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Tour reinvention
Jul 6^th, 2009 at 8:02pm

what about the Stones reinvent the tour.
Instead of Mick and co trying to 'out-do' the previous shows and get bigger and bigger - why dont they pare it back and play smaller and more acoustic.

Get back to the music, strip it down, listening to that Fool To Cry out take again reminds how well the band can play, and not all tracks have to be loud belters.
They have the songs thats for sure.

Oh, yer and Mick - dropping the red confetti at the end is still OK in my books.

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platter Ex Member	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #1 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 8:11pm one or 2 songs maybe, but i think it would bore people in the stadiums. the i'm free and as tears go by on the shine a light dvd was just about perfect. i don't think the stones will world tour in clubs where your idea would work.
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Edith Grove Agent Provocateur Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #2 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 8:17pm I'd like to see them do a few shows like this in select large-market cities, just can't see it happening for an entire tour. The "casual fan/general public" will always want the hear the songs they hear on commercial radio.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #3 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 8:53pm Do they even hear those songs as much on the radio? I think taking a page from Daethgod's playbook is promising.
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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #4 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 9:06pm

play for the fans of the band

not for the corporates or peeps who wanna say they were at a Stones gig

shows for the millions like us who 'get' what the band is about.

cmon Mick - 'celebrate the catalogue'

Worried About you
Fool To Cry
Coming Down Again
Slave
Winter
Moonlight Mile
Tops
Almost Hear You Sigh
Beast of Burden
The Worst
You Gotta Move
No Expectations
Shake Ya Hips
Waiting On a Friend
Salt of the Earth
Just My Imagination
Wild Horses
If you really wanna be my friend
Memory Motel

as they get older it makes more sense - less prancing about, less waving and showing off - play the songs guys.

"Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
I'll be thinking of you "

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Bingo Rocks Off Regular Offline Exiled from IORR Posts: 942 Gender:	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #5 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 9:23pm Hot Stuff Parachute Woman Dancin w/Mr. D Citadel Heaven 2000 light years CYHMK Fingerprint File Beast of Burden I got the Blues Jigsaw Puzzle Rocks Off All Down the Line Slave Hand of Fate Stray Cat Blues The Last Time Encore: Let it Bleed
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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #6 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 9:58pm

Deathgod wrote on Jul 6^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

play for the fans of the band

not for the corporates or peeps who wanna say they were at a Stones gig

shows for the millions like us who 'get' what the band is about.

cmon Mick - 'celebrate the catalogue'

Worried About you
Fool To Cry
Coming Down Again
Slave
Winter
Moonlight Mile
Tops
Almost Hear You Sigh
Beast of Burden
The Worst
You Gotta Move
No Expectations
Shake Ya Hips
Waiting On a Friend
Salt of the Earth
Just My Imagination
Wild Horses
If you really wanna be my friend
Memory Motel

as they get older it makes more sense - less prancing about, less waving and showing off - play the songs guys.

"Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
I'll be thinking of you "

I'd like to see some more recent songs.

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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #7 - Jul 6^th, 2009 at 10:05pm

Can the stones still play that well? I'd love to see an intimate or fairly intimate gig or tour, btu i dont think they - im looking at keith in particular - can do it, they need to hide behind the shine and spectacle, at least thats how i see it, i wish they could do small gigs, although the tickets would be imposisble to get

and they'll never do 'one for the real fans' or a fuck you to the corporations thing, they are corporate if you look at it objectively

ive been listening to alot of the 60s stuff, and its like a totally different band, i go back to it now and again, mostly stay with the early 70s and early 80s (79 - 84 being my favourite stones period i think), but they have some phenomenal songs, my current obsession is 'my obsession" and the entirety of between the buttons - why dont they play these? spose theyre technically impossible to tour with, but more of this would be nice, we got a glimpse with connection/im free/as tears go by on shine a light, courtesy of arm pulling from scorese i'm sure, btu they were great, more of that hopefully

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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #9 - Jul 7^th, 2009 at 6:36am

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one or 2 songs maybe, but i think it would bore people in the stadiums.

Simple way around that.

Dont play any more fuckin' stadiums.

Its not like they absolutely NEED the revenue.

Daethgod says what I've been saying for years - although I'd tweak things a bit. Not just a case of 'playing for fans of the band' but 'playing for themselves'.

Everybody in the civilised world has surely had ample opportunity to see or hear the Stones play their greatest hits by now. And when you're charging people $1000 for a pair of tickets, there's a tendency to pander to them because for that money they're going to want to see you as their personal jukebox.

Time for the band to reclaim their own music for themselves and play what THEY want. After 47 years theyve earned that right. Plenty of other acts of a similar vintage are able to do that or at worst do it plus play a few big hits. The type of show they're playing shouldnt be dictated by the corporate fan who doesnt know their music and doesnt care to know more than about 10-12 songs.

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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #10 - Jul 7^th, 2009 at 6:39am

Deathgod wrote on Jul 6^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

play for the fans of the band

not for the corporates or peeps who wanna say they were at a Stones gig

shows for the millions like us who 'get' what the band is about.

cmon Mick - 'celebrate the catalogue'

Exactly 40 %
of the Stones released output has NEVER been performed in concert.

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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #11 - Jul 7^th, 2009 at 7:45am

good point Gazz
has me beat why they don't play them
We know they are great songs, surely Mick and Keef know they are great songs

it's a mighty arsenal the boys are packing
time to fire it up

and if the band played for 'themselves' how much freaking FUN would they be having
touring would become a blast even for Charlie

hell, I'd even let Ronnie warble out 'Far East Man', 'Act Together', or 'Mystify'.

