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Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread?
Reply #350 - Feb 2^nd, 2025 at 11:29am

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2025/02/02/the-rolling-stones-won-the-...

It would be quite the show of staying power for the Rolling Stones to win the same category at the Grammys 30 years apart. It’s rare for musicians to remain successful enough in any field to even have a shot at doing something so radical, and the group stands a real chance at managing the feat.

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Reply #355 - Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 4:12am

The Stones deserve this! An amazing record with songs that sound awesome live 👏👏 WWW was so fun to hear last year, and Tell Me Straight is great as well live, SSOH a total highlight with Chanel!
So sad they couldn't celebrate it by announcing the European summer tour, but hopefully it will follow in a few months for autumn 🙏🏻

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Reply #356 - Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 6:53am

I dont really care about the Grammys at all, but since the album was nominated, it was on my radar.
I didnt know who would win this category...of the 3 albums on the nominees list that I have listened to, all deserved to win...
Greenday, Black Crowes and the Stones all released fantastic albums this go-around.

Congrats Andrew Watt.

Congrats to AI John Lennon for Best Rock Performance as well...smh

Perhaps we can have AI FFSO vols 2 & 3 one of these days....

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Reply #358 - Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 9:29am

Tbh idk how I find the fact that an AI thing won something 🙈 in general, I find stuff like ChatGPT very helpful and it's a funny way to waste time and try to let Leonardo AI create images, but I feel the crucial point is using AI for fun vs for making money cause I kinda feel it's unethical, e.g. to tell ChatGPT prompts to write you a story and then put it on KDP self-publishing and make money from it, it's a disgrace and total disregard for actual artists/authors who put their entire time in this and wanna create something that actually has soul instead of letting an AI do the entire work for you

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Reply #360 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:55am

Matt Clifford just posted this on IG:

"Great to have a lot of hard work (and fun) recognised with a golden gramophone! Highlights were having Sir Paul, GaGa and Stevie sitting in - and seeing the songs come to life with a lot of energy from Mr Watt. Looking forward to meeting up with the band again soon…." https://www.instagram.com/p/DFprNYvs7y2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Sounds like they wanna wrap up that new album now (I mean Mick said it's like 70% done, right?), so it probably only will take them a few weeks and then hopefully they can tour behind it in autumn 🤭

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Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread?
Reply #361 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:06am

ronnie-woody wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 9:29am:

Tbh idk how I find the fact that an AI thing won something 🙈 in general, I find stuff like ChatGPT very helpful and it's a funny way to waste time and try to let Leonardo AI create images, but I feel the crucial point is using AI for fun vs for making money cause I kinda feel it's unethical, e.g. to tell ChatGPT prompts to write you a story and then put it on KDP self-publishing and make money from it, it's a disgrace and total disregard for actual artists/authors who put their entire time in this and wanna create something that actually has soul instead of letting an AI do the entire work for you

The Grammy's have very strict rules about AI in place now...who, what and for what category a song, creator can be nominated...

https://variety.com/2023/music/news/grammys-reduce-four-top-awards-from-10-to-ei...

Artificial Intelligence (AI) Protocols

The GRAMMY Award recognizes creative excellence. Only human creators are eligible to be submitted for consideration for, nominated for, or win a GRAMMY Award. A work that contains no human authorship is not eligible in any Categories. A work that features elements of A.I. material (i.e., material generated by the use of artificial intelligence technology) is eligible in applicable Categories; however: (1) the human authorship component of the work submitted must be meaningful and more than de minimis; (2) such human authorship component must be relevant to the Category in which such work is entered (e.g., if the work is submitted in a songwriting Category, there must be meaningful and more than de minimis human authorship in respect of the music and/or lyrics; if the work is submitted in a performance Category, there must be meaningful and more than de minimis human authorship in respect of the performance); and (3) the author(s) of any A.I. material incorporated into the work are not eligible to be nominees or GRAMMY recipients insofar as their contribution to the portion of the work that consists of such A.I material is concerned. De minimis is defined as lacking significance or importance; so minor as to merit disregard.

In the case of AI John...I think it was more of filtering out the droning background and echoes and upmixing and uplifting John's already existing vocals...
I could be wrong, but that is what I recall Peter Jackson saying.

I'm in Goo's camp...all ward shows are a joke...just the industry (whichever one) patting itself on the back

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Bitch Rocks Off Regular Offline I always get my Rocks Off! Posts: 4,904 FL - USA Gender:	Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread? Reply #362 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:30pm It's great that Hackney Diamonds won a grammy and I don't think the Stones thought they would win, or they could have been in LA, but MICK don't need another jewel in his crown!
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,083 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread? Reply #363 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:34pm I am still stunned by the album. Hackney addict... We won The Grammy! Why don't you scream it out!!
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,083 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread? Reply #366 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:00am My Grammy sources tell me it will also get a shot next year. It's that damn good. Hackney Grammy. Grammy Diamonds.
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Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread?
Reply #369 - Feb 16^th, 2025 at 9:16am

Get Close totally crushes it. Jagger sings the fuck out of it. Keith jams it out nonstop...It is my new favorite Stones song! Each time I hear it, it somehow brings back that familiar feeling I fell in love with in the Eighties, the first time I heard She's So Cold. The original song that sucked me in! Man, oh man, we won a Grammy!

The entire album is still so fucking amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,083 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread? Reply #370 - Feb 16^th, 2025 at 9:17am Goo wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 8:12am: I find the production a bit slick digital & brickwalled maybe you have Covid?
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,083 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread? Reply #371 - Feb 19^th, 2025 at 11:23am I mentioned this album to a customer/tenant/dude the other day. He called and said he downloaded it, and he had no idea this was out there. He said it was great.
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Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread?
Reply #372 - Feb 21^st, 2025 at 6:37am

Some Guy wrote on Feb 19^th, 2025 at 11:23am:

I mentioned this album to a customer/tenant/dude the other day. He called and said he downloaded it, and he had no idea this was out there. He said it was great.

I've shared that experience as well.
The Record companies no longer market albums like they should, or rather, the
way they used to. "I had no idea The Stones had a new album", would never be heard.

You were always "aware" at the very least. The record companies no longer care about sales.
The artist cant depend on sales. Thats why touring is such an expensive option.

<Jumps off his soapbox, catches breath>

[i]Isn't time for a new single to get the treatment????/b][/i]

< Jumps back up onto soapbox >

It certainly is, but is there any incentive for an established band to release new stuff these days?

A simple Google AI search provides the following:

> A song needs at least 1,000 streams in a year to generate royalties on Spotify. This is the minimum number of streams required to be eligible for monetization on the platform

> Spotify implemented this policy to focus revenue on "emerging and professional artists". However, some artists have criticized the policy, calling it a way to devalue long-tail music.

>You can estimate your streaming royalties using the formula:
Royalties = Number of Streams x Average Payout Rate

> For example, if you have 500,000 streams on Spotify and the average payout is $0.004 per stream, your estimated royalties would be $2,000.

Even when you bought music on Apple iTunes at $1 a song, the artist made at least 10 cents or more per purchase.
I believe it was about the same for hard singles (45s or otherwise).
Exceptions and contracted rates, not withstanding.

[b]< Jumps back off...shakes his bones, and walks away into the cold rain and snow >

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,083 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Is This the new Official HACKNEY DIAMONDS release thread? Reply #373 - Feb 21^st, 2025 at 7:35am It's a stunning album with amazing songs. No promotion by Record Co. Age discrimination?? Plus the Grammy? C'mon man!
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