Interesting. What is the Express' reputation for accurate reporting?

So far all I could find was this:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/wood%20pushes%20plans%20for%20stone...

ROLLING STONES - WOOD PUSHES PLANS FOR STONES TOUR


THE ROLLING STONES are reportedly putting plans in place for a 2009 tour - after guitarist RONNIE WOOD's hopes of reuniting THE FACES fell through. Wood was eager to get the seventies band back together, telling Rolling Stone magazine that he and former frontman Rod Stewart were working on new material and talking about a series of concert dates later this year (09).
But Stewart dismissed the comeback reports, with his representative saying, "There are no plans for a Faces reunion tour this year."
And now Wood has persuaded his Rolling Stones bandmates to consider taking to the road on a global jaunt - their first since 2006's A Bigger Bang tour - according to Britain's Daily Express.
A source tells the publication, "Now that the Faces reunion seems to be off, Ronnie is free to perform with the Stones. There is this offer for a U.S. tour on the table. It's a good offer."
However, it is alleged Wood is eyeing a Rolling Stones tour because he is desperate to earn more cash to cover his impending divorce from estranged wife Jo.
The insider adds, "Keith (Richards) is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way of getting back on his feet, both personally and financially, after all that's happened over the past several months."
Wood left his wife of 23-years in 2008 after his affair with 20-year-old Ekaterina Ivanova was exposed. He subsequently moved out of the family home and has offered Jo a reported $4.9 million (£3 million)-a-year divorce deal.

the Daily Express article isnt online as yet, but it does indeed quote a 'close source' as saying  that they have a 'good offer' to tour the US later this year and are planning to do so.

That said, a lot of the article seems to be a case of putting two and two together and making five. It basically suggests that its only really coming about because Ronnie is available due to the Faces not touring (as if that would ever have taken precedence) and that a prime motivation for them touring is Ronnie's financial state. It also tellingly makes no mention of a new record - personally I'd be very surprised if the Stones, after having signed a new contract, would embark on a new tour without some 'product' to promote.

The funniest thing in the whole article was the 'source's remark about how they're in such good health for their age, citing that Keith "only eats organic food" (presumably his vodka is organic as well....)

Personally, I cant see them touring in 2009 for several reasons - the state of the economy (which will affect a Stones ticket more than that by anyone else), no sign of a new record being made as yet and the fact that U2 will probably be taking up a large share of the ticket-buying cake). That said, at least its good to know they're INTENDING to do so at some point in the future.

LJ - The ever-useless Contactmusic as usual have taken things out of context, with their heading suggesting that Woody is 'pushing' plans for a Stones tour. At no point in the Daily Express article does it say that.

.....even a few clubs would be sweet!

Very Very Interesting...

lotsajizz wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 7:18am:




and the award for First Hopelessly Optimistic Post of Tour '09 goes to....

http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/83297/Veteran-Stones-all-set-to-hit-the-r...

Story is now online (edit - Thanks Ade - I didnt see youd posted the link)


VETERAN STONES ALL SET TO HIT THE ROAD AGAIN 



THE LAST TIME? The Stones are going on tour
Wednesday February 4,2009

THEY’VE got a combined age of 258 but the hardest working band in rock ’n’ roll aren’t sitting at home in their tartan slippers.

The Rolling Stones are dusting off their guitars for a tour later this year.

Mick and Keith, both 65, ­Ronnie, 61, and Charlie, 67, are set for a multi-million-pound pay day by going on the road again.

And Ronnie Wood is keen on the idea so he can earn some cash to offset what looks to be a costly divorce from wife Jo.

The OAP rockers have drawn up plans for the American tour, which can now go ahead after a proposed Faces reunion fell by the wayside.

Ronnie was all set to perform with his old band, headed by Rod Stewart, later this year but those plans have been canned.

A source close to the band said: “There is this offer for a US tour on the table. It’s a good offer.

“They may be well into their 60s but the lads can still out-rock most of the bands around today.

“They live well. Mick is a very healthy eater and Keith only has organic meals. They are in great shape for their ages. They live for performing so they will relish being back on the road. It’s what they first got in the game to do.”

The band has performed hundreds of concerts with 38 tours across the globe in the past 46 years. The source continued: “Now that the Faces reunion seems to be off, Ronnie is free to perform with the Stones.


“Keith is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way for him to get back on his feet, both personally and ­financially, after all that’s happened over the past several months.”

