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Reply #125 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 4:10pm
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Reply #127 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:24pm
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That reel lists two song titles

'Stu + Jimmy + Keef' is a separate title (presumably some kind of working title /jam or instrumental) - NOT the musician credits for 'Scarlet'

Island Studios is in London, of course. They had used it a few months earlier for doing some of the final additions to IORR as well as the previous spring for Goats Head Soup.

And the recording date of 5th October 1974 (not 10 May 1974 - they're using the UK style) is around the time this track has long been rumoured to date from - and puts the session as taking place AFTER the 'Its Only Rock n' Roll' album was finished (it came out two weeks later) and less than two months before the band went to Munich to start work on 'Black and Blue'.

So, this song is a bit of an anomaly. Seems that Keith may have been doing what Mick did with the song 'Its Only Rock n Roll' a few months earlier, in that he started working on it with outside musicians first with a view to presenting it to the band for consideration.  Like that song, it may well be the case that at least a couple of the band members dont play on it

It'd be interesting to see how much (if any) work Mick did on it around the time of 'Black and Blue' as he has suggested in recent months that he was finishing off some leftovers for this release.

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Reply #128 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:28pm
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For those of you in the Netherlands, amazon.nl have the super deluxe listed on pre-order as €30.22.

Its clearly an error as the proper price should be around four times that, but it might be worth ordering now in case it legally commits them to selling at that price

https://www.amazon.nl/Rolling-Stones-Goats-Ltd-Super-Del-Ed/dp/B089J5GZHL/ref=sr...

They won't ship orders outside the Netherlands, it seems. Believe me, I tried!
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Reply #129 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:00pm
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Reply #130 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm
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Gazza wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:28pm:
They won't ship orders outside the Netherlands, it seems. Believe me, I tried!


I did it too, it's the first country in which my Amazon account didn't work, I can login into Amazons en USA, UK, Germany and Japan with the same user/password combination

If you live there buy it, yes, if you buy it now, legally they cannot retract
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Reply #132 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 7:57pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 20th, 2020 at 10:01am:
I think we should release Scarlet now.

Criss Cross crushes!


OMG!!! one day later
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Reply #133 - Jul 21st, 2020 at 8:51pm
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Gazza wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:28pm:
For those of you in the Netherlands, amazon.nl have the super deluxe listed on pre-order as €30.22.

Its clearly an error as the proper price should be around four times that, but it might be worth ordering now in case it legally commits them to selling at that price

https://www.amazon.nl/Rolling-Stones-Goats-Ltd-Super-Del-Ed/dp/B089J5GZHL/ref=sr...

They won't ship orders outside the Netherlands, it seems. Believe me, I tried!



I can't believe they wont ship to North Cackalacky...I signed in, no problem...added 3 to my cart...no problem...and manually put my address in and it accepted that, no problem...then hit proceed...PROBLEM... it still said it wont ship to NC... Undecided Undecided Undecided
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Reply #134 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 3:02am
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Just heard it LIVE on BBC2 with Mick and Jimmy interviewed.

Great song!!!
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Reply #136 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 8:12am
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Fuck
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This is great!
Thanks guys!
If you don't like this song the CDC recommend you quarantine until you do.

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Reply #137 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 8:50am
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It's ok. Pleasant enough but even if what we've just heard was the song as it was cut in the mid 70's (which is unlikely) I can see why they didnt release it at the time.
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Reply #138 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 10:40am
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It's really good, but I think we were a little fooled by the melodic chorus and somehow the rest of the song sounding a little more like the chorus. It's got the harder verses and is a little like Mixed Emotions in that way. Would be tough to play live. The verses don't sound developed enough.
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Reply #141 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 11:23am
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Allso Some Guy wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 5:48am:



Also with no Lyrics, by the same official source LOL

Why Ronnie?

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Reply #142 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 11:31am
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It's lovely.
It's got 'The Wick' (the house in Richmond) written all over it. There are a few tunes (including familiar-ish lyric lines) in there. Plus enough funk (thank God they encouraged/discovered that) to fill one's trousers twice over.

On the park seats on Richy Hill the other evening, there was nothing but cheerful swearing to be heard all the way down to the river. Did they all listen to this in advance?