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Reply #13 - Jul 7^th, 2009 at 6:47pm

Gazza wrote on Jul 7^th, 2009 at 6:36am:

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one or 2 songs maybe, but i think it would bore people in the stadiums.

Simple way around that.

Dont play any more fuckin' stadiums.

Its not like they absolutely NEED the revenue.

Daethgod says what I've been saying for years - although I'd tweak things a bit. Not just a case of 'playing for fans of the band' but 'playing for themselves'.

Everybody in the civilised world has surely had ample opportunity to see or hear the Stones play their greatest hits by now. And when you're charging people $1000 for a pair of tickets, there's a tendency to pander to them because for that money they're going to want to see you as their personal jukebox.

Time for the band to reclaim their own music for themselves and play what THEY want. After 47 years theyve earned that right. Plenty of other acts of a similar vintage are able to do that or at worst do it plus play a few big hits. The type of show they're playing shouldnt be dictated by the corporate fan who doesnt know their music and doesnt care to know more than about 10-12 songs.

listen...you and i both know the stones are not going around the globe again playing smokey clubs and banging out acoustic numbers....for like a world tour so as to speak. that is just wishful thinking. it has never happened and i highly doubt it ever will. mick will be 66 in a couple of weeks and i bet he can't be bothered with this idea.
i do believe the stones have one more world tour left in them and they will do stadiums again...mark my words and you can thank me later.
and when it comes time for down time they will not tour behind this acoustic world tour thingy idea...its not going to happen. don't you think it would simpler for them to do an unplugged concert and call it done?

Are you fucking serious?

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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #14 - Jul 7^th, 2009 at 9:15pm

RE-INVENT?!?

I have said it before...recently as a matter of fact...

PLAY VEGAS!!!

3 or 4 shows a week...have THEME nights...sell them as special theme nights...Who wouldn't want to see an EXILE NITE?!? A 70's nite?!/ An ER/SG/TY nite!!!

a 69 and earlier nite?!? A RARITIES nite?!? an UNPLUGGED (mostly) nite?? All that mixed w/ a bunch of GREATEST HITS nites ( ok...that's for everyone else)

Play LV for 3 or 4 months...get plenty of rest between shows...no touring...no travel overhead w/ trucks/rigs, etc...and ALWAYS CLIMATE CONTROLLED (Hey Chicago!!!)

These guys do need a break and like GAZZA said...play for themselves...let the people come to them...!!!

That's a real REINVENTION...or INTERVENTION...LOL

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Moonisup Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 188 Gender:	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #16 - Jul 8^th, 2009 at 5:59am it's a shame! When you see Shine al light, the extra's, that's good, loose jams, wild horses on harp, that's the stones I want to see. 3 guys on stools playing accoustic, not another fucked up SFTD version
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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #17 - Jul 8^th, 2009 at 6:19am

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listen...

I'm not listening. I'm reading.

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you and i both know the stones are not going around the globe again playing smokey clubs and banging out acoustic numbers....for like a world tour so as to speak.

that is just wishful thinking. it has never happened and i highly doubt it ever will. mick will be 66 in a couple of weeks and i bet he can't be bothered with this idea.

when did I suggest he or the Stones would?

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i do believe the stones have one more world tour left in them and they will do stadiums again...

when did I suggest they wouldnt?

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mark my words and you can thank me later.

Thank you for that startling, surprising and insightful observation.

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and when it comes time for down time they will not tour behind this acoustic world tour thingy idea...its not going to happen.

When did I suggest they would or that I even wanted them to?

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Re: Tour reinvention
Reply #19 - Jul 8^th, 2009 at 8:39am

Paranoid Android wrote on Jul 7^th, 2009 at 9:15pm:

RE-INVENT?!?

I have said it before...recently as a matter of fact...

PLAY VEGAS!!!

3 or 4 shows a week...have THEME nights...sell them as special theme nights...Who wouldn't want to see an EXILE NITE?!? A 70's nite?!/ An ER/SG/TY nite!!!

a 69 and earlier nite?!? A RARITIES nite?!? an UNPLUGGED (mostly) nite?? All that mixed w/ a bunch of GREATEST HITS nites ( ok...that's for everyone else)

Play LV for 3 or 4 months...get plenty of rest between shows...no touring...no travel overhead w/ trucks/rigs, etc...and ALWAYS CLIMATE CONTROLLED (Hey Chicago!!!)

These guys do need a break and like GAZZA said...play for themselves...let the people come to them...!!!

That's a real REINVENTION...or INTERVENTION...LOL

I feel like a dick quoting myself...but this morning, I recieved a Ticket Bastard alert for the Beacon Theatre...check out the dates there for July 28 thru Aug 4th...this is the type of thing I want the Stones to do!!!

http://www.beacontheatre.com/events/steely-dan-2009-beacon-html

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ijwthstd Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,049	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #21 - Jul 8^th, 2009 at 3:15pm I think I would rather hear them play You Got Me Rocking all night than butcher a lot of the back catalog.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: Tour reinvention Reply #23 - Jul 8^th, 2009 at 10:47pm Tumbled wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 8:22am: I think Mick and Keith like a small theatre acoustically and they should know that WE DO TOO!! I like the full band but they could lose Blondie & still do well.
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