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Reply #1575 - May 20th, 2010 at 9:37am
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Rolling Stones set to top British album charts for first time in 16 years

Re-release of 1972 classic Exile on Main Street wows fans all over again
Alexandra Topping guardian.co.uk
Wednesday 19 May 2010 21.00 BST Article history
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/may/19/rolling-stones-exile-on-main-street

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Mick Jagger attends a photocall for the documentary Stones in Exile at the Cannes film festival today. Photograph: Guillaume Horcajuelo/EPA

You can't always get what you want, but if you wait 16 years, you just might get what you need…

The Rolling Stones may find themselves back at the top of the album charts this weekend, bringing them their first number one album since 1994.

The rereleased Exile on Main Street – which contains remixed tracks such as Rocks Off and Tumbling Dice – topped the midweek charts today.

Martin Talbot, managing director of the Official Charts Company, said the Stones faced stiff competition from Faithless, whose album the Dance was only 1,000 copies behind, and might yet pip them to the post. But the reissue, which includes a mixture of unreleased outtakes and incomplete tracks, was proving attractive to Stones fans of a certain age, he said.

"The Stones may not be at their creative peak any more, but this album is a reminder why they are legendary," he said. "It underlines everything that has made them a force to be reckoned with 40 years after they formed."

The recording of Exile on Main Street is the stuff of rock'n'roll legend. Recorded in the early 1970s at the notorious Nellcôte, Keith Richards's luxury rented villa in the south of France, the album first went to number one in 1972.

Hearing the testimonies of Mick Jagger, Richards, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts and Mick Taylor about that hedonistic period in 1971 – when the Stones abandoned the UK for France to avoid a huge tax bill – it appears to be a minor miracle that the album saw the light of day.

Drug dealers, pushers, users and hangers-on populated the 16-room 19th-century mansion, thought to be the former headquarters of the local Gestapo during the Nazi occupation of France .

"Keith was living over the shop all the time, so all his friends were there, and all our friends were there, so it was all a bit of a madhouse," Mick Jagger told the Sunday Times in a recent interview. "It was a big lifestyle thing going on in the house. When you see all the photos of it, it was full of people. It was fun and crazy."

According to Watts, the drummer, the album's recording schedule in the villa's basement was unconventional in the extreme. Wyman, the Stones' bassist, "would drive down at 10 o'clock in the morning, and nobody, including me, would be up till about three in the afternoon, because we didn't go to bed until nine… So Bill would go home at six and Keith would be getting up," he laughs. "That was the kind of timetable. We used to work like that a lot in those days."

Richards insisted he was not the villa's only hedonist. "Nobody gave a damn who was doing what. People were dabbling, everybody was," he said. "Mick is not the squeaky-clean little mother you think he is or he likes to portray himself as. The fact is that Mick doesn't hold stuff as well. Sometimes, I wish I could have a drink or two, or a hit of this or that, and I'd be out of it, but it doesn't affect me that way. I've always looked upon drugs as a bit of a tool, actually, and I'm the laboratory"

Exile on Main Street captured the Stones at their creative zenith, Watts said. "I think it's a peak period for our band. We had everything covered. We had a wonderful producer, Jimmy Miller, and you were playing with Nicky Hopkins, who could play blues as well as the prettiest piano. We had Mick Taylor, who for me was the most lyrical player we had, and we had Mick and Keith writing."

Or as Jagger put it: "It's a great piece of period music that's stood the test of time."
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There were loads of drugs and booze but... this was rock ‘n’ roll


By GORDON SMART, Bizarre Editor

Published: Today


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2979919/Mick-Jagger-in-excl...

THE booze, the drugs, the women, the rock 'n' roll . . . and a spot of the ancient art of falconry.
This is the story of the ROLLING STONES album Exile On Main St. through the eyes of the band's swaggering frontman MICK JAGGER.

With the album back in the charts this week (and set to be their first No1 for 16 years), Sir Mick revisits those crazy, hazy days between July 1971 and March 1972 when the Stones decamped to the south of France to:


Live like the ultimate decadent rock stars.


Avoid going bust because of the band's "crippling" tax bill.


Work on what is now regarded as the greatest Stones record of all.

