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Reply #375 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 7:58pm
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Will someone remind me...during the 2012 mini tour...was there not a selection of tickets released closer to the show date with a price drop?  Or am I remembering incorrectly?  Did they offer any of the GA pit seats at a lower price later?  Or were the GA tickets always sold as their original price?
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Reply #376 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 11:08pm
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3 in Chicago? makes sense in that Geographical area.

If LA gets one more show then we will have 3 in the area. Staples to Honda is about 33 miles (although with LA traffic, the trip between the 2 often takes about 2 hours). Cheesy

Shit,when I went to see Bruce there in December. The 2 mile trip from the hotel to the arena seemed to take 2 hours. Angry
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Reply #377 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 12:21am
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Given that the celebrated artists Gilbert & George apparently walked, wearing appropriately prim suits, rather Laurel & Hardy-like, through the crowd at the Stoonz 69 Hyde Poke outing, and given Watts' increasing taste & sensibility for the finest collar crease, the perfectest inside leg etc.... it would be nice to think Gilbert & George will make a timely return to the park.
Chauncey would be a fine thing.
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Reply #378 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 1:31am
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Mick Jagger, Keith Richards Hint at Rolling Stones Tour Surprises
'We'll see what happens,' singer says

By RJ Cubarrubia
April 5, 2013 12:55 PM ET
The Rolling Stones' upcoming "50 and Counting" shows are only hitting nine cities in May and June, but the rockers could add more gigs, along with a few other surprises. "Normally when you announce a tour like this, you announce part of it, you leave it to be, you see what happens, you might do a date here and another date there," Mick Jagger told The Associated Press. "You don't want to be completely hand fast, so you do leave some dates in between. So we'll see what happens."
The "50 and Counting" schedule noticeably leaves a gap of at least a few days between each show, suggesting either a nice break for the band or the potential for more concerts – in fact, the Stones today added second shows in Chicago and Toronto. "I think it's a little bit of both," Keith Richards said. "The band wants to pace themselves, but at the same time . . . I guess what's been announced is the bare-bones and we will play it by ear from there."
The last string of shows featured guests including Bruce Springsteen and Lady Gaga, and though the band didn't go into specifics, they hinted at possible surprises for the upcoming gigs. "I have a feeling there's more openness about playing it the same way," Richards said. "I can't name names or make promises, but that area of the show is open."
Jagger also called the Stones' shows in New York, New Jersey and London last year as a way to gauge the audience and themselves. "We just said, 'Let's do these five shows before Christmas and see how it goes and see if we enjoy it, see if the audience seems to have a good time, and if that works, then we'll try to see if we'll do more,'" he said. "We still wanted to keep it kind of limited. We didn't want to have that yawning [tour] of hundreds of shows lined up for the next 18 months. I just thought it would be good if we booked a small tour, and then, you know, if we want to do more, we'll do more."
Though he's getting older, the 69-year-old Jagger knows his limits. "I just have to train a lot and keep really fit. I want to do these moves, but I can't do them because if I did, I'd probably screw up," he said. "You just got to do what's within your capabilities. I don't want it to look wrong, so I'm going to stay within my boundaries."
The Rolling Stones kick off the next leg of their "50 and Counting" tour at Los Angeles Staples' Center. The exact date is still to come, though the next show is set for May 5th at Oracle Arena in Oakland, California. They'll also visit San Jose, Las Vegas, Anaheim, Toronto, Chicago and Boston before closing out at Philadelphia's Wells Fargo Center on June 18th. The band will then head to England to play the Glastonbury festival on June 29th.


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Reply #379 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 1:39pm
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Gazza wrote on Apr 5th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
Third Chicago show on June 3rd.

Confirmed by the venue - http://www.unitedcenter.com/calendar/event.asp?event_id=696 - although not yet listed on Ticketmaster


That citi presale for the 3rd show starts on 4/8.
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From Facebook:

Rolling Stones fans offered 1000s of $85 tickets for US and Canada Tour

General onsale for tickets for the 50 & Counting tour of the USA and Canada commences at 10am local time Monday April 8.

As a part of the general onsale, there will be something for everyone, including over 1,000 tickets at $85 (including service charges). Some will be among the best seats in the house in the Tongue Pit, with others spread around the arena. Tickets will be sold as a pair. You will find out your seat location when you pick them up the night of the show. Other tickets range from $150- $600(plus service charges).