The source added: “It will be great motivation for Ronnie because he loves playing live. The gigs will go down a storm I’m sure.”

It has emerged Ronnie is facing financial difficulties after spending his £2.5million share from the Stones’ 2007 Bigger Bang tour.

He has also sacked his manager Jamie, his stepson, who is the son of estranged wife Jo. Jamie handled all of Ronnie’s affairs.

Ronnie has been living it up in LA with 20-year-old toygirl lover Ekaterina Ivanova.

As most people have said, it would be great if they did tour.

The Stones wouldnt have to record any new material to release a product. I am sure there is no end of unreleased material they could shove together to produce something which, lets face it, we would buy.

Ian?

" The insider adds, "Keith (Richards) is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way of getting back on his feet, both personally and financially, after all that's happened over the past several months." 

Now they can be good ' drinking buddies ' once again .

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Bruce tickets are being snapped up fast — at a top price of $100. Therein lies the rub.

'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:51am:



its stimulating my package

he's spent it all on fancy jackets............. not

bring back taylor .He would be cheap !

sc uk

Do you think we are enabling the Ronnie (400 lb gorilla) by buying tickets ? I feel slightly sleazy doing it.  maybe I can figure out how to go for free somehow!!     I'm still paying for the money that Ronnie doesn't have anymore?!    why is everybody always bending over backwards to help Ronnie? 

sorry I'm such a bitch but GAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Zack wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 1:16pm:


$95 (with an extremely limited number of $65)

The bootlegs I heard of Werchter and I think Nijmegen 2007 were absolutely dreadful performance wise. They seemed to get it together as the tour went on but there is no excuse for putting on such a bad show regardless of the ticket price.

But my days of spending a 3 digit figure just for a stupid concert are over.

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 11:14am:


Hell one bank exec just spent 1.2 million on a bathroom upgrade (no not Joey) so it can be done!..As a matter of fact Mike Vick spent that much the week before going to jail.

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 11:14am:

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 3:00pm:


That reminds me of the Super Blow,er Bowl party I went to.

i am thinking late spring/summer '10 myself, but this is all very exciting.

i think they should bring on a new set of songs before a tour and i hope they do stadiums.

Hmmm, this piece of news doesn't come completely as a surprise to me... And if true, I like Keith's subtle approach on the matter  "Yeah, let's go out on the road, it's for Woody's sake man - and yes, I'll enjoy the tour by the way"

No seriously, it's about time, isn't it? 

Don't let the whole financial crisis get to you, if they're planning anything they're obviously planning it for later this year and this crisis should have gone full circle by then... Once down in the gutter, the only way to go is up and blah blah blah. I bet we're in for some Stones surprises - good ones - in 2009... 

" How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year?  "

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Who the fuck mentioned Springsteen?? Oh wait, you did. 

Gazza wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 10:41am:

Yes, I did. He's the other tour this year besides U2, who I actually like.

Joey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 4:24pm:



it ain't bringing JB back..........

Not anymore!

The most logical thing would be for them to say, yes, this is the last time.

Get the tarps ready Ronnie!!!!!

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10% unemployment in California, 7.5% nationwide and growing. "Real fans" might have nothing to do with it when you know they aren't lowering their prices. Everyone has had plenty of time to say their farewells since they have been touring more than ever the last decade or so.

Besides, in 1997 Keith said it was the last one before the next 5. That means we get one more after the next one.

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You only need Mick and Keith to call it the Stones, regardless of the opinions of the fans. If they are alive and can still perform, even marginally, you have a tour.

If this tour happens, I am not even sure it will be full scale as I thought they needed to do a new album for Universal too. If that's the case, you have a short cash grab No Security type tour with an album/tour a year or so later.

ijwthstd wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 2:45pm:



I agree. No way will there be a new Stones studio album released in 2009 in time for a tour.

If they do go on the road - and I seriously doubt they will, THIS year anyway - it'll be a quick one. There's no need for them to do so, no new product to promote and the market is likely to still be pretty weak at least into 2010.

Will they bother rehearsing for a month or more just to go on the road for 6-7 weeks and do 20 shows?

Cant see it. They're going to be breaking the habits of a lifetime to do anything like that.

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 4:52am:



Your last line answers the question you asked of me.  Its now February 7th.

Record a new album in time for a tour to start by, say, Sept-Oct 2009?

Not a prayer.

Agree with you about the Universal thing. They very well might make a record sometime this year, but I cant see them releasing one AND touring behind it in 2009.

