This morning's Daily Express says a source close to the band claims that the Stones are set to tour the US later this year

Havent time to search online for it right now but will try to do later.

Interesting. What is the Express' reputation for accurate reporting?

Reasonable. Its the lead story in their showbiz section and, in fairness, while the press tend to be inventive about salacious gossip, this isnt the sort of topic theyd make up out of thin air.

That said, the 'source close to the band' seems to make it out that a lot of it is down to Ronnie's money issues and the collapse of any plans for the Faces to tour. Personally Ive my doubts on whether - in the current economic climate - any financial adviser close to the Stones would recommend them touring without a new 'product'. And there's nothing in the story to indicate a new record.

So far all I could find was this:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/wood%20pushes%20plans%20for%20stones%20tour_1093798

ROLLING STONES - WOOD PUSHES PLANS FOR STONES TOUR


THE ROLLING STONES are reportedly putting plans in place for a 2009 tour - after guitarist RONNIE WOOD's hopes of reuniting THE FACES fell through. Wood was eager to get the seventies band back together, telling Rolling Stone magazine that he and former frontman Rod Stewart were working on new material and talking about a series of concert dates later this year (09).
But Stewart dismissed the comeback reports, with his representative saying, "There are no plans for a Faces reunion tour this year."
And now Wood has persuaded his Rolling Stones bandmates to consider taking to the road on a global jaunt - their first since 2006's A Bigger Bang tour - according to Britain's Daily Express.
A source tells the publication, "Now that the Faces reunion seems to be off, Ronnie is free to perform with the Stones. There is this offer for a U.S. tour on the table. It's a good offer."
However, it is alleged Wood is eyeing a Rolling Stones tour because he is desperate to earn more cash to cover his impending divorce from estranged wife Jo.
The insider adds, "Keith (Richards) is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way of getting back on his feet, both personally and financially, after all that's happened over the past several months."
Wood left his wife of 23-years in 2008 after his affair with 20-year-old Ekaterina Ivanova was exposed. He subsequently moved out of the family home and has offered Jo a reported $4.9 million (£3 million)-a-year divorce deal.

PartyDoll MEG wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 6:35am:

So far all I could find was this: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/wood%20pushes%20plans%20for%20stones%20tour_1093798 ROLLING STONES - WOOD PUSHES PLANS FOR STONES TOUR THE ROLLING STONES are reportedly putting plans in place for a 2009 tour - after guitarist RONNIE WOOD's hopes of reuniting THE FACES fell through. Wood was eager to get the seventies band back together, telling Rolling Stone magazine that he and former frontman Rod Stewart were working on new material and talking about a series of concert dates later this year (09). But Stewart dismissed the comeback reports, with his representative saying, "There are no plans for a Faces reunion tour this year." And now Wood has persuaded his Rolling Stones bandmates to consider taking to the road on a global jaunt - their first since 2006's A Bigger Bang tour - according to Britain's Daily Express. A source tells the publication, "Now that the Faces reunion seems to be off, Ronnie is free to perform with the Stones. There is this offer for a U.S. tour on the table. It's a good offer." However, it is alleged Wood is eyeing a Rolling Stones tour because he is desperate to earn more cash to cover his impending divorce from estranged wife Jo. The insider adds, "Keith (Richards) is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way of getting back on his feet, both personally and financially, after all that's happened over the past several months." Wood left his wife of 23-years in 2008 after his affair with 20-year-old Ekaterina Ivanova was exposed. He subsequently moved out of the family home and has offered Jo a reported $4.9 million (£3 million)-a-year divorce deal.

You guys KNOW how bad I want a Stones Tour, but Ronnie does NOT call the shots.

2010 makes much more sense to me AND, more importantly, MY BANK ACCOUNT!!!  :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

LJ.

the Daily Express article isnt online as yet, but it does indeed quote a 'close source' as saying  that they have a 'good offer' to tour the US later this year and are planning to do so.

That said, a lot of the article seems to be a case of putting two and two together and making five. It basically suggests that its only really coming about because Ronnie is available due to the Faces not touring (as if that would ever have taken precedence) and that a prime motivation for them touring is Ronnie's financial state. It also tellingly makes no mention of a new record - personally I'd be very surprised if the Stones, after having signed a new contract, would embark on a new tour without some 'product' to promote.

The funniest thing in the whole article was the 'source's remark about how they're in such good health for their age, citing that Keith "only eats organic food" (presumably his vodka is organic as well....)

Personally, I cant see them touring in 2009 for several reasons - the state of the economy (which will affect a Stones ticket more than that by anyone else), no sign of a new record being made as yet and the fact that U2 will probably be taking up a large share of the ticket-buying cake). That said, at least its good to know they're INTENDING to do so at some point in the future.

LJ - The ever-useless Contactmusic as usual have taken things out of context, with their heading suggesting that Woody is 'pushing' plans for a Stones tour. At no point in the Daily Express article does it say that.

Oh, my mistake, G. I thought I was looking at the same source.

Agreed that 2009 is unlikely but something appears to be in the works!!!!  8-)


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LJ.

.....even a few clubs would be sweet!

Crazier things could happen right?
Let Bruce & U2 slug it out for most of the year for touring
Then the Stones show up with a late arena '09 tour, moving into Winter '10
Maybe the carrot to them from the record company would be
release some remastered product with new tracks in the spring,
then come out with something in the fall, followed
by a tour.  Hell, maybe the new product would be Tattoo You II
with outs making enough for an lp?

[smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]Very Very Interesting...

please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres

lotsajizz wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 7:18am:

.....even a few clubs would be sweet!

:P

and the award for First Hopelessly Optimistic Post of Tour '09 goes to....

Gazza wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 7:39am:

lotsajizz wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:18am: .....even a few clubs would be sweet! :P and the award for First Hopelessly Optimistic Post of Tour '09 goes to....

Maybe the Woody thing will have some legs to make this happen?

http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/83297/Veteran-Stones-all-set-to-hit-the-road-again

Mick has not checked in....really folks. Mick has said many times the U.S./World economy plays THE deciding role...and we ALL know where that leads us.

Ronnie...you best get a real job (if you can find one)

Story is now online (edit - Thanks Ade - I didnt see youd posted the link)


VETERAN STONES ALL SET TO HIT THE ROAD AGAIN  

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/9/285x214/83297_1.jpg

THE LAST TIME? The Stones are going on tour
Wednesday February 4,2009

THEY’VE got a combined age of 258 but the hardest working band in rock ’n’ roll aren’t sitting at home in their tartan slippers.

The Rolling Stones are dusting off their guitars for a tour later this year.

Mick and Keith, both 65, ­Ronnie, 61, and Charlie, 67, are set for a multi-million-pound pay day by going on the road again.

And Ronnie Wood is keen on the idea so he can earn some cash to offset what looks to be a costly divorce from wife Jo.

The OAP rockers have drawn up plans for the American tour, which can now go ahead after a proposed Faces reunion fell by the wayside.

Ronnie was all set to perform with his old band, headed by Rod Stewart, later this year but those plans have been canned.

A source close to the band said: “There is this offer for a US tour on the table. It’s a good offer.

“They may be well into their 60s but the lads can still out-rock most of the bands around today.

“They live well. Mick is a very healthy eater and Keith only has organic meals. They are in great shape for their ages. They live for performing so they will relish being back on the road. It’s what they first got in the game to do.”

The band has performed hundreds of concerts with 38 tours across the globe in the past 46 years. The source continued: “Now that the Faces reunion seems to be off, Ronnie is free to perform with the Stones.


“Keith is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way for him to get back on his feet, both personally and ­financially, after all that’s happened over the past several months.”

The source added: “It will be great motivation for Ronnie because he loves playing live. The gigs will go down a storm I’m sure.”

It has emerged Ronnie is facing financial difficulties after spending his £2.5million share from the Stones’ 2007 Bigger Bang tour.

