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Ten Thousand Motels Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,797 Gender:	Keith as "proto-punk" Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:02am Keith....the first punk rocker? Or was that Elvis? Or was that Jerry Lee Lewis? Or is it all just that same as it ever was?
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Ten Thousand Motels Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,797 Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #1 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am Do people actually dress like this anymore???
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Zack Rocks Off Regular Offline Chiba Face Rules You Bastards! Posts: 1,727 Dakar Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #2 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:13am Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:02am: Keith....the first punk rocker? Or was that Elvis? Or was that Jerry Lee Lewis? Or is it all just that same as it ever was? It was Pdog.
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open-g Rocks Off Regular Offline Silence is golden, Duct tape is silver Posts: 617 Berlin Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #3 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:58am
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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #4 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 10:58am Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am: Do people actually dress like this anymore??? Did they ever????
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open-g Rocks Off Regular Offline Silence is golden, Duct tape is silver Posts: 617 Berlin Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #5 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 3:20pm Sioux wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 10:58am: Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am: Do people actually dress like this anymore??? Did they ever???? They did and they still do - I see 'em in the streets every day. ...and takin' a closer look at that pic - heck, that's from here, Berlin.
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Re: Keith as "proto-punk"
Reply #6 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 6:20pm

open-g wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 3:20pm:

Sioux wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 10:58am:

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am:

Do people actually dress like this anymore???

Did they ever???? Tongue

They did and they still do - I see 'em in the streets every day.
...and takin' a closer look at that pic - heck, that's from here, Berlin.

Yeah, I know. I was being droll again... Wink

Love the skirts...........well, then again, maybe not....

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Pdog Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 6,123 aTx Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #7 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 6:32pm Eddie Cochran was the first punk rocker... and Yes... a lot still dress like that!!!! fyi.. this night rocked, we went to Luche Libre, mexican wrestling, and they thought some of my homeys were there to wrestle!!!
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Re: Keith as "proto-punk"
Reply #9 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:48pm

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am:

Do people actually dress like this anymore???

Absolutely!
We get plenty of them here in New Orleans.
N.O. is one of the few cities in America where "gutter punks" don't get much flak.
Rolling Stone had an article on them a few years ago. These kids travel the country in rail cars, sleeping in empty houses, etc.
"Spanging" is one of their sources of income. "Got any spare change?"
They usually travel in small groups, and almost always have a dog or two with them.
The main reason for having a dog is to keep from being arrested for petty crimes like panhandling, loitering, etc.
When the police arrest one of these kids, they have to get the SPCA involved to take care of the animal, so the cops will usually overlook the petty stuff.
What a life, huh?

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stonedinaustralia Rocks Off Regular Offline wake up crackers or we all through!! Posts: 859	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #10 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 8:14pm Pdog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 6:32pm: Eddie Cochran was the first punk rocker... was about to say Gene Vincent for my proto type - Keith is uberpunk
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Reply #11 - Nov 18^th, 2008 at 9:21pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:48pm:

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am:

Do people actually dress like this anymore???

Absolutely!
We get plenty of them here in New Orleans.
N.O. is one of the few cities in America where "gutter punks" don't get much flak.
Rolling Stone had an article on them a few years ago. These kids travel the country in rail cars, sleeping in empty houses, etc.
"Spanging" is one of their sources of income. "Got any spare change?"
They usually travel in small groups, and almost always have a dog or two with them.
The main reason for having a dog is to keep from being arrested for petty crimes like panhandling, loitering, etc.
When the police arrest one of these kids, they have to get the SPCA involved to take care of the animal, so the cops will usually overlook the petty stuff.
What a life, huh?

damn near perfect til everyone is strung out... some of the nicest, most loyal and creative people I know... Alot come to Austin via the trains. NYC, SF are great, LA will suck you up and kill you!
My fave punx come from Boston... God bless em', something about that town. Breeds the toughest hovkey loving punk rockers, with the biggest smiles and you know, you just know, these homeys aren't gonna leave you if you get jumped.

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Re: Keith as "proto-punk"
Reply #12 - Nov 19^th, 2008 at 7:33am

Pdog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 9:21pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:48pm:

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 18^th, 2008 at 7:11am:

Do people actually dress like this anymore???

Absolutely!
We get plenty of them here in New Orleans.
N.O. is one of the few cities in America where "gutter punks" don't get much flak.
Rolling Stone had an article on them a few years ago. These kids travel the country in rail cars, sleeping in empty houses, etc.
"Spanging" is one of their sources of income. "Got any spare change?"
They usually travel in small groups, and almost always have a dog or two with them.
The main reason for having a dog is to keep from being arrested for petty crimes like panhandling, loitering, etc.
When the police arrest one of these kids, they have to get the SPCA involved to take care of the animal, so the cops will usually overlook the petty stuff.
What a life, huh?

damn near perfect til everyone is strung out... some of the nicest, most loyal and creative people I know... Alot come to Austin via the trains. NYC, SF are great, LA will suck you up and kill you!
My fave punx come from Boston... God bless em', something about that town. Breeds the toughest hovkey loving punk rockers, with the biggest smiles and you know, you just know, these homeys aren't gonna leave you if you get jumped.

