your chart week runs from Tuesday to Monday. I think it's published on Wednesdays. UK chart is usually available at around 7 pm. So, just over an hour or so. You'll get it here - http://www.theofficialcharts.com/ I must admit I didnt expect a reissue of a 38 year old album that didnt sell in huge numbers in the first place to even make the top 20 in the UK. I'm absolutely stunned that it's looking like it could be a chart topper. An incredible promotional campaign by Universal (and the Stones themselves) that we're even discussing this. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 23rd, 2010 at 11:59am Mel Belli wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 9:36am:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:25pm Mick Jagger: 'My upbringing kept me stable' In Cannes for his film about the Rolling Stones's summer of exile in France, Sir Mick Jagger talks to Martyn Palmer about that hedonistic time – and why he's thankful for his middle-class roots. Published: 7:00AM BST 23 May 2010 Mick Jagger and L'Wren Scott arrive for the screening of "Stones in Exile" during the 63rd Cannes Film Festival Photo: AP For a few moments it's hard to reconcile the dapper, rather conservatively dressed 66-year-old lounging on the rooftop terrace of one of the Côte d'Azur's most luxurious seafront hotels with the younger, wilder version captured on camera in all his rock star pomp and glory. The previous evening, Sir Mick Jagger, speaking fluent, faultless French, had introduced the premiere of Stones In Exile at the Cannes Film Festival, a new documentary that charts the making of what is regarded as one of the finest albums in rock history amid scenes of bacchanalian excess. It really was sex, drugs and rock-and-roll – and it's remarkable that their 1972 masterpiece, Exile on Main Street, emerged from such mayhem. "We were young, good-looking and stupid," he told the audience. "Now we're just stupid." Sir Mick today – blue checked shirt, smart grey trousers, Nike trainers and Gucci sunglasses – is whip-thin and undeniably healthy. He looks like one of the ultra-wealthy movers and shakers who flock to the Cannes Film Festival to make a deal. Which, indeed, is what he is – he produced the film and worked closely with director Stephen Kijak, unearthing unseen footage from the Stones' own archive. It must be odd, I suggest, to look at one's younger self in such detail. "It's a bit like poring over a family album," he says. "I'm not nostalgic for that time, but it was a good time and it was interesting to look at what was there." There was a dark side to this particular rock family, of course. What happened over those long, hot summer months of 1971 in Provence – just an hour's drive away from where Jagger sits today – has become the stuff of rock legend, as the band recorded in the basement of guitarist Keith Richards's Villa Nellcote, and a rapidly increasing group of hangers-on partied around them. Richards and his then-partner, Anita Pallenberg, were both descending into heroin addiction; bass player Bill Wyman was desperately homesick for Branston pickle and English milk; and guitarist Mick Taylor – who had replaced original member Brian Jones who had died in 1969 – was overawed by the rock star lifestyle on display. Jagger himself remembers it all with affection. "I don't regret anything and I'm very fond of all of it. It was a wonderful time. You can paint it in a very dark manner – you know, it was decadent – and, yes, it was quite decadent – but decadence is very enjoyable. "Was it dark? Yes, it was dark. But it was also a very beautiful place. We were in France in the sun and, even though we had no money, we all managed to rent beautiful houses. I had a wonderful house near Antibes with a swimming pool and a lovely lawn. I enjoyed my time in the south of France. It got a bit crazy at the end – there were all these hangers-on – but we just closed up and left." Back in those days, the rebel Stones were under siege, fleeing Britain, where the Inland Revenue were hot on their trail in pursuit of unpaid taxes. Despite almost a decade of hits and sell-out tours, they were penniless, thanks to bad management and a punitive UK tax rate of 90p in the pound. Moving to the south of France to record a new album, after their acrimonious split with manager Allen Klein, seemed like the best solution. "It was the most convenient thing to do financially," says Jagger. "Taxes were very punitive and, through our own fault and other people's fault, we had not been very good at looking after our money. It was just that time. If it had been 20 years later, we wouldn't have had that same problem. "We were broke. But we got money from the record company to fund our album, otherwise we wouldn't have been able to come down here and live in a nice way. We had a lot of back taxes to pay and that was the only way we could do it at that time." Although each of the five Stones had their own villas, they recorded in the basement of Richards's rented house, which quickly became party central. Jagger admits that he took drugs, but never went as far as Richards. "We all did excessive things, but I don't remember it being particularly bad in the south of France. [In the film] you see it like it is, it's a very pleasant place, really. I've had a lot of unstable moments – everyone does in their life – but I had a very centred upbringing." Jagger grew up in Dartford, Kent, in a stable, middle-class family, the eldest of two boys. His parents – Basil, a teacher, and Eva, a hairdresser – instilled values that kept him from going off the rails, he says. "Yes, I think so. When you are young and you have a very close family life, it helps you be centred for later. If you don't have a very stable upbringing, I think it can be difficult." He has seven children himself, by four different mothers, including four with Jerry Hall. Their eldest daughter, Elizabeth, 26, is now working as a model and actress. "We talk a lot," he says. "We chat about the business she's in. What advice do I give her? Don't take it too seriously. And don't take life too seriously – always remember that it's a passing fad." While Richards and the hangers-on partied at his villa, Jagger would drop in to record and then retreat to the tranquillity of his own rented house. "I was pretty centred. I had a very nice house and garden, and a really nice swimming pool – and I never had anything quite like that before. I had a friend who was a falconer who used to come and train his falcons in my garden. That was very restful. It wasn't mad, really, for me, to be honest." Drugs have become part of the myth surrounding the Stones, and while Jagger – who married his first wife, Bianca, during the exile in France – may have stayed away from the worst excesses, the film does have some shocking moments. Not least, the son of one of the backing musicians [sic] – at the time just eight years old – telling the film-makers that his main function was to roll joints for whoever wanted them. "You don't see anything that bad, do you?" Jagger protests in mock outrage. "Lots of children running around rolling joints. And, you know, people making music. It's pretty much what I imagine most people think being in a rock band is all about. "But yes, you are right to a certain extent, excess was the order of the day. But you get excesses now in consumption of other things like consumer goods." His attitude to drugs today is still controversial, suggesting on an American TV chat show recently that all drugs should be legalised, with a trial period where they are decriminalised in a small, contained community, such as the Isle of Man. "Legalising drugs is an issue that every government, and every police force, in fact, has done studies on. I think the British police force came out at one point and said they thought they should be legalised. "It's a subject fraught with difficulties because it's not an easy thing to do. You can't just tick it off and go, 'OK, all drugs are legalised…'. But having drugs illegal is so much of a problem because, as the police in any country will tell you, there's a lot of violence at the user-end of drugs, people steal money to get drugs, and so on. And at the other end, the supply end of the chain, there's a lot of violence too, as you see in Mexico now, for instance. "So that's what I said. And I said if you want to try legalising it, you should do it in a small community – and I jocularly said that when they have a new mobile phone system, they always try it out in the Isle of Man. After I'd said it, I thought: 'Oh, either they are going to love this on the Isle of Man or they are going to hate it…' I also said Iceland and then I thought, 'Oh God, Iceland, the banking crisis and then the volcano, and now I'm saying they should legalise drugs there and they're not going to like it…' "It was slightly jocular. But there is a seriousness there – they did try legalising drugs in Amsterdam and the rest of Holland, with varied results, you might say. There were good results and not-so-good results. I think it's good to have a debate, an ongoing debate, and it's a very serious issue, but it is an issue that needs to be addressed because the violence of the supplier has got really, really bad. If you ask any police force, a lot of the crimes they deal with have to do with drugs." Jagger has been out of the country since Britain's new coalition government took power. Although he doesn't reveal which party he voted for, he is intrigued by the Conservative-Liberal pact, and hopes that the alliance will bring radical changes to the country. "I'm very interested in politics, and I think it's fascinating what's going on. Every day is something different, and we'll see how radical the change is. "The thing about society is that you get a government, and society changes either very little or a lot. During the Thatcher years, there was a big change in society; even during the Blair years, even though it was a bit imperceptible, there was a large change in society. We were in a bit of a holding pattern with the Gordon Brown government, and everyone knew we were. It was sort of more of the same for the last two years." Jagger today has a personal fortune estimated at more than £300 million. The time in Provence recording Exile On Main Street marked a sea change in the financial fortunes of the band, and they went on to become one of the most successful groups of all time. Creatively, though, they never quite scaled the heights of that remarkable, eclectic album infused with blues, country and soul. The reissued album, with six bonus tracks [sic] unearthed and reworked by Jagger and co, is on course today to become the band's first number one in 16 years. "It's my finest hour!" he laughs. "Well, it's certainly good and it was certainly a creative period. It's a very good album but whether it's the best, I don't know. I don't really have favourites." The Stones have tentative plans for a limited tour where they would perform the album in its entirety. And he will keep on working until he drops, because, well, that's what he does. "Everyone's life comes to an end. We'll all die, we all have the same fate, but I think you should just keep going while you can, doing what you like." Stones in Exile' is on BBC One, tonight at 10.25pm, and will be released on DVD next month The Telegraph |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:37pm
#1 in UK!!! :blankfriggingstare1
1. (RE) EXILE ON MAIN STREET (Rolling Stones) 31 wks 2. (NEW) THE DANCE (Faithless) 1 wk 3. (2) THE DEFAMATION OF STRICKLAND BANKS (Plan B) 6 wks 4. (NEW) STRIKE! (Baseballs) 1 wk 5. (4) THE FAME (Lady Gaga) 71 wks |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:42pm Congrats to the Stones - and UMG. What's up with the 31 weeks, though? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:49pm
Finally listened to the new Exile with headphones, and was completely amazed.
UnFuckingReal upgrade to my ears. I'm hearing clearly many things that were buried in previous releases. This makes me really excited to hear what they do to Sticky Fingers. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:50pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:42pm:
31 weeks on chart (or 17 on the Official Top 75): UK Date: 10/06/1972 - Run: *1*-3-4-5-6-11-14-11-16-19-18-27-40-39-34-30 (16/5/1 wks) Re #01: 03/06/1995 140 (1 wk, 17 wsf) Re #02: 14/06/1997 143-127-193 (3 wks, 20 wsf) Re #03: 12/06/1999 197 (1 wk, 21 wsf) Re #04: 02/02/2002 191-165 (2 wks, 23 wsf) Re #05: 06/04/2002 194 (1 wk, 24 wsf) Re #06: 30/08/2003 196-107-159 (3 wks, 27 wsf) Re #07: 09/10/2004 187 (1 wk, 28 wsf) Re #08: 17/09/2005 184-198 (2 wks, 30 wsf) Re #09: 29/05/2010 *1* (1 wk) Total # of weeks: 31-16c |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:57pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:58pm Soldatti wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:50pm:
Thanks for clarifying that, Soldatti. What's "wsf"? FWIW, the Official UK charts site lists one week... :-? Still - one week or 31, it's all good. :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:00pm
This band has promise I tell you. :wtf3
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:01pm
official
http://www.theofficialcharts.com/ Fucking incredible First act EVER to top the charts in five different decades (would have been six had they sold 11 more copies of 40 Licks, released the same week as Elvis' 30 Number 1s album) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SteelVoodoo on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:12pm
AMAZING!!!
The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World has returned to the top. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:17pm Gazza wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:01pm:
Missed it by 11! Wow... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:28pm
Very impressive indeed. Wasn't 40 Licks a hits compilation? (I know, I could Google it)
I'm gonna have to buy the vinyl release of Exile. This will be my 9th purchase of Exile on vinyl, as I kept losing it or lent it out without ever getting it back. But for this audio upgrade, it will be a pleasure. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:32pm Gazza wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 12:57pm: YES! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:44pm fuman wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:28pm:
Yep. 36 hits, plus four new songs - 'Don't Stop', 'Keys To Your Love', 'Stealing My Heart' and 'Losing My Touch'. BTW, if you'd bought it, they would've only been 10 short... ;) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:00pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:44pm:
Ha, good one. Shortly after 40 Licks came out, I made a compilation of Mick Taylor's Love In Vain solos (the 2nd solo, mostly '72 & '73 stuff). I called it 41 Licks . . . It's one lick better than the Stones new 40 Licks. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:03pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 1:17pm:
Thats in the UK. It did top the charts in some countries and even topped the Global Charts. Hell, I think even 'Streets of Love' topped the Italian singles charts. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:06pm
Ironic that every time anyone talks about the charts or posts 'polls' which show the Stones trailing badly, we all scoff at the appalling taste that the general public has......
The greatest album of all time is number 1 in the charts. Again. And they didnt have to rely on a posthumous cash-in to achieve it either. There's hope for civilization yet. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:12pm Gazza wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:03pm:
#2 in the US, too. Hit us with some numbers, Soldatti! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:13pm
what we do™
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:28pm Gazza wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:06pm:
Most of civilization, anyway... Looks like that 'Glee' album is outpacing 'Exile' by a good margin in the US - www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi :wtf3 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:45pm
Stones number 1 just in time for the 'Stones in Exile' documentary tonight.
terrific stuff. Oh, and if you're reading this, Mick - remember this comment? "Let's see how well this one does, shall we? If it does shit, I'm not going through all this again...". We've done OUR bit. Now it's YOUR turn. So get back to those vaults at 9 am sharp tomorrow. Love & hugs Your pal, Gazza |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by glen384 on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:51pm
I was just going to post much the same thoughts, Yay number 1. :keithpunky
Come on Mick get to it! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:54pm
What channel (U.S.) & time is Exile documentary on tonight?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:59pm 'Stones In Exile' was shown on NBC's "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" last Friday. Tonight's airing is on the BBC. Don't think it's been scheduled on BBC America. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by dadrob on May 23rd, 2010 at 3:25pm
wasn't it supposed to air on USA network?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by PartyDoll MEG on May 23rd, 2010 at 3:28pm Gazza wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 2:45pm:
Please add my name to your letter! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 23rd, 2010 at 3:33pm dadrob wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 3:25pm:
Remember reading that a while back. NBC Universal owns USA Network, so they must've decided to "keep" it. Of course it could show up on USA at a later date - after the DVD's released. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 23rd, 2010 at 6:16pm
Best news of the day!
Mick : "even though we had no money, we all managed to rent beautiful houses" I've been wondering about that as well, Prince Rupert helped them out ? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by moy on May 23rd, 2010 at 7:49pm
A Facebook campaign for an Exile-era Rolling Stones reunion
By Jay Lustig/The Star-Ledger May 23, 2010, 7:22PM Stan Honda/AFP/Getty Images Rolling Stones (L-R) Charlie Watts, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards arrive at a screening of the documentary "Stones In Exile" at the Museum of Modern Art in New York on May 11. Inspired by the successful fan campaign to get Betty White hired as a "Saturday Night Live" host, and the recent re-release of the Rolling Stones' 1972 album, "Exile On Main St.," a New Jersey music journalist has started a Facebook page to encourage the early-'70s Rolling Stones fivesome -- Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor -- to reunite for an tour. You can't always get what you want, but still, it's an intriguing idea. There aren't many great bands from that area whose members are all still living. (And, given the prodigious amount of partying these guys did, it's a marvel they are all still around.) Still, Taylor left the band in 1974, and Wyman departed in 1992. Taylor did play some guitar, though, on a bonus track included in the "Exile" reissue package. The Facebook page was started by Chris M. Junior of Manville, who has written for the Asbury Park Press and other publications. To go to the page, click here |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 23rd, 2010 at 8:11pm moy wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 7:49pm:
Facebook.....Yeah that'll work. :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 24th, 2010 at 4:41am
From Music Week:
"The battle for artist album chart honours was an intriguing one this week, pitching the repackaged Rolling Stones classic Exile On Main Street against Faithless’ new set, The Dance. The Stones took an early lead but their advantage was whittled away to the extent that it looked as though it would be the third time in a row they would have had a midweek sales advantage overturned and end as runners-up in less than eight years, replicating the fate of 2002's Forty Licks and their last studio album, 2005’s A Bigger Bang. In the end, however, the Stones prevailed, with Exile On Main Street racking up sales of 31,287, over a thousand more than The Dance. It’s the album’s first appearance in the chart since 1972 when, as a double vinyl set, it reached number one in a 16-week stay on the list. That is a much shorter chart run than many of the band’s other albums but even before its upgrade it was by far the most popular album in the band’s catalogue, outselling nearest challenger Sticky Fingers by 25% in the 16 years of the Millward Brown/OCC era. Faithless topped the chart with fourth studio album No Roots in 2004, and returned to the summit the following year with Forever Faithless: The Greatest Hits. However, their subsequent album To All New Arrivals, peaked at a lowly number 30, precipitating the band’s departure from Sony – but that album was released at the end of November so its sales on that first week, despite its poor chart performance, were 28,198 – just 6.04% less than the 29,901 copes that The Dance sold last week. Debuting at number two, The Dance is the first release on Faithless’ own label Nate’s Tune – named after a two minute instrumental on To All New Arrivals – and comes hot on the heels of first single, Not Going Home, which debuted and peaked at number 42 a fortnight ago. LCD Soundsystem achieve their best chart placing to date, debuting at number seven (13,224 sales) with new album This Is Happening, easily besting the number 20 peak of the New York dance/punk act’s self-titled 2005 debut. Debuting even more strongly, German rock ‘n’ roll revivalists The Baseballs enter at number four (18,212 sales) with their first album Strike!, which has been a hit over much of Europe. The album features tongue-in-cheek retro style versions of contemporary hits like Umbrella, Don’t Cha and Bleeding Love. After debuting last week at number one, Keane’s Night Train crashes to number six (13,934 sales)." SUMMARY ALBUMS 01 Rolling Stones (31,287) 02 Faithless (29,901) 04 Baseballs (18,212) 05 Lady GaGa (15,808) 06 Keane (13,934) 07 LCD Soundsystem (13,224) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 24th, 2010 at 4:42am
"In fact best to deal with that straight away, for the biggest selling album of the week is extraordinarily not one of the big new releases by some up to date artists, but instead an album which is no less than 38 years old this month. 'Exile On Main St.' is the disc in question, the tenth album released by the Rolling Stones and home to the Top 10 hit single 'Tumbling Dice'. First released in June 1972, the album shot straight to Number One, although its chart life was short lived and it dropped off the listings for the final time in late September. The occasion of 'Exile On Main St.'s chart return is a brand new remastered version which adds 10 new tracks and features alternate takes of two more. To general amazement the album has outsold everything else on the market this week to take a masterful turn at the top of the charts.
Needless to say this shatters all manner of chart records. Never before has an album returned to Number One almost 38 years after it was last at that position, and never before has any act re-released one of their old collections more or less intact and seen it storm the charts in the manner it did when first recorded. Not even the arrival of the CD era in the 80s and the non stop appearance of newly mastered versions of classic albums managed to produce a golden oldie Number One. What the Rolling Stones have done here is a genuine chart first." http://new.uk.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chartwatch/11255/week-ending-may-29th-2010/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 24th, 2010 at 6:15am
More impressively, Soldatti, is that this success wasn't achieved posthumously.
