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Bernard in the studio with the Stones these days?!
Apr 12^th, 2009 at 5:45pm

Last night I attended the Little Axe - Chess Moves show in Vienna, highly anticipating another musically great evening. (I had already seen them before and they were excellent then).
Well, Doug Wimbish (the best bass player I've ever heard and seen) played incredibly stunning and deeply moving solos and created sounds that I didn't even know you could create with a bass, Keith Leblanc was wonderful on drums and Skip McDonald was alright. They did two sets and the first one was terrible, there was far too much playback and computer backup involved for my taste. Then they had a break and I'm glad to be able to say that the second set was amazing, just as I had reminded the whole TackHead show was like that I saw last year.
Last night's concert was very different. All in all it wasn't bad and of course each of these musicians is excellent, but I simply liked last years' concert better.
And I think that's because it was clear, even all the way through the awesome second set, that the frontman was missing last night.
Bernard wasn't there to sing. I could have been disappointed about it, because I had been looking forward to this show for some 2 months and of course I wanted to see Mr. Fowler again.
But considering this announcement at the entrance I realised I should be happy and excited (Provided it isn't just an uncreative excuse for him not to be there for other reasons which, If the latter should indeed be the case, I've decided to ignore and simply take for real what was written on this sheet of paper).

It says: Unfortunately, Bernard Fowler is indispensable at studio recording sessions of the Stones and therefore isn't present this time.

Well, just thought I'd share this with you. Definitely sounds very good to me and I want to believe it! Wink

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Re: Bernard in the studio with the Stones these da
Reply #1 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 5:53pm

This is good news! I guess the RS studio recording wasnt planned in advance or Bernard would never have booked a gig the same time. He is a professional and I am happy to know he puts his own career second to the Stones, thats loyalty!

And this would support the album-before-tour theory for the end of 2009 and/or early 2010!

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Reply #5 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 8:08am

Read that post on IORR. Highly unlikely.

There's nothing on Bernard's blog or website to suggest there's been any Stones activity, and considering the fact that he hasnt recorded with the Stones in 12 years, he's hardly as indispensable to the Stones in the studio as the sign implies - especially in what would only be the early stages of recording.

Sounds like the promoter is just covering his ass.

He HAS been working with Ronnie lately on HIS next solo release - so if there's any Stones-related reason for his absence, thats probably it.

And the Stones DONT just record without planning it first.

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Re: Bernard in the studio with the Stones these da
Reply #10 - Apr 14^th, 2009 at 3:46pm

That would be great! However, as Gazza and others are saying there's just as much chance Bernard is working with Woody on Woody's solo project ...that is "IF" Woody is indeed doing a solo deal? (I'm taking it Gazza is pretty close to being sure of it...?).

Mick and Woody supposedly are working or have been working but we do not even know for sure if they are working together? Mick has been reported as singing on Woody's solo jaunt. Still we are not sure Woody is doing something solo for sure? For example roughly just four months ago there was still reports going around of a supposed Faces reunion and album... now that's supposedly nixed (at least for right now ).

Nothing has been "confirmed" and there has been loads of talk and some reports: Stones tour, Stones record, Faces tour, Faces record, Mick in the studio, Mick with Dave Stewart, Mick with Woody ....

Until something is "confirmed" from a really reliable source even I am not going to jump the gun here since there all so many story's circulating (some of these stories from "fairly reputable" news agencies/websites).

I'm pretty darn sure something is up at this point...but how can anyone be sure exactly what???

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Reply #12 - Apr 14^th, 2009 at 8:12pm

Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing.

As mentioned here several times and having it heard it directly from a conversation from a band member, the Faces' album story was just paper talk. They rehearsed for a couple of days in November Rod then joined them for one day and promptly fucked off and hasnt been in touch since. He's on tour this summer in Europe.

Charlie supposedly played with some jazz band in England at the weelkend, although thats not confirmed.

Keith is in the caribbean.

Ergo, the Stones are not working together at this time - with or without the apparently 'indispensable' Bernard Fowler. Nothing is 'up' apart from Ronnie's album, and I wouldnt hold my breath for that.

Newspaper sources invariably arent worth a damn, no matter how 'reputable' a publication they may be.

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Reply #13 - Apr 14^th, 2009 at 8:41pm

Gazza wrote on Apr 14^th, 2009 at 8:12pm:

Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing.

Charlie supposedly played with some jazz band in England at the weelkend, although thats not confirmed.

I guess you didn't see this on IORR Gazza:

Here is a review from the Times

Easter Monday at the Bull's Head was magical for anyone interested in boogie woogie piano, and a blast of sheer good fun for those who squeezed into this 120-capacity jazz haunt by the river. The show featured three of the greatest exponents of the keyboard- thumping art: Ben Waters, Axel Zwingenberger and Jools Holland, with a supporting cast including the Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, singer and guitarist Chris Jagger (younger brother of Mick), the bass player Geoff Gascoigne and saxophonists Willie Garnett and Derek Nash.

