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My grandmother always said, "Never show your money or your @$$ in public, otherwise someone is gonna want to take it!"

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Edith Grove wrote on Dec 17th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

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So you think I should have quoted the Post rather than the Times ?

Someone's gotta put up the opposing viewpoint, unless we want to give in to the socialist pigshit who absolutely want total control over our lives.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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President Donald Trump has been spotted on his West Palm Beach, Florida, golf course on Tuesday and Wednesday, despite his tweet saying he’d be “back to work in order to Make America Great Again” the day after Christmas.

According to pool reports, Trump arrived at the Trump International Golf Club just after 9 a.m. on both days.
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President Donald Trump has been spotted on his West Palm Beach, Florida, golf course on Tuesday and Wednesday, despite his tweet saying he’d be “back to work in order to Make America Great Again” the day after Christmas.

According to pool reports, Trump arrived at the Trump International Golf Club just after 9 a.m. on both days.



How many rounds of golf did Obama enjoy in his first eleven months of office ?

Regardless, I'm betting that much more meaningful business was accomplished with The Donald than what Mr. "line in the sand" could even comprehend.




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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Day after day, CNN’s team of political journalists have set up cameras on the same public road to catch glimpses of President Donald Trump hitting the links at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. But on Wednesday, a white box truck parked right in front of those cameras and blocked the news organization’s view.

While the Secret Service denied that the truck was intentionally placed to obstruct views of Trump, CNN’s Dan Merica pointed out the significance of the vehicle’s placement.

″The president and the White House have tried to obscure the fact that President Trump golfs on a regular basis,” Merica said. “This is a man who ran for president, who criticized President Barack Obama regularly for playing golf during his presidency, but that criticism hasn’t continued into the Trump presidency.”

Trump’s latest outing marked the 87th time he has visited one of his golf properties since taking office. It was also his 112th day staying at a Trump-owned property during his presidency, NBC News reported.
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Trump’s latest outing marked the 87th time he has visited one of his golf properties since taking office.



That's an average of EIGHT times per month. Gotta call FAKE NEWS on this one.
Why do we not hear about his use of AF1 for traveling to these eight-per-month Trump resorts?

Assuming I'm wrong, it could be a good thing since most any business leader will agree that some of the best deals are negotiated on the golf course.

So what was Obama's excuse for his incompetence considering the time he spent on the links?








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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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So what was Obama's excuse for his incompetence considering the time he spent on the links?


stay out of the pasture.
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Now here's a lesson in reality:






A century ago, colonists sought to create a utopian community in rural Vernon Parish


BY BEN MYERS | BMYERS@THEADVOCATE.COM  DEC 25, 2017



NEW LLANO — A little-known experiment in early 20th-century American socialism played out a century ago in this rural Vernon Parish community of 2,400, the memory of which is being kept alive at a tiny museum here.

The Llano Colony, which turned into one of the most enduring of socialist “utopian” communities formed in that era, got its start in sunny southern California in 1914. But three years later, a lack of water and other challenges drove its relocation to an abandoned lumber town in western Louisiana, on the edge of Leesville.

The colony was an initiative of a socialist movement hero who sought to validate his ideals in day-to-day practice. It eventually would meet its demise two decades later amid the throes of the Great Depression — the casualty of debt-driven expansion, authoritarian leadership and internecine rivalries. What had started as a socialist dream eventually ended in a nightmare of corporate mismanagement.

Along the way, though, hundreds of colonists worked at their chosen vocations, lived in quality homes, never wanted for food or health care and enjoyed a rich cultural life filled with music and dancing, according to researchers who have studied the colony. Their children even attended a Montessori-style school.

They made peanut butter and candy, brooms and baskets. They produced paint, fertilizer and artificial flavorings in a chemical laboratory. They owned a bakery, coffeehouse, butchery, general store and a print shop. They ran hotels, a swimming pool and a dance hall. They sold their wares via mail order and served their Vernon Parish neighbors, with whom they harmoniously coexisted.

None of the income went to colonists’ pockets. It all went to the Llano corporate entity, of which colonists owned equal shares. Those shares eventually became worthless, as court-appointed receivers foreclosed on Llano property. It was all sold for a song. Colonists who had dedicated their prime working years to the greater good eventually found themselves with nothing to show for it.

“In some ways, it is such a sad story, but there was so much tremendous vitality in that organization,” said filmmaker Beverly Lewis, whose 1994 documentary “American Utopia” and accompanying article in Louisiana Cultural Vistas focus extensively on the colony’s existence in this state.

