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Factory Girl Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 2,194 US Gender:	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #25 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 7:05am Dear FotiniD, You said it beautifully. I'm honored to call you my friend. FG!
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FotiniD Rocks Off Regular Offline ROCC & RO..ll... Posts: 998 Athens, Greece Gender:	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #26 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 7:51am Thanks a lot FG, the feeling is mutual
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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #27 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 8:12am

FotiniD wrote on Apr 30^th, 2009 at 1:49am:

Saint Sway wrote on Apr 29^th, 2009 at 1:36pm:

FotiniD wrote on Apr 29^th, 2009 at 1:16pm:

Saint Sway wrote on Apr 29^th, 2009 at 11:27am:

just curious...

how many people that claim to like Marriane Faithful have also attended Chris Jagger or Tim Ries shows?

I don't think I follow you Shit!

Faithful is down right awful sounding. I cant imagine anyone would go to see the old hag perform unless they were a total Stones sycophant that is so beyond fanatical that they'll go to anything thats even on the fringe of being related to the Stones in any way. Like Mick Jagger's girlfriend of 40 years ago or Mick's brother or a jazz show by one of the Stones horn players.

Basically what I'm saying is if Chuck Leavell charged $40 to see him juggle bowling pins, these same folks would be the ones going.

theres no reason anyone here would go see Marriane Faithful had she not dated Mick 4 decades ago

I knew you were taking it there. Contrary to what you might think, I happen to have no interest in Chris Jagger's music - and certainly Chuckie never even crossed my mind as a possibility Blank Frigging Stare

In my opinion, Marianne Faithfull has immense worth as a musician and performer. Her connection with the Stones, if anything, mainly helped in diminishing that, because just like you're doing now, people think she's only existing because she used to sleep with Mick. Let me remind you there have been legions of women who did just the same, but I don't see many of them doing what Marianne does.

I love going to her gigs and buying her records just for her. Forget the Stones connection. Not to mention that from the 90's onwards, she's done WAY better records than some certain gentlemen have. Roll Eyes

The woman has had to spend her entire life trying to prove she's more than the "Mars bar girl" but I guess some people just don't get it. Pulling a Zappa, I'd say "you either get it or you don't".

Well done, my friend. Well done.

LJ.

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Saint Sway Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,356	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #28 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 9:05am You might want to pick up Carla Bruni's CD
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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #29 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 9:37am

Marianne Faithfull is an artist in her own right. If you can't see that, hey, different strokes for different folks. There are plenty of artists discussed on this board that I don't care for, but there's no reason for me to slag them. Interesting how the word "hag" is used by certain posters too - it speaks volumes about their attitude towards women. Nothing surprising about that though, is there.

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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #30 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 9:50am

Chris Jagger is also an artist in his own right too

Doesnt mean he's any good. And, like Faithful, it doesnt mean you'd have any interest in seeing him/her live if it wasnt for their relation to Mick.

Fact is, outside of a Stones board you find wont anyone talking about going to see her.

No one outside of here gives .02 cents about her

Try finding anyone on a Dylan, Springsteen, U2 or Zep site (insert any other band that people profess liking) that has any interest in seeing her.... you wont. Its only Stones psycophants.

That says it all right there. She dated Mick and people are fascinated in her for that. If she hadnt no one here would care. Thats the bottom line.

I'm not saying you cant like her - its all subjective after all. To each their own. Just own the reason why you have any vested interest in in the first place. People from Stones sites also go to see Blondie Chaplin. I mean, really....

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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #31 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 10:05am

So you are saying that the following posters are Stones psychophants:

glencar
SweetVirginia
LadyJane
FotiniD
GotToRollMe
Bitch
FactoryGirl
Gazza

Is that correct?

Yet YOU were bragging last month about YOUR involvement with the shooting of Bernard Fowler's latest video. Shouldn't I include you in the above list??

You know ZERO about our musical tastes and everyone can see what you are doing. You are baiting a good group of people.

We see you for what YOU are just as you claim to see US for what WE are. Nothing left to say really.

LJ.

