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Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:21pm

Don't get me wrong I am not one of those bring back Mick Taylor people and I want nothing more than to see Ronnie Would get healthy and continue for many more years with the Rolling Stones.

That said. Is it possible or even likely that the Stones would fire Wood and bring in another guitar player at this late date?

My gut tells me that Jagger will not continue to go down this road with Wood. If it's time tour tour again (nothing will get in the way of another large pay day for Mick) in late 2009 and Wood isn't ready to roll I wouldn't put it past the Stones + especially Mick to say enough is enough and move on with another guitar player.

I have heard various reports over the years that Jagger has not been thrilled with Wood's antics. If the stories are to be believed, Jagger has read Wood the riot act in the past. Is it possible that this could be the straw that breaks Wood's back with the Stones?

If so what direction (if any) would the Stones go in if they were to part ways with Wood?

Hopefully I'm getting way ahead of myself here.

Woody if you are out there, get some help before it's too late. You have many people pulling for you.

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fireontheplatter Ex Member	Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood? Reply #1 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:26pm i highly doubt it...even at this state of condition. he is here until the end....until the bitter end.
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Reply #2 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:28pm

I think they could get away with it quite honestly. They'd have to pick someone who is very well-respected and popular with the Stones crowd. Someone like Clapton, Jeff Beck, or Mick Taylor. I might get flamed for this but I think Ted Nugent would work well with the Stones as well. He's hugely influenced by Chuck Berry, can play both lead and rhythm very well, and has great stage presence. Plus, he's sober.

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PartyDoll MEG Rocks Off Regular Offline Just one drink from your lovin' cup Posts: 3,125	Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood? Reply #6 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:42pm left shoe shuffle wrote on Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:31pm: Holden wrote on Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:28pm: I think Ted Nugent would work well with the Stones as well. Stray Cat Scratch Fever! Shooting flaming arrows at Blondie!! Charlie in a loincloth!!! DING! DING! DING! or is it BONG! BONG! BONG!
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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #10 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 8:29pm

Biggest problem is that he was promoted to full time partner of Stones Inc. (or whatever the legal entity is called) so they can't really fire him, they could still get another guitar player of course. I don't think they'd get someone too "flashy", so my vote goes to Andrew Fairweather-Low, a sideman with talent, as I saw with my own eyes a couple of days ago in a small London club !

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #11 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 9:10pm

If Ronnie survives this latest relapse into the booze but is still too untogether to tour and/or record by a certain as yet unknown future cut off date, then The Stones will face two choices.... either no new tour and megbucks, or tour without Ron using a 'standin' until either Ron recovers sufficiently or, considering the other possibility, Ron has to be permanently replaced due to either irreversible incapacity or death.

Mick still has career ambitions for the band and I don't think he is ready to quit just yet.

Much of 'A Bigger Bang' was recorded just with Mick, Keith and Charlie. 'Bridges To Babylon' had Waddy Watchel playing guitar on almost every song. I think creatively The Stones would continue on without Ron just fine. The loss of first Brian and then Mick Taylor, and later on Bill were all far bigger blows than would be the loss of Ronnie, yet they have continued to roll on just nicely.

There are probably numerous potential candidates to fill Ron's shoes. Even Sid McGinnis from the Letterman Band could fit the bill.... dude plays all the classic licks and styles, looks ok, is sober and reliable......

The biggest consideration for Mick would be the image problems associated with replacing Ron... how it would be perceived by both the fans and the general public.

Sad but true.

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Glimmer Twin Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 273	Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood? Reply #13 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 9:36pm Mick Taylor!! But they would never fire Woodie. This is part of the Stones bad boy image. He's got a long way before he catches up with Kieth. :funny
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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #14 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 9:43pm

Don't put it past them. When Charlie was sick during the recording of ABB and Keith was asked if they would of toured without him. He didn't say no. If it meant one more big tour and (God forbid) Ronnie wasn't up to it. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him replaced. No nit by Mick Taylor and certainly not by Ted Nugent or George Thorogood. WTF are you people thinking? They wouldn't do it and Mick & Keith wouldn't want somebody that high profile. Andy Fairweather - Low or Snowy White. Some non-descrpit lifelong sideman who can play ably but fade into the background when necessary. But of course we all hope Ronny pulls his head out of the bottle and gets his shit straight.

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #15 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 1:57am

They're too far across the road to even consider giving up a band member now. I think Ronnie will recover and they'll be touring next year (see, happy thoughts! Cool

) and want to believe that they wouldn't consider firing him. (Hell, it's not like they have strong feelings against alcoholism, well...)

They're a gang. They've been together for decades. I refuse to think they'd pull the rug under his feet. It would really put me off the Stones.

(And YES, I do live in a parallel universe where the Stones are kind hearted people who would never leave a weaker member behind to go on with their career... No way baby Cheesy

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By the way, is there something wrong with the "Ronnie Update" thread? Can't seem to be able to open it.

