https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/mick-jagger-strutting-80-teases-new-album-more-touring-2024-06-04/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0_qro3zR-4UajNCZcGykkkv69oIxgDBAxOUGBbzFMlhJ2ZKMJc5BEBNlw_aem_ATIMixDngx-5E3kYEV9CcSTlrvxlqhF5NHMNPBMoqbk3WO-4zJ9uycPmBmn1jcbVubKtvMNz2idNOaBDXcvEZ9-m

Just found this!! Tbh when he says they are considering the offers I really can only see them coming to Europe next cause obviously they go where the money is and the cost of living crisis already has been harsh for Americans to buy tickets this time around, I saw loads of people saying o line how they couldn't even afford one show, so I don't think people in South America with all the political troubles and other shit going on like floodings in Brazil have enough money to get tickets, Europe is a better and more likely market...

Good news!!! Thanks a lot!

So based on Mick's comments for more touring, what do y'all reckon might happen?

I don't think there will be a full-blown South America tour because of the current situation there...political unrests in certain countries, cost of living crisis even worse than in the US and Europe, great parts of Brazil have been flooded recently, met a new friend from Brazil at the Metlife shows who is a dancing teacher and said she is afraid she won't have any clients these days because people need all their money and energy to rebuild their houses...

Could imagine a handful of shows tho in some of the bigger South American cities in December/January and then a European summer tour

Or maybe some shows in Australia+Japan in January/February and European shows starting in September like in 2017

Just my five cents on that^^

"We've got a lot more songs, so I think we may be set up to make another
album quite soon," Jagger said.

well, that certainly got my attention...

1) I havent really warmed very much to the Hackney album, but I have
adjusted a bit. I said to myself, "hey, if it had been an EP with just Angry,
Wide World, and Sweet Sounds on it, how would I have felt?"

Truthfully, I would have been over the moon. So now i just pretend it
was an EP, and the other tracks are just outtakes

2) My view now is that Mick went out of his way to make Hackney
easily digestible for the swirling american masses, which was of course
the smart move, whereas I like his more spicy and pungent and
abrasive stuff.

3) luckily my six months or so of estrangement from the Stones
has done me a world of good, in terms of other interests, none of which '
are musical in any serious way, because there are no other music artists
in the same league as the Stones.  So I've had just brief flings with other
tracks, including Keith's Man and Post Malone's Chemical
(which i'm pretty sure un-credited Mick co-wrote)

4) From what i've heard on youtube, the Stones are playing great on this
amazingly successful (considering there's been almost no hype) tour.
i've always loved the Stones hype and other bullshit, so that's another
adjustment i've had to make, I miss it

5) on the other hand, I particularly like how free Steve and Darryl have
been to do their thing this tour. The more of them two the better...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9rrM3DoFU

Dreamy skies is the only song I listen to

Goo wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:49pm:

Dreamy skies is the only song I listen to

Today I listened HD, again I say "Dreamy Skies" is the best song there...

They should have played it instead of Wild Horses twice at one of the NJ shows...audience there (at least in the pit) was overwhelmingly European and South American, would have had a better reception than OOT in Houston with all the boring Americans... that being said, I talked to a young girl on IG the other day, she only has been a Stones fan since last year and guess why?! Because she listened to HD and fell in love with them because of the new album! I bet there are dozens such stories by teenagers discovering the band because of HD, I wish Mick knew that so that he'd finally dare to play more new songs and not be so fucking scared of them...

Oh wait this isn't the setlist thread xD anyway to get back to the topic of more touring...

Over on IORR people said they heard first hand how some concert promoter from Italy will be negotiating later this month about the Italian shows of next year's European summer tour and someone on FB shared a post yesterday about apparently a handful of South Ameeican shows in February that will be announced in August or September

So this means, probably (just as Macca does in October) 5 or 6 South American dates in February before moving on to Europe and do maybe 14-15 shows there in June/July just like in 2022

sorry, i just tried it again, and "dreamy skies" remains for me one of the
most monotonous Stones songs ever...

mick did this exact same theme so much better in 2002, with a track
having interesting shifting textures and dynamics...

(it was literally my theme song back then as i moved from NYC to
rural australia)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=575l13DoU5E


Mick has also said in an interview that the extra tracks they have
from Hackney have more new and different sounds, which is
what i need and why i'm hoping desperately for it this christmas

Let's do it! I'm a very busy man.

'Dreamy' is  siurely more about taking a break, a riposte in the jungle but outide the urban jungle, clearing your head and trousers, about 'balance' in a way; whereas 'Hide Away' is more a threat to a lover, or fansr, or Teeth or whatever, with a bit of Lennon in '74'/'75+ thrown in (JL's 'deparure' inspiring many songs) blah-blah.
Wake up and smell the coffin, Rev. (I jest)
Any new Stains offerings would/could/will be lovely/gor-geous this Chrimbo.

I think Hackney Diamonds is way better than ABB. Depending on You is a great tune and Keith's Tell Me Straight is my favorite Keef tune since Slipping Away.

Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:21am:

I think Hackney Diamonds is way better than ABB. Depending on You is a great tune and Keith's Tell Me Straight is my favorite Keef tune since Slipping Away. Riffy

True, I'm listening to HD all the time and I basically never listen to ABB, but neither BTB...last album I regularly listen to is VL

So I'm very curious what else the guys have up their sleeves...tbh after what Mick said, I'm kinda suspecting that they might wanna do it like in 2022 and go back into the studio in autumn, take a bit of a break right after the tour but not long enough to get completely out of the groove again. And I think they'd do completely right with that, seeing how incredibly awesome Keith and Ronnie are playing atm

Above, I meant respite rather than riposte,, innit?

Riffhard wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:21am:

I think Hackney Diamonds is way better than ABB

To me is one of the best albums ever, and no, I'm not of those who say, "the new album is the best"... probably this is the best since Tattoo You (made of leftovers) or Some Girls

Hope the new release of "finished material" from the HD sessions is even better than Hackney Diamonds, the "Tattoo You" from HD leftovers

Remember we need two great ballads.  And hurry the fuck up.