In an exclusive interview with The Sun, Mick, 66, admits with the widest, toothiest grin in rock: "Yes we used to take loads of drugs BUT! we worked very, very hard as a unit during those drink-and drug-fuelled sessions."

However, he does accept that the mind-altering excesses "would become part of the process and that's when it could become weird and difficult".

The move or "exile" to balmy Mediterranean climes began in May 1971 when guitarist KEITH RICHARDS and his stunning blonde girlfriend ANITA PALLENBERG rented a rambling mansion, Villa Nellcôte, near Nice, reputedly a Gestapo headquarters during the Second World War.

By July, the band of Mick, Keith, drummer CHARLIE WATTS, guitarist MICK TAYLOR and bassist BILL WYMAN assembled in the mansion's basement to continue work on the album that would become Exile On Main St.

Outside, a big truck nestled in the leafy grounds, serving as the Stones' mobile recording unit.

"Keith's basement wasn't really a very good location because the band had always loved to play in big rooms," says Mick, picking up the story.

"Keith was living over the shop all the time so all his friends were there, and all our friends were there. It was all a bit of a madhouse... but, in the end, it all started to click.

"As I said, there were lots of drugs and lots of drinking and lots of carrying on but, you know, it's not like working in a factory. It was a rock and roll environment."

That year, Mick had married Nicaraguan beauty BIANCA, already expecting their daughter JADE, at a Catholic ceremony in St. Tropez.

For the Exile sessions, the Jaggers decided to rent a manor house in Antibes, not far from Nellcôte. Here the atmosphere was peaceful in comparison to the mayhem at Keith's place.

"I had my piano, a swimming pool. I could write lyrics, try things out, chill out, have friends over.

"One visitor was a friend called PETER WHITEHEAD, an acclaimed film-maker. He was very well off.

"Somehow he had become falconer to the Saudi royal family and he used to turn up with his falcons.

"Part of my relaxing was learning falconry in the grounds of this house. That was fun and different.

"The other thing I'd do was go out on my own on my new motorbike up into the hills above Nellcôte - just a few miles and you were in the most remote areas, nothing there except great countryside with superb views."

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It's strange to think that the Stones, renowned for wild extravagance, were in France because of crippling financial pressure.

Mick explains: "We had had a pretty sedate lifestyle in England. Well, not that sedate, but centred and grounded. We were very English in our ways.

"Then the crunch period came with us having to become tax exiles. Our lovely lives in England had to end and that was the beginning of Exile."

Mick is at pains to put right a widely held misconception about Exile On Main St., sparked by the near mythical stay in France.


"When I'm asked to recall the recording of Exile, I have to think, 'When was that?'.

"Though everyone interested in the Rolling Stones says, 'Well, Exile was all done in the south of France,' in reality it wasn't.

"It was recorded over quite a long time... 1970 to '72.

"Some Rolling Stones albums were done in two months, but Exile was done all over the place - Olympic Studios, London, my old English country house, Los Angeles and, of course, Nellcôte.

"It all started from odd demos we had left from (previous album) Sticky Fingers and some songs done with the Stones' mobile unit at my house, Stargroves, in England. I remember doing Sweet Black Angel and an early take of Loving Cup there."

Today, Exile - 18 songs over 67 minutes - is regarded as the quintessential Stones album, ramshackle yet inspired, sprawling yet enthralling, laid back yet rocking. You simply wouldn't want a single note different.

But, at the time, it was the work of a band at the crossroads with mounting debts and, as Mick reveals, its very existence in jeopardy.

"One reason Exile was done over a lengthy period was that we were leaving Decca Records. We had all sorts of problems with them.

"We also had a problem with our management, ALLEN KLEIN and his various cohorts claiming they owned a lot of the unreleased stuff we had. So we wanted to get out of his contract."

And, remarkably, the Stones - who had scored countless hits including Satisfaction, Paint It Black and Jumpin' Jack Flash and had played live for millions of fans - were practically skint.

Mick says: "We didn't have much money and the tax we owed was crippling the band.

"We went through a lot of shenanigans to keep the Stones alive. In the end, it all worked out but it was difficult getting a different management and finding our feet financially.
"At that point, we had to move out of England because taxes were very, very high.

"We owed the Inland Revenue a lot of money, so to earn it and pay them back we had to move out of the country.