He has also sacked his manager Jamie, his stepson, who is the son of estranged wife Jo. Jamie handled all of Ronnie’s affairs.

Ronnie has been living it up in LA with 20-year-old toygirl lover Ekaterina Ivanova.

So how I wish this was true...but my bet is its Ronnie talking out of his ass again.This year in arenas theres no way you sell $400 tix.Maybe first 20 rows but the balanace of tickets would half to be in the $125 max range imo.That would make about a $2.5 million gross per night per arena. Hardly something to get Mick and Keith enthused about.With nothing new to promote why bother then? Hell Ronnie can paint his way to more money than this.

As most people have said, it would be great if they did tour.

The Stones wouldnt have to record any new material to release a product. I am sure there is no end of unreleased material they could shove together to produce something which, lets face it, we would buy.

I personally don´t believe that they tour this year,,,no talks about new album,they´ve usually started working on album,a year before tour start,or at least
9 months before.

As gazza pointed,world economy is in deep shit,iF that doesn´t rise up during summer,and it won´t.
And no tour.125 bucks is too expensive now.

Tina Turner is asking over 100euros for Helsinki show....its a miracle if its sold out,we have lots of people without work.

its a miracle if a tour happens this year.

Ian?

THE ROLLING STONES are reportedly putting plans in place for a 2009 tour - after guitarist RONNIE WOOD's hopes of reuniting THE FACES fell through. Wood was eager to get the seventies band back together, telling Rolling Stone magazine that he and former frontman Rod Stewart were working on new material and talking about a series of concert dates later this year (09).
But Stewart dismissed the comeback reports, with his representative saying, "There are no plans for a Faces reunion tour this year."
And now Wood has persuaded his Rolling Stones bandmates to consider taking to the road on a global jaunt - their first since 2006's A Bigger Bang tour - according to Britain's Daily Express.
A source tells the publication, "Now that the Faces reunion seems to be off, Ronnie is free to perform with the Stones. There is this offer for a U.S. tour on the table. It's a good offer."
However, it is alleged Wood is eyeing a Rolling Stones tour because he is desperate to earn more cash to cover his impending divorce from estranged wife Jo.
The insider adds, "Keith (Richards) is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way of getting back on his feet, both personally and financially, after all that's happened over the past several months."
Wood left his wife of 23-years in 2008 after his affair with 20-year-old Ekaterina Ivanova was exposed. He subsequently moved out of the family home and has offered Jo a reported $4.9 million (£3 million)-a-year divorce deal.

From contact music.com 02/04/2009 12:11:36 PM



Are the STONES working on a new album, repackaged or otherwise? I dont think they can push SHine A Light anymore, it's 'been there done that' so I would expect a new album before a tour. BACK TO THE STUDIO BOYS time it passes fast!

" The insider adds, "Keith (Richards) is particularly close to Ronnie and told him it would be a great way of getting back on his feet, both personally and financially, after all that's happened over the past several months."  

Now they can be good ' drinking buddies ' once again .

Developing .............................


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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1323/1222843898_5c70eabaaa.jpg?v=0

i'm so excited i'm typing this with my penis..........

:howefun

Bruce tickets are being snapped up fast — at a top price of $100. Therein lies the rub.

Joey, you are steaming HOT on a bitter cold day in Carolina

'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   :wtf3

Its the Rolling Stones Economic Stimulus Plan


Do we have to give Ronnie the money?

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:51am:

Its the Rolling Stones Economic Stimulus Plan Do we have to give Ronnie the money?

its stimulating my package

:retarded

speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 7:37am:

please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres

I second that!!! as if my opinion counts!! not!

“It has emerged Ronnie is facing financial difficulties after spending his £2.5million share from the Stones’ 2007 Bigger Bang tour.  “


How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year?

he's spent it all on fancy jackets............. not

bring back taylor .He would be cheap !

sc uk

straycatuk wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 12:36pm:

he's spent it all on fancy jackets............. not bring back taylor .He would be cheap !

I second that!  How much could the Twinkie tour rider cost?   And don't forget 2.5 million pounds is FIVE MILLION BUCKS.

Ronnie Wood is having financial troubles is a disgusting afront to every loyal Stones fan who shelled out a week's wages to go see him smoke, wave, and make faces on stage.

Do you think we are enabling the Ronnie (400 lb gorilla) by buying tickets ? I feel slightly sleazy doing it.  maybe I can figure out how to go for free somehow!!     I'm still paying for the money that Ronnie doesn't have anymore?!    why is everybody always bending over backwards to help Ronnie?  

sorry I'm such a bitch but GAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

It's a tough call.  I've never gone to a Stones show thinking "man, Woodies' gonna shred tonight."  I always looked at him thinking "shouldn't he be playing more?"  But he's managed to hold onto the gig, so good for him I suppose.  
The question is can the Stones still put on a great show.  If so, they deserve to be paid well.  Every major artist charges an arm and a leg these days.  Curious to know the price of the new Springsteen tix.

Zack wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 1:16pm:

It's a tough call.  I've never gone to a Stones show thinking "man, Woodies' gonna shred tonight."  I always looked at him thinking "shouldn't he be playing more?"  But he's managed to hold onto the gig, so good for him I suppose.   The question is can the Stones still put on a great show.  If so, they deserve to be paid well.  Every major artist charges an arm and a leg these days.  Curious to know the price of the new Springsteen tix.

$95 (with an extremely limited number of $65)

The bootlegs I heard of Werchter and I think Nijmegen 2007 were absolutely dreadful performance wise. They seemed to get it together as the tour went on but there is no excuse for putting on such a bad show regardless of the ticket price.

But my days of spending a 3 digit figure just for a stupid concert are over.

Ade wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:26am:

'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   :wtf3

Don't forget JJF,BS,HTW...zzzzzzzzzz

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 11:14am:

speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:37am: please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres I second that!!! as if my opinion counts!! not! “It has emerged Ronnie is facing financial difficulties after spending his £2.5million share from the Stones’ 2007 Bigger Bang tour.  “ How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year?

Hell one bank exec just spent 1.2 million on a bathroom upgrade (no not Joey) so it can be done!..As a matter of fact Mike Vick spent that much the week before going to jail.

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 11:14am:

speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:37am: please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres I second that!!! as if my opinion counts!! not! “It has emerged Ronnie is facing financial difficulties after spending his £2.5million share from the Stones’ 2007 Bigger Bang tour.  “ How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year?

hookers and blow....

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 11:14am:

speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:37am: please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year?

http://www.greenfacts.org/nl/begrippenlijst/images/cocaine.jpg

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 3:00pm:

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:14am: speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:37am: please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year? http://www.greenfacts.org/nl/begrippenlijst/images/cocaine.jpg

mmm hmmm.   its been awhile.  thanks for posting that picture there BBJ

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 3:00pm:

Tumbled wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:14am: speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:37am: please let them see the light and just play arenas and clubs/theatres How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year? http://www.greenfacts.org/nl/begrippenlijst/images/cocaine.jpg

That reminds me of the Super Blow,er Bowl party I went to. :pullanolte

Skiing at the superbowl were we?

was it like this????:

http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/PhotoGallery/AnimalsInSnow/

Since it is in fact a mad mad world we are living in just about anything is possible

i am thinking late spring/summer '10 myself, but this is all very exciting.

i think they should bring on a new set of songs before a tour and i hope they do stadiums.  

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 1:33pm:

Ade wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:26am: 'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   :wtf3 Don't forget JJF,BS,HTW...zzzzzzzzzz

One chord of JJF is worth more than an entire "boss" show & don't you chimps forget it! :shutthefuckup

Hmmm, this piece of news doesn't come completely as a surprise to me... And if true, I like Keith's subtle approach on the matter  ;D "Yeah, let's go out on the road, it's for Woody's sake man - and yes, I'll enjoy the tour by the way"

No seriously, it's about time, isn't it?  :areyoufuckingserious

Don't let the whole financial crisis get to you, if they're planning anything they're obviously planning it for later this year and this crisis should have gone full circle by then... Once down in the gutter, the only way to go is up and blah blah blah. I bet we're in for some Stones surprises - good ones - in 2009...  ;)

wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:28pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 1:33pm: Ade wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:26am: 'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   :wtf3 Don't forget JJF,BS,HTW...zzzzzzzzzz One chord of JJF is worth more than an entire "boss" show & don't you chimps forget it! :shutthefuckup

Their you go talking out of your  :kissmyass again.

