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WaiteringOnAFiend Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,595	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #75 - May 15^th, 2022 at 10:34am Gazza said "the brief 'alright Margaret?' shout out to Margaret Trudeau before 'Around and Around' on LYL has been edited out here." Or was it added to LYL?. Did it not originally sound 'dodgy'? Or is there an existing boot with it on?
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Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977!
Reply #76 - May 15^th, 2022 at 11:11am

There's no bootleg source to compare it to. All thats previously circulated was the four LYL songs ('Rooster is from 4/3/77, the others are 5/3/77) plus a soundboard of 7 other songs taken from both nights (of those, 'Crazy mama' is cut and 'Worried about you' and 'LSTNT' come from 4th March - the first two of those 3 songs are on the new album).

The rest of the dialogue on LYL before 'around & around' - ('everything alright in the critics section?' etc) was left in. They've omitted the shoutout to Margaret Trudeau. It always seemed like part of the show to me.

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Reply #77 - May 15^th, 2022 at 1:27pm

Gazza wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 11:11am:

There's no bootleg source to compare it to. All thats previously circulated was the four LYL songs ('Rooster is from 4/3/77, the others are 5/3/77) plus a soundboard of 7 other songs taken from both nights (of those, 'Crazy mama' is cut and 'Worried about you' and 'LSTNT' come from 4th March - the first two of those 3 songs are on the new album).

The rest of the dialogue on LYL before 'around & around' - ('everything alright in the critics section?' etc) was left in. They've omitted the shoutout to Margaret Trudeau. It always seemed like part of the show to me.

Tactful. Grin

I think it was either overdubbed or flown in from the first night - In addition to being its own flabbergastingly good self, this release sheds a lot of light into how much care went into distilling the essence of the El Mocambo vibe on side three of LYL. I have always laughed at that guy yelling "SIT DOWN!" after Around and Around - it's always been such a cool way to end the side of an album. But he shows up much earlier here, he was clearly stuck on at the end intentionally.

After 35 years of listening to the LYL version a not inconsiderable amount, reading the Flippo book over and over and soaking up everything I could about this gig, I'd halfway convinced myself that the tapes were either fucked up or unable to live up to their legend. Incredible to have the myth turned into reality. Best Stones release since the Houston video.

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Gazza Unholy Trinity Admin Offline Rat Bastid "We piss anywhere, man.." Posts: 13,231 Belfast, UK Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #78 - May 15^th, 2022 at 5:03pm Interesting. Yeah, some of the between song banter is edited in from different parts of the show on LYL. I did read that Margaret was at both shows, so anything's possible. The weird minutiae that gets debated, eh?
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Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977!
Reply #80 - May 16^th, 2022 at 10:58am

Gazza wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 5:03pm:

The weird minutiae that gets debated, eh? Grin

This is literally the only place I know of where I could come back and say "They moved the 'sit down!' guy!" and someone else might actually find it interesting.

This release is also such a fitting tribute to our beloved great dear departed jazz drummer, whose performance is maybe even better than usual.

I can hardly listen to the breakdown on Dance Little Sisterwithout getting a lump in my throat and watery eyes.

you made a grown man cry

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Reply #81 - May 18^th, 2022 at 3:22am

Nasty Habits wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 1:23am:

leonid wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 12:01am:

When a Stones release prompts Nasty Habits to make an appearance, you know it’s a good release. You rock!

Pretty damn good for a bunch of low down hustlers playing the alley all night.

It’s incredible from start to finish. Literally jaw dropping. And it keeps getting better every time I listen to it.

