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I Think They Are....   ....from Ian (Read 15,770 times)
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Reply #25 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 2:42pm
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Gazza wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:51am:
A new record contract indicates new material backed by a tour sooner rather than later, but I honestly feel that the template they've followed since 1989 is history. ABB was a farewell victory lap for many parts of the world. Their egoes wont allow them to start halving ticket prices and with the way things are going, next tour is IMO more likely to be much shorter, playing smaller venues (ie almost exclusively arenas) and almost all in 'major' markets. If they play far-flung parts of the world at all, IMO it's more likely to be places like Dubai where people have more money than sense as opposed to South America or Eastern Europe. If they intend to slavishly chase another record grossing at all costs like before, they'll get a rude awakening.



In a way, ABB would have been the perfect way to end their careers. They played the Superbowl, had the highest grossing and longest-lasting tour ever, played to a crowd of over a million in Rio, had one of the greatest directors in the world do a fantastic documentary for them, received positive show reviews everywhere except Sweden...

It was an incredible 2 years when you think about it.
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Reply #26 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 3:29pm
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Indeed, this will be a comedown of sorts.
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Reply #27 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 3:32pm
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Starbuck wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 2:12pm:
my sources are telling me there is a new stones album in the works...to be out in time for christmas.

"dirty work....naked"

That'd be nice, bro! I just finished listening to Winning Ugly aka Winning Joey & it was much better w/o all that overproduction.
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Reply #28 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 3:39pm
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i was thinking about this today for a bit.  i am being patient.  heck, they just released the live cd's and the dvd so they will let that settle and sell for awhile.
i give them about a year and then something should start to brew.

Are you fucking serious?
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Reply #29 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 3:42pm
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That's what I think too!
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Reply #30 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 5:13pm
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Maybe the Stones just aren't all that inspired anymore. Its just all so much easier to line up and salute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfXHi1oqEY
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Reply #31 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:01pm
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Holden Wrote:

"In a way, ABB would have been the perfect way to end their careers. They played the Superbowl, had the highest grossing and longest-lasting tour ever, played to a crowd of over a million in Rio, had one of the greatest directors in the world do a fantastic documentary for them, received positive show reviews everywhere except Sweden...

It was an incredible 2 years when you think about it. "

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Yes. I thought the same thing. Especially with the over all acclaim of ABB as a studio effort ...being back to basics and harder core and all, with most fans really digging the hell out of it.

However, they are doing what they always have ...their rolling on. A new avenue and direction is being taken as has taken place in between contracts, and after an certain era as before. Even at their age they continue and carry on into the next venture as they always have. It is quite amazing.


This new contract is not all about re-hashing their old stuff, or getting things out of the vaults. Although some of that is definitely in place.

The new record contract is about carrying on, putting out albums, and continuing as a band. They are planning to tour next year. Even Woody has recently stated this while in Rehab. Mick, Charlie, and Keith have all said specifically, within the past four months or that there will be more tours and more Rolling Stones albums as normal with the intention of putting things together right after the ending of the promotional work for SAL.

Mick did a greatest hits thing instead of an all brand new solo album.  SAL, then after SAL came the  brand new record contract. A tour is tentatively planned for next year.

**The last time it has been this quiet with Stones sightings was exactly four years ago when they were working on ABB (which, by the way, at that time I was in this very argument over the same issue regarding those sessions and the probability of a new album then..........after which, the fact was passed over as simply being blind luck...).

If you simply look at their comments, the current timing, and the most recent events ...it really isn't that hard to figure out. In fact, there is nothing to figure out. Geez, each of them they have came right out and said it! Now they are out of sight. Why would anyone choose to ignore the fact that just maybe, yes, maybe their is a reason for the "lucrative" new record contract. There is a reason for their recent comments. Their is a reason it is reported some stage musicians are told to keep 2009 free. It really isn't that hard boys and girls.

Look, every tour we go through this very same argument here. One of these times you will be right on. But NOTHING is pointing to that now. If there was even any evidence of them cooling it right now I would not shut my eyes and ears off to it. There is none. In fact everything is pointing completely in the other direction. Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, it IS what it IS and they are carrying on (even at their age) as they always have, and are planning to tour next year, and are writing/recording since the clock is ticking for 2009. This pattern is not exactly unheard of. 

Mark my words. They are working on a new album as we type.


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Reply #32 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:14pm
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"Mark my words. They are working on a new album as we type."


I dunno. The Stones can tend to be lazy boys.   But they've earned the right I guess. If it will make you feel any better I don't think Kid Rock isn't gonna retire anytime soon.

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Reply #33 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:32pm
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Yes indeed. Bet on it. Take it to the bank. Do whatever you have to.

