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Oct 26th, 2008 at 7:21am
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From The Sunday Times
October 26, 2008

Peter Green: Back from the brink
He was the greatest guitarist Britain had ever produced. Then, after three years in Fleetwood Mac he disappeared
Paul Sexton

Peter Green has been in the afterlife for 38 years — the afterlife of a period of little more than 36 months in which he became probably Britain’s greatest-ever blues-rock guitarist, before falling so far that, to this day, many people assume him to be dead. Green’s apprenticeship in the great academy of the mid-1960s blues boom, John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers, brought swift graduation: he was a founding member of Fleetwood Mac in 1967. His nimble, authoritative brilliance as a player, and as the writer of undimmed classics such as Oh Well, Man of the World and The Green Manalishi, quickly created a peerless catalogue and helped to integrate blues into the rock generation.

Then, even more quickly than he had emerged, Green was gone. He left the group at the height of their initial success, apparently renouncing worldly wealth and disappearing into the darkness of psychiatric hospitals and menial jobs. As his formerco-founders of the group, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, mined a multiplatinum seam with the Mac’s new transatlantic line-up, Green was working in a graveyard and wrestling with his very sanity. He re-emerged, temporarily, to make new recordings at the end of the 1970s, and again in the mid-1990s at the helm of the Splinter Group, with whom he also toured, often playing rhythm rather than his original lead lines. Since that group disbanded in 2004, he has gone to ground again.

All of that work takes its place on a new four-disc box set that covers Green’s entire career and emphasises again what a sorcerer of the Stratocaster (and of the Gibson Les Paul) he was. In an oft-aired but nonetheless arresting quote, the softly spoken man from Bethnal Green was once described as “the only one who gave me the cold sweats” by, of all superstars, BB King.

Green agreed to give a rare interview to Culture to mark the set’s release. While the Pickwickian figure I found sitting in his kitchen bore almost no resemblance to the lithe young guitar hero, I found the older man, 62 on Wednesday, talkative and, to all appearances, content with his modest latter-day lot. Still given to impenetrable thought processes, Green nevertheless has a charming, down-to-earth sense of humour and speaks rivetingly about his rise, fall and survival, even if his lack of regard for his own work is heartbreaking.

For our entire conversation, he sits at his kitchen table, head down, doodling assiduously on a pad, looking up occasionally to make eye contact but usually just to choose which colour felt-tip pen he wants next. In three hours, he gets up just once, to go over to the cooker to boil water in a saucepan and make us coffee. He looks healthy and serene, with few worry lines on his face; and after some small talk, with a guitarist friend of his joining in, we’re left alone. I start by asking if he has picked up a guitar lately or has any plans to perform.

“We were talking about it last night — what do I think about some appearances? I said, ‘Not yet.’ If we’ve got something good . . . usual channels, I guess they call it.”

Almost immediately, we arrive at one of the reasons why Green was not comfortable with the Splinter Group, and perhaps why he opted out of the supposed high life at the turn of the 1970s, when Fleetwood Mac were regularly being voted best band in the world. He was, and remains, uneasy about the limelight or any perception of himself as being better than his bandmates. “I’m not really supposed to be doing vocals, I can’t concentrate on guitar,” he says. “I’m stuck out front, I don’t really know what I’m doing there. Novelty value, I think.”

Yet isn’t it inevitable that people would demand that he was front and centre of any band he was in? “I don’t want to break their hearts,” he says sweetly, “but my reply to that would be, ‘Why can’t it be equal?’ It’s not really called pressure, just an unbalanced situation where someone won’t blend in.”

