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Help with Jagger song, please?
Jan 17^th, 2014 at 8:32pm

I was flipping channels and landed on Discovery channel watching Obsession: Dark Desires, because I caught Jagger singing the following (I think):

This is what I want
'cause I know you're mine
It's alright
(background: It's alright)
It's all good
We're doing things I never thought we could.....

Anyone know what song this is? It's fast rocker, sounds post 1990s from his voice.

Thanks for any help. I can't find answer despite various searches.

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Reply #3 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 12:35pm

I'd really appreciate it if someone would help with this. It's driving me nuts. I guarantee it was Jagger singing. Can't imagine its a Stones song, as I believe I've heard everything they've done by this point, including boots.

I don't recognize it from Jagger's 4 solo albums. It's likely to be some one-off deal he did. A movie? Guest appearance on someone's album? I checked Superheavy and Alfie, and couldn't find it. If you can help with this, I'll return the favor. Get you straightened out.

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Reply #4 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:06pm

It's an early outtake of "Peaceful Easy Feeling".

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Reply #6 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 7:29pm

moonie, you know this kid?

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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #9 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:44pm sirmoonie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 8:52pm: Starbuck wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 7:29pm: moonie, you know this kid? I grew up in a black neighborhood in Pittsburgh. I actually met Fred Rogers during a school field trip once too (he's a Pittsburgh native). That particular black kid, I do not recognize. OAKLAND?
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Reply #13 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 10:39am

BILL PERKS wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:44pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 8:52pm:

Starbuck wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

moonie, you know this kid?

I grew up in a black neighborhood in Pittsburgh. I actually met Fred Rogers during a school field trip once too (he's a Pittsburgh native). That particular black kid, I do not recognize.

OAKLAND?

Yes, at times, the Oakland district of Pittsburgh. Also in East Liberty district. Why? Is yinz from there?

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Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

sirmoonie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

BILL PERKS wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:44pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 8:52pm:

Starbuck wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

moonie, you know this kid?

I grew up in a black neighborhood in Pittsburgh. I actually met Fred Rogers during a school field trip once too (he's a Pittsburgh native). That particular black kid, I do not recognize.

OAKLAND?

Yes, at times, the Oakland district of Pittsburgh. Also in East Liberty district. Why? Is yinz from there?

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sirmoonie Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 3,479 Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #16 - Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 8:52pm Those are the only lyrics I could hear. I have checked everywhere, every search I could think of. I have a piece of the video, but its 2 Meg and I can't upload it here. Tried Shazam too, but the audio is too low to hear. It's driving me bananas.
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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #17 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:38am

sirmoonie wrote on Jan 17^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:

I was flipping channels and landed on Discovery channel watching Obsession: Dark Desires, because I caught Jagger singing the following (I think):

This is what I want
'cause I know you're mine
It's alright
(background: It's alright)
It's all good
We're doing things I never thought we could.....

Anyone know what song this is? It's fast rocker, sounds post 1990s from his voice.

Thanks for any help. I can't find answer despite various searches.

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Programs broadcast on commercial cable channels do not use music by top artists, because it costs too much to license it. Check out the Biography show documentaries on Stones, Zep, Springsteen, etc. - it's all fake riffs using the chords from popular songs by these artists. What you heard was somebody ripping off Jagger for low royalties. It takes monied networks (HBO, Showtime) not dependent on outside advertisers to license songs by top artists.

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Reply #18 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 8:21am

andrews27 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 9:38am:

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Programs broadcast on commercial cable channels do not use music by top artists, because it costs too much to license it. Check out the Biography show documentaries on Stones, Zep, Springsteen, etc. - it's all fake riffs using the chords from popular songs by these artists. What you heard was somebody ripping off Jagger for low royalties. It takes monied networks (HBO, Showtime) not dependent on outside advertisers to license songs by top artists.

Thanks! I had kind of wondered if it was some kind of tribute band deal. I will keep searching and post it when I find it. if it is an imitator, you would not believe how well this guy can do Jagger.

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Reply #20 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 11:12am

Some Guy wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

moonpickle, try posing that question over at shidooobee, guy's know their shit over there.

Our Stones knowledge here is vast and comprehensive. We're the best. You take our worst retards - a handful of the the biggest fucking idiots we got - and they can still match wits with any alleged "gurus" over there any day!

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sirmoonie Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 3,479 Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #21 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 1:51pm Okay, I had a friend upload it. Colleagues, is that not Jagger singing? What song is it? I don't know why I can't post the YouTube as an embedded video, but this link should work. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Zwbn-w1j4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DD1Zwbn-w1j4
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Reply #27 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:01pm

That is so obviously fake Jagger. And "Guys who know their shit" know how the movie and TV business works in terms of licensing and usage.

