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I have now seen both and I'd like to know how Rocks Off feels about the difference. Which one you feel now puts on a better show. The difference in the amount of songs played and the overall quality of the performance. Which is more of an event.
I'm not tryin to start  a fight here, just wanted to know some of your opinions. I'm torn, I was thrilled to get a chance to see The Stones, I believe to be  the Greatest Rock N Roll Band Ever.  Kiss my undercover ass BUT having just seen the Boss,  as he played like 30 songs and 3 hours, played the audience, with no front act, Interacted with his fans, I got say He Rocked the house. Blank Frigging Stare
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Reply #1 - Aug 25th, 2008 at 7:58pm
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Bruce easy, within the last 13 years.
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Lets see if Bruce plays for 3 hours when he's 65.

Hard to believe that a Rolling Stones message board has a Bruce Springsteen topic post w/ the most views and most replies.
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Lets see if Bruce plays for 3 hours when he's 65.

Hard to believe that a Rolling Stones message board has a Bruce Springsteen topic post w/ the most views and most replies.


Bruce is 60 now, and his shows have been better since I could remember.
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Reply #4 - Aug 25th, 2008 at 8:38pm
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As much as I love The Stones, and they're my favorite band, you just can't deny that Bruce and E Street Band is a better live act.. His '78 and '80/'81 tours are legendary, and he knows like noone else how to work the crowd

Plus let's face it... Mick Jagger, nowadays doesn't even look down at the crowd. Bruce on the other hand is a simple person and interacts with the crowd

This clip exemplyfies this very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7oIThTv7Qk

"Lets see if Bruce plays for 3 hours when he's 65. 

Hard to believe that a Rolling Stones message board has a Bruce Springsteen topic post w/ the most views and most replies."

Bruce is/was doing a tour has been blowin' people away night after night for the past year.. The Stones realeased a movie and that was it.... Kinda explains why there's been little Stones discussion
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Reply #5 - Aug 25th, 2008 at 8:56pm
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Bruce is great, but his shows, I've been to two, aren't the same as Stones shows. I even passed on seeing him in Oakland, I wouldn't pass on a Stones show, no matter how much I bitch about them.
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Stunning fucking thread. ABSOLUTELY THE STONES ARE BETTER, DAY IN DAY OUT. LET"S NOT EVEN PRETEND THIS IS LEGIT QUESTION. I MEAN, WHAT THE FUC!
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VERY LEGIT QUESTION.  OK.  WTF?  I HAVE SEEN THEN BOTH SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST 25 YEARS.   ALTHOUGH THE STONES ARE MY FAVORITE OF ALL TIMES, BRUCE DOES PUT ON A BETTER SHOW.  Ok, I done with the caps.
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Let's not make this one of the worst threads in the History of RO.

It's the Stones for me....anytime, anyday, any age, any weather condition, any venue.....

Bruce and the ESB have been phenomenal. Those that love them should be so proud. I was lucky enough to catch a show and thought it was great!! An excellent dose of much needed  raw Rock n Roll. outstanding setlists and show times. Oh how I wish I could see the "boys" do a 3 hour show and take requests via sign from the crowd. But that ain't happenin'.

Apples and Oranges.

But NO BAND will EVER provide me the 'Tingle" of the Rolling Stones. That's just me. Longtime regular of a great Rolling Stones Board, Rocks Off!!!!

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LadyJane wrote on Aug 25th, 2008 at 9:13pm:
Let's not make this one of the worst threads in the History of RO.

It's the Stones for me....anytime, anyday, any age, any weather condition, any venue.....

Bruce and the ESB have been phenomenal. Those that love them should be so proud. I was lucky enough to catch a show and thought it was great!! An excellent dose of much needed  raw Rock n Roll. outstanding setlists and show times. Oh how I wish I could see the "boys" do a 3 hour show and take requests via sign from the crowd. But that ain't happenin'.

Apples and Oranges.

But NO BAND will EVER provide me the 'Tingle" of the Rolling Stones. That's just me. Longtime regular of a great Rolling Stones Board, Rocks Off!!!!