"We all moved out - forced out by the financial mess we were in - from being quite happy in England to live in France.

"Looking at the final tracks that made it on to Exile On Main St., it's interesting that only nine of them were done in a nine-month period at Nellcôte, then me and Keith went off to LA to do overdubs and mixing . . . and finish off songs like Tumbling Dice."

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Which brings us to the remastered and expanded edition of Exile, which saw off the likes of LADY GAGA and KEANE in the midweek UK album chart.

The new two-CD version features the original album in all its glory, from the gospel-infused Shine A Light to the rollicking hit Tumbling Dice and languid loveliness of Let It Loose.

There's also a remarkably fine ten-track second CD of songs that didn't make the cut as well as alternate versions of some that did.

Some of the tracks were recently completed in the spirit of Exile with new lyrics and vocals from Mick.

And despite the madness around its making, the passage of time has given the singer time to reflect on the album's merits.

"Looking back, it was worth all the effort and, yes, it's a great record that has stood the test of time."



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2979919/Mick-Jagger-in-excl...

(there's another interview with Mick in The Sun tomorrow)
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Ronnie Wood toasts success with a cup of tea as Rolling Stones look set for another No. 1


By Ben Todd
Last updated at 3:58 PM on 20th May 2010

His young girlfriend has been working hard to keep Ronnie Wood on the wagon.

So the rocker, notorious for his heavy drinking, had to content himself with kisses and a cup of tea following the news the Rolling Stones are once more heading to the top of the charts.

The 62-year-old enjoyed a low-key celebratory outing in West London this afternoon with Brazilian polo coach Ana Araujo, 30, whom he began dating early this year.

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Cheers to me: Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood and girlfriend Ana Araujo enjoyed a sober lunch in West London today


His legendary band are set to secure their first No1 album in 16 years this weekend with their re-mastered version of Exile On Main Street.

They are in a close battle with dance act Faithless for the No1 spot. According to the latest leaked sales figures, the Rolling Stones are just 500 copies ahead of their rivals.

It would be their first chart-topper in the UK since Voodoo Lounge in 1994.

Meanwhile, the record is proving a hit again all over the world. It is on course to be No2 in the US charts.

Exile On Main Street - infamously recorded over three years in London, Berkshire, the South of France and Los Angeles - was originally a chart-topper in both Britain
and the US following it’s release in May 1972.

The re-issue includes 10 tracks that had previously never been released – and four tracks that even frontman Sir Mick Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards, both 66, had forgotten even existed.

Last night, a friend of the band’s said: ‘They’re delighted people have taken to the record once more.

‘They are particularly pleased that, in their home country, young people are discovering the band’s music for the first time.’

Jagger attended the European premiere of a documentary - called Stones In Exile - chronicling the making of the album at the Cannes Film Festival last night.

He was then expected to head to a party on a super yacht belonging to Microsoft co-owner Paul Allen.

The Rolling Stones are ahead of dance act Faithless and their new album The Dance in the battle to be No1.

A music industry source said: ‘It actually is incredible that the Stones are on course for the No1 spot again. It just shows how timeless their music really is – and just how huge an act they remain.’

The Daily Mail revealed back in February how the band discovered four ‘lost’ tracks from the recording sessions for the 1972 Exile on Main St. album.

Jagger and Richards came across the songs - Plundered My Soul, Dancing In The Light, Following The River and Pass The Wine – when they listened again to the original master copies of the recording sessions after discovering them in the basement of the band’s London offices.

In all, the new version of the album features 10 extra recordings – including the four unheard of tracks.

The original 18-track double-album was recorded at a number of different studios - most infamously at Richards' south of France mansion , called Nellcote, where the band notoriously staged the longest house party in history.

Upon it's original release, the album initially received a lukewarm response from critics. However, it is now accepted as one of the most important albums of all time.

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Cmon you folks in the UK...only 500 copies ahead?......get buyin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In Cannes, Mick Jagger walks down memory lane


Published On Wed May 19 2010
By Peter Howell
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Rolling Stones lead singer Mick Jagger and fashion stylist L'Wren Scott arrive at
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Jagger is in Cannes to promote the film Stones In Exile.