Send that clip to the Stones organization and watch them eat up the profits from that show like they ate up The Verve. Tom Waits and Bette Midler each sued the makers of TV commercials for using sound-alike voices, and won. Subsequent filmmakers and TV producers had to abide by these legal precedents, just as recording artists had to observe the decisions in the rap record sampling cases.

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Reply #28 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:24pm

There is strong mental bias toward believing it is not Jagger because the song is not one we've apparently heard.

It's not "obviously" fake Jagger, or as a boot licking worshipper of the Stones, I would know for a fact that it's fake, and I don't know that for a fact. Sure the fuck sounds like Jagger to me, although I admit the frequency discrimination and bandwidth of my hearing is below average.

I'm told by my very knowledgeable friend that recorded it from OnDemand for upload to youtube, that it sounds even "more" like Jagger when the audio quality is better. That person is convinced its Jagger, and like I said, very knowledgeable. She almost romped with Jagger once, circa 2003.

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Reply #29 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:26pm

I'm sorry, but why would Jagger - who ate The Verve alive and never bothered to spit them out - allow that song to be used in that show for the shit price that that network could pay?

People who make higher budgeted shows and films can't afford to license better songs in the original artists' renditions - they accept the cheaper rate to license a cover version, not the $tar performance. It's even cheaper when the $upporting musicians are not those on the record$.

Send it to the Stones organization. Let the lawyers decide.

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Reply #32 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 10:58am

andrews27 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:26pm:

I'm sorry, but why would Jagger - who ate The Verve alive and never bothered to spit them out - allow that song to be used in that show for the shit price that that network could pay?

People who make higher budgeted shows and films can't afford to license better songs in the original artists' renditions - they accept the cheaper rate to license a cover version, not the $tar performance. It's even cheaper when the $upporting musicians are not those on the record$.

Send it to the Stones organization. Let the lawyers decide.

I understand and appreciate your points, but there are a lot of assumptions in there.

We're not talking Start Me Up here. If its Jagger, its so obscure, we don't even know it. Much less $$$ to license.

It doesn't have to be Stones property either, it could be some Jagger project, of which I'm sure he has dozens. Who knows what rights he retains - does he own Ruthless People? State of Shock? Right to license background vocals to You're So Vain?

The show/movie is made by October Films UK, and we have no idea how much money they have or don't have.

Also, "voice misappropriation" is a tort limited to California, I believe. But wherever it is, the existence of it as a cause of action, factors toward this not being a Jagger knock-off.

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Reply #34 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 1:34pm

We're not talking Start Me Up here. If its Jagger, its so obscure, we don't even know it. Much less $$$ to license.

Yes, but see - No one would pay anything to license obscure Jagger. Filmmakers license songs for their appeal and their associations. Nobody needs obscure Jagger playing on a car radio in a soon-to-be-forgotten TV show, to be noticed only by Stones fanatics.

That's imitation Jagger (and imitation Stones also), thrown on a soundtrack by people whose only motivation is a paycheck. The smaller the licensing budget - the bigger and the more secure their paychecks are.

I looked the show up on IMDB, and nobody cares enough about it to even title and synopsize the episodes, much less provide Trivia info on the great, obscure Jagger song smuggled into one episode.

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Reply #36 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 2:37pm

They only way to resolve this is to get some Negroes involved, see what they say. So, lets get that in motion, see if any of them are in the mood these days to play ball with whitey. Maybe meet back here in a few days.

It's all right!
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It's all good!
(It's all good.....)
Busting moof like I never thought we could
(thought we could.....)

Dig it, Mick Jagger.

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Reply #38 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 8:16am

That ain't him. That guy just elongates the O sounds. Like this "Everybody go to guh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
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Obama's got attitude problems. Don't be surprised to see god do to Obama what he did to Nebuchardnezzar. I'm serious. Obama may be chewing on the White House lawn like a modern day oxen, ass, or sow.

Here is what Nebardnezzar was reduced to by god. You can see just how wrathful Him is when Him come calling.........

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Reply #40 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 3:26pm

Well, this legendary poster is off to London for a week of hardcore drinking. Yes! Yes. Good job on this. Yeah!

Me and London - we get along groovy. As Samuel Johnson said: "The noblest prospect a Scotsman ever sees, is the high road that leads to London."

I'll take pictures for yinz, and maybe bring back some treats. I may even post live from historical Stones sites. I have that technology now.

I'll chase down this song too. I know where Jagger hangs out.

I know where The Score is.

