Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
It is not a "deduction".
well, its certainly not a 'fact' ("My suppositions are more fact than suppositions.)
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
Secondly, just because the media is not exposed to it means nothing.
It also means that you dont have
any insight into what theyre doing either because you dont have a single
fact to base your 'suppositions' on.
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Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
Look at The Bigger Bang Sessions. The same thing was said then. We had no word that Mick, Keith, and Charlie (and some times Ronnie) were writing/working together at Mick's, or the Carribbean.
Not true. I distinctly remember a thread on this board in the summer of 2004 that it had been reported that the Stones were recording in Mick's house..this was even before the story broke about Charlie's cancer. Check the archives. It turned out to be a very brief get together without much details emerging of any recordings being made.
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
There was no mention of Keith flying to France.
Wrong
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
There was no mention of anything, until months after the fact.
Wrong
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
Then the news started coming in. We had no idea where they were for months.
Wrong.
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
During those months they were working on ABB together. So just because it has not been officially, or unofficially reported yet means zilch.
Wrong
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
"Oh, that plus the fact that they have - with very few exceptions - barely written songs prior to being in a studio for most of the last 35 years."
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Really... That is news to me and probably all of us??. They usually start writing in the Caribbean and places like that.
No they dont. They work on songs that for the most part they had already started separately. You'll be telling me next that Keith flew to Australia in 1969 to co-write 'Brown sugar'.
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
They have been doing that for 20 years. Was Mick's house a studio?
I was unaware that he was forbidden from writing/recording at home without Keith being there. So, youre saying that the numerous songs on ABB that were originally written for "Alfie" or around that period (eg Streets of Love, Laugh i Nearly Died, Biggest Mistake etc) were written with Keith? Rubbish.
Ian Billen wrote on Sep 5
th, 2008 at 1:04pm:
Are you sure you wrote what you meant? Because that is not true at all?
No..its true. Mick and Keith for the most part (I did specify 'with very few exceptions') havent written together much since the early 70s, around the time when they ceased to live close to each other (in the late 60s they both lived in Cheyne Walk in London). 'Steel Wheels' for example was a rare case of them spending a couple lof weeks together and creating songs from scratch (although there were also several songs which pre-dated that songwriting session, such as "Almost hear you sigh' which Keith had cut for 'Talk is cheap'). Generally, they write separately, then get together and work on what they have. they may occasionally write something together from the start, but its not that common. How the hell can you write together with someone who lives 3,000 miles away and who you see maybe once a year when theres no touring activity? Are you suggesting they dont write until such a time when they make a date to get together? Nonsense. Both of them have studios in their home. Thats the whole point of having home studios - so you can write and demo stuff as and when the inspiration comes to you. I know a few people who have been lucky enough to be in Keith's basement studio in recent years while he's been working on songs. He hardly needs Mick's input to do that.
You might find this page informative. To sum it up, it doesnt exactly suggest that Mick and Keith grind out songs together from scratch Brill Building style. Nor did Lennon and McCartney of course.
http://www.timeisonourside.com/songwriting.html#THE%20CRAFT%20AND%20THE