Usually it takes the demise of a performer to see their old releases race to the top of the charts - Elvis, John Lennon, Michael Jackson, etc due to this quite bizarre and surreal 'guilt trip' phenomenon that the public have when someone dies and they suddenly develop an appreciation for their work. For an act who are not only still alive, but still in existence as a band to do it is incredible. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 24th, 2010 at 6:19am moy wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 7:49pm:
Wyman doesn't fly anywhere. Taylor's in poor health and there's the delicate fact that Ronnie Wood is still a band member. Something tells me Chris hasn't quite thought this through. ::) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on May 24th, 2010 at 6:37am
Rolling with rock royalty
New Bedford native’s film traces Stones’ ‘Exile’ days By Wesley Morris, Globe Staff | May 24, 2010 CANNES, France — If so much of movie-industry success combines talent and luck, Stephen Kijak’s luck is that he’s talented. The New Bedford native is sitting on a rooftop from which you can see the Mediterranean, basking in his moment at the world’s biggest film festival. His hourlong documentary, “Stones in Exile,’’ arrives on DVD in June. It premiered with a lot of hoopla last week at a sold-out screening in the Director’s Fortnight program of the Cannes Film Festival. Outside the theater, people crowded the barricades eager to see and scream at Mick Jagger (“Meek! Meek!’’). Inside, it was a more civilized version of the same. Kijak, 40, who participated with Jagger in a post-screening Q&A, found the euphoria a little surreal. “People love Mick,’’ he said the following day. “To have had that life since you were in your 20s and to have been at the forefront of what’s made you famous, that’s astonishing. For me, just being near all that is a little insane.’’ And to think it happened in almost less than a year. Jagger and his longtime producing partner, Victoria Lee Pearman, wanted to add a film to the list of goodies they planned to accompany a remastering of the Rolling Stones’ 1972 classic, “Exile on Main Street,’’ which was recently released. In the search for a director who could give them what they wanted (“something impressionistic,’’ said Pearman, “and no bloody talking heads’’), they watched scores of documentaries. One they found especially impressive: Kijak’s “Scott Walker — 30 Century Man.’’ Made in 2007, produced by David Bowie, and nominated for the British equivalent of the Oscar, “Scott Walker’’ is an energetic but wistful documentary about the American-born pop singer who became a British sensation in the 1960s then vanished. In 2009, Kijak (pronounced “kayak’’) received what he described as a short, cryptic e-mail from Pearman. “It said she was president of Mick’s production company and what was my availability,’’ Kijak said. “She didn’t say what it was about or for.’’ Kijak did the sensible thing. “I just said, ‘I’m available!’ Miraculously, it was ‘Exile on Main Street.’ When I heard that, I was over the moon. That’s the greatest record ever. When do we start?’’ This is quite a moment Kijak is caught up in. The ballyhooed return of “Exile’’ has reignited the debate about both the record’s greatness and the band’s physical condition when it recorded some portions of the album in Keith Richards’s villa in 1971, an hour or so from Palais Stephanie, where Kijak’s movie had its premiere. Last week, Jimmy Fallon dedicated an entire evening of his talk show to the record and clips from the film. This sort of collective enthusiasm for today’s pop music is rare, let alone for a 38-year-old double album. At its best, “Exile’’ is the pinnacle of the band’s studio recordings. At worst, it’s imitative of country, blues, and soul but still a very, very good imitation. Either way, the legend around the record has crystallized into myth. Drowning in back taxes, the Stones decamped to the South of France, where they managed to record despite drugs, debauchery, and dissent among the musicians. The highs and lows are captured in Dominique Tarlé’s photographs of the band in and around Richards’s villa and in Robert Frank’s still-unreleased 1972 tour documentary. Frank and the Stones continue to argue over the film, which the band commissioned but didn’t like. Frank says he made the movie he wanted. According to a court order, it can’t be shown unless he’s present, although bootlegs aren’t hard to find. The commission put Kijak in the awkward position of being another authorized Stones collaborator. What if he was given the Frank treatment? Kijak, Pearman, and Jagger each said that was never a problem. “I’m always trying to be as careful as possible choosing the directors to do the work,’’ Jagger said, sitting with a handful of reporters. With Kijak, he says, “Either I was lucky or I made a great decision. Even though he’s not a famous director, he did a really good job.’’ Which is saying something for a man who’s worked with Jean-Luc Godard, Nicolas Roeg, and David Fincher. Kijak was given access to more than 40 hours of outtakes from Frank’s film. He could use Tarlé’s pictures. But the only film footage of the action at Richards’s villa was shot by the Stones’ then bassist, Bill Wyman, who Kijak says has locked it away. Working with the English artist-director Grant Gee, he filled in the gaps with minor visual and dramatic reconstructions, finding a production designer and a 16mm Canon Scoopic so the new images would match Frank’s. “As work-for-hire goes, we were given an incredible amount of freedom,’’ Kijak said, wearing dark jeans, slip-on sneakers, big Ray-Ban shades, and a seersucker jacket. He has a creamy baritone whose calm belied what he described as a level of disbelief about where his career is at the moment. Kijak’s proximity to rock royalty doesn’t appear to have fazed him. “I’ve always been into music,’’ he said. Kijak did album reviews for the Barnstable High School newspaper, Insight, and did time working at Spinnaker Records in Hyannis. He also says he grew up in a family of creative, beautiful people. His mother, JoAnn, was an actress, singer, and 1964’s Miss New Bedford. “My mom’s side is the arty side,’’ Kijak said. “My grandfather was a painter. My father’s side is more the hard-working salespeople, workers, real honest hard-working New Bedford stock. It’s a brilliant balance, actually, between the ethereal and the practical. They came to London for the ‘Scott Walker’ premiere. They would have loved Cannes.’’ Kijak’s first film after college was a feature he released in 1996 called “Never Met Picasso,’’ with Alexis Arquette and Margot Kidder, who played Lois Lane in the “Superman’’ movies. It was an intelligent, well made comedy about love and art. The young man who directed it seemed headed for a career making smart American independent movies with feeling and ideas. He also co-directed 2002’s “Cinemania,’’ an excellent cinéma-vérité-style documentary about five New York neurotics whose obsessive compulsion is movies. He also directed episodes of the makeover show “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.’’ How Kijak came to be at the center of all this British music is still a blur to him. “I was obsessed with British music growing up,’’ he said. “Mainly the Cure, New Order, Smiths, the usual. Then I just went backwards. It wasn’t until after the Scott Walker film that I was sort of burnt on that sound and started turning to old country and the blues. So [‘Exile’] came at a very good time.’’ The day after Kijak first heard from Pearman, they arranged to have lunch. She has a house on Martha’s Vineyard, and the Massachusetts connection between her and Kijak probably didn’t hurt. But the weather should have. “As soon as she picked me up from the ferry hail the size of golf balls rained down,’’ Kijak said. “It was June. Very weird. I took it as a good omen.’’ So did Pearman. Just as it seemed nothing was working for her or Jagger, they found Kijak. A freak storm wasn’t going to stop that. “I just felt this sense of relief,’’ she said. “I knew he was the one.’’ http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2010/05/24/new_bedford_native_rolls_with_rock_royalty_in_cannes/ |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 24th, 2010 at 9:06am gotdablouse wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 6:16pm:
and the UK 1971 tour, was a way to get some liquid cash flow... if any of us bitch again, about how they do biz nowadays, always remember, they learned the hardway, and once they got the formula down, they have kept at it... i'm not saying tix prices need to be so high, but the manner they do biz, was set at this time.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 24th, 2010 at 9:49am ‘Main St.’ Returns to the Limelight May 24, 2010, 10:29 am By BEN SISARIO Dominique Tarlé Mick Jagger during the making of “Exile on Main St.” in 1971. Never underestimate the marketing power of a blitz of Mick ‘n’ Keef interviews. The latest reissue of the Rolling Stones‘ 1972 album “Exile on Main St.” opened at No. 1 on the British chart this week, bringing the Stones to the top of the album chart there for the first time in 16 years, Billboard reported. “Exile” is the first release since the band signed a new catalog deal with Universal, in 2008, and Mick Jagger and Keith Richards seemingly turned down no interview to promote it, whether in Britain or in the United States. The reissue, with a bonus disc of outtakes and reconstructed material, won No. 1 in a close race with the popular British dance act Faithless. Sales numbers in the United States, which are compiled by Nielsen SoundScan, will not be released until Wednesday. But many music industry observers predict that “Exile” will likely be held off from No. 1 by the third volume of music from the Fox show “Glee.” The New York Times |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on May 24th, 2010 at 10:51am
I took the time Saturday to play the new remasters at heavy volume all the way through. Stunning and amazing are how they sounded. Had simply forgotten the majestic qualities of these songs. Bring on Some Girls redux!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 24th, 2010 at 12:38pm The Rolling Stones make the charts sound human again By Neil McCormick Last updated: May 24th, 2010 Mick & Keith: another long night at the coal face, Villa Nellcote. Pic Dominique Tarle The Rolling Stones are number one in the album charts with a sprawling, messy double album recorded 38 years ago. It helps that ‘Exile On Main Street’ is widely hailed as one the greatest albums ever made, and yet it is, paradoxically, comparatively obscure. It doesn’t have many hits on it (only Tumbling Dice shows up regularly on Stones compilations) and wasn’t particularly enthusiastically reviewed on release (I have a lovely quote from a young Ken Follet in one of my Stones books, in which the future best-selling author suggests that this album will kill their career, because “they seem to have reached a dead end”). But Exile has grown in reputation, partly because of the myths of its creation (which I have written about elsewhere) and partly because it is such a whole piece, a trawl through all kinds of roots American music by a band of talented players getting off on the sheer joy and exuberance of creation. In its re-mastered form, with an album’s worth of extra tracks, it is currently to be found everywhere (from newspapers to magazines to internet to radio and TV documentaries) being hailed as the definitive Stones album, which has no doubt contributed to its chart surge, as it is bought by its original fans and new generations of music lovers alike. Even Mick Jagger has been extolling its virtues, although he has never previously been one of its great champions, perhaps because it is generally hailed as Keith Richards’ masterpiece. Jagger has previously intimated that if it had a few more decent tunes, he might consider ranking it alongside ‘Beggars Banquet’ or ‘Let It Bleed’. Sadly, according to Watts, Jagger rejected the idea that the Stones play the entire album as an 18-song anniversary concert because it doesn’t give him enough to go on as a performer. But what does he know? He’s only the singer. I think its true that if you were to pick Exile apart and judge each track on its own merits, you might not find a lot to recommend it. There are some fantastic individual tracks spread across it (on the old vinyl, side three was always the one for me, comprising the gale force rock and roll of ‘Happy’, the hypnotic shuffle of ‘Turd On The Run’, the dark, droning ‘Ventilator Blues’, the instrumental voodoo groove ‘I Just Want To See His Face’ and the gorgeous, sweaty ballad ‘Let It Loose’) but song by song, it would certainly be no match for the Beatles White Album, to which, in its all-encompassing sprawl, it is often compared. But that is part of its joy. It’s a dense record, with gluey mixes, that really reeks of the basement in which it was recorded, where musicians would sit up all night playing, high as kites, and instruments kept going out of tune due to the humidity. It sounds utterly itself, dark, rhythmic, raw, bloody, abandoned rock and soul. And what is really amazing about this, as it sits once again at the top of the charts, is that you cannot imagine any major band making an album like this today. I was speaking on the radio to Irish DJ Dave Fanning, and we were enthusing about the gloriously sloppy rhythms and the sense of everything hanging together by its fingernails, with guitars going out of tune and harmonies going awry with whiskey, and he made the point that you could never even get a record like that on the radio now. It is the diametric opposite to everything brought in to playlist meetings, with quantized beats, autotuned vocals and an over-produced sheen of pristine synthetic gloss. Digital recording techniques favour perfection, where every beat and note can be separated and brought into perfect sync with every other, so that even commercial rock bands now (from U2 to Coldplay to Kings Of Leon) tend to sound slightly automated, with only the singer really bringing a human dimension. I’m not saying you can’t find those qualities on contemporary records (check out, for example, The Felice Brothers, whose virtues I have often extolled in this blog) but, for some reason, you don’t hear them on mainstream commercial radio anymore. Its as if programmers think such messy humanity might scare off their listeners. And yet, here the Stones stand, number one again, with their greatest and most glorious mess. One might hope that the popularity of Exile might make bands and radio programmers alike reconsider their aversion to the flaws that makes music human. But I don’t hold out much hope. We live in a pop age where Lady GaGa (a genuinely great vocalist) once said to me that she doesn’t use autotune because she can’t sing, she uses it because if the kids don’t hear it, they don’t think it’s a record. What is really shocking is that the ten tracks on the Exile bonus disc have all got this modern gloss, separated and bass boosted and cleaned up, with newly recorded vocals raised in the mix. Indeed, I have it on good authority that producer Don Was had explicit instructions from Jagger to mix the vocals higher as he thought they were too low on the original album, which just shows you that Jagger still doesn’t get it. Keith makes Jagger fight for his place in the song and his performances sound so much better for it, part of the fabric of the music rather than its focal point. The way Exile has been enthusiastically welcomed by music listeners shows that its not perfection we crave, it’s the human stuff of music: passion, feel, inspiration. I’d like to hear some of that on a modern rock record. When do you think we might hear a world beating band throw caution to the wind and just go into a studio and record a bunch of songs for the sheer joy of making music, not worrying about hooklines and singles and perfect mixes and even what the world would think of it when they emerge blinking into the light? I want to hear records that throw caution to the wind. In the meantime, I’m going back down into my basement to listen to ‘Exile On Main Street’ again. The Daily Telegraph |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 24th, 2010 at 12:46pm
Great article, yet in it's own way, somewhat depressing!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on May 24th, 2010 at 1:46pm From the Arts Section of Sunday's New York Times: Music Revisiting ‘Main St.,’ Rethinking the Myth By BEN RATLIFF Published: May 18, 2010 A lesser-known version of the Rolling Stones’ “Loving Cup,” found on the bonus disc of the new reissue of the band’s 1972 album, “Exile on Main St.,” seems to me the best thing the Stones ever did. It’s country gospel gone lurid, and it seems to rise up out of a nap. Nicky Hopkins’s piano chords circle around a G at slow tempo in an echoey room. Charlie Watts starts pumping a bass drum at the third beat of the second bar; he’s either late or early, but finding his way. Piano and drums roll up to the D chord at the beginning of the first verse, and Mick Taylor bends two guitar strings under Mick Jagger’s opening line: “I’m the man on the mountain — yes, come on up.” Onward, Mr. Watts weaves around the beat, smashing down on his high-hat, forming weird and clattering snare-drum fills. He both shapes and follows the group’s euphoria and the music’s subtle acceleration. The Stones gather around the song like pickpockets, jostling and interfering with it. Keith Richards, playing rhythm guitar and singing backup, quits harmonizing and starts to shout. This performance represents to me the sound of “Exile” in idealized form: a dark, dense, loosely played, semiconscious tour through American blues, gospel and country music, recorded in a basement in France. “Exile” was made around the Stones’ creative peak and in unusual circumstances: they were tax exiles, forced to live away from home. It is often called one of the best rock records ever made, and framed as an after-the-fact concept album: a wise horror show, an audio diary of rock stars finally facing the rigors of marriage, children and addiction. (“ ‘Exile’ is about casualties, and partying in the face of them,” the critic Lester Bangs wrote in 1972. “The party is obvious. The casualties are inevitable.”) The notion of the record as story also comes from the strong documentary images around its creation— Dominique Tarlé’s black-and-white pictures of the Stones at Villa Nellcôte, shirtless and dazed in the stifling air of a basement in the South of France. These images dot the 64-page booklet and the DVD film included in the reissue’s deluxe edition and have been part of the avalanche of press around the reissue, released by Universal on Tuesday. Recently, thinking about this alternate “Loving Cup” and why it’s not on the original album made me wonder what the ideal of “Exile” really is. I find most of “Exile” good, but not great. (That era of Stones music, fantastic. The album, not so much.) I can’t see it as a masterpiece, not only because I distrust the idea of masterpieces, but because I especially don’t want one from the Stones, who make songs and albums like birds’ nests — collaborative tangles with delicate internal balances — and have a history of great triage work, assembling bits and pieces recorded over a long period. But “Exile” remains the preference of the most judicious Stones fans. Why? What is its essence? It’s a tricky question. “Exile” can seem like a unity of sound, place and time; much has been made of the fact that one of its greatest songs, “Ventilator Blues,” was inspired by the discomfort of the basement studio at Nellcôte, Mr. Richards’s rented mansion on the French Riviera, with its one small air vent. You can make yourself hear that heat, if you want. But the recordings for “Exile” didn’t all happen in that basement. They stretched from 1969 to 1972, across the making of two other excellent and, to me, superior records — “Let It Bleed” and “Sticky Fingers.” It’s not always the band you know and, perhaps, love: there are a number of “Exile” tracks whose parts are not played by the usual suspects. (That’s Jimmy Miller, the producer, playing drums on “Happy” and “Shine a Light,” not Mr. Watts. That’s Mr. Taylor, or Mr. Richards, or Bill Plummer playing bass on about half the record, not Bill Wyman.) As it happens, the “Loving Cup” described above was not recorded in Nellcôte’s basement but at Olympic Studios in London in the spring of 1969. (The album version — more laid back, not as good — comes from Los Angeles, after the French sojourn.) The Nellcôte experience was important to “Exile,” there’s no question. But the work of several Stones researchers indicates that more than half the album was recorded at other places, under more normal working conditions. The new reissue both enshrines “Exile” and questions it. The first disc — a sharper version of the album itself, sounding far better than its last remastering in 1994, with deeper bass and greater detail — strengthens the idea of “Exile” as an inviolable document, dense and atmospheric and brilliantly post-produced, a thing unto itself. But the second bonus disc blows that idea apart, with new vocal tracks by Mr. Jagger over old instrumental tracks of “Exile”-related provenance, and other material that seems to come from the general era. So now you’re getting “Exile” from two perspectives: first as a finished 18-track entity, a masterpiece, if you want; then as something broader and more amorphous. If I’m reading the signs correctly, these two perspectives have some relation to how Mr. Richards and Mr. Jagger think about the album. Mr. Jagger, who has criticized the album’s production over the years and wondered aloud about the strength of its songs, is more willing to dispense with Nellcôte as the album’s central force. “You mean what is the album’s esprit?” he asked, rephrasing a question in a recent telephone conversation. The idea of Nellcôte as the album’s unifier is “three-quarters true,” he explained. “It wouldn’t be the same record without Nellcôte,” he added. “But then it wouldn’t be the same record without what we did in London. Nellcôte was more hothouse, it was more living-in-the-studio. But what would the difference have been if we recorded ‘Ventilator Blues’ at Olympic or at Nellcôte? Who knows, and who cares?” Miller, the album’s producer, died in 1994. So Mr. Jagger commissioned the producer Don Was to investigate extra studio material from the period. (“When Mick first called me about it,” Mr. Was said, “it was like he was asking me, ‘Can you do me a favor, man? Can you take the garbage out?’ ”) But then Mr. Jagger got caught up in the search himself, trying to determine what other tracks might qualify as extra matter for “Exile.” Mr. Jagger said he thought only in terms of time period, not by style, sound, location, or any other criterion. For him, “Exile” is less a specific sequence of tracks than an era of recording, starting with that “Loving Cup” at Olympic Studios. “It’s a good story to say that what was created at Nellcôte was a result of the incredibly decadent atmosphere,” Mr. Jagger said. “Well, yeah: it’s probably true that the atmosphere affected the feeling of the music, and the sound of the studio. But you’ve no idea how much or how little. And in the end, it’s just a sort of myth, really.” Can he hear the sound of the Nellcôte studios when he listens to the album? “I’ve no idea which is the Nellcôte stuff and which isn’t, to be honest.” Ah. Mr. Richards feels differently. “All of the bone and the muscle of the record was done down in that basement,” he said when asked the same question. The rest of the work he considers “fairy dust.” It’s the opposite interpretation, but if you read the literature — particularly Robert Greenfield’s book “Exile on Main St.: A Season in Hell With the Rolling Stones” (Da Capo Press) — it makes sense. Nellcôte was Mr. Richards’s house, and he was one of its mainstays that summer, with his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg and their son Marlon. The other band members came and went; Inasmuch as “Exile” has an esprit of place, Mr. Richards lived in it, and Mr. Jagger visited. “I don’t think we were conscious of making a record that was gonna be about that place and the way we felt at the time,” Mr. Richards said in a phone interview. “But the word ‘exile’ does describe pretty much the atmosphere and the conditions that we were recording in. I mean, we’d all had to leave our places in England. Not that the Stones were particularly patriotic — I know better than that — but it was really a jerk, when you’re working with a team of guys and you all have to uproot at once.” Mr. Richards contributed little to the extra tracks on the bonus disc and distrusted altering even the outtakes and unused tracks; as he said to another reporter earlier this year, “I didn’t want to interfere with the Bible.” “My job was to enforce the no-fiddling rule,” he told me. “I didn’t want to play around with it at all. It’s all analog, and of course the remixing involved a change to digital, but otherwise, if anybody came up with a bright idea, I said no.” It’s not clear that Mr. Jagger heard him. He put new vocals on four of the bonus tracks: “Plundered My Soul,” “Following the River,” “Dancing in the Light” and “Pass the Wine.” In “Plundered” — after some newly tracked guitar in the opening by Mr. Taylor — you hear a 66-year-old voice singing recent lyrics: an aging aristocrat describing a younger man’s appetites, over what appears to be the Stones sounding worn and wracked in their 20s. Mr. Was believes that nobody, not even the Stones themselves, can remember when the backing tracks for “Plundered My Soul” were recorded. The strange thing is that “Plundered My Soul” is very good: the most soulful and energetic Stones track I can think of in almost 30 years. Until recently, the Stones have been reluctant to release their unheard archives. Perhaps that’s because they’re so good at putting old scraps into new patchworks — the then-three-year-old songs retooled in 1972 for “Exile,” the then-nine-year-old songs ( “Tops” and “Waiting on a Friend”) given new vocals and new life in 1981 on “Tattoo You.” The rest of the bonus disc is very good, too, patchwork, mysteries and all. According to Mr. Was, two tracks come from Nellcôte — a petulant shuffle called “I’m Not Signifying” and an alternate version of “Soul Survivor,” sung by Mr. Richards. One other, a nasty R&B instrumental called “Title 5,” came from a tape box marked “1969,” though Mr. Was suspects it was made earlier. So do I. I don’t know if a great album must serve as an accounting of where the band members’ heads were at, or where they were geographically, or when they made it. But in the Stones’ case, I do want to hear the group sound, as much as possible. I want a minimum of detours, absences and static longeurs, with introductions and bridges and codas. The Stones wrote and arranged carefully, but this is a record that favors jamming over composing; though only one track is longer than five minutes, many quickly drag from indirection: “Happy,” “Casino Boogie,” “Stop Breaking Down,” “Shine a Light” — half the record, really. Still, because of its rolling eccentricity, “Exile” always wants to be heard in full, or at least in small groupings, including the two great segues: the hard “Rocks Off” into the harder “Rip This Joint”; the angry gnarl of “Ventilator Blues” into the menthol drift of “I Just Want to See His Face.” Throughout, I love Mr. Jagger’s yapping voice, determined to be heard, feeling its way through cultural appropriation. I think Mr. Richards’s limping rhythm in “Tumbling Dice” is one of the great energies in popular music, even if I’ve never worked up much love for the song. But back to the alternate take of “Loving Cup,” which still seems like the star of the whole enterprise. I asked Don Was what he thought. “There’s a sound that’s identified with ‘Exile’ that’s become part of the vocabulary for every rock ‘n’ roll musician subsequently,” he said. “And this is the ultimate track of the style that characterizes ‘Exile.’ It’s not sloppiness; it’s width, in terms of where everyone feels the beat. You’ve got five individuals feeling the beat in a different place. At some point, the centrifugal force of the rhythm no longer holds the band together. That ‘Loving Cup’ is about the widest area you can have without the song falling apart.” What leapt out was the phrase “the style that characterizes ‘Exile,’ ” especially in connection with a track that’s not actually on the record. For me, “Exile” works best as a suggestion, not a fact. This article has been revised to reflect the following correction: Correction: May 22, 2010 An earlier version of this article referred to a D chord in "Loving Cup" as an A chord. Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/arts/music/23stones.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 24th, 2010 at 1:50pm
ok, that was fun. What's next?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on May 24th, 2010 at 2:19pm
#1 in the UK!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1280730/Rolling-Stones-return-No-1-slot-16-year-Exile.html Rolling Stones return to the No.1 slot after 16-year Exile By Ben Todd Last updated at 9:01 AM on 24th May 2010 The band beat off dance act Faithless and their new album The Dance in the battle for the top. A music industry source said: 'It actually is incredible that the Stones are at number one again. It just shows how timeless their music really is - and just how huge an act they remain.' The original version of Exile also topped the charts on its release back in May 1972. At the time the album received a lukewarm response from critics. However, it is now accepted as one of the most influential rock albums of all time and seen as the Stones' masterpiece. The re-issue includes ten tracks that had never been released before, among them four tracks that even frontman Sir Mick Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards, both 66, had forgotten even existed. Two timer: The original version of Exile also topped the charts on its release back in May 1972 Last night, a friend of the band's said: 'They're delighted people have taken to the record once more. 'They are particularly pleased that, in their home country, young people are discovering the band's music for the first time.' The original 18-track double album was recorded at a number of different studios - much of it in the basement of Richards' mansion in the South of France mansion called Nellcote where the band notoriously staged the longest house party in history. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 24th, 2010 at 2:37pm
In the post-Napster piracy era, it doesn't take much to score a No. 1 hit. Remember Johnny Cash a couple years ago -- No. 1 with 88,000 sales?
