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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #27 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:01pm

That is so obviously fake Jagger. And "Guys who know their shit" know how the movie and TV business works in terms of licensing and usage.

Send that clip to the Stones organization and watch them eat up the profits from that show like they ate up The Verve. Tom Waits and Bette Midler each sued the makers of TV commercials for using sound-alike voices, and won. Subsequent filmmakers and TV producers had to abide by these legal precedents, just as recording artists had to observe the decisions in the rap record sampling cases.

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That guy that punched Mick at Altamont...and all the Hell's Angels...all that bad acid let them hear A Bigger Bang!!

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Reply #28 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 7:24pm

There is strong mental bias toward believing it is not Jagger because the song is not one we've apparently heard.

It's not "obviously" fake Jagger, or as a boot licking worshipper of the Stones, I would know for a fact that it's fake, and I don't know that for a fact. Sure the fuck sounds like Jagger to me, although I admit the frequency discrimination and bandwidth of my hearing is below average.

I'm told by my very knowledgeable friend that recorded it from OnDemand for upload to youtube, that it sounds even "more" like Jagger when the audio quality is better. That person is convinced its Jagger, and like I said, very knowledgeable. She almost romped with Jagger once, circa 2003.

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Reply #29 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:26pm

I'm sorry, but why would Jagger - who ate The Verve alive and never bothered to spit them out - allow that song to be used in that show for the shit price that that network could pay?

People who make higher budgeted shows and films can't afford to license better songs in the original artists' renditions - they accept the cheaper rate to license a cover version, not the $tar performance. It's even cheaper when the $upporting musicians are not those on the record$.

Send it to the Stones organization. Let the lawyers decide.

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That guy that punched Mick at Altamont...and all the Hell's Angels...all that bad acid let them hear A Bigger Bang!!

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #30 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 9:22am Has Gazza weighed in on this?
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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,759 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #31 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 9:25am I'm shocked this remains a mystery. We need PDog on this immediately!
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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #32 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 10:58am

andrews27 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 10:26pm:

I'm sorry, but why would Jagger - who ate The Verve alive and never bothered to spit them out - allow that song to be used in that show for the shit price that that network could pay?

People who make higher budgeted shows and films can't afford to license better songs in the original artists' renditions - they accept the cheaper rate to license a cover version, not the $tar performance. It's even cheaper when the $upporting musicians are not those on the record$.

Send it to the Stones organization. Let the lawyers decide.

I understand and appreciate your points, but there are a lot of assumptions in there.

We're not talking Start Me Up here. If its Jagger, its so obscure, we don't even know it. Much less $$$ to license.

It doesn't have to be Stones property either, it could be some Jagger project, of which I'm sure he has dozens. Who knows what rights he retains - does he own Ruthless People? State of Shock? Right to license background vocals to You're So Vain?

The show/movie is made by October Films UK, and we have no idea how much money they have or don't have.

Also, "voice misappropriation" is a tort limited to California, I believe. But wherever it is, the existence of it as a cause of action, factors toward this not being a Jagger knock-off.

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #33 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 1:24pm shidooobee would of had this settled last week and been on to bigger and better things.
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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #34 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 1:34pm

We're not talking Start Me Up here. If its Jagger, its so obscure, we don't even know it. Much less $$$ to license.

Yes, but see - No one would pay anything to license obscure Jagger. Filmmakers license songs for their appeal and their associations. Nobody needs obscure Jagger playing on a car radio in a soon-to-be-forgotten TV show, to be noticed only by Stones fanatics.

That's imitation Jagger (and imitation Stones also), thrown on a soundtrack by people whose only motivation is a paycheck. The smaller the licensing budget - the bigger and the more secure their paychecks are.

I looked the show up on IMDB, and nobody cares enough about it to even title and synopsize the episodes, much less provide Trivia info on the great, obscure Jagger song smuggled into one episode.

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #35 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 2:02pm I played it for a friend and she says it's not Jagger but a real good imitation.
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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #36 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 2:37pm

They only way to resolve this is to get some Negroes involved, see what they say. So, lets get that in motion, see if any of them are in the mood these days to play ball with whitey. Maybe meet back here in a few days.

It's all right!
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It's all good!
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Busting moof like I never thought we could
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Dig it, Mick Jagger.

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #37 - Jan 31^st, 2014 at 12:28pm moonskillet, talk about doing your best Jagger. See below-
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Reply #38 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 8:16am

That ain't him. That guy just elongates the O sounds. Like this "Everybody go to guh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
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Obama's got attitude problems. Don't be surprised to see god do to Obama what he did to Nebuchardnezzar. I'm serious. Obama may be chewing on the White House lawn like a modern day oxen, ass, or sow.

Here is what Nebardnezzar was reduced to by god. You can see just how wrathful Him is when Him come calling.........

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #39 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 9:04am dude got blowed after that show.
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Re: Help with Jagger song, please?
Reply #40 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 3:26pm

Well, this legendary poster is off to London for a week of hardcore drinking. Yes! Yes. Good job on this. Yeah!

Me and London - we get along groovy. As Samuel Johnson said: "The noblest prospect a Scotsman ever sees, is the high road that leads to London."

I'll take pictures for yinz, and maybe bring back some treats. I may even post live from historical Stones sites. I have that technology now.

I'll chase down this song too. I know where Jagger hangs out.

I know where The Score is.

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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #41 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 3:34pm sirmoonie wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 3:26pm: Well, this legendary poster is off to London for a week of hardcore drinking. Can ya pick me up some of this stuff ?
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sirmoonie Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 3,479 Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #42 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 6:08pm If you tell me what it is, and roughly where I might find it, I'll buy it for you.
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #43 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 6:29pm I miss you already.
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Kilroy Rocks Off Regular Offline I love this place! Posts: 2,863 Mickville Virginny USA Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #44 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 7:19pm SOUNDS LIKE JAGGER! BUT DOES IT MOVES LIKE JAGGER sorry cap key was down.
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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #45 - Feb 1^st, 2014 at 7:21pm sirmoonie wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 6:08pm: If you tell me what it is, and roughly where I might find it, I'll buy it for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead
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Reply #46 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 1:23pm

I'll look for it. I was thinking more like if you guys needed any Smarties, Bovril or Crunchie bars. Because drugs in England have always been poor quality to me. Despite its rep, its not a drug town. Other than alcohol, of course. Which happens to be my favorite drug, and why London and me are the greatest combo the overzealous Lord has ever manufactured.

Cheers! I fell asleep on the train to Pissington and Cockfosters and ended up in bloody Neasden then, didn't I?

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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #47 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 5:11pm be safe there, moonbucket.
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Rev 20 Redlights Rocks Off Regular Online Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,003	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #48 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:32am I can't believe that's not Jagger. I even think its the Stones. I know the show doesn't make any sense as a place for a track to first surface, and I know I'm desperate for something new from them, but still... I can't believe that's not Jagger. I even think its the Stones.
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steel driving hammer Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 471 Champaign, IL. Gender:	Re: Help with Jagger song, please? Reply #49 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 10:22am Some Guy wrote on Jan 26^th, 2014 at 9:22am: Has Gazza weighed in on this? No but he should. Stones Rule.
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