The economy will be back on track by next spring, maybe a bit later if this stimulus package actually takes effect. The Stones are meeting in March, they can record over the summer & mix in the fall (if they still indeed MIX!) & then gear up a tour for the Spring of next year. Don't forget they use the U2 crew & U2 is touring soon.

As I recall the ABB album was recorded in a few weeks time at MICK's place in France, just MICK & KEEF putting the songs together. Then the studio mixes took a few months and the whole deal was done in much less than a year's time, so in 6 months or so there could be a new, completed album project, IF they put their effort into it. And some people will say ABB aint worth shit, and sounds like it was thrown together, but it's decent enough with 6 or 7 songs which I feel are Stones-worthy:
1. Laugh I Nearly Died
2. Back of My Hand
3. Oh No Not You Again
4. Rough Justice
5. This Place is Empty
6. Infamy
7. Streets Of Love

And so my point is, IT IS POSSIBLE for a tour starting at the end of 09!

LadyJane wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 2:48pm:

You got it! They pull that shit, I ain't going!

Bitch wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 2:57pm:


they started it just after Charlie's cancer diagnosis - late summer 2004. They recorded in dribs and drabs after that and were still recording in spring 2005 (Ronnie added his parts around the week that he played his solo show at Drury Lane - mid March 2005)

However, and this partly is a response to what Ian says above - we KNEW a new record was in the works as far back as autumn 2004. The tour wasnt announced until 10 May 2005 and began in late August 2005. So there was actually a full year between it being known they were going to make a record and a tour starting.

Every time the Stones have toured behind a new * album for as long as I can remember - whilst we maybe only got a few months notice of a tour, it was common knowledge for a few months before any announcement that they were going to make a record. Even BTB, while they didnt record it until spring 1997, it was common knowledge that Mick and Keith had been working on songs in late 1996.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that any work has been undertaken with a view to a new record being made.


* I exclude the Licks tour from that because they didnt make a new album - prior to them announcing the tour on May 7 2002, whilst we knew a tour was on the cards, there was no definite word on a new release, so there was a bit of confusion about whether there would be a new album (there had been no indication to suggest they'd been recording) or whether they would be touring behind a boxed set of unreleased material. The deal between Universal and ABKCO to issue '40 Licks' was only finalised a day or two before the press conference, which was when they confirmed that they would release it - at that point, the compilation didnt have a name and they said that they would record some new songs for it as well, which were then recorded later that month.

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Spring 2010 makes more sense to me too - both logistically and economically. However, the U2 thing isnt as big a deal as we used to believe. Both acts toured the US at the same time in late 2005. U2's tour continued into spring 2006 when the Stones were also still on tour.

Seemingly. You're right in that they do (or did) share some crew in common, but I guess some extras were brought in to deal with that.

When you think about it, it would be a pretty absurd scenario that either of the two biggest touring acts on the planet would be obliged to postpone their plans to go on the road and make something like half a billion dollars in possible gross just because some hired personnel are working elsewhere.

Gazza Wrote:

"There is absolutely nothing to suggest that any work has been undertaken with a view to a new record being made. "

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When is there? Normally we find out months, and even over a year later "the where and when" of the writings/recordings. We have no clue if they have met for a few weeks here and again or not. I was told (from a pretty reputable source) that Mick and Keith met for a while in August 08 to work on a "project". But aside from that, we do not know what they are doing. I mean, by May of 2005, Mick and Keith had already laid the groundwork for the entire A Bigger Bang album ....and they were not spotted together in the same place up to that point even once. So just because we do not see them, or specifically know they are together writing or working something up doesn't mean they haven't here and there. Until the press conference in May of 05 everyone thought they hadn't done much, if anything at all up to that point and Mick said at the press conference the album was already 85% finished if that is any indication on there secretiveness.

*In reality, most of it isn't really secretiveness why we find out so much later with no spottings or mention previously. In today's day and age that notion is almost impossible. The press have good relations with the bands publicists, and their spokes people. Many times the press purposefully keep quiet, or do not post everything in assurance they will get first dibs, or respectful notice of a bigger acts affairs at a later time if it is something as simple as working on an album. This is why we often don't know anything when all the while these larger acts conduct business. It is some what a game with us. They get the full juicy story when it's time, we see it and read or buy the publications. The artist and their people are happy, the journalists/media are satisfied, and by the time it is purposefully let out we are thrilled with the news and know nothing of the respectful restraint that kept us in the dark for so long.   ....Anyway, you knew all that anyway lol

Your very right that "IF" they plan on touring in 2009 and are to record an album for this ...they had better be cracking on it good and well about now.  


