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Reply #25 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:07am
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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

                                           
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Jan 2023, Revvy says no tour, and
sticks with his prediction despite...


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...and it wasnt until April that I was 100% vindicated


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So, my forecast remains: ZERO chance of any Stones shows in 2025,
except for promo gig(s) for the new album circa halloween




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The world is upside down
Run by lunatics and clowns
No one speaks the truth*
The madhouse runs the town

Everybody is on the take
The news is all fake
Let 'em eat shit
Let 'em eat cake


*even though usually they don't even realize theyre spreading falsehoods

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Reply #26 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 12:49pm
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Well, hope you're right about the new album and wrong about the no tour

In 2023 it was planned but...
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Reply #27 - Jan 14th, 2025 at 10:32pm
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Today this was posted at La Vanguardia Barcelona by forum member Cleik

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Reply #28 - Jan 15th, 2025 at 4:10am
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1) newspaper above says "hope" there's a tour, barcelona dates are "penciled in"
for may, and probably the football club is going to have to allow it.

2) in effect, this article confirms no tour, because its too late.
contracts would need to have been signed by november 2024.

3) contracts for 2024 tour were signed mid november 2023, announcement
followed promptly nov 21, tickets on sale dec 1.

4) and what did the stones sign in nov 2022? the contract for HD.
and what did they sign in nov 24? the contract for HD Redux

5) so yeah, as i said earlier, we've been through this exact same bullshit
in 2022/23. the stones were completely wrapped up in bringing HD to market,
so they distracted the hardcore with a tour misinformation campaign, first for
spring 2023, then for late summer, but we know now for sure that no such
tour was ever planned, because they were busy working on the album release

6) so that's what's happening now. A misinfo campaign for spring tour 2025.
followed SOON by "whoops, sorry, couldnt get it together for the spring,
so it'll be late summer", followed by "sorry, no 2025 tour unfortunately"
followed by, in august, the album announcement and first single.

7) are the faithful being sucked in again this time?

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(actual meme posted recently on their tour thread}

so i'm thinking, maybe, if we really want to stop the flow of misinfo,
maybe we can get trump to buy norway too

8) fyi, i HATE The Sphere in vegas. i hate it architecturally, aesthetically,
philosophically, spiritually, every which way. but its the smart move.
two halloween-ish promo gigs there, and one more at MSG NYC.
first hour trippy audio visual retrospective, second hour stones live (about
ten songs,mostly from the HD albums)

and maybe some surprise mini gigs elsewhere



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Reply #29 - Jan 15th, 2025 at 9:37am
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Rev's got a point.
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Reply #30 - Jan 15th, 2025 at 12:00pm
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Reply #31 - Jan 15th, 2025 at 4:24pm
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I'd rather get a black and blue deluxe release this year
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Reply #32 - Jan 15th, 2025 at 4:32pm
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Another article from a Spanish newspaper

Los Rolling Stones volverán a España... si logran cerrar su gira europea

El grupo está trabajando en una gira de verano por Europa que comenzaría en Barcelona, pero está teniendo problemas para confirmar las fechas

https://www.elmundo.es/cultura/musica/2025/01/14/67862da721efa050238b4577.html

You're right Revy! It is conditioned to close more dates

Here a translation of one paragraph

The Rolling Stones will return to Spain in 2025... if they manage to close a European summer tour that they have been preparing for months, but that is not confirmed.

However, there are three cities rumored: Barcelona, Madrid and Sevilla
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Reply #33 - Jan 16th, 2025 at 6:50pm
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Whatevs, Rev. Delux or any Stains album would be well super, even with a couple of 'gentler' tracks (Crazy Gran'mama & Everything Is Turning To Golf) thrown in for good measure/balance/humour/groove.
Maybe.
In Stoonz We Truss,

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Reply #34 - Jan 17th, 2025 at 6:46am
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WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jan 16th, 2025 at 6:50pm:
Whatevs, Rev. Delux or any Stains album would be well super, even with a couple of 'gentler' tracks (Crazy Gran'mama & Everything Is Turning To Golf) thrown in for good measure/balance/humour/groove.
Maybe.
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It is this kind of complacency that will get us GRRRRR!! Part 3 and 4...with a delux HONK release...LOL
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Reply #35 - Jan 18th, 2025 at 12:58pm
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Reply #36 - Jan 20th, 2025 at 6:33am
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Unless Mick breaks his leg or whatever I'm pretty sure there will be a tour this summer, seeing how the mayor of Munich actually already announced that they will play in Munich on 12th July.