'Most of them have never heard of it'


Much of what’s written about the colony focuses on its origins in the Antelope Valley outside Los Angeles, a site that is well-trafficked by archaeologists investigating the founding of the Llano Del Rio Cooperative Co. in 1914. But three years later, the colonists relocated to Vernon Parish, renamed their community New Llano and lived out their ideals for another generation.

The modern-day town of New Llano, along with the Vernon Parish Tourism Commission, opened the Museum of the New Llano Colony in 2013 to preserve history that even locals don’t seem to recall well, said John Crook, executive director of the tourism commission.

“In a lot of places, local people don’t pay too much attention to what’s there. We are trying to change that,” Crook said.

The museum’s displays are mostly contained within one room in the back of the old City Hall building, and Crook said expansions with multimedia demonstrations are planned over the next couple years. New Llano celebrated the 100th anniversary of the arrival of its namesake colony with a two-day festival in June, but it’s unlikely the revelers included anyone directly connected to the history they celebrated.

That wasn’t the case with an 80th anniversary celebration of a different sort — more of a reunion than a community affair — that lifelong Leesville resident Martha Palmer organized. Palmer, 88, who is regarded as a local historian, grew up alongside kids who lived in the colony. In 1997, Palmer managed to corral some of her old friends from five different states for a homecoming. They all had a good time, Palmer said, and she floated the idea of a 90th anniversary gathering before they parted.

“They all said ‘Martha, I’m too old, I live in California, I live in Oregon, I live in Seattle. I just don’t think I’ll be able in 10 years to make another trip,’ ” Palmer recalled.

Today, the museum attracts mostly academics and other niche researchers, said Mary Ann Fussell, the museum director. They occasionally stop at stores and ask locals for information, Fussell said, and are met with blank stares.

“Most of them have never heard of it,” she said.

In the beginning


Intrigue surrounding the colony’s founder, lawyer and charismatic socialist politician Job Harriman, is part of the reason Llano’s Louisiana years are often treated as an anecdote.

Harriman ran alongside Eugene Debs in the 1900 presidential election, but his best chance at winning political office came in the 1911 Los Angeles mayoral election. Harriman won a plurality of the primary vote, but at the same time, he was working under Clarence Darrow on the legal defense of James McNamara, a union activist who pleaded guilty to dynamiting the Los Angeles Times building and killing 21 people.

McNamara’s confession was read in open court, a few days before the general election. Harriman’s electoral hopes flopped.

“That’s when he realized, 'You know what, socialism will not win at the ballot box. Let’s see if we can set up an example of making it work,' ” said Lewis, who produced “American Utopia” with her then-husband, Rick Blackwood.

The result was The Llano del Rio Cooperative Co., situated in the Mojave Desert outside Los Angeles. Members paid hefty fees to join and worked eight-hour days in a variety of industries, in exchange for quality homes, sufficient food and clothing, free health and child care, and whatever else was needed to live.

For a variety of reasons, however, the colonists picked up and moved to an abandoned lumber town in Vernon Parish. The Llano del Rio Cooperative Co. bought 20,000 acres from the Gulf Anderson Lumber Co., and the newly christened New Llano colony consisted of nearly 30 residential, commercial and industrial properties — among them a saw mill, nursing home and filling station, to name only a few examples. At its height, the colony boasted as many as 1,000 members.

Harriman, the colony’s elected president, wasn’t among them for long. The Louisiana climate wasn’t conducive to Harriman’s tuberculosis, and he spent most of the first few years seeking treatment elsewhere. It wasn’t long before he was back in California permanently, and his vice president lasted only a couple years at the helm. The leadership vacuum opened the door for a different sort of leader.

Rise of a strongman


New Llano’s early years looked bleak with Harriman out of the picture. Then came George Pickett, who, after effectively running New Llano operations for about five years, was formally elected general manager and president upon Harriman’s death in 1925. He would rule New Llano for the next decade, until a May Day coup of sorts in 1935, as the colony was breaking apart.

Pickett was the inverse of the ideologically pure Harriman, who adhered to strict democratic governance. Pickett, on the other hand, bulldozed opposition to get done what he wanted to get done, in the traditional mold of a Chicago mayor.

“It went against everything they really kind of stood for,” said Fussell, the museum director. “On the face of it, he did hold meetings. They did hold elections. But somehow he always arranged it so he would get what he wanted out of it.”

But if Pickett’s governance offended some colonists’ sensibilities, others appreciated his effectiveness, Fussell said. He was undoubtedly a bully, but his quick decision-making kept New Llano humming in a way that Harriman never could. Harriman, Fussell said, “may have been too democratic at times” back in the early years in California.

