stonedinaustralia wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:43pm:


Anyone that thinks nothing will change with an Obama administration, a Pelosi run House, and a Reid run Senate dosen't know history too well. There will be change alright and it won't be the kind you can believe in. The only good news should Barry win is that the Democrat Party of today will be utterly destroyed in the process. Perhaps the real spirit of the Democrat Party will take the party back from the far left bomb throwers like Soros, Media Matters, The Democratic Undeground, and The Daily Kos. The party has become highjacked and many Dems that I know personally will vote for McCain just as a protest vote. Too bad others can't be bothered with the truth about the current state of affairs with that once great party.


Riffy

Charles Krauthammer

Friday, October 10, 2008

Washington Post. Com

Obama & Friends: Judge Not?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/09/AR2008100902328....

Riffhard wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 11:00pm:


Given your prognosticative track record I'll take this all with a crumb of toast, thanks.


Save the hockey mom and you save the world!

Nasty Habits wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 8:47am:



LOL! You're kidding, right? You honestly think that should the Dims get a super majority in the congress and win presidency that they won't look at that as a mandate and shove all kinds of liberal shit down our throats?!?!

It's not even the taxes, though they will be raised exponentially at every given opportunity. No, they will load the courts with judges like the asshats in Connecticut that just legislated from the bench last week about gay marriage. We are going to relive the Carter era should Barry win. And win he may because some people are too god damned stubborn or stupid to even bother to consider the consequences. If Barry wins every fucking idiot that voted for him is gonna get exactly what they deserve. Again, I go back to his books, which I have read. He IS a socialist/Marxist. He has no problem spelling this fact out in his books but he, and his campaign have managed to keep that off of the public radar. Thanks to the willing accomplices in the press.






Too bad more people can't be bothered to read up on the man they plan on electing, and ruining, this nation.


I can list at least fifty reasons why this man/child should never be allowed to step foot in the White House. Still I have not met one single person that can tell me ONE THING that he has accomplished! Not ONE SINGLE THING!!!! This is the reason that I correctly identify any, and all, Obama supporters as drones. They don't know shit about the man but they continue to march to the mantra of "change" and "hope". I'm actually embarrassed for these morons!

Vote Obama! You will get exactly what you deserve!


Drones! Every single one of them!





Riffy

Does the suffering of the Iraqi people or the Afghani people factor into this shit at all?

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Don't worry, the married queers in Connecticut are rich capitalists and would never dream of moving into your socialism supported trailer trash neighborhood.

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Yeah! Then they could spend all day like you, locked in a rubber room with no sharp objects -barking mad and arguing with a doorknob about Obama's Kevin Bacon connections. Meanwhile, stealthy Mooseologist/Secessionist Tod Palin plots to steal that ten cents you have horded!

Riffhard wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:57am:


Not saying that that couldn't happen - I definitely remember a certain party declaring a mandate back in '04 and running wild for a couple of years - just saying that your crystal ball gets a little cloudy sometimes.

Now if I got this right you are declaring something right around half the voter population of the US idiots.  Other self righteous, self certain and self satisfied blahmentators on the left side of things (for example, that guy Nanker was borned from Hefner's ass) feel exactly the same way about anyone who would vote for a McCain/Palin ticket.  Put it together, and we are, indeed, a nation of idiots.

Look how far we've come!

I have always prefaced the "idiot" remark with the words "those who know the truth about Barry and still vote for him are idiots." I fully stand by that. I don't think that those peple are idiots. I know that those people are idiots. Those people have very little knowledge of Barrack's Sal Alinsky ties, and frankly, they couldn't be bothered to learn about them. They are gonna vote for Barry because he has sold them a package of lies and socialist dogma wrapped and repackaged as compassion. Anyone that is not civically responsible enough to actually try and see through the liberal claptrap and call it what it really is nothing more than a useless idiot. Or, in Barrack's case, a useful idiot. And yes, that accounts for roughly one half the population as it stands right now! The media has made damned sure that they stay uninformed. These people are drones pure and simple.

What Obama is pushing is socialism leaning even further left towards flat out Marxism. I'm not just saying this to be provacative. I'm saying it because that is exactly what Barrack has said countless times in the past. He, of course, has the media to carry his water and they have zero desire to let anyone in on the not-so-secret-secret. He will ruin this teetering economy with taxes that will directly effect small bussinesses by the thousands. Don't believe me. Just listen for yourselves. The plumber that told Barry he was going to have his tax rate go way up with Barry's plan was told by Barrack that his plan is to "spread the wealth around." In other words, wealth redistribution. That is the very definition of socialism and it has never worked anywhere it's been tried. You want socialism? Then go to Venezuela. Is it any wonder that Hugo Chavez loves Obama?! The American Dream will go up in smoke if Obama wins. I guess that's just fine for people that have bought into the bullshit class warfare that Barry is shoveling down everyone's throats. To me it's the scariest prospect that we as a nation have faced in many many years.


