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Reply #1777 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 2:12pm

Gazza wrote on Jun 7^th, 2010 at 2:51pm:

Thing is though almost 40 years have passed. Back then, the likes of Jimmy Miller were seen as the experienced professionals with the Stones being kids who were still a bit wet behind the ears in terms of knowing how to make records.

Fast forward to 2010 and the Stones have a lot more authority, pulling power, status - whatever. In rock n roll terms, they're pretty much deities and that must be pretty intimidating for any outsider coming in to work with them. Had the likes of Jimmy Miller been around today and working with them for the first time while still in his late 20's, he might have found himself in the same daunting position.

Rubin was the one producer who worked with them (or one of them) in recent years who wasnt put off by their reputation and who stood up for himself.

It didn't go down well, even though it produced pretty good results, and the experience was never repeated. Its very unlikely it ever will be, either.

Given the Stones legacy if I was Mick and Keith I'd pretty much want my ass kissed too.

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Reply #1778 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 9:33pm

Some Guy wrote on Jun 8^th, 2010 at 10:32pm:

The Wick wrote on Jun 8^th, 2010 at 7:31pm:

texile wrote on Jun 7^th, 2010 at 6:14pm:

But it's got something more important to me: that beautiful minor chord riff and the way they accent it; great lyrics and a great vocal performance from Jagger. Jagger has written alot of trite bullshit lyrics that were meant to be touching in the last 20-odd years (Streets of Love etc)but they rarely work because he sounds like he's trying too hard. This song is what happens when he really means it. It sounds effortless, it has depth, like had to get something off his chest. The fact that he brought in Mick Taylor says alot. Retrospection, instrospection works for Jagger. I know Keith says he was all retroed out, but if they're not getting their rocks off now, then I'm fine with the retro.

Beautifully put. You put my thoughts into words. The lyrics are really outstanding. The opening line is so strong and it maintains throughout the song and I never thought Mick Taylor could just drop in and play like that again. It is really an unbelievable track.

[It may be their best song ever...

I'll say its the best since Beast of Burden. It's got so much soul and sadness and Jagger drops that pathetic, strangled-cat whine he's been using for the the last 20+ years....I find myself singing along to it in my car without cringing at the lyrics or phony sentiments and vocal posterings of latter-day Jagger. It sounds like the guy who made Some Girls and Exile and that guy has been missing for a long fucking time. He sounds like a man who finally realizes he fucked up something that meant something and still feels the sting...and no, I don't mean Jerry Hall. This song has a sense of wistful meloncholy and bittersweet resolution that only comes a long time after the fact - Jagger was looking way back for this and dug something out..
Marianne? Bianca?
I suspect the latter given the time frame but it doesn't really matter...Most of us are old enough to relate to regret and that's what makes it powerful personally.
It soars..like the best Stones always does...[i]that beautiful minor 7 and the way Charlie crashes on it..it sounds like heartbreak...
This thread is dying a slow death and I'm going to miss it.

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Reply #1779 - Jun 10^th, 2010 at 2:41pm

'Stones In Exile' is released in the UK and the rest of the world next Tuesday, 6/15.
North American release is 6/22.

There has been, over the years, a veritable mountain of debate, conjecture, written words and mythologizing about this most classic album. It has been the subject of books, of rumors, of innuendo, of stories that have only added to the Stones’ legend. Now, for the first time, one can step back in time to the spring of 1971 and enter the villa called Nellcote at Villefranche-sur-Mer in the South of France where Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor created and recorded this most classic of albums in the most chaotic of circumstances.

The footage is extraordinary. It includes interviews with all five Stones as well as sections of the long-dormant notorious Cocksucker Blues movie, which every Rolling Stones fan has talked about, wondered about, but few have actually seen. Other key cinematic moments have Mick and Charlie returning to Olympic Studios where some of the early Exile work was laid down, as well as Mick’s country estate, Stargroves.

There’s also a star-studded list of contributors to this film who share their most intimate remembrances: Martin Scorsese, Anita Pallenberg, producer Jimmy Miller, engineer Andy Johns, photographer Dominique Tarlé, legendary sax man Bobby Keys and many others.