“Sometimes their board meetings would go all night, because everybody got to say everything they wanted to say,” Fussell said. “There was even at one time a wheat crop that was never harvested because nobody could make the decision to go out and harvest it.”

An exclusive colony


Exactly what drove the West Coast idealists to relocate to rural Louisiana isn’t exactly clear, but water challenges in the Mojave Desert are frequently cited.

“An earthquake fault diverted much of the water the colony had counted on for growth. Surrounding land barons refused to sell water to the colony,” a McNeese State University historical abstract states.

That refusal may have stemmed from what Lewis says was an underlying motivation for departure: social and political pressure, driven in part by Harrison Gray Otis, the anti-union owner of the Los Angeles Times.

“The California colony had big power lined up against them,” Lewis said. “At a certain point, the writing was on the wall; it was just not tenable to stay.”

In any case, the migrating colonists found a sympathetic local population in Vernon Parish and surrounding areas, where the Industrial Workers of the World had organized lumber workers. DeRidder is one of the few places where striking workers managed to fight off attacks by lumber barons during a multistate revolt in 1907, according to Facing South, the online magazine of the Institute for Southern Studies. DeRidder went on to elect a socialist mayor in 1912.

Despite the natural symbiosis, there was one point of apparent difference with the local Industrial Workers of the World strikers: racial unity. Southern labor leaders intentionally fostered solidarity among Caucasian, African-American and Native American workers, according to Facing South. The colony, on the other hand, was whites only, according to a San Bernardino Arts Council exhibit.

Lewis said she encountered a letter illustrating the colony’s racial and ethnic exclusivity while researching her documentary. The letter, written by a colonist, appeared to respond to an outside inquiry concerning who was allowed, she said. The respondent said the colony had “enough people of the Jewish persuasion,” Wilson said, reciting the letter from memory, “and just so you know, we don’t accept Negroids or Mongoloids.”

'Pretty close to hell'


For a few years, it all worked under Pickett’s strongman leadership. He traveled relentlessly, drumming up donations and new members. There were dances, theatrical productions, comedy routines, concerts and other entertainment, attended by colonists and outsiders alike. People streamed in from around the world to be part of New Llano.

Palmer, the lifelong Leesville resident, remembers New Llano as a friendly, joyful place.

“They just were friends. I came to birthday parties here,” Palmer said during a visit to the Museum of the New Llano Colony, “and they came to my birthday party.”

Pickett pushed an expansion agenda, and soon the colony had acquired a sugar plantation downstate, a fruit orchard in Texas, a ranch in New Mexico. Colonists were sent to work at these off-site locations, sometimes despite their objections. He financed these acquisitions with debt, even though New Llano had never paid off the train it chartered to move to Louisiana.

New Llano struggled to keep up with its bank notes. The stock market crashed. Colonists grew impoverished and turned on one another.

“When you see your economic stability eroding away, it gets real personal, fast,” Lewis said.

Colonists began to trickle out, leaving the industries understaffed. To fill the ranks, Pickett began accepting new colonists who couldn’t pay the membership fee. This only further turned older colonists against Pickett, who was a divisive figure from the start. “Brush gangs” — so named because of their secret meetings in the brushes — plotted against Pickett.

Finally, on May 1, 1935, Pickett’s nemeses elected a new board and general manager while Pickett was off-site. Pickett fought the move, but Vernon Parish courts refused to recognize the authority of either the new or the old boards, according to Fussell. New Llano declared bankruptcy in the next year, and a court-appointed receiver sold off all the properties in 1939 for a few thousand dollars.

“The colony assets were so grossly undervalued and undersold at the receiver’s sale in 1939 that lawsuits ensued over the next 40 years,” Lewis and Blackwood wrote in their Louisiana Cultural Vistas article.

The ever-determined Pickett stuck around, living alone in a hut on the New Llano site, according to the 1988 book “Two Hundred Years of American Communes” by Yaacov Oved. Pickett suffered in those years, as evidenced by letters to his attorney that Palmer brought to her recent visit to the museum.

“I have held the fort for a long time, all alone,” Pickett wrote. “It’s been pretty close to hell.”



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" Two Presidencies in One Year "


" We have spent year one with Trump of Twitter and Trump of accomplishments.  "



By Daniel Henninger



" There is really only one question anyone asks today: What do you think of it? “It,” of course, being America’s presidency. Needless to say, one presidency wasn’t going to be enough for Donald Trump. In true Trumpian style, the New York developer has produced two presidencies in one year.