More details will be released on Monday, along with the links to purchase these tickets.
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Reply #381 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 2:58pm
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Gimme Shelter wrote on Apr 5th, 2013 at 8:46am:
Mick Jagger on Rolling Stones tour: ‘I suppose it’s some kind of achievement’

Rolling Stones frontman says band is looking forward to May 25 Toronto show

“I don’t know the set list. We’ll try to get a really good set list for Toronto. I’m open for any set-list ideas. You can tell your readers that if they post any set-list ideas, I’ll be happy to look at them.”


I want my voice heard for the Toronto shows.

Play ruby tuesday, sweet virginia, and street fighting man

also wouldn't it be nice to hear the debut of plundered my soul?
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Reply #382 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 3:16pm
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THIS is what's going to happen

01. Satisfaction
02. Lets Spend The Night Together
03. Paint It Black
04. Gimme Shelter (with Rebecca Black)
05. You Got Me Rocking
06. Harlem Shuffle (with Kanye West & Chris Brown)
07. Angie
08. Doom And Gloom
09. One More Shot
10. Miss You (with Kevin Federline)
11. Before They Make Me Run
12. Happy
13. Sympathy For The Devil
14. It's Only Rock N Roll (with local battle of the bands winner)
15. Honky Tonk Women
16. Tumbling Dice (with Billy Joel)
17. Brown Sugar (with Mick Taylor)
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18. Start Me Up
19. Jumpin' Jack Flash
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Reply #383 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 6:16pm
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From Facebook:

Rolling Stones fans offered 1000s of $85 tickets for US and Canada Tour

General onsale for tickets for the 50 & Counting tour of the USA and Canada commences at 10am local time Monday April 8.

As a part of the general onsale, there will be something for everyone, including over 1,000 tickets at $85 (including service charges). Some will be among the best seats in the house in the Tongue Pit, with others spread around the arena. Tickets will be sold as a pair. You will find out your seat location when you pick them up the night of the show. Other tickets range from $150- $600(plus service charges).

More details will be released on Monday, along with the links to purchase these tickets.




This is from the official site :

http://www.rollingstones.com/tickets/#jpoa

Very good to see - although wouldnt it have been more appropriate that they announced this before thousands of people (including some of you) forked out four figure sums for tickets on presales over the last few days?
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Reply #384 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 6:27pm
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From Facebook:

Rolling Stones fans offered 1000s of $85 tickets for US and Canada Tour

General onsale for tickets for the 50 & Counting tour of the USA and Canada commences at 10am local time Monday April 8.

As a part of the general onsale, there will be something for everyone, including over 1,000 tickets at $85 (including service charges). Some will be among the best seats in the house in the Tongue Pit, with others spread around the arena. Tickets will be sold as a pair. You will find out your seat location when you pick them up the night of the show. Other tickets range from $150- $600(plus service charges).

More details will be released on Monday, along with the links to purchase these tickets.




This is from the official site :

http://www.rollingstones.com/tickets/#jpoa

Very good to see - although wouldnt it have been more appropriate that they announced this before thousands of people (including some of you) forked out four figure sums for tickets on presales over the last few days?


Depending how you actually read/interpret this...it could mean:
1000 ( approx) per show...
56 per show ( total 1000 tickets)...
or maybe 5000 tickets for the tour ( 250 per show )

No matter what...seems kinda sketchy you can't see where you are sitting until you arrive at will call...like they will sell you returned/unused promo tickets...
or something like that...on the other hand... or instead of papering ( if they had to) they just hand out all the scattered tickets out on nite of show.
Still if I had to...I would buy the 2 tickets...and hope for the best...sell the 2nd one on the street...it would be the same as the price of the worst seat in the house give-or-take
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Reply #385 - Apr 6th, 2013 at 6:47pm
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From Facebook:

Rolling Stones fans offered 1000s of $85 tickets for US and Canada Tour

General onsale for tickets for the 50 & Counting tour of the USA and Canada commences at 10am local time Monday April 8.