But if someone's gotta be No. 1, I'd rather it be the Stones, of course. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 24th, 2010 at 3:04pm Charlie Watts On 'Exile On Main Street' The Rolling Stones drummer remembers... Words by Simon Harper Interview Posted by ClashMusic Wed, 19/05/2010 Charlie Watts is everything you would expect him to be. Effortlessly dapper, exuding a sophisticated and seasoned cool, he revokes any rock star affectations and, despite being the anchor of The World’s Greatest Rock ‘n’ Roll Band, is visibly uncomfortable in the spotlight, fidgeting continuously in his chair, as if being interrogated by Clash. We’re here today essentially to talk about the re-release of arguably the Stones’ finest album, 1972’s ‘Exile On Main Street’. Since the Stones parted with Virgin to sign with Universal, plans were put in place to finally revisit and remaster the albums that have remained untouched since first released. Despite its massive popularity and cult status, ‘Exile’ was always a thorn in Mick Jagger’s side - he hated its production and conceded to the derision it faced upon release for its multiplicity of styles and influences - the very thing that makes it unique. However, given the chance to clean it up, Jagger went one step further and unearthed a dozen tracks [sic] from those 1971 sessions and - after controversially adding new vocals onto some - presents them here for the first time on the reissue’s bonus disc (see this month’s album reviews for full details). But even with a product to plug, Charlie’s PR advises Clash not to dwell on Stones questions, but rather to endear him with his favourite subject: jazz music. It’s just as well, really, since - as one would expect - a Rolling Stone may not have the clearest memories of the early Seventies. “I have a terrible time remembering it,” the drummer warns. The Sixties ended with a diabolical low for The Rolling Stones - having triumphed with their career-defining albums ‘Beggars Banquet’ and ‘Let It Bleed’ in ’68 and ’69 respectively, the bubble they’d blown as Britain’s second biggest pop export was diabolically burst when original guitarist Brian Jones’ death in ’69 was followed that year by the horrific murder of a teenager at the hand of a Hell’s Angel during the Stones’ infamous free gig at Altamont. At the advent of the Seventies, having been hounded, harassed and arrested by the British establishment, the Stones were still paying the government almost ninety percent tax on their earnings - a galling figure to the former economics student Jagger. Looking for a solution, Prince Rupert Lowenstein - the band’s manager - pointed them in the direction of France and a financial loophole. The Stones were about to go into exile. Basing themselves around the South of France, the focal point for the recording of the new album was Nellcote, a sprawling villa by Nice, and also the home of Keith Richards. While not staying on his farm some miles down the road with his wife and daughter, Charlie would stay in Nellcote to work. “We recorded in the cellar,” he explains. “They had very large cellars. We used to just move from one place to another with the drums.” The sessions for ‘Exile On Main Street’ featured a long - and often confusing - cast list. There were the five Stones - Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, bassist Bill Wyman and guitarist Mick Taylor - then there were the horn section, led by Bobby Keys, and an array of friends and visiting musicians, all ostensibly being reigned in by producer Jimmy Miller (Keith was really in charge). The musician credits on the album’s sleeve, says Charlie, are vague and inaccurate. “You know why? Sometimes you’ll all go home at four in the morning, and Keith will suddenly want to do something.” Loose, casual and wildly unpredictable, the making of ‘Exile’ revolved around a gigantic consumption of drugs - the main attraction of the myriad house guests. One such passing disciple was Gram Parsons, the ex-Byrd and Flying Burrito Brother, who shared with Keith a healthy appetite for heroin, and an undying love of country music. It is this friendship that is credited with the album’s Southern sway and downhome authenticity. The prolific sessions eventually yielded the Stones’ first double album. It’s a thrilling adventure through the heritage of American music - stirring blues, country, gospel and soul into one big swampy gumbo - but its diversity was seen as unfocused upon the album’s release. “Critics don’t mean anything in the long run,” Charlie spits. “It’s not very nice reading that it was a load of crap, what you spent a year making.” Despite initial slow sales, ‘Exile On Main Street’ has become the benchmark upon which all subsequent Rolling Stones records are compared. Its decadent, louche sound flows gloriously through the eighteen tracks, making for a dirty, heady listening experience that’s never been bettered - by the Stones or anyone. And so, talk turns to Charlie’s true loves: jazz and drums. When the Stones formed, Charlie was a misfit in the ranks - while Keith, Mick, Brian and Bill were blues freaks, obsessed by Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry and Howlin’ Wolf, Charlie was fully immersed in the world of jazz, his hero Charlie Parker, and taught himself to play drums by watching the proponents of London’s jazz scene - Phil Seaman, Tony Kinsey and Allan Ganley - and the American giants. “I went to Paris to see Phil Seaman play,” Charlie recalls. “He was playing with [American jazz pianist] Bud Powell. But along with him that night was one of my great, great idols - look and style - a guy called Kenny Clarke. I met him later a few times, which was a great thrill.” The Charlie Watts drumming style - refined yet potent - has made him a rock ‘n’ roll legend, but he relishes the opportunity to play jazz. The difference in techniques, he says, is down to subtlety. “In jazz music you have to listen more. You can’t go steaming ahead during a piano solo because piano players don’t like you going all over them. The thing with rock ‘n’ roll is that you generally have to keep the same consistency going all the time. In jazz it’s much looser and subtler, but both as enjoyable.” Rejoicing in discussions of jazz, there’s a fire in Charlie’s eyes as we go on to talk about his first visit to New York’s 52nd Street and Birdland (“That was America for me”), Charlie Parker, Louis Armstrong, Baby Dodds, Duke Ellington and King Oliver. But our time is running out, and Clash has a million questions to squeeze in about The Rolling Stones. The impenetrable songwriting partnership of Jagger/Richards has claimed its fair share of victims - so to what extent does Charlie contribute to the Stones’ music? Are his drum parts his own creation, or is he advised what to play by the authors? “Oh, it’s a mixture,” he offers calmly. “Mick will say, ‘No, don’t do that - keep going’. Keith never says anything. Keith’s like playing with a jazz player - he’s not very dictatorial, but if you don’t do right - he’ll never tell you or anything - but he won’t use it. Someone else will do it better. But Mick is very controlling anyway in his nature. He likes to know his eggs are being done properly in the [kitchen]. Keith couldn’t care less about the eggs; he’ll get up when he gets up. They’re different characters. With Mick, usually he’s right - that’s the annoying thing with Mick; he’s very often right!” With the unenviable task of being the mediator between Mick and Keith, Charlie must have the patience of a saint. (This was famously tested in the mid-Eighties when a drunk Jagger called Charlie’s hotel room, asking where “my drummer” was. Charlie coolly arose, shaved, got fully dressed in his sharp suit, went down to Mick’s room, and punched him in the face, with the immortal pay-off line: “Don’t ever call me your drummer again. You’re my fucking singer!”) Rumours have always abounded that Charlie would leave the Stones - his 2004 battle with throat cancer was considered reason enough - but he denies even considering such a move. “I’ve never said that,” he states. “I’ve never said I’ve left The Rolling Stones. They might not want me, but I’ve never left.” Thankfully so - Keith Richards has repeatedly suggested that without Charlie Watts there would be no Rolling Stones. “I think he’s being very kind,” Charlie chuckles. “I think The Rolling Stones would be Mick and Keith, to be honest.” Faultlessly modest and simply charming, Charlie Watts is the ultimate gallant gent. Through a combination of Clash’s extensive questions and Charlie’s measured and considered answers, we reach the end of our interview all too soon. We don’t get the chance to talk more about Brian Jones, or to dig for dirt on Mick Jagger, nor does the opportunity arise to ask about Charlie’s own brief dalliance with heroin in the Eighties - though it’s doubtful that he would even be pressed on any of those topics. Departing with the insinuation that another Stones tour is forthcoming, you can only wonder how the sixty-eight-year-old does it - squeezing gigs and albums with his jazz band, not to mention his boogie-woogie group, in between mammoth treks around the globe with his day job. So, as our interview ends, it’s with great hope that there will be many more possibilities in the long and impressive career of Charlie Watts. It’s only rock and roll, but he clearly likes it. clashmusic.com :areyoufuckingserious |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by nankerphelge on May 24th, 2010 at 3:18pm
Nice read.
oh and, no Charlie = no Stones. Sorry Charlie! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by straycatuk on May 24th, 2010 at 3:35pm
It's a great time to be a fan.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 24th, 2010 at 4:39pm
You knew this had to come, particularly from the British press:
It's a load of shit. The best part is when he chastises the bbc for commemorating, celebrating the reissue of Exile rather than mark the anniversary of Joy Division's Ian Curtis' suicide. I respect the musical legacy of Jy Division and love New Order, but there is no comparison. Some people will never get it, and other, i suspect, love playing devil's advocate. From Times Online May 25, 2010 Stoned twaddle, not a forgotten Stones masterpiece Making music was a distraction from the business of partyingMichael Pilgrim Recommend? It is, the hype insists, a cult album, legendary and shrouded in mystery. Nearly 40 years later, the Rolling Stones’ Exile on Main Street is back at No 1 in a remastered, repackaged format with outtakes refashioned as new material. Newsprint and airtime have hymned this great work, culminating in the BBC’s The Stones in Exile documentary on Sunday (you can get that on DVD immediately at all good music shops). There’s an exhibition of photos of them recording in southern France too. But is this 1972 album the forgotten masterpiece its advocates tell us? Emphatically not. If anything it marked the end of the Stones’ remarkable period of creativity that started with Aftermath and peaked in the magnificently dark Let It Bleed. At best, it is a footnote in the band’s history. Tumbling Dice is the only knockout track, a tired, swampy drawl that at least has some style. Rocks Off is unintentionally silly twaddle, a portent of the hackneyed stadium outfit that the Stones would become. Otherwise, we are in the same territory as the third Oasis album, Be Here Now, where making music became an annoying distraction from the more serious business of partying . Keith Richards, in particular, was more interested in keeping company with Sister Morphine than writing songs. The “legacy” material is by far the worst: ten outtakes and unfinished backing tracks dusted down to suffer the indignity of new 21st-century Mick Jagger vocals. It is as if the old fellow is doing his own karaoke, digitally perfect above the muddy analog tapes. The BBC, of course, has form for overly enthusiastic participation in music marketing. It was rightly castigated for covering the release of U2’s last album in a manner more suited to the promotional arm of their record company than a public service broadcaster. In the same week that the retail balloon for Exile was inflated to full size, a far more poignant musical anniversary passed. It was 30 years since Ian Curtis of Joy Division killed himself. He left behind two near- perfect albums and a collection of singles that continue to influence. But the BBC gave over little time to remembering Curtis, as it also gave little serious space to the 50th anniversary last year of Tamla Motown, the most influential label in pop history. No one blames Jagger for trying to make money. He still has school fees to pay. That this particular bauble, of all those in such a jewel-encrusted back catalogue, should be greeted so enthusiastically speaks more of rock’s forgetfulness about its past. Those who do not learn from musical history are condemned to listening to it repeatedly (remastered with bonus tracks). Michael Pilgrim was editor of Record Mirror between 1984 and 1986 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 24th, 2010 at 4:47pm
anyone want to guess the street dates for Some Girls and Stick Fingers dlx issues?
how about a b-sides mixes release... am I really wishing in the wind.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 24th, 2010 at 4:56pm Pdog wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 4:47pm:
April 2011 for the 40th anniversary, perhaps? The advantage of a Sticky Fingers deluxe is that as theyve been ploughing the vaults to find recordings from 1969-70 for Exile, theyve probably already located a sizeable chunk of the potential bonus material. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 24th, 2010 at 5:19pm
The quesiton is, does Mick want to devote that much time and effort to another massive reissue that soon?
The man historically hates nostalgia, which is why the whole Exile redux pleasantly surprised me. Jagger seemed to really delve into this project, going back, listening, reliving that time etc...... That's a year's worth of nostalgia and I just don't see Jagger doing that again anytime soon. Sure they tease us, Don Was and Keith have said it was a possibility, but Jagger would most likely be doing all the work on the Stones end, so I'd say it will be a while until another major reissue. And then they'd have to debate which one would be next: Let it Bleed, BB, SG.... I think we need to appreciate this moment in Stones history while it lasts, because they don't look back often... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 24th, 2010 at 5:30pm texile wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 4:39pm:
It's just an opinion. 'Exile' wasn't universally lauded in 1972, either. That last bit 'o' snark - "Those who do not learn from musical history are condemned to listening to it repeatedly (remastered with bonus tracks)" - is pretty funny. No hanging matter. I like it just fine. And that's the only opinion that matters to me... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on May 24th, 2010 at 6:03pm
The smart thing to do would be to have something ready to catch the momentum of this reissue and tour fairly soon but they only seem to get bothered every few years However, a reissue too soon and I mean in the next year or so seems counter productive because ordinary music fans probably want some time in between before buying another big Stones record. Maybe it could come after a tour and perhaps throw in a live show with the whole of Sticky Fingers played or something like that as opposed to a live record with the same songs we've already heard a thousand times.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 24th, 2010 at 6:25pm texile wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 5:19pm:
The thing is that Mick's facility for looking forward and being 'current' are seriously limited. His solo career is pretty redundant. The Stones are an oldies act, with little motivation to create new music, a short term future as a touring entity and an act which in recent years has relied on recycling their best known hits for musical output. The long term potential for all of the above are pretty limited. At least they now have another option which based on this first attempt, seems to be more lucrative a venture than they'd imagined it would be. And one which, just as importantly, seems to have a record label keen to throw their weight behind it |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 24th, 2010 at 6:49pm RONNIE WOOD IS EXILED LEFT OUT: Ronnie Wood Tuesday May 25,2010 SPARE a thought for poor Ronnie Wood. While we assumed he would be celebrating the Rolling Stones topping the charts this weekend for the first time in 16 years with Exile On Main Street, it seems the guitarist is in fact feeling rather left out. The 62-year-old didn’t join the Stones until 1975, three years after the release of the album, which many fans consider their greatest work. So while original members Sir Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Charlie Watts have been busy promoting the re-mastered version Ronnie has been left high and dry. “Ronnie’s been aching to do stuff with the Stones again but he’s inevitably not been required for this particular project,” says a pal. “It’s not easy for him.” Even Mick Taylor, whom Ronnie replaced, was briefly brought back into the studio to help revamp Exile On Main Street on which he originally played. The Daily Express No mention from the "pal" about which version of the re-issue Ronnie bought... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 24th, 2010 at 7:23pm
Ronnie?