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CANNES, FRANCE

Rolling Stone Mick Jagger was in an unusually nostalgic and self-mocking mood Wednesday evening, as he invited Cannes Film Festival goers to spend the night together with him on a trip down memory lane.

“We were young, good-looking and stupid — and now we're just stupid,” Jagger said of his band, before the world debut of Stones in Exile, British filmmaker Stephen Kijak's documentary on the making of Exile on Main Street, the group's landmark 1972 double album.

Exile was recorded in the summer of 1971 about a half-hour away from Cannes up the Riviera coast, in the billionaires preserve of Villefranche-sur-Mer. They set up shop in a 19th-century banker’s mansion called Villa Nellcôte, where they spent months crafting such Stones classics as “Tumbling Dice,” “Happy,” “Rip This Joint” and “Sweet Virginia.”

The album was newly released this week, with a bonus disc of additional songs that Jagger and his guitarist bandmate Keith Richards had forgotten all about. That's how wild the sessions were at Villa Nellcôte, which included heroin shoot-ups, all-night partying, marathon music-making and unclothed modelling, of which session sax player Bobby Keys says in the film, “Without it, you ain't got rock 'n' roll.”

The film's debut in the Director's Fortnight program at the Palais Stephanie theatre became the hot ticket of Cannes 2010, with thousands of people lining up hours before the 5 p.m. screening for a theatre that holds just a few hundred. Tempers flared as people pushed and shoved for a seat, more so even than at Stones concerts. They were drawn by the presence of Jagger, one of the few superstars making the trek to the Croisette during the festival this year.

Jagger normally hates anything that smacks of nostalgia, possibly because he's been one for growing older. But as the band members push the impossible age of 70 — and former bass player Bill Wyman is already there, at 73 — the Stones frontman seem more inclined to talk about the good ol' days than he ever was.

He described going back to the Exile master tapes and helping Kijak make his doc a much happier experience than he'd ever imagined.

“It's like when you look through your family scrapbook, in a way, isn't it?”

Some scrapbook: The film shows just how tough the making of Exile was. It's not easy being creative in the midst of 24/7 debauchery, with high-profile guests (John Lennon and Yoko Ono amongst them) dropping in nights and the band members’ many children keeping them busy during the day.

The film adds a few new details to the Exile story, such as how the band really was on the run — partly from their outsized reputation, but mainly from the British taxman, who was dinging them for 93 per cent of all their earnings. Drummer Charlie Watts grouses in the film that if the band earned £1 million, they'd only be able to take home £70,000 of it because of all the taxes incurred.

The solution was to hie themselves off to the south of France, and to a mansion that Richards had rented both for its solitude and for the fact it used to be the local Gestapo headquarters during World War II, when the Nazis occupied France.

Jagger reveals in the film that the idea for the hit tune “Tumbling Dice” came from the mansion's housekeeper, who loved to gamble and literally roll the dice.

The film is scheduled to be broadcast June 10 on French TV but will probably go straight to DVD in North America, as part of the promotion for the revamped Exile CD.

Jagger surprised the audience by speaking in quite passable French for his opening remarks, in which he reflected on how Richard Nixon was still in the White House and the U.S. was still fighting the Vietnam War when the Stones went to their Villa Nellcôte retreat.

Looking relaxed in a grey jacket, white shirt and track shoes, Jagger stayed following the screening to answer audience questions.

At the time of making Exile did he feel he'd finally beaten The Beatles, the rival British pop group that had officially broken up a year earlier? Jagger said he never felt much of a rivalry between the two groups and “I think it was kind of sad” The Beatles broke up, though he thought they never would have survived the big stadium tours that the Stones later mastered.

Here are some other Jagger comments:

• On Richard's filmed comment that, “Mick's rock and I'm roll”: “I thought I rolled and he rocked.”

• On pot smoking and rock stardom: “I'm not saying it's really great to smoke pot and sing. I'm not saying it's really ideal.”

• On today's newer pop acts: “There's great music and there's s—t in every era.”

• On rock critics initially slagging Exile on Main Street in 1972: “Critics take a long time, like any other listener, to get into something.”

• On which film directors and actors he likes: “There are so many great directors and good actors — and most of them aren't here.”