What I liked about Hackney Diamond, as opposed to releases like (VL, Bridges To Babylon, A Bigger Bang) is its simple length. Also it’s got some good songs but that’s another topic. All three of the mentioned previous three releases were all over an hour in length. Hackney Diamond is down closer to the classic 40 to 45 minute mark. IMO the Stones did themselves and their fans a disservice by trying to extend VL, Bridges to Babylon, A Bigger Bang to over an hour. IMO they simply didn’t have the material to justify the length. When I listen to any of those three (increasingly rare these days), skip over what I would term a lot of the filler or what would have been, in the old days, called outtakes where inevitably (over time) they would start to become overrated simply due to its unavailability, rarity.

Listening to VL, Bridges to Babylon, A Bigger Bang becomes tiresome over TIME. Why? They’re too damn long! IMO

Wow that's such a good observation about the length of the albums! It didn't even really occur to me thid clesrly before but you're totally right! HD is a record you can listen to start to finish without drifting off or getting bored, well I used to skip Mess It Up cause I don't like the synthesizers but I really like the live version so I'm not skipping any songs anymore on this record 😅

Meanwhile out of 16 songs on ABB I only really listen to 5 regularly and from the 1e ones on BTB it's 5-6...there are some songs on these records I only listened to like once or twice because I didn't like them and never gave them a chance again :-X so I hope that for the upcoming record the guys won't squeeze too much material onto it and maybe rather give us some outtakes later as a special edition or whatever^^

Edit: while counting how many songs I'm actually listening to and enjoying on those records Inwas thinking maybe we should have a thread for that lol, like everyone can state to how many songs on each record they're actually listening to instead of skipping them, that would be interesting, maybe I'll make a thread for that later ;D cause tbh the amount if songs per album that I don't skip is my measure to indicate whether an album is great or not, e.g. I don't skip a single song on Exile or Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers :D

ronnie-woody wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 1:45am:

thinking maybe we should have a thread for that, everyone can state to how many songs on each record they're actually listening to instead of skipping them, that would be interesting, maybe I'll make a thread for that later cause tbh the amount if songs per album that I don't skip is my measure to indicate whether an album is great or not, e.g. I don't skip a single song on Exile or Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers

1)  i sorta do a version of that kind of ranking myself, specifically how
many songs on each album do i (currently) regard as an essential part of
the Stones legacy. My two lowest ranked:

Hackney Diamonds 3
Satanic Majesties 4

There are no other studio albums for which I rank less than half of the
tracks as "essential"

The only albums I have at 100% are Banquet, Bleed, and Sticky. Exlle
misses by one.

The highest absolute number is 25 for Finished Outtakes

2) However based on my personal history there is still hope for
Hackney. Because there are three previous albums which took me
over a year to appreciate: Blue&Lonesome, Steel Wheels, and Satanic.

Cool that I'm not the only one doing that! I think I'll actually make a new thread so we won't abuse this one and then everyone who likes can add their numbers for the records they wanna add them for :D
Also I really hope one day you'll be able to apprecciate HD because it's such a great record <3

Yesterday a French radio DJ who has been right about Stones shows in France many times before posted about them playing in Marseille next year

https://www.facebook.com/share/V7VsBxRMzt1vf618/

And today there is an article about "some shows" in South America next year

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/11792150/the-rolling-stones-madonna-concert-attendance-record/amp/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3yf-meZ-iGA_9-K1yIPVm_Fd-yuLTstByma_CK5i5untY7jte15tkiUWU_aem_GGaVWB-5mBkTBAJbElUljw

Sounds like a handful of Latin American shows maybe in February, followed by a European summer tour  ;D

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 2:15am:

Yesterday a French radio DJ who has been right about Stones shows in France many times before posted about them playing in Marseille next year https://www.facebook.com/share/V7VsBxRMzt1vf618/ And today there is an article about "some shows" in South America next year https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/11792150/the-rolling-stones-madonna-concert-attendance-record/amp/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3yf-meZ-iGA_9-K1yIPVm_Fd-yuLTstByma_CK5i5untY7jte15tkiUWU_aem_GGaVWB-5mBkTBAJbElUljw Sounds like a handful of Latin American shows maybe in February, followed by a European summer tour  ;D

As these things take some time to plan, it does not surprise me that feelers are out there already for 2025...but thats all they are at the moment, IMO.
Even with the 2-3% economic growth forecast, the financial states of SA are in such flux and all, that it is hard to pinpoint a possibility as easy as other regions on the planet.
This in nothing new. The Stones have cancelled a few SA tours throughout the years (starting with The 75 Tour of The Americas, right?) .
Hope it works out...It will be a good excuse to head down there again...maybe Costa Rica FINALLY!

Everything I have read so far about the SA rumour doesn't sound like it will be a full grown tour since they seem to wanna play a tour in Europe in summer...I think they will do the same that Macca does this October and play 5-6 shows top in some bigger cities spanning no longer than 1 month...maybe 2 in Buenos Aires, 2 in Sao Paulo and then 1 or 2 elsewhere, this seems highly reasonable, seeing how in those places there also would be people with the most money to spend, presumably...plus I've heard from people who know people and so on and so forth that what apparently has been the problem for them in most recent years, why they didn't go back to SA since 2016, is getting insurance for a full tour...so a handful of shows probably would be the best option seen from every aspect

I was just randomly thinking anout this after watching some IG reel about Greece and then wondered whether the Stones would come there...so I'm posting this here in this thread because I don't wanna make a new one, since it's loosely related to upcoming touring lol...I looked up when they last played in Greece and if I didn't overlook something, then they only played there one single time so far in 1967 :o any guesses why they don't like going there? I mean they also have been in Portugal e.g. and it's also a small southern European country...plus Greece has more (or the same amount of) inhabitants than Sweden or Finland where they also played more often before and more recently

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

I was just randomly thinking anout this after watching some IG reel about Greece and then wondered whether the Stones would come there...so I'm posting this here in this thread because I don't wanna make a new one, since it's loosely related to upcoming touring lol...I looked up when they last played in Greece and if I didn't overlook something, then they only played there one single time so far in 1967 :o any guesses why they don't like going there? I mean they also have been in Portugal e.g. and it's also a small southern European country...plus Greece has more (or the same amount of) inhabitants than Sweden or Finland where they also played more often before and more recently

Ask our Irina about the Stones in Greece...fascinating stuff

spring 2023 after BV assured everybody that the album and tour
were imminent (even setting up a special tour page), on these pages
I countered that the album would not be out til the end of the year and
the tour not til 2024

everybody uses insider info, but since i have no access to that, i use
reasoned analysis.

my analysis is that the Stones will have a new album in our hands by
the end of this year. Although as we know it was mostly recorded at
the same time as Hackney, it will sound very different. It will
be as black as Hackney is white, and will divide Stones fans
the way a Stones album is supposed to...