Who's he? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Riffhard on May 24th, 2010 at 8:08pm Mel Belli wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 7:23pm:
Doh! You just know that Ronnie is questioning his position in the band these days. While I'm sure his slot his safe, for the moment, this little hiatus has to be killing him. Especially given the fact that it has topped the charts! Mick, Keith, and Charlie were probably only too happy to take a break from Woody because of all of his shit press of late. Riffy |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 24th, 2010 at 8:16pm
[quote author=Gazza quote]
The thing is that Mick's facility for looking forward and being 'current' are seriously limited. His solo career is pretty redundant. The Stones are an oldies act, with little motivation to create new music, a short term future as a touring entity and an act which in recent years has relied on recycling their best known hits for musical output. The long term potential for all of the above are pretty limited. At least they now have another option which based on this first attempt, seems to be more lucrative a venture than they'd imagined it would be. And one which, just as importantly, seems to have a record label keen to throw their weight behind it[/quote] Absolutely true, and we've known that for years, but does Jagger? He seemed very pleased with the attention in Cannes and the interest from all media outlets.... for the first time in years, a Stones release is being met with real enthusiasm and no old fart jokes and headlines. I kept wondering if the success of this reissue has made him realize that. Jagger wants the Stones to be a money-making machine and if this proves to be the way to do that, I believe he'll be willing to commit to more reissues. But he also wants the Stones to be a current musicial commodity, whatever that means in 2010.....and like all great artists, his ego gets in the way of practical truths, mainly, that Exile seems more relevant and cool than anything the Stones have done in years. Does he accept that Exile was his peak? He seems more willing to admit that to a point in some of these interviews....and Keith has always been able to accept that. But can Jagger deal with the fact that the iconic Stones of the past is what will cement their place in history, not their "oldies act". |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 24th, 2010 at 9:03pm
Stones reissue gamble pays off
Monday May 24, 2010 By Ben Cardew Universal's gambit of treating the reissue of The Rolling Stones’ Exile On Main Street as a frontline release rather than a catalogue album has paid off spectacularly, with the album entering the chart at number one. The album, which adds additional material to the original 1972 release, last week sold 31,287 units to become the most successful repackage of Stones material since Universal secured the rights in 2008 from EMI of the band’s post-1971 catalogue. The result means Exile In Main Street is the first studio album to return to number one as a reissue in the UK. Mick Jagger tells Music Week, “Working with Universal on the Shine A Light project proved they understood how we work and with this number one in the UK, it is great news for everyone involved. Looking back to ’72 it was worth the effort and, yes, Exile… is a great record that has stood the test of time.” The reissue programme started with Sticky Fingers, Goats Head Soup, It’s Only Rock‘n’Roll and Black and Blue in May 2009, followed by Some Girls, Emotional Rescue, Tattoo You, Undercover, Dirty Work, Steel Wheels, Voodoo Lounge, Bridges To Babylon and A Bigger Bang later that year. All of the reissues are through Polydor via UMG companies around the world. The re-release of Exile…, however, was separate to the main reissue programme. Polydor issued the album last Monday, with 10 previously unreleased tracks from the period, some of which have sub-sequently been re-worked. The album is generally priced at £5.99 for the standard CD version and £11.99 for the deluxe edition. “We treated it as if it was a new album,” says Polydor UK general manager Orla Lee. “It is about engaging with a new audience and having new material from the time.” Treating the album as a frontline release meant that Polydor issued two of these new songs – Plundered My Soul and Following The River – as “focus tracks” to radio and TV, creating new videos for both. Plundered My Soul was first out of the blocks and made the Radio 2 C-list, as well as picking up considerable airplay on Kerrang! Radio. Following The River has just gone to radio. “Rather than it being a reissue, there are new songs. They’ve been doing lots of interviews, radio, TV and lots of [media] takeovers,” says Lee, who explains that the band were intimately involved with the project. Bernard Doherty, CEO of LD Communications and now in his third decade as the Stones’ PR, explains the press campaign was laid out six months ago “with meticulous planning but the band wanted it to have a rock‘n’roll feel in that all the interviews and media coverage didn’t all drop at once, it needed to gather momentum”. “Our first cover was three months ago with Uncut, then we had playbacks of the bonus tracks to media, arranged a number of screenings of the Stones in Exile documentary,” he adds. This frontline approach also extends to the advertising campaign behind the reissue. “We haven’t just approached it as one ad in Record Collector – although we have done that. It has been a far-reaching campaign with the full frontline approach,” adds Lee. She sees the album campaign as a sustained one with further activity to follow, including repromotion around Father’s Day in June. “It is a global campaign,” Lee adds. “The midweeks around the world are very strong.” “Considering Exile… is now in its fourth decade and has been reissued twice before, this is a remarkable achievement,” adds Doherty. Keith Richards says, “Maybe because it was a double album, we knew there was going to be a sort of reaction to it in a way, just because it was very different. It shows our determination, the Stones’ point of view, that we insisted it was a double record, that you couldn’t split it up in other words. That was what we did. We’re the exiles and this is what we’re doing. It was made with that kind of attitude. “Every tour when we plan the setlist, Exile is one of those records you can look at and say ‘We’ve gotta do Tumbling Dice and Happy and there’s always Sweet Virginia and Shine a Light.’ “When you’re in a little bit of doubt about what to play, you say, ‘Let’s listen to Exile and we’ll find something.’” Following the re-release, there are understood to be more Rolling Stones reissues in the pipeline, also including previously un-released tracks. Source: Music Week |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 24th, 2010 at 9:05pm
Exile On Main Street – Sales breakdown
Monday May 24, 2010 By Christopher Barrett Exile On Main Street, is this week, the first album to return to number one as a reissue in the UK. Here we break down the Rolling Stones album’s 31,287 first week sales by format. CD = 28,519 Digital bundles = 2,279 Vinyl = 490 Source: Music Week |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by SteelVoodoo on May 24th, 2010 at 9:07pm
I'm thinking that Jagger is going to try and take all the positive buzz about a #1 album (he has to be loving this) and try and spin it off into a brand new record. More than anything Jagger wants the Stones to be relevant...Jagger's head would explode if they score a #1 of all new music in 2011.
I'm pretty confident that the next Stones project is another all new studio album and a major tour. Jagger has said several times in the press over the last week or so that he has been writing and is looking forward to getting together w/Keith to record. I think the re-issues will continue in some for or another after the new album. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on May 25th, 2010 at 6:26am
I'm really glad Exile is #1, I mean what other rock & Roll is out there today, it's no wonder it is, what other competition do the Stones have, Lady Ga Ga? that's not exactly Rock & Roll.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 25th, 2010 at 8:44am
road trip today- bonus disc blasting!!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 25th, 2010 at 9:40am Heart Of Stone wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 6:26am:
Lady Ga Ga is what would happen if David Bowie and Carol Burnett had sex. :smilemick |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 25th, 2010 at 9:40am
"No mention from the "pal" about which version of the re-issue Ronnie bought..."
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 25th, 2010 at 6:56pm
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
No. 2 in the USA. The number 1 album sold more than numbers 2 & 3 combined. 75,000 copies. Thought it would have sold more than that with all the TV promotion over there (31,000 in the UK which has 20% of the US population). Still a lot more than I personally would have predicted a few weeks ago, though. The bonus CD seems to have charted on its own at number 28, though , with 14,000 copies sold. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 25th, 2010 at 7:04pm
Those are just pitiful numbers overall -- for the industry, I mean.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 25th, 2010 at 7:12pm True, but retail sales have been in a death spiral for years. And they'll likely only get worse. Got my copy of 'Exile' at Best Buy. Their music department was half the size of what it was a coupla months ago... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on May 25th, 2010 at 7:19pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 7:12pm:
Yup ... Barnes & Noble has given over what seems like 90% of its media space to DVDs. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 25th, 2010 at 8:19pm
Does the 75K include digital?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 25th, 2010 at 8:42pm That's the SoundScan figure. Don't think that iTunes reports their numbers. 'Exile' is currently #8. www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/top10albums.html |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 25th, 2010 at 8:47pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 8:42pm:
1 - Soundscan numbers are released tomorrow, 'Hits' numbers are not official. 2 - Soundscan includes EVERYTHING sold, physical and digital and, of course, Itunes sales are included. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on May 25th, 2010 at 9:29pm
i knew exile could do it...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 25th, 2010 at 10:36pm Pdog wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 9:29pm:
It's the bees knees indeed Pdog. :keithpunky :booze |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on May 26th, 2010 at 2:24am sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 25th, 2010 at 9:40am:
;D ;D That's a great line! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 26th, 2010 at 10:34am
From Billboard.biz:
• The "Glee—The Music Volume 3: Showstoppers" soundtrack arrives at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 as expected, starting with 136,000 sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan. • The cast of "Glee" blocks the Rolling Stones from re-entering the chart at No. 1 with the reissue of its classic album "Exile on Main St." The set returns to the tally at No. 2 with 76,000 sold after Universal Republic/UMe relaunched the album last week. • "Exile"—which spent four weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 upon its release in 1972—was reissued last week in an array of configurations, including the standard remastered album, a deluxe version with 10 additional tracks and a super deluxe boxed set. A separate Target-exclusive set, "Exile on Main St.—Rarities Edition," which contains only the 10 bonus cuts, charts separately and debuts at No. 27 with 15,000 copies. 01. Glee—The Music Volume 3: Showstoppers (136,000) 02. The Rolling Stones, Exile On Main St. (76,000) 03. The Black Keys, Brothers (73,000) 27. The Rolling Stones, Exile on Main St. — Rarities Edition (15,000) Combined Sales for Exile and Exile Rarities: 91,000 copies |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 26th, 2010 at 12:20pm SteelVoodoo wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 9:07pm:
Agreed, Mick is itching for some new stuff and the renewed artistic/cool interest versus the pure business/oldies/nostalgia of late is likely going to give him more ambition for the new project. A bit like the way he approached B2B. They really need outside help, particularly at the guitar level. Keith is dried up/handicapped by his fingers and Ronnie hasn't come up with anything of interest since his soloing on UC. Switch Ronnie to bass for the album (no Mick on bass please !) and get Waddy Wachtel and Mick Taylor to take turns on the guitar in the studio. PMS isn't really a better song than "Don't Stop" but MT's guitar takes it to a completely different level and Mick knows that. Benmont Tench on keys would help too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on May 26th, 2010 at 2:33pm
[quote author=gotdablouse
Agreed, Mick is itching for some new stuff and the renewed artistic/cool interest versus the pure business/oldies/nostalgia of late is likely going to give him more ambition for the new project. A bit like the way he approached B2B. They really need outside help, particularly at the guitar level. Keith is dried up/handicapped by his fingers and Ronnie hasn't come up with anything of interest since his soloing on UC. Switch Ronnie to bass for the album (no Mick on bass please !) and get Waddy Wachtel and Mick Taylor to take turns on the guitar in the studio. PMS isn't really a better song than "Don't Stop" but MT's guitar takes it to a completely different level and Mick knows that. Benmont Tench on keys would help too.[/quote] Bite your tongue about "Don't Stop" got...Jagger sounds listless and the lyrics trite. PMS has some impassioned vocals from Jagger with great, meaningful lyrics. As for the Stones riding the wave of interest with a new album, I'm doubtful. The Stones have been churning out "new stuff" for the last 20 years with varying results and little interest from the buying public and younger music fans. If the Exile reissue proved anything, its that people are curious, fascinated by the Stones of lore, not now. Sad to say, but that's just the way it is and its not just the Stones, but Dylan etc.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on May 27th, 2010 at 2:28am
agreed tex
in my opinion the chance of there being any new material (i.e. entirely written and recorded after ABB) is no better than 50/50 and the real odds are pobably much longer than that there maybe some further refurbished old tracks al la PMS but even then i wouldn't be holding my breath waiting |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on May 27th, 2010 at 12:48pm
What does everyone think of the remastering? Has anyone done an A/B test with the 1994 Virgin remaster?
Who has heard it on vinyl? I have and think it's top notch. Some of the folks at www.stevehoffman.tv think it doesn't sound that good, but I disagree. It's one of the reasons I'm telling people to get a record player. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by acagnew on May 27th, 2010 at 1:08pm
Steel Wheels:
The folks over at stevehoffman.tv are sometimes a bit overly-critical, which is not to say that's not a good place to hang out sometimes.... Personally, I really like this remaster -- perhaps even a tad more than the '94. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 27th, 2010 at 2:05pm
that bonus disc sounds so good tooling around the city on a hot day with the windows down. Chicks wink at you at stop lights.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on May 27th, 2010 at 8:40pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by fuman on May 27th, 2010 at 9:21pm Soldatti wrote on May 27th, 2010 at 8:40pm:
It's the most desirable object in the universe. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 27th, 2010 at 9:35pm ...and the second most in the US. ::) It's #6 on the digital download chart - www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200#/charts/digital-albums?tag=relcharts Wonder how many DL's that is. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on May 28th, 2010 at 6:29am
This is an awesome result. Never in my wildest dreams did i think this would be so big. No one can deny they pulled out all the stops to flog this, and it's worked.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Honky Tonk Man on May 28th, 2010 at 1:40pm
OK, so who here hasn't spun the newly-remastered Exile CD, yet? Me!
The vinyl has been on the turntable plenty and the outtakes disc has been getting regular spins, but I just cannot seem to get round the the listening to the regular CD. Am I alone, here? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 28th, 2010 at 2:36pm Ladies and Gentlemen: The Super Deluxe Rolling Stones By Krist Novoselic, Friday, May. 28 2010 @ 9:22AM I just got the Rolling Stones Exile on Main St. [Super Deluxe Edition] It was like $150 for the two vinyl records, two CD's, DVD, coffee table book and even an envelope of postcards. It's super-geek collector stuff and if you can afford it, I say it's worth it. The release commemorates the summer of 40 years ago when the band inhabited a French villa - literally exiles from their native England, due to the tax situation they were in. They practically lived in the château-turned-studio where they recorded much of Exile. And the various aspects of the release give a good glimpse into the time along with the subsequent touring of the record. The vinyl sounds great - good lathe work! It's such a novelty to put on a "new" copy of Exile on the turntable. The new copy looks and feels like my trusty old copy - except it's a tri-fold and holds the digital disks too. (What I'm trying to say is that putting on this disc is a familiar experience.) The first CD is the digital version and it sounds fine. But it's the second CD of the outtakes that has been getting the most play at my house. There are ten tunes, which kind of make it like an unheard Stones record - with Nicky Hopkins on keys, horn players and all. The songs are like those B-sides that grow on you. The guitar riff on "So Divine (Aladdin Story)" sounds like "Paint It Black" - but the song is way different. (Hard to explain - just listen!) There are alternate takes of Soul Survivor and Loving Cup. I love these kinds of things - demos and the like. The DVD is a kick too. There's a short documentary on the making of the record that's exclusively home movie footage and photographs. There are contemporary voices recollecting the time but no new "talking head" footage. I love the live performance footage as the Stones just rock - and by watching it you can tell they know this! I was expecting the full Cocksucker Blues, the notorious underground Stones tour documentary. It's a shorter version of the bootleg video I recall watching about 20 years ago. Way, way less sex and drugs in this cut. The total duration of the DVD disc is 30 minutes. Then there's the book - what you'd expect for the kind of dough you lay down. It's hardback with previously unseen photos printed on nice paper. Again, if you can afford it, buy this Super Deluxe Edition. If you can't, or you're even unfamiliar with this work, find a used vinyl copy of Exile On Main Street and still have a blast! Seattle Weekly |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 28th, 2010 at 8:09pm
PMS will be a gate way song for today's youth that will lead to serious Stones.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by scope on May 29th, 2010 at 12:30pm Honky Tonk Man wrote on May 28th, 2010 at 1:40pm:
I haven't spun a damn thing... no outtakes, no remaster, no book with new pics.. na da, zilch.. Zero Still waiting for my Fan Pack edition to arrive. According to Fed Ex it is on the truck and out for delivery today!!!! I am not leaving the house today and anxiously wait to fill the house with the sound of some sweet music. UPDATE: It's here!!!!! The outtakes disc is fantastic - now I know what all the hoopla was about..Man is this great. HTM, if you want a quick check on the remastering, suggest you crank up Sweet Virgina. Sounds sweet indeed. See ya later, going back for another spin. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by ijwthstd on May 29th, 2010 at 1:18pm
I picked up just the bonus disc at Target. Best Stones album since Exile!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on May 29th, 2010 at 7:54pm
A quite entertaining and funny podcast from The Word' magazine's editors, discussing 'Exile'
http://feeds2.feedburner.com/WordPodcast Check it out. It sounds like two drunks from Rocks Off in a bar. Fucking hilarious. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 30th, 2010 at 10:54am The Rolling Stones Turn Retrospective MTV's Bill Flanagan on the Group's Re-Mastered Release of Their Classic 1972 Album, "Exile on Main Street" May 30, 2010 The Rolling Stones' 1972 album, "Exile on Main Street." (CBS) (CBS) The classic 1972 Rolling Stones album "Exile On Main Street" has just been re-released for the summer. As you might expect, MTV's Bill Flanagan is a Stones fan of long standing ... The Rolling Stones have been around for 48 years. For the first half of that time, they concentrated on making records, many of which were fantastic. For the second 24 years, the Stones focused their energies on extravagant and gigantic concert tours. Now, as the 50-year mark approaches, the Stones are finally entering their retrospective phase. This can be very lucrative: The Beatles have been repackaging their legacy for forty years, and a lot of us still get excited every time they open the vaults. The Stones have never done it - they never looked back. So it's big news for rock fans that the Stones have lately re-mastered, re-released, and added bonus material to one of their greatest albums, "Exile on Main Street." Mick Jagger, the least sentimental of rock stars, has at last dipped his toe into the river of retrospection. Those of us who swim in that stream couldn't be happier. In the spring of 1972, the Beatles had broken up, Dylan was in seclusion and Hendrix was dead. The Stones had claimed the mantle of Greatest Rock & Roll Band in the World with three homeruns in a row: "Beggar's Banquet," "Let It Bleed," and "Sticky Fingers." "Exile on Main Street" was the topper. Geometry and Chemistry homework went out the window as we sprawled with our heads between the speakers trying to figure out what Jagger was saying. At first, it sounded cacophonous: Jagger's voice was mixed so far down that it took about ten listens to hear him above the avalanche of guitars, piano, horns and drums. That was the beauty of "Exile": You had to play it loud just to make out what was going on. It sounded like it had been recorded in a stinky, sweaty basement - which, it turned out, it had. The words that finally emerged were a tour of the underside of the mythical American south - juke joints, gunmen, smugglers, diamonds, disease and loose women, married to riffs lifted from gospel songs and Robert Johnson records. It was the first summer of Watergate and the last summer of Vietnam, so there were also lyrics about black radicals, revolutionaries on trial, and million dollar protest movies. "Exile" captures all the anxiety, tension and sheer psychic overload of a moment when the old culture seemed to be coming apart and no one had any idea what might replace it. Those of us who were there never got over it. Those who missed it can now hear what all the fuss was about. I hope this is the start of the third era of the Rolling Stones - bringing up the diamonds from the mine. CBS News "I hope this is the start of the third era of the Rolling Stones - bringing up the diamonds from the mine." What he said. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on May 30th, 2010 at 11:46am
Yes, bring up the diamonds from the mine.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on May 30th, 2010 at 11:55am
I'll happily share a stream with Bill Flanagan. He captured the momentous Exile Reissue correctly and concisely.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 30th, 2010 at 2:31pm
My Japanese super-delux edition arrived last Friday, I went to the PO yesterday and finally today I had time to open it
Slightly dissapointed the difference is as follows:
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 30th, 2010 at 2:55pm
I was just wondering whether the Japanese SD were on their way...how many pages do you have in the book? Wasn't it supposed to be 94 vs 62 or something like that? Maybe they counted the booklet with the lyrics ?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 30th, 2010 at 4:22pm |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on May 30th, 2010 at 5:10pm
PMS is my new favorite song
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 30th, 2010 at 5:29pm Jim Marshall 'Stones In Exile' will be screened at next month's Silverdocs Festival in DC. www.silverdocs.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on May 31st, 2010 at 7:37am gotdablouse wrote on May 30th, 2010 at 2:55pm:
Yes it's a 92 page book if you count the third part pages in between whole pages, well I saw some extra pages compared with this version (American) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h83LRtHb7gM |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on May 31st, 2010 at 8:08am
ah, they counted the transparent 1/3 pages, cheeky ! Book doesn't seem very interesting with its huge text, even worse than the book written by Prince Rupert's daughter that I got when it came out.
