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Saint Sway Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,356	Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!! Reply #25 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 3:56pm Quote: No talk of new material though. ^ Why are you so obsessed with Joey's lack of posting skills??!??!?
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Reply #28 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 6:39pm

yes... its the first news of "new" product that has really caught my interest in a looong time - i tried to get excited about ABB but it just didn't happen - and maybe that should have been a warning sign - you shouldn't have to TRY to get excited over anything if it is the real thing

anyway, as zack suggested, I look forward to hearing the Ya Yas takes of UMT GS satisfaction (You got to move??) - the versions in Gimme Shelter were great - and on that point were the non - altamont songs in Gimme Shelter from MSG or were they from various shows??

on the tour question i agree with G. - its hard to see the point really - i too would prefer their energies were put into a a comprehensive and carefully considered "vaults" release

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Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!!
Reply #30 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 10:41pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 11:35am:

Screw all this old shit. Gimme some new material and a world tour. I enjoy the energy we all get when they are on the road. There will be time enough for looking through the past darkly and revisiting all of these treasures.

no, no, no.

there is nothing more exciting in 2009 than OLD SHIT that has been expanded.

let's face it: the Stones' best days in the studio are WAY behind them and new material, if we are to base it on the last 2 studio releases, isn't all that glorious, especially ABB.

i say OPEN THE VAULTS. there is no shame in them admitting (finally) that they can't write new, exciting, original music anymore. it's all good. we knew that. just put your dicks on the table guys and OPEN THE VAULTS.

mick has been VERY protective of the past and maybe- just maybe - he is starting to realize all the money he is losing out on.

you just wait...RockBand: Rolling Stones. it's coming...

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Reply #31 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 10:46pm

wiseblood wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 10:41pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 11:35am:

Screw all this old shit. Gimme some new material and a world tour. I enjoy the energy we all get when they are on the road. There will be time enough for looking through the past darkly and revisiting all of these treasures.

no, no, no.

there is nothing more exciting in 2009 than OLD SHIT that has been expanded.

let's face it: the Stones' best days in the studio are WAY behind them and new material, if we are to base it on the last 2 studio releases, isn't all that glorious, especially ABB.

i say OPEN THE VAULTS. there is no shame in them admitting (finally) that they can't write new, exciting, original music anymore. it's all good. we knew that. just put your dicks on the table guys and OPEN THE VAULTS.

mick has been VERY protective of the past and maybe- just maybe - he is starting to realize all the money he is losing out on.

you just wait...RockBand: Rolling Stones. it's coming...

ugh no more of that embarrassing rockband shit.

yeah seriously its about time they open up the vaults, theres horrendous amounts of material in there.

(Glad to be back on after a two year sabbatical! I was once known as keithriffhard27, and then today said Fuck it, lets rejoin)

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Reply #32 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 11:22pm

keithriffhard27 wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 10:46pm:

ugh no more of that embarrassing rockband shit.

(Glad to be back on after a two year sabbatical! I was once known as keithriffhard27, and then today said Fuck it, lets rejoin)

agree about the rockband thing i pray they go nowhere near that stuff

welcome back - anyone citing hst is talking my language

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Reply #34 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 6:12am

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 11:35am:

Screw all this old shit. Gimme some new material and a world tour. I enjoy the energy we all get when they are on the road. There will be time enough for looking through the past darkly and revisiting all of these treasures.

you CAN have BOTH, ya know.....!

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Reply #36 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 8:17am

Gazza wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 6:12am:

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 11:35am:

Screw all this old shit. Gimme some new material and a world tour. I enjoy the energy we all get when they are on the road. There will be time enough for looking through the past darkly and revisiting all of these treasures.

you CAN have BOTH, ya know.....!

too true, we might not get an ideally top notch record, but they could hit the studio soon, and start a tour after... and still open the vaults up. From a marketing POV, this next tour, would be a great time to really push as much as you can musically. Fans are older, Cd's are dying, you still will have the abiltiy to draw large crowds... you can please all levels of the fan base from young and curious to old die hards... the hardest thing is to record new stuff and sell it, touring and releasing archived stuff is relatively easy.