" How in the hell do you spend 2.5 million in 1 year?  "
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/gliedo/Second/h8-latortitarusadelronnie.jpg
http://images.killermovies.com/h/houseofwax/paris_hilton.jpg

We will just have to turn a few more trix to get the money together!!!

wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:28pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 1:33pm: Ade wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:26am: 'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   :wtf3 Don't forget JJF,BS,HTW...zzzzzzzzzz One chord of JJF is worth more than an entire "boss" show & don't you chimps forget it! :shutthefuckup

Who the fuck mentioned Springsteen?? Oh wait, you did.  ::)

" We will just have to turn a few more trix to get the money ... "

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Gazza wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 10:41am:

wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:28pm: sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 1:33pm: Ade wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:26am: 'the boys' will be going into prolonged, drawn-out rehersals, any time now, to practise, those all important chords to 'Start Me Up' and 'You Got Me Rocking'   :wtf3 Don't forget JJF,BS,HTW...zzzzzzzzzz One chord of JJF is worth more than an entire "boss" show & don't you chimps forget it! :shutthefuckup Who the fuck mentioned Springsteen?? Oh wait, you did.  ::)

Yes, I did. He's the other tour this year besides U2, who I actually like.

Joey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 4:24pm:

" Yes, I did. He's the other tour this year besides U2, who I actually like. " What about Paul McCartney's upcoming world tour ?!

This tour has been "upcoming" for 2 years now. When is going to happen?

Well?

Joey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 4:24pm:

What about Paul McCartney's upcoming world tour ?! Well ?! www.MACCAREPORT.com

it ain't bringing JB back..........

Joey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 4:24pm:

" Yes, I did. He's the other tour this year besides U2, who I actually like. " What about Paul McCartney's upcoming world tour ?! Well ?! www.MACCAREPORT.com

Sorry, I'd rather have hernia surgery again than see either the "boss" or Macca.

Not anymore!

Joey wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 9:16pm:

" Not anymore " *** SIGH !!!! *** www.MACCAREPORT.com

The best big event this year is the Jesus Lizard reunion but I am not letting myself get excited in case it doesn't play here, they are only doing about 30 shows.

The most logical thing would be for them to say, yes, this is the last time.

Logically, it need not be said. We all know it'll be the last time. Let's not kid ourselves.

Get the tarps ready Ronnie!!!!!

Not if it's the last time. Ain't no real fans staying home this time unless their oxygen tanks are too heavy.

wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 2:22pm:

Not if it's the last time. Ain't no real fans staying home this time unless their oxygen tanks are too heavy.

10% unemployment in California, 7.5% nationwide and growing. "Real fans" might have nothing to do with it when you know they aren't lowering their prices. Everyone has had plenty of time to say their farewells since they have been touring more than ever the last decade or so.

Besides, in 1997 Keith said it was the last one before the next 5. That means we get one more after the next one.

In 2010 they'll turn 67. If they tour after that, I'll buy your bus ticket to the Hollywood Bowl. Deal?

wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 2:36pm:

In 2010 they'll turn 67. If they tour after that, I'll buy your bus ticket to the Hollywood Bowl. Deal?

You only need Mick and Keith to call it the Stones, regardless of the opinions of the fans. If they are alive and can still perform, even marginally, you have a tour.

If this tour happens, I am not even sure it will be full scale as I thought they needed to do a new album for Universal too. If that's the case, you have a short cash grab No Security type tour with an album/tour a year or so later.

Possible but not likely.

ijwthstd wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 2:45pm:

wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 2:36pm: In 2010 they'll turn 67. If they tour after that, I'll buy your bus ticket to the Hollywood Bowl. Deal? You only need Mick and Keith to call it the Stones, regardless of the opinions of the fans. If they are alive and can still perform, even marginally, you have a tour. If this tour happens, I am not even sure it will be full scale as I thought they needed to do a new album for Universal too. If that's the case, you have a short cash grab No Security type tour with an album/tour a year or so later.

I agree. No way will there be a new Stones studio album released in 2009 in time for a tour.

If they do go on the road - and I seriously doubt they will, THIS year anyway - it'll be a quick one. There's no need for them to do so, no new product to promote and the market is likely to still be pretty weak at least into 2010.

Will they bother rehearsing for a month or more just to go on the road for 6-7 weeks and do 20 shows?

Cant see it. They're going to be breaking the habits of a lifetime to do anything like that.

Gazza Wrote:

"I agree. No way will there be a new Stones studio album released in 2009 in time for a tour."


________________________


Gazza. Why do you feel this way? I thought we agreed you were going to stop being 100% pessimistic as far as your outlook on future Stones activity for your New Years Resolution :). Ok on a more serious note, ...We have absolutely no idea what they have going, or may have in previous material to form a base for an album?

I seriously can't see them touring without an album. Universal surely won't go for that concept and I think they'd put enormous pressure on them to make an album if they planned on touring (not that enormous pressure from any lable would totally matter to a group of their stature but still that may be a "no-no" move for them if they were to push for that concept right now) . Sure, we do not know "exactly" what that contract states ...however, it is more than logical to think that Universal surely wouldn't go for a tour starting in 2009 with no new album. Remember that was a major part of the deals purpose in the first place... =new album/albums

If they did not put out an album, they wouldn't even get started on a new record until some time in 2010! I am sure this would never fly with Universal. Besides ...I think they certainly WANT to record an album. Otherwise why would they sign an entire new record deal with a new album in that contract righty right?

They certainly didn't NEED a "new album clause" in a Stones record deal ...geez they have loads of other ones to offer as a lable's selling inventory.

The answer is simple: They want to record a new one. They certainly aren't in any sort of financial hard spot forcing them to do such.

If they tour, they'll record an album for it. It only makes sense.


Ian

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 4:52am:

Gazza Wrote: "I agree. No way will there be a new Stones studio album released in 2009 in time for a tour." ________________________ Gazza. Why do you feel this way? I thought we agreed you were going to stop being 100% pessimistic as far as your outlook on future Stones activity for your New Years Resolution :). Ok on a more serious note, ...We have absolutely no idea what they have going, or may have in previous material to form a base for an album? I seriously can't see them touring without an album. Universal surely won't go for that concept and I think they'd put enormous pressure on them to make an album if they planned on touring (not that enormous pressure from any lable would totally matter to a group of their stature but still that may be a "no-no" move for them if they were to push for that concept right now) . Sure, we do not know "exactly" what that contract states ...however, it is more than logical to think that Universal surely wouldn't go for a tour starting in 2009 with no new album. Remember that was a major part of the deals purpose in the first place... =new album/albums If they did not put out an album, they wouldn't even get started on a new record until some time in 2010! I am sure this would never fly with Universal. Besides ...I think they certainly WANT to record an album. Otherwise why would they sign an entire new record deal with a new album in that contract righty right? They certainly didn't NEED a "new album clause" in a Stones record deal ...geez they have loads of other ones to offer as a lable's selling inventory. The answer is simple: They want to record a new one. They certainly aren't in any sort of financial hard spot forcing them to do such. If they tour, they'll record an album for it. It only makes sense. Ian

Your last line answers the question you asked of me.  Its now February 7th.

Record a new album in time for a tour to start by, say, Sept-Oct 2009?

Not a prayer.

Agree with you about the Universal thing. They very well might make a record sometime this year, but I cant see them releasing one AND touring behind it in 2009.