Here, this is what Barrack is really about in his own words. If this dosen't send a shiver down your spine than you are too far gone to see it for what it is commrades. Wake the fuck up! This man wants nothing less than the total remaking of the Ameircan way of life!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLlxxWaJZM


Riffy


PS-Pdog the reason that the Dems are responsible for the finacial clusterfuck is because it was they that stopped any and all oversight and reform at Fannie and Freddie. Anyone that knows anything about the crisis knows that those were the lynch pins that created the house of cards to implode. Republicans, including Senator John McCain, tried desperatly to put the brakes on the crisis before it got out of hand. It was Democrats that ran the shell game. They owned the boards at Fannie and Freddie, and they paid off some key members of the House (Frank) and Senate (Dodd) to keep the money rolling in. It doesn't seem to resonate with the drones that Barrack Obama was the second highest beneficiary of kickbacks from Fannie Mae. The drones seemingly are blind to the fact that the man that walked away from Fannie with 90,000,000.00 was a key member of Barry's campaign team. The drones just blindly, and stupidly, chant "Hope, change, hope, change,......" They are idiots! How do I know that they are idiots? Because these moronic drones somehow seem to think that Bush, and by extension, John McCain are responsible for it! Facts be damned! Time to hand the keys to the henhouse right back to the foxes that raided it in the first place! Yes. They are idiots. Every single one of them!

PartyDoll MEG wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 8:21pm:



Meg you may not believe this but with me this not so much a personal attack against you, or any other Obama supporter. It's more than that to me. I am genuinely afraid of the direction that this man plans on leading the country. If I appear to be taking personal swipes than I beg your pardon. I see in living color btw, and with Barrack Obama I see mostly red.

You can claim that those "sound bytes" are poor proof, and that, right there, is a perfect example of what I'm saying. Nothing in those bytes is taken out of context. Nor are his own words coming from his own mouth when he pitched wealth redistribution to a plumber that is mostly likely going to be forced to lay off an employee or two should Obama win. Nothing that an avid Obama supporter hears matters. If anyone dare criticise the far left political philosophy that Barrack believes in, has written about, and espouses in those "sound bytes" then it is dismissed out of hand as a personal attack or "sound bytes" taken out of context.

You dismissivley accuse me of not seeing the whole picture with your "..... with people who can see in color, and not just in black and white." line. I'd argue the opposite is true. I have read both of his books. I have studied the Sal Alinsky (an avowed communist activist) group that he was involved with while he was in college and after he graduated. I have studied his history with William Ayers (another far left activist and domestic terrorist). I have accepted the fact that he knowingly attended a church led by a racist antisemitic preacher who preaches the doctrine of Black Liberation Theology (shockingly another far left socialist association!) for over twenty years. I have read his Global Poverty Initiative. It is nothing more than a massive global redistribution of wealth that we are going to have to fork over to The State. Socialism on a global scale!

These are all instructive as to how Barrack Obama sees himself. He's sees himself as the all knowing all seeing Messiah that is going to cure the world's ills whether we like it or not. He WILL impose a massive State run operation that will determine who needs what and how those that are well off are going to pay for it all. All for the common good, of course! He will lead this nation into a place that is has never been before, and one where the US Constitution is ignored. All for the common good, of course!


No, I see in 3-D Panavison color. It's not I that am closing my eyes to the truths about Barrack Obama. His entire carreer is an open book, and he has ONLY pushed for a decidely socialist agenda. It is you that are flippantly shrugging off this man's radical associations, his carreer advancement at-all-costs mentality. His filthy hands with regards to Fannie Mae, and his massive kickbacks that he got from the very men that have created the worst finacial disaster that this country has experienced since 1929.


Obama may be half black and half white, but he's all red when it comes to his political leanings. I can see all those colors. Can you?


Riffy

Nasty Habits wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:22pm:



That about explains it!

