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Reply #50 - May 12th, 2022 at 10:29am
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Gazza wrote on May 11th, 2022 at 7:22pm:
well, Friday is almost upon us. Got to hear this yesterday and considering its been probably the most desired archive release since they put out Brussels 73 in 2011, it's everything we've ever hoped it would be.

No doubt I'll have more superlatives when I dig into it a few more times but this is YaYas/Brussels level of greatness. The Ronnie era line up of the band never sounded as amazing as this. The performances from everyone and the sound are absolutely stellar.  Why didnt they release THIS as 'Love You Live' instead of filling that album out with lesser performances from the 1976 tour (and with much inferior vocals to boot)?

Do not miss this release.


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Reply #51 - May 12th, 2022 at 2:13pm
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Good God that was a special treat. I miss when the Stones sounded like this.

I really miss Charlie Watts. The man was unreal. It's rare for a drummer to have that much chemistry with the piano. He's playing drums, yet manages to sound melodic. The guy was pure magic.
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Reply #52 - May 12th, 2022 at 2:28pm
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Second listening... this is what they must release, not the same stuff in new formats or with new mixes or whatever. At that speed soon we'll have the Steven Wilson 7.1 Bluray  Audio releases of all the albums

But with more releases like this one (Mocambo) we'll be more than happy
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Reply #53 - May 12th, 2022 at 3:56pm
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This is simply in the creme de la creme of Stones releases. As good as Ya Ya's or Brussels or the Roundhouse and Leeds Lungs Out shows. A scintillating hour and a half from perhaps the last time the band ever sounded truly dangerous. The groove on "Worried Life Blues" is like chocolate, and "Dance Little Sister" is a revelatory monster of a cut that begs for the song to be revived. Best ever "Let's Spend the Night Together," and the one that should've been the pro forma version ever since. Nasty "Jack Flash," the blues cuts, even "Luxury" sounds excellent. Keith is on fire throughout and playing for his life. Mick at his lascivious best. Ronnie coming into his own, and Charlie and Bill holding down the chaos as well as they ever have.

10/10.
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Reply #54 - May 12th, 2022 at 4:19pm
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I could listen to this all day every day.
Among other things, I think it’s got the definitive Crazy Mama.

It’s a wonderful bit of fan service from Mick to get this cleaned up and released.
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Reply #55 - May 12th, 2022 at 4:50pm
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Stoned In Staten Island wrote on May 12th, 2022 at 3:56pm:
This is simply in the creme de la creme of Stones releases. As good as Ya Ya's or Brussels or the Roundhouse and Leeds Lungs Out shows. A scintillating hour and a half from perhaps the last time the band ever sounded truly dangerous. The groove on "Worried Life Blues" is like chocolate, and "Dance Little Sister" is a revelatory monster of a cut that begs for the song to be revived. Best ever "Let's Spend the Night Together," and the one that should've been the pro forma version ever since. Nasty "Jack Flash," the blues cuts, even "Luxury" sounds excellent. Keith is on fire throughout and playing for his life. Mick at his lascivious best. Ronnie coming into his own, and Charlie and Bill holding down the chaos as well as they ever have.

10/10.


I wasnt really sure quite what Ollie Brown added to the shows around this time but his contribution is glorious on this. Billy Preston is in stellar form as well. This was their last ever shows with the band, too. They went out on a high. Stu's ivory tinkling is just perfect too.

I've always thought 'Crackin' Up' was one of the Stones most underrated covers. I know we're familiar with this version from LYL but it sounds even better here. They were obviously listening to 'The Harder They Come' around this time because there's a noticeable musical nod to Desmond Dekker's 'Shanty Town' towards the end of the track and Mick incorporates The Maytals' 'Sweet & Dandy' into the end of 'Tumbling Dice'

And does Mick really sing 'if I ever get back to LA/I'm gonna fuck you dead or alive' in the last verse of 'Starfucker' ?  Grin Grin
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Reply #56 - May 13th, 2022 at 12:53pm
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How The Rolling Stones Set Up Their Secret Toronto Gigs Of 1977


This excerpt from the liner notes to ‘Live At The El Mocambo’ details how the group pulled off a wild secret gig.