• On how he feels about returning to Exile after 39 years: “I didn't really relish it in the beginning, but in the end, I quite enjoyed it.”

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Ronnie looks good.
The words "Scared Straight" come to mind.

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Ronnie Wood toasts success with a cup of tea as Rolling Stones look set for another No. 1


By Ben Todd
Last updated at 3:58 PM on 20th May 2010

His young girlfriend has been working hard to keep Ronnie Wood on the wagon.

So the rocker, notorious for his heavy drinking, had to content himself with kisses and a cup of tea following the news the Rolling Stones are once more heading to the top of the charts.

The 62-year-old enjoyed a low-key celebratory outing in West London this afternoon with Brazilian polo coach Ana Araujo, 30, whom he began dating early this year.



Well done on that success, Ronnie!! Cause for celebration indeed!
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Cmon you folks in the UK...only 500 copies ahead?......get buyin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We already have! Thats the problem!

At least if we lose out on the top spot, it won't be to Glee, whatever the hell THAT is!
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Jagger and Richards came across the songs - Plundered My Soul, Dancing In The Light, Following The River and Pass The Wine – when they listened again to the original master copies of the recording sessions after discovering them in the basement of the band’s London offices.


so that's where those mysterious archives are, I always figured they must have been hidden at area 51 as off limits as they seem to be
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Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Well done on that success, Ronnie!! Cause for celebration indeed!

Even though he had nothing to do with 'Exile', do you think Ronnie might somehow be cut in for a taste from the re-issue and merch sales?
Bill and MT stand to make a few bob, too, non?
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gimmekeef wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:41am:
Cmon you folks in the UK...only 500 copies ahead?......get buyin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We already have! Thats the problem!

At least if we lose out on the top spot, it won't be to Glee, whatever the hell THAT is!


Glee is nother stupid reality type tv show I think. It's sitting #1 currently on Itunes with Exile stuck in sixth....I'm not downloading mp3's and hate Itunes.........
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According to the Stones Facebook page, Amazon have bumped the price of Exile down to 5.99 in the UK. They hope, as do I, that this will lead to an increase in sales and keep the album on top of the charts! I know the Stones probably don't have a lot to do with their faebook, but this seems to be an indecation that they want the no.1 spot. I'm sure Mick does anyway!!!
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Glee is nother stupid reality type tv show I think.

It's actually a Fox show about a (fictional) high school glee club.
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stonedinaustralia wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 8:36am:
just saw "stones in exile"

fantastic

mick at the olympic studios -  "boring" - he sets out his distate for nostalgia and sentimentality (see where johnny lydon picked up some cues)

but i got a  fresh appreciation of how much of a wrench it must have been to move... no more HP sauce!! ...in the names of all the gods at once how did they survive!! ...bobby  had the right attitude...st.tropez rocks - girls and drugs and rock and roll

my only disappointment - "Let it Loose" didn't get a hearing


It's incorrectly labeled as Nellcote rehearsal, but its actually a rehearsal in Dallas during the 72 tour. Jagger is in excellent form here, but unfortunately the song is full of stops and starts and there's alot more....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd4EMhFW0yI&feature=related
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Sublime. I really wish they'd used that one too.
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There's a man with a "We're at the top of the charts" spring in his step!
Nice work, Mick!
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Revisiting ‘Main St.,’ Rethinking the Myth


By BEN RATLIFF
Published: May 18, 2010

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Dominique Tarle

Keith Richards catching rays at Villa Nellcôte in 1971



A LESSER-KNOWN version of the Rolling Stones’ “Loving Cup,” found on the bonus disc of the new reissue of the band’s 1972 album, “Exile on Main St.,” seems to me the best thing the Stones ever did.

It’s country gospel gone lurid, and it seems to rise up out of a nap. Nicky Hopkins’s piano chords circle around a G at slow tempo in an echoey room. Charlie Watts starts pumping a bass drum at the third beat of the second bar; he’s either late or early, but finding his way. Piano and drums roll up to the A chord at the beginning of the first verse, and Mick Taylor bends two guitar strings under Mick Jagger’s opening line: “I’m the man on the mountain — yes, come on up.” Onward, Mr. Watts weaves around the beat, smashing down on his high-hat, forming weird and clattering snare-drum fills. He both shapes and follows the group’s euphoria and the music’s subtle acceleration. The Stones gather around the song like pickpockets, jostling and interfering with it. Keith Richards, playing rhythm guitar and singing backup, quits harmonizing and starts to shout.

