Con el fin de aclarar algo que el otro día también me llamó la atención, me acordé que recientemente
"alguien" (no me acordaba quién) me había preguntado que por qué mencionaba el ego y narcicismo Argentino. Me metí al foro para ponerlo aquí ya que pensé que todavía podría haber alguien con ese idea.
Usé la versión "SEARCH" y encontré nada menos y nada más que era el mismísimo
Luchostones, por lo que siento que él no vio esa respuesta ya que ayer inisitió en el mismo asunto cuando según yo ya estaba aclarado.
LO VUELVO A PONER: No fui yo sino una referencia explicita a un artículo al que incluso critiqué.
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ESTE ES LETRA POR LETRA MI ACLARACIÓN:
La pueden ver tal como se puso en este bloque
http://rocksoff.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4762&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=argentines&start=25
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Gerardo en varios posts tuyos he visto que nombras bastante al "ego Argentino" y otra es la de "la gente se robó el show".....frase que me parece un tanto desafortunda.....
Mi querido Lucho, no soy yo el que lo mencionó, yo definitivamente no lo he dicho generalizado, si te fijas mi mensaje original fue el siguiente:
Ese es el punto en que el artículo acerca de los Argentinos que pusieron en Rocks Off, el ego Argentino los hace querer ser parte del show e incluso robárselo
A continuación les pongo el artículo original sin cambios y lo dejo completo con todo y link y con "bold" en el texto de referencia
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/entertainment/music/features/article_1033023.phpMusic: It's only rock 'n' roll, but Argentines really like it
By LAUREN SMILEY
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina Aging rockers, you can live your glory days over and over again. But you'll have to come back here: Argentina is the country where fans really rock.
After years of skipping over this rock-crazy South American country where the peso hit bottom in 2001, the big concert acts - aging and not-so-aging acts - are again venturing back to Argentina. The Rolling Stones and U2 just made the stop. Others are on the way.
Argentina, a rock-steeped culture with an overlooked and pent-up fan base, is letting these rockers know they know how to be fans.
The result is a South American fountain of youth, driving aging and not-so-aging rockers back to their prime - lighter-flicking fans, folks shinnying up light poles and others swaying and singing along to every lyric. And what about the women shucking off shirts and doing more than just the Wave?
Big names
Even Bono was impressed when he stopped here a few days ago for two sold-out U2 concerts at a soccer stadium.
"The world needs to know that Argentina is as passionate about music as soccer," he announced as he soaked up the good vibrations before performing to a wild throng of 70,000. It was U2's first concert here in eight years.
In the same stadium last week, the Stones had it even rowdier. "We missed you a lot," Mick Jagger told a crowd that writhed as if one flesh.
In the audience: some 5,000 gate-crashers who surged past the ticket takers and security guards, busting through to ogle their idols for the first time since the Stones played here in 1998. Guitarist Keith Richards knelt to the standing ovation of some 67,000 fans singing "Ole! Ole! Ole! Ole! Ree-chard! Ree-chard!"
In November, when Pearl Jam played Buenos Aires for the first time to 30,000 fans singing every lyric, Eddie Vedder exclaimed: "I think this is the greatest audience we've ever had."
The Red Hot Chili Peppers were one of the few acts to visit after the 2001 crisis, when rioting, supermarket looting and a revolving door of five presidents in two weeks pushed Argentina to the brink of financial collapse. They came in 2002, but otherwise the pickings were slim.
Now, as the economy crawls back and fans in Buenos Aires can afford pricey tickets again, the "Paris of the South" has morphed into a must-stop stopover for top-grossing tours. Santana and Oasis are on the way. The local media are feverishly speculating whether Madonna may come.
Antonio Otoya, 34, who flew in from Peru for U2's concerts, took in the screaming fans outside the hotel where Bono and The Edge holed up. Such bedlam, he said, would never happen in Peru.
"Only in Argentina. They're so passionate," Otoya said.
What's to explain it all? Argentines not only love their rock idols, but love to be loved by them, says Fabio Lacolla, a rock-band psychologist and expert in group dynamics.
"The audience in Argentina is much more narcissistic than other audiences," Lacolla said. "The Argentines want to share center stage with the artists."That an artist says that the Argentine audience is marvelous says, in a way, that we exist."
Aging bands, young fans
Here, rock - as opposed to the salsa or reggaeton that dominates some other Latin American countries - continues to be a hot ticket, supported by a 40-year-old national rock movement.
With the influx of foreign music after the end of the military dictatorship in the mid-1980s, the working class connected with the red-blooded Stones lyrics, while university students and professionals connected with the political message of U2, Lacolla says.
But there's also an irony between fan base and band, as evidenced by the vigils outside the tony hotel suite where both the Stones and U2 have stayed while on tour here.
Bono, a champion of eradicating poverty in the Third World, signed T-shirts and made hotel balcony appearances as middle-class Argentines with handbags and wraparound glasses cheered him. He recorded the scene with a camcorder and camera phones.
The Stones mostly stayed shut in all week at their hotel. Outside, rowdy masses - most of them teenagers - banged drums, chanted soccer anthems, climbed manicured trees for a better view, waved homemade Stones flags and swigged spiked soft drinks.
While Stones die-hards in other parts of the world have aged along with Jagger, here the band is prized in large part by angst-y youth. Called "rolingas," the teens hail from working-class neighborhoods of Buenos Aires and wear blunt bangs and shaggy hair reminiscent of Jagger's 1970's 'do.
Old-school fans - called "Estones" in Spanglish - have been around as long as the band has; the "rolinga" movement gained steam in the past decade with the rise of many local Stones-style bands.
Among the working class, some say, affinity for rock is matched only by affinity for soccer. Listen, for example, to Silvil Spadafora, 37, who has his own U2 tribute show on the radio and said, "The Stones are a religion. U2 is a devotion."
"Here, it's soccer and rock 'n' roll," Spadafora said. "You're born with a soccer ball and at 8 years old, you put on your headphones with rock music. And the fans are the same - defending their favorites to the death."
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