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I'm sorry....I can be an ass sometimes,ok a lot of times.
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LadyJane wrote on Aug 25th, 2008 at 9:13pm:
Let's not make this one of the worst threads in the History of RO.

It's the Stones for me....anytime, anyday, any age, any weather condition, any venue.....

Bruce and the ESB have been phenomenal. Those that love them should be so proud. I was lucky enough to catch a show and thought it was great!! An excellent dose of much needed  raw Rock n Roll. outstanding setlists and show times. Oh how I wish I could see the "boys" do a 3 hour show and take requests via sign from the crowd. But that ain't happenin'.

Apples and Oranges.

But NO BAND will EVER provide me the 'Tingle" of the Rolling Stones. That's just me. Longtime regular of a great Rolling Stones Board, Rocks Off!!!!

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Those moronic speeches "the Boss" gives don't add to his luster. And I've had Mick & Keith pose for me & my crappy disposable cameras. The last time was in Atlantic City. The crowd to see Brucie was actually older than any Stones crowd I've seen. Yes, it was a good show but no, it wasn't better than the Stones. Ri-goddam-DICKulous.
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End of Story.  Its all political.  By the way....i'm going on out on a limb here, not much of one, but the R S (if able to vote in the US) would vote for BO.
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[quote author=LadyJane link=1219711731/0#8 date=1219716833]Let's not make this one of the worst threads in the History of RO.

It's the Stones for me....anytime, anyday, any age, any weather condition, any venue.....

Bruce and the ESB have been phenomenal. Those that love them should be so proud. I was lucky enough to catch a show and thought it was great!! An excellent dose of much needed  raw Rock n Roll. outstanding setlists and show times. Oh how I wish I could see the "boys" do a 3 hour show and take requests via sign from the crowd. But that ain't happenin'.

Apples and Oranges.

But NO BAND will EVER provide me the 'Tingle" of the Rolling Stones. That's just me. Longtime regular of a great Rolling Stones Board, Rocks Off!!!!

LJ.

Those moronic speeches "the Boss" gives don't add to his luster.

What moronic speeches? 2 days before the DNC,on the day when Obama announced his running mate and on a nite when Living in the Future was back in the setlist. He didn't say 1 word about politics. Not even the usual 30 second speil he used to do before Living In The Future.
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Eduardo BM Paiva wrote on Aug 25th, 2008 at 8:38pm:
As much as I love The Stones, and they're my favorite band, you just can't deny that Bruce and E Street Band is a better live act.. His '78 and '80/'81 tours are legendary, and he knows like noone else how to work the crowd

Plus let's face it... Mick Jagger, nowadays doesn't even look down at the crowd. Bruce on the other hand is a simple person and interacts with the crowd

This clip exemplyfies this very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7oIThTv7Qk

"Lets see if Bruce plays for 3 hours when he's 65. 

Hard to believe that a Rolling Stones message board has a Bruce Springsteen topic post w/ the most views and most replies."

Bruce is/was doing a tour has been blowin' people away night after night for the past year.. The Stones realeased a movie and that was it.... Kinda explains why there's been little Stones discussion


that's a nice clip...but y'all should see feej work the crowd. it is goddamned something to be reckoned with.

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End of Story.  Its all political.  By the way....i'm going on out on a limb here, not much of one, but the R S (if able to vote in the US) would vote for BO.


a very high percentage of artists would vote for him... no question, no doubt.
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Who stole this one? (Seriously)

Wasn´t it keith,who said that good rock n roll act.lasts only 20minutes!Let alone 3 hours?
Does bruce still keep his preaching?He should stop that...not very rock n roll.
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I have never seen the Stones live since I got in to them WAY TO LATE... Let's just hope we get at least one more tour, as I say to my friends when I've seen the Stones my life will be complete...
Anyway I'v seen Bruce three time, two of them in Gothenburg, Ullevi, this summer and it was the best 6 hours of my life  Wink I just have to wait and see if the Stones can top that.... I think that I'm gonna have some problems to choose beacuse in my mind they sort of  do different things... I rather see Bruce on a Stadium because it's very powerful at the same time as he's very close to the audience.... and if I got to choose were to see the Stones I would say in a theater because that's when it's just down to the music (Even though I would like to see the stones on all the different venues)....