As a part of the general onsale, there will be something for everyone, including over 1,000 tickets at $85 (including service charges). Some will be among the best seats in the house in the Tongue Pit, with others spread around the arena. Tickets will be sold as a pair. You will find out your seat location when you pick them up the night of the show. Other tickets range from $150- $600(plus service charges).

More details will be released on Monday, along with the links to purchase these tickets.




This is from the official site :

http://www.rollingstones.com/tickets/#jpoa

Very good to see - although wouldnt it have been more appropriate that they announced this before thousands of people (including some of you) forked out four figure sums for tickets on presales over the last few days?


Depending how you actually read/interpret this...it could mean:
1000 ( approx) per show...
56 per show ( total 1000 tickets)...
or maybe 5000 tickets for the tour ( 250 per show )

No matter what...seems kinda sketchy you can't see where you are sitting until you arrive at will call...like they will sell you returned/unused promo tickets...
or something like that...on the other hand... or instead of papering ( if they had to) they just hand out all the scattered tickets out on nite of show.
Still if I had to...I would buy the 2 tickets...and hope for the best...sell the 2nd one on the street...it would be the same as the price of the worst seat in the house give-or-take



Right now all I am thinking is the price I am expected to pay for a crummy nosebleed as just been cut in half. Inside the tongue or on the lower level would be a bonus. I am still not confident I can find anything for under $600 locally but I wouldn't mind paying $85 just to get in the door and wouldn't have any problem finding anyone to buy my extra.
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Cockpit 69, if you'll pardon the expression.
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Rolling Stones fans in row over premium tickets

Rolling Stones fans who bought VIP tickets for their London summer concert have demanded refunds after being “misled” over where they would be able to stand.

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The 65,000 tickets to the show on July 6 sold out less than five minute Photo: Eddie Mulholland for the Telegraph
By Edward Malnick9:00PM BST 06 Apr 201395

Fans paid hundreds of pounds for a place at the front of the crowd in Hyde Park, only to be told that people with the cheapest tickets will have access to the same area.

The concert’s organiser has now removed descriptions from its website which claimed that the £299 “tier one” tickets would allow them to stand “directly in front of the stage”.

According to the original wording the second tier, costing £199, would provide “access to an area closer to the stage than general admission”.

Anger among VIP ticket holders was sparked by a statement issued by the band on Twitter which said “tier three” ticket holders, who paid £95, will also be able to get to the front.

An official plan was later released by the band showing the general admissions area reaching to the front of the stage, with a “gold circle” for VIP members to the side.

However, in a separate diagram posted on the British Summer Time website - the music festival hosting the concert - a portion of the general admissions area had been removed at the front to allow a “tier one” enclosure to border the stage.

One fan said: “If this layout had been there pre the tickets actually going on sale, nobody would have bought anything apart from a £95 ticket.

"The tickets as sold are therefore a gross misrepresentation and should be refunded or exchanged.”
The 65,000 tickets to the show on July 6 sold out less than five minutes following their release to the public on Friday morning after some were available early to customers of Barclaycard, the concert’s sponsor, and local residents.

They were later offered on unofficial websites for as much as £12,000 each.

AEG Live, the concert’s promoter, apologised “for the confusion” and said those with tier one and two tickets would be guaranteed a position close to the stage “in an exclusive section”.

The tickets also included an “exclusive entry and exit point” to the venue not available to the £95 ticket holders, the company said.

Refunds or downgrades to tier three tickets were offered to those who were “still not happy”.

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Gazza, any indication whether or not Bill will show up at Hyde Park?

The 69 gig after all was his favourite moment with the band, it'll be a shame if he isn't given the chance to play.
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The Stones did make it pretty clear with their Facebook/Twitter posts that all tickets would get you to the front of the stage, but that wasn't mentioned anywhere on the site where I bought tickets.. I can definitely see why loads of people concluded that Golden/Diamond circle tickets excluded GA people from the front completely. And it makes sense cause who would ever pay more than £95 for a ticket that has no added benefit except maintaining a better position at the show?

People who bought those tickets in reliance on the fact that they thought it was the only way they could stand at the front definitely deserve a refund.
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Reply #391 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 9:29am
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Gazza, any indication whether or not Bill will show up at Hyde Park?

The 69 gig after all was his favourite moment with the band, it'll be a shame if he isn't given the chance to play.



