Charlie impresionado con un baterista australiano de 11 años

[Gerardo]

Charlie se queda boquiabierto con un baterista de 11 años
November 13, 2014
Peter Vincent
National Music Editor




The Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts with fan Jagger Alexander-Erber, who gifted his rock idol with a cymbal once owned by Jackie Dougan.


No-one gets near the Rolling Stones, still one of the world's hottest (and most protected) bands 50 years on. No-one except a precocious 11-year-old Sydney boy called Jagger, who calls the band's drummer, Charlie Watts, his mentor.

Jagger Alexander-Erber is the Australian drumming prodigy first seen on Australia's Got Talent in 2012, and he has three drumming heroes: The Who's Keith Moon, Led Zepplin's John Bonham and Watts.

He just kept saying 'Jackie Dougan! Jackie Dougan' over and over. He was surprised, his eyes were really wide open and he said 'How did you get this? It's amazing'

On Wednesday he managed to leave speechless the only one of those three drumming legends still living, before the Rolling Stones wowed Sydney at Allphones Arena.



Jagger Alexander-Erber onstage at the Rolling Stones concert at Sydney's Allphones Arena on Wednesday night.


He gave Watts, 73, a gift, a rare cymbal - once owned by Watts' own hero, Jackie Dougan. He was repaid by being allowed to sit for photos at Watt's 1963 Gretsch drum kit in front of a packed Allphones Arena minutes before the Stones four-star show began. Watts told Jagger the only other people allowed to sit there were his grandchildren.

Jagger wasn't permitted to play the kit and didn't because he didn't want to annoy Watts' security guard or Watts himself - a quiet man with a legendary reputation. Watts is rumoured to have once punched Mick Jagger in the face for suggesting Watts was "my f---ing drummer".

"I was tempted [to play], I had the sticks in my hand sitting at the kit and I thought 'why not?' But the drum tech said 'do not play it!'"



Jagger Alexander-Erber, with Mick Jagger after whom he was named and Charlie Watts at their LA gig in 2012.


Jagger says Watts looked amazed by the gift. "He just kept saying 'Jackie Dougan! Jackie Dougan' over and over. He was surprised, his eyes were really wide open and he said 'How did you get this? It's amazing'."

Jagger, who was named after Rolling Stones' frontman Mick Jagger, has been invited backstage with the Stones before at the Staples Centre in Los Angeles last year, when he also met Kiss and Motley Crue. Watts saw a segment on Jagger on an American television network, AXS, and the Stones' camp tracked down Jagger's father, Mark Alexander-Erber.

"The best thing is Jagger will now have Charlie Watts as a mentor. The connection he made was incredible … [although] Charlie doesn't have a phone or use email. [My son] is now known to the Stones camp. Keith Richards walked past and patted him on the shoulder and said 'G'day Jagger," Mr Alexander-Erber said.

How will Jagger cope with the relative boredom of school on Thursday after his brush with rock royalty? "I got to bed about 11.30pm. I'm tired. Tell dad I need a day off school."

Jagger studies music at The McDonald College, North Strathfield - and last week was awarded a junior scholarship, which reduces his tuition fees.

What will he say to his classmates? "My mates at school are not really into Rolling Stones at all, they are into that pop rubbish.

"If they ask I'll say it was an amazing night and we got to meet one of the most famous drummers in the world."

Jagger is these days a fast-rising star himself. He has a Facebook page with 66,000 likes and his YouTube videos have been watched hundreds of thousands of times. He has appeared with several rock bands - including Limp Bizkit and Rose Tattoo,  - and will join the Choirboys on stage at the Cherry Bar in Melbourne on Saturday night.

Jagger's band, Moon, also has a song out called Sidewinder, and it plans to release an album in February - in time for Jagger's 12th birthday.

[cantorodao]

"My mates at school are not really into Rolling Stones at all, they are into that pop rubbish", dios mío QUE GRANDE ES ESTE CHICO!!!

Y va al concierto con una camiseta de los Zeppelin y a conocer a Jagger con otra de los Who, lo de este chico no es la diplomacia, jajajaja, qué grande

[Gerardo]

jaja así es, bueno al menos escogió muuuuuy buenos bateristas, John Bonham y Keith Moon... Mucha gente decía en los viejos tiempos que ambos encajaban más en los Stones que Charlie

 

[juancho]

jaja así es, bueno al menos escogió muuuuuy buenos bateristas, John Bonham y Keith Moon... Mucha gente decía en los viejos tiempos que ambos encajaban más en los Stones que Charlie

      Nunca lo había escuchado.
Por favor Bonham era un bruto salvaje y Moon un demente, por favor no me toquen a Charlie que es más stone que Mick y Keith juntos

[Gerardo]

Mi estimadísimo Juancho, difiero un poco, antes aclaro que para mí Charlie es tan especial que cuando pongo un header de él en Rocks Off, le cambio el nombre a "ROCKS OFF - The Charlie Watts Message Board" y desde luego lo considero un baterista muy preciso, muy bueno y aunque poco espectacular es el que por años ha facilitado MUCHO a los Rolling Stones tocar en vivo gracias a lo bien que lo hace

Sin embargo no es nada "Rolling Stone" desde sus inicios, hay que recordar el el término "Rolling Stone" existe desde antes de los Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan y Muddy Waters, no se sabe desde cuando surge la definición pero incluso es anterior al proverbio antiguo "A Rolling Stone gathers no moss" así que debe tener unos 200 años de uso

La definición de puede encontrar en cualquier diccionario bueno en inglés, la que da el muy respetado diccionario Webster dice

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rolling%20stone

"a person who changes his habitation, business, or pursuits with great frequency :  one who leads a wandering or unsettled life " algo así como "una persona que cambia su casa, trabajo o actividades con gran frecuencia: uno que lleva una vida errante o inestable"

Charlie está por cumplir 52 años con los Rolling Stones, acaba de cumplir 50 años de casado con su única esposa, cuando los Stones visitaron la mansión de Play Boy, Charlie se fue a jugar a las maquinitas, incluso llevó a su esposa, vive en la misma ciudad por no sé cuánto tiempo...

Así que decir que es muy Rolling Stone no es cierto, por eso se decía que Keith Moon o John Bonham encajaban mucho más en la banda en cuanto a la personalidad

Charlie no hace solos de batería con los Stones, Keith y John hacían solos sofisticados

[juancho]

Jajaja, entiendo tu punto Gerardo, es que no me entendiste bien a lo que me refería.
No me refiero al término literal "Rolling Stone", me refiero a que lo tengo tan incorporado a Charlie en la banda que me es completamente imposible imaginarme a otro tras sus tambores, y tampoco quiero hacerlo, a eso me refería con que es más rolling Stone que Mick y Keith, era una  manera de decir que es Rolling Stone hasta la médula.
Y ojo que me fascinan tanto Bonzo como Moon, tanto ellos como sus bandas, eso no se discute, un abrazo 

[Gerardo]

En honor a Gonzo!

[Gerardo]

y ahora Keith

[cantorodao]

Qué buena discusión, Watts, Moon, Bonham, para mi el póker de ases a las baquetas lo completa Mitch Mitchell, el baterista que era capaz de darle réplica a Hendrix, eso sí, no me imagino a ninguno de los tres en los Stones, no los veo. Sobre todo no me imagino a Bonham ni a Moon haciendo solos, yo creo que Keith Richards les patería el culo si se les ocurriese liarla de esa manera, a ver, con los egos de Mick y del pirata, un tercero en esa onda hubiese sido una guerra mayor.