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Reply #50 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:11pm
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WIKIPEDIA:
Waiting for Ro-Sto is a play by Irish playwright Samuel Beckett in which two
IORRaqi super fans, Vladimir and Estragon, sit on a park bench and discuss
Ro-Sto's rumoured European tour. The stage repeatedly darkens to mark the
passing of days and weeks.

According to the NY Times, Waiting for Ro-Sto "has achieved a theoretical
impossibility – a play in which nothing happens, but which keeps audiences
glued to their seats".


(we join our characters in mid conversation)

ESTRAGON: An Austrian date at the Happel Stadium is also about to be signed.

VLADIMIR: I envisage Wembley Stadium, with a show in the north of England,
plus Cardiff and, say, Glasgow.

ESTRAGON: The European leg of the Hackney Diamonds Tour is practically a done
deal, as is practically a done deal the only Italian stop at the Stadio Olimpico
in Rome, scheduled for the last week of May

VLADIMIR: The announcement will be coming in the next few weeks.

ESTRAGON: My reliable source confirms that there will be a european tour in
2025. Contracts are about to be signed very soon. That's all I'm allowed to
share at this point.

VLADIMIR: I'm calling it that the tour will be announced by mid December.

ESTRAGON: The biggest rock band in the world will play two shows in Germany
next year, in Berlin and in Munich.

VLADIMIR: They will be announcing the tour the first week of January.

ESTRAGON: All will be revealed in a few short weeks.

VLADIMIR: Tomorow...

ESTRAGON: Barcelona is in. London is in. Amsterdam is in. Madrid is in.
Paris is in.

VLADIMIR: Madrid is out.

ESTRAGON: I would expect a Swiss show.

VLADIMIR: Barcelona around May 21 thanks to StonesDoug talking about spending
his birthday there next year.

ESTRAGON: Paris on 17th May Stade de France. It might be the opening night

VLADIMIR: According to reliable sources there are plans for a 14-gig-tour
between May and September 2025

ESTRAGON: BV will only post rumours on the main page a few weeks before the
official announcement.

VLADIMIR: Zagreb in mid August

ESTRAGON: Vienna or even Spielberg are in their sights again.

VLADIMIR: Helsinki is still in play.

ESTRAGON: Paris is rumoured for July 1st at Hippodrome Langchamp

VLADIMIR: Italian press confirms Rome 29 May

ESTRAGON: OKAY something is going on?? This topic is STICKY again!

VLADIMIR: Today I went from checking this thread every day for months to every
hour.

VLADIMIR: The actual date for Rome 20 May

ESTRAGON: My bet is on barcelona for 20/21 may

VLADIMIR: Ullevi is being talked about as a possibility for Sweden

ESTRAGON: An announcement of the tour is expected within the next few weeks.

VLADIMIR: Copenhagen added to the list.

ESTRAGON: BV updated the tour list 5-6 times today.

VLADIMIR: Two shows in Vienna, and one in Bucharest

ESTRAGON: Munich July 12th is solid

VLADIMIR: The latest reports in Spain are saying tour start in Barcelona, with
two maybe three shows

ESTRAGON: Rome date now removed by bv

VLADIMIR: The ROLLING STONES will play in SEVILLE

ESTRAGON: According to OE24, the Stones booked the Ernst Happel stadium
from August 10-12, but BV writes it for July.

VLADIMIR: Zurich has entered the chat as well.

ESTRAGON: The more of the tour schedule that appears, the less it makes sense...

VLADIMIR: Vienna removed

ESTRAGON: 2nd amsterdam show added

VLADIMIR: Do you mean Barcelona will not happen at all?

ESTRAGON: I have been working for months with research on the Tour 2025.
Then some people just steal all my posted data. I will have the names of
those who posted without shame.

VLADIMIR: The way people act is very disturbing, yet many of us still give and
continue to give. I hope we will continue to see your input and i hope we will
have justice in both our circumstances.