For this reason and because of various world crises, the Stones will
take 2025 off

They won't take 2025 off cause they can't afford it at their age, they clearly wanna tour some more or Mick wouldn't have so candidly stated that they are looking at offers rn, and they will VERY likely tour next year when they all hopefully stay fit enough...SA in the beginning of the year and Europe in summer has been mentioned multiple times now and makes loads of sense, they could do so maybe already with the next new album...I agree with you that it could be quite logical that another new album could be published by the end of 2024 for Christmas but that would make touring in 2025 even MORE obvious and logical cause they already waited too long between the release of HD and the tour this summer...imo they should already have played some SA or Australian shows this February/March to keep the momentum of HD going...

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 7:05am:

They won't take 2025 off cause they can't afford it at their age

^^ COMEDY GOLD ^^

Paranoid Android wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 7:13am:

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 7:05am: They won't take 2025 off cause they can't afford it at their age ^^ COMEDY GOLD ^^

;D ;D I didn't mean financially OBVIOUSLY LOL (maybe philosophically tho lol ;) :P )
(altho sadly for other normal and non-famous senior citizens that might be true unfortunately and they gotta work if they want to or not...) I meant of course you never know what will happen when you're over a certain age basically, plus Ronnie has had health problems in the recent years, that's why I said I hope they will be fit enough for next year, but currently I don't doubt it, I mean look at them this tour^^

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 7:05am:

They won't take 2025 off cause they can't afford it at their age....I agree with you that it could be quite logical that another new album could be published by the end of 2024 for Christmas

^^ COMEDY GOLD ^^



I dont think Christmas or any holiday is even a factor when it comes to sales, unless you are WHAM! , Mariah Carey, Bing Crosby. etc with those annual holiday songs...this year everyone of us should BUY a copy of Run, Rudolph, Run by Keef! to see if it makes a dent on any chart, lol. If Justin Bieber can have the #4 song, certainly Keef can crack the top 10, IMO...anyway, thats a thread for this November....



ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 7:05am:

imo they should already have played some SA or Australian shows this February/March to keep the momentum of HD going...

As I previously posted (as a joke) Maybe thats why the featured the Port of Vancouver in the poster...as a secret hint...to send one of the NA sets down yonder for this ANZ/SA tour!

Off topic, does anyone recall, that maniac from IORR who was obsessed...and I mean OBSESSED, with the show in Havana...speculating, tracking cargo ships , manifests, rumors of all sorts with the Stones equipment from some UK port all the way to Havana??

It was interesting for a minute, then I  got bored of it.  I would have assumed it would have shipped  from Merida MX (as CDMX were the last shows for Ole) for Havana...but what do I know (answer = NOTHING)...I just let these tours happen and show up on show day, lol. Anyway, can't believe that was 8 years ago already

I do hope they tour, but as I said in 2017, 2019, 2020, 20222, 2023, and earlier this year, Unless I can catch a non-stop flt from Raleigh or Charlotte, my touring days are pretty much over

I kinda feel Christmas was a factor when it came to selling tickets for this current tour because they haven't announced tours this early in a while, only like 2-3 months ahead...also they released the Racket show in December, didn't they?

Since we're all just throwing out wild guessed here atm, my wild guess is they'll be back in the studio by late September/early October like in 2022, they probably wanna keep the momentum going

Only started reading IORR in like 2018 but I'm not even surprised someone figured that shit out lol, maybe they had some general experience with freight shipping or so xD...some of those people on IORR could be detectives LOL but my friends and I have learned quite a bit from their "Sherlocking" skills over the years, as we call it, and even figured out some other stuff that they didn't :P

Wait didn't they play in Charlotte in 2019 and 2021? Did you go to these shows?
When it comes to the Stones, I accepted a few years ago that if I wanna see them, I gotta do the travelling, they've been in Germany a lot since I first saw them and I'm grateful for that, but I had to drive/take trains for 3-4h each time anyway...they should just finally come back to Frankfurt lol, I wish I had been alive and living in Frankfurt in the 70s cause I'm living a 5 minute walk away from Festhalle and they played there like 3-4 times in the 70s ;D

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:18am:

Wait didn't they play in Charlotte in 2019 and 2021? Did you go to these shows?

They played Raleigh in 2015 and Charlotte in 2021.
My comment was that I will only go to a show if I can get a non-stop flight from either airport.
I will drive back home to DC though, if I feel like it...its only ~4 hrs away

Some tracks might be as black aS the ace of spades; some tracks might be as white as Dolly's fresh knickers. "Who really knooows??", as Jack Miller would have said at this juncture.

some may be making wild guesses (based on as usual what they want to
happen, not what makes sense, or what has been revealed in interviews
lyrics etc)

three times BV has confirmed tours, three times i went public saying
it was not gonna happen, and three times i was right

number of times i said "no way" and the tour actually happened: zero.

the worst i've done is say that the first show of this tour would be
postponed, and it went ahead, but it was a very close call, because
of keith being unwell

so i've got a track record. doesnt mean i'm right this time, i make mistakes,
but i'm not making wild guesses. i'm carefully weighing every lyric, every
offhand comment and piece of art/advertising

so we'll see what happens, and dont forget to remind me how wrong i
was if they do shows next year, because i wont forget if they dont

anyway, i have one related question. i've given my opinion on it already,
and nobody has yet responded (with anything other than the usual lame
jokes)

why does Mick twice clearly sing "you think the party's over but its
only just begun" only to finish the song most recently and emphatically
four times with "the party's over!"?

