1.  Open it with Hearbreaker instead of Mr. D.
2.  Substitute Criss Cross Mind for Silver Train.
3.  Let Taylor rip a killer solo on Coming Down Again instead of turgid sax dirge.
4.  Tone the strings down on Winter and don't fade the solo out.
5.  Slap Jimmy Miller in the face and tell him to produce the thing like the previous four albums.

1.  Open it with Hearbreaker instead of Mr. D.
2.  Substitute Criss Cross Mind for Silver Train.
3.  Let Taylor rip a killer solo on Coming Down Again instead of turgid sax dirge.
4.  Tone the strings down on Winter and don't fade the solo out.
5.  Slap Jimmy Miller in the face and tell him to produce the thing like the previous four albums "


How about : ' get keef off smack ' ?!

6.  Get Keith off smack.  :funny

7. better tunes - this was when the Jagger-Richards partnership first started to deteriorate

1. Change the opening track or at least re-record it with some balls. Mr D was probably the weakest opening ever to a Stones album. (it was great in concert, though)

2. Include Criss Cross Mind instead of one or two other candidates.

3. Mix the bloody thing properly (thank you, Virgin and Mickboy for correcting things)

4. What Joey said.  ("Joey in sensible post" shock!)

5. What speedfreakjive said.

MICK T SOLO ON MR D OFF BRUSSELS IS THE SHIT!

BILL PERKS wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 3:00pm:

MICK T SOLO ON MR D OFF BRUSSELS IS THE SHIT!

YES! MY NIZZLE!

and change the ugly album cover while you are at it.

-add Living In the Heart of Love
-Longer solo during fadeout of 100Years Ago
-Sax solo is good on Coming Down Again
-put on Waiting on a Friend
-Silver Train needs better production, more raw sound
-Angie needs to sound more like Brussels version
-Don't do a thing to Starf---, it's awesome

Here is my list of proposed changes...


1.  Substitute Criss Cross Mind for Can You Hear the Music?
2. Add one more fast rocker.

more coke...........

mojoman wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 4:12pm:

more coke...........

and cowbells!

I got a good feelin bout this!

Throwaway wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 3:16pm:

-add Living In the Heart of Love -Longer solo during fadeout of 100Years Ago -Sax solo is good on Coming Down Again -put on Waiting on a Friend -Silver Train needs better production, more raw sound -Angie needs to sound more like Brussels version -Don't do a thing to Starf---, it's awesome

Some good points, but WOAF as it was back then wasnt really finished. It was definitely improved with overdubs years later.

Living in the Heart of Love was an IORR outtake, not GHS.

Gazza wrote on May 15^th, 2009 at 5:54pm:

Some good points, but WOAF as it was back then wasnt really finished. It was definitely improved with overdubs years later. Living in the Heart of Love was an IORR outtake, not GHS.

Ohhh I wasn't quite sure about LITHOL, I mix up the 72-74 sessions a lot.  I usually try to avoid "what-ifs" like the WOAF one, cause then it would affect a later album as well.  But for some reason, a Jimmy Miller/Mick Taylor era piano-heavy version of the song would fit in with Coming Down Again and Hide Your Love, I feel.

i'll have to dust this one off soon and try to find something wrong with it.  it might be difficult tho.

:wtf1

Good points, all...while I dig this album it's their first mis-step after that string of pearls (from Beggars Banquet to Exile).

New lyrics to 'Can You Hear The Music'....nice groove, insipid words.  Indeed, I think the same of "Dancing With Mister D" and "100 Years Ago".  And, yes, add "Criss Cross Mind".  Also, the acoustic "Silver Train" instead of the electic....

Why all the hate for Mr. D? I agree it's not a Stones classic (they only played it live in '73, right?) but it's not too bad...

GHS isn't a hugely flawed album, but it has so many little flaws that they add up to a lot after a while...

Goats Head Soup is one of those releases of the Stones that sounds dated to me.
I like it - but unlike Exile and IORR, it seems particularly early 70s in its sound.
That said, it is still my favorite wake up Stones after a long night because of the slower tunes.

Dancin With Mr. D. - wrong opener.
One of those songs where they seemed bored playing it.  
Heartbreaker would have been fine and Starfucker would have set the tone the best.  
I like the idea of a strong closer, but Silver Train could have done the trick.

Why Do You Hide Your Love has some of the best slide ever, but I hate the lyrics -- could have been a more inspired tune given Taylor's fine work.

100 Years Ago is a strange song - I like the end and the runaway guitar - kind of 70s funky like Fingerprint File, but it always seems mismatched with that beginning.  

Coming Down Again should go.

 

nankerphelge wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:27am:

Goats Head Soup is one of those releases of the Stones that sounds dated to me. I like it - but unlike Exile and IORR, it seems particularly early 70s in its sound. That said, it is still my favorite wake up Stones after a long night because of the slower tunes. Dancin With Mr. D. - wrong opener. One of those songs where they seemed bored playing it.   Heartbreaker would have been fine and Starfucker would have set the tone the best.   I like the idea of a strong closer, but Silver Train could have done the trick. Why Do You Hide Your Love has some of the best slide ever, but I hate the lyrics -- could have been a more inspired tune given Taylor's fine work. 100 Years Ago is a strange song - I like the end and the runaway guitar - kind of 70s funky like Fingerprint File, but it always seems mismatched with that beginning.   Coming Down Again should go.