Since we are talking Bruce and the way he ineracts with the audience.. I have to share my proudest moment from this summer  Wink

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Easy, the Stones!    Also, Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Iggy, the Strokes, KOL, and Babyshambles.   And, Willie Nelson!!!


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As opposed to the Stones playing for less than two?

Some of his band are already around that age. Clarence Clemons is older than all of the Stones except Charlie.

Bruce has always played longer shows than the Stones have done at his age. Often around 50% longer. So your answer makes no sense.  He's the same age now that Jagger was on the Licks tour and is performing for over an hour longer.

Its an apples and oranges question anyway, but as someone who likes both acts equally (which gives me a different perspective than someone who only really likes one of them), the gulf unfortunately has never been greater although both put on excellent shows.

Personally, I'm grateful they're both still around and providing great entertainment.

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Well its only one thread. Feel free to avoid it if it hurts or leave if you dont like it. Then again, I suppose - considering its a music related board - we could always use another tiresome thread on US politics.

The last Stones show was a year ago. Since then their activity has consisted of attending about three film premieres. Bruce has released an album and played something like 105 shows - hence the prolonged interest on the one thread relating to him thats on this board. If he hardly sold any records and few people went to see him would it bother you anywhere near as much? I dont see any complaints when there are threads on Dylan or anyone else.

The way round it might be to post a Stones related thread.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds it ironic that there are people who think that the occasional 30-second 'speech' (usually done in a self deprecating manner) in a 3 hour concert is out of place  yet they have no qualms about having endless heated debates on the same subject on a music forum.

That plus the fact that there are two songs on the last Rolling Stones album which are far more politically barbed and bitterly anti-Republican than any song or speech Springsteen has ever uttered.

Rock 'n' roll moved way beyond merely writing about relationships over 40 years ago. If music fans want artists to avoid writing about what's happening in the world around them, maybe we should all just be listening to Barry Manilow.
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Apples and oranges indeed. It's a matter of taste. I'm a fan of both Bruce and the Stones. If both bands were playing the same night and I could only go to one show? The Stones, no doubt about it. But that's just me.




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I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds it ironic that there are people who think that the occasional 30-second 'speech' (usually done in a self deprecating manner) in a 3 hour concert is out of place  yet they have no qualms about having endless heated debates on the same subject on a music forum.

That plus the fact that there are two songs on the last Rolling Stones album which are far more politically barbed and bitterly anti-Republican than any song or speech Springsteen has ever uttered.

Rock 'n' roll moved way beyond merely writing about relationships over 40 years ago. If music fans want artists to avoid writing about what's happening in the world around them, maybe we should all just be listening to Barry Manilow.


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I find Springsteen boring but I'm very much in the minority. I say the more good bands touring the better for everyone This thing about Stones having to be #1 in all things..well I kinda gave that up in high school.Music moods can change and the more variety thebetter.I saw Johnny Winter in Toronto in 1976 for instance and for that one night he was the Greatest Roc in Roll band in the World.So were the Dead and the Who few times for me anyway. Enjoy the Boss..U2..Zep...Who...Vedder..Winehouse...Lucinda etc..its all good!
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GK, I caught John Dawson Winter III in '76, with Foghat opening.
Indeed was, still is one of the best shows I've seen.
Nothing could beat The Albino's whipsaw openah of Bony Maronie....
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GK, I caught John Dawson Winter III in '76, with Foghat opening.
Indeed was, still is one of the best shows I've seen.
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Yes Nelli it  was a dandy although Toronto got Brownsville Station as openers and I stayed in the boys room smokin pot for that snoozefest.JWintz as we called him then could really smoke an arena and Floyd Radford (?) his rhythm player was great too along with the bass player in the huge coonskin hat!...lol....ahhh the good old days
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My thoughts pretty much echo Gazza's.