Mick singing "the party's over" clearly has nothing at all to do with the Stones not wanting to tour anymore, or otherwise he wouldn't publically state in an interview that they want to tour and even have concrete offers for Europe and SA that they are currently looking at (so this isn't just my wishful thinking) if he was sick of it, he wouldn't say anything by talking around the question in his best politican manner like he has done loads of times before...he has a tendency to say nothing in many words and to say a lot in few words imo, maybe he should run for president :P :P :P

I think the lyrics is his usually tongue in cheek commentary on the current societal and political state in Europe and the US...he can claim loads of times that the Stones aren't political lol but they've always been in some way, also him reminding everyone to vote in November says a lot (tho I believe he hasn't done this since the president-come-nursing home resident embarrassed himself on TV)

r-w, most of what you just wrote i agree with, and have previously
stated, that Mick is almost always doing cultural commentary...

but please note that i never said they didnt WANT to tour in 2025, just
that they wouldnt be touring due to circumstances beyond their control...

so let's review: "angry" is about repressed anger/denial, "get close" is about
romantic self-delusion, "depending on you" is about passivity and weakness,
"whole wide world" is about false hopes, "mess it up" is about the
stones saying nothing straightforward on this album because otherwise
they would have got cancelled, "live by the sword" is about the mighty
(like Drake) falling victim to the same tactics theyve been using on others...

finally this album is fun for me. Here's the best reveal yet:

"sweet sounds" is about a guy's last moments on earth, he's dying
after having been hit by an artillery shell. The key line is "Hear the
sound of the drums, As it echoes through the valley, And it bursts"
That's exactly how the sound of artillery has been written about for
well over a hundred years. But all the lines fit perfectly, as does the
music. The guy closes his eyes, he seems to have died, but his heart
starts up again, as he testifies again briefly to the glory he is passing
into. Then he's all the way dead.

That's why Gaga/Chanel's part comes in late. She's the voice of an
angel joining in from the other side and escorting him to the great beyond

You remind me of the guy in Almost Famous - the kid's writing mentor.

hey holden, don't you spit in my face. Why you angry with me?
I'm not angry with you

anyway, here's the Stones confirming that i'm right about "sweet sounds".
Watch the animation they project while playing the song: lush green
foliage withers and browns and dies...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0FrQtkHPBc

So yeah, holden, let's hear your brilliant alternative theory on why
the Stones entertain their audience with the sight of plants dying...

I think, and I recall that Steve has literally said so in an interview last year, that SSOH is an hommage to Charlie, that's why the drum part and also the dying...

I think you're utterly overexaggerating here with your interpretations of the lyrics, Rev, of course you can see and interpret whatever you want but at the end of the day Mick is a songwriter and not an oracle/fortune teller and lyrics are just lyrics and not a prophecy...

It wouldn't be the Stones and it wouldn't be Mick tho if there wasn't an interesting twist to the lyrics, everyone can write bland pop radio stuff, even Mick if he wants to, see the lyrics for Mess it Up...

So your theory is that a video of healthy lush green foliage slowly and tortuously
browning and withering and dying is somehow a tribute to Charlie Watts ?!

Are you sure you didnt mean Joe Biden ?  :)

Hey brother that wasn't an insult!

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:50am:

some may be making wild guesses (based on as usual what they want to happen, not what makes sense, or what has been revealed in interviews lyrics etc) three times BV has confirmed tours, three times i went public saying it was not gonna happen, and three times i was right number of times i said "no way" and the tour actually happened: zero. the worst i've done is say that the first show of this tour would be postponed, and it went ahead, but it was a very close call, because of keith being unwell so i've got a track record. doesnt mean i'm right this time, i make mistakes, but i'm not making wild guesses. i'm carefully weighing every lyric, every offhand comment and piece of art/advertising so we'll see what happens, and dont forget to remind me how wrong i was if they do shows next year, because i wont forget if they dont anyway, i have one related question. i've given my opinion on it already, and nobody has yet responded (with anything other than the usual lame jokes) why does Mick twice clearly sing "you think the party's over but its only just begun" only to finish the song most recently and emphatically four times with "the party's over!"?

Weren’t you posting on here in 2023 that the new Stones album had 50 songs on it and it was titled “Blacksmiths”.
Lol

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

So your theory is that a video of healthy lush green foliage slowly and tortuously browning and withering and dying is somehow a tribute to Charlie Watts ?! Are you sure you didnt mean Joe Biden ?  :)

Lol Biden is a fucking joke and should step back in order not to embarrass his party even more xD but anyway, back on topic, the song itself is imo an hommage to Charlie, I'm agreeing here with what Steve said and because it makes sense...the choice to use that particular video probably is to underline the flow of life, everyone has to die at one point or another, and preferably, hopefully, this only happens when we are all old and whithered, after we enjoyed our youth (that's what the green obviously is standing for xD)

leonid wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 9:47pm:

Weren’t you posting on here in 2023 that the new Stones album had 50 songs on it and it was titled “Blacksmiths”.

yes, something like that. i try to be entertaining, especially when there's
no interesting news or rumours. i try to guess what the Stones might be
up to, based on scant evidence. The 50 song thing wasnt really that
wildly wrong since 1) Mick said they started the Hackney sessions
with about 100 songs before whittling it down to 24, and 2) my 50 number
included 25 covers and 25 originals, so i believe 24 is reasonably close to 25 

(and, dear r-w, i was just making a cheap joke at poor old Joe's expense. 
(Sorry, Joe). basically i think we're pretty much on the same wavelength
when it comes to the withering foliage, that is, that there's life-and-death
symbolism there. Not just in the concert graphics but also in the song
itself, which is the main point i was making. so i'm not opposed to the
notion that Charlie's passing is one of the reasons the track has
its sweet-sad funereal vibe...)