ESTRAGON: Most likely 95% of the audience won't even realize that Paris could
be the last Stones show (and some 35% might even be surprised that they are
still alive)

VLADIMIR: Most Parisians leaving by the 14th of July. Moreover,the financials
would not be at Stones standard. Last gig in Paris was low in terms of both
audience and income.

ESTRAGON: My guess would be a 3rd concert in Germany. Unless Marseille or Lyon.

VLADIMIR: They could still play Vienna before Paris

ESTRAGON: Pretty sure we have the best info

VLADIMIR: Rod Stewart's daughter commented on Instagram that the Faces might
make a Glastonbury reunion, which if accurate would mean Ronnie would require
29 June off.

ESTRAGON: There is space for at least two more shows, maybe Vienna or Bucharest
before Berlin

VLADIMIR: Rolling Stones will return to London for four huge gigs

ESTRAGON: Cardiff , Dublin and Edinburgh might be back in the mix

VLADIMIR: She said her husband worked somewhere and had inside info. According
to her Cardiff and Glascow would also have multiple shows.

ESTRAGON: Reliable sources say there will be 14 shows only; if one show is added,
then another show will have to go.

VLADIMIR: Sat 5 July cannot be correct for Berlin. The city doesn‘t allow
for events at Waldbühne and Olympiastadion at the same time.

ESTRAGON: We'll start getting teasers about 2 weeks before they announce the
tour. Signs on a bus or stadium and such.

VLADIMIR: The Stones posted a picture of Vienna. I believe in Vienna.

ESTRAGON: For Berlin: Reichstag Platz (?) In the 80's, Bowie and M. Jackson
played there

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Reply #51 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:44pm
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I almost died reading this 🤣🙈 also they are at literally 64 pages in the tour rumours thread by now and it's truly getting ridiculous...the way they are bending over backwards and twisting their necks in order to find a plausible explanation to SOMEHOW make the unrealistic dates that Bjornulf threw out there work

Why the fuck would they HAVE to play in Berlin on the 5th of July if it's literally entirely implausible?? They'd rather believe that there is a show in front of the Brandenburger Tor on the 5th instead of just thinking about the FAR more realistic possibility that the show will just be on the 4th or the 8th instead...fucking ridiculous

Same goes for Barcelona...I almost choked laughing earlier when Bjornulf honestly asked whether it's possible to play a show on the 10th, then de-construct the stage, play football on the 11th and then re-construct the stage for the 2nd gig...no of course it's not fucking possible, Barca doesn't want their lawn all ruined for the clasico 🙈🙈 maybe just accept the most logical option here which is that there won't be 2 Barcelona shows, instead of coming up with "solutions" that make one think you're tripping xD

The only way I see one show in Barcelona happening (as long as Camp Nou isn't available) is if the tour is starting in Lisbon or Sevilla on the 16th or 17th and then they play Barcelona on the 20th or 21st or even the 24th or 25th, seeing how the stadium only is available after the 18th...
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Reply #52 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:27pm
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Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:14am:
Ronny has his home in BCN  still doesn't he?
How nice to play in your own backyard

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:49am:
Last year they also played in NJ, LA and Chicago with 3 days in between and Mick and Keith have places in NYC as far as I've heard so that's not really an argument...


My comments were not meant to be any kind of argument.
I offer no insight or evidence what-so-ever.
I do not pretend, nor would I pose to have any insight on what/where/when they play.

I was simply recalling Ronny has a place in BCN  so his family would be comfortable, regardless of dates, venues, etc

I just want to be able to take a non-stop flt  to 2 cities/shows from Raleigh or Charlotte...
take my family with me  regardless if they go to the shows or not (extra LD !!), oh yeah...and only if I can get LDs too.
I will only know (like you) what the deal is once something is, if it is ever,  announced.