I don't know why we continuously have to rate one band or concert better than another.  Personally I love both of these bands.  If you are going by "value for the dollar" for a concert-well then of course Bruce wins hands down. 

I go to many concerts and love many kinds of rock and roll (music in general).  You just can't compare Bruce and the Stones. Two totally different concert experiences.

And Kilroy...yes Bruce moves me as no other artist has ever done, even Mick.  His music combined with his concert experience touches a part of me that no other musician seems to be able to reach.

It is really very simple math here...
Bruce is touring and the Stones are not
I like to share the Bruce experience with my Stones friends who feel the same as me.

If both these bands were touring at the same time...
I would soon have to declare bankruptcy Wink

One thing is very clear in my mind, however, when and if that time comes to see the Stones.  I will NEVER pay mega dollars to see them again!!
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Good! More seats for those that will pay! I saw Brucie once & it was fine but it didn't "get" me like the Stones do. That "tingle" that LJ talks about.

SCL, at my concert at Nassau Co. back in March or April, I endured at least one moderately long speech & then a shorter one about our "loss of civil liberties"'or some such nonsense. All it did was encourage some guys above my seats to start a "USA!! USA!!" chant. Real productive yet oddly, not very rock & roll.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds it ironic that there are people who think that the occasional 30-second 'speech' (usually done in a self deprecating manner) in a 3 hour concert is out of place  yet they have no qualms about having endless heated debates on the same subject on a music forum.

That plus the fact that there are two songs on the last Rolling Stones album which are far more politically barbed and bitterly anti-Republican than any song or speech Springsteen has ever uttered.

Rock 'n' roll moved way beyond merely writing about relationships over 40 years ago. If music fans want artists to avoid writing about what's happening in the world around them, maybe we should all just be listening to Barry Manilow.

I'm glad rock lyrics have moved beyond the boy/girl stuff. And Dangerous Beauty is one of my fave songs from ABB. I wish the Stones had played it. And if they'd gone into boring pol speech, I'd roundly criticize them too. BUT the post below yours is spot on.
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I respect Bruce, but don't like Bruce.

But how DARE you compare him w/ the Stones.
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Reply #31 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 10:00pm
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As I have been a longtime fan of BRUCE and the STONES, it's a fair question as to who puts on a better show.

My Scoreboard:
Number of songs played: Bruce
Variety of songs played: Bruce
Length of show: Bruce
Intensity of show: tie
Professional Quality of show: Stones
Excitement level: Stones
Enthusiasm level: tie
Sexiness of band members: Stones
Satisfaction from band: Stones
Sexiness: Stones
Coolness: Stones
Greatness: Stones
Timelessness: Stones
Wonderfulness: Stones
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Reply #32 - Aug 27th, 2008 at 12:00am
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I've seen Springsteen once in 2000, and it was a good show.  But I find the Springsteen plays 3 hours thing so overblown.  He played 23 songs.  There were roughly 5 encores numbers, with a long stage exit and return between each.  There were 20 minutes of introductions.  I did not find the actual musical performance or energy to be any different from a No Security/Babylon show that would of been from that timeframe.
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Re: Bruce Springsteen Concert vs Stones Concert
Reply #33 - Aug 27th, 2008 at 6:28am
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mmdog wrote on Aug 27th, 2008 at 12:00am:
I've seen Springsteen once in 2000, and it was a good show.  But I find the Springsteen plays 3 hours thing so overblown.  He played 23 songs.  There were roughly 5 encores numbers, with a long stage exit and return between each.  There were 20 minutes of introductions.  


You're suggesting he did 5 separate encores? If so, no offence, but that's simply not true. His encores consist of a 'block' of songs. You might get two separate encores, but no more.

The intros on that tour took place during a ridiculously overlong version of Tenth Avenue Freeze Out which went on for about 20 minutes - its not as if the intros themselves went on for that long (although it did go on a bit, admittedly). Thankfully now they take about a minute and the longest song in the set (when he plays Jungleland) will clock in at about ten minutes maximum.