Gazza wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 3:14pm:

ijwthstd wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 2:45pm: wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 2:36pm: In 2010 they'll turn 67. If they tour after that, I'll buy your bus ticket to the Hollywood Bowl. Deal? You only need Mick and Keith to call it the Stones, regardless of the opinions of the fans. If they are alive and can still perform, even marginally, you have a tour. If this tour happens, I am not even sure it will be full scale as I thought they needed to do a new album for Universal too. If that's the case, you have a short cash grab No Security type tour with an album/tour a year or so later. I agree. No way will there be a new Stones studio album released in 2009 in time for a tour. If they do go on the road - and I seriously doubt they will, THIS year anyway - it'll be a quick one. There's no need for them to do so, no new product to promote and the market is likely to still be pretty weak at least into 2010. Will they bother rehearsing for a month or more just to go on the road for 6-7 weeks and do 20 shows? Cant see it. They're going to be breaking the habits of a lifetime to do anything like that.

They can put a show together in 2 weeks. If it's arena only, less production preparation too. Live Nation has been bribing bands right back out on the road when previous plans called for an album first - Fleetwood Mac, No Doubt and possibly Aerosmith.

There are 2 sides of the coin, the economy may be bad but also maybe some bands are seeing the urgency to tour now while there is still some money to be made.

The economy will be back on track by next spring, maybe a bit later if this stimulus package actually takes effect. The Stones are meeting in March, they can record over the summer & mix in the fall (if they still indeed MIX!) & then gear up a tour for the Spring of next year. Don't forget they use the U2 crew & U2 is touring soon.

ijwthstd wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 2:45pm:

wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 2:36pm: In 2010 they'll turn 67. If they tour after that, I'll buy your bus ticket to the Hollywood Bowl. Deal? You only need Mick and Keith to call it the Stones, regardless of the opinions of the fans. If they are alive and can still perform, even marginally, you have a tour. If this tour happens, I am not even sure it will be full scale as I thought they needed to do a new album for Universal too. If that's the case, you have a short cash grab No Security type tour with an album/tour a year or so later.

No Charlie.
No Stones.

You'll NEVER see a Jagger/Richards Tour ala Page/Plant.
EVER

LJ.

As I recall the ABB album was recorded in a few weeks time at MICK's place in France, just MICK & KEEF putting the songs together. Then the studio mixes took a few months and the whole deal was done in much less than a year's time, so in 6 months or so there could be a new, completed album project, IF they put their effort into it. And some people will say ABB aint worth shit, and sounds like it was thrown together, but it's decent enough with 6 or 7 songs which I feel are Stones-worthy:
1. Laugh I Nearly Died
2. Back of My Hand
3. Oh No Not You Again
4. Rough Justice
5. This Place is Empty
6. Infamy
7. Streets Of Love

And so my point is, IT IS POSSIBLE for a tour starting at the end of 09!

Of course they will tour in 2009 to help Ronnie in his self-inflicted financial crisis !!!!

What they omitted to say is that they will tour only private clubs for the likes of Deutsche Bank and other not-so-ailing financial establishments....

:pullanolte

LadyJane wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 2:48pm:

ijwthstd wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 2:45pm: wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 2:36pm: In 2010 they'll turn 67. If they tour after that, I'll buy your bus ticket to the Hollywood Bowl. Deal? You only need Mick and Keith to call it the Stones, regardless of the opinions of the fans. If they are alive and can still perform, even marginally, you have a tour. If this tour happens, I am not even sure it will be full scale as I thought they needed to do a new album for Universal too. If that's the case, you have a short cash grab No Security type tour with an album/tour a year or so later. No Charlie. No Stones. You'll NEVER see a Jagger/Richards Tour ala Page/Plant. EVER LJ.

You got it! They pull that shit, I ain't going!

Gazza Wrote:

"Your last line answers the question you asked of me.  Its now February 7th.

Record a new album in time for a tour to start by, say, Sept-Oct 2009?

Not a prayer. "

__________________________________________________


Actually I think an arena tour would make the most sense right now. Possibly a tour that would start in Oct-Nov. Stadiums are a bit of a stretch right now, due to the economy, especially with other main acts touring.

-Again, I am just looking at what they have "said" recently (both Keith and Ronnie about recording).

-The record deal.

-And the fact that it is now four years since their last album and they are not exactly getting any younger. Universal wouldn't be keen at all on this concept of starting to record, then a tour without a finished product to release in which a tour would help sell it.. I can't see them touring again without new material.

*Really, starting to record, then breaking to tour, then recording after makes not a whole lot of sense to a band in their circumstance. I am not seeing it.

Given the circumstances ....If they already started (which they very well could of) there would be no problem in getting an album out for a tour in the late fall if they got down to work.  That is 10 months from now. They could already have several songs written or ready to be worked on as we speak.

I am not being too gung-ho about it. I am simply saying given the circumstances, a few reports, and their recent comments you can't rule out an album in the late fall with a tour. In fact, I'd go as far to  say it is very much more probable, and all the more likely they'll tour behind a new release versus touring without one. I don't see why in 10 or 11 months they couldn't have something ready (especially if they have some songs written already). They really only need four or five weeks to rehearse for a tour. I think they only had enough time for three weeks worth of rehearsals for the B2B tour? ...Am I correct on the previous statement? .... (which was rather short and pressing....but still four or five weeks should do).

*By the way ...why am I getting extreme Deja Vu right about now ..


Ian

Bitch wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 2:57pm:

As I recall the ABB album was recorded in a few weeks time at MICK's place in France, just MICK & KEEF putting the songs together. Then the studio mixes took a few months and the whole deal was done in much less than a year's time, so in 6 months or so there could be a new, completed album project, IF they put their effort into it.

they started it just after Charlie's cancer diagnosis - late summer 2004. They recorded in dribs and drabs after that and were still recording in spring 2005 (Ronnie added his parts around the week that he played his solo show at Drury Lane - mid March 2005)

However, and this partly is a response to what Ian says above - we KNEW a new record was in the works as far back as autumn 2004. The tour wasnt announced until 10 May 2005 and began in late August 2005. So there was actually a full year between it being known they were going to make a record and a tour starting.

Every time the Stones have toured behind a new * album for as long as I can remember - whilst we maybe only got a few months notice of a tour, it was common knowledge for a few months before any announcement that they were going to make a record. Even BTB, while they didnt record it until spring 1997, it was common knowledge that Mick and Keith had been working on songs in late 1996.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that any work has been undertaken with a view to a new record being made.


* I exclude the Licks tour from that because they didnt make a new album - prior to them announcing the tour on May 7 2002, whilst we knew a tour was on the cards, there was no definite word on a new release, so there was a bit of confusion about whether there would be a new album (there had been no indication to suggest they'd been recording) or whether they would be touring behind a boxed set of unreleased material. The deal between Universal and ABKCO to issue '40 Licks' was only finalised a day or two before the press conference, which was when they confirmed that they would release it - at that point, the compilation didnt have a name and they said that they would record some new songs for it as well, which were then recorded later that month.

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 4:55pm:

I am not being too gung-ho about it. [bI am simply saying given the circumstances, a few reports, and their recent comments [/by]ou can't rule out an album in the late fall with a tour. In fact, I'd go as far to  say it is very much more probable, and all the more likely they'll tour behind a new release versus touring without one. I don't see why in 10 or 11 months they couldn't have something ready (especially if they have some songs written already). They really only need four or five weeks to rehearse for a tour. I think they only had enough time for three weeks worth of rehearsals for the B2B tour? ...Am I correct on the previous statement? .... (which was rather short and pressing....but still four or five weeks should do). *By the way ...why am I getting extreme Deja Vu right about now .. Ian

The Stones always take at least a month to rehearse for a new tour

What reports and comments do you mean? I havent read any interviews with Mick or Keith lately which would indicate they'e about to make a new record or go on the road. If its some off the cuff remark Ronnie may have said, I wouldnt take it seriously.