So the Japanese version does have 30 more pages, the booklet with they lyrics in ENG/JAP, for the new tracks too and the extra bonus track ? Not sure if it's worth the €60 difference in price, (€161 vs €100)...well I'll hopefully never need the €60 to buy food so I might still go for it ! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 31st, 2010 at 8:39am French TV spot for 'Exile' - www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6axGmewKe4 Only things I understood were "Rolling Stones" and "Exile On Main Street". Hopefully one of our French speaking friends can provide a translation... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on May 31st, 2010 at 7:11pm Six reasons to buy Exile On Main Street twice May 31, 2010 by John McKie The sun is shining, festival season’s around the corner, Bob Dylan’s just had his birthday and there’s just been a brilliant album at No 1. Not a brilliant current album, but you can’t have everything. Exile on Main Street, first released in May 1972, might be that rare thing – an album worth buying twice. The Stones’ greatest album (sorry, Let It Bleed, Goat’s Head Soup and Sticky Fingers fans, but disagree below – that’s why they invented message boards) was created out of chaos as the band wriggled out of a contract with ex-manager Allen Klein, and fled a huge tax bill for the south of France. As Mick Jagger admitted on Stephen Kijak’s excellent documentary Stones In Exile, non-dom rock stars are “not very cool.” Just ask Phil Collins. In fairness to Jagger and Richards, they stopped being cool only long after they returned to become tax-abiding citizens. Here are six reasons why every music fan should rejoice that this record has knocked Michael Buble, Florence and The Machine and the cast of Glee off their perches:- 1 Songs, song, songs You know those records with the Stones’ greatest hits and big lips on the front – Satisfaction, Start Me Up, Ruby Tuesday, It’s Only Rock’n’Roll (But I Like It), Sympathy for the Devil – the ones you’ve probably heard ad infinitum. if you want all that, look elsewhere. Exile has many of the real gems, which haven’t been played into submission. Tumbling Dice, which Jagger has revealed was about his American housekeeper’s gambling, Loving Cup, which The Stones covered with Jack White on Martin Scorsese’s Shine A Light and Shine A Light itself. You’ve also got Sweet Virginia, Soul Survivor, All Down the Line and 12 other corkers. That’s if you buy the original version. The 2010 reissue has ten extra tracks. 2 The time What a golden period for music the early ‘70s were. For all that cultural historians will conveniently bookmark the ‘60s as being where it was at (Paul McCartney leaving The Beatles in 1970 provides a helpful full stop for that argument), George Harrison’s All Things Must Pass surfaced in 1970, in ’72 there was Exile, Stevie Wonder’s Music of My Mind and Talking Book were both released that year – Stevie fitted around a tour with the Stones themselves. In ’71 you had Joni Mitchell’s Blue, the same year as Graham Nash’s debut solo album, Songs for Beginners, Al Green’s work for Hi Records was just taking off, Neil Young was coming on to a game…. 3 Supporting players If modern day football is about the squad and not just the first team, this is the ultimate rock’n’roll example of squad rotation in action. Producer Jimmy Miller gets behind the maracas and drums, Mick Taylor proves the ultimate foil for Keef in a way that Ronnie never could replicate on record, and listen to Bobby Keys’ flourishes on sax on All Down the Line and Happy. On keyboards, the late, great Billy Preston and Pittenweem’s Ian Stewart provide more than adequate back-up. Bassist Bill Wyman sat out several tracks. He wasn’t greatly missed. 4 It’s got the Keith one During every Stones tour, there is a moment where there is a mass exodus to the bar. It’s when Mick drawls “Keith’s going to do a couple of numbers now” and slinks offstage for a loo break. (Well, he is getting to that age.) Those buying a beer don’t know what they’re missing. Richards nearly always performs Happy – the best “Keith one” . As a song, it gives a tiny inkling as to why his solo records would end up being better than Mick’s. 5 The sprawl The members of the band were scattered all over the South of France, although they eventually convened chez Keith at Villefranche-sur-Mer. Robert Frank’s artwork informs the tone of this record – it’s all over the place, musically, visually, lyrically. As Jagger says on the documentary, that’s its strength as well as a potential weakness. The only place it’s really rooted geographically is in American music. Richards and Charlie Watts happily admit to being “American black music freaks” – hints of Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, Little Richard can be heard on this, but so can gospel, New Orleans jazz and 12-bar blues. So much for concept albums. 6 The inspiration Not the music that inspired the Stones – that’s listed above. Jack White, The Black Eyes Peas’ will.i.am, Caleb Followhill of the Kings of Leon all paid tribute on Kijak’s documentary. No rock record in the past 25 years – save for possibly Prince’s Sign O The Times, flashes of Damon Albarn’s work with Blur/Gorillaz or a couple of Radiohead albums – has shown this level of sonic ambition. If Kasabian or Muse did an album this good, staff at NME would spontaneously combust. It would be nice if a current band saw this record topping the charts and it gave them potential inspiration. If they wanted to emulate its scope, its sense of play and its evolving vitality. The challenge for them is right there. Perhaps they just need to be landed with a frightening tax bill… Caledonian Mercury |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by buddhabone on May 31st, 2010 at 9:49pm
I'm dying for a turntable.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 1st, 2010 at 5:46pm
I the Exile reissue high over? It's been wonderful and i hate to see it end.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mel Belli on Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:40pm
I've never seen Goat's Head Soup referred to as a greatest-album contender. Interesting.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 1st, 2010 at 9:39pm texile wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 5:46pm:
sadly yes, it finally was replaced in the cd player |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:48pm
Me too, Jagger's BBC Jukebox thing already has me revisiting Al Green, Marvin and Aretha.
Damn......it was a great moment in a Stones fan's life. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 10:53am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Soldatti on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:11am
UK Sales to date: 55,000
US Sales to date: 104,000 (+20k-22k of the Target's Rarities set) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 3:00pm You can get yourself a turntable for a reasonable price: http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=3003611 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by MRD8 on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 7:14pm http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=306806 Exile on Jimmy Info hash 68eb30a315957236f35d492a0e1ee2076e19d546 Description This is my first torrent so be nice to me ok? The Jimmy Fallon Show dedicated the week of May 10th thru May 14th to the re-release of the Rolling Stones "Exile on Main Street" I recorded all the episodes and edited them down to the musical performances, interviews and skits that had the boys in them. This does not include the official "Stones in Exile" portion of the show. NTSC DVD NBC Studios NYC May 10-14 2010 45 Minutes Chapters at each song, interview or skit 1. Rip This Joint - Green Day 2. Shine A Light - Taj Mahal 3. Tumbling Dice - Keith Urban 4. All Down The Line - Sheryl Crow 5. Lovin Cup - Phish 6. Pros and Cons Skit 7. Keith Richards Interview 8. Jimmy and Jagger Skit 9. Keith Takes A Bow 10 Jagger Skit 11 Sheryl Crow Interview Never For Sale - Free Trade Only Panasonic SDRH40P>NERO 7>DVD>DVD Decrypter Video: MPEG2 Video 704x480 (16:9) 29.97fps 5586Kbps Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 256Kbps |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 7:15pm http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/bestofthefests__5/bestofthefests-155904462-1274146767_thumb.jpg?ymPP4JDDNv.iN4EZ http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/bestofthefests__5/bestofthefests-582293833-1274146766_thumb.jpg?ymPP4JDDsWXHZgYk Mick and Keith Yahoo! interview Keith says it was great to revisit the album, "although enough retro for me right now." Sound like he's ready to make some new music... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 9:23am
PMS keeps sounding better. Oddly though, I haven't heard it on the radio.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 10:11am |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 10:14am left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 10:11am:
humiliationism |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 11:06am left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 7:15pm:
Thanks for posting the vid. So, Charlie nor Keith noticed the cameras, interesting. Yep, Keith sounds like he's got the itch. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:54pm
Has anyone listened to the Best Buy Exile w/ bonus interview cd? Is it worth buying?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by AngieBlue on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 1:08pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:54pm:
That is the edition of Exile I bought. I've enjoyed it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 1:12pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:54pm:
I have. Most, if not all, of the interview clips are culled from 'Stones In Exile'. About 15 minutes worth of comments from Mick, Keith, Charlie, Bill and MT. If you haven't bought 'Exile' yet, go for it. The interview disc is free, and comes in a comes in a cool 'Exile' sleeve. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 1:28pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 1:12pm:
thanks Lefty that's what I wanted to know, so far I've only bought the Target bonus cd w/t-shirt, and I want the remastered Exile disc, but wasn't sure if I should spring for the full Best Buy set w/ interview cd or just get the single disc Hmmm, I'm going to smoke a joint and think about this.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Nellcote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 1:49pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 1:12pm:
My only complaint is this is an excerpt from the 60 min interview on the BBC. Would it have killed them to include the whole thing? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 2:57pm
OK, I've thought it over
I'm buying the full set with interview cd :perverted |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 4th, 2010 at 10:57am Debauchery, darkness and Dice STEPHANIE BUNBURY June 04, 2010 'I don't regret anything,'' Mick Jagger says, radiating the sort of vitality at 66 that suggests a lifetime of early-to-bed rectitude: clearly, there is no justice in this world. His Mickness is facing the press in Cannes to discuss Stones in Exile, the new documentary account of the making of Exile on Main Street, the 1972 album many regard as the Stones's best. Most of it was recorded in a villa not far from where we sit. ''It was a wonderful time,'' Jagger continues breezily. ''You can paint it in a very dark manner and, you know, it was quite decadent. But decadence is enjoyable. And yes, it was dark but we were all in the south of France, there was sun, even though we had no money we somehow had beautiful houses with swimming pools, you know - fantastic! It got a bit crazy towards the end but, you know, we just closed shop and left.'' Stones in Exile has been made ''to highlight'', as Jagger puts it, a deluxe re-release of the album with 10 extra tracks. In other words, it's PR, cut to a handy television length of one hour and shorn of anything that could not screen before the watershed. It is to the credit of the director Stephen Kijak - who also made the excellent documentary Scott Walker: 30 Century Man - that Stones in Exile is nevertheless vivid, richly textured, cinematic and fascinating. In it we glimpse an era that will never return; we also get to sit in the studio with these musicians who were so dissolute and yet hard-working to the point of obsession. The band was quite literally in exile. Appalling, dishonest management - the kind that seems to dog rock'n'rollers - had left them with vast tax bills and no means of paying them, so they were forced to leave the country until they had made the album that would start clearing their debts. The result was vast, ragged, dirty, ecstatic and brilliant. As Benicio del Toro says in a vox pop of famous fans at the end of the film, ''Rock'n'roll doesn't get any better.'' ''I don't know if it was my favourite,'' Jagger says, contrarily. ''I don't have a favourite album. I don't know how you could have a favourite - a favourite movie, a favourite anything - because one day you might not be in the mood for a really grungy album like this one and you might want something smoother and more polished: you might prefer Tattoo You some days.'' Still, he can see that Exile on Main Street stands alone. ''One of the great things about it is that you've got Mick [Taylor] playing brilliantly and Keith [Richards] also but they have diametrically opposed styles: Mick's got this very fluid, melodic style and Keith's got this very rhythmic style, so they work very well together.'' There was a lot of tension between the guitarists, however, which contributed to Taylor leaving the band two years later. Jagger says he speaks to Taylor often. Fans were thus in a lather when news leaked that Taylor was putting down new guitar tracks for the additional songs, none of which had been finished at the time. Only one of them had lyrics. Did Jagger have to think himself back into the 1970s to write words? ''Well, you know, I just wrote what came into my head,'' Jagger says. ''But you do get into the mood of it. Then again, after a while, it's just music. It could have been done last week as far as I was concerned. It doesn't really matter.'' As the film shows, this is more considered than the lyrics for the songs on the 1972 release; most were last-minute. 'Tumbling Dice' was based on a conversation Jagger had with a maid who liked gambling; for 'Casino Boogie', he and Richards cut up words and assembled them at random. There is a strong sense, watching the band and their retinue in the warren of rooms in the Villa Nellcote, that Jagger always had his hand on the tiller. A film shot during the tour by Robert Frank, Cocksucker Blues, was put under permanent lock and key because it was not Jagger's ''vision of what it should be'', although some sequences and out-takes form part of Stones in Exile. As a producer, Jagger describes the new film as his; he was ''very involved''. It can't have been easy for Kijak but he recognised his paymaster as a force he could not match. ''He's a dynamo and his instincts are extraordinary,'' Kijak says. ''In the edit, sometimes he's come in and you'd think, you know: 'Now look, you make the albums, now let us make the film, right?' He'd sit there and throw out editorial comments and you'd just shake your head and say: 'What is he talking about?' And then about a day later you'd think, 'Dammit, he's right.''' Did the band have Jagger to thank for holding together its wayward elements for so long? Kijak shrugs. ''I don't know. That's a huge question. From my point of view they were there first. They wrote the book that is sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. That didn't exist until they came along; they mastered it and they've done it better than most people.'' Plus, of course, there must be a portrait of Mick with a bit of a paunch, showing his age, in the archive, right? Under the circumstances, Kijak can't tell us everything. Stones in Exile is out on DVD through Shock Entertainment on June 11. The Age |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Ginda on Jun 4th, 2010 at 11:09am
"Jagger says he speaks to Taylor often." Keep talking, fellas, is the word from this corner. Work something out. Not a punishing tour that would be hard on MT, but SOMETHING.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Jun 4th, 2010 at 12:40pm
Can't wait to see that film, it's really going be something great to see.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 5th, 2010 at 1:02pm Don Was discusses his work on the reissue of 'Exile On Main St' at the Grammy Museum June 4 Phyllis Pollack Don Was at the Grammy Museum with Scott Goldman. Photo ©Vicky Sapp/Wire Image Musician and producer Don Was discussed his work on the reissue of the Rolling Stones Exile On Main St. at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles on Wednesday night, a work that included ten previously unreleased bonus tracks. Was presented his fast-moving presentation on the soundstage at the museum’s newly renamed Clive Davis Auditorium, in a question and answer session moderated by Scott Goldman, Vice President of the Grammy Foundation. The audience was enraptured throughout the presentation, and often in laughter, owing to Was’ trail of witty remarks, as he recounted his role in the album’s reissue. The 1972 album, originally recorded at Villa Nellcote, has been surrounded by fabled tales that have been documented by photographer Dominique Tarle, whose photos can be seen in the upcoming DVD Stones In Exile. Tarle has penned a book of his memoirs of shooting the band while they recorded the album. The original album’s producer was the late Jimmy Miller. Former Stones guitarist Mick Taylor, who had replaced Brian Jones, and preceded Ronnie Wood, was brought back to contribute to the reissue set. Was noted that Richards spent three days in New York to record his parts for the bonus tracks, and that Mick Jagger had not seen guitarist Mick Taylor in twenty five-years. As far as Taylor’s newly added licks he contributed, Was commented that Taylor “knocked them out in an hour.” The presentation started with a viewing the preview DVD disc that is included in the Deluxe Version of the reissue from Universal Music Group. The evening was laced with Was’ wry humor, as he discussed his task of going through hundreds of studio session tapes, in an effort to select and produce bonus tracks for the album’s reissue. How many tapes were there? “I don’t know,” said Was. He recounted that “about a little over year ago, Mick called me up. I could tell the way he was talking to me,” that Jagger sounded as if he was going to ask him to do something that no one would want to do, “like take out the garbage.” Wryly, Was said that Mick had told him he was sending four discs, adding yet more humor to the story of his producing the album. Was explained there were four CDs that he and Richards had gotten together, and they had narrowed it down to some fragments. They felt “There must be something we can salvage.” Was, who had previously worked with the Stones, and did stunning work on the Rolling Stones' Voodoo Lounge, and contributed to their Bigger Bang album, and is credited on their 40 Licks and Live Licks. Despite rare, gourmet bootlegs that include a 1972 double album vinyl bootleg Taxile On Mainstreet/What’s Left Alive, surprisingly very little officially unreleased material has returned from those sessions. Was reminisced about when he was younger, and he had first heard the album Exile On Main St. Recalling his attending the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, surrounded by a political underground that included the Students for Democratic Society (SDS) and the Weatherman, Was indicated, “There was a growing sense you couldn’t work in the system...You had to get out, or blow it up.” Was said that his left-leaning environment, coupled with listening to Exile, had a profound impact on him, and that he would make the decision to drop out of college. He then joked that was not likely Mick Jagger’s intent when the British vocalist recorded the album. Was described Exile as having “a pretty inspiring rock and roll message.” Was felt compelled to heed whatever that call was. He then said in jest, “It’s pretty clear, what they had in mind was, ‘Let’s get our money back.’ “People look to musicians not as gurus, political leaders, leaders,” he said, in an effort to elucidate how the fans’ view them. It was clear that in his mind, when it came to The Stones, the band’s music was stronger than just a fad, or some sort of “fashion,” a word that Was used twice when explaining what The Stones were not about. “I’m just a big fan of that version of the band. You have to remember Jim Price, Bobby Keys, and Nicky Hopkins,” he said. Was also spoke of his admiration for Miller, and his work with Traffic and the Spencer Davis Group. Was alluded to Bob Ludwig’s remastering it “in the modern lexicon.” Was referred to the sound on Exile as “murky.” He described the sound, saying, “It’s grainy, like Tarle’s photos. Swampy, murky, impenetrable.” Was made note of the fact that so many artists have unsuccessfully tried to capture the feel and sound of Exile in their own works. “Mick and Keith are oppositional. Mick is singing R&B, but Keith is playing rock,” said Was. He described “the width in the phrasing, discussing drummer Charlie Watts’ playing, timing and syncopation. Explaining Watts’ drumming, he said, “Picture a grid where two things meet. None of the great drummers are literally on the beat. They’re a little behind on it.” He noted, “You can graph it out. Charlie’s bass, snare and high hat timing, versus a quantized drum machine.” He joked about what the result would be of quantizing Watts’ tracks, saying, “Maybe if you’re making a Kraftwerk record.” “Charlie Watts is diving into an Olympic size pool. Wherever it lands, it’s going to sound good. That is part of the elements” that achieve the band’s unique sound. He then referred to other musicians that play Stones covers, but do not get the sound that The Stones achieve. “You can play all the open G strings you want,” said Was, referring to Keith’s use of such tuning. The song has to have all of those elements, he said. Was made it clear that he understands how The Stones draw out their musical map, in several ways where ultimately, it’s the singer, not the song, when it comes achieving the end result in the studio. Was also noted the way The Stones merge guitar riffs with the melody of a song, and why the collision of the two works. While rumors and postings have persisted in the internet for years that there is unreleased material featuring Keith Richards and the late Gram Parsons, it has been clear for even longer that there are none. Was again confirmed that fact last night, noting of the ill-fated singer, songwriter and guitarist, “His influence is heard” on the band, acknowledged Was, as “He turned Keith onto American country music.” Country leanings can be heard in many Stones tracks including “Country Honk,” and subsequent recordings such as “Faraway Eyes.” “Country Honk” would later become “Honky Tonk Women,” for which Richards has largely accredited the resulting sound to Taylor. Was discussed the fact that “the vocals were pushed down” on the original version of Exile on Main St., an unexpected thing to do, which he said was likely due to a decision made by the late Miller. Referring to himself, Jagger and Richards, Was explained, “We started early on, as to how loud should be.” He pre-empted any questions about conflict between the Stones lead singer and anyone else by promptly adding, “There was never a confrontation about it.” He said that with the track “Following The River,” “It was really (keyboardist) Nicky (Hopkins) and Keith playing. There was no indication of what the lyrics or the melody would be, so Mick had to approach it from scratch.” It was poignant when Was talked about the first time he listened to that bonus track. He thought it was Jagger’s way of saying the band would never tour again. Was referred to its lyric line, “There's been some other lads in this room with me, we're really quite a crowd, It's hard to break it gently, but I really thought it through, I don't think there's much future left for me and you.” “The first time I heard