I cant grasp why anyone can complain about a performer playing for longer than the average show and giving value for money...unless you simply dont care much for the artist to begin with and dont really want to be there in the first place. What next - will we be complaining next year that the Stones are cheapening their legend by not charging us enough for a ticket?
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Re: Bruce Springsteen Concert vs Stones Concert
Reply #34 - Aug 27th, 2008 at 6:35am
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I respect Bruce, but don't like Bruce.

But how DARE you compare him w/ the Stones.



Laughable Taliban-esque bollocks. If this was the Stones of 1972-73 when they were at their zenith creative and performance wise, you may have a point, but unfortunately it isnt. Its a nostalgia show now and nothing more - albeit (in most cases) a very good one with a collection of songs that few (if any) artists can match.

And to get back to your earlier post about playing three hour shows in your 60's, I saw the 62 year old Neil Young - a man who almost died from a brain aneurysm just two or three years ago -play back to back nights in March of this year, performing for two and three quarter hours each night - and in the form of his life, playing with an intensity that would have put any perfomer half his age to shame. I'd also rate those shows better than all but possibly two of the 13 Stones concerts I saw on their last tour (namely the first two shows at the 02)
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Re: Bruce Springsteen Concert vs Stones Concert
Reply #35 - Aug 28th, 2008 at 9:36am
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Gazza wrote on Aug 27th, 2008 at 6:28am:
mmdog wrote on Aug 27th, 2008 at 12:00am:
I've seen Springsteen once in 2000, and it was a good show.  But I find the Springsteen plays 3 hours thing so overblown.  He played 23 songs.  There were roughly 5 encores numbers, with a long stage exit and return between each.  There were 20 minutes of introductions.  


You're suggesting he did 5 separate encores? If so, no offence, but that's simply not true. His encores consist of a 'block' of songs. You might get two separate encores, but no more.

The intros on that tour took place during a ridiculously overlong version of Tenth Avenue Freeze Out which went on for about 20 minutes - its not as if the intros themselves went on for that long (although it did go on a bit, admittedly). Thankfully now they take about a minute and the longest song in the set (when he plays Jungleland) will clock in at about ten minutes maximum.

I cant grasp why anyone can complain about a performer playing for longer than the average show and giving value for money...unless you simply dont care much for the artist to begin with and dont really want to be there in the first place. What next - will we be complaining next year that the Stones are cheapening their legend by not charging us enough for a ticket?





Gazza,

I wasn't complaining about it, and maybe my memory fails about the encores.  However even at 2 stage exits, there was still a lot of padding.  That night, Bruce was talking about this being a revival, like a church.  Before one of the encore numbers, Clemons, Springsteen and Miami Steve stood with arms folded for minutes until the crowd was more whipped up.  I just felt 23 songs could have been paced better.
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Reply #36 - Aug 28th, 2008 at 8:07pm
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let me put it this way.  bruce came to my neck of the woods probably 4-7 time this tour and i didn't go.  i knew the tickets would have cost a bundle and i have already seen him about 15 times back in the '80's so i have seen him enough already.  
don't get me wrong people, this last tour bruce sounded great and he played great gongs...i love bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce but i won't pay to see him anymore.  i watch pdm videos here for free.  i did enjoy him back in the eighties....those 4 hour concerts were the best.
if and when the stones come to giants again for 2 shows.....I'm there


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Reply #37 - Aug 28th, 2008 at 8:14pm
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U2 vs Springsteen = I don't give a shit.

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Reply #38 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 10:17am
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let me put it this way.  bruce came to my neck of the woods probably 4-7 time this tour and i didn't go.  i knew the tickets would have cost a bundle and i have already seen him about 15 times back in the '80's so i have seen him enough already. 
don't get me wrong people, this last tour bruce sounded great and he played great gongs...i love bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce but i won't pay to see him anymore.  i watch pdm videos here for free.  i did enjoy him back in the eighties....those 4 hour concerts were the best.
if and when the stones come to giants again for 2 shows.....I'm there


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get down jimmy

Are you fucking serious?