I agree with you that they'd probably wait - and Universal would probably want them to - until they have a new studio album ready before they go on tour.

I also agree with you that they could have something ready in 10-11 months - but who embarks on a tour over Christmas? If the Stones are to play even 20 shows in 2009 that means they would have to be on the road no later than mid October. If it was a longer tour, you're talking about a month earlier if they're going to play 30 shows, etc. If they aren't on the road by September/mid October 2009, then they wont be touring in 2009 at all.

From past form, if they were to have a new album out by the autumn, they'd need by now to have the songs pretty much ready to record. There's been no indication of any inclination in the short term to make a new album. They'd really need to get cracking on it urgently.

wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 2:06pm:

The economy will be back on track by next spring, maybe a bit later if this stimulus package actually takes effect. The Stones are meeting in March, they can record over the summer & mix in the fall (if they still indeed MIX!) & then gear up a tour for the Spring of next year. Don't forget they use the U2 crew & U2 is touring soon.

Spring 2010 makes more sense to me too - both logistically and economically. However, the U2 thing isnt as big a deal as we used to believe. Both acts toured the US at the same time in late 2005. U2's tour continued into spring 2006 when the Stones were also still on tour.

Really? So I guess there's some overlap but they make it work?

Seemingly. You're right in that they do (or did) share some crew in common, but I guess some extras were brought in to deal with that.

When you think about it, it would be a pretty absurd scenario that either of the two biggest touring acts on the planet would be obliged to postpone their plans to go on the road and make something like half a billion dollars in possible gross just because some hired personnel are working elsewhere.

Gazza wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 7:47pm:

Seemingly. You're right in that they do (or did) share some crew in common, but I guess some extras were brought in to deal with that. When you think about it, it would be a pretty absurd scenario that either of the two biggest touring acts on the planet would be obliged to postpone their plans to go on the road and make something like half a billion dollars in possible gross just because some hired personnel are working elsewhere.

Especially in today's economy.

Gazza Wrote:

"There is absolutely nothing to suggest that any work has been undertaken with a view to a new record being made. "

_________________________________

When is there? Normally we find out months, and even over a year later "the where and when" of the writings/recordings. We have no clue if they have met for a few weeks here and again or not. I was told (from a pretty reputable source) that Mick and Keith met for a while in August 08 to work on a "project". But aside from that, we do not know what they are doing. I mean, by May of 2005, Mick and Keith had already laid the groundwork for the entire A Bigger Bang album ....and they were not spotted together in the same place up to that point even once. So just because we do not see them, or specifically know they are together writing or working something up doesn't mean they haven't here and there. Until the press conference in May of 05 everyone thought they hadn't done much, if anything at all up to that point and Mick said at the press conference the album was already 85% finished if that is any indication on there secretiveness.

*In reality, most of it isn't really secretiveness why we find out so much later with no spottings or mention previously. In today's day and age that notion is almost impossible. The press have good relations with the bands publicists, and their spokes people. Many times the press purposefully keep quiet, or do not post everything in assurance they will get first dibs, or respectful notice of a bigger acts affairs at a later time if it is something as simple as working on an album. This is why we often don't know anything when all the while these larger acts conduct business. It is some what a game with us. They get the full juicy story when it's time, we see it and read or buy the publications. The artist and their people are happy, the journalists/media are satisfied, and by the time it is purposefully let out we are thrilled with the news and know nothing of the respectful restraint that kept us in the dark for so long.   ....Anyway, you knew all that anyway lol

Your very right that "IF" they plan on touring in 2009 and are to record an album for this ...they had better be cracking on it good and well about now.  


Ian

These days,I'm not so sure about anything being kept secret. I don't think they could fart without it being mentioned on the internet. :areyoufuckingserious

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 10:29pm:

These days,I'm not so sure about anything being kept secret. I don't think they could fart without it being mentioned on the internet. :areyoufuckingserious

_______________________

*Well in reality, most of it isn't really secretiveness in why we find out so much later with no spotings or mention previously. In today's day and age that notion is almost impossible. The press have good relations with the bands publicists, and their spokes people. Many times the press purposefully keep quiet, or do not post everything in assurance they will get first dibs, or respectful notice of a bigger acts affairs at a later time if it is something as simple as working on an album. This is why we often don't know anything when all the while these larger acts conduct business. It is some what a game with us. They get the full juicy story when it's time, we see it and read or buy the publications. The artist and their people are happy, the journalists/media are satisfied, and by the time it is purposefully let out we are thrilled with the news and know nothing of the respectful restraint that kept us in the dark for so long.   ....Anyway, you most likely knew all that anyway lol :)


Ian

They do have a record deal, dont they?

Gazza wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 5:54pm:

wrote on Feb 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm: The economy will be back on track by next spring, maybe a bit later if this stimulus package actually takes effect. The Stones are meeting in March, they can record over the summer & mix in the fall (if they still indeed MIX!) & then gear up a tour for the Spring of next year. Don't forget they use the U2 crew & U2 is touring soon. Spring 2010 makes more sense to me too - both logistically and economically. However, the U2 thing isnt as big a deal as we used to believe. Both acts toured the US at the same time in late 2005. U2's tour continued into spring 2006 when the Stones were also still on tour.

I'd go along with that. The gap between tours is historically more towards 3 years apart from the gap between Licks 03' and ABB 05'

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 7^th, 2009 at 10:02pm:

Gazza Wrote: "There is absolutely nothing to suggest that any work has been undertaken with a view to a new record being made. " _________________________________ When is there? Normally we find out months, and even over a year later "the where and when" of the writings/recordings.

Seriously, thats absolute nonsense and has been pointed out to you by others several times before.  Exact details? No, but to suggest no one would have a clue that they were working on something is just absurd. A quick trail through the archives should do the trick.

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1220422301/83#83

the notion that in this day and age the band members' whereabouts wouldnt be public knowledge for months on end is nonsensical.

Joey wrote on Feb 8^th, 2009 at 10:39am:

" These days,I'm not so sure about anything being kept secret. I don't think they could fart without it being mentioned on the internet. " I feel ya ............................. That PorterHouse Steak I had for dinner last evening along with a twice baked potato , asparagus , salad and a rich chocolate cake for dessert has produced enough Lincoln Logs this morning to build a log cabin big enough for a friggin family of SIX !!!!! Oh, OH !!!!!! ..... OH GOD NO !!!!!!!!    : **** END TRANSMISSION !!!! ******

Exactly :-?

One thing we can count on..if anything starts to happen Ronnie will be blabbing it to anyone that will listen.

Especially if there's a Guinness handy...

wrote on Feb 8^th, 2009 at 1:51pm:

Especially if there's a Guinness handy...

Whenever I venture out I make sure I have plenty of cash and I keep my eyes peeled for a dead cat shaped like a rooster. When I run into him I will let you know what happens.

Get an autograph! Bring Guinness!

Well it is entirely possible that MICK & KEEF have written some songs independantly, like I remember reading KEEF say about ABB when they got together KEEF asked MICK "What you got?" and MICK had several songs in the works. Then KEEF showed MICK what he had been working on and so by the time they got together they already had more than enough material to work with. I'm sure some of those unused songs might get another shake and new ones have yet to be looked at. As Stones material the songs have to be liked by both MICK & KEEF.

" Well it is entirely possible that MICK & KEEF have written some songs independantly, like I remember reading KEEF say about ABB when they got together KEEF asked MICK "What you got?" and MICK had several songs in the works. Then KEEF showed MICK what he had been working on and so by the time they got together they already had more than enough material to work with. I'm sure some of those unused songs might get another shake and new ones have yet to be looked at. As Stones material the songs have to be liked by both MICK & KEEF. "


Concur . BITCH !

IndependEntly !   Hi Ellen!

Mick is growing his hair out.

Gazza Wrote:

the notion that in this day and age the band members' whereabouts wouldnt be public knowledge for months on end is nonsensical.