it, I heard it as a farewell to the (live) audience. It was really chilling. It was really emotional,” commented Was. At that juncture, it was clearly evident the audience seemed concerned and dismayed about the idea of The Rolling Stones never touring again. There was a momentary tenseness felt in the room. “But I talked to him (Jagger), and it was something else,” confirmed Was. As might be expected from those who came to see Was at the Grammy Museum, quite audible, unintentional sighs of relief and long exhaled breaths were heard after that quote from was. Between that commentary and Was’ often comedic delivery, it was a lively evening, worthy of the album. Was acknowledged, “He didn’t do it from the point of view of a 28-year old man.” He added that Jagger “remained excited throughout the rest of the project.” When asked by Examiner where Richards’ instrumental bonus track “Title 5” came from in the mass of tapes, as it does not sound like anything remotely close to Exile works, he stated it was not from any of the Exile sessions. He said with a laugh, “Richards barely remembered it, and thinks he was testing out a pedal” used for guitar effects. Was talked about how loose it was back then, as far as how master reels were dealt with. He joked as he talked about how arbitrarily with many albums, someone at a later stage in an album’s release could make changes after the producer had completed his work on it. The reigns were not held as tightly as they are now, and people that were not sanctioned to make such revisions on an album sometimes took license. As far as cataloguing the Stones works, Was noted there are places where you can find discographies listing session dates and studio sessions. Was’ statement is easily proven true if you know where to look for these lists, or have already been aware of such sources. They are fascinating as to seeing when songs have been recorded, just as Was noted last night, “The band is known for” using songs on albums that were culled from past recording sessions. Was told the Grammy Museum audience, “There were no notes,” pointing out, “Things were written on the box. You don’t know subsequently what happened to the songs.” Regarding Richards’ track “Take 5,” Was offered, “I’m guessing it is post Their Satanic Majesties Request.” When an audience member asked a question about the effect of heroin use on the album’s sound, Was had an answer, as Richards was clearly on top of his game while recording Exile. As far as the long fabled partying, decadence and debauchery at Nellcote, Was stated, “You can’t do that many tapes, you can’t be incapacitated.” Acknowledging the “partying upstairs” at Nellcote, Was said, “I don’t think it had tremendous influence with what went on downstairs,” where the band recorded in France, in addition to the mobile truck outside the Villa. Was commented that when working on the reissue, his mission was to “stay true with what they (The Rolling Stones) intended.” He elaborated that while he was working on the album, Keith Richards sent him a fax emphasizing, “Don’t try to make it sound like Exile, it is Exile.” He said that while producing the tracks, he felt obligated to keep in mind that “preserving the mystery is an important part of my gig.” The band wanted works from that time period for the bonus tracks. “We wanted to play this by the book,” said Was. Was also talked about the Stones staple “Tumblin’ Dice,” and how low the vocals were on it. At one point, Was said, “Mick just thinks they sent the wrong version.” Was also acknowledged, “I worked with Khrish Sharma, a great engineer.” Although he did not mention it during his presentation, Sharma had also worked with many times with Was on his own projects, adding to their noteworthy chemistry in the studio. Was was emphatic about his dedication to “stay true to the intent” of the album’s original release. Was added that while working on the tracks, he would often wonder of Jimmy Miller, “What would he have done? I don’t know. He mixed the vocals down.” Was remains baffled by the decision to push those vocals down in the original release. “Wow, don’t you want to listen to it? But that’s how they made that record.” As far as the manifest, Was acknowledge of the masters, “None of them are in the state they left Nellcote in, since they were taken to Olympic.” The Stones had brought the reels from Nellcote to Los Angeles, where they were completed at Olympic Studios. The photos taken on L.A.’s Main St. in the city’s downtown area by noted photographer Robert Frank, would end up being a historic part of the Stones’ Exile period. Bob Clearmountain being involved again with The Stones to remix the album was also noted by Was. Stated Was, “I think it’s got a little more depth to it,” but, Was noted, the sound of the reissue is still in keeping with the sonic intent of the original incarnation. Was, who has long been a member of his band Was (Not Was) won a Grammy Award in the category of Producer Of The Year in 1995. He has worked with many artists, including Bob Dylan and Bonnie Raitt. Was felt it was important to set the record straight, and to go on record regarding the response to the original Exile album, by mentioning the positive reviews that were published at the time of the original album’s release in music publications that included UK’s Melody Maker. Before playing outtakes last night, Was said he talked to Mick earlier in the day, and asked his permission to do so. The audience laughed when Was said, “and he (Jagger) sends his best to you.” He added, “And he said he was interested in what you would think about it.” Was noted, “There was never a sense these would be of value to anyone four decades later.” He said, therefore, “So you couldn’t find the tapes.” Was played outtakes and from multi-track recording, played vocal parts for tracks such as “Loving Cup,” including a hilarious outtake of Richards and Jagger sounding countrified, drunk and partied up, gearing up for the recording. Richards can be heard at one point, exclaiming, “Get it on.” Was went to great length to explain what he feels sets The Stones apart musically, and how they get their signature sound. He attributed it much to Charlie Watts’ ability to know to slightly evade the exact beat, and make it sound right musically. As he played single tracks, such as an instrumental, he would say, “Here’s Keith’s guitar.” Upon Watts’ drum riffs playing, Was said, “You can hear Keiths’ guitar track bleeding into it.” Was gave accolades to bassist Bill Wyman, at one point referring to one of his licks as “genius.” He noted that Bill Plummer, who adds bass parts on the album, is often incorrectly credited for Wyman’s work on it. Was gushed, “I developed a whole new respect for him (Wyman) on the new tracks.” Was joked about the bonus track “Dancing In the Light,” saying that he had toyed with the thought of adding some bass to it, himself. “I’m at home. Who’s gonna know?” joked Was. “Forget it,” said Was. “He’s (Wyman) one of the great bass players of all time.” Was briefly also mentioned some behind-the-scenes discussions that occurred during the recording of Bridges To Babylon, noting experimenting with loops, including one from Dr. Dre’s album The Chronic, which was obviously not used for the 1997 Stones album. Those present were delighted to hear Was’ personal insights into the fans’ passion for the Stones, and the band’s ability to remain one of the top concert draws internationally. Was pontificated that fans project themselves into the band, and into the meanings of their lyrics. He used his incorrect assumption about the lyrics from “Follow The River” as and example of such projections. Was also joked, “If Mick Jagger is ten years older than I am, and he’s running all over the stage like that, then I’m not old yet.” He stated his belief that fans neuroses merge into their attraction for the band, and that “Something in the combination of those five guys fills it.” Was said of Keith Richards, “He’s your designated Wildman. It (admiration of Richards) verifies that ‘it’ is still alive in you.” Was talked about Pierre DeBeauport, and recounted a humorous story, involving the fact that he and the band needed to get a copy of the original release on vinyl in mint condition. Therefore, resorting to look in the record collectors magazine Goldmine, and found two people selling it, who they talked to coming down to deliver the albums. “We were recording at my house on Mullholland Drive,” said Was. “They didn’t know who it was, and Mick and Keith were buying their albums.” Was recounted the band spent $250,000.00 on tape, alone, while recording Bridges To Babylon, and the band had a “day librarian and a night librarian” to keep track of the album’s recording session tapes. “There’s always something that comes out two or three years later,” he said, referring to works of the band that appear on later albums. Was raved about a still unreleased track recorded for Goats Head Soup called “Scarlet,” proclaiming, “It could be a hit.” (Writers note: A Richards composition, "Scarlet" was recorded at Olympic Studios.) After the event, Was sat at a table in the museum, and signed copies of the reissue that are available for purchase at the Grammy Museum, offering a meet and greet. The band has a slew of outtakes Was, who says the Stones’ Some Girls era was one of his favorite places in the band’s timeline, said, “There’s a ton of stuff in the vault from that period,” adding, “You could easily make ten or twelve records like this Exile thing.” It won't be a minute too soon. The Examiner A very good read. Haters be damned, Was provides insight that few others can. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Jun 5th, 2010 at 1:24pm
Indeed, thanks for sharing !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by homesickjameswilliamson on Jun 5th, 2010 at 7:47pm Thanks for posting that article Left Shoe Shuffle, very interesting so he kinda hinted that along with a some girls reiusse/expansion there may be others such as goats head soup, and hinted that there could be a new album - by way of material recorded for BTB and emphasising they aren't done touring / playing maybe im reading too much into his comments, but sounds good nonetheless, thanks again HJW |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Jun 5th, 2010 at 8:05pm
Can't really see the part where a new album got hinted at ? If anything the B2B outtakes (which rumoured to be numerous by J. Karnbach) don't seem to have been reused for ABB...
But yes Scarlet is back on the table (he already got us confused, when he mentioned it when the new tracks were discussed last year), not sure how it's 1974 recording of it with Jimmy Page in Montreux fits the GHS timeframe, but we shall see... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by homesickjameswilliamson on Jun 6th, 2010 at 12:40am Quote:
yeh, i just thought the way he said ''There’s always something that comes out two or three years later" just sounded weird, like i said, probably just reading too much into it i'd love to hear scarlet, i realy like GHS, one of those ones i dont listen to very often |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Jun 7th, 2010 at 7:02am
Excellent article from our ole pal Phyllis (even though I'm a bit confused about the bit about the reels being taken 'from Nellcote to Los Angeles, where they were completed at Olympic Studios' - surely they were completed at Sunset Sound in Hollywood - Olympic Studios is just outside London).
And you're right. The criticism of Was (much of it BEFORE anyone had heard a note of these songs or even had a clue what was going to be on them) is very often extremely petty. A lot of the flak directed at the musicians employed by the Stones can be put down to downright jealousy on the part of fans who are wannabee musicians, producers etc. He's been a dream interview over the last few months. It helps immensely that he's as much a fanatic about this stuff as we are. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:51am
PMS sounds simply brilliant at the pool
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:43pm
Was does get alot of flak and I'm guilty as charged.
I think Was gets alot of flak because he appears to be a tool. He appears to simply nod yes and no and maybe we're expecting too much from him. Great producers challenge, like Jimmy Miller, the Johns brothers, Rick Rubin etc..... Mick and Keith could use a kick in the ass once in a while....they've gotten lazy, rested on their laurels, and Was might be too much of a fan to make a difference. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:51pm
Thing is though almost 40 years have passed. Back then, the likes of Jimmy Miller were seen as the experienced professionals with the Stones being kids who were still a bit wet behind the ears in terms of knowing how to make records.
Fast forward to 2010 and the Stones have a lot more authority, pulling power, status - whatever. In rock n roll terms, they're pretty much deities and that must be pretty intimidating for any outsider coming in to work with them. Had the likes of Jimmy Miller been around today and working with them for the first time while still in his late 20's, he might have found himself in the same daunting position. Rubin was the one producer who worked with them (or one of them) in recent years who wasnt put off by their reputation and who stood up for himself. It didn't go down well, even though it produced pretty good results, and the experience was never repeated. Its very unlikely it ever will be, either. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 7th, 2010 at 4:16pm The new/old stuff sounds great. Major kudos to Was for his part in making a silk purse from those boxes of sows ears... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 7th, 2010 at 4:19pm
You're right on every count Gazza. I can't imagine there being any young producer who could tell the Stones what to do. Rick Rubin got fanatastic results, and considering the fact that Wandering Spirit remains one of the best Stones-related releases in the last 20+ years, the size of Mick's ego must be huge to not want to repeat that. It's like when keith whipped CHuck Berry into shape in "Hail, Hail Rock and Roll". SOmeone needs to do that with the Stones.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 7th, 2010 at 5:04pm
sometimes I'll just drop what I'm doing and listen to PMS.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 7th, 2010 at 6:14pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 5:04pm:
It's back on continuous play in my car. I'll just repeat, repeat..... I was trying to explain to my friend why this song is so good. He says it goes nowhere.... But it's got something more important to me: that beautiful minor chord riff and the way they accent it; great lyrics and a great vocal performance from Jagger. Jagger has written alot of trite bullshit lyrics that were meant to be touching in the last 20-odd years (Streets of Love etc)but they rarely work because he sounds like he's trying too hard. This song is what happens when he really means it. It sounds effortless, it has depth, like had to get something off his chest. The fact that he brought in Mick Taylor says alot. Retrospection, instrospection works for Jagger. I know Keith says he was all retroed out, but if they're not getting their rocks off now, then I'm fine with the retro. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 7th, 2010 at 6:17pm texile wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 6:14pm:
me nizzle... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by The Wick on Jun 8th, 2010 at 7:31pm texile wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 6:14pm:
Beautifully put. You put my thoughts into words. The lyrics are really outstanding. The opening line is so strong and it maintains throughout the song and I never thought Mick Taylor could just drop in and play like that again. It is really an unbelievable track. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:32pm The Wick wrote on Jun 8th, 2010 at 7:31pm:
It may be their best song ever... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:36pm That other Some Guy hated it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 8th, 2010 at 11:07pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:36pm:
sure, originally at first listen on crappy lap top speakers I felt it was a bigger let down than fruit striped gum but now I have seen the light. Why you gotta keep going there? Can a brotha get a break? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 8th, 2010 at 11:52pm
Is it too late to become the founder/charter member of the Dancing in the Light appreciation society?......If not sign me up. :keithpunky :willya :booze
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Jun 9th, 2010 at 2:12pm Gazza wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:51pm:
Given the Stones legacy if I was Mick and Keith I'd pretty much want my ass kissed too. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 9th, 2010 at 9:33pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:32pm:
I'll say its the best since Beast of Burden. It's got so much soul and sadness and Jagger drops that pathetic, strangled-cat whine he's been using for the the last 20+ years....I find myself singing along to it in my car without cringing at the lyrics or phony sentiments and vocal posterings of latter-day Jagger. It sounds like the guy who made Some Girls and Exile and that guy has been missing for a long fucking time. He sounds like a man who finally realizes he fucked up something that meant something and still feels the sting...and no, I don't mean Jerry Hall. This song has a sense of wistful meloncholy and bittersweet resolution that only comes a long time after the fact - Jagger was looking way back for this and dug something out.. Marianne? Bianca? I suspect the latter given the time frame but it doesn't really matter...Most of us are old enough to relate to regret and that's what makes it powerful personally. It soars..like the best Stones always does...[i]that beautiful minor 7 and the way Charlie crashes on it..it sounds like heartbreak... This thread is dying a slow death and I'm going to miss it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 10th, 2010 at 2:41pm 'Stones In Exile' is released in the UK and the rest of the world next Tuesday, 6/15. North American release is 6/22. There has been, over the years, a veritable mountain of debate, conjecture, written words and mythologizing about this most classic album. It has been the subject of books, of rumors, of innuendo, of stories that have only added to the Stones’ legend. Now, for the first time, one can step back in time to the spring of 1971 and enter the villa called Nellcote at Villefranche-sur-Mer in the South of France where Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor created and recorded this most classic of albums in the most chaotic of circumstances. The footage is extraordinary. It includes interviews with all five Stones as well as sections of the long-dormant notorious Cocksucker Blues movie, which every Rolling Stones fan has talked about, wondered about, but few have actually seen. Other key cinematic moments have Mick and Charlie returning to Olympic Studios where some of the early Exile work was laid down, as well as Mick’s country estate, Stargroves. There’s also a star-studded list of contributors to this film who share their most intimate remembrances: Martin Scorsese, Anita Pallenberg, producer Jimmy Miller, engineer Andy Johns, photographer Dominique Tarlé, legendary sax man Bobby Keys and many others. DVD features over an hour of additional bonus footage not included in the TV broadcast version. Eagle Rock Entertainment 'Ladies And Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones' is coming Autumn 2010. I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more 'Exile'! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Steel Wheels on Jun 10th, 2010 at 2:58pm
Plundered My Soul is very hard for me to listen to right now. My girl and I split up and every fucking word relates to me. It's the greatest song I've ever heard....and the hardest to listen to.
Mick is writing from a real place. Not as some rock star, but as a real man going through some terrible shit with his gal. Thanks Mick for making artwork. Artwork that relates to me. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 10th, 2010 at 3:01pm
Cool....
Now is this different than the one broadcast on the BBC? I keep reading reviews from people who saw that version and its like..'ehh, disappointed....' But the critics reviewing the version shown in Cannes are saying its great, cinematic etc... Either way, this preview sounds orgasmic. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 10th, 2010 at 3:08pm 'Stones In Exile' is 61 minutes long. Dunno if the BBC aired the complete film. The version shown on "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" was much shorter. I liked it. And as mentioned in the press release, the DVD will include considerable bonus footage. Worth the 15 bucks, imo... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 12th, 2010 at 8:06am Stones planned escape route to evade police capture in France June 11, 2010 The Rolling Stones were so paranoid about getting busted by police during their sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll adventure at Keith Richards' French retreat in 1971, they devised an escape plan devised to help the band and their families make a quick getaway. The rockers set up home in the South of France to record classic album Exile on Main Street, and Richards' Nellcote chateau, where the guitarist created a recording studio, became a hangout for drug dealers and dodgy characters. And the rocker's then-girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg, reveals Richards and his bandmates were so worried about their country home studio being raided by the police, they came up with a clever plan to make a hasty escape and leave hangers-on and groupies to face the law. In new documentary Stones in Exile, she says, "We had this escape route that we planned... You could jump out the window, where I was sleeping and then jump on the bus (outside) and get out really quickly. "Otherwise it was all these corridors and staircases. We had it all pretty sussed." Pallenberg admits she was more familiar with the escape plan than most - because she was always using it to escape the creeps who took over Nellcote. She adds, "It was like a freeloading place. I got more and more bored with all these people and became a bouncer. I remember standing on top of the stairs and just throwing stuff and emptying a room out that somebody slept in. I'd just throw these clothes down and everybody was like, 'She's a monster!' "For a period I lived in a room just above the bus that was also part of our escape." WENN |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:24am
So how did we do on sales? Was it huge??
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 16th, 2010 at 12:59pm
I was wondering the same thing. I don't even know how they measure a success anymore....
You used to be able to get an idea from airplay - whether it was MTV or the radio, but I don't know anymore. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by luxury on Jun 16th, 2010 at 2:55pm texile wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 9:33pm:
...could be inspired by some errant groupie |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:26pm
It's Cynthia Sagittarius! Or maybe Angie Bowie...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by luxury on Jun 17th, 2010 at 7:56am
...guess he was misunderstood
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Jun 18th, 2010 at 6:57am Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 2:58pm:
Yeah, songs have a way of touching our hearts and giving us something to hold onto, somehow it comforts us knowing we are not the only ones going through personal pain and suffering. Hang in there Steel Wheels! Look on the bright side ~ there's plenty of fish in the sea. Go and check out someone new, that's the only way to get over it. It's summertime, so have some fun, Dont let the world pass you by that's one of my favorite MICK lyrics. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gotdablouse on Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:34pm
That would be from...TOPS ? Another old song he put lyrics to in 1980 for Tattoo You !