This performance represents to me the sound of “Exile” in idealized form: a dark, dense, loosely played, semiconscious tour through American blues, gospel and country music, recorded in a basement in France. “Exile” was made around the Stones’ creative peak and in unusual circumstances: they were tax exiles, forced to live away from home.

It is often called one of the best rock records ever made, and framed as an after-the-fact concept album: a wise horror show, an audio diary of rock stars finally facing the rigors of marriage, children and addiction. (“ ‘Exile’ is about casualties, and partying in the face of them,” the critic Lester Bangs wrote in 1972. “The party is obvious. The casualties are inevitable.”) The notion of the record as story also comes from the strong documentary images around its creation— Dominique Tarlé’s black-and-white pictures of the Stones at Villa Nellcôte, shirtless and dazed in the stifling air of a basement in the South of France. These images dot the 64-page booklet and the DVD film included in the reissue’s deluxe edition and have been part of the avalanche of press around the reissue, released by Universal on Tuesday.

Recently, thinking about this alternate “Loving Cup” and why it’s not on the original album made me wonder what the ideal of “Exile” really is. I find most of “Exile” good, but not great. (That era of Stones music, fantastic. The album, not so much.) I can’t see it as a masterpiece, not only because I distrust the idea of masterpieces, but because I especially don’t want one from the Stones, who make songs and albums like birds’ nests — collaborative tangles with delicate internal balances — and have a history of great triage work, assembling bits and pieces recorded over a long period. But “Exile” remains the preference of the most judicious Stones fans. Why? What is its essence?

It’s a tricky question. “Exile” can seem like a unity of sound, place and time; much has been made of the fact that one of its greatest songs, “Ventilator Blues,” was inspired by the discomfort of the basement studio at Nellcôte, Mr. Richards’s rented mansion on the French Riviera, with its one small air vent. You can make yourself hear that heat, if you want.

But the recordings for “Exile” didn’t all happen in that basement. They stretched from 1969 to 1972, across the making of two other excellent and, to me, superior records — “Let It Bleed” and “Sticky Fingers.” It’s not always the band you know and, perhaps, love: there are a number of “Exile” tracks whose parts are not played by the usual suspects. (That’s Jimmy Miller, the producer, playing drums on “Happy” and “Shine a Light,” not Mr. Watts. That’s Mr. Taylor, or Mr. Richards, or Bill Plummer playing bass on about half the record, not Bill Wyman.)

As it happens, the “Loving Cup” described above was not recorded in Nellcôte’s basement but at Olympic Studios in London in the spring of 1969. (The album version — more laid back, not as good — comes from Los Angeles, after the French sojourn.) The Nellcôte experience was important to “Exile,” there’s no question. But the work of several Stones researchers indicates that more than half the album was recorded at other places, under more normal working conditions.

The new reissue both enshrines “Exile” and questions it. The first disc — a sharper version of the album itself, sounding far better than its last remastering in 1994, with deeper bass and greater detail — strengthens the idea of “Exile” as an inviolable document, dense and atmospheric and brilliantly post-produced, a thing unto itself. But the second bonus disc blows that idea apart, with new vocal tracks by Mr. Jagger over old instrumental tracks of “Exile”-related provenance, and other material that seems to come from the general era. So now you’re getting “Exile” from two perspectives: first as a finished 18-track entity, a masterpiece, if you want; then as something broader and more amorphous. If I’m reading the signs correctly, these two perspectives have some relation to how Mr. Richards and Mr. Jagger think about the album.

Mr. Jagger, who has criticized the album’s production over the years and wondered aloud about the strength of its songs, is more willing to dispense with Nellcôte as the album’s central force.

“You mean what is the album’s esprit?” he asked, rephrasing a question in a recent telephone conversation. The idea of Nellcôte as the album’s unifier is “three-quarters true,” he explained.

“It wouldn’t be the same record without Nellcôte,” he added. “But then it wouldn’t be the same record without what we did in London. Nellcôte was more hothouse, it was more living-in-the-studio. But what would the difference have been if we recorded ‘Ventilator Blues’ at Olympic or at Nellcôte? Who knows, and who cares?”