The Latin American tour promoter said in an interview that was shared on FB (https://ar.radiocut.fm/audiocut/daniel-grinbank-galperin-es-profundamente-ignorante/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1yK6nvRL84ge4FU369G2tP0nB9SVaMHfYpDyTNoZmRQUKtaBdaDKNQ2Bg_aem_WIBa5cmrA9_279YUaIsB-Qthe Stones had offers for South America, Australia and Europe and won't come to South America next year cause they chose Europe

Unfortunate for the South American fans, but I'm thrilled we'll be getting to travel around Europe again next summer like in 2022, what great fun that was :D tho I totally thought they could have pulled off like 5 shows in Argentina and Brazil in February...maybe they want that time to work on the new record...

It's also a bit sad to think we'll only get to see them live again in a year, hope they'll truly continue working on that other new album soon in order to keep the great momentum going, Keith and Ronnie played brilliantly...

Well, I came here to post that news, as the one who posted is a member of our message board in Spanish. What a pity!

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 6:20am:

because of various world crises, the Stones will take 2025 off

so the first shoe has now dropped


ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 9:19am:

the Stones won't come to South America next year

while we're waiting for the second shoe, please keep in mind that they
seem certain to be compensating us for their (unavoidable) lack of shows
in 2025 with a radically new album before christmas this year, plus some
nice promotional activities...

(likely to resume shows in early 2026 latin america)

In pantomime lizard costumes?
Maybe with a delayed album, titled ''26 Siicks'?.
Or '26 Drum Sticks'. Or 'Anything Will, Frankly, Be Lovely'.
Happy days.

a radically new album before christmas this year, plus some
nice promotional activities...


Rev, you have my attention again, damn it.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 8:27am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 6:20am: because of various world crises, the Stones will take 2025 off so the first shoe has now dropped ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 20th, 2024 at 9:19am: the Stones won't come to South America next year while we're waiting for the second shoe, please keep in mind that they seem certain to be compensating us for their (unavoidable) lack of shows in 2025 with a radically new album before christmas this year, plus some nice promotional activities... (likely to resume shows in early 2026 latin america)

You think they’re going to release a new album before Christmas 2024, then take the entirety of 2025 off? Then start a tour in Latin America in 2026? That is completely ridiculous and definitely not happening.

I agree with leonid...tbh I cannot see them release an album this year even tho I'm obviously hoping for it, but in order for it to be out in December at the latest, they probably would have to be back in the studio within the next few weeks and finish it up, but Mick said they still need to write and then record some more songs, it's not like they got it all done and just need to mix it, so it takes time...but after this tour they all deserve a break, they're 80...the earliest I see them back in the studio is October and that would leave them less than 2 months...not happening

If they're releasing another new album soon (which I guess will simply be called Hackney Diamonds 2), then maybe that will happen in April/May and the European tour will start in June, which would make perfect sense

But maybe they need more time to work on the album and will tour Europe with HD and not HD2 already...

ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2024 at 12:00am:

I agree with leonid...tbh I cannot see them release an album this year even tho I'm obviously hoping for it, but in order for it to be out in December at the latest, they probably would have to be back in the studio within the next few weeks and finish it up, but Mick said they still need to write and then record some more songs, it's not like they got it all done and just need to mix it, so it takes time...but after this tour they all deserve a break, they're 80...the earliest I see them back in the studio is October and that would leave them less than 2 months...not happening If they're releasing another new album soon (which I guess will simply be called Hackney Diamonds 2), then maybe that will happen in April/May and the European tour will start in June, which would make perfect sense But maybe they need more time to work on the album and will tour Europe with HD and not HD2 already...

I think a new album and Europe tour is totally possible in 2025. Jagger even hinted as much.
But the idea of them releasing a new album in 2024 then doing nothing for the entirety of 2025 is insanity. Not happening. No way.

Yeah, totally agree, they are so eager and hungry for touring these days and are having a total blast (okay Mick looked utterly done by the end of the last few shows and couldn't even smile anymore during final bow in Ridgedale :/ so give him a break, he more than deserves it) but the will to continue is definitely there amd strong, so they will be back on stage as soon as possible and not wait a year and do nothing (granted they all hopefully stay fit), and if they feel Europe next summer would be the right time for the next shows, then so be it...

I was honestly surprised tho to hear there wouldn't even be a handful of South American shows early next year, would have been perfect to stay in form, but maybe they are planning to work on the album and promote its release then...would be a possibility too, maybe release it in April and play a single show like at the Racket and then keep on rehearsing a bit more and start the tour soon after...that's at least what I would bet on

leonid wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2024 at 8:41pm:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 21st, 2024 at 8:27am: Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 6:20am: because of various world crises, the Stones will take 2025 off so the first shoe has now dropped ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 20th, 2024 at 9:19am: the Stones won't come to South America next year while we're waiting for the second shoe, please keep in mind that they seem certain to be compensating us for their (unavoidable) lack of shows in 2025 with a radically new album before christmas this year, plus some nice promotional activities... (likely to resume shows in early 2026 latin america) You think they’re going to release a new album before Christmas 2024, then take the entirety of 2025 off? Then start a tour in Latin America in 2026? That is completely ridiculous.

okay, i admit i did slightly misspeak. i didnt mean them taking 2025 off
entirely, just not doing any big tour...

so, new album late this year AND another new album late next year

transitioning their themes, their sound-on-record, and their audience
away from the white bread-teen vogue cosmetics ad cover art-
elton-mcartney politically correct version of the Stones we got
on Hackneyed into something much more in keeping with
their controversial legacy and how powerful and funky and soulful
they still sound live

I foresee Pumpy Bill W transitioning to a quite different tea-mug; one somewhat less beige and maybe even in the magenta-y range of the palette, or at least somewhere in the 'warmer part of the char-vessels spectrum.,'

So Rev is saying Hackney Diamonds was a left to the noggin. Her comes the uppercut!