DVD features over an hour of additional bonus footage not included in the TV broadcast version.

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'Ladies And Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones' is coming Autumn 2010.

I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more 'Exile'!

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Reply #1780 - Jun 10^th, 2010 at 2:58pm

Plundered My Soul is very hard for me to listen to right now. My girl and I split up and every fucking word relates to me. It's the greatest song I've ever heard....and the hardest to listen to.

Mick is writing from a real place. Not as some rock star, but as a real man going through some terrible shit with his gal.

Thanks Mick for making artwork. Artwork that relates to me.

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texile Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 935	Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Reply #1781 - Jun 10^th, 2010 at 3:01pm Cool.... Now is this different than the one broadcast on the BBC? I keep reading reviews from people who saw that version and its like..'ehh, disappointed....' But the critics reviewing the version shown in Cannes are saying its great, cinematic etc... Either way, this preview sounds orgasmic.
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left shoe shuffle Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 4,141	Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Reply #1782 - Jun 10^th, 2010 at 3:08pm 'Stones In Exile' is 61 minutes long. Dunno if the BBC aired the complete film. The version shown on "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" was much shorter. I liked it. And as mentioned in the press release, the DVD will include considerable bonus footage. Worth the 15 bucks, imo...
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Reply #1783 - Jun 12^th, 2010 at 8:06am

Stones planned escape route to evade police capture in France

June 11, 2010

The Rolling Stones were so paranoid about getting busted by police during their sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll adventure at Keith Richards' French retreat in 1971, they devised an escape plan devised to help the band and their families make a quick getaway.

The rockers set up home in the South of France to record classic album Exile on Main Street, and Richards' Nellcote chateau, where the guitarist created a recording studio, became a hangout for drug dealers and dodgy characters.

And the rocker's then-girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg, reveals Richards and his bandmates were so worried about their country home studio being raided by the police, they came up with a clever plan to make a hasty escape and leave hangers-on and groupies to face the law.

In new documentary Stones in Exile, she says, "We had this escape route that we planned... You could jump out the window, where I was sleeping and then jump on the bus (outside) and get out really quickly.

"Otherwise it was all these corridors and staircases. We had it all pretty sussed."

Pallenberg admits she was more familiar with the escape plan than most - because she was always using it to escape the creeps who took over Nellcote.
She adds, "It was like a freeloading place. I got more and more bored with all these people and became a bouncer. I remember standing on top of the stairs and just throwing stuff and emptying a room out that somebody slept in. I'd just throw these clothes down and everybody was like, 'She's a monster!'

"For a period I lived in a room just above the bus that was also part of our escape."

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texile Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 935	Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Reply #1785 - Jun 16^th, 2010 at 12:59pm I was wondering the same thing. I don't even know how they measure a success anymore.... You used to be able to get an idea from airplay - whether it was MTV or the radio, but I don't know anymore.
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Reply #1786 - Jun 16^th, 2010 at 2:55pm

texile wrote on Jun 9^th, 2010 at 9:33pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 8^th, 2010 at 10:32pm:

The Wick wrote on Jun 8^th, 2010 at 7:31pm:

texile wrote on Jun 7^th, 2010 at 6:14pm:

But it's got something more important to me: that beautiful minor chord riff and the way they accent it; great lyrics and a great vocal performance from Jagger. Jagger has written alot of trite bullshit lyrics that were meant to be touching in the last 20-odd years (Streets of Love etc)but they rarely work because he sounds like he's trying too hard. This song is what happens when he really means it. It sounds effortless, it has depth, like had to get something off his chest. The fact that he brought in Mick Taylor says alot. Retrospection, instrospection works for Jagger. I know Keith says he was all retroed out, but if they're not getting their rocks off now, then I'm fine with the retro.

Beautifully put. You put my thoughts into words. The lyrics are really outstanding. The opening line is so strong and it maintains throughout the song and I never thought Mick Taylor could just drop in and play like that again. It is really an unbelievable track.

[It may be their best song ever...