Far too early to say, at the minute, I think. I'd like to think theres a chance, but Bill's recent comments doesnt suggest he's overly keen on the idea
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Reply #392 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 9:34am
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Patrick wrote on Apr 7th, 2013 at 9:02am:
The Stones did make it pretty clear with their Facebook/Twitter posts that all tickets would get you to the front of the stage, but that wasn't mentioned anywhere on the site where I bought tickets.. I can definitely see why loads of people concluded that Golden/Diamond circle tickets excluded GA people from the front completely. And it makes sense cause who would ever pay more than £95 for a ticket that has no added benefit except maintaining a better position at the show?

People who bought those tickets in reliance on the fact that they thought it was the only way they could stand at the front definitely deserve a refund.



Absolutely correct. However, the problem is that the Stones facebook/twitter announcement was after the first presales - but before the facebook and public sales the next day. So, you now have the dilemma in that if they revert to the original arrangement, then potentially, say, 40,000 people could say 'but I bought GA tickets on the assurance from the Stones' official site that this would give me the opportunity, subject to turning up early enough, to get right down to the front'.

And there has been a ticket drop since the public sale started - which means that those people bought tickets after the Stones even published a plan of the standing areas showing the GA (Tier 3) area as extending right down to the front of the stage.

A mega fuck-up to put it mildly. To be honest, between the band, AEG and BST, its the Stones who have come out of this least badly of the three.
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Second Hyde Park show expected to be announced within days with ticket sales supposedly at the end of the week, according to the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2304887/The-Rolling-Stones-announce...

They're incorrect about the date though when they say its expected to be 'a day or two' after the 6th July show. It'll be the following weekend - almost certainly Saturday 13th.
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Hyde Park, 1969: the counterculture's greatest day. And the Rolling Stones came too

The Rolling Stones will return this summer to Hyde Park – an echo of the groundbreaking day 44 years ago when the British underground scene came into its own. What do those who were there remember?


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The Rolling Stones onstage in Hyde Park, 5 July 1969, with Marianne Faithfull and the World in Action camera crew visible behind the photographers to the left. Photograph: Reg Burkett/Getty Images
THE BANDS

It really wasn't all about the Stones. King Crimson, Roy Harper and the late Alexis Korner all featured in the seminal cultural event of that British summer.

King Crimson nearly stole the show, playing songs from their forthcoming landmark album In the Court of the Crimson King. "It was a lovely sunny day, and it launched us," the band's manager, David Enthoven, remembers. "We overran, and there was a lot of waving at me by the Stones' stage manager. But we had to finish, and we did, with me crouching under the stage sounding an air-raid siren [which everyone in the crowd remembers, without knowing exactly why or whence it came]." Drummer Michael Giles says: "Hyde Park was a special and prestigious event for us. It was the first time we had played to tens of thousands of people in the open air. Being almost unknown, we were free to walk through the crowds unobserved."

Roy Harper became a British folk star and had already released albums such as Come Out Fighting Ghengis Smith and Folkjokeopus. Unlike the Stones, who famously arrived in a limousine, Harper travelled by public transport – "either on the 16 bus or by tube". He had performed at the first Hyde Park free concert the previous year, headlined by Pink Floyd. This year, he reflects, it felt different: "1968 was absolutely brilliant. It felt like a moment of huge cultural change. By 1969 it felt like a profound difference had taken place … Even those of us in the artists' area were kept separate from the Rolling Stones, who came and left via a corridor. I realised that the heavy hand of management and authority – that had lifted for a moment – was in full charge again. It was a sea change. I think I felt there was a darkness coming. That was my overriding reaction."

Enthoven did not stick around to hear Mick Jagger: "No. I mean, I like the Stones. But I buggered off, to be honest. Job done, let's get out of here."

THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE

The thousands in the crowd, estimated at anywhere between 250,000 and 500,000, looked like a great bowl of confetti. Some perched like birds in the trees, others stood on piles of tins or upturned litter baskets; girls climbed on boys' shoulders. While playing, says Harper, "I remember this sea of people and standing on the stage seeing three or four people at a time, who'd fainted, being passed hand over hand over the top of the crowd."