The two Trump presidencies exist as parallel universes. One is inhabited by Trump of Twitter, a character out of Rabelais’s novel “The Very Horrific Life of Great Gargantua.” Much of the American population is appalled by Trump of Twitter, who lives in a dark and deeply personal pool of feuds and fulminations. His first-year approval rating floated below 40%, while voters in Virginia and Alabama rejected his candidates, and him.

Existing alongside is a universe of solid, tangible economic success. Reporting on the season’s strong holiday retail sales, this newspaper noted that consumer confidence is at a 17-year high, with unemployment at a 17-year low—a time-frame that turns the Obama presidency into a forgotten memory.

Donald Trump entered office revved up from his victorious campaigns against Hillary Clinton, all Republican comers—and pretty much the whole wide world. It was us versus them, and “us” won.

On Jan. 20, President Trump delivered an us-versus-them inaugural speech. Later that day he declared war on the White House press.

No one should ever forget that Mr. Trump has been a career kibitzer, a nonstop source of often annoying opinion about everything. In real life you can say “enough already.” But Twitter allowed the formerly private Trump kibitzing to go mass market. On social media, nobody ever shuts up.

An atmosphere of eternal Trumpian battle and mayhem dominated the early period of the presidency. Simultaneously, however, Mr. Trump was making stellar, quality appointments to his cabinet and key White House policy roles, but it was hard amid the din to focus on them or their goals.

The White House instead came to be defined by the Bannon-Scaramucci-Priebus battles, by tales of Ivanka and Jared, and the daily bear-baitings with Sean Spicer.

For six months, Trump courtiers leaked self-destructively to a hostile press, and Mr. Trump looked less like a president than the ringleader of a traveling carnival.

It couldn’t go on, and it didn’t. In July, Mr. Trump named retired four-star Marine Gen. John Kelly as his chief of staff.

Until the Kelly appointment in July, the entire Trump government had operated in a state of constant distraction. It looked like failure. The attempt at ObamaCare reform, an attempt to legislate amid impossible tumult, was failure when three Senate Republicans voted against the bill in late July.

Mr. Kelly, who has worked in worse conditions, famously imposed discipline on the White House, but military discipline isn’t an end in itself. It exists to attain one goal: success. The relative calm Mr. Kelly’s discipline brought to the White House has allowed the successes of the parallel Trump presidency to come into focus.


This is the presidency of people Mr. Trump appointed to his government, who amid the Twitter and Mueller diversions went to work every day and executed serious policy goals: EPA’s Scott Pruitt, Betsy DeVos at Education, Interior’s Ryan Zinke, Scott Gottlieb at FDA. Add the judicial appointments. It’s a long list of accomplishment.

In the fall, Chief White House economist Kevin Hassett emerged to provide important justifications for the tax bill’s rate reductions. Less publicly, Gary Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs banker who became director of the National Economic Council amid much skepticism, has turned out to be the most ardent Democratic deregulator since Alfred Kahn was advising Jimmy Carter on getting the government out of the airline, shipping and trucking industries. (The Reagan economy reaped the benefit of this head start.)

The Democrats, who are overinvested in predicting national failure, and the media, overinvested in the Russian collusion story, will try to taunt Mr. Trump into reviving the cage-match atmospherics of the year’s first half.

It wouldn’t be the dumbest strategy, especially if Mr. Trump starts the year shooting at his own robust economy by starting trade disputes with Mexico, Canada, Japan, South Korea and China. But if Mr. Trump doesn’t rise to the bait, the Democrats’ carping will eventually look petulant and unattractive. Most Americans don’t want their presidency to fail utterly, but that looks increasingly to be what the party’s progressive factions are about.

For the moment, a correlation appears to exist between success and Donald Trump’s sense of calm. Yes, he still tweets, but with less unnerving animosity (as we go to press). Possibly over time, Mr. Trump will unify his two presidencies into a single venture. At year’s end, this is how a successful government is supposed to look. "






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Might be a good idea not to get your news from a right wing rag.



So you think I should have quoted the Post rather than the Times ?

Someone's gotta put up the opposing viewpoint, unless we want to give in to the socialist pigshit who absolutely want total control over our lives.


You mean socialist pigshit like Trump? You finally called something right.
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Who cares how much Trump golfs. With a club in his hand at least he can't tweet. The most annoying part of his presidency.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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mojoman wrote on Jan 3rd, 2018 at 4:38pm:
"North Korea accidentally hit one of its own cities with a missile, report says"


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Reply #2496 - Jan 4th, 2018 at 10:09pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Jan 2nd, 2018 at 8:03am:
Who cares how much Trump golfs. With a club in his hand at least he can't tweet. The most annoying part of his presidency.