______________________________

Not months .... but a few weeks here and there sure. For instance what did The Stones do for the past couple weeks?

(We know Ronnie looked for a house with the Rusky... and thats about it).  

Where was Keith? Where is Charlie? What did Mick do all last week? I am NOT saying they were together recording. What I'm saying is we have no clue if they spoke, had drinks, slept over each others house for a couple days, been meeting for lunch on Tuesdays  or what etc. etc.

So how are we to know if they have not already started the ball rolling or have been rolling on it here and again? That is my point.

Ian

Where ever Keith is, Mick sure aint there.

Mick's in London trying to win it back.

" mccartney sucked . "


WHAT ?!


http://www.maccareport.com/


" US TICKET ALERT!!!! "


" Paul McCartney in concert at The New Joint at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Las Vegas on Sunday, April 19


Tickets go on-sale Saturday, February 14 at noon PT
Tickets at the Hard Rock Hotel Box Office, Ticketmaster locations, online at Ticketmaster.com or charge-by-phone at 800-745-3000 "


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Ian Billen wrote on Feb 8^th, 2009 at 9:43pm:

Gazza Wrote: the notion that in this day and age the band members' whereabouts wouldnt be public knowledge for months on end is nonsensical. ______________________________ Not months .... but a few weeks here and there sure. For instance what did The Stones do for the past couple weeks? (We know Ronnie looked for a house with the Rusky... and thats about it).   Where was Keith? Where is Charlie? What did Mick do all last week? I am NOT saying they were together recording. What I'm saying is we have no clue if they spoke, had drinks, slept over each others house for a couple days, been meeting for lunch on Tuesdays  or what etc. etc. So how are we to know if they have not already started the ball rolling or have been rolling on it here and again? That is my point. Ian

We WOULD know. That's mine. Simple.

theres been a lot of heated talk on the jazz boards about Andy Snitzer cancelling a September gig in Boca Raton to clear his schedule for a possible fall tour.

Who is Andy Spritzer and why is he clearing his schedule?

Saint Sway wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 10:32am:

theres been a lot of heated talk on the jazz boards about Andy Snitzer cancelling a September gig in Boca Raton to clear his schedule for a possible fall tour.

my sources will tell me when a certain proctologist in Boca Raton packs his bags to accompany a special patient the tour is on.............

Tumbled wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 10:42am:

Who is Andy Spritzer and why is he clearing his schedule?

One of the horn players.....Man we now have to consider rumours about some horn guy "clearing" his schedule...lmaaaoooooo...Next tour if it happens better re-inforce the stage to hold all the "extras"

somebody log in and try and hire Andy for September, October and November and see what happens!!

http://www.esession.com/?Menu=SearchHome&nUserID=1129

From Tim Ries' most recent Blog entry:

TORONTO REHEARSALS
"The rehearsals here in Toronto are off to a fantastic start. Everyone is in a good mood and the band is sounding tight. I'm especially pleased with the new horn arrangements we've added to some Stones classics. I really think the fans are going to love the horns we've added to "When The Whip Comes Down". And the new horn intro on "Star Star" really makes it swing."

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 11:25am:

Tumbled wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 10:42am: Who is Andy Spritzer and why is he clearing his schedule? One of the horn players.....

He WAS one of the horn players...in 1994-1998.

[/quote]

He WAS one of the horn players...in 1994-1998.[/quote]

which is often referred to with great regard by Stones purists as "The Glory Years" or "The Snitzer Era"


the mere rumor of him returning and adding his smooth trumpet flourishes to the Stones live show has die hard fans foaming at the mouth once again

erikjjf wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 12:05pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 11:25am: Tumbled wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 10:42am: Who is Andy Spritzer and why is he clearing his schedule? One of the horn players..... He WAS one of the horn players...in 1994-1998.

Sorry I wasnt up to date on the horn section as we speak. For me limit all horns to a total of 5 minutes and only Bobby Keys......

Is Spitzer that governator who got into trouble? Of course he's open for offers!

unfortunately Bobby Keys Stones legacy will be most remembered for having introduced Ronnie Wood to smoking crack.


from that point on, Ronnie was never the same

It's been 30 years!

Andy Snitzer aka the 15th Stone.

in reality, I can't see them touring for the sake of Ronnie's wallet

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 1:13pm:

Andy Snitzer aka the 15th Stone.

postin above the rim!

speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 1:16pm:

in reality, I can't see them touring for the sake of Ronnie's wallet

With economic situation I cant see Mick or Keith wanting to risk embarassment of a Super Tarp Tour. Unless maybe they got Madoffed?

THIS JUST IN from Rolling Stones dot com:

if you spend $50 or more on Stones wear between now an Valentines Day, they'll send you a pin!


can you feel the love or what?

Saint Sway wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 12:10pm:

the mere rumor of him returning and adding his smooth trumpet flourishes to the Stones live show has die hard fans foaming at the mouth once again

Smooth saxophone, in that case.

I'm actually with Ian on this one. Mick said he was always writing during a SAL interview a while back. I'm sure Keith spends some time writing music as well. The Stones can all record music at their homes and send tracks to each other and work on them that way. Then there are unreleased/unfinished songs they could work on...Once the songs are written and roughly recorded they only have to meet for a short time to really produce them and put the finishing touches on 'em.

The only way they could tour and make a profit in this Recession cum Depression is to swap Wood for Taylor and play some some good old tunes with a BLUES edge!!!

Gazza Wrote:

"We WOULD know. That's mine. Simple."

______________________


I think I understand what you're sayin now. In other words, "IF" The Stones had started. Someone who knows the camp, a studio hang about, a friend, or someone would of mentioned this to one of us or stated this in which we would of gotten wind of that mention by now. Or we would of known by a leak of some sort. I can understand your point there.  There's sense to that thought process. Still, I think it's just as possible they have started and nobody has let anything out of the bag or "leaked" anything just yet in the same right. Also I was not into the notion of the press releasing something if all wasn't optimal for such just yet.

In other words your saying if something like that is going down we would of got word of something some way, some how by now. I see your point.  I'm just not so sure of that as you are is all.

Ian

ijwthstd wrote on Feb 4^th, 2009 at 1:22pm:

Zack wrote on Feb 4th, 2009 at 1:16pm: It's a tough call.  I've never gone to a Stones show thinking "man, Woodies' gonna shred tonight."  I always looked at him thinking "shouldn't he be playing more?"  But he's managed to hold onto the gig, so good for him I suppose.   The question is can the Stones still put on a great show.  If so, they deserve to be paid well.  Every major artist charges an arm and a leg these days.  Curious to know the price of the new Springsteen tix. $95 (with an extremely limited number of $65) The bootlegs I heard of Werchter and I think Nijmegen 2007 were absolutely dreadful performance wise. They seemed to get it together as the tour went on but there is no excuse for putting on such a bad show regardless of the ticket price. But my days of spending a 3 digit figure just for a stupid concert are over.

I didn't get any boots from 07, heard too many bad reports of performance sucked. I really doubt if they will tour this year. No news yet unless it's a surprise. :booze

" The only way they could tour and make a profit in this Recession cum Depression is to swap Wood for Taylor and play some some good old tunes with a BLUES edge !!!! "



It is definitely an economic depression that will take Obama ( " THE ONE !!! " )  years to pull our country out of such a horrific FUNK  !!!!!


That being said ....... Why NOT tour ?


'kins  

Ian Billen wrote on Feb 10^th, 2009 at 12:29am:

Gazza Wrote: In other words your saying if something like that is going down we would of got word of something some way, some how by now. I see your point.  I'm just not so sure of that as you are is all. Ian

Ian,
I have a source who lives next door to Blondie Chapin and has recently spotted him practicing slapping a tamborine against his chest.

Obviously a Stones tour is quite imminent.