I skipped the last Stones Giants show. I had committed to something else that night & the travel is over 2 hours for me. I'm hoping they do Nassau Colosseum...
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Re: Bruce Springsteen Concert vs Stones Concert
Reply #39 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 1:20pm
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let me put it this way.  bruce came to my neck of the woods probably 4-7 time this tour and i didn't go.  i knew the tickets would have cost a bundle and i have already seen him about 15 times back in the '80's so i have seen him enough already.  
don't get me wrong people, this last tour bruce sounded great and he played great gongs...i love bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce but i won't pay to see him anymore.  i watch pdm videos here for free.  i did enjoy him back in the eighties....those 4 hour concerts were the best.
if and when the stones come to giants again for 2 shows.....I'm there


everybody say ow

get down jimmy

Are you fucking serious?


The Stones couldn't fill Giants stadium once. Let alone twice. Not anymore.
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Reply #40 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 2:10pm
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My beef with Bruce started with Dave Marsh comparing their respective shows on the 1978 tour.  Marsh said the Stones’ show was miserable compared to Springsteen’s.  I was 18 and just got back from seeing the Rolling Stones rock 80,000 people away at the Superdome in New Orleans.  To me the Rolling Stones were rock and roll deity – Springsteen, just another in a long line of the next Dylan.  Of course, Bruce has passed the test of time and I was far too hard on him all those 30 years ago.  However – and I’m showing my American bias – he still reminds me of someone down at Jiffy Lube doing an oil change, while Mick, Keith, Charlie, and even Ronnie are exotic creatures from the Mount Olympus of rock and roll.  Mick is ultimate rock icon.  Keith is what every guitar player in the 1970s wanted to look like.  The song catalogue of the Stones is beyond classic.  It is an unfair comparison.  Blue Jeans vs. an Armani suit – and I love jeans, but come on – they are still the Stones!  God, I still love the Rolling Stones.  
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Reply #41 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 2:19pm
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"The Stones couldn't fill Giants stadium once. Let alone twice. Not anymore."

Bon Jovi could likely fill it 10 times.
Your point???

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Reply #42 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 3:48pm
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Keefj200 wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 2:10pm:
My beef with Bruce started with Dave Marsh comparing their respective shows on the 1978 tour.  Marsh said the Stones’ show was miserable compared to Springsteen’s.  I was 18 and just got back from seeing the Rolling Stones rock 80,000 people away at the Superdome in New Orleans.  To me the Rolling Stones were rock and roll deity – Springsteen, just another in a long line of the next Dylan.  Of course, Bruce has passed the test of time and I was far too hard on him all those 30 years ago.  However – and I’m showing my American bias – he still reminds me of someone down at Jiffy Lube doing an oil change, while Mick, Keith, Charlie, and even Ronnie are exotic creatures from the Mount Olympus of rock and roll.  Mick is ultimate rock icon.  Keith is what every guitar player in the 1970s wanted to look like.  The song catalogue of the Stones is beyond classic.  It is an unfair comparison.  Blue Jeans vs. an Armani suit – and I love jeans, but come on – they are still the Stones!  God, I still love the Rolling Stones.  


it seems you are still stuck on the song, i'm on fire  or was it the flirty sexy rich bitch that got to you?

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Reply #43 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 10:16am
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let me put it this way.  bruce came to my neck of the woods probably 4-7 time this tour and i didn't go.  i knew the tickets would have cost a bundle and i have already seen him about 15 times back in the '80's so i have seen him enough already.  
don't get me wrong people, this last tour bruce sounded great and he played great gongs...i love bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce but i won't pay to see him anymore.  i watch pdm videos here for free.  i did enjoy him back in the eighties....those 4 hour concerts were the best.
if and when the stones come to giants again for 2 shows.....I'm there


everybody say ow

get down jimmy

Are you fucking serious?


The Stones couldn't fill Giants stadium once. Let alone twice. Not anymore.



They could fill it for a week or two if their tickets were the same price.