Ian

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 10:29pm:


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*Well in reality, most of it isn't really secretiveness in why we find out so much later with no spotings or mention previously. In today's day and age that notion is almost impossible. The press have good relations with the bands publicists, and their spokes people. Many times the press purposefully keep quiet, or do not post everything in assurance they will get first dibs, or respectful notice of a bigger acts affairs at a later time if it is something as simple as working on an album. This is why we often don't know anything when all the while these larger acts conduct business. It is some what a game with us. They get the full juicy story when it's time, we see it and read or buy the publications. The artist and their people are happy, the journalists/media are satisfied, and by the time it is purposefully let out we are thrilled with the news and know nothing of the respectful restraint that kept us in the dark for so long.   ....Anyway, you most likely knew all that anyway lol


Ian

Gazza wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 5:54pm:


I'd go along with that. The gap between tours is historically more towards 3 years apart from the gap between Licks 03' and ABB 05'

Joey wrote on Feb 8^th, 2009 at 10:39am:



Exactly

Especially if there's a Guinness handy...

Get an autograph! Bring Guinness!

" Well it is entirely possible that MICK & KEEF have written some songs independantly, like I remember reading KEEF say about ABB when they got together KEEF asked MICK "What you got?" and MICK had several songs in the works. Then KEEF showed MICK what he had been working on and so by the time they got together they already had more than enough material to work with. I'm sure some of those unused songs might get another shake and new ones have yet to be looked at. As Stones material the songs have to be liked by both MICK & KEEF. "


Concur . BITCH !

Mick is growing his hair out.

Where ever Keith is, Mick sure aint there.

" mccartney sucked . "


WHAT ?!


http://www.maccareport.com/


" US TICKET ALERT!!!! "


" Paul McCartney in concert at The New Joint at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Las Vegas on Sunday, April 19


Tickets go on-sale Saturday, February 14 at noon PT
Tickets at the Hard Rock Hotel Box Office, Ticketmaster locations, online at Ticketmaster.com or charge-by-phone at 800-745-3000 "


http://www.maccareport.com/

theres been a lot of heated talk on the jazz boards about Andy Snitzer cancelling a September gig in Boca Raton to clear his schedule for a possible fall tour.

Saint Sway wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 10:32am:




my sources will tell me when a certain proctologist in Boca Raton packs his bags to accompany a special patient the tour is on.............

somebody log in and try and hire Andy for September, October and November and see what happens!!

http://www.esession.com/?Menu=SearchHome&nUserID=1129

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 11:25am:


He WAS one of the horn players...in 1994-1998.

erikjjf wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 12:05pm:


Sorry I wasnt up to date on the horn section as we speak. For me limit all horns to a total of 5 minutes and only Bobby Keys......

unfortunately Bobby Keys Stones legacy will be most remembered for having introduced Ronnie Wood to smoking crack.


from that point on, Ronnie was never the same

Andy Snitzer aka the 15th Stone.

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 1:13pm:


postin above the rim!

THIS JUST IN from Rolling Stones dot com:

if you spend $50 or more on Stones wear between now an Valentines Day, they'll send you a pin!


can you feel the love or what?

I'm actually with Ian on this one. Mick said he was always writing during a SAL interview a while back. I'm sure Keith spends some time writing music as well. The Stones can all record music at their homes and send tracks to each other and work on them that way. Then there are unreleased/unfinished songs they could work on...Once the songs are written and roughly recorded they only have to meet for a short time to really produce them and put the finishing touches on 'em.

Gazza Wrote:

"We WOULD know. That's mine. Simple."

______________________


I think I understand what you're sayin now. In other words, "IF" The Stones had started. Someone who knows the camp, a studio hang about, a friend, or someone would of mentioned this to one of us or stated this in which we would of gotten wind of that mention by now. Or we would of known by a leak of some sort. I can understand your point there.  There's sense to that thought process. Still, I think it's just as possible they have started and nobody has let anything out of the bag or "leaked" anything just yet in the same right. Also I was not into the notion of the press releasing something if all wasn't optimal for such just yet.

In other words your saying if something like that is going down we would of got word of something some way, some how by now. I see your point.  I'm just not so sure of that as you are is all.

Ian