The crowd were the event, to a degree, filmed by six crews from Granada's World In Action for what is regarded as a milestone in TV history. In the early summer of 1969, the distinguished producer Jo Durden-Smith was called by Jagger with a suggestion. As recalled by Leslie Woodhead, who directed the programme, Jagger said: "Hey Jo, you've got groovy crews, why don't you come and film us in the park?". Granada was doubtful – "remember, this was a month before Woodstock, so who knew if this would work?"

Woodhead's crews "fanned out across the park filming kids in boats, a nutty preacher woman and smooching hippies. A warning was delivered about fans perching in trees who might come to grief. Looking back it all feels achingly innocent and prelapsarian. The fact that [the Stones' lead guitarist] Brian Jones had died only two days before gave the whole thing a self-consciously melancholy undertow."

Woodhead's colleague, the late great director John Sheppard, had been with Jagger the previous day, and now escorted him in the back of a limo with his girlfriend, the ultimate "beautiful person", Marianne Faithfull – daughter of an army officer and Austrian baroness and much-admired actress at the Royal Court.

Her singing voice had been nurtured by Andrew Loog Oldham, who wrote As Tears Go By for her with Jagger and Keith Richards, and she had given Jagger the copy of Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita that inspired Sympathy for the Devil. Now she joined Woodhead on stage to hear it played. "Alongside me on the stage", he recalls, "Marianne Faithfull kept the faith. As I set up on stage with my crew, I looked across at Sheppard with his team, already visibly in the spirit of the day. John's cameraman, the wonderful Nic Knowland, seemed to have flowers in his hair. I recall the first act: Screw, a very pre-punk band with a harmonica brutalist who seemed to attack his innocent mouth organ with such ferocity that his mouth streamed with blood. Then I saw him spitting out an artificial blood capsule."

A barricaded elite enclosure was cornered off for VIPs, girlfriends and press, manned by Hells Angels and other self-appointed security. Most of the girls wore cheesecloth and were bra-less. Paul McCartney was there, as were Keith Moon, the Who's drummer, and Viv Stanshall of the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, who went on to entertain in a pub on Kensington High Street, just down the road from the Albert Hall, where the Who and Chuck Berry were playing that night.

In the aftermath, recalls Woodhead: "I knew we'd witnessed something special, but it was hard to process it all. We discovered we couldn't find a crucial film roll of Satisfaction, lost under a bush somewhere. I wonder if someone found it and still keeps it as a memento of the day. I edited the film in Manchester and we screened it in Granada's London office for Keith, Bill [Wyman], Charlie [Watts] and Mick Taylor. As we came to the end of part one, Keith said: "I hope the lead guitarist tunes up before part two."

THE HELLS ANGELS

Woodhead remembers "walking into the park before 7am through the slumbering hordes of fans, stretched out on the grass like a defeated army". He says: "As I reached the stage, Hells Angels were stretching and yawning, their metal swastikas glinting in the sun, unmenacing as those ducklings … I filmed as the Stones security chief told the Angels to take it easy."

A south London chapter of the motorcycle club had been established in 1950, but it was unclear whether those on duty in Hyde Park were all members. The Angels had been adopted as part of the counterculture, despite their Nazi regalia, and used for security at concerts by many bands in the US, including the Grateful Dead.

REST OF THE WORLD

A year on from uprisings in Prague, Paris, Berlin, Mexico, Chicago and elsewhere, the tumultuous decade was nearing an end, but Northern Ireland was about to blow: that summer saw some of the worst rioting of the Troubles. Within weeks, Protestant mobs were burning out the Lower Falls Road and the seeds of the Provisional IRA had been sown.

In Vietnam, war raged. Having promised "peace with honour", the Vietcong marked the day after US Independence Day by sinking a cargo ship, the Welfare, south-east of Saigon. There were 43 shelling incidents throughout South Vietnam, making that night one of the worst in terms of attacks.

In the US, 5 July was also the day Black Panther leader Stokely Carmichael resigned, accusing his group of dogmatism and denouncing its alliance with white radicals.

Britain's Ann Jones had won the women's singles title at Wimbledon the day before at the 14th attempt, while Rod Laver won the men's title (again) as the Stones played. Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins were preparing for lift-off to the moon.

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT


King Crimson went on to take their place among the great bands. Enthoven went on to manage Roxy Music, Brian Eno and, now, Robbie Williams.