Waters, who kicked off the show, played with a relaxed bonhomie that rather disguised the rampant virtuosity of his performing style. With wrists of steel and a left hand that seemed to have a mind of its own, he charged around the keyboard in an effortless blur as he romped through a set that included an infectious Sticky Finger Boogie (written by Nash) and a delightful slow blues, That Lucky Old Sun, borrowed from Jerry Lee Lewis.

Zwingenberger, the German boogiemeister, took over at the grand piano for older, more ragtime-influenced themes, including Suitcase Blues and Madhattan Boogie, which he delivered with a broad inscrutable smile. Watts, imperturbable behind his modest Gretsch kit, and Gascoigne on upright bass, remained in place, the backbone of the band. To see Watts at such close hand was to witness the ramshackle simplicity of his playing style in all its glory. How he managed to conjure such tremendous swing with so limited a technique remains a mystery. But conjure it he did.

As the entire ensemble launched into a finale of Down the Road Apiece (when it was being sung by Holland) which suddenly became Let It Rock (when Jagger took over the vocals), the whole room seemed to have turned into a bouncy castle for grown-ups.

Their is also photographic proof, courtesy of Beast.

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Reply #14 - Apr 14^th, 2009 at 10:48pm

Gazza wrote on Apr 14^th, 2009 at 8:12pm:

Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing.

As mentioned here several times and having it heard it directly from a conversation from a band member, the Faces' album story was just paper talk. They rehearsed for a couple of days in November Rod then joined them for one day and promptly fucked off and hasnt been in touch since. He's on tour this summer in Europe.

Charlie supposedly played with some jazz band in England at the weelkend, although thats not confirmed.

Keith is in the caribbean.

Ergo, the Stones are not working together at this time - with or without the apparently 'indispensable' Bernard Fowler. Nothing is 'up' apart from Ronnie's album, and I wouldnt hold my breath for that.

Newspaper sources invariably arent worth a damn, no matter how 'reputable' a publication they may be.

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I didn't know this about BF producing Woody's album. If that is the case then it only makes sense. Especially in that most of the rest of The Stones are no where near them. The owner/manager of the club that had the comment about Fowler recording with The Stones in excusing his absence from that club obviously spruced the story up a bit in making it seem more of a valid reason for Fowler being absent like we presumed. He is recording "with a Rolling Stone" ...unless Mick drops by to do some work. He isn't technically incorrect but The story of why BF couldn't make it was spruced up a bit it seems.

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Reply #15 - Apr 15^th, 2009 at 6:08am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 14^th, 2009 at 8:41pm:

Gazza wrote on Apr 14^th, 2009 at 8:12pm:

Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing.

Charlie supposedly played with some jazz band in England at the weelkend, although thats not confirmed.

I guess you didn't see this on IORR Gazza:

Here is a review from the Times

Easter Monday at the Bull's Head was magical for anyone interested in boogie woogie piano, and a blast of sheer good fun for those who squeezed into this 120-capacity jazz haunt by the river. The show featured three of the greatest exponents of the keyboard- thumping art: Ben Waters, Axel Zwingenberger and Jools Holland, with a supporting cast including the Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, singer and guitarist Chris Jagger (younger brother of Mick), the bass player Geoff Gascoigne and saxophonists Willie Garnett and Derek Nash.

Waters, who kicked off the show, played with a relaxed bonhomie that rather disguised the rampant virtuosity of his performing style. With wrists of steel and a left hand that seemed to have a mind of its own, he charged around the keyboard in an effortless blur as he romped through a set that included an infectious Sticky Finger Boogie (written by Nash) and a delightful slow blues, That Lucky Old Sun, borrowed from Jerry Lee Lewis.

Zwingenberger, the German boogiemeister, took over at the grand piano for older, more ragtime-influenced themes, including Suitcase Blues and Madhattan Boogie, which he delivered with a broad inscrutable smile. Watts, imperturbable behind his modest Gretsch kit, and Gascoigne on upright bass, remained in place, the backbone of the band. To see Watts at such close hand was to witness the ramshackle simplicity of his playing style in all its glory. How he managed to conjure such tremendous swing with so limited a technique remains a mystery. But conjure it he did.

As the entire ensemble launched into a finale of Down the Road Apiece (when it was being sung by Holland) which suddenly became Let It Rock (when Jagger took over the vocals), the whole room seemed to have turned into a bouncy castle for grown-ups.

Their is also photographic proof, courtesy of Beast.

Thats the one, thanks. I'd heard yesterday that he'd played somewhere the night before but didnt know the details.

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Reply #16 - Apr 17^th, 2009 at 1:53am

Gazza Wrote:

"Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing"

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This is the most "productive" news, even though it does involve The Rolling Stones as a band per say, we've heard for a while. Not that anyone is doubting this but where did you hear BF is producing Ronnie's album? I did not know, and I missed the comments about it that were on the board previously. I was out of the loop on this so please fill me in (that is, "if" you are at liberty to say. If not, we'll just take your good word on it). Were you informed when you spoke to some of the members of The Faces and possibly they put The Faces reunion murmur to rest and filled you in on what Ronnie was "really" up to these days? Simply curious is all.

