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Some Guy Resident Cretin Offline Posts: 15,828 Atlanta Gender:	How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list Nov 18^th, 2023 at 6:24pm Think about it.
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Some Guy Resident Cretin Offline Posts: 15,828 Atlanta Gender:	Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list Reply #1 - Nov 18^th, 2023 at 6:51pm Open the shows with Get Close is a gimme.
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Reply #3 - Nov 19^th, 2023 at 3:39pm

My guess is that you'll get five or six songs on the first few dates, mostly early in the set - with SSOH in with the warhorses. After a few shows, you'll probably be down to Angry, SSOH and Tell Me Straight, like Gazza said, and maaaaybe a rotating slot with one other one.

That's how the Stones usually roll.

I'm assuming they'll drop YCAGWYW because SSOH covers the gospel angle.

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #9 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:50pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:44pm:

Gazza wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 10:32am:

You'll get three songs (tops) and like it

And one of them will be Keith's.

And it will diminish to 1 song by 60% of the tour.
Looking fwd to Keef's TMS, if I'm lucky.

Another one joining the "Tour Promotor" Team... guys, give us some hope Grin

Now it's the first time in almost 6 years that I want to travel to see them, just because those four songs from Hackney Diamonds they played live at the Racket and now with those comments and the fact that Mick and Keith will be 80 YO by then I'm going to change plans

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #11 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 8:41pm

OK...Been thinking about this all day...

I don't see any issues with opening up with ANGRY!!
Just get TPTB to maximize whatever airplay there is these days....
And promote the single a bit more than a T&A video...I mean, do people really watch videos anymore...or do they simply "catch" videos?

The opening chords are right up there with,(ahem),Start ME Up...am I wrong???

Dare I say...even substitute Angry for SMU!! (and make room for another song)

There! Said my PEACE

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #13 - Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 3:59am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 21^st, 2023 at 9:35pm:

It will be heavy on the Diamonds rest assured. Most of the album actually. It's the Hackney Diamonds tour. You want the old stuff? Get a video. Meet me in the future not the pasture. Shiny Diamonds bitches! This album is a hit and this tour will be big.

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It's actuslly funny that Mick, who always seems to live so much in the present and has his instincts always directed to the future, is so nostalgic in his setlist choices, even tho claiming he hates nostalgia lol, so we'll see what's gonna happen...

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #14 - Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 11:08am

Being a front man, Mick always has to keep an audience engaged and entertained. If he's looking out at a crowd that isnt up dancing and singing, he's going to adapt his setlist to ensure that they are.

Its a bit of payback in a way for having such expensive tickets and rarely releasing new material. Its going to be mostly older people in the front rows as a result - and those people aren't buying new music.

Its disheartening to actually read on some fan sites and facebook pages in the last day or so (shidoobee for example) some (and I emphasise its only 'some') 'diehard' fans who presumably attend multiple shows actually saying they dont want to hear new songs. At all. It's as if the Stones may as well not have existed as a studio band beyond 1981 and their only purpose is to provide the cabaret for a social gathering.

Staggering to think that the Stones have put out their most critically acclaimed album in two generations and a lot of the people who will be down front at their upcoming shows simply don't care.

There isnt a lot of money in new music now for older acts. They're not shifting units like Adele or Taylor Swift and the money is all on playing high priced shows to audiences that are getting older and older.

There's very few veteran acts who go against the grain and play their new stuff and largely forego the 'classics' for the most part. Bob Dylan and Van Morrison are two that I can think of.

However, they're playing theatres - not stadiums. They dont feel the need to pander to people who only know their music from a greatest hits record.

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Reply #15 - Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 9:44pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 11:08am:

However, they're playing theatres - not stadiums. They dont feel the need to pander to people who only know their music from a greatest hits record.

It's a real pity but the Stones have, at least since the early days, never played many theatres. An argument can be made that it's not worth it for them in terms of what goes into it and the return, but a lot of incredible songs have never been given life because of their failure to play smaller gigs. People talk about the popularity of older songs, but a part of it is that the newer songs only have one life, and that's on the record. Hence, soon after the release, they are soon forgotten- often by the band. If you look at the Roundhay Park setlist in 82, which Mick called strange or odd, there is a reasonable cross section that gives the songs on Some Girls, Emotional Rescue, and Tattoo You life. Of course, at that point, albums weren't released an average of every 10-20 years.

