1) Why does Keith seem to have such a, if you will, grudge against Brian Jones after all this time? He seems to have grown to dislike him more as the years have gone by even though Brian's been gone so long--Like he's never been able to forgive Brian.

2) Did the Stones ever meet with or comment on Jim Morrison, The Doors in general, Aerosmith or Guns N' Roses? Guns I know they met when GN'R opened for them in 1989 but during that period did any of the Stones ever comment on them--At time it seemed like GN'R was set to be the Stones of a new generation.

In Danny Sugarman's book, "No One Here, Gets Out Alive"...he recalls asking Jim for tickets to the Stones show in LA...Morrison playfully (?) asked him "what does Jagger have that I don't?"...Danny Sugarman was the kid (12 years old!!) always hanging around and head of the Doors' fan club...later to become their 2nd manager...or maybe road manager... ...as the story goes...Jim got Sugarman the tickets...no problem...
I don't know if there is any relation to the two having had met...but a great story anyway!!

Coincidental, for your question...Sugarman also wrote a GnR bio "Appetite For Destruction: The Days of Guns N' Roses"...you may find your answers in both of these books.

I loved the Doors book...read it twice...due again for a read, I think...never read the GnR book

I recall Keith being quoted as saying that he doesn't really recollect meeting Morrison, though they could've perhaps once crossed paths in 'in a  smokey night club' Of course, this could all just be in Honky Tonk Man's imagination, here! One myth Keith has shot down was the one regarding Morrison meeting them in the south of France during the recording of Exile. Morison was, of course, in Paris at this time.

As for Keith's attitude towards Brian? Meh, who's ever going to really know? Things certainly soured once Anita left Brian for Keith and relations worsened from there on. What I don't get is Keith's bitching about Brian in the early years, when the pair were surely getting on.

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 5:09pm:


Yes, he was. And in a hole in the ground at Pere-Lachaise cemetery at that!

The Stones started recording 'Exile' mid-July. Morrison died on 3rd July and was secretly buried a few days later.

As for Mick's reaction to Morrison, I remember reading he saw The Doors Hollywood bowl concert, & found Jim's performance boring, this was in '68 sometime, Mick was in L.A. for something, if I did a google I could probably find it, it was in Circus magazine, which was one of the few Rock mags at the time.

Posted on a site about The Doors.
When Jim and the Doors performed at the Hollywood Bowl Jims mood and performance was a little below the usual high-energy performance he would deliver. It turned out that Mick Jagger was sitting next to his girl Pamela in the audience. Even though Jim tried very hard it caught him off guard for that evenings performance since it was Micks first time to see a live Doors performance.
http://www.thedoors.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19783

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 6:38pm:



I know, but we've heard all this before. I understand how difficult Brian could be. But, in the beginning...and a couple of times after that, it was Keith and Brian closer-than-this and Mick feeling left out. And if you look at interviews with Keith not long after Brian died, he sounds sad, melancholic....not always saying "Hey Brian was a great guy" and stuff, but not bashing him and minimizing his importance {he founded the band, fer goodness sake!} and his musical abilities. It all now just sounds like comments of a bitter, grumpy,  maybe jealous/guilty in a way? 67 year old guy.....it's sad, cuz I think, over the years, Keith has convinced himself he feels this way...

Sioux wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 8:18am:


I think sometimes people get mad at people they're angry at for dying before they could have some closure on their relationship, and thus as the years go by it intensifies whatever bad feelings were there when the person died.

For example...My grandparents separated bitterly in 1968 cause my grandpa had cheated and they were in court for the next few years. My grandpa suffered a moderate (but not disabling in any way) stroke in 1973 and was forced (due to lack of money/anyplace else to live) to move back into my grandmother's house, but they didn't and never got back together; he just lived there because he had nowhere else to go. It was an odd environment since my grandmother's boyfriend (step-grandpa) also lived in the house at the same time, as did my mother and aunt.

While before their break up they had had vicious fights, and had deep bitterness between them due to their break up in '68, they were very civil in this period post 1973, my grandmother would even do favors for him like cashing his checks for him and even defend him when my aunt would act nasty toward him, but they never talked much otherwise. My grandpa died suddenly in 1975, two years after moving back home, and my grandmother is much more bitter and hateful toward him now with him long gone than she ever was when he was alive...Almost like she's mad at him for dying without them ever having closure and probably with a lot of questions she had unanswered and without her being able to make peace and say things she might've wanted to say.

When you have five people working so closely, and so intensly for such a long period of time, all this stuff is inevitable. The miracle is that the band has survived this long.