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ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS
Sep 8^th, 2012 at 10:19am

KING CRIMSON’S ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS, SAYING IT HAS BECOME ‘AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY’
by: Dave Swanson Yesterday

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King Crimson‘s Robert Fripp has granted a rare interview with the UK Financial Times to explain why he has given up on the music business. “I couldn’t concentrate on music, so I made the choice to give up my career as a musician in the front line to deal with the business.”

Apparently, this all stems from a recent altercation with music giant the Universal Group, who recently bought up a series of independent labels that own parts of his back catalog. Fripp believes this action has led to the release of unauthorized releases under his name.

He cites other examples of his music being used without his consent, notably in the Kanye West single ‘Power,’ which freely sampled the King Crimson classic ’21st Century Schizoid Man.’ The video scored one million plays on YouTube before Fripp was reportedly consulted. Fripp has been in a tangled legal dispute with Universal for the past five years, and now refers to his life as a professional musician as “a joyless exercise in futility.”

Over the last few years, the King Crimson catalog has been getting the royal treatment with expanded and deluxe editions. In thinking on his past endeavors, Fripp said “Going back to early King Crimson, the remarkable explosion of the creative impulse came from these young men who didn’t know what they were doing, yet were able to do it.” However, the legendary guitarist and musical visionary thinks this spirit is certainly lacking in the current climate. “What has changed in 40 years? It’s very simple: 40 years ago there was a market economy. Today there is a market society – today everything, including ethics, has a price.”

It shouldn’t all be about money, says Fripp. “Do you believe that Rostropovich was playing a cello just for a living? Do you believe that Hendrix was playing for money? Music is a language in which we can express our struggle with what it is to be a human being. This is at the center of what created King Crimson. Today I remain responsible for that… how can I lie to that? If I do, I cease to be human.”

A multi-disc deluxe edition of the 1973 Crimson classic ‘Larks’ Tongues in Aspic’ is set for release in October and will include 13 CD’s, a DVD and a Blu-Ray disc.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/king-crimson-robert-fripp-quits-music-business/

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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #1 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 10:25am I ,FOR ONE, WILL MISS HIM. MAYBE JOEY COULD FOLLOW HIS LEAD.
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Reply #2 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 10:58am

BILL PERKS wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

I ,FOR ONE, WILL MISS HIM.
MAYBE JOEY COULD FOLLOW HIS LEAD.

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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland Unholy Trinity Admin Online The Stones are back you bastards!!!! Posts: 17,956 Wonderland Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #4 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 11:16am Robert Fripp is one of the best musicians in rock history, creative, innovative, great player, great leader and King Crimson is one of the best bands to see live if you wanna feel the music, but as a person, Robert is very special, he is even nasty with the fans Not happy with the news
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Steel Wheels Rocks Off Regular Offline Much love and support to my dear friend Mary! Posts: 2,686 2,000 Light Years From Home Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #5 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 11:17am Fripp is an asshole. I wish I had the money to decide to leave my "gig" and venture off into other areas. I have no respect or sympathy for him. Fuck him.
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Heart Of Stone Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules Posts: 4,001 Charlottetown Prince Edward Is Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #6 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 12:58pm Well I for one have a lot of respect for Robert Fripp, he's never bought into the media bullshit that goes on, he's just into music period, & one of the finest musicians around, with the industry today I don't blame talented people to just pack it up & play in some club somewhere.
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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,759 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #7 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 2:22pm He's Fripping out over getting screwed by a record company? Gee wonder if thats ever happened before. Bye Bye
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Reply #9 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:07pm

Factory Girl wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Fripp worked with Bowie,no?

Yes, he's the lead guitar on "Heroes", and based on the style I think it was Fripp contribution so the proper credit must be "Bowie-Fripp", he also has played it live with Blondie and his own band King Crimson. Fripp has colaborations in many of Bowie's albums

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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #10 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:41pm WHAT MANY OF THESE OLD DUDES DONT UNDERSTAND IS THAT NOBODY PAYS FOR MUSIC ANYMORE.. ROCK IS AS DEAD AS JOEY'S SOCIAL LIFE.
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Reply #11 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:43pm

I don't think he's "fripping" over, and I never met him so I don't know if he's an asshole. Anyway, I couldn't care less what he is. He was partially responsable for some remarkable albums. In The Court Of The Crimson King, Red, Discipline, Absent Lovers, etc.

"Kanye West"? Isn't he the guy standing next to Austin Powers?