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Reply #53 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 6:38pm
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ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 2:44pm:
they are at literally 64 pages in the tour rumours thread by now and it's truly getting ridiculous...


...and we're only halfway home

The 2023 Fake Tour campaign ran for over a year and totaled 123 pages

123 pages of brilliant "misdirection marketing" for Hackney Diamonds.

...and now more of the same for Redux


"Quite simply, Misdirection Marketing is planned 'snafus' that get customers
or an audience to engage with the content in error."

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Magic, Misdirection and Marketing

It’s funny the things we pay for. Normally we hate it when people lie to
us or trick us. It kills trust and leaves us feeling like chumps.

But comedians lie all the time because it’s part of the craft.

As for magicians, even the honesty is part of a calculated attempt to trick us.

A stage magician lies to us and our senses. They use misdirection to make us
look left when we should be looking right.

And we love them for it.

Content marketing is similar, in a way. People read your writing (or watch
your video, or listen to your music…) and it seems like you’re doing nothing
but offering value.

You’re being informative, entertaining or, ideally, both.

And then comes the misdirect - you’re actually selling to them.

But that’s okay - like magic, it’s honest dishonesty. The audience knows
what they’re getting themselves into - and they’re even excited to be deceived.



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Reply #54 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:56pm
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Reply #55 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 1:09am
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Reply #56 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 1:34am
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Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 3:27pm:
Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:14am:
Ronny has his home in BCN  still doesn't he?
How nice to play in your own backyard

ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:49am:
Last year they also played in NJ, LA and Chicago with 3 days in between and Mick and Keith have places in NYC as far as I've heard so that's not really an argument...


My comments were not meant to be any kind of argument.
I offer no insight or evidence what-so-ever.
I do not pretend, nor would I pose to have any insight on what/where/when they play.

I was simply recalling Ronny has a place in BCN  so his family would be comfortable, regardless of dates, venues, etc

I just want to be able to take a non-stop flt  to 2 cities/shows from Raleigh or Charlotte...
take my family with me  regardless if they go to the shows or not (extra LD !!), oh yeah...and only if I can get LDs too.
I will only know (like you) what the deal is once something is, if it is ever,  announced.





Sorry I just realised that "argument" might have been the faux English-German expression^^ bottom line is you're obviously correct about us just having to wait until the official announcement so we'll finally know for sure, hopefully soon 🙏🏻

I just find it kinda peculiar that despite there being some open ends here, Bjornulf already created the city specific tour threads, although in the past years he only always did this after the tour was officially announced...now people over there seem to expect that the announcement will come next week, but honestly, even if I wish so, cause German railways has super cheap train tickets available until the 28th (another reason why I'm so bummed that the Berlin date is utterly unreliable), I sadly doubt we'll get any kind of announcement THAT soon...maybe in 2 weeks, but if things continue to be so odd especially with the Barcelona dates, then probably rather in 3 weeks...there also haven't been any sightings of tour posters yet in the rumoured cities, at least not that I heard of...
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Reply #57 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 7:54am
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As has already been said, no way will the Barca v RM game and the Stones gig be so close together.

It would be a logistical nightmare
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Reply #58 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 8:19am
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The very first thing I heard about Barcelona a few months ago was a show on the 12th, and imo if it's just this one show, it would make total sense...if Barca-Real is on the 10th, then they could play there on the 12th, or maybe 13th, but only one show, seeing how Barca needs the stadium again on the 18th....that's why ever since there suddenly were rumours of 2 Barcelona shows, I found this VERY unbelievable...also because of not enough buying power in Spain, especially if there is supposed to be a show in Sevilla too

Or maybe there will be 2 Barcelona shows but one of them is in a tiny club for a billionaire LOL
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Reply #59 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 1:20pm
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Sorry I just realised that "argument" might have been the faux English-German expression

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Barca are looking to move venue according to this and the article states there is a RS gig scheduled for the same week.

Maybe there us something to it or is this report just speculation?

