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The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same
Jan 15^th, 2014 at 4:42pm

Anyone think this guy is on the mark about this?:

The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same: JR Ball

By JR Ball, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
on January 15, 2014

A ruling by a U.S. appeals court on Tuesday effectively killed the notion of "net neutrality," clearing the way for Internet service providers to change the way they charge for broadband access.

The ramifications may not be immediate -- and the Federal Communications Commission and the Obama administration may appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court -- but by tossing out "Open Internet" rules the court is clearing the way for ISPs, like Cox Communications, to 1) charge high broadband content companies, such as Netflix, Google, YouTube and Hulu, higher fees to deliver content faster and 2) introduce tiered pricing options for consumers, similar to what currently exists with cable and satellite television packages.

This much is a near certainty: Consumers will pay more for Internet access. How much more depends upon on how much broadband access you want and how fast you want it delivered?

Another potential move will be for ISPs to throttle, or slow down, the delivery speed of video from companies like Netflix, encouraging users to subscribe to the ISP's own on-demand video service, which will almost certainly be delivered faster but cost more.

The most shocking part of Tuesday's (Jan. 14) decision was the court declaring that net neutrality -- and similar restrictions -- aren’t needed, in part, because consumers have a choice in which ISP they use. I'm not sure where these judges live, but, in most cities, Internet access is far from a free market environment, including East Baton Rouge Parish. If anything, we're closer to an oligopoly where Cox is the dominant licensed provider in the parish, though AT&T and smaller companies do provide Internet access to a small percentage of the local market. Clearly the court isn't paying attention to what's happening with the ever-escalating cost for cable and satellite service.

The ruling is a major victory for Cox and other ISPs scrambling for new revenue streams in an era when increasing numbers of young people are junking cable and satellite service for Internet-based, on-demand video and entertainment outlets. Right now, companies like Cox only make money from Internet-only customers through access plans. This opens the door for ISPs to also charge customers based on the amount data they consume.

For example, delivering e-mail requires uses little data and will likely remain as part of a basic package. However, Cox, and others, could charge more for users to enjoy data-heavy services, such as Netflix and YouTube, which, according to the Wall Street Journal, accounts for nearly half the data being consumed over broadband networks by North American consumers. Other popular heavy-data services include BitTorrent, iTunes, Amazon video, Facebook and Hulu.

Moreover, consumers will undoubtedly face higher subscription fees if ISPs begin asking companies like Netflix, which, reports the Wall Street Journal, accounts for 32% of peak Internet traffic in North America, to subsidize the cost of delivering its service to customers.

If there's a silver lining it's that Web companies, such as Google, will accelerate investments in building out their own telecom infrastructure. For example, Baton Rouge, several years ago, was one of hundreds of cities that competed to win Google Fiber service. Kansas City was ultimately selected and Google has since announced plans to expand into Austin and Provo, Utah.

For now, expect companies like Verizon, Cox, AT&T and other ISPs to proclaim their collective commitment to keeping an open Internet. Yet, based on what we've seen with cable and satellite service, don't expect these pledges to last forever -- or for long. Frankly, there's too much potential revenue at stake.

Until then, enjoy the Internet world as you now know it; like everything else involving technology, dramatic change is right around the corner.

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JR Ball is managing editor of the NOLA.com | Times-Picayune in Baton Rouge. Email him at [email protected]. You can also keep up with his local updates on Twitter (@jrball35), Facebook (jrball) and Google+ (+JRBall), as well as through NOLA.com Baton Rouge on Facebook.

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Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same
Reply #2 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:23pm

munichhilton wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

TimeWarner here in Texas has already starting different tiers...I pay the second highest amount for 3MBPS service.
I used to pay 38 for >1MPBS and now pay 80...all for internet as I don't have TV.

Isn't that what this guy is talking about essentially?

His article mentions that cable/satellite providers already offered tiered services,
but seems like they want to charge again by "throttling" the speeds of services offered by Netflix, YouTube, etc. and making us pay again for different levels of service.

At least that's how I read it.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef

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munichhilton Rocks Off Regular Offline The bell tolls for thee Posts: 533 Texas Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #3 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 8:16pm Crafty bastards...you'd think they're in the insurance industry...
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nankerphelge Rocks Off Regular Offline Maybe being bad is more fun than being good... Posts: 2,775 Sweet Virginia Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #4 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:05pm Wait til ObamaNet. You will have to purchase Internet access even if you don't want it, or pay a penalty! But if you have an ISP and like your ISP, you can keep them....
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Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same
Reply #5 - Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:56pm

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

munichhilton wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

TimeWarner here in Texas has already starting different tiers...I pay the second highest amount for 3MBPS service.
I used to pay 38 for >1MPBS and now pay 80...all for internet as I don't have TV.

Isn't that what this guy is talking about essentially?

