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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #25 - Sep 27^th, 2020 at 7:47pm

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 27^th, 2020 at 5:50pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Sep 27^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

Something interesting in the credits. Play with Fire has writing credits for Mick, Keith, Charlie, Bill and Brian.

Would that not be known collectively as Nanker Phelge ?

Not anymore.

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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #26 - Sep 27^th, 2020 at 11:42pm

I need to see this, I was there and only have the bootlegs.
I didn't know there was a japan only show released from 1990.
is it for sure not the worldwide release of tokyo dome, a different show?
I was at 2 of the three AC shows and the opener in Philly when the explosion happened during shattered. I was of course on lsd and wasn't sure if that explosion killed me and I died at a Stones concert. I was that high at that moment.

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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #28 - Sep 28^th, 2020 at 7:20am

The vault show from Tokyo was the 26th February 1990 concert. This was the concert that was televised in Japan in 1990.

The 24th February 1990 show circulated for years as a pro shot and was released as a 'From The Vaults Extra' released in Japan in 2017.

The new release features the 24th February show.

I assume the 24/2/90 show was filmed as a 'dry run' for the televised concert as the setlists are identical.

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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #29 - Sep 28^th, 2020 at 10:35am

Gazza wrote on Sep 28^th, 2020 at 7:20am:

I assume the 24/2/90 show was filmed as a 'dry run' for the televised concert as the setlists are identical.

Not only a dry run, but the camera crew would have filmed it to use bits (fretboard closeups, etc.) as "coverage" footage for a re-edited version, replacing missed or inferior shots from the second night. Audio bits as well, in case needed for patches.

There's always a re-edit for a second broadcast, such as the 2003 MSG show on HBO, whose rebroadcast version differed from the live capture.

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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #31 - Sep 28^th, 2020 at 6:18pm

andrews27 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2020 at 10:35am:

Gazza wrote on Sep 28^th, 2020 at 7:20am:

I assume the 24/2/90 show was filmed as a 'dry run' for the televised concert as the setlists are identical.

Not only a dry run, but the camera crew would have filmed it to use bits (fretboard closeups, etc.) as "coverage" footage for a re-edited version, replacing missed or inferior shots from the second night. Audio bits as well, in case needed for patches.

There's always a re-edit for a second broadcast, such as the 2003 MSG show on HBO, whose rebroadcast version differed from the live capture.

Did it? Do you know in what way?

I know the Tokyo 26/2/90 wasnt broadcast 'live' but was shown a couple of months later with a couple of songs cut out (bizarrely, one of them was 'Sympathy', which is a performance that for me is up there with the one on 'Ya Yas' as the best version of it I've ever heard - its the same one thats on 'Flashpoint' albeit with the guitar solos somewhat truncated). They broadcast the full show on a re-run a few months later.

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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #32 - Sep 30^th, 2020 at 8:17am

Gazza wrote on Sep 28^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

andrews27 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2020 at 10:35am:

Gazza wrote on Sep 28^th, 2020 at 7:20am:

I assume the 24/2/90 show was filmed as a 'dry run' for the televised concert as the setlists are identical.

Not only a dry run, but the camera crew would have filmed it to use bits (fretboard closeups, etc.) as "coverage" footage for a re-edited version, replacing missed or inferior shots from the second night. Audio bits as well, in case needed for patches.

There's always a re-edit for a second broadcast, such as the 2003 MSG show on HBO, whose rebroadcast version differed from the live capture.

Did it? Do you know in what way?

I know the Tokyo 26/2/90 wasnt broadcast 'live' but was shown a couple of months later with a couple of songs cut out (bizarrely, one of them was 'Sympathy', which is a performance that for me is up there with the one on 'Ya Yas' as the best version of it I've ever heard - its the same one thats on 'Flashpoint' albeit with the guitar solos somewhat truncated). They broadcast the full show on a re-run a few months later.

For instance, if you watch a tape of the first night live edit of the 2002 MSG, and a tape of the version rebroadcast by HBO multiple times over the next month, you'll see different visual editing choices.

I believe rebroadcasts of their PPV shows are also re-edited, though this is almost always visual and not sound overdubs or cuts to the setlist (except sometimes tightening overlong intervals between songs). An exception would be overdubs applied to the very heavily re-edited and shortened commercial broadcast of "Terrifying," with its 3-D segment.

This is kind of a shame, for while the "finished product" is notably slicker looking, a lot of the "on the fly" editing choices made in the production truck are often more exciting and have a better visual logic. This seems to have become the industry norm, however, and you can see it in re-broadcast sporting events such as the Olympics. Don't get me started on skaters' knickers.

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Re: Atlantic City '89 to be released on blu-ray by Eagle Rock on 25th September (note new date)
Reply #33 - Oct 3^rd, 2020 at 10:45am

I listened to the audio on Spotify first but watching the Blu-Ray while I was working out really blew me away. This is a superb release of a phenomenal show, probably one of their best concerts of all time.

The weaving is especially brilliant on this show; listen to "Happy" especially, what Keith and Ronnie do is just sublime.

"Boogie Chillin'" is mixed to perfection where you can hear all four guitarists beautifully.

"Sympathy" is a tour de force and I got a kick out of Cindy and Lisa flanking Bill while he softly sang along with the 'woo woo''s.

Keith is in stunning form as mentioned. I forgot that he was almost as animated as Mick with the thrusting and leg kicks and moving around the stage. As much as I loved what I heard from him in 2019, I miss the mobile, charismatic Keith we see here.

It's clear Bernard, Chuck, and Lisa (though she's not nearly as recurring a presence as in 1994-2015) cemented themselves into the extended Stones family quite early on.

Amazing release on all fronts.

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