We will revisit that point when he confronts the circumstances of his departure from the world stage, but first there’s time to talk about Green’s baby-boomer upbringing in the East End of London. As he recalls it, he grows more animated. “My brother Micky brought a record to the house, of Humphrey Lyttelton’s Bad Penny Blues — on the other side was Basin Street Blues — and it was really fantastic. We had a fight and he chased me round the room,” he laughs, “and I went past the record player and it snapped the record. Then my oldest brother got married, and they had 45s of early Elvis Presley and Bill Haley and Santo & Johnny’s Sleep Walk.” Before I can even seize on his reference to that dreamy 1959 guitar instrumental and its influence on one of his own, he confirms it. “Albatross, I guess it comes from there,” he says.

While the Green family wasn’t really musical, “Dad used to whistle a tune, and Mum could sing vibrato. He said he used to croon to Mum — before he proposed to her, he used to sing to her over the telephone.” It was, I joke, a more romantic age. “Possibly, possibly,” he answers, then, with a glint in his eye: “Speak for yourself.”

Green makes an educated guess that the first guitarist he would have noticed as a kid was Lonnie Donegan, and explains that his first paying role, at about 15, was on bass. He joined Pete B’s Looners, fronted by the future Camel member Pete Bardens, in 1966, and quickly progressed to Mayall’s team of all the talents, in which he replaced Eric Clapton. He refers to Clapton frequently, clearly regarding him as the yardstick by which, in his mind, his work has always fallen short. “My playing’s got more cracks in it, it’s more human. More typical of someone who can’t play guitar at all.” I tell him that he is way too modest. “No, I know my limitations,” he smiles.

The years with Mac were more work than fun, he recalls; and, sadly, he professes to like just one piece of their recorded output. Rather than any of the band’s standard texts, it’s the pleasant but somewhat rambling instrumental Underway, from the 1969 album Then Play On. He dismisses the apparently autobiographical nature of some of his lyrics from that era, especially the achingly sad Man of the World, in which he managed, in the poptastic environment of 1968, to confess that he wished he had never been born. “There’s no truth in that,” he says. “It’s just poetry, just rhyming. Naah, I don’t wish I’d never been born, it just fits in, rhymes with whatever it was — knickers, ragged and torn.”

Suddenly serious again, Green does confess that the mental anguish evident in The Green Manalishi was no device. “I was just a bit frightened that I couldn’t break into my body. I woke up and I felt dead. My head seemed to be working, my mind seemed to be working, but only just. I couldn’t move my arms and legs, I had to fight to get my spirit into my body, and it kind of frightened me, I guess. I went straight off and wrote a fear song. I had a good refusal of hashish — then, eventually, there was LSD, in a Coke can. I refused first time, then, second time, I took a sip, just a tiny little sip, and I began to see things, things started to be more prominent, more definite. Two people dancing seemed to be trying to mean something. It was quite fantastic. It shouldn’t be so fantastic, maybe.”

Was his descent inevitable? “When I think of it, it was just me that was the sucker,” he says. “They kept publishing things in the newspaper, saying I threatened them to take back money they were offering me, but it’s not true. If I hadn’t taken LSD, I would have kept up with the money, been able to play, wouldn’t have stayed with the group, because they didn’t know how to handle the situation.”

He “stayed out of the way” as Mac went through various line-ups, all highly musical but often unsuccessful, before they unlocked the door to vast fortunes in the Rumours era. He begrudged them none of that success, but things reached a markedly contrasting nadir for Green when, in 1977, he was arrested after a confrontation with the band’s former manager, Clifford Davis. “I don’t know why I threatened him. I just suddenly said, ‘I’ll shoot you.’ I thought he’d be glad to hear from me, but all he wanted to do was get me arrested. I got a bit paranoid, and it came out like that.”

Green has taken small steps down a long road since then, often two forward and one back. Looking at him, you can feel that his punishment for relatively contained narcotic misdemeanours has lasted agonisingly long. Or you can simply enjoy his winning smile and give thanks he ever made records.

Before I leave, we listen to a raw demo he has recently made with a current team of simpatico players. There’s no point in pretending that it’s Oh Well, but its shuffling, bluesy style and smoky vocal have plenty of low-key charm. So, you do still want to express yourself with music, I say. “Oh, yeah,” he replies. “I’d like to be able to.”

