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Reply #250 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:16am
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You mean something like "Autotune" ? I don't think Mick needs that !

Some Guy wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:25am:
I swung by Barnes and Nobles today and perused the new Rolling Stone- they give a little description of some of the tunes- can someone post it?


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AngieBlue wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:37am:
The article implies that Don Was is going to sort through it all.  He says there is tons of stuff.  It took a year to do Exile alone.  The entire mess could take several.  I was glad to read they are looking for the tracks the bootleggers don't have.  This could be very interesting - not just the Exile re-issue.

I'm hoping listening to the unfinished tracks from time gone by gives Mick and Keith the itch.  Either finishing the thoughts on tape or using the old tapes as guides to new tracks.




All the more reason to appoint a band archivist or a team of people to take care of it. Its unreasonable to expect Don Was to do this on a regular basis - he has a career outside of working with the Stones - and naturally its unfeasible for the band to do it themselves, as they all have other things to do (stop sniggering!).

Bob Dylan does this. I would hazard a guess that his input into his 'Bootleg Series' is minimal and at the very most involves nothing more than giving a final nod of approval or otherwise. Jeff Rosen has done a great job in overseeing Bob's archives and the shot in the arm it has given his career in the last two decades despite starting a time when his stock was at its lowest ever ebb has been massive. Grateful Dead fans have been spoiled rotten with the 'Dick's Picks' series, even though the guy who originally selected the recordings for the band's approval died in 1999. I think to date there have been 36 'Dick's Picks' releases between 1993 and 2005, a dozen digital 'Download series' of shows released between 2005 and 2006 - and then the 'Road Trips' series of multiple shows from one tour, which has already seen 10 releases since late 2007.

Consider how little input the Stones must have made into some of their recent releases and doing something like this would hardly take up too much of their time - ie, releasing 'Live Licks, an album that none of them could surely have heard before it was in the shops (otherwise theyd have noticed the horrible editing), sanctioning the release of 'Rarities' (with a track listing which featured a collection of songs, half of which werent even rarities at all, but which featured on still-available albums which had sold milions of copies and which featured sleevenotes which appeared to have been researched by a chimp) and 'Biggest Bang' (a live DVD which included overdubs by two guitar technicians)

Bob, Neil and Bruce have all managed to juggle archives projects with a career in which they still make acclaimed new records and tour regularly - so the notion that the Stones can't or won't do it while still a working band due to some kind of obsession with not wanting their current work to be compared to what they did years ago doesn't really make sense to me.


I can understand the logic of not wanting to spend weeks or months wading through old tapes (although each to their own - it'd be a musical wet dream for me), but it should be easy enough to get a few people capable of doing most of the heavy lifting for them. Hopefully it wont be the 'expert' entrusted with sending Mick a compilation of circulating 'Exile' outtakes to enable him to research the upcoming CD but who somehow managed to provide him with a shitload of bootlegs from the late 70's instead.
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Reply #252 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:30am
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I think us "experts" of unreleased tracks should send in our résumé Wink

"a live DVD which included overdubs by two guitar technicians" - wasn't aware of that, Pierre de Beauport ?
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Reply #253 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:56am
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Yes. Pierre is credited on the sleeve of 'Biggest Bang' for 'additional recordings' as is another guitar tech whose name escapes me for the moment as I dont have the DVD handy.

There are some overdubs on the live shows, most notably (and blatantly) on  Austin.
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Reply #254 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:58am
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 7:13am:
'Believe' was rumored to be considered for the bonus disc, but those plans were quickly scrapped.

Didn't have that scuzzy 'Exile' feel...


No that Cher song had its own distinct brand of scuzzzzzzz
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Super Deluxe Edition of 'Exile' is now listed at amazon.com for $179.99...  

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Reply #256 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:42am
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Super Deluxe Edition of 'Exile' is now listed at amazon.com for $179.99...  



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Reply #257 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:51am
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Reply #258 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 9:29am
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Some Guy wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:25am:
I swung by Barnes and Nobles today and perused the new Rolling Stone- they give a little description of some of the tunes- can someone post it?


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"Good Time Women": Originally cut during 1970s' Sticky Fingers sessions, this song sounds nearly identical to "Tumbling Dice," though it has completely different lyrics. You can hear a low-quality version on YouTube.

"Pass the Wine": This horn-fueled soul cut had long been known to fans by its working title, "Sophia Loren." "This is a big one for the bootleg guys," says Don Was. "They all know the title, but nobody has ever actually heard the song before."

"Aladdin's Story": An instrumental of this heavy, slow-rolling track has been bootlegged, but the Exile box has a finished version. "When we heard these songs, they sounded like ... Exile," says Keith Richards. "They had that great basement sound."

"Soul Survivor": This alternate version of Exile's last song features Richards on vocals and completely different lyrics. "Keith sang a guide vocal as he was playing guitar, and he was just improvising," says Was. "No one's ever heard it. It's really cool."
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Reply #259 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 10:04am
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Reply #260 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:19pm
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Super Deluxe Edition of 'Exile' is now listed at amazon.com for $179.99...  



I hope that's an error, or else what a rip off, the gouge is on
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Reply #261 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:32pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 9:29am:
Some Guy wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 10:25am:
I swung by Barnes and Nobles today and perused the new Rolling Stone- they give a little description of some of the tunes- can someone post it?


Ask and you shall receive:

"Good Time Women": Originally cut during 1970s' Sticky Fingers sessions, this song sounds nearly identical to "Tumbling Dice," though it has completely different lyrics. You can hear a low-quality version on YouTube.