Miller, the album’s producer, died in 1994. So Mr. Jagger commissioned the producer Don Was to investigate extra studio material from the period. (“When Mick first called me about it,” Mr. Was said, “it was like he was asking me, ‘Can you do me a favor, man? Can you take the garbage out?’ ”) But then Mr. Jagger got caught up in the search himself, trying to determine what other tracks might qualify as extra matter for “Exile.” Mr. Jagger said he thought only in terms of time period, not by style, sound, location, or any other criterion. For him, “Exile” is less a specific sequence of tracks than an era of recording, starting with that “Loving Cup” at Olympic Studios.

“It’s a good story to say that what was created at Nellcôte was a result of the incredibly decadent atmosphere,” Mr. Jagger said. “Well, yeah: it’s probably true that the atmosphere affected the feeling of the music, and the sound of the studio. But you’ve no idea how much or how little. And in the end, it’s just a sort of myth, really.”

Can he hear the sound of the Nellcôte studios when he listens to the album?

“I’ve no idea which is the Nellcôte stuff and which isn’t, to be honest.”

Ah.

Mr. Richards feels differently. “All of the bone and the muscle of the record was done down in that basement,” he said when asked the same question. The rest of the work he considers “fairy dust.”

It’s the opposite interpretation, but if you read the literature — particularly Robert Greenfield’s book “Exile on Main St.: A Season in Hell With the Rolling Stones” (Da Capo Press) — it makes sense. Nellcôte was Mr. Richards’s house, and he was one of its mainstays that summer, with his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg and their son Marlon. The other band members came and went; Inasmuch as “Exile” has an esprit of place, Mr. Richards lived in it, and Mr. Jagger visited.

“I don’t think we were conscious of making a record that was gonna be about that place and the way we felt at the time,” Mr. Richards said in a phone interview. “But the word ‘exile’ does describe pretty much the atmosphere and the conditions that we were recording in. I mean, we’d all had to leave our places in England. Not that the Stones were particularly patriotic — I know better than that — but it was really a jerk, when you’re working with a team of guys and you all have to uproot at once.”

Mr. Richards contributed little to the extra tracks on the bonus disc and distrusted altering even the outtakes and unused tracks; as he said to another reporter earlier this year, “I didn’t want to interfere with the Bible.”

“My job was to enforce the no-fiddling rule,” he told me. “I didn’t want to play around with it at all. It’s all analog, and of course the remixing involved a change to digital, but otherwise, if anybody came up with a bright idea, I said no.”

It’s not clear that Mr. Jagger heard him. He put new vocals on four of the bonus tracks: “Plundered My Soul,” “Following the River,” “Dancing in the Light” and “Pass the Wine.” In “Plundered” — after some newly tracked guitar in the opening by Mr. Taylor — you hear a 66-year-old voice singing recent lyrics: an aging aristocrat describing a younger man’s appetites, over what appears to be the Stones sounding worn and wracked in their 20s.

Mr. Was believes that nobody, not even the Stones themselves, can remember when the backing tracks for “Plundered My Soul” were recorded.

The strange thing is that “Plundered My Soul” is very good: the most soulful and energetic Stones track I can think of in almost 30 years. Until recently, the Stones have been reluctant to release their unheard archives. Perhaps that’s because they’re so good at putting old scraps into new patchworks — the then-three-year-old songs retooled in 1972 for “Exile,” the then-nine-year-old songs (“Tops” and “Waiting on a Friend”) given new vocals and new life in 1981 on “Tattoo You.”

The rest of the bonus disc is very good, too, patchwork, mysteries and all. According to Mr. Was, two tracks come from Nellcôte — a petulant shuffle called “I’m Not Signifying” and an alternate version of “Soul Survivor,” sung by Mr. Richards. One other, a nasty R&B instrumental called “Title 5,” came from a tape box marked “1969,” though Mr. Was suspects it was made earlier. So do I.