FOP's statement that Springsteens ticket prices "cost a bundle" is an absurd observation from anyone who goes to Stones concerts.  Bruce's tickets had an upper limit of $99. The Stones' were $450, with an average nationwide of $167 and significantly higher in major cities like New York. LJ mentioned Bon Jovi - I think their prices are even cheaper than Springsteen's.

It speaks volumes that when the Stones do return visits at US cities now they tend to do so several months apart instead of back to back. Expecting many fans to shell out that kind of money to attend two or three shows in one week is a tall order.

Its that reason more than any other which has determined  that the number of Stones shows I intend to see on the next tour they do could be counted on one hand with probably a finger or two to spare. On each of the last two tours, I've seen 13 shows.

If the Stones charged the prices that Bruce does they could still fill any venue on earth for multiple nights.
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Reply #44 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 11:06am
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I have to agree with ya Gazza.
With the US economy that way it is now, NO WAY can I afford to shell out 500.00 a ticket, unless I'm in the front row!!!!!!!! At that would be it. One show.

Oh and as for this:

"LJ mentioned Bon Jovi - I think their prices are even cheaper than Springsteen's."
Those poseurs WOULD HAVE TO PAY ME to endure a performance.
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Well, the US economy picked up last quarter by a surprising margin but if any of these acts keeps charging what the Stones charge, their sales will flatten or decline. I can justify going to one show for $300 if I've got awesome seats but even at that price sometimes, I've been 25 rows back on the floor which puts me far from either stage.
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Reply #46 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 11:37am
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The days of any rock group filling stadiums night after night are gone.  The greedy industry has made it impossible for fans to do this.  And it looks like the Stones better pay attention to their remaining fans, if they intend on performing again and making any money! Wink

And come now, lets be honest here.  How many of your friends outside this "circle of lunatics" even attend a concert?  Christ, I am having trouble even with begging my friends to go with me to a little venue to see a band or group that they like for $25!!!
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Reply #47 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 12:22pm
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LadyJane wrote on Aug 30th, 2008 at 11:06am:
I have to agree with ya Gazza.
With the US economy that way it is now, NO WAY can I afford to shell out 500.00 a ticket, unless I'm in the front row!!!!!!!! At that would be it. One show.

Oh and as for this:

"LJ mentioned Bon Jovi - I think their prices are even cheaper than Springsteen's."
Those poseurs WOULD HAVE TO PAY ME to endure a performance.
Shiver.......

LJ.


Well..my contempt for them is hardly a secret, but the point is that it seems that they choose to peg their ticket prices to a reasonable level (which is below their market value) to the extent where it enables them to sell out multiple nights at many arenas and stadiums.  I think that's very commendable.

The upshot of that - if you're a big fan of any particular artist - is that you can afford to go to more shows.

The Stones' prices are tailored to the sort of fan who is going to choose to go - either by economic necessity if theyre a big fan or by choice if they're a casual, but affluent fan - to one show per tour.

Whilst its good for the band's cashflow it makes for a very stale type of audience...and in all honesty it's becoming more noticeable with every tour.

Maybe thats what they're happy with. The sort of audience they seem to want to attract is easier to pander to with the musically unchallenging greatest hits nonsense.

If I was a performing artist who has more money than he'll ever need, I'd personally get more of a kick of playing to enthusiastic audiences who can appreciate more than about ten songs in a 45 year back catalogue, but it appears that people like you & I are at the bottom of the priority ladder these days.
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I too shall go to fewer shows next year. This time i mean it!
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" I  too shall go to fewer shows next year. This time i mean it "


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Reply #50 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:00pm
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I too shall go to fewer shows next year. This time i mean it!



I say that every tour and it always ends up that I go to more instead.

