steel driving hammer wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 10:22am:


Gazza??

I vote it is Jagger
But I've been fooled before!
Where are our experts?

Sounds like Jagger authentico...

Probably from the new Chris Jagger CD..they can afford him

Darn, that was my only great idea...

Nuts
Nuts
Nuts

Just heard it for the first time.

Not Jagger. Bloody good imitation, though and obviously recorded to make the listener feel like it COULD be him.

Then again, as its not a Jagger/Stones song, there's not an original to compare it too, so the likeness sounds even more impressive.

Yes I vote for Ross Perot!
And Picked Broncos for the last Superbowl
Should have known I was wrong about it being Jagger!

Gazza wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:


1) NOBODY could imitate Jagger that well. If its an
imitator, their vocal has been processed with a
Jagger-derived algorithm.

2) These algorithms, which break down an artist's
voice into every single tone, overtone, harmonic, etc,
are the brave new world we're entering right now.
It will soon be possible, if its not already, that you will
be able to take even a poor imitiation of Jagger, and
process it to virtual perfection. Including live, as it
happens.

3) But for sure at this point, corrective auto-tuning,
which is somewhat less sophisticated, is now
everywhere, on virtually every recording and live
performance. On the U2 forum, I've been kinda
impressed that the hardcore there seems quite
accepting of the idea that Bono could only sound
as good as he does on their new song with tuning/
processing. For me, it was listening to the dance
version of Doom And Gloom, where Jagger's voice is
isolated, virtually acapella, that convinced me that
he's using it too, including for his live vocals. And Keith
even to a greater extent.

You don't think so? Here's what you should read:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/27/3964406/seduced-by-perfect-pitch-how-auto-tune...

Excerpt:

"Then Mike Auto-Tuned two versions of our song:
one with Cher / T-Pain style glitchy Auto-Tune,
the other with “natural” sounding Auto-Tune.
The exaggerated one was hilariously awesome –
it sounded just like a generic R&B song. But the second
one shocked me. It sounded like us, for sure. But an
idealized version of us. My husband’s gritty vocal
attack was still there, but he was singing on key. And
something about fine-tuning my vocals had made them
sound more confident, like smoothing out a tremble in
one’s speech."

Soon, up-and-coming singers, as a part of their
art, are going to design (and copyright) a completely
natural-sounding algorithm for themself that is at the
same time as distinctive and recognizable as Howling
Wolf or Ronnie Spector.  And you'll never know the
difference. Because that algorithm will be built right
into every microphone they use.

Edith Grove wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

Not Worried Im just very curious
about no one "hear" knowing about this "Stones" song, is it or isn't it not Jagger?
Do my Gods have clay feet kinda thin.
When this stuff happens I go with the local guru Stones expert
the great one Gaza
but would love to hear from others!
I like to hear what the pdog got to say.
I find this stuff very interesting.
I'm a conspiracy nut!

1) I skimmed this doctoral dissertation from way back in
2007, "Spectral Processing of the Singing Voice"

http://www.tdx.cat/bitstream/handle/10803/7542/talm.pdf;jsessionid=743098388F100...

From the "conclusions" section:

"Singing voice processing itself is a field which does
not lay anymore in the scientific community but has
mostly all migrated to the industry... (Currently) able
to recognize, describe and understand lead voices and
vocal harmonies inside a complex sound mix. New
technologies should also be able to mold and adapt the
sung content to whatever new shape and support is
required... From song analysis, we should be able
to remix the lead voice inside the song, change the
melody or / and the lyrics of a song, or even, change
the singer we want to perform that song..." 

So my guess is that some of these technologies are
already out there, although not yet generally available
like Auto-Tune is. It may be even be that there are
issues of national security that limit distribution, for
now. Some people say that Hollywood already has it
and uses it occasionally to change dialogue in post-
production.

2) As far as I can determine, the following is the
(commercially available) state of the art as far as a
100% synthesized singing voice. "Memory" from "Cats"
by the anime character Kaito, one of a roster of
vocaloid singers who have had hits in Japan.

Impressive!