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Five things that would have improved GHS
May 15^th, 2009 at 2:04pm

1. Open it with Hearbreaker instead of Mr. D.
2. Substitute Criss Cross Mind for Silver Train.
3. Let Taylor rip a killer solo on Coming Down Again instead of turgid sax dirge.
4. Tone the strings down on Winter and don't fade the solo out.
5. Slap Jimmy Miller in the face and tell him to produce the thing like the previous four albums.

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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #1 - May 15^th, 2009 at 2:18pm

1. Open it with Hearbreaker instead of Mr. D.
2. Substitute Criss Cross Mind for Silver Train.
3. Let Taylor rip a killer solo on Coming Down Again instead of turgid sax dirge.
4. Tone the strings down on Winter and don't fade the solo out.
5. Slap Jimmy Miller in the face and tell him to produce the thing like the previous four albums "

How about : ' get keef off smack ' ?!

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Zack Rocks Off Regular Offline Chiba Face Rules You Bastards! Posts: 1,727 Dakar Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #2 - May 15^th, 2009 at 2:34pm 6. Get Keith off smack. :funny
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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #4 - May 15^th, 2009 at 2:56pm

1. Change the opening track or at least re-record it with some balls. Mr D was probably the weakest opening ever to a Stones album. (it was great in concert, though)

2. Include Criss Cross Mind instead of one or two other candidates.

3. Mix the bloody thing properly (thank you, Virgin and Mickboy for correcting things)

4. What Joey said. ("Joey in sensible post" shock!)

5. What speedfreakjive said.

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Some Guy Resident Cretin Offline Posts: 15,828 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #6 - May 15^th, 2009 at 3:02pm BILL PERKS wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 3:00pm: MICK T SOLO ON MR D OFF BRUSSELS IS THE SHIT! YES! MY NIZZLE!
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Throwaway Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 826 MD Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #8 - May 15^th, 2009 at 3:16pm -add Living In the Heart of Love -Longer solo during fadeout of 100Years Ago -Sax solo is good on Coming Down Again -put on Waiting on a Friend -Silver Train needs better production, more raw sound -Angie needs to sound more like Brussels version -Don't do a thing to Starf---, it's awesome
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #9 - May 15^th, 2009 at 4:02pm Here is my list of proposed changes... 1. Substitute Criss Cross Mind for Can You Hear the Music? 2. Add one more fast rocker.
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Pdog Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 6,122 aTx Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #11 - May 15^th, 2009 at 4:47pm mojoman wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 4:12pm: more coke........... and cowbells!
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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #13 - May 15^th, 2009 at 5:54pm

Throwaway wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 3:16pm:

-add Living In the Heart of Love
-Longer solo during fadeout of 100Years Ago
-Sax solo is good on Coming Down Again
-put on Waiting on a Friend
-Silver Train needs better production, more raw sound
-Angie needs to sound more like Brussels version
-Don't do a thing to Starf---, it's awesome

Some good points, but WOAF as it was back then wasnt really finished. It was definitely improved with overdubs years later.

Living in the Heart of Love was an IORR outtake, not GHS.

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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #14 - May 15^th, 2009 at 6:39pm

Gazza wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 5:54pm:

Some good points, but WOAF as it was back then wasnt really finished. It was definitely improved with overdubs years later.

Living in the Heart of Love was an IORR outtake, not GHS.

Ohhh I wasn't quite sure about LITHOL, I mix up the 72-74 sessions a lot. I usually try to avoid "what-ifs" like the WOAF one, cause then it would affect a later album as well. But for some reason, a Jimmy Miller/Mick Taylor era piano-heavy version of the song would fit in with Coming Down Again and Hide Your Love, I feel.