Published on May 13, 2022
By Paul Sexton


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In 1977, the Rolling Stones played secret shows over the course of two nights at Toronto’s El Mocambo. Now available officially for the first time, Live At The El Mocambo collects the best of those performances, showcasing the band at the top of their game in the most intimate of settings. In this excerpt from the liner notes to the release, Paul Sexton describes how the band pulled off the secret gig.

As ever when the Rolling Stones blew into any town with a “secret” gig on their minds, the dates at the 300-capacity club known locally as El Mo had to be set up with considerable subterfuge. The smokescreen came in the form of Montreal rock favorites April Wine, who would later make their big international play with such Capitol albums as Harder…Faster and the platinum-selling The Nature of the Beast.

Keeping anything on the down low when it involved the most famous rock ‘n’ roll band in the world was always a challenge… [But] the visit had been scoped out months before, by Mick Jagger and tour manager Peter Rudge. The previous year, they had walked into the city’s bespoke Windsor Arms Hotel, a bolthole for visiting celebrities, as they scouted potential sites for the club idea. Duff Roman, radio personality and executive and a bastion of the Canadian music business, happened to be there too.

“I saw [them] walk in,” he later told the National Post. “I tried to play it cool, and wrote a message on my CHUM FM business card that said, ‘I’m here if you need anything.’ I called the waiter over and had him take it to Mick and Peter’s table. Rudge looked at it first and then Mick wanted to see. After a while, they looked over and I nodded, smiled and pointed. Then they left. It was months before I heard from them again.”

When he did, Rudge asked Roman if he thought he could pull off the events without incurring a media orgy. “I told him that we could,” Roman recalled, “and then started thinking about how we could actually do it without anyone knowing.”

The booker for the venue, Dave Bluestein, came up with the idea of announcing the March shows as by April Wine. A radio contest was organized in which listeners were asked the question “What would you do to see the Rolling Stones play live?” It was a tactic that ensured a full house of real devotees, even if it also prompted the arrival of more than a few nude polaroids. The prize was tickets to see April Wine with an unknown band called the Cockroaches. Guess who.

“We had natural cover,” says Bluestein, “because if anything got out, we could say, ‘No, look, April Wine is playing. That’s the gig. It says so right here. Another band was added to the April Wine shows called the Cockroaches, which was the Stones’ alias. On the day of the first show, the band rehearsed upstairs and soundchecked for the live recording.”

The band had not played live in seven months. They were dealing with a welter of internal issues, including their attempts to prevent the News of the World from publishing images from Robert Frank’s infamous 1972 film Cocksucker Blues. Halfway through rehearsals in Toronto, Mick had to rush to New York, where his daughter Jade had appendicitis. But it was Keith’s debilitating burdens that were most urgent in their minds.

“I can tell you, I cared about Keith, and not just as a work colleague,” said Bill Wyman in his Rolling With The Stones book of 2002. “We had been through so much in the previous 13 years, conquered the world, shared in an adventure the likes of which mere words cannot do justice to. But it was true, Keith didn’t have to live by the rules of normal society…but when all is said and done, it’s Keith’s life.”


On the day of the first El Mocambo date, the Stones arrived for a soundcheck at 4.30pm. Passers-by, catching the echoes of ‘Honky Tonk Women’ or ‘Tumbling Dice,’ no doubt marveled at the authenticity of the Stones covers act that must surely be playing that night. When the band returned for the show, April Wine were naturally now in a support slot that would yield their own Live At The El Mocambo album later that year. Indeed, the cachet of their involvement in this unforgettable moment would earn them their passport to the international stage.

As if the Stones weren’t already occupying enough unwanted column inches, there was more red meat for the media when Margaret Trudeau, Canada’s First Lady and wife of Prime Minister Pierre, turned up for the gig with Mick and Ronnie. This was before the public knew that Trudeaus’ six-year marriage, the anniversary of which they were notably not celebrating together, was in tatters.

Margaret attended both shows, leaping up and down near the mixing desk. Curtains twitched, editors frothed. Back home, News At Ten ran a report. “She just wanted to see the shows, and that’s the end of it,” Mick told the CBC.