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 1:22pm:

speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 1:16pm: in reality, I can't see them touring for the sake of Ronnie's wallet With economic situation I cant see Mick or Keith wanting to risk embarassment of a Super Tarp Tour. Unless maybe they got Madoffed?

this just in from highwire services.....president omaha is looking to extend the TARP(troubled ancient rockers program) for the next tour which got its start on the last stones tour.........

mojoman wrote on Feb 10^th, 2009 at 3:31pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 1:22pm: speedfreakjive wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 1:16pm: in reality, I can't see them touring for the sake of Ronnie's wallet With economic situation I cant see Mick or Keith wanting to risk embarassment of a Super Tarp Tour. Unless maybe they got Madoffed? this just in from highwire services.....president omaha is looking to extend the TARP(troubled ancient rockers program) for the next tour which got its start on the last stones tour.........

LOL....Line item 123,457......455 million for Cohl Enterprises.(plus 87 million fanclub fees and service charge).over sight not required...cash only

No, Ronnie does not call the shots.  I had been thinking maybe Keith has been taking it kind of easy, but I have not kept up with him that much.  Ronnie is so talented and so stupid.  Leaving Jo, doing all that stupid stuff, ruining his marriage.  Very silly and sad :booze :'(

when Rolling Stones Dot Com emails us and asks for $150 to "renew" our membership, we'll know ITS ON

Saint Sway wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 11:30am:

From Tim Ries' most recent Blog entry: TORONTO REHEARSALS "The rehearsals here in Toronto are off to a fantastic start. Everyone is in a good mood and the band is sounding tight. I'm especially pleased with the new horn arrangements we've added to some Stones classics. I really think the fans are going to love the horns we've added to "When The Whip Comes Down". And the new horn intro on "Star Star" really makes it swing."

WTF!!!
Andy Snitzer RETURNS?????
AND NOW THIS????

I never liked the horn section,maybe one sax and that´s all like in the ´81 tour.This tour rumour turned into a horrible joke.Yes,bring back Ernie Watts,Jim Price and Cindy Mizelle :willya

If they really add horns to When The Wip Comes Down and Star Star it´s the beginning of the end and clearly a sign of Keith´s losing his touch. :wtf3

But as I said maybe is a horrible joke... :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

:aimama

my sources say that blog entry is quite old and it is referring to tim's recent cd release of stones songs done his way.  it's pretty goood, really!  

I am a big fan of Matt Clifford myself. He scored Return Of The Living Dead, which is the 3rd greatest movie of all time.

Holden wrote on Feb 9^th, 2009 at 2:52pm:

I'm actually with Ian on this one. Mick said he was always writing during a SAL interview a while back. I'm sure Keith spends some time writing music as well. The Stones can all record music at their homes and send tracks to each other and work on them that way. Then there are unreleased/unfinished songs they could work on...Once the songs are written and roughly recorded they only have to meet for a short time to really produce them and put the finishing touches on 'em.

I've heard little evidence in the last decade to suggest this.

From what I understand, there won't be a Rolling Stones studio album in 2009. Next year is more realistic.

The gradual disappearance of most of their post-1970 catalogue from the shelves of late would suggest that Universal are gearing up for a reissue series in the near future, however.

Hopefully that will include bonus material, because if it doesn't, you'd have to question why they bothered investing in it.

Gazza wrote on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 6:50am:

Holden wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 2:52pm: I'm actually with Ian on this one. Mick said he was always writing during a SAL interview a while back. I'm sure Keith spends some time writing music as well. The Stones can all record music at their homes and send tracks to each other and work on them that way. Then there are unreleased/unfinished songs they could work on...Once the songs are written and roughly recorded they only have to meet for a short time to really produce them and put the finishing touches on 'em. I've heard little evidence in the last decade to suggest this. From what I understand, there won't be a Rolling Stones studio album in 2009. Next year is more realistic. The gradual disappearance of most of their post-1970 catalogue from the shelves of late would suggest that Universal are gearing up for a reissue series in the near future, however. Hopefully that will include bonus material, because if it doesn't, you'd have to question why they bothered investing in it.

And question even more why we would invest in them AGAIN.....

Well, thats my point. There's a limit to how many people would bother buying these for the 3rd, 4th or 5th time without having some kind of 'carrot' dangled in front of them.

Personally, I think if there's unreleased material, I'll just buy the 'new' songs on i-tunes this time.

Gazza wrote on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 7:32am:

Well, thats my point. There's a limit to how many people would bother buying these for the 3rd, 4th or 5th time without having some kind of 'carrot' dangled in front of them. Personally, I think if there's unreleased material, I'll just buy the 'new' songs on i-tunes this time.

Great idea except if you notice ITunes lately will show those songs as "album only" which pisses me off.I use a Russian site for downloads at 15-19 cents each because Limewire etc is now so full of viruses. The Russian site works and although mp3 for most tunes my old ears (defeaned by Stones concerts etc) cant tell the diff. Its very secure site too and never ripped me or friends off although sometimes new releases are a week or so behind.Heres a link:

http://www.gomusic.ru/

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 8:11am:

Gazza wrote on Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:32am: Well, thats my point. There's a limit to how many people would bother buying these for the 3rd, 4th or 5th time without having some kind of 'carrot' dangled in front of them. Personally, I think if there's unreleased material, I'll just buy the 'new' songs on i-tunes this time. Great idea except if you notice ITunes lately will show those songs as "album only" which pisses me off.I use a Russian site for downloads at 15-19 cents each because Limewire etc is now so full of viruses. The Russian site works and although mp3 for most tunes my old ears (defeaned by Stones concerts etc) cant tell the diff. Its very secure site too and never ripped me or friends off although sometimes new releases are a week or so behind.Heres a link: http://www.gomusic.ru/

thanks for the heads up, keef!

I'll just pony up for the new CD's. It's the Stones, not some second-tier act.

" I'll just pony up for the ..... "




http://www.theatrebreaks.com/partydilemmas/frenchman.gif !!!!!

You got it punk!

star star is coming back, oh yea.............................................. :aimama

Ronnie Wood threatened with axe  

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Monday, 16 February 2009

Ronnie Wood faces being axed from the Rolling Stones because of his drinking.

The 61-year-old rocker - who has been treated for alcoholism several times over the last 30 years - has been warned to curb his partying or risk being banned from a proposed autumn tour of America with bandmates Sir Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Charlie Watts.

A source told Britain's Daily Express newspaper: "All the band have to have a compulsory pre-tour medical to make sure they can get insurance.

"Ronnie failed his medical for the 2002/2003 tour because he was drinking seven times the recommended number of alcohol units a week. He had to spend months drying out at a clinic in Arizona.

"There are worries that could be the case again this time."

Ronnie was most recently treated for his alcohol addiction last August at the Life Works clinic in Surrey, England, following a 10-day drinking binge in Ireland with Russian girlfriend Ekaterina Ivanova, 20.

If he is banned from touring, Ronnie risks losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds.

The 'Satisfaction' rockers' 'Bigger Bang' world tour, which took place between August 2005 and August 2007, was the highest-grossing of all time, generating $558,255,524.

The group were also named the highest-paid private performers last year, commanding a staggering £3.5 million per private show.

(C) BANG Media International

Gazza wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:23am:

Ronnie Wood threatened with axe   http://www.myparkmag.co.uk/images/celebrity/1234778794150x150.jpg Monday, 16 February 2009 Ronnie Wood faces being axed from the Rolling Stones because of his drinking. The 61-year-old rocker - who has been treated for alcoholism several times over the last 30 years - has been warned to curb his partying or risk being banned from a proposed autumn tour of America with bandmates Sir Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Charlie Watts. A source told Britain's Daily Express newspaper: "All the band have to have a compulsory pre-tour medical to make sure they can get insurance. "Ronnie failed his medical for the 2002/2003 tour because he was drinking seven times the recommended number of alcohol units a week. He had to spend months drying out at a clinic in Arizona. "There are worries that could be the case again this time." Ronnie was most recently treated for his alcohol addiction last August at the Life Works clinic in Surrey, England, following a 10-day drinking binge in Ireland with Russian girlfriend Ekaterina Ivanova, 20. If he is banned from touring, Ronnie risks losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds. The 'Satisfaction' rockers' 'Bigger Bang' world tour, which took place between August 2005 and August 2007, was the highest-grossing of all time, generating $558,255,524. The group were also named the highest-paid private performers last year, commanding a staggering £3.5 million per private show. (C) BANG Media International

Not surprised about the warning.
VERY surprised about the term "Autumn Tour".
2009??