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Reply #46 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 1:23pm

I'll look for it. I was thinking more like if you guys needed any Smarties, Bovril or Crunchie bars. Because drugs in England have always been poor quality to me. Despite its rep, its not a drug town. Other than alcohol, of course. Which happens to be my favorite drug, and why London and me are the greatest combo the overzealous Lord has ever manufactured.

Cheers! I fell asleep on the train to Pissington and Cockfosters and ended up in bloody Neasden then, didn't I?

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Rev 20 Redlights Rocks Off Regular Online Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,003	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #51 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 3:21pm I like the fact that it NOT being Jagger makes just as little sense as it being Jagger... Why go to the trouble and expense of cloning him when it has nothing to do with the plot and can not possibly be of any commercial advantage to this low budget series?
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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #53 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 4:56pm

Here's another possibility, and how real it is at this
point in time seems to be in dispute, so I wouldn't
take the following report at face value (I think it's
investment hype). But there's an intermediate step
that would be easier, rather than completely
generating the voice with an algorithm, instead just
using that algorithm to tune or refine the voice of a
skilled human imitator...

"Garianno Lorenzo’s Voice Cloning Technology Set For
Release. Giant Media is preparing to release
revolutionary voice cloning technology. The technology
allows users to create mathematically identical voice
prints of any person’s voice by using a short audio
sample to create a unique algorithm. Following the
generation of the algorithm, text input can then be
translated into speech or song with the help
of pitch inflection. Throughout the testing process, the
algorithms generated by the software have fooled the
human ear and forensic audio specialists. Speech tests
have been conducted using former U.S.presidents and
other public figures to create conversations that never
actually happened. Additionally, using Michael Jackson
and John Lennon as an example, Garianno Lorenzo
initiated a new musical project that combined the
voices of the two industry legends in a completely
original duet with new words and a new tune. The
differences between their real voices and the computer
generations were not discernible to the human ear. "

So what we could have here is an ambitious
up-and-coming sound/music person at October Films,
testing out some new software, showing off and trying
to make a name for themself. If that's what it is, I'm
definitely impressed.

See also recent article from Yahoo news "I hear
dead people"

http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=26741

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #55 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:29pm

munichhilton wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:18pm:

Sounds like Jagger authentico...

Probably from the new Chris Jagger CD..they can afford him

A number of us have done all kinds of searches. There
are no songs known with those lyrics. By anyone.

Footnote: The docudrama occurs in 1980. The
character is portrayed as hearing it on the radio, and
singing along, because she's in a good mood, as if it
was a favorite hit song of hers. They could have easily
used a pop "you are my sunshine" or anything out of
copyright, so why didn't they? They could never afford
even Chris Jagger (because Chris would need Mick's
approval on a Mick song for sure). The show is
extremely low-budget.

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #57 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:20pm

munichhilton wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:43pm:

Darn, that was my only great idea...

mh, you can tell how difficult this call is by how few
here are showing their hands...

What i still want it to be is some bizarre guerilla
marketing for something new. Or more likely old/new,
like a bonus track on re-released Sticky Fingers. That's
what it most sounds like to my wishful ears, something
re-worked from approximately that period, something
Leon Russel-y, that didn't get lyrics til recently.

But what I'm afraid it is is just some young brilliant
computer-augmented trickster making a fool out of me.

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #59 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 1:51am

If you think they can't process vocals to this extent
in the studio, then just listen for a few moments to
this very famous vid of Britney's unprocessed LIVE
vocals (this version probably won't last, all versions
of this get taken down)...

So if they can enhance Britney's live vocals by 90%
or so without it being noticeable to the audience,
what would stop a Beyonce or Bono or Mick Jagger from
enhancing their vocals by 25 or 30% ? Or someone
auto-correcting bum notes on the guitar?

Nothing. And with proper encryption on the non-processed
signal, they would never face embarassment like Britney has.

I've noticed on the U2 forums all these comments about
how happy they all are that Bono's voice is suddenly not
so thin or nasal-y. Hmmm. As a Stones fan, that sounds
familiar.

So the same argument applies here as in the tapping into
the secondary ticket market as another revenue stream
for the artist. If they can do it, and it is not illegal,
and audiences (passively) accept it, why not?

I mean, did you hear Bob Dylan's speaking voice on that
Chrysler Super Bowl ad? Does anyone really think that was
not hugely processed?

(So if you want to be really cynical, a good tactic would
be to turn off Keith's auto-correct for the first few
intentional bad notes of Start Me Up at Hyde Park,
then turn it back on. Those few bum notes, processed
out later, would make all the live processing much less
apparent. Those few bum notes would make all the
rest of his playing seem much more authentic.)

