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Thanks for the compliments on British men,Like Butter!! Some of 'em look like dockers in frocks,though!! Brian dragged up great coz he was small and pretty. The tastiest Scotsman I've seen in a kilt is the actor who plays Dr Who. Have a great Sunday everybody!!!



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Reply #252 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 12:34pm
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I wonder if the reason the photos of BJ at the concentration camp disappeared is because someone recognized him and took
them just to have pictures of Brian? The people developing the pictures I guess were in Germany or maybe in a place that
really had no connection to the Rolling Stones themselves and just took them for themselves? Brian was trying to say he
was anti-war and the other things you stated. It was the right thing at the wrong time I guess. If I remember right, it
was Anita who wanted him to do it in the first place.
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Thanks for the pic of Flossie Briansbabe!! Flossie rocks!!! Cheesy Kiss
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BriansBabe wrote on Apr 20th, 2008 at 10:36am:
zooeyglass wrote on Apr 20th, 2008 at 9:45am:
BriansBabe wrote on Apr 20th, 2008 at 9:35am:
Stewed n Keefed wrote on Apr 20th, 2008 at 6:11am:
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Hey Steve, wonderful picīs, thanks!!!
And, btw., have you maybe an idea, why are you suddenly no more the starter of this thread????  Sad Sad Sad Sad



That's MY fault, Alex, it happened when I put in the latest poll.  I wish it hadn't, it's not true!!
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Thanks for the info, liebe Lisa!!
Hmmmm...Well, maybe Voodoo can cancel the "Poll fault"????????
What do you think???


Liebe, I'm working on it -- I don't think what you're talking about is possible, but we'll make sure to set things right.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH, liebe Lisa, for trying this for our dear Steve!!!!!


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It's the least I can do since you know I'm going to make everyone crazy with Brian polls from here on out  Roll Eyes

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LOL, no Lisa, your Polls are very good!!!!

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A TRULY WONDERFUL BRIAN FROM THE TRULY WONDERFUL VOODOO


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I nearly fainted when I saw this header!! I just got here---wow! Good thing I have a strong heart... Wink GORGEOUS Brian! Thanks Voodoo--I'm forever beholden to you!
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It's the least I can do since you know I'm going to make everyone crazy with Brian polls from here on out  Roll Eyes

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Bring 'em on, sister! I love 'em... Wink Cool

But yes, our Steve must get credit for his diligence and hard work on our behalf! I hope it can be fixed, and that we know what to do in the future to ensure that we keep giving him the credit. Not your fault at all, Lisa! We are still in the embryonic stages of this board.....so don't  :youmademecrylikeababy
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Reply #260 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 3:17pm
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I agree about the Brian/Nazi uniform thing. I don't think he meant anything harmful or disrespectful. I do think it was his way of doing an anti-war thing, but it wasn't taken well and was just too soon after all the atrocities happened. Look at the buzz the Nazi uniform still evokes---remember when Prince Harry wore one just a couple of years ago to a party? No, not smart. And Brian's photo shoot was probably not smart either. But I don't think it was some defiant, rebellious act either.

The thing that really bothers me is this: Years ago, there was an exhibition of pictures, etc, here having to do with the Anne Frank museum in Holland. I spoke with an older man there,  a Jewish man, and he said that as people die off who were first hand witnesses to the horrors, it will be easier to convince newer generations that nothing every really happened. And that the pictures were staged, or whatever. It's kind of the same thing with Brian and the Stones--the further from his membership in the band, and his death, we get, the easier it is to try to re-write him out of history.

We must never forget. The Holocaust. And even our dear Brian, and his life, his contributions, and his spirit.
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No one can perhaps ever imagine, what an long lasting shock Germans must endure to this day cause of world war 2...you can believe me itīs far away from being forgotten!!!
The word Germany alone is a stigma...and we donīt need a exhibition of pictures, and surly not Brian to remember the horror of Holocaust!!!! For me itīs unacceptable to compare the Stones "try of re-write Brian of history"..with the Holocaust!!!!!!!!!
The one thing is Rock n Roll and the other thing is world war 2...donīt forget maybe some people here have lost a loved family member there!!!  Sad Sad Sad
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O.K. Ladys, let me explain it this way...I love Brian very much, WITH his faults...there is no need to talk faults he made away, thatīs hero-worship and not LOVE...but, well, thatīs only my opinion or point of view how love should be...ya know?