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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #12 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:51pm Here's the link to the Financial Times interview with Fripp: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f588e100-d7ee-11e1-9980-00144feabdc0.html#axzz25ucBQb1...
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Bitch Rocks Off Regular Offline I always get my Rocks Off! Posts: 4,904 FL - USA Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #13 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 4:32pm Not a fan of quitters. Better to try and fix the problems instead of giving up and quitting. The best ideas are due to a necessity to change and offer a solution.
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Reply #14 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 4:44pm

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:51pm:

Here's the link to the Financial Times interview with Fripp: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f588e100-d7ee-11e1-9980-00144feabdc0.html#axzz25ucBQb1...

Thanks EG, in the earlier posts yes, Bowie used Fripp on a lot of those Eno period albums, from that picture in that article he looks like a business man then a Rock guy, but then again Bowie did that too in the latter years when he was performing.

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FPM Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 697 Right here in the USA Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #15 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 4:45pm A guy I know went to one of Fripp's guitar camps back in the 90s...it sounded like a cult. It was in Costa Rica or someplace, and the new students had to serve the older ones...on the first day you were only allowed to play one note...it sounded kinda retarded. http://youtu.be/skBJ4UazDaw
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Reply #16 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 5:12pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Factory Girl wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Fripp worked with Bowie,no?

Yes, he's the lead guitarr on "Heroes", and based on the style I think it was Fripp contribution so the proper credit must be "Bowie-Fripp", he also has played it live with Blondie and his own band King Crimson. Fripp has colaborations in many of Bowie's albums

He also plays much of the lead guitar on the 'Scary Monsters' album. Some of the most incredible playing on any album ever.

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Reply #17 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 5:28pm

Bitch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

Not a fan of quitters. Better to try and fix the problems instead of giving up and quitting. The best ideas are due to a necessity to change and offer a solution.

How can you fix a problem like this? Its like banging your head off a brick wall.

Not a fan of how the music industry - run by people with little interest in music and dominated by the combined anti-christs of Clear Channel, Simon Cowell, Reality Shows and the like - has killed rock music as an art form.

As a 'consumer', the public reaps what it sows. No wonder proper artists give up when confronted with what the industry has become.

Christ knows what its going to be like in 10-20 years when the current generation of veteran artists, who established themselves before the rot set in, have gone.

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Reply #18 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 6:50pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Bitch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

Not a fan of quitters. Better to try and fix the problems instead of giving up and quitting. The best ideas are due to a necessity to change and offer a solution.

How can you fix a problem like this? Its like banging your head off a brick wall.

Not a fan of how the music industry - run by people with little interest in music and dominated by the combined anti-christs of Clear Channel, Simon Cowell, Reality Shows and the like - has killed rock music as an art form.

As a 'consumer', the public reaps what it sows. No wonder proper artists give up when confronted with what the industry has become.

Christ knows what its going to be like in 10-20 years when the current generation of veteran artists, who established themselves before the rot set in, have gone.

IT'S GONNA SUCK WHEN KID ROCK THROWS IN THE TOWEL.

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Reply #19 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Bitch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

Not a fan of quitters. Better to try and fix the problems instead of giving up and quitting. The best ideas are due to a necessity to change and offer a solution.

How can you fix a problem like this? Its like banging your head off a brick wall.

Not a fan of how the music industry - run by people with little interest in music and dominated by the combined anti-christs of Clear Channel, Simon Cowell, Reality Shows and the like - has killed rock music as an art form.

As a 'consumer', the public reaps what it sows. No wonder proper artists give up when confronted with what the industry has become.

Christ knows what its going to be like in 10-20 years when the current generation of veteran artists, who established themselves before the rot set in, have gone.

IT'S GONNA SUCK WHEN KID ROCK THROWS IN THE TOWEL.

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corgi37 Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,559 Aussie land Gender:	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #21 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 8:15pm To this very day, i have not even heard 1 second of any King Crimson song (to the best of my knowledge).
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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: ROBERT FRIPP QUITS MUSIC BUSINESS Reply #22 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 8:48pm corgi37 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2012 at 8:15pm: To this very day, i have not even heard 1 second of any King Crimson song (to the best of my knowledge). ME NEITHER,I JUST KNOW THEY WERE AT HYDE PARK 69. BILL PERKS WYMAN TOLD ME.
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Reply #23 - Sep 8^th, 2012 at 9:14pm

I've been drinking tonight. Fuck this guy. This is a god damned Rolling Stones messageboard. I could give two flying fucks about any other musician. I see there's a god damned Springsteen thread here too. I'm here for the Rolling Stones.

Let this jerk off retire and nobody will care. Its not like he's B.B. King or Eric Clapton. Name me one riff this guy does that compares to Keef's Tumblin' Dice or those sexy as hell riffs he plays in Love is Strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te6VBiRjhqA

This is the kind of stuff women like. I'm not listening to a science book. You can't get laid to King Crimson. At all. Panties are not pulled down during a Robert Fripp performance.

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