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-barcelona-considering-moving-laliga-c...
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I really really need the boys to announce something soon so I can plan my much needed vacation.
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Reply #62 - Jan 25th, 2025 at 4:02am
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ThomasOliver wrote on Jan 24th, 2025 at 2:15pm:
Barca are looking to move venue according to this and the article states there is a RS gig scheduled for the same week.

Maybe there us something to it or is this report just speculation?

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-barcelona-considering-moving-laliga-c...



Idk how trustworthy this particular paper is, but even if they can find an agreement and have the clasico take place at some other stadium, that wouldn't change the fact that Barca still has another game against Villareal on the 18th, so playing in the stadium on the 15th or 16th for the 2nd gig might be too close to the game and the lawn would still be ruined...

I think during the course of the 2022 tour I read somewhere that most football clubs want at least a week between a match and a show because of the lawn, idk if it applies to Barca as well, but overall I still think 2 shows in Barcelona are highly unlikely, unless they switch the dates around and the shows will be between the 20th and 25h May, starting off in Lisbon and Sevilla instead, because after the 18th May there is no football to take into account anymore
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👍🏻👍🏻

so...when do y'all think we'll get the announcement? Maybe on 3rd/4th February already or the week after? I don't think next week already, seeing how there are too many unanswered questions and there wasn't any promo yet...
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👍🏻👍🏻

so...when do y'all think we'll get the announcement? Maybe on 3rd/4th February already or the week after? I don't think next week already, seeing how there are too many unanswered questions and there wasn't any promo yet...


If I recall correctly...the tongues and easter eggs dont show up until just a few days...(3 -4 ?) prior...isnt that the usual M.O.?
And after the announcement that there will be announcement...innit that right?

I mean...once those go up and are seen...all bets are off...something WILL happen...
I love the waiting game, TBH...Since I have no control over it, just thinking about the possibilities is fun!!
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Reply #67 - Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:57pm
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Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:39pm:
ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
👍🏻👍🏻

so...when do y'all think we'll get the announcement? Maybe on 3rd/4th February already or the week after? I don't think next week already, seeing how there are too many unanswered questions and there wasn't any promo yet...


If I recall correctly...the tongues and easter eggs dont show up until just a few days...(3 -4 ?) prior...isnt that the usual M.O.?
And after the announcement that there will be announcement...innit that right?

I mean...once those go up and are seen...all bets are off...something WILL happen...
I love the waiting game, TBH...Since I have no control over it, just thinking about the possibilities is fun!!


Ahh good to know, for some reason I didn't properly remember anymore how long it took the last times from when the posters and stuff popped up until the announcement...so maybe next week something might happen and then we'll have it official in early February 🙏🏻 but since I've always hated waiting and am impatient af in general, I hope it won't be too much longer...also cause of taking off from work...I just really wanna know when the London shows are for real, not go by some rumours....
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Or better said the Stones will, once they finally announce the tour 🙏🏻 tbh as long as this doesn't officially happen, I'm a bit paranoid and anxious...
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We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing.
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We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing.


What do you mean? Oo
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Some Guy wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:05am:
We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing.


What do you mean? Oo


It's an old David Lee Roth quote, kind of...

Build anticipation interest, aka buzz, without lifting a finger really.

See also- I used to have a drug problem, but now I make enough money.
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Some Guy wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:24am:
ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:13am:
Some Guy wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:05am:
We will also continue to promote the hell out of doing nothing.


What do you mean? Oo


It's an old David Lee Roth quote, kind of...

Build anticipation interest, aka buzz, without lifting a finger really.

See also- I used to have a drug problem, but now I make enough money.



Yeah it's because people on IORR are crazy, spending 66 pages as of rn to speculate and so-called reporters quote their speculations and act like it's inside informations cause they're dumb and only want to create clickbait...it's truly astounding to see all the news outlets that have jumped on that Daily Fail article by now 😅
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