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 18th, 2010 at 2:44pm Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 2:58pm:
And if its any consolation, in the last verse, Mick sings: 'Upon quiet reflection, my sad rejection is not a total digrace,' To me, its like he's saying that after the heartbreak, life went on. 'But I do miss ....' Even though you will always miss the thing you lost, the person, other things come into your life. Your heart doesn't forget, but it does live on, like Celine Dion says...ha! And as Bitch said, that's the great thing about art, music, at its best, it speaks to you. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 19th, 2010 at 8:19am DVD Review: Stones in Exile Author: El Bicho — Published: Jun 18, 2010 In conjunction with the release of the 2010 expanded edition of their classic album Exile on Main St., this hour-long documentary presents the chapter of the Rolling Stones' history when the album was created. Bookended by reactions from modern musicians (Will.I.Am, Jack White, Sheryl Crow, and Caleb Followill) as well as associates they have worked with (Don Was and Martin Scorsese), this part of the Stones' story is told through archival footage and present-day interviews by band members, including Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor who were there at the time, and others involved in the album's creation like producer Jimmy Miller and engineer Andy Johns. The first 20 minutes explains how the band found themselves in southern France. They left England due to the country's exorbitant tax rate. Keith Richards, along with his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg (who is also interviewed), rented a villa near Nice. Mick Jagger married Bianca Jagger. The remaining 40 minutes covers the recording of the album and other occurrences during that time. Though all the information may not be new, Stones fans should be happy listening to the band reflecting back nearly 40 years on Exile's creation. There's footage of Charlie Watts and Mick Jagger revisiting Olympic Studios, which Mick amusingly points out he wasn't going to do when this film was being planned. It also great to hear audio between takes as they work things out. To augment the visuals, clips are taken from two films shot during the Stones' American tour in support of Exile, the infamous Cocksucker Blues and Ladies and Gentlemen… The Rolling Stones, the latter of which is getting restored for a release on Blu-ray later this year. Sometimes the video doesn't appear to match the story as it looks like footage from Gimme Shelter of the band playing New York appears as they talk about their farewell tour of England before heading off into exile. The DVD is augmented by a good amount of bonus features that are worth watching. "Extended Interviews" (33 min) present Richards, Wyman, Taylor, Pallenberg, and Watts further elaborating. Current Stone Ronnie Wood offers his thoughts on meeting the band and the album. "Return to Stargroves and Olympic Studios" (9 min) finds Jagger and Watts reminiscing about what took place at those locations in relation to Exile. "Exile Fans" (40 mins) presents longer bits of the celebrity interviews that bookend the film and could have been a special all on its own. They are insightful as they discuss the effects the album had on each of them. Stones in Exile does a very good job providing the history of the band and the album, but it's directed at people who are already fans. If you don't know the Exile on Main St. album, start there. blogcritics.org |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by gimmekeef on Jun 19th, 2010 at 10:40am
If you don't know the Exile on Main St. album, start there.
good advice...should be taught in schools starting in kindergarten! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Jun 19th, 2010 at 12:39pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 19th, 2010 at 8:19am:
The weakest part of modern music documentaries is the inclusion of the VH1-ish, commentary by modern, hipsters who have absolutely, zero relevance to the subject matter at hand. Jack White is fine, he's rock n roll, but dolts from the black eyed peas and kings of leon included in a discussion about Exile?? Come'on! I bet Caleb Followill only knows who the Stones are because he's seen their t-shirts at Hot Topic. And I hate to burst Sheryl's bubble, but even if she'd showed up to Nellcote with a pound of cocaine up her crotch she still wouldn't have been cool enough to get in |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by GotToRollMe on Jun 20th, 2010 at 8:17pm
Jagger on Larry King Live Exclusive right now (CNN) - Sunday 9-10pm Eastern Time.
Edit: I see this is a rerun of last month's show. Ah well, if you missed it, here's your chance to catch it (or tape it). |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 21st, 2010 at 2:16pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jun 19th, 2010 at 12:39pm:
the talking heads will be a distraction. IN an article with the director, he admitted that that aspect was a concession with studio heads or whoever is releasing or promoting it, but i would think Mick and Keith would have the utlimate power.... I love Benicio D. and I don't mind the PEP or KOL, but their input they're not relevant. That time could have been given to MT, or maybe a mention of Billy Preston, Nicky Hopkins etc..... These docs always have the requisite hipsters of the time, and the problem is is this is the definitive documentation of Exile, they will forever be that distraction to the glory of this piece. It's like when you watch a music documentary from the 80s and you see Howard Jones and think, 'wow, what happen to him and why is he talking...' I'm surprised they drag Bono into this. He's waved his divine wand over docs about Motown, Stax, the Blues, Sinatra....... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 21st, 2010 at 2:41pm As the reviewer notes, those interviews bookend the film. The "distraction" is marginal at best. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 21st, 2010 at 5:17pm
when does the dvd drop?
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Jun 21st, 2010 at 5:24pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 5:17pm:
just saw a commerical for it on CNN. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 7:34am
is it out today???
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 7:40am left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 7:37am:
Thanks sniff, I'm checking BB today. Extensive additional footage including interviews with all the band members, footage from "Cocksucker Blues", and Mick Jagger and Charlie Watts returning to Olympic Studios and Jagger’s country house Stargroves where a lot of the early work on the album was done. Full Product Details Scene Index Disc #1 -- Rolling Stones: Stones in Exile 1. Sign of the Times [1:37] 2. Stones Roll out [7:01] 3. Riviera [7:42] 4. The Tribe [4:30] 5. Keith's Basement Jam [5:50] 6. Roots [7:21] 7. Late and Loud [5:15] 8. La Dolce Vita [8:50] 9. Sunset Sounds [5:46] 10. Stones Roll in [3:59] 11. How Good Does It Get? [2:47] 1. Keith Richards [8:24] 2. Bill Wyman [6:55] 3. Mick Taylor [2:45] 4. Anita Pallenberg [6:15] 5. Charlie Watts [5:57] 6. Ronnie Word [3:08] Scene Index Editorial Reviews In the spring of 1971, the Rolling Stones reluctantly departed the UK to take up residence in France. Keith Richards settled at a villa called Nellcôte in Villefranche-sur-Mer, which became the venue for the recording of much of the band’s masterpiece "Exile On Main Street." The feature-length documentary Stones In Exile tells the story in the band’s own words and through extensive archive footage of their time away from England and the creation of this extraordinary double album, which many regard as the Rolling Stones’ finest achievement. Bonus features include extensive additional footage including interviews with all the band members. From the Producers |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 12:36pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 7:34am:
Should be, it says release on the 22nd, has anybody got this? how long is this DVD? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 12:53pm Stones In Exile - 61 min Extras "Extended Interviews" - 33 min "Return to Stargroves and Olympic Studios" - 9 min "Exile Fans" - 40 min |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 12:57pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 12:53pm:
Thanks for the Info LSS. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 1:20pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 7:34am:
I was confused. I had read that it would be released last Tuesday and Friday, after payday, looked all over for it - couldn't find it. So today is the day..... Im also confused about the big box set, the $189. deal - huge, with vinyl, cds, a book etc.... but it also says it has "Ladies and" and CS Blues - why would those be released in that set if Ladies is set to be released officially in August? I still don't get it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 1:28pm DVD in Super Deluxe is 30 min and features excerpts from Stones In Exile, L&G and CS Blues. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 6:48am
Yeah the DVD is in Target and Best Buy for $13.99. Amazon & Borders has it for $11.99. Barnes & Noble has it for $9.99 online only. I'm going to buy it today, although I heard it is not 151 minutes as previously advertised on Amazon. It's 90 minutes or only 51 minutes, depending if you count in the 'extras'. Whatever it is it's worth a look! Anything NEW at this point is always welcome!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Some Guy on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:18am
It's great! best buy has it 13.99.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by uncleson on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 4:13pm
I watched my DVD last night and really enjoyed it!
The band member interviews were great. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:25am
for those who are ok with illegal downloading, the japanese version is availalble in lossless on demonoid... if you're like me, you just want one song and can't afford a million yen...
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Jun 24th, 2010 at 2:02pm Pdog wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:25am:
which song is it again, an alt. take of ADTL right? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Jun 24th, 2010 at 4:27pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 2:02pm:
it has the bonus track that was a UK only iTunes free offer... except this isn't an Mp3... The mastering is different, as it sounds brighter and a little thinner IMO... I never liked the original CBS digital version, so I gor rid of it.. I now have 3 different difgital version, 1994, 2010 UMG and the Japanese... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Bitch on Jun 24th, 2010 at 7:34pm
I got the LAST copy of the DVD at Bestbuy for $13.99 + tax = $14.97. They only had a few in stock. Runtime = 151 minutes. The cover is nice!
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Jun 24th, 2010 at 8:02pm Pdog wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 4:27pm:
I heard that version of ADTL on itunes a while back, it sounded like a loose version of ADTL, almost like demo like. Nothing to die for, but I wish they'd included it on all the deluxe versions of EOM, because disc 2 is a bit lean and could use the presence of a Stones rocker. When you compare the 2010 Universal EOM to the old '94 Virgin remaster, the 2010 is a tad louder, but overall the sound quality is about the same, amazing how good of a job they did in '94 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Pdog on Jun 24th, 2010 at 9:03pm Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jun 24th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
I made my own personal version of the 2nd disc... I start it with the bonus ADTL from the japanese release and then append ADTL single mono mix and the Exile on main st. blues from the nme flexi, in really good quality... imo, this makes a uch better disc... I thought about adding the mono mix of Sweet Virginia... not sure why I didn't, just didn't click in anywhere... now that I have a lossless version of the alt. ADTL, I sleep much better at night... haha. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbling Dijs on Jun 25th, 2010 at 2:55pm
Nice (recent) interviews with Mick, Charlie, Keith, Bill, and Mick Taylor on the Exile bonus dvd. Made a number of screenshots but I can't manage to upload them.
It says: NOTICE: If you had an attachment in your post, you will need to reselect the attachment again in the browse box for security reasons. I tried it many times but it doesn't work. I never had this problem. Does anyone have an idea?? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbled on Jun 25th, 2010 at 3:10pm
I think that happens when the picture is too big.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Tumbling Dijs on Jun 25th, 2010 at 3:56pm Tumbled wrote on Jun 25th, 2010 at 3:10pm:
Thanks, but the pics are not too big. I'm thinking more of a browser security or firewall problem. Can't figure it out. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jun 25th, 2010 at 6:29pm "Exile On Your St." iPhone/Android app launched today - www.exileonyourstreet.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Jun 26th, 2010 at 5:05am
Bought the cd & extended dvd last night. Havent played the dvd yet (my footy team played last nigh, and we beat Geelong! Unreal!)
I'm a bit concerned the 'extras' might be crap. 40mins of other people talking about them or the record can be pretty annoying. As for the cd, i'm just onto Sweet Virginia. The improvement on that song is amazing. Havent noticed much else radically different on side 1 from the 94 remasters apart from the volume upgrade. Though to me, the high end's were really harsh & brittle on some songs. I thought Rip this joint particurlarly had an "overloaded" sound. Charlie's cymbals on Casino have been dramatically cleaned up as has his toms on TD. Looking forward to the rest. Be sure of that! One thing i noticed though was that Bill gets a credit for every track. Which as we know, aint true. Even tracks with Bill Plummer, BIll is also credited. UNLESS - Don Was added some of his bass parts. Was said in interviews for this that what really blew him away was Bill's playing. Maybe he spliced some extra Wyman in there? |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Jun 27th, 2010 at 4:13am
Watched the dvd last night, and wasnt overly impressed. So much left out. Virtually nothing about the L.A. sessions. Apparently, Billy Preston never played on this record! The 40mins of other people talking about it was actually ok for me. Ignoring that tool from Kings of Leon, he was brought in to give it some "hipness". Surprisingly, i thought Will.I.Am was ok (apart from saying "you know" every 5 words). He stated the obvious that this is an album to listen to in its entirety, not just d/l 1 or 2 tracks. I was most moved by Don Was & Liz Phair. They think exactly how i think about Exile. Phair hit the nail on the head for me about her emotional attachment to Exile. And i agree with her now that i dont want any one else to like it!
Odd huh? But thats how i feel. I'm happy the re-issue went well, but now and forever, i will have to listen to newbie fans who expected lots of Brown Sugar's & Jumping Jack Flashes to whine to me how the album sucked and how disappointed there was no double neck guitar solos. The doco was average at best and i wished i didnt buy it. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by stonedinaustralia on Jun 27th, 2010 at 4:35am
thanks corgi
i saw the tv doco version and enjoyed it very much i've seen the extended version in the shops and have resisted buying it (despite lefty's recommedations) for reasons which you only confirm i know enough people who know enough people that i will be able to get a copy sooner or later and i am happy to wait particularly having read your comments |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by corgi37 on Jun 28th, 2010 at 6:50am
Yep, do that. Or, wait 6mths or so, and JB will have it for $10.00.
I was hoping before this all came out that they'd do track by track review & story behind the songs like was done on that "Greatest albums" show about a decade ago. You know, the one with WHo's next, Bat out of hell etc. Those little shows were so informative (particularly the WHo's next one - man, when they isolated Moon's drums during "Bargain" = phew!). This could/should have been a long doco, but they wanted to celebrate the decadence, without really mentioning alot of what was going on. I would have loved Jagger to be at a mixing desk with the tapes playing & him fiddling about, but not to be. What i find truly astonishing, is very little of raw songs as they were working them. No early versions played/explained. The whole L.A. sessions are not even mentioned. Dr. John (my understanding is he obtained & arranged the back up singers) or Billy Preston (whose work really adds to Exile's flavour) dont even rate a brief mention. Perhaps most bizarre of all, is no mention what so ever in the main doco on the new songs. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by lotsajizz on Jun 28th, 2010 at 6:54am
I, also, was less than impressed with the DVD. That said, there was never any question of me not getting it.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jun 28th, 2010 at 1:27pm corgi37 wrote on Jun 27th, 2010 at 4:13am:
Not odd at all, as much as I want everyone else to see the depth of the Stones' greatness, Exile has always been on the fringe. Loving Exile is so far outside the standard album of hits that it begs real investment. Its like being part of a secret religion and nobody else gets it. Alas, I haven't seen it yet. Tired Best Buy, nope, Barnes..the kid is like 'is it new?' Nothing.....I'll have to check out fyes this Friday. I actually enjoying the anticipation and worried I might be dissapointed...its like: 'I only get my rocks off while I'm dreaming'.... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jul 4th, 2010 at 9:19am Some 'Exile'/Robert Frank minutiae... Answer Girl: Exile on Main Street By AUTUMN REED - Star-Tribune | Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 Hey, Answer Girl -- On my original 1972 release of the Exile on Main Street album by the Rolling Stones there is a picture on one of the liner sleeves of a scene in Casper. I want to know what is going on in this picture, where does the picture come from and how did it end up in a Rolling Stones album. -- Eric (I've had a few similar questions from other people) Well that's a really difficult question. As you can see, it's hard to see the detail in the photo. There is a group of civilians lining the left side, the women are wearing dresses and skirts and open shoes, so the weather must have been fairly nice, now we've narrowed it down to spring, summer or fall. The men have their hats off, and two little boys are saluting. In the middle there is a vehicle with a Wyoming license plate, county number one, license plate number 189. The sticker on the plate is 1956. The back of the car has the letters KS, and below that CAS. There are more letters, but the men are standing in the way. The car is a KSPR radio car, and underneath the KSPR it would have said Casper. Along the right side of the picture are a line of men in uniform, saluting as well. To me (and a few other people I asked) they look like Air Force uniforms. I did find out that the photographer who took all the pictures on the sleeve of the album Exile on Main Street was Robert Frank. In 1955, Frank received a grant from the John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation to travel across the U.S. and take photographs for a project on Americans and our way of life. The cities he visited included Butte, Mont., and Salt Lake City, so I think it's safe to assume he traveled through Casper. Frank took 28,000 pictures over the next two years, so it would be almost impossible to find the information through him. Kevin Anderson looked through the newspapers from 1956, and there isn't one event that stands out to him. He says it could be a funeral of a notable person or a veteran, one of the parades, a visit from a foreign dignitary or something like the Pony Express re-ride. He did check into some events that happened that year and ruled them out. His best guess is that the photo was taken during the Memorial Day services on May 30, 1956. It is just a guess, but his guesses seem to be fairly educated. Casper Star-Tribune |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jul 10th, 2010 at 9:42am www.recordstoreday.com/photo/418453463685 With an expanded, remastered edition of Exile On Main Street and the Stones In Exile DVD available right now at record stores, it’s never been a better time to be a fan of the Rolling Stones. And now, Record Store Day takes it over the top, with your chance to win a limited edition, uncut packaging sheet from the remastered and expanded edition of Exile on Main Street, pulled off the assembly line and eventually signed by KEITH RICHARDS, MICK JAGGER and CHARLIE WATTS!!! A limited edition piece of Stones history, signed by the Stones themselves, will be going to one lucky winner. Contest ends July 26. recordstoreday.com |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jul 11th, 2010 at 11:07am For Your Weekend Listening Pleasure: The Rolling Stones' Long Day's Journey Into Night at Sumet-Burnet Studios in June 1972 By Robert Wilonsky, Sat., Jul. 10 2010 Back in May I directed your attention to what remains my favorite Stones live comp, much of which comes from two Tarrant County Convention Center shows on June 24, 1972. Here's its exiled companion, which, till recently, I'd only heard in bits and pieces, and maybe with good reason -- it's six hours of fookin' around sqooshed into about 140 minutes' worth of music, most of which will appeal solely to fetishists, completists and the otherwise obsessed. Which means: you. Not till recently did I discover the story behind these 25 tracks, recorded between 8 p.m. on June 23 and 2 a.m. June 24 at the legendary Sumet-Burnet Recording Studio. Seems the band had fallen apart in KC the night before and needed a pit stop to put its shit back together. And so they pulled into Sumet-Burnet to run through a new set list. But a 4 p.m. start time stretched to 8 p.m., at which point it became "a lot of musicians sitting in, standing up, switching off on instruments, dozing, humming breaks, going for beer, and playing maybe one song all the way through," per Rolling Stone's Robert Greenfield in his book S.T.P: A Journey Through America With the Rolling Stones. (The tome, incidentally, is filled with lurid tales of the band's trip to town, during which they were accompanied by no less than Truman Capote, Peter Beard, Terry Southern, Robert Frank and Annie Liebowitz, among others, who flew into Love Field specifically for "a wild weekend in Big D with the Stones.") This is prime Stones -- long, deep tokes off blues jams that go on and on and on (and some, not long enough). There are nods to Slim Harpo; Robert Johnson covers; a "Satisfaction" jam that's polishes the golden-oldie till it shines even now like some brand-new thing; a "Gimme Shelter" instrumental that sounds in spots infinitely more druggy and dangerous than The Official Recording; 20 minutes of Exile's "Let it Loose" and other untitled free-for-alls. For starters. So rip this joint. Or, better still, spark it. Dallas Observer Good stuff. Grab it if you need it... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by texile on Jul 12th, 2010 at 2:34pm
Great cd, one of my favorite boots and the sound quality is excellent. It's worth it just to hear Mick sing "Let it Loose" live, although the song is incomplete.
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jul 12th, 2010 at 4:16pm left shoe shuffle wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 9:50am:
Jake Weber By Mail On Sunday Reporter Last updated at 11:29 PM on 10th July 2010 on May 23, Keith Hid Cocaine Under My Shirt, may have suggested Jake Weber was accusing Keith Richards of using him and his brother (then aged six and eight) to smuggle cocaine to the Rolling Stones’ French villa in 1971. In fact, Mr Weber made no such comment about Keith Richards. We are happy to clarify this. The Daily Mail Surely it was an attack of good conscience that led to this happy clarification... |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Gazza on Jul 20th, 2010 at 9:49am
Dominique Tarlé interviewed by our good friend Pauline (The Juf) in Amsterdam, 13th May 2010 for Cult TV, Amsterdam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_B7TvQzQCQ Many thanks, Pauline! |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Jul 20th, 2010 at 2:19pm Good stuff, Pauline! |
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Title: Re: 'Ladies & Gentlemen" Post by mojoman on Jul 21st, 2010 at 3:47pm
pre-order from amazon, regular and deluxe versions seem to be available!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Stones-Ladies-Gentlemen-Rolling-Stones/dp/B003W5C0VM/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_1 http://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Stones-Ladies-Gentlemen-Rolling-Stones/dp/B003W5C0VW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1279745234&sr=1-2 |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Aug 8th, 2010 at 2:19pm
I got my "Stones in Exile" Japanese Edition (Released on July 28) some days ago but it was until yesterday that I went to the PO for it!
