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SONG LYrics: WINTER...Who/What is this about? (Read 4,017 times)
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Re: SONG LYrics: WINTER...Who/What is this about?
Reply #25 - Feb 7th, 2015 at 3:29pm
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I can only theorize what Andrew meant about the comparison to Van Morrison "stinging," perhaps it's just that one would think Mick himself wouldn't like to be compared to someone lower on the totem pole? Certianly, Lester had mucho respect for Van so whether the comparison was meant snarkily, we'll never really know, Lester not being here to clarify for us. Not sure we cdan say Lester "knew" the Stones weren't drawing to an end, I thought it was sorta common to assume back in those days that these bands weren't going to last forever.


Comparisons are generally made to be instructive, this one wasn't immediately...except to say that" Winter" is perhaps edging towards the pre-semiotic in the sense that it's going for an overall feel, as opposed to any sort of narrative, which Van is so good at. As Marvin (Wink) said, "imagery, experimentation (without self-indulgence), mood, and intention." I'm not an art person, but the word impressionistic comes to mind?
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Re: SONG LYrics: WINTER...Who/What is this about?
Reply #26 - Feb 8th, 2015 at 1:26am
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SheRat wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 3:29pm:
I can only theorize what Andrew meant about the comparison to Van Morrison "stinging," perhaps it's just that one would think Mick himself wouldn't like to be compared to someone lower on the totem pole? Certianly, Lester had mucho respect for Van so whether the comparison was meant snarkily, we'll never really know, Lester not being here to clarify for us. Not sure we cdan say Lester "knew" the Stones weren't drawing to an end, I thought it was sorta common to assume back in those days that these bands weren't going to last forever.


Comparisons are generally made to be instructive, this one wasn't immediately...except to say that" Winter" is perhaps edging towards the pre-semiotic in the sense that it's going for an overall feel, as opposed to any sort of narrative, which Van is so good at. As Marvin (Wink) said, "imagery, experimentation (without self-indulgence), mood, and intention." I'm not an art person, but the word impressionistic comes to mind?

We seem to agree on the intent and overall effect (or is that affect?) of "Winter", SheRat.

But what's this about Van Morrison being 'lower on the totem pole' than Jagger?
That seems an incredible view to hold, even retroactively, about the state of popular music in 1973.
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