Oh and btw it's spelled F-A-I-T-H-F-U-L-L. Wink

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Saint Sway Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,356	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #32 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 10:07am if the shoe fits...
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #33 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:22pm Actually, my brother-in-law doesn't really like the Stones but he was psyched when he heard I was going to see MF. I'm not sure I'd call her a hag. She's still quite attractive.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #34 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:24pm Saint Sway wrote on Apr 30^th, 2009 at 9:05am: You might want to pick up Carla Bruni's CD I saw her on Letterman & youtube & she's got a pretty nice voice. I don't know if I'd see her in concert but she's not some empty-headed wanna-be.
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FotiniD Rocks Off Regular Offline ROCC & RO..ll... Posts: 998 Athens, Greece Gender:	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #35 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:28pm LJ & GTRM, right on! And yes, the use of "hag" does say a lot...
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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,753 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #36 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:29pm If people wanna go see a person and band for whatever the reason.....to quote Tom L....Whose fuckin business is it anyway?
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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #37 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:39pm

Unh unh. There's a place for valid criticism & then there's what Sway is doing. You could say her voice is unappealing or that she does the same old set list (neither is true) but it's kinda crazy to say people only like her because she used to love MJ. That might be why some people know about her but that isn't what leads people to like her music, at least in my case.

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Saint Sway Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,356	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #38 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:40pm you say tomato.... I say old prune
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #39 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:41pm Well, that is a bad shot, I must say. Especially next to Claudia...
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Saint Sway Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,356	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #40 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 12:45pm She sings like an angel. An angel that smokes 7 packs a day.
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FotiniD Rocks Off Regular Offline ROCC & RO..ll... Posts: 998 Athens, Greece Gender:	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #41 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 1:27pm What's with all the bitterness Saint Sway? OK, so you don't like her, you've made your point. Will a series of repetitive posts make it any clearer?
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platter Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #42 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 5:00pm Quote: Well, that is a bad shot, I must say. Especially next to Claudia... any woman looks like shit next to claudia. except maybe a man's wife.
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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #43 - May 3^rd, 2009 at 10:26am

Actually Marianne has a fan base, and when I saw her it was a sold out show and only a few people that were there post here! So obviously she draws a crowd, whether its out of curiosity, talent, nastalgia or her Stones-connection. I went out of curiosity and Stones-connection, and it was a satisfying show and I was entertained by her. That's all a concert is, an evening of entertainment, and every artist offers a different flavor, so each show cannot be the absolute favorite artist of choice, like THE STONES! You get out of it what there is to offer and it takes your mind off the troubles and strife of real life for a few hours as you enjoy a night out!

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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #44 - May 3^rd, 2009 at 10:51am

for my baby sway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N_rNz2oAGA

not half bad, i'd say. sure, her voice is haggard and worn, but so is dylan's and tom waits's too. sway, do you think they sing like they smoke 7 packs a day?

that being said, sway has a point...had she not boinked mick and started a side hobby of being found naked wrapped in rugs, would anyone remember her? most likely not.

BUT...like jane asher, she did have a name before she hooked up with a rock star.

CBS News "Sunday Morning" did a story on her this morning. cool story. check out the photo montage:

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/sunday/main3445.shtml

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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #45 - May 3^rd, 2009 at 10:53am

Bitch wrote on May 3^rd, 2009 at 10:26am:

True. The night I saw her it was the most un rock n roll/Stones-like crowd I've ever seen at any concert. I didnt know there were so many people like THAT where I live. It was like being at the Royal Variety Performance. All that was missing was John Lennon asking them to 'rattle your jewellery'.

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Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24
Reply #46 - May 3^rd, 2009 at 10:59am

Starbuck wrote on May 3^rd, 2009 at 10:51am:

Had you asked that question prior to 1979, I'd have agreed with you. Her career was all but over for the decade after she split up with Mick. However, since her comeback with 'Broken English', she's pretty much stood on her own two feet. She doesnt need the Stones to eek out an existence as an artist. She's been in the public eye for 45 years - her relationship with the Stones took up, what, 6 years of that?

Its the MEDIA who keep going on about her relationship with the Stones ad nauseam any time she releases a record or performs. Its their problem that their knowledge of some artists' music is minimal and that they cant get beyond the 60's. Most people in the real world have moved on.

In a way she's in a similar situation to Bill Wyman. If she's doing an interview and there are 25 questions and three of them are related to the Rolling Stones, they will be the ones that get highlighted and taken out of context to suit the agenda of the interviewer.

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glencar Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #47 - May 3^rd, 2009 at 5:04pm Well, she did have Keith guest on the latest albim. I recorded the CBS interview this am but haven't watched it yet.
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platter Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #48 - May 3^rd, 2009 at 7:23pm Quote: Well, she did have Keith guest on the latest albim. I recorded the CBS interview this am but haven't watched it yet. i saw this too. it was on the program on ch#2 hosted by charles osgood...right?
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Marianne Faithfull @ Town Hall, NYC 9/24 Reply #49 - May 4^th, 2009 at 3:26pm Yes, the reporter for the piece was Antony Mason who seemed enthralled by her. It was nicely done & I'm 100% sure that part of the performance was from The Winery show that Bitch & I attended because I'll never forget that tongue swirl.
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