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Reply #37 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:16am

i wonder if the ya-ya's reissue has anything to do with the delay of the criterion blu release of gimme shelter (which was supposed to drop months ago). i was hoping for more stuff on that title, like whatever was left, and hopefully more full tunes (and an acoustic set that is in tune Lips Sealed

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i am setting my sights low on this one, so as not to be disappointed - i will be happy if we get a FULL version of sympathy with this release (too bad it didnt make the ludwig/sacd release, though); anything else will be gravy: more tina and ike, the aforementioned acoustic set - in tune, bb's material...

what was the song that they tied with i'm free..? i am drawing a blank now, but i remember mick t playing a pretty sweet solo in the middle of it - maybe that will see the light of day on this release, too...

not holding my breath, though.

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as for the rock band video game thing... i will have to respectfully disagree with my longtime pal, sia. have you ever played a rhythm game..? they can be pretty fun. but that isnt the point. i believe that those rhythm game platforms will be a HUGE music distribution channel; and the stones aint gonna turn their nose at that. in fact, i would think that they stand a chance to make more $$ and appeal to more new fans via these platforms than they do selling cds at brick and mortar stores (itunes will continue to be the #1 distribution channel). and if the stones get their own game, like the beatles, it has the potential to be realy good, with lots of archival stuff. let's just hope that harmonix (rock band) gets the nod over activision (guitar hero), as the former will take the time and release something worth owning, the latter will just release a greatest hits package as a money grab, imo...

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glencar Ex Member	Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!! Reply #38 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:30am I agree with you macdaddy. I know some kids who now like Gimme Shelter because it's featured on one of those games.
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Reply #39 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:51am

Pdog wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 8:17am:

Gazza wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 6:12am:

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 11:35am:

Screw all this old shit. Gimme some new material and a world tour. I enjoy the energy we all get when they are on the road. There will be time enough for looking through the past darkly and revisiting all of these treasures.

you CAN have BOTH, ya know.....!

too true, we might not get an ideally top notch record, but they could hit the studio soon, and start a tour after... and still open the vaults up. From a marketing POV, this next tour, would be a great time to really push as much as you can musically. Fans are older, Cd's are dying, you still will have the abiltiy to draw large crowds... you can please all levels of the fan base from young and curious to old die hards... the hardest thing is to record new stuff and sell it, touring and releasing archived stuff is relatively easy.

Yep.

The time to act on the archives is NOW, not wait for ten years or so when the band is no more and when hardly anyone will be buying CDs.

The Stones' fanbase is ageing and isnt being replaced by new blood (a natural consequence of hardly any material and a ticket price policy which excludes younger fans).

Their contemporaries - most notably Dylan and Neil Young - are able to record and tour as well as open their archives. Marketing wise, being active helps feed the interest for the old material.

The Stones are by contrast in danger of doing their legacy a great disservice because if they leave this kind of stuff for long enough, there may not be enough 'hardcore' fans left to care about these kind of releases. Its even more inexcusable considering the fact that they've been sitting on their arses for the last two years doing nothing.

Hopefully this release plus the Exile one will be the first steps to correcting that.