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This is a great book....Smiley Cost me big bucks, though! But, only HALF as much as I paid for my Blinds & Shutters! Yikes.....I am now officially "poor".  :youmademecrylikeababy Roll Eyes
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BriansBabe wrote on Apr 20th, 2008 at 4:26pm:
No one can perhaps ever imagine, what an long lasting shock Germans must endure to this day cause of world war 2...you can believe me itīs far away from being forgotten!!!
The word Germany alone is a stigma...and we donīt need a exhibition of pictures, and surly not Brian to remember the horror of Holocaust!!!! For me itīs unacceptable to compare the Stones "try of re-write Brian of history"..with the Holocaust!!!!!!!!!
The one thing is Rock n Roll and the other thing is world war 2...donīt forget maybe some people here have lost a loved family member there!!!  Sad Sad Sad




Oh, my dear Alex.....Sad I'm so sorry--I didn't mean to compare Brian's situation with the Holocaust! Oh my, no....Sad I was merely using that as another incidence of people with NOT good intentions to try to convince people that horrible things never happened. The farther we get from the atrocities of the Holocaust, the more unscrupulous people will try to convince those who are too young to remember, that the Holocaust never happened. I've heard and read things to that effect already, and it's tragic and wrong! I am of German decent myself, although my family has been in American for centuries. The Holocaust was one of the worst atrocities ever in world history. Stalin's reign of terror {with at least 20 million dead}, and Pol Pot's regime are other unimaginable terrors. 

I understand why seeing Brian in that uniform is so upsetting to you. Sad So many innocent German people---and maybe still associated with the Nazi regime....? I hope not, as the German people are wonderful people!

My apologies again, dear Alex. I never meant to upset you...Sad:(Sad
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Thanks for your understanding, dear Sioux!!!

There is no need for an apology, I just thought, it could be interesting for you all, to hear the feelings about it of someone whoīs German...

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And, thanks for loving German people  Smiley  and not judge over them in generally  Cheesy...love and hugs for you my friend, Alex  Smiley
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Hey Linda, look what I have for you :

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...itīs lovely, no?  Wink

Till tomorrow, much love to YOU and ALL my other dears here, Alex  Kiss

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Reply #271 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 6:37pm
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That is a lovely Brian pic that I have not seen before....Smiley

Yes, I am very interested to hear how you felt about the uniform situation. And yes, I love the German people! Most of those dear people had nothing to do with what happened during the war. And I'm sure the healing process has been long and painful.....and, as you said, it's not over yet. Sad I believe most of the criminals and horrible, sadistic murderers are dead now. But we shall never forget.....

I'm sure Brian was extremely moved when he visited the concentration camp. He really did have a soft heart at times. I wonder if he ever regretted wearing that uniform?
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Yes, he had a soft heart and a gentle soul!!!! And Iīm sure he regretted it very much!!! No one is without faults, right? And we didnīt throw the first stone, ya know? But thatīs another story  Wink...

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Reply #273 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 7:38pm
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I have a theory about that uniform picture.

I think Brian may have been trying to get attention for the purpose of being cast in certain types of movies.  There were some movies being made about that time that were about the war and like Lennon did his movie.

Just a theory. 

It was a stupid thing he did though.  He wasn't thinking. Roll Eyes
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I am from a German family myself as you probably can tell from my married last name and from my maiden name if you knew it.
My relatives came over here to escape the horrible terror of WW1. I think Brian did not think either. He meant no harm but
did not realize how sensitive of a subject it is and it backfired on him in ways he did not anticipate. We will forget about Brian
long before we forget about the Holocaust which hopefully will be never. Some people  attempt to say the Holocaust never
existed but thousands of open facts in  history prove otherwise and this is extremely important for us to remember to
prevent any more recurrences. I watch documentaries on television about WWI and WWII and I have learned what I can
about these events, they teach us a lot. Everyone should watch these documentaries and read up on World History to
learn and understand all that went on to get an idea of the horrors the world went through and to understand how
important it is to never repeat these events again-ever.
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