Peter Green’s four-CD The Anthology is released tomorrow by Salvo

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Reply #1 - Oct 26th, 2008 at 12:59pm
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I thought "Albatross" was inspired by "Sleepwalk" that dreamy instrumental sound, sounds like Peter Green suffers from clinical depression, with all the anti-depressant drugs around today, or whatever psychoactive state he's in, he can't get help??
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Reply #2 - Oct 26th, 2008 at 3:43pm
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Oct 26th, 2008 at 12:59pm:
I thought "Albatross" was inspired by "Sleepwalk" that dreamy instrumental sound, sounds like Peter Green suffers from clinical depression, with all the anti-depressant drugs around today, or whatever psychoactive state he's in, he can't get help??


I'm pretty sure he has dealt with scizophrenia, with LSD sending him over the top like it did with Syd Barrett. All three of the early Mac's guitarists were a mess; Jeremy Spencer quitting to join the Children of God cult and Danny Kirwan getting fired and becoming a destitute alcoholic for a while.
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Reply #3 - Oct 26th, 2008 at 4:32pm
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His is really one of the saddest, strangest story in blusey rock and roll history.....along with Syd, of course. Bands that went on to much greater commercial success after their tortured, but extremely talented and visionary "leaders" had left, finding the world a difficult place with which to cope..... Sad
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Sioux wrote on Oct 26th, 2008 at 4:32pm:
His is really one of the saddest, strangest story in blusey rock and roll history.....along with Syd, of course. Bands that went on to much greater commercial success after their tortured, but extremely talented and visionary "leaders" had left, finding the world a difficult place with which to cope..... Sad


You betcha. At least Green is still with us, after Syd's passing. Of course that leaves the possibility of a reunion of the original Mac lineup, though Danny Kirwan appears the most unwilling. See, with those 3 guitar heroes pasts, it'd be tough for Fleetwood and McVie (cokehead and boozer's before and yet still far from the most messed up Mac members- I guess Bob Welch, Lindsay Buckingham and Christine McVie were ok in the head but that's about it.

Spencer's Children of God allegiances don't help (now called the Family International but before they've had lawsuits for sexual abuse of children levied down with Spencer's name in many of the affidavits! You see, the Family Intl. believes in some quarters that children are fair game sexually and that it is natural. Yeah, way to think about what the children want, ya pedos! What a freaky cult and what a strange man) and Greeny is a wild card too. I recently bought and played Then Play On- not a great record but it has its charm. You do get a glimpse into a moody atmosphere and Green's at the forefront of the melodrama.

The early Mac was best experienced live. They didn't become really accomplished record-makers until Bob Welch and it took Green leaving to focus the band on songwriting instead of re-hashing blues too often. Their commercial endeavours were never too slick for me until Buckingham joined, and though he's a superb guitarist I prefer the songs of Nicks (so damn mysterious and haunting) and McVie overall. But Buckingham had his moments in my eyes, his version of "Big Love" off 1997's reunion album The Dance is a showcase of guitar picking virtuosity so check it out.
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There was a good piece about him in the last issue of MOJO, too, where he said much of the same about LSD being at the cause of his problems--plus there was a picture of him with John Mayall, where he looked almost unrecognizable (unlike Mayall).  What struck me most was the way he kept saying he didn't feel good enough, he'd play more if he could but he keeps making mistakes, etc.--very sad.  Sad  I bet he's still better than many contemporary guitarists.
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Reply #6 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 9:25pm
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Thanks for the thread.  Fleetwood Mac has totally sucked since he left and the bullshit of Stevie ("Sit on My Face") Nicks took over.
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Wild Bill wrote on Oct 27th, 2008 at 9:25pm:
Thanks for the thread.  Fleetwood Mac has totally sucked since he left and the bullshit of Stevie ("Sit on My Face") Nicks took over.


Hey give some love to Danny Kirwan though! No? Any takers?
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