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Reply #143 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 12:26pm
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From Jimmy Page's facebook :

On this day in 2020, Scarlet by The Rolling Stones, featuring me, is released.⠀

I was invited to Ronnie Woods’ house in Richmond to do a session in October 1974. It was said that Keith Richards and Ian Stuart (Stu) would be there. It sounded a good opportunity to catch up with old friends.⠀

There was Keith Richards on electric guitar, myself on electric guitar, Rick Grech on bass and a drummer and engineer I had not met before. Keith kicked it off and I began to mould a riff around his guitar part to augment the arrangement. It began to lock-in pretty soon with the musicians and we all got a successful take that evening. I’d had a good time working with Keith. ⠀

It was said they were continuing the following night at Island Number 2 Studios in London. I said I’d go and play some guitar soloing on it. I arrived early on that evening and got to do it straight away within a few takes. It sounded good to me and I left them to it.⠀

Mick made contact with me recently and I got to hear the finished version. It sounded great and really solid.⠀

I’m happy they chose to release it as part of the forthcoming Goats Head Soup 2020 album. It’s an ultra-rare appearance of me outside Led Zeppelin in the ’70s.

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and a few notes from Martin Elliott's facebook page 'The Rolling Stones Sessions'

It was at this time, on 4 October 1974 that at Ron Wood's Wick home studio in London, along with Ric Grech (Traffic's bassist), Bruce Rowland (Fairport Convention's drummer), Ian Stewart and Jimmy Page, a small session evolved which worked on the song Scarlet. Jimmy worked on a riff around Keith’s guitar part. This was a Jagger, Richards song described by Jimmy that was in the mould of folk but featuring reggae style guitars. Jimmy thought it was particularly good, something you would get on Bob Dylan's BLONDE ON BLONDE album and would have made a good B-side. The following evening, Keith Richards went with Jimmy to Island Studio No. 2 for guitar overdubs and transfer from eight to 16-track. The tapes also contain a long unavailable jam with Stu, Jimmy and ‘Keef’. Soon after, the tapes were taken to Switzerland by Keith where they were listened to and Keith described the content as something from a possible Page solo album project. Scarlet Lilith Eleida was the then three years old daughter of Jimmy with his partner Charlotte Martin. In September 2020, the track became a stretched addition to a GOATS HEAD SOUP re-issue since the album had been released over a year before Scarlet was recorded. However, it was a welcome and anticipated addition which while unheard had gained some folklore credibility over the years by fans. Scarlet was given a fresh coat of paint by Mick in spring 2020 by overdubbing vocals, an acoustic guitar and some percussion.
It was released as a download on 22 July following a preview with a brief Mick and Jimmy Page interview on Zoe Ball’s BBC Radio 2 breakfast programme. The 2020 recording has a short and lively staccato guitar intro before the percussion and vocals enter. It develops into a catchy refrain followed by the first lead break from Jimmy which holds interest. However, unlike the mechanisations behind Criss Cross which integrate into the era the overlying stratosphere of Scarlet is modernistic and somewhat forced. It contains some cuts, splicing and pasting to lengthen the track as the original tape box testifies with a timing of 3.05. The tape notes state the Cockroaches as the artists which was a much-used studio anonymity tactic. Many of the bonus out-takes from the re-issue of GOATS HEAD are contemporary instrumentals and re-mixes and Scarlet may have been best served in that ilk.

(c) Martin Elliott 2020
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Reply #145 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 12:47pm
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Interesting that the first session (4th October) was at Ronnie Wood's home studio at The Wick (which is now of course, Pete Townshend's house)

This would possibly have been around the time that Keith was spending a lot of his time in London living (secretly) in the guest quarters of Ronnie's house as he was getting a lot of unwelcome attention from the police. At the time of that session, Ronnie was on tour with The Faces in Germany.

Mick of course used Woody's home studio in December 1973 to cut the basic track of 'Its Only Rock n Roll' with Woody, Kenney Jones and David Bowie.
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Reply #146 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 2:21pm
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Scarlett (with two Ts) is also the middle name of the lovely Betty Jogger, but that's neither here nor there.



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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000l1hv

Jimmy Page interview starts at around 2:14:48
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