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platter Ex Member	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #15 - May 15^th, 2009 at 7:06pm i'll have to dust this one off soon and try to find something wrong with it. it might be difficult tho.
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StonesFanatic Rocks Off Regular Offline Rolling Stones purist Posts: 193 Boston Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #16 - May 18^th, 2009 at 5:44am Good points, all...while I dig this album it's their first mis-step after that string of pearls (from Beggars Banquet to Exile).
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lotsajizz Rocks Off Regular Online Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,790 Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #17 - May 18^th, 2009 at 7:29am New lyrics to 'Can You Hear The Music'....nice groove, insipid words. Indeed, I think the same of "Dancing With Mister D" and "100 Years Ago". And, yes, add "Criss Cross Mind". Also, the acoustic "Silver Train" instead of the electic....
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StonesFanatic Rocks Off Regular Offline Rolling Stones purist Posts: 193 Boston Gender:	Re: Five things that would have improved GHS Reply #18 - May 18^th, 2009 at 7:36am Why all the hate for Mr. D? I agree it's not a Stones classic (they only played it live in '73, right?) but it's not too bad... GHS isn't a hugely flawed album, but it has so many little flaws that they add up to a lot after a while...
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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #19 - May 18^th, 2009 at 8:27am

Goats Head Soup is one of those releases of the Stones that sounds dated to me.
I like it - but unlike Exile and IORR, it seems particularly early 70s in its sound.
That said, it is still my favorite wake up Stones after a long night because of the slower tunes.

Dancin With Mr. D. - wrong opener.
One of those songs where they seemed bored playing it.
Heartbreaker would have been fine and Starfucker would have set the tone the best.
I like the idea of a strong closer, but Silver Train could have done the trick.

Why Do You Hide Your Love has some of the best slide ever, but I hate the lyrics -- could have been a more inspired tune given Taylor's fine work.

100 Years Ago is a strange song - I like the end and the runaway guitar - kind of 70s funky like Fingerprint File, but it always seems mismatched with that beginning.

Coming Down Again should go.

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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #20 - May 18^th, 2009 at 8:41am

nankerphelge wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:27am:

Goats Head Soup is one of those releases of the Stones that sounds dated to me.
I like it - but unlike Exile and IORR, it seems particularly early 70s in its sound.
That said, it is still my favorite wake up Stones after a long night because of the slower tunes.

Dancin With Mr. D. - wrong opener.
One of those songs where they seemed bored playing it.
Heartbreaker would have been fine and Starfucker would have set the tone the best.
I like the idea of a strong closer, but Silver Train could have done the trick.

Why Do You Hide Your Love has some of the best slide ever, but I hate the lyrics -- could have been a more inspired tune given Taylor's fine work.

100 Years Ago is a strange song - I like the end and the runaway guitar - kind of 70s funky like Fingerprint File, but it always seems mismatched with that beginning.

Coming Down Again should go.

I agree with quite a bit of this. The "lazy bones" interlude in 100 Years Ago is really the only bit I dislike. Coming Down Again I find is just too long=gets boring. Mr. D is a fine song but not as an opener. The live versions (or Johnny Winter's version) of Silver Train are better.

I absolutely agree it sounds dated...the wah-wah guitar/clavinets sound cool but they sound old, too...

And the cover/album art I've never been crazy about...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?

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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #22 - May 18^th, 2009 at 8:52am

LadyJane wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:48am:

"...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?"

It's a Jamaican delicacy.

"Coming Down Again should go."

*****************BLANK FRIGGIN STARE************************

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I like the song...it's just too long and boring...if it were tightened up and a bit shorted I'd like it even more...

Is GHS really a Jamaican delicacy?

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Re: Five things that would have improved GHS
Reply #23 - May 18^th, 2009 at 9:01am

StonesFanatic wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:52am:

LadyJane wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:48am:

"...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?"

It's a Jamaican delicacy.

"Coming Down Again should go."

*****************BLANK FRIGGIN STARE************************

LJ.

I like the song...it's just too long and boring...if it were tightened up and a bit shorted I'd like it even more...

Is GHS really a Jamaican delicacy?

Yep. Google for the recipe.

Blank Stare was really meant for Nanky. piss off

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