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #16 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 5:35am

surely Keith and his missus and family are very close to Ronnie, Jo and their family

this could get ugly

I can see Keith giving Ronnie a massive wedgie * maybe even an atomic

hell he might even get out his gun

* wedgie
is having one's underwear or other garments "wedged" between the buttocks. This can occur naturally, due to tight garments or physical activity; this is referred to as the underwear "riding up". It can also be performed as a prank or as a form of bullying; this is referred to as "giving (a person) a wedgie"

The atomic wedgie entails hoisting the rear waistband of the receiver's underwear up and over their head. When executed from the front, this procedure is known as the atomic melvin. Besides the nutblaster wedgie, the atomic melvin is the most painful type of wedgie for men.

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #17 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 6:31am

Poison Dart wrote on Jul 15^th, 2008 at 7:21pm:

Don't get me wrong I am not one of those bring back Mick Taylor people and I want nothing more than to see Ronnie Would get healthy and continue for many more years with the Rolling Stones.

That said. Is it possible or even likely that the Stones would fire Wood and bring in another guitar player at this late date?

My gut tells me that Jagger will not continue to go down this road with Wood. If it's time tour tour again (nothing will get in the way of another large pay day for Mick) in late 2009 and Wood isn't ready to roll I wouldn't put it past the Stones + especially Mick to say enough is enough and move on with another guitar player.

I have heard various reports over the years that Jagger has not been thrilled with Wood's antics. If the stories are to be believed, Jagger has read Wood the riot act in the past. Is it possible that this could be the straw that breaks Wood's back with the Stones?

If so what direction (if any) would the Stones go in if they were to part ways with Wood?

Hopefully I'm getting way ahead of myself here.

Woody if you are out there, get some help before it's too late. You have many people pulling for you.

It's all in the timing.

If one of the band members died at a time when the band were inactive (eg, like they are now), I think they'd simply disband. They're in uncharted waters as far as bands go at this stage, they surely know they dont have a long shell life left and that would be the best excuse there is for stopping.

However, if anything were to happen to Ronnie AFTER they'd signed contracts for a tour and had set the wheels in motion to put it together, I honestly think they'd go on without him, unfortunately. Not with a permanent replacement of course, though.

they wouldnt fire him for his antics - but they may replace him if he's in a condition where when its past the 'cut off date' (as stones67 describes it) when he has to be ready for a tour, he's incapacitated.

I was pretty horrified when I read that 'volte-face' quote from Keith a couple of years ago where he basically said 9for the first time) they could continue without Charlie or Ronnie, but when it comes down to it, I dont think they'd continue without Charlie

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #18 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 6:37am

Gazza wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 6:31am:

I was pretty horrified when I read that 'volte-face' quote from Keith a couple of years ago where he basically said 9for the first time) they could continue without Charlie or Ronnie, but when it comes down to it, I dont think they'd continue without Charlie

Perhaps it's a matter of elective memory, but I have no recollection of that quote whatsoever!!! Huh

Had he really said that? Going on without Charlie for Christ's sakes?

After all this time, I even feel uneasy with Woody STILL considered by many as the "new" guy or not a 100% Stones member, as he really is, but Charlie?! For the love of God...!

I love the Stones so much and I don't want them to EVER stop, but if it ever came to 'replacing' any of the 4 of them, be it during an inactive period or while on tour, baby, it would all be over.

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #19 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 6:42am

FotiniD wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 6:37am:

Gazza wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 6:31am:

I was pretty horrified when I read that 'volte-face' quote from Keith a couple of years ago where he basically said 9for the first time) they could continue without Charlie or Ronnie, but when it comes down to it, I dont think they'd continue without Charlie

Perhaps it's a matter of elective memory, but I have no recollection of that quote whatsoever!!! Huh

Had he really said that? Going on without Charlie for Christ's sakes?

After all this time, I even feel uneasy with Woody STILL considered by many as the "new" guy or not a 100% Stones member, as he really is, but Charlie?! For the love of God...!

I love the Stones so much and I don't want them to EVER stop, but if it ever came to 'replacing' any of the 4 of them, be it during an inactive period or while on tour, baby, it would all be over.

It was just after ABB came out. The interview was in one of the UK magazines - either Uncut or Mojo. Couldnt believe what I was reading, myself.

Agree with what you say 100%. I'd honestly have zero interest in seeing the Stones of there was a personnel change at this stage.

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Re: Would the Stones fire Ronnie Wood?
Reply #20 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 9:08am

Interesting points.

Historically, we know from Brian that you can indeed be fired from the Stones for, in essence, Stonesing While Intoxicated (SWI). Keith nearly went to prison for SWI and since then has gotten better at keeping it together. Stay tuned on that one too tho!

Mick can hardly get on Ronnie for womanizing.
Pot/Kettle thing.
But he can sure say "hey look, clean yourself up by this date or you are out" -- probably has said it before.

What do you figure life insurance for a Stones guitarist costs???

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Reply #24 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 12:50pm

If they would get rid of Ron.. think about it. It would take piece of their shows.. Ronnie has lots of humour on his stage presence. Keith and Ronnie are together perfect on stage.. they have great chemistry!

Now borrowing words of Richards " When we play alone were crap but when together were pure gold "

I saw in one interview when ronnie was talking about Clapton that Clapton could easily have been replacement for Taylor. Ronnie answered " You gotta be able to live with these guys "
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