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #16 - Nov 24^th, 2023 at 10:48am

Half of the setlist on that tour consisted of songs from those three albums, released since mid-78. Usually five each from Some Girls and Tattoo You and a couple from Emotional Rescue.

Of course they hadnt toured Europe since 1976. Back then, they seem to almost totally revamp the show every 3-4 years.

Look at a standard setlist from 1966. Then look at one from 1969. Then 1973. Then 1976, 1978 and 1981. They really reinvent themselves. They did it again next time around in 1989.

Even when you look at the 'old' (ie, pre 1978) songs from 1981-82 its noticeable how many of those songs hadnt been performed in a very long time. Plus they largely ignored anything from GHS and totally disregarded anything from IORR and Black and Blue.

That trend hasnt happened since 2002, which was the first tour they did that wasnt on the back of a new record. They dug deep for the arena and theatre shows on that tour but the stadium shows on that tour were the template for everything since

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #18 - Nov 28^th, 2023 at 11:57pm

Bitch wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

I'm going tp predict special appearances by Lady Gaga on SSOH, especially the NJ and LA shows, She has a big fan base and she likes to post but it won't be announced yet.

Really hope you're gonna be right about that!! Would be thrilled to see Lady Gaga in NJ, she's basically the only contemporary pop-radio artist that I like and hearing this song performed by her and Mick live would be incredible

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Reply #19 - Nov 30^th, 2023 at 7:02am

Bitch wrote on Nov 28^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

I'm going tp predict special appearances by Lady Gaga on SSOH, especially the NJ and LA shows, She has a big fan base and she likes to post but it won't be announced yet.

Hey Bitch!!
So glad to see your face on here here boards again!!!
Hope all has been swell in Ellen's world!

Hope to see you again on tour.

I also hope LG makes an appearance for you as well.
It would be blasphemy if another starlet (ex/ TS) made an appearance for the duet.
But, I would LOVE if Lizzo dropped by for a nice rendition of Ruby Tuesday!!

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Reply #20 - Nov 30^th, 2023 at 11:27am

Here is how we utilize Hackney Diamonds on the road.

1. Angry
2. Get Close
3. Tumbling Dice
4. Depending on You
5. Bite My Head Off
6. Start Me Up
7. Honkey Tonk Women
8. Whole Wide World
9. Dreamy Skies
10. Tell Me Straight
11. Slipping Away
12. Mess It Up
13. Live by The Sword.
14. Jumping Jack Flash
15. Driving Me Too Hard
16 Satisfaction
17. Paint It Black
18. Sympathy
Encore

19. Sweet Sounds of Heaven
20. Rolling Stones Blues

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Reply #21 - Dec 1^st, 2023 at 2:01am

I think the real question is which warhorses will be ditched in favour of the new songs? Personally, I hope they exchange Miss You for WWW/Mess it Up+Bite My Head Off, I'm tired of it and it takes away so much time that they could easily use to play 2 new songs instead...also throw out CAGWYW or Gimme Shelter for SSoH...Angry probably might take the spot that 19th Nervous Breakdown had during the last tour...

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Reply #22 - Dec 1^st, 2023 at 2:03am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 11:27am:

Sadly don't think this will happen but I could die happy if I could hear WWW, Tell Me Straight and Driving Me Too Hard during a showz those are my 3 fave songs on the record...and in addition to that SSoH and then only Mick and Keith closing with RSB...one can dream

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #24 - Dec 9^th, 2023 at 1:29pm

OK...been thinking about this for a bit...not too deeply, but serendipitly, during my 25-30 minute commute each day as I listen to the new album.

The following is my list of HD songs and what they can replace in a "normal" setlist.
I looked at about 4-5 setlist from 2015-present to get a good idea of what is being/can be played in 2024.

NOTE:
I am NOT saying these are to replace each song EVERY night...but how they can be slipped into the setlist
to maintain the feel and groove of the original song in their given slots.
This is not a written-in-stone (ahhhh, see what I did there??) opinion...it's just how I feel the
new song(s) may seamlessly work in any given nights' performance.