Harper became a refusenik, turning his back on commercial music. He went on acoustic tours with Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin, who wrote a song in tribute to him. He performed at the last Stonehenge free festival in 1984, lost his house to a bank soon afterwards and celebrated his 60th and 70th birthdays with concerts at the Royal Festival Hall. He is now finishing an album in Ireland, where he has lived for 20 years.

Faithfull went on to write Why'd Ya Do It? – perhaps the bitterest non-love song ever, apparently for Jagger. In the 1980s, she lived on the streets as a heroin addict, but went on to perform The Threepenny Opera in Dublin and record a magnificent account of Kurt Weill's song cycle The Seven Deadly Sins.

Woodhead is one of the world's most decorated documentary film-makers and is now publishing a book on how the Beatles rocked the USSR.

Sheppard is credited with having forged his own inimitable genre of film for TV. A fervent fan of Queens Park Rangers, he was always to be found in the Coningham Arms pub in Shepherd's Bush before a game. He died in 2009.

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Mick, quite happy being Mick. Wouldn't you be?



With another Rolling Stones tour about to begin, Andrew Martin reflects on the Jagger charisma and wonders how nothing bad ever seems to stick to him



If Mick Jagger's life can be considered a sort of cake consisting of adulation and money – which I think it can – then he helped himself to another slice last week. The Rolling Stones are to play a gig in Hyde Park in July; they will also tour America – all this (together with their Glastonbury booking), as part of their 50 & Counting celebrations.
The events were apparently decided on by Jagger, and were announced by him: "50 & Counting has been pretty amazing so far. We did a few shows in London and New York and had such a good time, we thought let's do some more." And so there's our hero in a nutshell. He was enjoying himself; he found that he enjoyed enjoying himself, so he decided to enjoy himself some more.

It is increasingly obvious that this is all about Mick. Whereas Keith Richards seems to have reached his cultural peak with his bestselling memoir of a couple of years ago, Life, he peaked physically quite some time before that, like in about 1989. Time has had the temerity to assert itself with Keith, and recent photographs show a nascent beer belly. As for that bandana of his, the implication is that he has such an unruly thicket of hair that he must forcibly restrain it, but I think it's fair to say that if Keith had any hair left to speak of, then he'd be letting us see it.

I speak as a lifelong observer, and admirer, of the Stones. I too am "50 and counting". I was born in July 1962, when the Stones played their first gig, but it seems that I am counting faster than Mick Jagger. It is becoming apparent that his hair and slender figure will outlast my own and I am fairly certain that I will end up apparently a good few years older than him. After long reflection, I think that what slows Mick's life down is the fact that whereas most of us live through a series of years, Mick lives through a series of eras, usually ones he has defined, such as Sixties R&B, hippydom, disco, stadium rock.

Or the eras might be defined by the Jagger women: Marianne Faithfull, Bianca Jagger, Jerry Hall and L'Wren... whatsername. (Her extraordinary Christian name tends to eclipse whatever follows in its wake.) Of course, those four are only the icing on the cake, so to speak. It is estimated that Mick Jagger has slept with more than 4,000 women, but it is not Mick who has done the estimating. That would not be his style, just as it is not his style to go on chat shows (very often) or boast about his life or art in spite of many opportunities to do so. He is entitled to be big-headed, as is Keith. But only Keith has taken advantage of the fact. The above-mentioned Life is rather like a William story by Richmal Crompton, in which our lovable urchin gets involved in some dreadful scrapes, but always comes out clutching a shiny half-crown and a bag of gobstoppers. In the book, he was rude about Mick (which was uncool), for which he subsequently apologised (which is also uncool).

Keith is, as Marianne Faithfull recently observed, "easier to read" than Mick, whose mystique is defined by a series of paradoxes. The world is not so much his oyster as his nightclub, yet he is neither an alcoholic nor a junkie. Nor is he fat, in spite of living in permanent proximity to the world's finest canapés. He is a terrific songwriter, yet his work is not pontificated over by ivory tower musicologists, as are the frequently very dreary litanies of Bob Dylan.

