What,where and when ?

Nice.

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2013 at 7:18pm:


Is this wishful thinking or do you have a source for this info?

munichhilton wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2013 at 12:35pm:


I remember how excited I was to read that Keith was working on what would become Main Offender. Those were fun times.

Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 4^th, 2013 at 7:50am:


Agreed.

Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 4^th, 2013 at 7:50am:



They were indeed. Back in the era when they only went five years between Stones albums.

The glory days. 

I like that we'll never ever ever ever get back together song.

Gazza wrote on Jun 4^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:


All you refer to is A Bigger Bang...That's a Mick release almost completely. Now Keith's playing nice because he loves to tour...

I think when he sits down and starts strumming, good things come out. I have very little interest in another Jagger solo outing where Keith plays along...His solo release would be true authentic Stones man!

munichhilton wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:



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Gazza and you always say this ...but the concept of ABB being an all Mick Jagger writing affair is anything but true.

Fact: Keith and Mick sat down and wrote much of this album "together" even closer than they had on Bridges to Babylon (source ...Don Was, Charlie, Ron Wood...and Keith). Mick even had to fill in on drums bc Charlie was not around...and nobody else was either just Don Was and and Krish Sharma (engineer).

Mick DID have a few songs that were almost all his, but a few of them were written by mostly Keith as we found out later in interviews concerning who wrote what  (see Rough Justice, and Oh No Not You Again) and some all together. Mick may of had the better percentage of the writing over-all...

but Keith wrote some of his own and contributed very much during the writing process of ABB. Nothing in their interviews and the people who were there suggests anything different. They wrote together more closely than perhaps they did even on Voodoo Lounge for ABB (although it doesn't really sound like it bc the record had a different production style is all).


Mick may of wrote the bigger percentage and had the most input (maybe 60/40 tops), BUT Keith was right there writing on the couch with an acoustic guitar ...WITH HIM on most of the songs... and wrote the better half on a hand-full of them himself according to accounts of the two of them and Don Was and Charlie (except for a few songs which were almost all Mick such as SOL as was said in an interview). According to sources, it was very much a combined effort in writing that album. The only people who say different are people on these message boards who have no real clue. Bridges was very much them writing separately in many (not all) songs and you never heard about how closely they worked together on that album bc they didn't work too closely. In fact, you heard the opposite, which was true. Gotta go with the folks that were there and by what they said in interviews bc, not only did they note they were writing together on ABB, but they noted they were writing and working closer together than they had in a very long time...


Ian

Ian do you write music/lyrics? i'm not patronizing here…. Not only is it an amazing process when two or more people do it together, it's also a situation where peoples egos will fight for their lives….
We know that Mick took over the band, when Keith was failing from drug use and problems…
The conversation was simple, Mick (paraphrasing) told Keith, if it wasn't for me, you'd be finished.
Keith's ego has been trying to recover, first by forcing his way back to gain control and now, retreating and making Mick have to force stuff out… this is pretty obvious by the creative output of the two over the past 25 years…
This is kind of what Gazza is trying to tell you, by providing massive amounts of information… regardless of the band, money, history… these are two people, who have strong personalities and the pride and egos are fighting to protect themselves… it's a normal human trait… Mick has been more understanding, forgiving and willing to be amicable… Keith is the one making things crawl along and be difficult, it's all he has left… it's his way of controlling, otherwise, in his mind Mick won… what he thinks mick has won, is basically Keiths ego lying to him, and his view of himself, that exists within him… Keith really isn't the easy going rasta pothead he tries to come of as… he's ust as insecure and gets hurt feeling, like everyone else…
My take on it, Keith needs to get over himself, and stop competing with mick… Mick isn't even there, Keith is the only one in that race!!! it's stupid and pety… but will he realize it and change… doubtful, he has no reason too… he would need a jolt, and near death didn't even do it….

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:42am:



Munich ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uF8thywsuM