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #61 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 4:42pm

Anyone remember this one from the mid 80s? Forget the visuals for a second - when this first hit the airwaves, there was a bit of speculation at the time that Mick may have released it under a pseudonym. Especially when you consider the obvious link to him from the name of the band

The lead singer, Steve Elson, ended up in a tribute band called the Counterfeit Stones who I saw a few times.

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #64 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 11:07am

Gazza wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Just heard it for the first time.

Not Jagger. Bloody good imitation, though and obviously recorded to make the listener feel like it COULD be him.

1) NOBODY could imitate Jagger that well. If its an
imitator, their vocal has been processed with a
Jagger-derived algorithm.

2) These algorithms, which break down an artist's
voice into every single tone, overtone, harmonic, etc,
are the brave new world we're entering right now.
It will soon be possible, if its not already, that you will
be able to take even a poor imitiation of Jagger, and
process it to virtual perfection. Including live, as it
happens.

3) But for sure at this point, corrective auto-tuning,
which is somewhat less sophisticated, is now
everywhere, on virtually every recording and live
performance. On the U2 forum, I've been kinda
impressed that the hardcore there seems quite
accepting of the idea that Bono could only sound
as good as he does on their new song with tuning/
processing. For me, it was listening to the dance
version of Doom And Gloom, where Jagger's voice is
isolated, virtually acapella, that convinced me that
he's using it too, including for his live vocals. And Keith
even to a greater extent.

You don't think so? Here's what you should read:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/27/3964406/seduced-by-perfect-pitch-how-auto-tune...

Excerpt:

"Then Mike Auto-Tuned two versions of our song:
one with Cher / T-Pain style glitchy Auto-Tune,
the other with “natural” sounding Auto-Tune.
The exaggerated one was hilariously awesome –
it sounded just like a generic R&B song. But the second
one shocked me. It sounded like us, for sure. But an
idealized version of us. My husband’s gritty vocal
attack was still there, but he was singing on key. And
something about fine-tuning my vocals had made them
sound more confident, like smoothing out a tremble in
one’s speech."

Soon, up-and-coming singers, as a part of their
art, are going to design (and copyright) a completely
natural-sounding algorithm for themself that is at the
same time as distinctive and recognizable as Howling
Wolf or Ronnie Spector. And you'll never know the
difference. Because that algorithm will be built right
into every microphone they use.

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #66 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 7:11pm

Edith Grove wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

Why are ya'll so worried about this? LOL

Not Worried Im just very curious
about no one "hear" knowing about this "Stones" song, is it or isn't it not Jagger?
Do my Gods have clay feet kinda thin.
When this stuff happens I go with the local guru Stones expert
the great one Gaza
but would love to hear from others!
I like to hear what the pdog got to say.
I find this stuff very interesting.
I'm a conspiracy nut!

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #68 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 6:00am

1) I skimmed this doctoral dissertation from way back in
2007, "Spectral Processing of the Singing Voice"

http://www.tdx.cat/bitstream/handle/10803/7542/talm.pdf;jsessionid=743098388F100...

From the "conclusions" section:

"Singing voice processing itself is a field which does
not lay anymore in the scientific community but has
mostly all migrated to the industry... (Currently) able
to recognize, describe and understand lead voices and
vocal harmonies inside a complex sound mix. New
technologies should also be able to mold and adapt the
sung content to whatever new shape and support is
required... From song analysis, we should be able
to remix the lead voice inside the song, change the
melody or / and the lyrics of a song, or even, change
the singer we want to perform that song..."

So my guess is that some of these technologies are
already out there, although not yet generally available
like Auto-Tune is. It may be even be that there are
issues of national security that limit distribution, for
now. Some people say that Hollywood already has it
and uses it occasionally to change dialogue in post-
production.

2) As far as I can determine, the following is the
(commercially available) state of the art as far as a
100% synthesized singing voice. "Memory" from "Cats"
by the anime character Kaito, one of a roster of
vocaloid singers who have had hits in Japan.

Impressive!

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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #69 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 9:07am

Tim Summerhayes is one of the principals at RedTX,
which has "in-house facilities to take any audio through
all stages of post-production. Whether that be mixing and
repairing a performance or editing and dubbing a movie
soundtrack, we have the expertise and kit to make it
happen with the minimum of fuss and bother."

Tim Summerhayes and RedTX were working for The X Factor
when the show had its mini-scandal involving favoring
certain contestants over others through the use of
Auto-Tune...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/x-factor/7959419/X-Factor-2010-ITV...

And who was the Recording Engineer on Sweet Summer Sun,
credited on the same screenshot as Don Was and Bob
Clearmountain?

Yep. Tim Summerhayes.

(RedTX the company also receives a credit towards
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