Someone on FB posted about apparently a show in Paris in the making for next year...would love to go to Paris again! Tho I'm not sure if anything could top 2022 there, this show in Paris was among my top 2 along with Hyde Park 1 <3

On our message board in Spanish we're talking about two shows in Spain, one of them at Bernabéu in Madrid

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 24^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

On our message board in Spanish we're talking about two shows in Spain, one of them at Bernabéu in Barcelona, Cataluña

2 in Spain, interesting...when was the last time they played 2 shows there? (answer: in 2007 during ABB tour they played 4 in Spain) Depending on how many other shows I could and might go to and where they are, Barcelona might be cool too, haven't been there since 2009  ;D wait isn't the Bernabeu in Madrid? Oo

I'm curious about rumours for Germany...praying it's not gonna be Munich again (the Olympic stadium is the most dreadful venue ever and staff ALWAYS seems to be entirely incompetent there...plus annoying snobs who run out before the encore and yell at you for standing cause they "bought a seat") but thankfully that's unlikely...I want Frankfurt since I live there, could save hotel+travel costs :P

OUCH! Bernabéu is in Madrid, I fixed that error in my original post but left yours with it

Soo...probably Madrid again, Paris again, Vienna again...thank god there will be construction work on the Olympic stadium in Munich :P but they could do it like Adele and play on the fairgrounds there, apparently there fit 100k people, as I remember reading when Helene Fischer played there some years ago... ::)

Last time in Spain was 2022


ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 24^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

when was the last time they played 2 shows there? (answer: in 2007 during ABB tour they played 4 in Spain)

They played 5 shows in Spain in 2007 https://rocksoff.org/2007.htm

But you´re right in one way, since then they have also palyed one show in 2014, 2017 and 2022

Check out the Stats page (the only part on Gazza's setlist that was my idea and was created by me based on Gazza's information)

They have played 26 shows in Spain in 11 different years (1976-2022)

Lick the image to go

https://rocksoff.org/headers2023/j3-image-14.png

Or lick here: https://rocksoff.org/stats.htm

I updated that image, if you already watched be sure to click "reload" until 2024 appears, also the "years w/stones" column is now on the right, it was hard to know the number associated to the country

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 8:27am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 6:20am: because of various world crises, the Stones will take 2025 off so the first shoe has now dropped ronnie-woody wrote on Jul 20th, 2024 at 9:19am: the Stones won't come to South America next year while we're waiting for the second shoe...

fyi, on iorr "mpj200" is generally considered to be an insider...

fwiw, mpj200 just dropped the following tidbit on iorr's "euro tour 2025" thread...

its not enough for me to categorize it as "the second shoe"

so i'll instead describe it as "the first sock"

"Mick has other thoughts on what’s next. At least at the moment he does.
He wants to finish another album first. Lots of bits and bobs to finish up on
it as well, before a tour can happen."

This war seems to be ramping up. It's quite possibly over for tours.

Some Guy wrote on Aug 4^th, 2024 at 10:27am:

This war seems to be ramping up. It's quite possibly over for tours.

You must be talking about Aerosmith xD seeing how both Mick and Ronnie have been hinting at more touring to come, and multiple concert promoters as well as well-connected music journalists have been mentioning concrete negotiations and even places for them to play in Europe next year the tour seems highly likely...

As long as Mick, Keith and Ronnie are fit, they will tour

And if they truly already have 3/4th of the next album done, they could even finish it up this autumn/winter, release it in spring, and tour behind it in summer, and follow the plan/timeline that they originally had for 2023 and that was crossed due to vinyl pressing delays, but seeing how they know about this issue beforehand now, I'm sure that as the cunning businessman that Mick is, he is totally taking this into account this time round...

confirmed outsider rev20 july 21:


Some Guy wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2024 at 7:01pm:

a radically new album before christmas this year, plus some nice promotional activities... Rev, you have my attention again, damn it.

more info from reputed insider mpj200 today aug 6:

They have a good bit of numbers finished musically. But need to cut
vocals on most. And likely a few new ones. That’s what they will do
unless Mick changes his mind. Ronnie and Keith are keen to go back
into the studio. Keep your ears open near the end of the year.



more guesswork from confirmed outsider rev20 today aug 6:

Mick already working on lyrics/vocals for October single, November album

From what mpj200 said I think October/November is far too soon for a new album release, this would mean that they already would have to work on it again rn, and I kinda doubt that they wouldn't at least take a few weeks off to chill after this long tour, at least Keith and Ronnie, Mick is crazy enough to just keep working, that workaholic knows no chill lol
anyway, my guess is first single no sooner than December/January and new album March/April just in time to play it live during the European summer tour starting late May/early June

just now:

Organizers of three @taylorswift13 concerts in #Vienna this week called
them off after officials announced arrests over an apparent plot to launch
an #attack on an event in the Vienna area such as the concerts.

also:

I agree that the idea of them getting the album out by christmas is
implausible IF the situation is as mpj200 stated, that is, quite
a bit of work remaining.  But I think both 1) the work on most of the
tracks was completed long before now including lyrics and vocals,
and 2) yes, despite the lack of leaks/rumours, except for the week
or so off for mick's birthday, they have indeed been recording two
or more brand new tracks, fulfilling keith's forever-wish to get the
band into the studio while they're still road-sharp

(from my lips to God's ear)

A friend sent me an article about the cancelled Taylor Swift shows last night...it's heartbreaking for the fans but at least the police did a good job...tbh idk why they all had to be cancelled even after they already caught the guy, but on the other hand, after just being able to literally RUN into that very same stadium 2 years ago for the Stones show without anyone stopping me and others, nobody looking at my bum bag...it probabpy was the best decision, seeing how they were too fucking dumb to handle the entry properly...I mean we were just crazies who wanted to be in front row, but if someone with a bomb or gun could just run in as well....

I don't think the guys just took one week off after the tour and then went right back at it...however, I have a very strong feeling that Mick and Keith probably are gonna meet up quite soon to discuss all further matters :D
In 2022 they also started working a bit again in late August/early September already before ptoperly resuming in early October...would imagine it to be similar this year

are they in the studio?....post tour?...thats great!....