I don’t know if a great album must serve as an accounting of where the band members’ heads were at, or where they were geographically, or when they made it. But in the Stones’ case, I do want to hear the group sound, as much as possible. I want a minimum of detours, absences and static longeurs, with introductions and bridges and codas. The Stones wrote and arranged carefully, but this is a record that favors jamming over composing; though only one track is longer than five minutes, many quickly drag from indirection: “Happy,” “Casino Boogie,” “Stop Breaking Down,” “Shine a Light” — half the record, really.

Still, because of its rolling eccentricity, “Exile” always wants to be heard in full, or at least in small groupings, including the two great segues: the hard “Rocks Off” into the harder “Rip This Joint”; the angry gnarl of “Ventilator Blues” into the menthol drift of “I Just Want to See His Face.” Throughout, I love Mr. Jagger’s yapping voice, determined to be heard, feeling its way through cultural appropriation. I think Mr. Richards’s limping rhythm in “Tumbling Dice” is one of the great energies in popular music, even if I’ve never worked up much love for the song.

But back to the alternate take of “Loving Cup,” which still seems like the star of the whole enterprise.

I asked Don Was what he thought. “There’s a sound that’s identified with ‘Exile’ that’s become part of the vocabulary for every rock ‘n’ roll musician subsequently,” he said. “And this is the ultimate track of the style that characterizes ‘Exile.’ It’s not sloppiness; it’s width, in terms of where everyone feels the beat. You’ve got five individuals feeling the beat in a different place. At some point, the centrifugal force of the rhythm no longer holds the band together. That ‘Loving Cup’ is about the widest area you can have without the song falling apart.”

What leapt out was the phrase “the style that characterizes ‘Exile,’ ” especially in connection with a track that’s not actually on the record. For me, “Exile” works best as a suggestion, not a fact.

The New York Times
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gimmekeef wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 1:31pm:
Glee is nother stupid reality type tv show I think.

It's actually a Fox show about a (fictional) high school glee club.


i woudn't watch it for cash in my hand... and i watch some dumbass tv shows.
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Man, INS is good! I was cranking it on the way back from the grocery store on the ole Alpine system, rared up to pass a fart and pooed my pants a little!
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Interviewer: So is 'I'm Not Signifying' that good?

SG: Depends.

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Interviewer: So is 'I'm Not Signifying' that good?

SG: Depends.


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left shoe shuffle wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 2:27pm:
gimmekeef wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 1:31pm:
Glee is nother stupid reality type tv show I think.

It's actually a Fox show about a (fictional) high school glee club.


i woudn't watch it for cash in my hand... and i watch some dumbass tv shows.


That's a good policy. I searched You Cant Always Get What You into YouTube and since ABKCO had removed all the stones videos of it, I was left with the Glee version. Well! Sweet Mother of God, it was utter shite.... In the past, blasphemers would have been stoned, but Glee,s utter butcher job of this song was musical blasphemy although it was me who felt if I was being stoned for listening to it!!

The most anoying thing is, people of my age group who watch this tripe probably have never heard of the song and will think that this version is superior.  Retarded post

What has happened to music? I hope the stones get to number one this week because it will be a moral victory for me over a friend of mine who saw my copy of Exile on the day I bough it, read the cover and responded "eugh.... The Rolling Stones?!?" People wouldn't know
good music if it smacked them in the face with a shovel, which is what I feel like doing at some points!!! OK, gotta calm myself down.....   Oh no! not you again
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thanx tex - as GTRM says - sublime
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Jagger and Richards came across the songs - Plundered My Soul, Dancing In The Light, Following The River and Pass The Wine – when they listened again to the original master copies of the recording sessions after discovering them in the basement of the band’s London offices.


so that's where those mysterious archives are, I always figured they must have been hidden at area 51 as off limits as they seem to be  



If the burglary rate in London is any yardstick, I expect the entire archives to be on e-bay by the weekend.
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Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 11:02am:
left shoe shuffle wrote on May 20th, 2010 at 10:25am:
Jagger and Richards came across the songs - Plundered My Soul, Dancing In The Light, Following The River and Pass The Wine – when they listened again to the original master copies of the recording sessions after discovering them in the basement of the band’s London offices.


so that's where those mysterious archives are, I always figured they must have been hidden at area 51 as off limits as they seem to be  



If the burglary rate in London is any yardstick, I expect the entire archives to be on e-bay by the weekend.


I will be excited if they end up on dime a dozen or demonoid....
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