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Some Guy
, We may have to debate this over a few beers and BBQ Ribs at Daddy D’z in Atlanta

A substitution of 2-3 songs a night might be OK...some folks think more new songs, some less...(oh no, not the warhorse discussion again!!)
They can actually perform EVERY HD song during this tour, IMO.
I dont feel there are any that will bring the nite to a snore-fest for 5 minutes (Back of my hand...Has Anybody seen my baby, Juiced, come to mind)

I think the rumored small show where they play the whole album would be amazing to see, like they played SF at The Fonda

I would love to hear your thoughts/edits...

"Angry" >>> SMU

"Get Close" >>> GOMC / 19NB / LSTNT / UMT

"Depending On You" >>> WH

"Bite My Head Off" >>> BITCH / UMT / BS (i know...rip BS) /Satisfaction (if not in the encore slot)

"Whole Wide World" >>> SFM / IORR

"Dreamy Skies" >>> LIB / DF / SV

"Mess It Up" >>> MY (can reduce the restroom traffic frenzy, lol)

"Live by the Sword"   >>> IORR / GOMC / YGMR / UMT

"Driving Me Too Hard"   >>> HTW

"Tell Me Straight" >>> Any Keef Song, (maybe paired with Infamy)

"Sweet Sounds of Heaven" >>> YCAGWYW / GS (If the duet is extended for the runway portion
                                                    or if Gaga/Taylor shows up / MR (if Mick tosses in some amazing bluesy gospely harp!!)

"Rolling Stone Blues"    >>> Encore add-on or intimate main set closer

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Some Guy Resident Cretin Offline Posts: 15,828 Atlanta Gender:	Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list Reply #27 - Dec 13^th, 2023 at 9:51am All ATL greetings should occur at The Benz. Plenty of fine meeting spots to greet. I'm a very busy man. No pictures, please. Development progressing....
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Some Guy Resident Cretin Offline Posts: 15,828 Atlanta Gender:	Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list Reply #28 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 3:55pm Streaming this album now, piddling at the crib. Excellence from the speakers.
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Some Guy Resident Cretin Offline Posts: 15,828 Atlanta Gender:	Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list Reply #29 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 9:58am The real question should be how do we add other songs to the Hackney Diamonds playlist? This album is getting better daily! I want all 12 now!!!
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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #30 - Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:45pm

Some Guy wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 9:58am:

The real question should be how do we add other songs to the Hackney Diamonds playlist? This album is getting better daily! I want all 12 now!!!

The rumored club shows in Omaha and Raleigh/Durham are said to be the full album debut.
I read that on the interwebs, btw

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Reply #31 - Dec 29^th, 2023 at 9:35am

Paranoid Android wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

Some Guy wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 9:58am:

The real question should be how do we add other songs to the Hackney Diamonds playlist? This album is getting better daily! I want all 12 now!!!

The rumored club shows in Omaha and Raleigh/Durham are said to be the full album debut.
I read that on the interwebs, btw

They are playing Hackney Diamonds in full at The Brazen Head Irish Pub in Omaha- tickets are available below.

Stay Hackney!

https://www.brazenheadpub.com/

for quicker service call and ask for Jill, she is a cafe hostess.

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Re: How do we use Hackney Diamonds in the new shows set list
Reply #34 - Jan 1^st, 2024 at 9:08am

Some Guy wrote on Dec 29^th, 2023 at 9:35am:

Paranoid Android wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

Some Guy wrote on Dec 28^th, 2023 at 9:58am:

The real question should be how do we add other songs to the Hackney Diamonds playlist? This album is getting better daily! I want all 12 now!!!

The rumored club shows in Omaha and Raleigh/Durham are said to be the full album debut.
I read that on the interwebs, btw

In case anyone was interested in the set list:

"Angry"
"Get Close"
"Depending On You"
"Bite My Head Off"
"Whole Wide World"
"Dreamy Skies"
"Mess It Up"
"Live by the Sword"
"Driving Me Too Hard"
"Tell Me Straight"
"Sweet Sounds of Heaven"
"Rolling Stone Blues"

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Reply #35 - Jan 14^th, 2024 at 2:08pm

Street Fighting Man
You Got Me Rocking / IORR / ????
Tumbling Dice
Angry
Out Of Time (*** I say they keep this one)
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Bite Your Head Off
Honky Tonk Women
--- Band introductions
Tell Me Straight (Keith)
Happy (Keith)
Miss You
Midnight Rambler
Paint It Black
Start Me Up
Gimme Shelter
Jumping Jack Flash
--- Band off stage
Sympathy For The Devil
Satisfaction

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