WOW, more than 2 hours and a half in real high quality on both viedo and audio, great bonus features like Cocksucker Blues in the best quality I've seen, Exile Fans, extended interview, booklet, return to stargoves and olympic studio This is my copy: I got it at a cheap price with the bonus points I got from my Super-deluxe-plus edition of Exile |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 4:39pm Stones In Exile is being screened this week as part of the Vancouver International Film Festival: STONES IN EXILE LATE + LOUD (UK, 2010, 61 mins) DVD Directed By: Stephen Kijak Cast: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Mick Taylor, Bill Wyman, Bobby Keys, Marshall Chess, Anita Pallenberg 1971: the Rolling Stones go into voluntary exile to escape the British tax man. They head to the South of France, where Keith Richards rents a chateau and sets up an ad hoc recording studio in the basement. Mick Jagger gets married. Charlie Watts gets homesick. And while no one is looking (well, no one except photographer Dominique Tarle and filmmaker Robert Frank) they create maybe their greatest record, Exile On Main Street. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Aug 25th, 2010 at 6:09pm Bill Wyman on Making The Rolling Stones' Exile On Main St. By Elliot Stephen Cohen “That the album ever came out at all was a complete miracle,” marvels Bill Wyman of the 1972 landmark Rolling Stones album Exile On Main St. Though critics initially overlooked the band’s provocative blend of American roots music with Brit-style rock (“Everybody slagged it off,” Wyman bitterly recalls), the album has since gained recognition as one of the Stones’ most potent statements. This year, Universal has re-mastered the seminal double album, reissuing it with a blistering batch of bonus tracks. As Wyman intimates, making the album wasn’t easy. The band had fled England to escape the nation’s harsh tax laws (93 percent at the time), and its members were in deep financial trouble. As the album’s title suggests, the boys felt exiled from their homeland, and slithered off to the friendlier confines of southern France. It was there that they recorded the bulk of Exile in the sweltering basement of Keith Richards’s rented Côte d’Azur mansion in Villefranchesur- Mer, a previous Gestapo headquarters from World War II. With the assistance of producer Jimmy Miller and 21-year old engineer Andy Johns (whose resume already included three Led Zeppelin albums), the Stones created 18 tracks that perfectly assimilated their fascination with older American music styles—blues, rock, gospel and country—into what has since been hailed as the Rolling Stones ultimate masterpiece. While previous complaints about the original release stemmed largely from its awful sound quality and abysmal mix (rushed by Johns at Jagger’s insistence), the new release overseen by producer Don Was puts a new sheen on things, while retaining the spirit and grit of the original. Soul Survivor Born William George Perks in the Lewiston Kent section of London on October 26th, 1936, Bill Wyman had been a Rolling Stone for nearly a decade at the time of Exile’s initial release. Initially inspired by the acoustic walking-bass style of blues legend Willie Dixon, Wyman found equal merits in Donald “Duck” Dunn’s straightforward, uncluttered electric style with Booker T and The MGs. Prior to joining the Stones on December 7th, 1962, he had already designed his own fretless electric bass guitar [see sidebar, page 44]. At 26, married with a child, Wyman was seven years older than the still teenaged Jagger and Richards, whose more bohemian tastes ran quite differently. Recalls Wyman, “When I first joined the band, they asked me what kind of music I liked, and who my favorite artists were. When I kind of mentioned certain favorites of mine, they kind of went, “Ugh,” You know, it’s weird looking back now, but they originally hated bluesmen like John Lee Hooker and Lightnin’ Hopkins. They preferred the electric blues of Chicago. They also hated Eddie Cochran, but in the ’80s and ’90s I got them to doing ‘Twenty Flight Rock’ onstage. It was the same with Jerry Lee Lewis. They hated him when I first joined, but later Keith became a mad fan.” Throughout his thirty year tenure with the Stones, Wyman teamed with drummer Charlie Watts to form one of rock’s most solid rhythm sections, driving such Stones classics as “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction,” “19th Nervous Breakdown,” “Honky Tonk Woman,” “Brown Sugar,” “Start Me Up,”and “Miss You.” Additionally, Wyman maintains he created the iconic riff used for “Jumpin Jack Flash,” although Richards ended up playing it on the record. In 1974, Wyman became the first Stone to release a solo album, Monkey Grip. He also became the first one to score a hit single, when “(Si Si) Je Suies Un Rock Star,” became a surprise European hit seven years later. In December of 1992, exactly thirty years after joining, he surprised the music work by announcing his departure just when the Stones were about to sign a huge contract with Virgin Records. The band was undisputedly the world’s richest touring attraction. Although Wyman claims otherwise, it’s clear that the split was less than amicable. It was generally assumed that when Wyman, 56 at the time of his leaving, and just about to get remarried and begin a new family, wanted to forsake the hectic world of performing, in favor of the serenity accorded to a retired country millionaire gentleman. Yet 18 years later—the eclectic musician turns 75 next year—Wyman maintains a vigorous touring schedule with his band, the Rhythm Kings. True to his earliest musical inspirations, Wyman maintains the same enthusiasm for the roots American music that first caused him to pick up a guitar as a young kid. Were you asked to do any new overdubs on the newly remastered Exile, as Keith, Mick Jagger, and Mick Taylor did? No, and neither was Charlie—we didn’t have to. [Co-producer] Don Was was full of compliments about our playing in an article I recently read, which was very nice. One of the problems on the original album was that your bass was buried in the mix. Well, they’d always sink me way deep. There would always be separate mixes, and then they’d argue about which ones to use. I didn’t get involved, but yeah, I used to get fairly disappointed when you couldn’t bloody well hear my bass. But they wanted more of Keith’s guitar, or whatever. I suppose I just lived with it. I also didn’t always get the proper credits I deserved, either. When you read the back of the Exile album, it says someone else is playing bass on songs when it was actually me. Mick would always get the credits wrong, and it was too late to change them. So that was annoying, as well. Were the recording sessions as chaotic as the legends about them are? In the studio, we just worked weekdays, and we broke on Saturdays and Sundays. So, on the weekends, if Keith was alive, he would mess about with the guys that were staying in the area, like [saxophonist] Bobby Keyes, [trumpet player] Jimmy Price, and [producer] Jimmy Miller. [Engineer] Andy Johns was living there, so if they felt like going in to record, they could. Keith went in one weekend and did “Happy” with Jimmy playing drums, and it turned out quite nice, actually. It was quite a pleasant surprise coming in on Monday morning, and hearing it being played back. [Note: Miller had previously played drums on “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” and did the famous cowbell intro on “Honky Tonk Women.”] What was the studio setup like? The sessions there were a complete nightmare. The situation where we were recording was a joke, being down in some sort of cellar. Condensation poured down the walls, so you had to be stripped to the waist. The horns were in the kitchen up the corridor. There was no cameras or mics; no direct contact with the mobile studio outside. You had to go up the stairs to talk to anyone. My bass was under the stairs outside one bloody room or another. In what ways did the primitive recording conditions affect you? The unfortunate thing was that if I wasn’t there when something was being recorded somebody else played on the original track. So either Keith would lay down a bass with Charlie, or else Mick Taylor would. Of course, when I came back and the bass was already there, what was the point in me overdubbing if it worked well? If Keith or Mick or Mick Taylor weren’t there for something, they were always able to overdub their instruments later. That was the inconvenience of being part of the band’s rhythm section. If Charlie wasn’t there and Jimmy played drums, then Charlie could never be on that track, like the other guys could. What was a typical recording session like? It was really stupid, but even more stupid was that nobody ever turned up the same time. On a Monday, Mick Taylor, Charlie, and I might arrive. Keith would be upstairs sleeping, never appearing at the session. We’d all traveled from God knows where. Charlie was five hours away from where he stayed at my house. Piano player Nicky Hopkins often stayed by me, and when you’d get there, you’d find out that Mick Jagger had gone off partying with some local celebrities. So, we’d just mess about, and then the next time, Mick Taylor wouldn’t be there. It would just be me, Keith and Charlie, and Mick Jagger wouldn’t turn up again, because he’d gone to Paris or someplace to buy rings for his wedding [to Bianca Perez Morena de Macias]. Then the day after that, Mick would turn up with Charlie and me, but Keith wouldn’t be there, and neither would Mick Taylor. It was like that day after day. It was bollocks—it’s a miracle that record ever came out, because it was all done in bits. The whole band was hardly ever there at the same time. It was really madness. Being that Keith’s heroin consumption was quite heavy at the time, how on top of things was he? I shouldn’t be talking about this, but a typical example of things was that you’d break for the weekend. You’d finish the session at like ten in the morning, drive all the way back through the crowds, going to the beaches, get home about midday, have some lunch, go to bed, and then on Sunday there’s be a phone call saying, “Um, some people broke into Keith’s house when everyone was watching television and stole all the guitars and a saxophone. People just came in and cleaned out all the instruments. [Note: Reportedly, drug dealers to whom Keith owed money were responsible for the heist.] Absurd things like that were going on, and it was just a complete joke. But being that is was Keith’s house, he was quite happy to work at any odd hours he cared to. We were all obliged to being there when it suited him more than anybody else. You’ve stated in the past that one reason you stayed away from many of the Exile sessions—including those for “Tumbling Dice” and “Happy”—was the drug use, which you didn’t want to be around. I suppose. There were problems there that stayed with us right straight through the ’70s, and as I was not the least interested in taking drugs, but suffered the same consequences as the others—airport checks, etc.—and I wasn’t very happy about it. Everybody else got into problems. It was a real nightmare. During your time with the band, beside not being formally credited with coming up with perhaps the best Stones riff ever, for “Jumping Jack Flash,” there must have been many other instances where you weren’t officially credited, as a co-songwriter. There were lots, because all of the songs were created in the studio. You know, Keith would come in with a riff. That’s all, and over the course of a week we would come up with a song. Then Mick would write the lyrics, and it would come out on an album credited as “Jagger-Richards.” That would happen all the time. I did get a bit disheartened that they weren’t generous enough to share, like many other bands do. Like the way the Beatles gave room for Ringo Starr and George Harrison to do their thing, and how the Who gave John Entwhistle a chance to write stuff. Where other bands shared things, the Stones didn’t. We just had to live with it or leave. So I went on and did solo albums and movie music, and I produced other artists. I got satisfaction in that way. What do see as some of your most unheralded contributions to their music? I loved recording “Paint It, Black,” when I laid on the floor and pumped the organ pedal with my fist, because I can’t play with my feet. That rhythm kind of made the record, because it was lacking something before I suggested doing that. I suppose you could also say I created what was happening on “Miss You,” you know, the walking bass, that octave bass thing. After that, just about every band in the world took that idea at the time and used it in a song. Rod Stewart used it, and a lot of funky bands did, also. What was your most memorable moment with The Stones? The best one for me was the Hyde Park concert in 1969, on the 5th of July, two days after Brian Jones died. I loved playing live— that was kind of magical. Which was the band’s best tour? They were all great. They all kept getting better. I mean, the ’69 tour was fantastic until Altamont. [Note: that concert was marred by a fan fatality.] We had a fantastic tour with Chuck Berry, Terry Reid, Ikeand Tina Turner, and B.B. King—I loved that tour. Japan in 1990 was also fantastic, when we did ten shows in a row, between 45,000 and 52,000 for each show. No one ever did something like that. Did you feel when you left the band two years later; that its best music was in the past? I think the best music was done between ’68 and ’72. Never mind about when I left in ’92. When was the last time you saw the Stones in concert? It was at London’s O2 Arena in 2007 or 2008. I don’t hear the Stones the same way now as when I was in the band, because in those days, it was all sort of dangerous and loose. Now, it’s like a machine. It’s like they’re playing to click tracks, which we never did. The music has become more machine-like than I would like, and that’s not the way it was when I was with them. Considering even just all of the millions you could have earned with them over the past 18 years, do you have any regrets over leaving “The World’s Greatest Rock and Roll Band?” Are you serious? [Laughs.] Not one iota—I never have. I enjoyed my time there, and I’m still mates with everyone. Except for Charlie, they didn’t understand my leaving at the beginning. So there were bad vibes and nasty comments going out in the press. But then they were all right with my decision. I got married, and they understood what was happening with me. We still send each other birthday and Christmas presents. We’re still family, but I don’t want to see them every day of the week—once in a while is okay. Will we ever see Bill Wyman grace the stage with The Rolling Stones again? If they did one big final live performance that was broadcast all over the world—and they asked me to do it—I probably would do it for the fans. But at the moment, it doesn’t interest me. I’ve had my time. Bass Player Great stuff! The door's open for "The Last Time"... 8-) |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by Heart Of Stone on Aug 25th, 2010 at 7:52pm
Great Interview-"the music has become more machine like I would like" explains a lot.
I don't think Jagger or Richards ever appreciated Bill's great Bass playing. |
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Title: Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 24th, 2010 at 2:55pm Music, Words and Pictures: "Exiles" in Paris -- Whole Lotta Rolling Stones Ethan Russell Author and multi-Grammy nominated photographer and director. Posted: September 24, 2010 At the tail end of their 1969 U.S. tour, Mick Jagger, 26, says to Stanley Booth: "Got to think about the future because obviously I can't do this forever. I mean we're so old." It didn't quite work out that way, as now we know. Around the next corner for Mick and the Stones -- only days away -- is the infamous concert at Altamont, and then -- pausing for a brief good-bye tour of England -- they exit to the South of France, and the beginning of their tax-exile status. In the ongoing narrative, Mick gets married to Bianca, and Keith sets up shop in the Villa Nellcote where the drug taking escalates to prodigious proportions. Nevertheless they produce Exile on Main Street, which every review you will now read calls "one of their classics." Photograph © Dominique Tarle. All rights reserved. Dominique Tarle is the photographer who shows up at Nellcote for one day and then, as he announces he must get back to Paris, is told to stick around, his room is ready. He stays for months, an experience I could relate to. Photograph © Dominique Tarle. All rights reserved. Dominique was passionate about taking pictures of musicians, had gone to London to do just that in 1968. But it was his presence at Nellcote that would produce some of the most extraordinary photographs of the Rolling Stones ever taken. His pictures are a visual feast. If they were a meal you might feel like you stumbled into the world's best, most exotic, restaurant. Dominique shoots in the opulence of the South of France, in a villa (Nellcote) commandeered by the Nazis in the Second World War. Now it is inhabited by Rock's Renegades. (In this juxtaposed fantasia one wonders how the Rolling Stones' existence might have fit in with Hitler's Master Race? It's nice to think he would have expired of apoplexy.) The overwhelming presence in Dominiques' photographs is Keith Richards, who manages to demand focus without apparently asking for it. Photograph © Dominique Tarle. All rights reserved. As for the Rolling Stones, they might have wondered (with Jim Morrison) how they were going to get out alive. But they did escape, bringing into this world more remarkable music. At the end, grabbing a box of tapes, they fly to Los Angeles to master the album and begin preparations for the 1972 U.S tour. I would join them there. It is this piece of rock history and experience that is captured in the current show "Soul Survivors" at La Galerie de L'Instant in Paris. The idea for this show -- to combine Dominique's extraordinary images of the making of Exile with my photography from the 1972 tour -- came from Julia Gragnon, the gallery's energetic and passionate owner. and the daughter of Paris Match photographer Francois Gragnon. I flew to Paris for the opening and, while in France, went with Dominique and Julia to Cannes for the screening of Stones in Exile the documentary the Rolling Stones made of the very same period (and which relies on, among other things, both Dominique's and my photos). Photograph © Dominique Tarle. All rights reserved. The film was enlightening for me. I left the Rolling Stones behind after Altamont and joined them again in 1972. I was aware of their intervening time in France but had little detail. Now years later it was revealed in continuity, and, in the case of the documentary, with interviews with Mick, Keith and Charlie (and Dominique). For me (who knew the Rolling Stones well in England and was an ex-English resident myself) the film brought into sharp relief the wrenching experience that the move to France thrust upon them. The English and the French can be oil and water. I once stood on a hillside in the Dordogne overlooking a small valley. Not a mile across from where I was standing I could see on one side the English castle and on the other the French. Here the French and the English fought each other for One Hundred Years. In the film you see the culture shock in wonderfully small details. As most of us are aware the English palette can be, well, insular, but Charlie Watts' request for Marmite (a yeast extract the English put on toast) to be shipped to the South of France I found surprisingly poignant. It is, as we all know, the little things. Photograph © Dominique Tarle. All rights reserved. I believe this experience forced the Rolling Stones to become international players. If you can't go home again, you better learn how to live off the land. The film -- without harping on it -- made me acutely aware, in a way that I had not been, the challenge that the Rolling Stones surmounted. As Mick says in the film "We had no money. None." The Rolling Stones could so easily NOT have made it. Since they were teens they had been careening around the world at a breakneck pace, been confronted by a hostile establishment in England intent on making an example of them. One of them had died. And an American manager had locked up all their money. With all of it, they were just English lads. How could they not be? Over and over again in their career, a much more likely outcome would have been that the Rolling Stones would fail, and it would be brutal. Here's a title for them: True Grit. Outta the way, John. Photograph © Ethan Russell. All rights reserved. At the Galerie you can see this. Dominique and I share something. (I have talked with him about this, and I think his intentions were more conscious. Maybe it is just the French are more articulate.) What we both did was take pictures that showed it like it was. To this day -- especially this day -- I get irritated with photographs that scream (the photographer's head peaking out from behind) "Look At Me! Look at Me!" The value I believe that both Dominque and I were lucky enough to deliver is the experience of letting the viewer be there. Photograph © Ethan Russell. All rights reserved. The exhibition brings our photographs together in a narrative that neither Dominique nor I could tell by ourselves. In Dominique's case it is told through the image of Keith lounging in the echoing rooms of Nellcote. Of Bobby Keys and Jim Price in the basement rooms. Drug Times, Good Times, Exhaustion and Smiling in the Sun. And then, in an image of mine, Keith Richards sits shuttered, behind sunglasses, in the back of a limo (it almost looks armored) with the Stones' first airplane behind him, emblazoned with a their new logo, the lapping tongue. Photograph © Ethan Russell. All rights reserved. And finally shots of them backstage and onstage: Mick howling, Keith pumping, lights arcing behind them, bringing it to the folks. Photographs © Ethan Russell. All rights reserved. The viewer is able to be with them from the intimacy of the creative to the launch on the road. This experience, this template, is something the Rolling Stones have done their entire careers. Amid the chaos, it is the architecture within which they live their lives. "Soul Survivors" is a remarkable look at one slice of that. Catch it if you can. In Paris. Closes October 20, 2010. Dominique Tarle and Ethan Russell - Paris, 2010. La Galerie de L'Instant 46, rue de Poitou Paris 75003 FRANCE 01 44 54 94 09 web: www.lagaleriedelinstant.com ------------ There is a lot that has recently surfaced from that time, all of it good and interesting. In addition to the Stones documentary Stones in Exile, there is the remastered album, in the Deluxe package a very nicely produced book with Dominique's and my photography. In the theaters recently and about to be released in DVD LADIES AND GENTLMEN Eagle Rock's release of the Stones 1972 concert film. You can see more Ethan Russell Photographs here. The Huffington Post Nice read. And of course, iconic photos... |
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