"Pass the Wine": This horn-fueled soul cut had long been known to fans by its working title, "Sophia Loren." "This is a big one for the bootleg guys," says Don Was. "They all know the title, but nobody has ever actually heard the song before."

"Aladdin's Story": An instrumental of this heavy, slow-rolling track has been bootlegged, but the Exile box has a finished version. "When we heard these songs, they sounded like ... Exile," says Keith Richards. "They had that great basement sound."

"Soul Survivor": This alternate version of Exile's last song features Richards on vocals and completely different lyrics. "Keith sang a guide vocal as he was playing guitar, and he was just improvising," says Was. "No one's ever heard it. It's really cool."

thanks!! Doesn't it say in the first paragaph or so about Following the River being a gospel tinged song?
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Reply #262 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm
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If the price is set at $180 they will be tarping off most sales bins as even the most ardent fan will think twice. Joe Average will pass for sure. i'll wait for Pirate Bay thank you.
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gimmekeef wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
If the price is set at $180 they will be tarping off most sales bins as even the most ardent fan will think twice. Joe Average will pass for sure. i'll wait for Pirate Bay thank you.



tarping the bins... haha!
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Reply #264 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:48pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:42am:
left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Super Deluxe Edition of 'Exile' is now listed at amazon.com for $179.99...  



Ouch.


what he said

while their attitude towards their archives seems to have shifted a little their  pricing policies remain intact
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Reply #265 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:49pm
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Not to be debbie downer but personally I just don't think the Stones "get it" as far as the CD age goes and how to properly do box sets, retrospectives, bonus tracks, extra material ect...

This entire Exile deluxe edition is looking to be a sham and a total rip-off to their fans, especially when comparing it to the contents of other artist's deluxe box sets. They're asking us to pony up somewhere between $120 to $180 for 2 cd's (of which the main interest is on 4 unheard songs), 1  thirty min "making of" DVD (why just clips, why couldn't they included CS Blues and L&G in there entirety too?), the LP version (cute idea, but I don't own a record player so its basically worthless filler and should be sold separately for the vinyl fanatics) and a 50 page booklet (at the new $180 asking price why stop there ho ho, why not just raise it up few hundred more and include copies of Dominique Tarle's book Smiley






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Some Guy wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:32pm:
Doesn't it say in the first paragaph or so about Following the River being a gospel tinged song?


It does.

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Reply #267 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:56pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
If the price is set at $180 they will be tarping off most sales bins as even the most ardent fan will think twice. Joe Average will pass for sure. i'll wait for Pirate Bay thank you.



tarping the bins... haha!


You'd better NOT be dissing our God-given Free Market System!

Seriously, though...what greed mongers!  I had just about talked myself into paying $100 - but $180???? JESUS!


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Reply #268 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:57pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
If the price is set at $180 they will be tarping off most sales bins as even the most ardent fan will think twice. Joe Average will pass for sure. i'll wait for Pirate Bay thank you.

If this does'nt sell well. Jagger will have the vaults permanently sealed.
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Jesus Christ wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:56pm:
I had just about talked myself into paying $100 - but $180????


What, no freebie for you JC?

They've name checked you enough.
That oughta count for something...


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Reply #270 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 4:11pm
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It's too god damned expensive for that deluxe set. All I want is a vinyl with the new songs. I could care less what they do with the remaster of Exile. I'm fine with my 1994 remaster, even though the few 2009 remasters I own sound fantastic.

The fact that Mick and Keith couldn't tell the difference between a 1997 recording of BB King and Exile outtakes is disturbing. Was Mick on his cell phone? Was Keith putting a toner in his fax machine? Did they do any critical listening? How can Keith talk all this shit about the fucking soil in France and how it impacts audio quality and mood and misidentify something as unique as BB's tone?

Shit, I'm no pro, but if there are two guys in the world that should be able to tell the difference, look no further than the leaders of the Rolling Stones. It doesn't make sense to me. I bet you I could hear the difference between Mick Taylor circa early 70's and BB from 1997.
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Reply #271 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 4:57pm
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That price hike sounds like a mistake to me...makes no sense that it was $100 and now $180 all of a sudden.

$180 is way more expensive than the UK price (£100 = $151) - and CDs in the UK are always at least 30-40% at least more expensive than they are in the US.

If it stays at $180 they'll sell about ten copies. Maybe this is Mick's twisted way of ensuring the sales are so bad that he wont have to bother with this again.


Anyway, havent seen this quote before - its on the Stones' facebook page :


Mick Jagger – on the ‘new’ songs… “I knew there was loads of stuff lying around, but I wanted to be faithful to the time period, I didn’t want to take things out of context...there’s a couple that are really quite good and would compete with anything on ‘Exile,’ I think. Some of them I think are of interest, and fun, but some of them are really good, so I hope people like them"
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$119.99 on BestBuy.com.  Don't think there'll be much of a rush to amazon, myself.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=D4F7542498D75F002AE8843F214C7...
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Reply #273 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:18pm
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Oh, I am so annoyed with this price! It's ridiculous, I cant afford it, and I want it bad. I'll get someone to burn me a copy! I know, doing it illegally shouldnt happen, right? yeah right! Thats exactly what's going to happen! At a reasonable price people buy it, but at this price, people steal it. Just saying it like it is. Money hungry fvcks! The price should be much lower! IMO.
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Reply #274 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 5:22pm
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Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:19pm:
left shoe shuffle wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 8:04am:
Super Deluxe Edition of 'Exile' is now listed at amazon.com for $179.99...  



I hope that's an error, or else what a rip off, the gouge is on




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