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Re: Stones to release a DVD/BR box with guests!
Reply #25 - Jun 6^th, 2013 at 2:09pm

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It's a matter of opinion, so almost no use in arguing it...The Rolling Stones are now Mick's band entirely. Keith is there to add some measure of authenticity but nothing more.

Correct.

Since 1989, Keith's co-dominant role in the band has gradually eroded at all levels. Basically a trade off to keep the band together. It has primarily existed on Mick's terms ever since.

Musically - the song choices and sound of the band onstage has primarily been deferred to Jagger and Leavell in recent years. What new material appears on records is primarily written by Mick (although thats more a case of him being more inspired than Keith than anything else, in fairness)

When it comes to organising a tour and deciding what size of show to put together and the business side that surrounds it, Keith's input was clearly behind that of Jagger and Cohl. With Cohl gone, it leaves Mick more dominant than ever.

Make no mistake about it, after 'Life' it took a lot of humble pie to be consumed to get Mick to work with Keith again. Keith's hand in the band IMO was significantly weakened even further as a result.

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Re: Stones to release a DVD/BR box with guests!
Reply #26 - Jun 6^th, 2013 at 3:17pm

Gazza wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It's a matter of opinion, so almost no use in arguing it...The Rolling Stones are now Mick's band entirely. Keith is there to add some measure of authenticity but nothing more.

Correct.

Since 1989, Keith's co-dominant role in the band has gradually eroded at all levels. Basically a trade off to keep the band together. It has primarily existed on Mick's terms ever since.

Musically - the song choices and sound of the band onstage has primarily been deferred to Jagger and Leavell in recent years. What new material appears on records is primarily written by Mick (although thats more a case of him being more inspired than Keith than anything else, in fairness)

When it comes to organising a tour and deciding what size of show to put together and the business side that surrounds it, Keith's input was clearly behind that of Jagger and Cohl. With Cohl gone, it leaves Mick more dominant than ever.

Make no mistake about it, after 'Life' it took a lot of humble pie to be consumed to get Mick to work with Keith again. Keith's hand in the band IMO was significantly weakened even further as a result.

Geeeez...when you put it that way...you just kind of ruined a perfectly good weekend...

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Re: Stones to release a DVD/BR box with guests!
Reply #27 - Jun 8^th, 2013 at 9:55pm

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

Gazza wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It's a matter of opinion, so almost no use in arguing it...The Rolling Stones are now Mick's band entirely. Keith is there to add some measure of authenticity but nothing more.

Correct.

Since 1989, Keith's co-dominant role in the band has gradually eroded at all levels. Basically a trade off to keep the band together. It has primarily existed on Mick's terms ever since.

Musically - the song choices and sound of the band onstage has primarily been deferred to Jagger and Leavell in recent years. What new material appears on records is primarily written by Mick (although thats more a case of him being more inspired than Keith than anything else, in fairness)

When it comes to organising a tour and deciding what size of show to put together and the business side that surrounds it, Keith's input was clearly behind that of Jagger and Cohl. With Cohl gone, it leaves Mick more dominant than ever.

Make no mistake about it, after 'Life' it took a lot of humble pie to be consumed to get Mick to work with Keith again. Keith's hand in the band IMO was significantly weakened even further as a result.

Geeeez...when you put it that way...you just kind of ruined a perfectly good weekend...

Damn that truth stuff.

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Re: Stones to release a DVD/BR box with guests!
Reply #28 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 1:13am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

Gazza wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

munichhilton wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:42am:

It's a matter of opinion, so almost no use in arguing it...The Rolling Stones are now Mick's band entirely. Keith is there to add some measure of authenticity but nothing more.

Correct.

Since 1989, Keith's co-dominant role in the band has gradually eroded at all levels. Basically a trade off to keep the band together. It has primarily existed on Mick's terms ever since.

Musically - the song choices and sound of the band onstage has primarily been deferred to Jagger and Leavell in recent years. What new material appears on records is primarily written by Mick (although thats more a case of him being more inspired than Keith than anything else, in fairness)

When it comes to organising a tour and deciding what size of show to put together and the business side that surrounds it, Keith's input was clearly behind that of Jagger and Cohl. With Cohl gone, it leaves Mick more dominant than ever.

Make no mistake about it, after 'Life' it took a lot of humble pie to be consumed to get Mick to work with Keith again. Keith's hand in the band IMO was significantly weakened even further as a result.

Geeeez...when you put it that way...you just kind of ruined a perfectly good weekend...

Damn that truth stuff.

wow. not enough booze in the world to help me swallow that pill

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