I'll say its the best since Beast of Burden. It's got so much soul and sadness and Jagger drops that pathetic, strangled-cat whine he's been using for the the last 20+ years....I find myself singing along to it in my car without cringing at the lyrics or phony sentiments and vocal posterings of latter-day Jagger. It sounds like the guy who made Some Girls and Exile and that guy has been missing for a long fucking time. He sounds like a man who finally realizes he fucked up something that meant something and still feels the sting...and no, I don't mean Jerry Hall. This song has a sense of wistful meloncholy and bittersweet resolution that only comes a long time after the fact - Jagger was looking way back for this and dug something out..
Marianne? Bianca?
I suspect the latter given the time frame but it doesn't really matter...Most of us are old enough to relate to regret and that's what makes it powerful personally.
It soars..like the best Stones always does...[i]that beautiful minor 7 and the way Charlie crashes on it..it sounds like heartbreak...
This thread is dying a slow death and I'm going to miss it.

...could be inspired by some errant groupie

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texile Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 935	Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Reply #1787 - Jun 16^th, 2010 at 4:26pm It's Cynthia Sagittarius! Or maybe Angie Bowie...
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Reply #1789 - Jun 18^th, 2010 at 6:57am

Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 10^th, 2010 at 2:58pm:

Plundered My Soul is very hard for me to listen to right now. My girl and I split up and every fucking word relates to me. It's the greatest song I've ever heard....and the hardest to listen to.

Mick is writing from a real place. Not as some rock star, but as a real man going through some terrible shit with his gal.

Thanks Mick for making artwork. Artwork that relates to me.

Yeah, songs have a way of touching our hearts and giving us something to hold onto, somehow it comforts us knowing we are not the only ones going through personal pain and suffering. Hang in there Steel Wheels! Look on the bright side ~ there's plenty of fish in the sea. Go and check out someone new, that's the only way to get over it. It's summertime, so have some fun, Dont let the world pass you by that's one of my favorite MICK lyrics.

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Reply #1791 - Jun 18^th, 2010 at 2:44pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 10^th, 2010 at 2:58pm:

Plundered My Soul is very hard for me to listen to right now. My girl and I split up and every fucking word relates to me. It's the greatest song I've ever heard....and the hardest to listen to.

Mick is writing from a real place. Not as some rock star, but as a real man going through some terrible shit with his gal.

Thanks Mick for making artwork. Artwork that relates to me.

And if its any consolation, in the last verse, Mick sings:
'Upon quiet reflection, my sad rejection is not a total digrace,'
To me, its like he's saying that after the heartbreak, life went on.
'But I do miss ....'
Even though you will always miss the thing you lost, the person, other things come into your life. Your heart doesn't forget, but it does live on, like Celine Dion says...ha!
And as Bitch said, that's the great thing about art, music, at its best, it speaks to you.

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Reply #1792 - Jun 19^th, 2010 at 8:19am

DVD Review: Stones in Exile

Author: El Bicho — Published: Jun 18, 2010

In conjunction with the release of the 2010 expanded edition of their classic album Exile on Main St., this hour-long documentary presents the chapter of the Rolling Stones' history when the album was created.

Bookended by reactions from modern musicians (Will.I.Am, Jack White, Sheryl Crow, and Caleb Followill) as well as associates they have worked with (Don Was and Martin Scorsese), this part of the Stones' story is told through archival footage and present-day interviews by band members, including Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor who were there at the time, and others involved in the album's creation like producer Jimmy Miller and engineer Andy Johns.

The first 20 minutes explains how the band found themselves in southern France. They left England due to the country's exorbitant tax rate. Keith Richards, along with his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg (who is also interviewed), rented a villa near Nice. Mick Jagger married Bianca Jagger. The remaining 40 minutes covers the recording of the album and other occurrences during that time.

Though all the information may not be new, Stones fans should be happy listening to the band reflecting back nearly 40 years on Exile's creation. There's footage of Charlie Watts and Mick Jagger revisiting Olympic Studios, which Mick amusingly points out he wasn't going to do when this film was being planned. It also great to hear audio between takes as they work things out.

To augment the visuals, clips are taken from two films shot during the Stones' American tour in support of Exile, the infamous Cocksucker Blues and Ladies and Gentlemen… The Rolling Stones, the latter of which is getting restored for a release on Blu-ray later this year. Sometimes the video doesn't appear to match the story as it looks like footage from Gimme Shelter of the band playing New York appears as they talk about their farewell tour of England before heading off into exile.