Unfortunately, next time it's an absolute economic necessity.

maybe - in a perverse way - its just as well the Stones have become so expensive.  It makes it an easier choice.
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2008 at 10:16am:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 29th, 2008 at 1:20pm:
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let me put it this way.  bruce came to my neck of the woods probably 4-7 time this tour and i didn't go.  i knew the tickets would have cost a bundle and i have already seen him about 15 times back in the '80's so i have seen him enough already.  
don't get me wrong people, this last tour bruce sounded great and he played great gongs...i love bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce but i won't pay to see him anymore.  i watch pdm videos here for free.  i did enjoy him back in the eighties....those 4 hour concerts were the best.
if and when the stones come to giants again for 2 shows.....I'm there


everybody say ow

get down jimmy

Are you fucking serious?


The Stones couldn't fill Giants stadium once. Let alone twice. Not anymore.



They could fill it for a week or two if their tickets were the same price.

FOP's statement that Springsteens ticket prices "cost a bundle" is an absurd observation from anyone who goes to Stones concerts.  Bruce's tickets had an upper limit of $99. The Stones' were $450, with an average nationwide of $167 and significantly higher in major cities like New York. LJ mentioned Bon Jovi - I think their prices are even cheaper than Springsteen's.

It speaks volumes that when the Stones do return visits at US cities now they tend to do so several months apart instead of back to back. Expecting many fans to shell out that kind of money to attend two or three shows in one week is a tall order.

Its that reason more than any other which has determined  that the number of Stones shows I intend to see on the next tour they do could be counted on one hand with probably a finger or two to spare. On each of the last two tours, I've seen 13 shows.

If the Stones charged the prices that Bruce does they could still fill any venue on earth for multiple nights.


your math is fuzzy g.  i got 2 1st row upper deck [3rd stage] seats looking straight at the stage at giants for 107 a piece.  you call that a piss in the bucket these days?  i sold them to my friend and his gal only because lisa scored 2 1st row b stage tickets for 160 a piece.

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let me put it this way.  bruce came to my neck of the woods probably 4-7 time this tour and i didn't go.  i knew the tickets would have cost a bundle and i have already seen him about 15 times back in the '80's so i have seen him enough already.  
don't get me wrong people, this last tour bruce sounded great and he played great gongs...i love bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce but i won't pay to see him anymore.  i watch pdm videos here for free.  i did enjoy him back in the eighties....those 4 hour concerts were the best.
if and when the stones come to giants again for 2 shows.....I'm there


everybody say ow

get down jimmy

Are you fucking serious?


The Stones couldn't fill Giants stadium once. Let alone twice. Not anymore.



They could fill it for a week or two if their tickets were the same price.

FOP's statement that Springsteens ticket prices "cost a bundle" is an absurd observation from anyone who goes to Stones concerts.  Bruce's tickets had an upper limit of $99. The Stones' were $450, with an average nationwide of $167 and significantly higher in major cities like New York. LJ mentioned Bon Jovi - I think their prices are even cheaper than Springsteen's.

It speaks volumes that when the Stones do return visits at US cities now they tend to do so several months apart instead of back to back. Expecting many fans to shell out that kind of money to attend two or three shows in one week is a tall order.

Its that reason more than any other which has determined  that the number of Stones shows I intend to see on the next tour they do could be counted on one hand with probably a finger or two to spare. On each of the last two tours, I've seen 13 shows.

If the Stones charged the prices that Bruce does they could still fill any venue on earth for multiple nights.


your math is fuzzy g.  i got 2 1st row upper deck [3rd stage] seats looking straight at the stage at giants for 107 a piece.  you call that a piss in the bucket these days?  i sold them to my friend and his gal only because lisa scored 2 1st row b stage tickets for 160 a piece.

Are you fucking serious?



For the Stones?

I didn't say they were all $450. I said they had an "upper limit" of $450. The tickets for most of the US shows ranged from about $60 - $450, with a number of tickets in the front ten rows going for $99.  The AVERAGE ticket price was around $167. That figure would have been higher in some cities than others - ie, you would have got a higher % of tickets in the highest price range in cities like New York than would have been the case in Missoula, Montana for example.

Not sure how you figure that I'm suggesting Stones tickets are a "piss in the bucket" as I assume that means they're inexpensive. I think its quite obvious I'm suggesting they're a rip off.
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