VIVA BOSTON!

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Re: Keith as "proto-punk"
Reply #13 - Nov 19^th, 2008 at 7:47am

I'm going to say KEEF had a punk-rock attitude but not the punk rock musical style. I think the Ramones were the best punk rockers.

Yes, people DO dress like this especially in NYC and in NJ too. Everyday punk! Now it's accentuated by multiple tattoos and body/face piercings. Some people have large holes in their ears, it's scary looking!

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Reply #14 - Nov 19^th, 2008 at 7:55am

Bitch wrote on Nov 19^th, 2008 at 7:47am:

I'm going to say KEEF had a punk-rock attitude but not the punk rock musical style. I think the Ramones were the best punk rockers.

Yes, people DO dress like this especially in NYC and in NJ too. Everyday punk! Now it's accentuated by multiple tattoos and body/face piercings. Some people have large holes in their ears, it's scary looking!

Well, extremism is never a good thing. But as far as the music goes, one of my sincere regrets in life is that I didn't pay as much attention to punk rock when it was in its heyday. Prejudice and preconcieved ideas can blind you though.

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Reply #15 - Nov 19^th, 2008 at 7:04pm

Agreed. And fear! I thought some of them were downright scary looking. Big safety pins through the cheeks and all......the Sex Pistols looked pretty nasty to me.....

Didn't get into the music until much later. Maybe punk was before its time......? I still think that the Kinks "You Really Got Me" could qualify as the first punk song. And I LOVED it. Went out right way with my 95 cents to buy it on 45 in '64.

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Brainbell Jangler Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,324 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #16 - Nov 19^th, 2008 at 8:35pm "Kick Out the Jams" by MC5 is often mentioned as the first punk song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E372fuerleM
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Pdog Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 6,123 aTx Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #17 - Nov 19^th, 2008 at 9:00pm As far as delivery, The Stones doing She Said Yeah, is punk as fuck, and 1st...
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Re: Keith as "proto-punk"
Reply #18 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:12am

Pdog wrote on Nov 19^th, 2008 at 9:00pm:

As far as delivery, The Stones doing She Said Yeah, is punk as fuck, and 1st...

pdog you could be right ~ THE STONES WERE THE FIRST PUNK BAND! When all the other bands were clean cut and wore matching outfits, our boys were anti-establishment, the underlying theme of punk. MICK said in a book when their manager bought them matching jackets, they rebelled by 'losing them' right after the show. The Stones were always rebellious, and punk rock's main 'theme' was founded on rebelling against the social 'norm' and society in general and not being afraid to show it. Not necessarily just KEEF, but ALL of the Stones, especially BRIAN, were pre-punk!

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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #19 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 7:01pm Pdog wrote on Nov 19^th, 2008 at 9:00pm: As far as delivery, The Stones doing She Said Yeah, is punk as fuck, and 1st... That's a very, very good point.
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Navin Rocks Off Regular Offline Long Time Jerk Posts: 18 Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #20 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 9:13pm Much quoted by Freud (to explain the origins of whatever): "In the beginning was the Deed" - from Goethe's Faust, part I, scene 3 And now, this seems to be appropriate (for this topic and whatever else) : "In the beginning was The Stones"
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Re: Keith as "proto-punk"
Reply #21 - Nov 21^st, 2008 at 6:26am

Bitch wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:12am:

Pdog wrote on Nov 19^th, 2008 at 9:00pm:

As far as delivery, The Stones doing She Said Yeah, is punk as fuck, and 1st...

pdog you could be right ~ THE STONES WERE THE FIRST PUNK BAND! When all the other bands were clean cut and wore matching outfits, our boys were anti-establishment, the underlying theme of punk. MICK said in a book when their manager bought them matching jackets, they rebelled by 'losing them' right after the show. The Stones were always rebellious, and punk rock's main 'theme' was founded on rebelling against the social 'norm' and society in general and not being afraid to show it. Not necessarily just KEEF, but ALL of the Stones, especially BRIAN, were pre-punk!

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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,753 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: Keith as "proto-punk" Reply #22 - Nov 21^st, 2008 at 8:48am Wouldnt a crazed drunk piano playin gonzo who married his 15 year old cousin be at the top of this list in the 50's?
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