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Goo Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,042 USA Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #83 - May 23^rd, 2022 at 11:52am Truly amazing, great release……..need downunder Australia 73 next …..gives me faith that they must have some killer tapes unreleased
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Paranoid Android Rocks Off Regular Offline The Rocks Off Ladies Rule You Bastards!! Posts: 6,344 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #84 - May 24^th, 2022 at 11:44am I listen to that Crazy Mama...and it certainly does not sound like Taylor is missed at all. Hot Stuff sounds exactly as it should, filthy, nasty and seedy.
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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland Unholy Trinity Admin Offline The Stones are back you bastards!!!! Posts: 17,957 Wonderland Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #85 - May 24^th, 2022 at 5:43pm As mentioned previously... The band billed at the top of the bill, who later was the opening act released the live album in 1977, the year of the shows
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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland Unholy Trinity Admin Offline The Stones are back you bastards!!!! Posts: 17,957 Wonderland Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #86 - May 24^th, 2022 at 5:54pm Our "Miscellaneous Non-Tour Concerts" (setlist and much more) section of Rocks Off was updated with the release of "El Mocambo" http://rocksoff.org/miscnontour.htm
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #87 - May 24^th, 2022 at 6:06pm Paranoid Android wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 11:44am: I listen to that Crazy Mama...and it certainly does not sound like Taylor is missed at all. Hot Stuff sounds exactly as it should, filthy, nasty and seedy. Postin' above the rim.
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Goo Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,042 USA Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #88 - May 24^th, 2022 at 6:22pm Listened again today , just marvelous hot stuff great stuff all the black and blue songs are great
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Goo Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,042 USA Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #89 - May 24^th, 2022 at 6:34pm Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 5:54pm: Our "Miscellaneous Non-Tour Concerts" (setlist and much more) section of Rocks Off was updated with the release of "El Mocambo" http://rocksoff.org/miscnontour.htm Awesome read thanks refreshing compared to other web sites
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Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977!
Reply #90 - May 24^th, 2022 at 7:19pm

Goo wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 6:34pm:

Awesome read thanks refreshing compared to other web sites

One of the features is that Gazza made that based (most of the time) on his big and great collection of live recordings (many on cassette tapes) and official releases and of course the references on the main page (soon to be updated in full)

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Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977!
Reply #92 - May 25^th, 2022 at 12:09pm

Goo wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 11:41am:

It’s all about the music!

Hi Goo! Welcome to the asylum.
Feel free to express yourself here...as long as you don't turn it to something of a personal attack, you are free to roam as you wish.
I've tried a few times, but I have not reached that high-water limit, it seems, lol

Did you hit any of the 2019 or 2021 US shows?
Others may have questions for you as well...kick back and stay a while.

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Reply #93 - May 25^th, 2022 at 1:53pm

Yes I saw the band in Washington DC 2019 and Tampa 2021
Both great shows….took extended vacations, Pittsburgh zip code was fun too…..seen about 30 shows since 1981….been a fan since 1978 some Girls release…I have 100s of bootlegs vinyl, cassette, cds , videos & dvds…….love this band!
..been banned from IORR & Shidoobee (I do not know the reason why) hahahahhah
I should’ve come here sooner…….
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Phog Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 21 Allen Fieldhouse Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #94 - May 26^th, 2022 at 8:07pm Gazza wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 9:13pm: Phog wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 6:42pm: This release is pretty damn perfect. So glad they finally put this out. Bloody hell. There's a blast from the past. Welcome back. A blast from the past indeed. Never totally left, good sir. Started a family, etc...
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Brainbell Jangler Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,331 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #95 - May 26^th, 2022 at 8:10pm My preordered copy arrived yesterday. What a treat!!! Enjoy the upcoming shows, my European and globetrotting friends.
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Goo Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,042 USA Gender:	Re: next archive release - El Mocambo 1977! Reply #97 - May 30^th, 2022 at 12:32pm Play this again last night late after dinner after beers after wine The crazy mama and hand of fate r just great…..brought tear to my eye 👁
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Reply #98 - Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 2:19pm

I have been listening to very little music the past few months, but the last couple of weeks is a very different story. El Mocambo almost non stop. Back in the day the boot was cool. I never thought we would get this. Truly sublime and another reminder that the Stones are life, the rest is just details.

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Reply #99 - Jun 16^th, 2022 at 9:01pm

The screamingly hot (and moist) question still remaining this Summer is surely what exactly are the lyrics sung by MJ in the 'extra# verse of Luxury on the ElMo-Lipman Live CD, or whatever it's currently called.
"Blackport / Black porch / Stockport on a Tuesday, and Danny goes to bed, You could feed a poor man on what they throw away....". Then there's a couple of lines possibly written by Stanley Unwin..

What are the exact-ish words of this great musical pumper?
Are the lyrics he lyrics revealed on some'7s Tour bootleg or other, or elsewhere?
And was this song - secondarily at least - about seeing Keith lying hot & sodden on the beach while more serious work was pressing?

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