If they dont have the interest in doing it themselves, then leaving much of the task to a group of people who have the enthusiasm to do it justice (like The Dead and Dylan have done) is the way to go. They had no qualms after all about entrusting Live Licks and Rarities to other people and ended up releasing albums that they clearly hadnt listened to first or taken any involvement in. Hopefully they'll manage to let loose someone on their archives releases who doesnt make such a balls of it as was the case with those travesties

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ijwthstd Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,047	Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!! Reply #40 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 10:25am The best time to be releasing anything would have been between 1999 and 2002 when the machine was on the blocks and people were still buying CD's. I am sure Mick realizes the cash value of the archives has declined steadily in the last decade.
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glencar Ex Member	Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!! Reply #41 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 10:26am I don't think he's interested in releasing any of that stuff. This is probably more of an ABKCO thing than a Jagger bomb.
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Reply #42 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 10:30am

they'd need some co-operation with ABKCO for the additional Exile material as some of it dates from that period, so it would appear that maybe there's been some kind of meeting of minds on that front. The fact that Universal now own the distribution rights to the entire catalogue (outside the US) may have made things easier.

Agree with Dan. They missed a great opportunity with this stuff in the 3 years between the '99 tour and 40 Licks. Would have tied in with the 40th anniversary, and of course there WERE plans for a multi disc release including unreleased material which was jettisoned in favour of 40 Licks.

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glencar Ex Member	Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!! Reply #43 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 1:10pm Oh what might have been...
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platter Ex Member	Re: "Ya Yas" 40th anniversary deluxe edition!! Reply #45 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:58pm the live at the max dvd sounds good. i am interested to hear more about the "new" exile cd too.
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Reply #46 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 4:48pm

Gazza wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 10:30am:

they'd need some co-operation with ABKCO for the additional Exile material as some of it dates from that period, so it would appear that maybe there's been some kind of meeting of minds on that front. The fact that Universal now own the distribution rights to the entire catalogue (outside the US) may have made things easier.

Agree with Dan. They missed a great opportunity with this stuff in the 3 years between the '99 tour and 40 Licks. Would have tied in with the 40th anniversary, and of course there WERE plans for a multi disc release including unreleased material which was jettisoned in favour of 40 Licks.

I just read something on another forum, that basically validates what Courtney Love talked about... Was has gotten a hold of great stuff for Exile... if they hold nothing back, this thing could be amazing... and just a tip... hoping!!! I think Jodi Klein and Jagger have connected and some things have been workied out... he's much more diplomatic that the dad...

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Reply #47 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 4:50pm

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We need Ladies & Genteleman on DVD

The only way this would be worth having, is the made a new version that didn't focus 95% on Jagger... otherwise, the movie is boring IMO. The music is great, so i'm more interested in the audio portion... I could look at tour pics from 72 and listen to the concerts from Texas and enjoy that more.

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Reply #48 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 5:03pm

Pdog wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 4:50pm:

Gimme Shelter wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:16pm:

We need Ladies & Genteleman on DVD

The only way this would be worth having, is the made a new version that didn't focus 95% on Jagger... otherwise, the movie is boring IMO. The music is great, so i'm more interested in the audio portion... I could look at tour pics from 72 and listen to the concerts from Texas and enjoy that more.

Agree 100%. I haven’t watched L&G for some time, but do recall the camera work being a little overly Jagger-friendly. Don’t get me wrong: I like to watch Jagger, but not during a Mick Taylor or Keith Richards’s solo – very frustrating viewing.

I would prefer a CD release of the ’72 Tour.

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Reply #49 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 5:09pm

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 5:03pm:

Pdog wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 4:50pm:

Gimme Shelter wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:16pm:

We need Ladies & Genteleman on DVD

The only way this would be worth having, is the made a new version that didn't focus 95% on Jagger... otherwise, the movie is boring IMO. The music is great, so i'm more interested in the audio portion... I could look at tour pics from 72 and listen to the concerts from Texas and enjoy that more.

Agree 100%. I haven’t watched L&G for some time, but do recall the camera work being a little overly Jagger-friendly. Don’t get me wrong: I like to watch Jagger, but not during a Mick Taylor or Keith Richards’s solo – very frustrating viewing.

I would prefer a CD release of the ’72 Tour.

not seeing Taylor on Keith play, some really great parts... killed me!!! granted Taylor just played, so not alot to watch outside of his solos, but Keith and his riffs are "one".

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