However, apart from this date, and the 2nd Amsterdam one on 9th June (which has been mentioned by multiple people for weeks now) I'm not so sure about other dates/places on Bjornulf's current list...especially 4 shows on the Iberian peninsula seem highly unlikely and unbelievable, most of all 2 Barcelona dates, seeing how Barca is playing the el clasico match against Real on the same day that Bjornulf has stated the 1st Barcelona match to be, however, Barca is still using the stadium that the Stones are supposed to play in cause their own stadium isn't finished with construction yet

That's why I think there won't be any Barcelona shows and the shows for Sevilla and Lisbon will replace them, but not all 4 shows there will happen, not only due to football but also seeing how everyone always is preaching that the Stones go where there is the highest buying power, yet people in Spain hardly seem to have the money to afford those high-priced tickets

That's why I don't really trust Bjornulf's list this time around, also cause Vienna suddenly disappeared again, altho I've heard by someone who works in this business that a Vienna show has been in the planning for months now...
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Reply #37 - Jan 20th, 2025 at 2:46pm
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I'd like to see them in London or Amsterdam
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Reply #38 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 3:00am
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Same, will go to London, Amsterdam in any case^^ also Munich and Berlin...and if after that I still have some money left, hopefully Paris 😅

actually I booked 2 refundable hotels rooms in Amsterdam (4th to 10th and 5th to 10th) in a hotel 5 minutes away from the one the Stones are staying at cause the dates are so weird, I believe the 9th June is true as I said above, it's about the only date I trust apart from Munich, but the 5th makes no sense to me because they only take 3 days off between shows in the same city, so the 6th makes far more sense, also since they don't need to rent the stadium a day longer that shit's expensive as well and they wanna maximise profit, and they'd have an extra day off after Rome

Also that's why I don't believe the dates for London that one person mentioned for a second, it's apparently 25th and 30th June, but why would they rent the stadium for so long if they don't have to? Seeing how Munich is on the 12th and couting back in steps of 4, the 2nd London date would probably be on the 30th, which makes it more likely for the 1st to be on 27th, which also gives them a nice long break after Copenhagen on the 17th, but that's just my 5 cents...
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Reply #39 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 4:41am
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Well, I'll most likely find myself traveling to Italy again if things go well, but I sure wish they'd just come back and play Greece already. Two gigs in 60+ years is just absurd, and it would definitely be a sold-out show.
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Reply #40 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 4:51am
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I agree, Greece would deserve one show, there was one person months ago who mentioned Athens but it doesn't seem like they went through with it...3 shows in Spain makes no sense at all, seeing how they're not a Spanish band and Spain hasn't so much buying power for 3 shows, yet everyone always says they go where the money is but I can't see people there buying expensive tickets for 3 shows, one alright, but 3? Completely unbelievable...

There rather should be 1 in Greece or Zagreb (which also was mentioned once a few months ago and if it were only one show in that area, loads of people would wanna go, especially since they haven't been there in ages) or a 3rd show in UK which at least makes sense cause they are from the UK and people there have more money, but 3 Spain shows is completely unrealistic and I think they won't all happen in the end because of the stadium conflict with Barca
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Reply #41 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:19am
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I'll try to go to 2 shows/city as long as I can get a non-stop flt.
I hope it will be a family trip, depending what my Glimmer Twins have planned for their summer,
or at least a Wifey trip with a concert or two in the mix.
Thinking the easiest would be London, Paris, Rome, Spain...so any 2 of those cities.
2 round trips to Europe, at the most.
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Reply #42 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 2:52pm
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I agree, Greece would deserve one show, there was one person months ago who mentioned Athens but it doesn't seem like they went through with it...


Oh, they did? Don't know how I managed to miss this!
I don't trust the Greek organizational side on this to be honest, but I'm just keeping my fingers crossed. Since the last time they played here all the way back in 1998, the Stones had booked a gig in Athens the year of Keith's accident. Of course then it was cancelled. So, I try to believe there might still be a glimmer of hope.
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Reply #43 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 7:26pm
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rolling-stones-plan-huge-comeback-34...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14310537/The-Rolling-Stones-London...


It was revealed last month that the legendary rock band’s Hackney Diamonds Tour eclipsed Taylor Swift’s record-breaking Eras Tour in single-night revenue pulling in a staggering £10,345,659 per night.

Get Close will be played.
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4 concerts at Tottenham football stadium.

Interesting.
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ThomasOliver wrote on Jan 22nd, 2025 at 7:32am:
4 concerts at Tottenham football stadium.

Interesting.


IORR currently reports only 2 dates...I wonder what may get axed in the place of these rumored additional 2 shows....but whatever.