[As a result] the cat was out of the bag, and the Cockroaches out in the open, by the second night. “Word had got out,” remembered Bill, “and it was very difficult to get in.” Keith, undoubtedly relieved to escape the press frenzy even for the length of the gig, reflected: “The minute I got onstage, it felt just like another Sunday gig at the Crawdaddy. It immediately felt the same…it was one of those weird things in Toronto. Everybody’s going around talking doom and disaster, and we’re up on stage at the El Mocambo, and we never felt better. I mean, we sounded great.”

To read the full liner notes, including a lengthy description of the second night’s show, buy or stream Live At The El Mocambo.

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Reply #57 - May 13th, 2022 at 1:05pm
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Let's see if I can get it right this time. This release and the 78 tour is Ronnie at his apex as a guitar player. Of course he has been wonderful since and his slide playing is amazing now, but he was marvelous on this and on the 78 tour. He was as good as anyone was at that time and added some real magic to the band.
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Reply #58 - May 13th, 2022 at 2:23pm
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My 2CD arrived today. Right now listening 2nd time. What I hear is exactly why I love those guy's music, their sound and their groove. And their attitude. It's so much fun.
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Reply #59 - May 13th, 2022 at 4:03pm
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Reply #60 - May 13th, 2022 at 6:42pm
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This release is pretty damn perfect.  So glad they finally put this out.
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Reply #61 - May 13th, 2022 at 6:46pm
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Damn- just heard this for the first time!
There are no other bands bar none that can top this release.
Our band is better than yours.
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In case anyone forgot, his magic is all over this:

stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL
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The Wick wrote on May 13th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
In case anyone forgot, his magic is all over this:

stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL


I think is Billy Preston only, based on the intros
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Reply #65 - May 13th, 2022 at 9:01pm
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I always thought he played the boogie woogie type stuff on the blues songs. Billy Preston was magic as well. This is as good as anything they have ever released live.
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Reply #66 - May 13th, 2022 at 9:13pm
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Phog wrote on May 13th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
This release is pretty damn perfect.  So glad they finally put this out.


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Hot Tugs innit?
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Reply #68 - May 13th, 2022 at 9:30pm
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After a few listens, the version of 'Little Red Rooster' here is a different performance to the one on 'Love You Live', so that version is therefore from the 4th March show.

Trying also to compare with the 7 songs that werent on LYL but have appeared on bootlegs, taken from soundboards and acetates. Its not easy but after a quick listen, 'Lets spend the night together' seems to be different so the bootleg version is from the first night also. And obviously, 'Worried about you' on both the bootleg and as a bonus track on the new album are the same version (4th March) as it wasnt played on the second night.

The between song chatter on LYL is taken from the 5th March show, although strangely they seem to have left out the band intros on this release. Weirdly, the brief 'alright Margaret?' shout out to Margaret Trudeau before 'Around and Around' on LYL has been edited out here.

I'm nearly finished updating the setlists page for this site (was just waiting on this release coming out). Would like to see what the exact setlist for night 1 actually was but it remains elusive.
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Reply #69 - May 13th, 2022 at 9:31pm
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CS wrote on May 13th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
The Wick wrote on May 13th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
In case anyone forgot, his magic is all over this:

stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling stu watching how stupid we are LOL


I think is Billy Preston only, based on the intros


The Wick wrote on May 13th, 2022 at 9:01pm:
I always thought he played the boogie woogie type stuff on the blues songs. Billy Preston was magic as well. This is as good as anything they have ever released live.


It sounds like Stu's playing style to me, too. I know that on the 75-76 tour, Stu tended to just sit in on a few songs. The band introductions on LYL (where they dont introduce him either) have been edited out from this release - but - he's there. Seems to be carrying out his role as a roadie in this photo, but he must have played on some songs as the album liner notes credit him as playing piano

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Reply #71 - May 14th, 2022 at 11:59am
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Absolutely stunning release - a revelation.  Perhaps this can pave the way for a full MSG ‘69 release . . .or even Altamont.
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Reply #72 - May 14th, 2022 at 12:49pm
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I need a guitarist to weigh in here: is this fantastic version of Tumblin Dice in ‘Bb’ instead of the usual ‘B’?
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When a Stones release prompts Nasty Habits to make an appearance, you know it’s a good release.  You rock!
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Pretty damn good for a bunch of low down hustlers playing the alley all night. 

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