There is no indication whatsoever that they are rn, but I'm guessing very strongly that they will be soon-ish (September/October)

https://i.ibb.co/zXzsDzJ/images-voltax-Media-Library-mmsport-si-01j4sq6hj3fxga9grd7q.jpg

Mick (and Leon Marchand of the French swimming team who won gold for the 400m medley, plus Mick's PA Dom) watching the athletics session at Stade de France yesterday

So yeah, as I said, they're chilling (for now) but I'm sure we'll get some rumours about recording sooner rather than later ;)

I bet they play parts of Europe next
England
Netherlands
Germany
France
Sweden
Poland

Would gladly go to shows in all of those countries you mentioned, but apart from getting to see them in London one more time, I'm hoping for excuses to go back to Rome, Dublin or Edinburgh, beautiful cities that I've spent far too little time at during my past visits...and combining this with a Stones show would be even better :D

Think they'll add a show in Switzerland too, seeing how they couldn't make Bern happen last time...wouldn't mind Copenhagen or Prague either hahaha

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 7^th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

Organizers of three @taylorswift13 concerts in #Vienna this week called them off after officials announced arrests over an apparent plot to launch an #attack on an event in the Vienna area such as the concerts.

https://images2.imgbox.com/89/fe/fqomVGLP_o.jpg

ronnie-woody wrote on Aug 9^th, 2024 at 6:41am:

Think they'll add a show in Switzerland too, seeing how they couldn't make Bern happen last time...wouldn't mind Copenhagen or Prague either hahaha

If they actually wanna play in Switzerland, it would have to be in May or June (depending when the tour starts), seeing that in July there will be the women's Euro in Switzerland and all football stadiums will be in use

quite a depressing photograph...

why? because it means that the hackneyed-vanilla-fallon era will not
be ending as soon as i hoped...

no album this year, not til the end of next year

but i guess in stones-time, two years between albums still counts as "soon"

sadly my forecast remains the same for no big shows next year,
due to world events


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c9/f1/r61bocLf_t.jpg

Mick can hang out with whomever he wants without it meaning anything for their music, especially when Jimmy Fallon is a TV show host and not a producer...like what's your take then on Andy Watt being there for many shows of the HD tour and being backstage/at soundchecks, seeing how he produced HD, would this in your opinion also be a continuation of the HD era and would you rather want Don Was back??

Imo I think the next album ANYWAY will be a continuation of HD and probably simply will be called HD2 because they recorded a lot of it already during the same sessions...

1) Mick "signifies", that is, signals in everything he does. As Keith
once put it, Mick is never being straight with anybody, he's always
playing an angle 2) there are two reasons i've decided that Hackney
is not my cup of tea, the compositions and the mix, both of which Mick has
taken credit for. I've never said one bad word about Watt's or Keith's
contributions 3) and i've recently praised Mick for letting us
know with his signifying lyrics that most of his HD compositions are,
just like with Satanic, slightly nasty jokes 4) there is no part of the
Hackney Diamonds saga less Stones-ey and more ludicrous than that
live theatre "show" with Fallon in London. I'm not disputing that it was
probably a good business decision for Mick to align the Stones
with fallon, sydney sweeny, and mainstream usa in 2023. That Mick
has chosen at this moment to signal, via fallon, that nothing much has
changed yet, thats very significant. So no point releasing now
the more sincere and challenging tracks they have from the Hackney
sessions, the world is still too deaf and dumb.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

Mick "signifies", that is, signals in everything he does. As Keith once put it, Mick is never being straight with anybody, he's always playing an angle

1) paraphrasing a similar quote from Linda Ronstadt, about her time hanging
out with Mick: He's as good as they say, and as bad. Its like he's always
offering you a beautiful red apple, and even though you know its slightly
poisoned, you take it anyway 2) So i've been thinking a bit more about
the beautiful red apple Mick gave us a few years back, the Fully Finished
Outtakes, and now I know why 3) he was testing the market, to see if
fans these days preferred the half i went crazy over, the brilliant but very
different stuff they kept in the can in the 80s 90s because it wasn't commercial
enough, or the other half, the familiar but second-rate songs 4) and judging
by what i read on the various fan forums, the clear winner was the second-
rate classic-sounding tracks 5) So they gave the people what they wanted,
the shiny waxed apple of Hackney Diamonds. Don't mind the maggots.

Only deceased humorists have a prob with maggots, but not really when it comes to it.

The following from Stones twitter today. Hopefully it signals
the kind of stuff we'll get from them next time around.

I Go Wild! “I like that song. I really got into the lyrics
on that one. One of the wordy ones.” - Mick Jagger

Daylight drabs and night time witches
Working girls and blue stockings
Dance hall babes and body poppers
Waitresses with broken noses
Checkout girls striking poses
And politicians' garish wives
With alcoholic cunts like knives

Listening to Hackney Diamonds last night at pool- phenomenal album! I feel we are entering a new creative period. More music will follow. :)

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 8:50am: Mick "signifies", that is, signals in everything he does. As Keith once put it, Mick is never being straight with anybody, he's always playing an angle 1) paraphrasing a similar quote from Linda Ronstadt, about her time hanging out with Mick: He's as good as they say, and as bad. Its like he's always offering you a beautiful red apple, and even though you know its slightly poisoned, you take it anyway 2) So i've been thinking a bit more about the beautiful red apple Mick gave us a few years back, the Fully Finished Outtakes, and now I know why 3) he was testing the market, to see if fans these days preferred the half i went crazy over, the brilliant but very different stuff they kept in the can in the 80s 90s because it wasn't commercial enough, or the other half, the familiar but second-rate songs 4) and judging by what i read on the various fan forums, the clear winner was the second- rate classic-sounding tracks 5) So they gave the people what they wanted, the shiny waxed apple of Hackney Diamonds. Don't mind the maggots.

What world crisis are you referring to in regards to claiming the Stones will take 2025 off?

Do you seriously think that Mick Jagger leaked the Fully Finished Outtakes to find out what fans liked? That’s utterly ridiculous and it boggles my mind how you come to these conclusions. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

...i've recently praised Mick for letting us know with his signifying lyrics that most of his Hackney compositions are, just like with Satanic, slightly nasty jokes

As i explained earlier, it took me about nine months of puzzlement to reach
this (unpopular) conclusion...