Look while I tend to get a touch "over the top" in my condemnation of Obama and his supporters, it's only because I love what the Founding Fathers have given us, and what countless Americans have sacraficed their lives to preserve. If that sounds a bit elitest than so be it! Sound corny? I could give a fuck. I am not exaggerating when I say that what Obama represents, and is trying to install as policy is nowhere near what the country was founded on! Show me where in the US Constitution it says that it's the federal government's job to "spread the wealth around". It's not there! Yet that is exactly what Barrack Obama has been planning for a long long time now. One only need read either of his books (Dreams of My Father in particular), or listen to the man speak (yes, even in thos "sound bytes") to know these truths. Yet this is all ignored in the idiotic quest for "hope" and "change". Just ignore all the socialist/Marxist trappings that all this so called "hope" and "change" is wrapped in. His change is most certainly not in line with personal liberty and freedom, and it damned sure isn't what the US Constitution was based upon. We fought a war for independance for the levying of unfair taxation. Obama has plans on taxing us to the tune of 850 billion to solve the global poverty crisis for God's sake! The USA is the most charitable nation on the face of the planet. That is an absolute fact! Yet Barrack wants to garnish our wages through massive new taxes to force us into giving more!


It is not hyperbolic rhetoric about Obama's associations either. They are real and they are troubling to say the least! But when they are questioned then those who raise these questions are called everything from racists to partisan hacks. We can't ask about William Ayers.  We can't ask about Jeremiah Wright. We can't ask about ACORN. We can't ask about The Chicago Annenberg Challenge. We can't ask about Tony Rezko. We can't ask about his ties to Farrahkan. Hell, we can't even ask about the kickbacks that he most certainly recieved from Fannie Mae! To even raise these issues is to be accussed of the politics of "the personal attack".


No the elites are the ones that shout down any and all dissent from voices other that The One's! To make it worse the media is turning into Pravda in order to accomodate this massive swing to the left.

You can't point to an instance where McCain supporters have shut down radio stations' switchboards in order to scilence an opposing view. Obama's campaign sent out the word from on high to do just that on several occasions in just the last month alone. Funny how the media did not report these "brown shirt" tactics. Ask Stanley Kurtz how he has been threatened and harrassed for having unmittigated gall to go to Chicago and investigate the Obama/Ayers relationship.


Elitest? Not me. Far from it in fact. I just hate every single thing that Obama represents because I have taken the time to study him, and his beliefs. They are not my beliefs, and quite frankly, they are not the beliefs of many of the drones that are lining up to support him. They, of course, don't know what these beliefs are threatening to do to the future of this nation. They only know that "hope" and "change" sound great after 8 years of Bush. That's a pretty fucking thin reason to vote for the most liberal candidate to ever run for the office of president. In any other year in our nation's history Obama would have been shown the door long before the Democratic Convention. This year the inmates have taken over the asylum, and they have willing accomplices in the press.


"So then doctor what are we then a republic or a monarchy?",  "A republic if you can keep it"-Ben Franklin 1787


Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 6:57pm:


That is one piece of a giant puzzle. Corproations are getting help, and the middle class (who pay their bills) are getting fucked. The current state is such, no matter who is the next president, taxes will be raised. That is a simple mathmetical fact. There's not enough to cut, to cover the huge debt and deficits. You can argue all you want, that you don't raise taxes during a bad econonmy, yet you cheered as we cut taxes during two wars! That is what you never do too!!! And when you bailout Wall Street, which is about greed, they take the money and party. We aren't talking about people who are hardworking and just pay your bills. We're talkinh about greedy, give myself a bonus even though business is bad type folks. We went from accepting mediocrity to rewarding incompetince. You keep blaming Dems, and talking about The Sub Prime and Faniie and Freddie, that will get you nowhere. Where's the jobs? What about our trade deifcit? Funding wars and tax cuts for the rich? 6 yrs of a Republican led Congress and President? Did you forget, the economy got drunk, Wall Street got drunk. Like that is some kind of excuse? Oops!!! Those dumbed down sound bites are bullshit. I said that the corporate tax breaks wouldn't help during a war. I was told it would create jobs, yet the jobs aren't there and the war still is, at a huge cost! Despite millions who expect entitlements and refuse to work for them, there's millions who need real help.  I say so what if it is a form of socialsm, when did helping people become bad? Now that we've gone from govt. bailout to govt. buyouts, anyone who is blasting social help as Marxist is only saying help the rich, fuck the poor. We've seen the biggest redistribution of wealth ever, only it went to the rich and wealthiest. It might not be fair to give the never had money for nothing, yet, the system is also rewarding alot of haves and always hads, with unfair advantages on the backs of the middle class. I'm not an idiot! And it doesn't bother me, that you call me one, in every post! I said tax cuts during a war, were and are unamerican and unPatriotic, and those who supported them, would hurt our country and our economy and weaken us miltarily, by putting us on the verge of economic collapse. Where's those jobs the tax cuts would create? In the army?

Nellcote wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 8:01am:


I agree, vote early,vote often. But dammit VOTE