The DVD is augmented by a good amount of bonus features that are worth watching.

"Extended Interviews" (33 min) present Richards, Wyman, Taylor, Pallenberg, and Watts further elaborating. Current Stone Ronnie Wood offers his thoughts on meeting the band and the album.

"Return to Stargroves and Olympic Studios" (9 min) finds Jagger and Watts reminiscing about what took place at those locations in relation to Exile.

"Exile Fans" (40 mins) presents longer bits of the celebrity interviews that bookend the film and could have been a special all on its own. They are insightful as they discuss the effects the album had on each of them.

Stones in Exile does a very good job providing the history of the band and the album, but it's directed at people who are already fans. If you don't know the Exile on Main St. album, start there.

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Reply #1794 - Jun 19^th, 2010 at 12:39pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 19^th, 2010 at 8:19am:

DVD Review: Stones in Exile

Author: El Bicho — Published: Jun 18, 2010

In conjunction with the release of the 2010 expanded edition of their classic album Exile on Main St., this hour-long documentary presents the chapter of the Rolling Stones' history when the album was created.

Bookended by reactions from modern musicians (Will.I.Am, Jack White, Sheryl Crow, and Caleb Followill)

The weakest part of modern music documentaries is the inclusion of the VH1-ish, commentary by modern, hipsters who have absolutely, zero relevance to the subject matter at hand. Jack White is fine, he's rock n roll, but dolts from the black eyed peas and kings of leon included in a discussion about Exile?? Come'on! I bet Caleb Followill only knows who the Stones are because he's seen their t-shirts at Hot Topic. And I hate to burst Sheryl's bubble, but even if she'd showed up to Nellcote with a pound of cocaine up her crotch she still wouldn't have been cool enough to get in

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Reply #1796 - Jun 21^st, 2010 at 2:16pm

Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jun 19^th, 2010 at 12:39pm:

left shoe shuffle wrote on Jun 19^th, 2010 at 8:19am:

DVD Review: Stones in Exile

Author: El Bicho — Published: Jun 18, 2010

In conjunction with the release of the 2010 expanded edition of their classic album Exile on Main St., this hour-long documentary presents the chapter of the Rolling Stones' history when the album was created.

Bookended by reactions from modern musicians (Will.I.Am, Jack White, Sheryl Crow, and Caleb Followill)

The weakest part of modern music documentaries is the inclusion of the VH1-ish, commentary by modern, hipsters who have absolutely, zero relevance to the subject matter at hand. Jack White is fine, he's rock n roll, but dolts from the black eyed peas and kings of leon included in a discussion about Exile?? Come'on! I bet Caleb Followill only knows who the Stones are because he's seen their t-shirts at Hot Topic. And I hate to burst Sheryl's bubble, but even if she'd showed up to Nellcote with a pound of cocaine up her crotch she still wouldn't have been cool enough to get in

the talking heads will be a distraction. IN an article with the director, he admitted that that aspect was a concession with studio heads or whoever is releasing or promoting it, but i would think Mick and Keith would have the utlimate power....
I love Benicio D. and I don't mind the PEP or KOL, but their input they're not relevant. That time could have been given to MT, or maybe a mention of Billy Preston, Nicky Hopkins etc.....
These docs always have the requisite hipsters of the time, and the problem is is this is the definitive documentation of Exile, they will forever be that distraction to the glory of this piece.
It's like when you watch a music documentary from the 80s and you see Howard Jones and think,
'wow, what happen to him and why is he talking...'
I'm surprised they drag Bono into this. He's waved his divine wand over docs about Motown, Stax, the Blues, Sinatra.......

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left shoe shuffle Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 4,141	Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Reply #1797 - Jun 21^st, 2010 at 2:41pm As the reviewer notes, those interviews bookend the film. The "distraction" is marginal at best.
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,022 Atlanta Gender:	Re: 'Exile On Main St.' Reissue News Reply #1798 - Jun 21^st, 2010 at 5:17pm when does the dvd drop?
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