LJ.

Yeah that seems questionable. As I write, there are no current recording sessions happening.

I thought this tthread was about something Jo was planning.....

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Ronnie Wood threatened with axe
Monday, 16 February 2009

Ronnie Wood faces being axed from the Rolling Stones because of his drinking.

The 61-year-old rocker - who has been treated for alcoholism several times over the last 30 years - has been warned to curb his partying or risk being banned from a proposed autumn tour of America with bandmates Sir Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Charlie Watts.

A source told Britain's Daily Express newspaper: "All the band have to have a compulsory pre-tour medical to make sure they can get insurance.

"Ronnie failed his medical for the 2002/2003 tour because he was drinking seven times the recommended number of alcohol units a week. He had to spend months drying out at a clinic in Arizona.

"There are worries that could be the case again this time."

Ronnie was most recently treated for his alcohol addiction last August at the Life Works clinic in Surrey, England, following a 10-day drinking binge in Ireland with Russian girlfriend Ekaterina Ivanova, 20.

If he is banned from touring, Ronnie risks losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds.

The 'Satisfaction' rockers' 'Bigger Bang' world tour, which took place between August 2005 and August 2007, was the highest-grossing of all time, generating $558,255,524.

The group were also named the highest-paid private performers last year, commanding a staggering £3.5 million per private show.

(C) BANG Media International

This is the best news I've read in a while: the possibility that the core of the band is at least open to the idea of touring without Ronnie. Before anyone gets upset, I don't wish the man ill — but I've got serious doubts about paying hundreds again to see him flail uselessly for two hours.

Putting someone like, say, Wachtel in the mix would spare Keith from demonstrating his own useless flailing.

"Is everybody ready? Everything seems to be ready..."

This is great news because You know its on for sure whenever Mick shoves Ronnie's drunk ass in rehab!

its on like donkey kong Tater!

it would be a crying shame to lose ronnie.

If Ronnie's out then so am I.

He is crucial. We need Ronnie to play Summer Romance and Let Me Go on the b-stage



also Mick is fully aware that Dole Banana's would most likely drop their sponsorship if Ronnie was cut

Mel Belli wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 11:16am:

This is the best news I've read in a while: the possibility that the core of the band is at least open to the idea of touring without Ronnie. Before anyone gets upset, I don't wish the man ill — but I've got serious doubts about paying hundreds again to see him flail uselessly for two hours. Putting someone like, say, Wachtel in the mix would spare Keith from demonstrating his own useless flailing.

Sooo......if both Ronnie and Keith basically just flail for a couple of hours on stage each night.....is that really the Rolling Stones anymore? :( Mick is always "on", and so is Charlie, but..... :-/

Saint Sway wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 2:29pm:

He is crucial. We need Ronnie to play Summer Romance and Let Me Go on the b-stage

yeah but how good is he if he is 4 sheets to the wind?

:smoking

MICK is warning Ronnie to sober up or be kicked off the tour. Thats a good thing and Ronnie will have to dry out. Do you think MICK will allow babyKat to creep into the RS entourage? I think MICK wont like her around on the tour, neither will KEEF because the wife's stick together. Patti and Jo were friends for a long time. I'm sure nobody approves of Katia.

Bring back Taylor!!!  There's an idea!

Oops, but he's seven times over the recommended twinkie units per week.  Yikes! :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

Bitch wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 10:06pm:

Do you think MICK will allow babyKat to creep into the RS entourage? I think MICK wont like her around on the tour

oh yeah thats right  ::) having pretty young girls around is one of Mick's biggest pet peaves  ;)   :howefun


I give 2-1 odds that Mick bangs her before the first tarps are even put down on the tour

"  Do you think MICK will allow babyKat to creep into the RS entourage? "

Yes , Kat will join the tour as a ' back - up ' singer .


JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJACKY !!!!!!!

please allow me to shed some light on Ronnie's situation....

you see, a Rolling Stone approaches dating women much the way you approach leasing a car:
When the mileage gets too high and it starts to show some wear and tear, you just trade it in for a younger model.

Joey wrote on Feb 17^th, 2009 at 11:17am:

"  Do you think MICK will allow babyKat to creep into the RS entourage? " Yes , Kat will join the tour as a ' back - up ' singer . JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJACKY !!!!!!!

One hip check from Lisa will send her flying up to the 300/400 sections........Course she'll be fine landing in the tarps

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 17^th, 2009 at 11:25am:

One hip check from Lisa will send her flying up to the 300/400 sections........Course she'll be fine landing in the tarps

posting waaaaaaaaaaaay above the rim gimmeK !!!

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Zack wrote on Feb 17^th, 2009 at 5:29am:

Bring back Taylor!!!  There's an idea!

Amen to that, brother!    :booze

Mick Taylor is in negotiations with Subway to replace Jared........

" Mick Taylor is in negotiations with Subway to replace Jared "






http://www.grioo.com/images/rubriques/7/1005.jpg !!!!!!

Keith nixed that idea long ago.

I was listening to the Alice Cooper radio show last night and he said tour info for the Stones 2009 tour would be announced any day now.

Gimme Shelter wrote on Feb 25^th, 2009 at 1:31pm:

I was listening to the Alice Cooper radio show last night and he said tour info for the Stones 2009 tour would be announced any day now.

really?

" I was listening to the Alice Cooper radio show last night and he said tour info for the Stones 2009 tour would be announced any day now "


I am now so excited that I am typing this with me nipples .

Joey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2009 at 4:57pm:

" I was listening to the Alice Cooper radio show last night and he said tour info for the Stones 2009 tour would be announced any day now " I am now so excited that I am typing this with me nipples .

I am so excited I can't eat! (Which is good because I am going to have to stop if I am going to be able to afford tickets).

It's only money. In LA the fruit grows on trees, no?

Joey wrote on Feb 17^th, 2009 at 11:17am:

"   Yes , Kat will join the tour as a ' back - up ' singer .

"Yeah, that's it, baby.  Now, back up!  Uh-huuuuh!" :kissmyass

Early reports from the Brazen Head indicate that Darryl Jones is getting into tour shape!!!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GGwHfSR5Tcs/STVc7MASBKI/AAAAAAAAAgU/mMBYEc7olRk/s400/fat-guy.jpg

The Tour's on Ronnie!!!

Gimme Shelter wrote on Feb 25^th, 2009 at 1:31pm:

I was listening to the Alice Cooper radio show last night and he said tour info for the Stones 2009 tour would be announced any day now.

Well isnt it past "anyday" by now?

I'm so psyched!!!
Coop will be the first to break the news on his show and party with all of us in The Rattlesnake Lounge!!




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here's what we know so far....



The tour will kick off in Boston on September 5th.

It will be called "The Rolling Stones / Down In The Hole" presented by Citigroup.

Opening acts will vary and include Alice Cooper, Katie Perry, Will I.Am, The Fray, Hoobastank, Buddy Guy and a special 2 night engagement with The Jonas Brothers at Los Angeles' famed Hollywood Palladium.

The tour will reach over 40 cities and be a mix of stadiums, arenas, theatres, taverns, VFW Halls, fairs, block parties, flea markets, in-store appearances, coffee houses and street busking.

" Early reports from the Brazen Head indicate that Darryl Jones is getting into tour shape!!!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GGwHfSR5Tcs/STVc7MASBKI/AAAAAAAAAgU/mMBYEc7olRk/s400/fat-guy.jpg

This makes joey laugh .


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