From IORR: https://iorr.org/tour25/

I wonder how that will fair out in the overall scheduling...as they can always do two 2-nite stands instead of a 4 nite straight run.
My hope would be to ad the 2 new shows AFTER Paris so I could just Chunnel over to the island.

Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is only 4 miles from Hackney!!
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Reply #46 - Jan 22nd, 2025 at 10:33am
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Personally, I don't believe a single word the Daily Fail is printing, they are known for spreading lies for clickbait and a lot of the time cannot even get people's age right cause they're too dumb/lazy to research, what they do is an insult to actual journalism

Someone mentioned that multiple reliable sources said Paris is on 19th July with a 2nd date there planned as well, so my guess is Paris on 16th and 19th July because only 3 days in between dates in the same city and the 16th is still free on the tour plan after Munich

My other guess is, they take a nice long break after Copenhagen and play in London on the 27th and 30th June and then possibly either in Vienna on the 4th July or another UK date there, before playing in Berlin on the 8th

And then possibly after Paris a last show in a smaller venue like they've done ever since the 2021 tour
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Reply #47 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:19am
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Idk if y'all have seen the updates Bjornulf made to the rumoured tour plan but there are multiple dates I still find very hard to believe...

First of all the 2 Barcelona shows...if they can't sort out the stadium situation, I doubt that there will be any show in Barcelona at all, seeing how Barca is playing a home match against Real on the 11th May and another one against Villareal on the 18th. So the Stones can't play in the same stadium on 10th and 15th because they need it for football. And atm it's unclear whether Camp Nou will be ready to be played in by then. So I totally have my doubts about those gigs and think there is a high probability they won't happen.

And even if they sort out the stadium situation and Barca can play at Camp Nou, why would the Stones suddenly need 5 days in between shows in the same city? Previously it's been 4 days in between shows in different cities, and 3 days between shows in the same city. That's also why I think Amsterdam on 5th and 9th July isn't correct and rather will be the 6th and 9th. Same goes for London, it probably won't be the 24th and 28th but maybe the 25th and 28th, or maybe the 26th and 29th, or probably also the 27th and 30th, or literally any 2 dates between the 24th and 30th that have 3 days in between, because stadium rent also is expensive and why would they rent a while stadium longer than it needs be? (Just a random side note about this here, I read that renting a major football stadium in Europe costs between 300-500k per day, so why would they waste money like that when they wanna make profit? Renting it 2 more days is almost 1 million lost)

The other issue I have is with the Berlin date. It makes no sense on the 5th July because Munich is on the 12th (the mayor of Munich confirmed it so I think that one is trustworthy). Why would they need a whole week of break there, when there also is a whole week of break after the London show? Plus on the 5th is already a show at Waldbühne by another artist and people pointed out that the city of Berlin doesn't allow 2 shows in that area (Waldbühne and Olympic stadium) on the same day becaus of noise (also the reason the Stones had to finish playing there at 10pm in 2022) and traffic situation. So it won't be on the 5th.

Also yes, the big gaps between shows especially in July. I think Berlin will be on the 4th or 8th and then there will be another show added on the respective other date. Also someone mentioned another Paris show on the 16th, so at least the 19th makes sense for the 2nd Paris show, cause 3 days in between dates in the same city.

That's just my opionon and I think we will see some changes once the tour is officially being announced, but I really was surprised to see Bjornulf create the city threads when he usually only does this after the official announcement, I have no clue why he is so sure about these dates and cities when there are so many open issues...
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Reply #48 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:14am
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ronnie-woody wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:19am:
why would the Stones suddenly need 5 days in between shows in the same city?

Because the dudes are effin OLD....its not a stretch....

Ronny has his home in BCN  still doesn't he?
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Reply #49 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:49am
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Last year they also played in NJ, LA and Chicago with 3 days in between and Mick and Keith have places in NYC as far as I've heard so that's not really an argument...

Ronnie having a place in Barcelona also doesn't change the fact that the stadium isn't available, plus people (i.e. other fans, mostly on IORR)  always point out that the Stones don't go where they wanna go most because it's not like planning a holiday trip, but where the concert organisers promise them the most money and I can't really see that either for 3 Spain dates, seeing how there isn't such a high buying power there because people's incomes aren't as high as in e.g. Austria, Switzerland, Germany, UK or Scandinavia

All of this taken together, I still highly doubt there will be 2 Barcelona shows, maybe 1 if they can figure out the stadium problem somehow

An additional thought: the Ernst-Happel stadium in Vienna isn't used for club football, so maybe the 2 Barcelona dates will be exchanged for the 2 Vienna dates that suddenly disappeared again from the rumours list, seeing how in July there are many other concerts in that stadium already, but maybe in May it looks different...
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