Its too bad i didnt see until now the following Sept 2023 quote from Mick (as
reported by Timeisonourside). It would have clued me in a lot sooner...


"The songs on Hackney Diamonds, some are funny,
some are a joke, some are tongue-in-cheek, and
some are a little bit more serious."

In Darryl Jones' new interview, he says...

“I’m looking forward to getting a band together for next spring and both
before and after the next Stones’ tour. There’s a lot of material that they’ve
already recorded, quite a lot from this last record as well. So I think there’s
material for a new record."


Unfortunately that's about as clear as mud as far as what if anything the
Stones have planned for 2025. All we've learned is that Darryl is getting
his own band together for springtime, which i guess is less than encouraging
for the preponderance of fans who expected the Stones to be active in that
timeframe

It says he wants to get a band together "before and after the next Stones tour"...it's perfectly fine for Darryl to play some shows in like March and April and then tour Europe in June and July with the Stones like they did in 2022, no problem at all here, if anything, in this interview Darryl literally confirms the next Stones tour

Plus, as the rehearsals for this year's tour showed, Darryl doesn't even have to be present for the entire rehearsals, seeing how he was out sick for some time this March/April before the Stones started the US tour and this other guy jumped in instead (forgot his name but Bernard posted a pic with him)

The question is perhaps...Can they/have they come up with some tracks as pumpy, groovy, lovely, layered and playful as, say,  'Hot Stuff' and 'Luxury' from the Live On Elle Macpherson album or whatever it's called?  One awaits with bated trousers.

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 9^th, 2024 at 4:14am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 8:50am: ...i've recently praised Mick for letting us know with his signifying lyrics that most of his Hackney compositions are, just like with Satanic, slightly nasty jokes plus famous London legend Jimmy Fallon as master of ceremonies, plus this direct quote from Mick... "The songs on Hackney Diamonds, some are funny, some are a joke, some are tongue-in-cheek, and some are a little bit more serious."

...and the jokes just keep on coming


ThomasOliver wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

1st anniversary release of the original album plus the live album.  https://therollingstonesshop.co.uk/products/the-rolling-stones-hackney-diamonds-anniversary-edition

Rolling Stones turned down $20 million to
play 4 songs this past Saturday in Australia

(anyway so says the headline, while the text of the article seems
to indicate that $20 million was their asking price, and it was the
Aussies that balked)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13903321/Rock-legends-turned-20M-offer-headline-AFL-final-Katy-Perry-nabbed-5M-payday-sporting-spectacular.html

(there is a related story out there that says the FIFA World Cup
Final will for the first time feature a half-time show in 2026)

ThomasOliver wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

1st anniversary release of the original album plus the live album.  https://therollingstonesshop.co.uk/products/the-rolling-stones-hackney-diamonds-anniversary-edition

i think its fair to say that the preceding was received as a bitter disappointment
by Stones fans.  The equivalent of coal in our stockings for christmas...

but the Stones just tweeted something that has me thinking MAYBE...

tweeted the great song/vid from what i believe is regarded as the
best bonus disk ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQaio1aRmU

Hackney Diamonds Deluxe as our surprise for christmas?  I don't know
about y'all, but i've been a very good boy

I have a feeling that they either already are/or might soon start working some more on those new songs ;) idk if some release before Christmas is realistic but somewhen within the first 4 months of next year maybe...

And then followed up by the European tour, two guys on IORR who always seem to have inside knowledge about French shows basically confirmed a Paris date for 17th May yesterday, and there even might be a 2nd show added there...which I'd totally apprecciate, only travelling to a place once and getting 2 shows out of it is always the best option ;D plus I was told about the likely tour start date and place (a few days before that Paris date) by a friend who got the info from a friend working in the industry but I promised her not to share publically :-X

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 5:24am:

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c9/f1/r61bocLf_t.jpg

more recent Fallon Jagger content...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntneHPpZ6pc


(i enjoyed learning that she and their son Dev, unlike Mick, have fake
diamonds, glass diamonds, hackney diamonds inlaid into their incisors)

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 3:47am:

Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:14am: Rev 20 Redlights wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 8:50am: ...most of his Hackney compositions are, just like with Satanic, slightly nasty jokes plus Jimmy Fallon as master of ceremonies, plus the girly lenticular cover art,  plus this direct quote from Mick... "The songs on Hackney Diamonds, some are funny, some are a joke, some are tongue-in-cheek, and some are a little bit more serious." ...and the jokes just keep on coming ThomasOliver wrote on Sep 18th, 2024 at 12:10pm: 1st anniversary release of the original album plus the live album.  https://therollingstonesshop.co.uk/products/the-rolling-stones-hackney-diamonds-anniversary-edition

and now for only US$167, direct from Mick himself, you can secure your
very own very limited very repro "Palace Laundry" t-shirt !!!

https://www.mickjagger.com/products/palace-laundry-x-saint-luis-applique-t-shirt?variant=49100722438425

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7a/5a/LefjGOBY_t.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztKcmBoqrus

he's never done laundry a single day in his life the way he is handling that iron xD
Wonder how bad the sales for that shirt are going that he had to do this little vid as advertisement weeks after it was first published for sale and he posted about it before, but it's not surpdising, it's not only ugly but also expensive af, no wonder nobody wants it xD

https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7c/6b/hXQmMfiH_t.jpg

My two favorite IORRaqis have teamed up to shed some light

DandelionPowderman: I had a chat with Rocky Dijon yesterday. Here's
the news...

Geffen announced in late 2022 that The Stones moved to their roster
from Interscope. In November of this year, the Stones were moved from
Geffen to the reactivated A&M Records roster indicating a release is
expected in 2025... likely they'll aim for the Christmas market again.

So I'll utilize this small but significant piece of inside info to sharpen
my current forecast...

most of 2025, taking a break
late 2025, Hackney Diamonds Redux/Deluxe
2026, the Hackney Diamonds tour part 2


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/57/2e/JE3xNrae_t.jpg