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https://www.wsj.com/articles/make-iran-great-again-1515025470



" Make Iran Great Again "

" Like Barack Obama, Iran’s leaders don’t know how a real economy works.  "



By Daniel Henninger




" Iran erupted last Thursday. By Friday, the protests against the government, which began in Mashhad near the Afghan border, had spread to dozens of cities. So when we traveled on Saturday to a movie theater on Manhattan’s Lower East Side to see “Darkest Hour,” Gary Oldman’s portrayal of Winston Churchill, imagine the jarring dislocation when the theater’s previews included a trailer for an admiring documentary of Barack Obama’s foreign-policy making, “The Final Year.”

The preview screen filled with expressions of earnest intent from Mr. Obama, Susan Rice, Samantha Power, Ben Rhodes and the Iran nuclear deal’s handmaiden, John Kerry. About 100 minutes later, we were watching Churchill shout at his war cabinet that you cannot do deals with dictators. That would have been about the time this weekend that protesters in Iran were shouting “Death to Khamenei !” It’s nice to see the Iranian people have a sense of humor.

Producing the past week’s protests against the Iranian regime was not the goal of the six-party Iran nuclear deal. Back then, the Khamenei-Rouhani regime was represented as America’s partner in a good cause. Now the governments of the U.S., U.K., France and Germany (Russia is a Khamenei ally, and China only supports crackdowns) have to decide whether their Iranian partner is the people in the streets or the government that is shooting them.

In the preview of “The Final Year,” the Obama team members convey confidence in the rightness of everything they did. But as we learned in November 2016, there was one big thing the Obama people never understood: how a real economy works. By real economy, I mean the private economy, not the economy of public spending.


A central element of the nuclear deal was that it would “help” the Iranian people by lifting sanctions and injecting $100 billion of unfrozen assets into Iran’s economy. This was much the same economic theory behind the Obama administration’s 2009 injection of $832 billion into the U.S. economy. Both flopped because both made the real economy essentially a bystander to state guidance.

The Obama $832 billion went up the government’s fireplace flue. The Iranian $100 billion went into ballistic missile production and for Iran’s proxies in Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and the Gaza Strip.

The moment has arrived for invidious comparisons.

Donald Trump is president because the Obama-Clinton Democrats forgot about hard-pressed voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. The Khamenei-Rouhani regime is under assault because working-class Iranians began this week’s revolt in cities beyond the capital.

Come to think of it, isn’t that disconnect between the people running governments and the people trying to make a living in the real economy the core reason behind the world-wide burst of populism?

It’s the reason France’s working-class voters and young, underemployed college graduates sent Emmanuel Macron and a heretofore nonexistent party into the French presidency. It’s the reason working-class Brits lunged for Brexit. This new global reality—perform or get shoved aside—is the reason Saudi Arabia’s Prince Mohammed bin Salman imposed reforms.

The Iranians shouting, “Leave Syria, think of us!” are the West Virginia coal miners shouting, “Make America Great Again.” That’s not yahooism. It is anxiety directed at incumbent elites who tell the public that reduced levels of economic growth are the new normal. The world’s populations will not accept that.

Iran—like North Korea—has taken its best and brightest and stuck them inside a mountain to build atomic bombs, leaving the economy in the hands of Brussels-grade technocrats.

Besides calling for higher taxes in its recent budget, even as prices have spiked for basic foodstuff, Hassan Rouhani’s government has pursued import-substitution policies by imposing high tariffs on many imported goods. Needless to say, Iranians can’t get the clothing, appliances and electronics they want.

To combat a massive cellphone-smuggling operation, Iran recently slapped a 5% duty on them atop the 9% value-added tax and required registration with Iran’s telecom user database. Now, millions of smuggled phones will make it harder for the ayatollahs to kill texting among protesters. The bazaar may prove stronger than the theocracy.

A theme now emerging in Western media is that if Europe’s leaders support President Trump’s “aggressive” posture toward Tehran, that will undermine both the sanctified Obama nuclear deal and support for “liberals” in the Rouhani government. This is where we came in, watching Winston Churchill convince a timid British establishment that an outward-moving dictatorship won’t stop at anyone’s border.

The moment has arrived to admit that Iran’s missiles, nuclear technology and armies won’t stay inside its borders until the people getting shot in the streets are recognized and supported by a too-timid world. "


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Actually, that videogame is charming. Now, where's the wall?  There's no wall.
A disappointment for all the white supremacists in 'Amerikkka'.

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Reply #2498 - Jan 5th, 2018 at 1:45pm
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MrPleasant wrote on Jan 5th, 2018 at 1:33pm:
There's no wall. We want the wall.



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