His article mentions that cable/satellite providers already offered tiered services,
but seems like they want to charge again by "throttling" the speeds of services offered by Netflix, YouTube, etc. and making us pay again for different levels of service.

At least that's how I read it.

Isn't that racketeering essentially?

Pay more or else..."you wouldn't want your little Skype call to grandma to drop now would you??"

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Reply #6 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 5:25am

nankerphelge wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:05pm:

Wait til ObamaNet.

You will have to purchase Internet access even if you don't want it, or pay a penalty!

But if you have an ISP and like your ISP, you can keep them....

Let's not be too quick to judge.
We need to pass this law so we can find out what's in it. Oh no! not you again

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef

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corgi37 Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,559 Aussie land Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #7 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 5:53am All cool. Some one will invent internet 2.0
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Pdog Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 6,130 aTx Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #8 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 8:16am I warned you guys years ago about this… Hate to say I told you so!!!
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Reply #9 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 8:35am

I'm for this. People with money are more intelligent than people who are poor - this may act as a filter with respect to people with low IQs, and return a certain level intelligence to the national debate. Retards love the internet, and have been abusing it for well over a decade now with the thoughts and "opinions." See, e.g., RO. I ask some of you: How are we supposed to progress as a nation or culture if we let socialist-based access to media forums form a deluded sense of value and worth in idiots?

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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #10 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:09am sirmoonie ?
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sirmoonie Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 3,479 Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #11 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:16am Keep it up. Your net worth is showing, Francis.
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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #12 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:21am sirmoonie wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 9:16am: Keep it up. Your net worth is showing, Francis. Congratulations on your 2000th post!
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sirmoonie Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 3,479 Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #13 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 1:42pm Holy piss! 2000 posts! I didn't even notice I was so close. I think I could break those down by the drug I was inspired and/or addled by. Create some kind of pie graph, with different colors for each drug.
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Reply #14 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 2:05pm

Well, where I live, I have a free internet signal that is free to use thank god.

And I think more of those free hot spots are coming around more and more.

There will sill be no tax on the internet.

The internet should be the wild wild west.

Fuck paying 30/40 dollars a month when you can get it for free.

Which (give it time) the internet will be for free.

Hot wifi singles are popping all over the place.

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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #15 - Jan 16^th, 2014 at 2:31pm steel driving hammer wrote on Jan 16^th, 2014 at 2:05pm: Hot wifi singles are popping all over the place. Yeah, but are they secure enough for personal banking ?
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Reply #16 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 1:05pm

nankerphelge wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 9:05pm:

Wait til ObamaNet.

You will have to purchase Internet access even if you don't want it, or pay a penalty!

But if you have an ISP and like your ISP, you can keep them....

Or you can have Bush net. Where all his rich buddies get it for free and regular people get charged triple.

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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #18 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 6:49am Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 11:48pm: Are you seriously still using a BANK?!? Yeah, well, all my mattresses are just stuffed to the brim with greenbacks, so.......
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Reply #19 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am

I'm telling you, this economic intelligence filtering that is being proposed may work. It's no substitute for genetic IQ filtering, but society isn't there yet. Soon.

But it's what we have. Sure there will be anomalies. For example, Telecaster has an IQ of around 100, but that hack is bust. He is broke. Skint. Ragged as a roach. He doesn't have a styrofoam cup to piss in. He couldn't buy a donut hole. He's so poor, he goes to KFC to lick other people's fingers. He's so poor the ducks throw bread at him. He can barely subsist in a free enterprise market-based Capitalist-American system.

JB, on the other hand, is loaded. Fucking loaded, man. He's got more ducets (The Large Green $$$$) than Goliath and Nebuchardnezzar together. The finest jewelry, flex-checkered suits, custom embroidered poofery, square footage, lawn animals, multiple cars, Italian vestibules, the whole bit. He could by and sell all of us. Yet, judging from his semi-literate posts, he had an IQ of around 90-95.

So, its not perfect, but we should see some improvement in content when this new law moderates alleged First Amendment rights. Sadly, for some of you, the law will be a farewell/swan song (see, e.g., Telecaster).

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steel driving hammer Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 471 Champaign, IL. Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #20 - Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 11:38am I think wifi is secure for banking if you type the right URL code in the address bar though... Then, you will see a lock image there or somewhere... It's still secure after the Target Stores scare scam thing or whatever... Stones rule.
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sirmoonie Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 3,479 Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #23 - Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 12:31pm The battle is pre-lost for many of you. Soon, a world will be here where a man is judged not by the content of his character, but by his position on The Bell Curve.
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Some Guy Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 16,085 Atlanta Gender:	Re: The way you use (and pay) for the Internet will never be the same Reply #24 - Jan 23^rd, 2014 at 11:49am sirmoonie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2014 at 12:31pm: The battle is pre-lost for many of you. Soon, a world will be here where a man is judged not by the content of his character, but by his position on The Bell Curve. moonie, is Thug the code word among whites for the N word??
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