Mark my words. They are working on a new album as we type.


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Reply #34 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:42pm
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Ian Billen wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:32pm:
Yes indeed. Bet on it. Take it to the bank. Do whatever you have to.

Mark my words. They are working on a new album as we type.


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Reply #35 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:49pm
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Ian Billen wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:01pm:
**The last time it has been this quiet with Stones sightings was exactly three years ago when they were working on ABB


Exactly three years ago ABB was already in the can.

On 9/3/05 The Stones were doing a show in Moncton, New Brunswick.
ABB was released the following Tuesday.

If the Stones are planning on doing anything in 09, there's no need to apply such gravitas to their writing songs together "as we type".

IMO the big news will be when/if they actually go into the studio.
Mick and Keith can vet each other's ideas and the band can lay down tracks for the next album.

Tour to follow, of course... Grin
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Reply #36 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 7:07pm
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Exactly three years ago ABB was already in the can.

On 9/3/05 The Stones were doing a show in Moncton, New Brunswick.
ABB was released the following Tuesday.

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That part is my fault. I corrected it in my original post. I meant four years ago and not three.


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Reply #37 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 7:13pm
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Some Guy wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:42pm:
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:32pm:
Yes indeed. Bet on it. Take it to the bank. Do whatever you have to.

Mark my words. They are working on a new album as we type.


Ian



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.....and I like it....Stones is Stones.....but Ian is right about one thing.....the Stones are writing as we speak... and that's a good thing.  Wow!
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Reply #38 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 7:28pm
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Ian Billen wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 7:07pm:
I meant four years ago and not three.


If they were working on anything at this time four years ago it was the overdubs for 'Live Licks'...
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Reply #39 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 8:03pm
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Left Shoe Shuffle,

As I understand it Mick and Keith started writing for ABB the late summer of 2004 (August 04) in the Caribbean together.   


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Reply #40 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 8:17pm
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The Golden Age is over Ian, Just salute and shut up. Theres no new songs anymore.  Just minless conformity. No revolution, no rebellion....just mindless conformity. One size fits all. It's time to leave. 

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.....and I like it....Stones is Stones.....but Ian is right about one thing.....the Stones are writing as we speak... and that's a good thing.



Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 8:17pm:
The Golden Age is over Ian, Just salute and shut up. Theres no new songs anymore.


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Reply #42 - Sep 3rd, 2008 at 8:37pm
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Ian Billen wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 at 6:32pm:
Yes indeed. Bet on it. Take it to the bank. Do whatever you have to.

Mark my words. They are working on a new album as we type.


Ian




So, the new Streets Of Love is already in the can as we type? 
you made a grown man cry
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Maine Motels is trying to make IanBillen look sensible and...IT'S WORKING!!!!!
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I spent some time this week end thinking about a future with no new Stones.It wasnt pretty and made me feel really old.Even idle speculation is better than the finality of the end.............
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Reply #45 - Sep 4th, 2008 at 9:26am
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rumoured new album title- The Glimmer Tunes
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Reply #46 - Sep 4th, 2008 at 10:02am
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IAN- YOU ARE NUTTIER THAN A SHITHOUSE RAT.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU START MAKING THESE BULLSHIT SUPPOSITIONS THAT YOU CONVINCE YOURSELF ARE FACTS!

MICK IS NOT WORKING WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO THE STONES AT THE MOMENT .HE IS INVOLVED WITH HIS MOVIE "THE WOMEN",COMING OUT SOON.
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Reply #47 - Sep 4th, 2008 at 1:21pm
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"We've hit a rich songwriting vein. It gets a bit dark down here but looks like we've found diamonds not coal. I thought a while back we might have the album wrapped by now, but why come up above ground now if there's more priceless stuff to be found? ... I'm always the one who underestimates how easy it is to simply 'put out the songs now.' If it was just up to me they'd be out already! But early next year people will be able to start hearing what we've been doing. We want 2009 to be our year, so we're going to start making an impression very early on."
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Reply #48 - Sep 4th, 2008 at 1:36pm
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IAN- YOU ARE NUTTIER THAN A SHITHOUSE RAT.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU START MAKING THESE BULLSHIT SUPPOSITIONS THAT YOU CONVINCE YOURSELF ARE FACTS!

MICK IS NOT WORKING WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO THE STONES AT THE MOMENT .HE IS INVOLVED WITH HIS MOVIE "THE WOMEN",COMING OUT SOON.


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Where do you get the notion he is working on a film currently? My suppositions are more fact than suppositions.


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I spent some time this week end thinking about a future with no new Stones.It wasnt pretty and made me feel really old.Even idle speculation is better than the finality of the end.............


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