I agree with quite a bit of this.  The "lazy bones" interlude in 100 Years Ago is really the only bit I dislike.  Coming Down Again I find is just too long=gets boring.  Mr. D is a fine song but not as an opener.  The live versions (or Johnny Winter's version) of Silver Train are better.

I absolutely agree it sounds dated...the wah-wah guitar/clavinets sound cool but they sound old, too...

And the cover/album art I've never been crazy about...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?

"...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?"

It's a Jamaican delicacy.

"Coming Down Again should go."

*****************BLANK FRIGGIN STARE************************

LJ.

LadyJane wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:48am:

"...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?" It's a Jamaican delicacy. "Coming Down Again should go." *****************BLANK FRIGGIN STARE************************ LJ.

I like the song...it's just too long and boring...if it were tightened up and a bit shorted I'd like it even more...

Is GHS really a Jamaican delicacy?

StonesFanatic wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:52am:

LadyJane wrote on May 18th, 2009 at 8:48am: "...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?" It's a Jamaican delicacy. "Coming Down Again should go." *****************BLANK FRIGGIN STARE************************ LJ. I like the song...it's just too long and boring...if it were tightened up and a bit shorted I'd like it even more... Is GHS really a Jamaican delicacy?

Yep. Google for the recipe.

Blank Stare was really meant for Nanky.  :whydontcha

LJ.

"   ("Joey in sensible post" shock!) "


http://www.grioo.com/images/rubriques/7/1005.jpg

Gotcha...and that's one delicacy I'll be happy to never touch!   :pukey

LadyJane wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 8:48am:

"...and what's with the fucking title of the album? Where'd that come from?" It's a Jamaican delicacy. "Coming Down Again should go." *****************BLANK FRIGGIN STARE************************ LJ.

It's also known from Turkey to China.
I've had some GH-soup here in Berlin from a turkish restaurant - one can tackle a dish if you don't have a look in the pot  :pukey
........otherwise it tastes quite good.

the norwegian do some similar disgusting dishes  :aimama
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove

No thanks!

StonesFanatic wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 7:36am:

Why all the hate for Mr. D? I agree it's not a Stones classic (they only played it live in '73, right?) but it's not too bad... GHS isn't a hugely flawed album, but it has so many little flaws that they add up to a lot after a while...

The studio version is a plodder. As one reviewer put it, "It wouldn't frighten a four year old".

Yes, only played live in 1973 - when they injected some much needed balls into it and showed what COULD have been.

Gazza wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 11:30am:

StonesFanatic wrote on May 18th, 2009 at 7:36am: Why all the hate for Mr. D? I agree it's not a Stones classic (they only played it live in '73, right?) but it's not too bad... GHS isn't a hugely flawed album, but it has so many little flaws that they add up to a lot after a while... The studio version is a plodder. As one reviewer put it, "It wouldn't frighten a four year old". Yes, only played live in 1973 - when they injected some much needed balls into it and showed what COULD have been.

The lyrics are a little cheesey, too...as I've said here and on IORR, a good song, just not a good opener...and way better live (the Wembley and Brussels versions are great)...

lotsajizz wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 7:29am:

New lyrics to 'Can You Hear The Music'....nice groove, insipid words.  Indeed, I think the same of "Dancing With Mister D" and "100 Years Ago".  And, yes, add "Criss Cross Mind".  Also, the acoustic "Silver Train" instead of the electic....

Ya think? To me, 'Silver Train' absolutely smokes. A bit of a throwaway lyrically, but a terrific rocker, and that harp playing is wonderful.

I think Mick's OTT campery in the video maybe adversely affects how it's been remembered, though!

StonesFanatic wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 11:31am:

Gazza wrote on May 18th, 2009 at 11:30am: StonesFanatic wrote on May 18th, 2009 at 7:36am: Why all the hate for Mr. D? I agree it's not a Stones classic (they only played it live in '73, right?) but it's not too bad... GHS isn't a hugely flawed album, but it has so many little flaws that they add up to a lot after a while... The studio version is a plodder. As one reviewer put it, "It wouldn't frighten a four year old". Yes, only played live in 1973 - when they injected some much needed balls into it and showed what COULD have been. The lyrics are a little cheesey, too...as I've said here and on IORR, a good song, just not a good opener...and way better live (the Wembley and Brussels versions are great)...

I dont think anyone's said they 'hate' it. Just that when you look at what had opened the 4 albums before it - Sympathy, Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar and Rocks Off - all classic songs that make you sit up and pay attention from the opening couple of bars and which set a great tone for what follows throughout the rest of the album  - it suffers badly by comparison.

Yeah...not exactly the most exciting album opener, agreed...

I bought it when it first came out. And I'll admit I wasn't terribly excited. But it was the Rolling Stones so wtf....?

Good enough reason!  :smile

open-g wrote on May 18^th, 2009 at 11:09am:

the norwegian do some similar disgusting dishes  :aimama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove

i'll stick with the shepherds pie thank you very much.

don't bust the crust

:wtf1

Right on!  :wow

I like every song on it,but to me the problem is,songs are just too slow.Specially Mr.d and silver train.Hide your love is fantastic,so is winter.100 years ago is perfect.

^Yeah the live versions of Mr D, Heartbreaker, Angie, 100 Years Ago are all better than the studio ones, IMO...