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Reply #17 - Apr 17^th, 2009 at 6:47am

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

Gazza Wrote:

"Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing"

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This is the most "productive" news, even though it does involve The Rolling Stones as a band per say, we've heard for a while. Not that anyone is doubting this but where did you hear BF is producing Ronnie's album? I did not know, and I missed the comments about it that were on the board previously. I was out of the loop on this so please fill me in (that is, "if" you are at liberty to say. If not, we'll just take your good word on it). Ian

Bernard himself has mentioned it to several Stones fans who have been talking to him following some of the shows he's been playing in recent weeks.

I dont know how much theyve done on it though (my guess is not very much). The album's working title is 'More Good News'.

Hopefully the second half of 2009 will see the Stones working on a new album, because they ARE planning to go on the road sometime in 2010.

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Reply #18 - Apr 18^th, 2009 at 1:11am

Gazza wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 6:47am:

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

Gazza Wrote:

"Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing"

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This is the most "productive" news, even though it does involve The Rolling Stones as a band per say, we've heard for a while. Not that anyone is doubting this but where did you hear BF is producing Ronnie's album? I did not know, and I missed the comments about it that were on the board previously. I was out of the loop on this so please fill me in (that is, "if" you are at liberty to say. If not, we'll just take your good word on it). Ian

Bernard himself has mentioned it to several Stones fans who have been talking to him following some of the shows he's been playing in recent weeks.

I dont know how much theyve done on it though (my guess is not very much). The album's working title is 'More Good News'.

Hopefully the second half of 2009 will see the Stones working on a new album, because they ARE planning to go on the road sometime in 2010.

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Goody goody for him I guess. But what makes you seem skeptical that Woody's album will finally see the light of day some time? ...(I realize Woody seems to get involved or at times says things that in instances never materialize...is this your reasoning for the pessimism here?)

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Ian Billen wrote on Apr 18^th, 2009 at 1:11am:

Gazza wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 6:47am:

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

Gazza Wrote:

"Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing"

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This is the most "productive" news, even though it does involve The Rolling Stones as a band per say, we've heard for a while. Not that anyone is doubting this but where did you hear BF is producing Ronnie's album? I did not know, and I missed the comments about it that were on the board previously. I was out of the loop on this so please fill me in (that is, "if" you are at liberty to say. If not, we'll just take your good word on it). Ian

Bernard himself has mentioned it to several Stones fans who have been talking to him following some of the shows he's been playing in recent weeks.

I dont know how much theyve done on it though (my guess is not very much). The album's working title is 'More Good News'.

Hopefully the second half of 2009 will see the Stones working on a new album, because they ARE planning to go on the road sometime in 2010.

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Goody goody for him I guess. But what makes you seem skeptical that Woody's album will finally see the light of day some time? ...(I realize Woody seems to get involved or at times says things that in instances never materialize...is this your reasoning for the pessimism here?)

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Huh?

I didnt say or suggest anything of the sort. I said I didnt think they'd done that much work on it so far.

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Reply #21 - Apr 19^th, 2009 at 12:49am

Gazza wrote on Apr 18^th, 2009 at 12:35pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 18^th, 2009 at 1:11am:

Gazza wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 6:47am:

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 17^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

Gazza Wrote:

"Ronnie is working on a solo album, with Bernard Fowler producing"

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This is the most "productive" news, even though it does involve The Rolling Stones as a band per say, we've heard for a while. Not that anyone is doubting this but where did you hear BF is producing Ronnie's album? I did not know, and I missed the comments about it that were on the board previously. I was out of the loop on this so please fill me in (that is, "if" you are at liberty to say. If not, we'll just take your good word on it). Ian

Bernard himself has mentioned it to several Stones fans who have been talking to him following some of the shows he's been playing in recent weeks.

I dont know how much theyve done on it though (my guess is not very much). The album's working title is 'More Good News'.

Hopefully the second half of 2009 will see the Stones working on a new album, because they ARE planning to go on the road sometime in 2010.

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Goody goody for him I guess. But what makes you seem skeptical that Woody's album will finally see the light of day some time? ...(I realize Woody seems to get involved or at times says things that in instances never materialize...is this your reasoning for the pessimism here?)

Ian

Huh?

I didnt say or suggest anything of the sort. I said I didnt think they'd done that much work on it so far.

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What did you mean by this?

"Nothing is 'up' apart from Ronnie's album, and I wouldn't hold my breath for that."

I assume your meaning that they haven't done much as you said and it will be a while until we finally see it then eh?

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"More Good News" is the proposed title of Ronnie's next solo thing or the Stones?

neither - I was thinking of renaming the Obama thread with it, though... Wow!

It's the working title of Ronnie's album, of course. There is no 'next Stones album' at present, so it'd be a bit premature for it to have even a proposed title.

Although my choice would ironically be the same as Neil Young's next release, ie "Archives Vol. 1 - 1963-72"

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