I suppose it's true that when Mick does finally go to the great gig in the sky, millions of men aged from 30 to 80 will stop holding in their stomachs with a collective sigh of relief, but really he is beyond schadenfreude. You can't compete with luck on that scale. As far as I know, Mick is the only one of the Stones not to have had a serious health scare. Apparently, he once noticed a lump on his hip, but it turned out, like everything else in his life, to be benign. If any man presumes to criticise Jagger, then he ought to be made to sign an affidavit to the effect that if Angelina Jolie, Carla Bruni, Sophie Dahl etc had offered themselves to him in the general context of soft lights and vintage champagne, then he would have made his excuses and left on the night bus.

Jagger might be more open to criticism from women for his Don Juan-ism, but not many women do seem to have criticised him. Christopher Andersen suggests that Carla Bruni – who, post-Mick, had to make do with the President of France – refers to him simply as "God". Andersen also suggests that a song from one of Mick's solo albums, "Don't Call Me Up" is about Bruni, which admittedly does make our man seem like Peter Cook performing the song "Bedazzled" in which nymphettes cavort around him cooing things like "You knock me out" and "You drive me wild", to which he replies in a monotone "Don't get excited" or "You fill me with inertia".

The charge against Jagger in Life is that he was become afflicted by a sort of gilded glassiness, and part two of Philip Norman's beautifully written biography of him is entitled "The tyranny of cool". Never having met the man, I can't pronounce on this. I did once stand within 10 feet of him backstage at a Stones gig in Belgium. He was walking towards the stage in a silk dressing gown, with a bouncing walk, like a bantamweight boxer, surrounded by an entourage of excitable men with walkie-talkies saying things like, "Mick's on his way" and "Mick will be with you imminently" I was there in a journalistic capacity, and my colleague on the assignment was a particularly handsome photographer in his twenties. Mick would have been in his mid-fifties then, and he regarded the photographer with a look of... well, Get Off of My Cloud about sums it up.

A narcissist, then? Well, wouldn't you be? I forgive him, for all the pleasure he has given me. He has been involved in some of the most delicious scenarios I have ever contemplated. In the mid-Seventies, he was interviewed in Paris, on the Left Bank, breakfasting at midday in a cafe. The meal consisted of two poached eggs and half a bottle of Beaujolais. I am in a position to compare this with breakfast as eaten by his colleague, Ron Wood, whom I once interviewed. Ron's habitual breakfast – also taken at midday – involved a bacon sandwich involving a doorstop of bread and most of an avocado, washed down with an entire bottle of red wine. Note the more subtle quality of Jagger's epicureanism.

And then there is the music, upon which I find I have hardly touched, so mesmerising is the man himself. The great Stones albums of the late Sixties and early Seventies foretold a life of crepuscular mystery and elegant decadence, which I still think may be somewhere around the corner. Meanwhile, Mick gets on with it, an example to us all.

Andrew Martin's latest novel is 'The Baghdad Railway Club' (Faber)

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Gazza wrote on Apr 6th, 2013 at 6:16pm:
ijwthstd wrote on Apr 6th, 2013 at 2:41pm:
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From Facebook:

Rolling Stones fans offered 1000s of $85 tickets for US and Canada Tour

General onsale for tickets for the 50 & Counting tour of the USA and Canada commences at 10am local time Monday April 8.

As a part of the general onsale, there will be something for everyone, including over 1,000 tickets at $85 (including service charges). Some will be among the best seats in the house in the Tongue Pit, with others spread around the arena. Tickets will be sold as a pair. You will find out your seat location when you pick them up the night of the show. Other tickets range from $150- $600(plus service charges).

More details will be released on Monday, along with the links to purchase these tickets.




This is from the official site :

http://www.rollingstones.com/tickets/#jpoa

Very good to see - although wouldnt it have been more appropriate that they announced this before thousands of people (including some of you) forked out four figure sums for tickets on presales over the last few days?

Seriously, how many games are they going to play? That's a new one. Wonder who came with that brilliant promotional idea? Interesting stuff Ronnie!
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Someone on Shidoobee is suggesting Mick Taylor isn't even going to be on all shows. Not even worth $85 to me if that's the case!
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ijwthstd wrote on Apr 7th, 2013 at 2:08pm:
Someone on Shidoobee is suggesting Mick Taylor isn't even going to be on all shows.


And thank gawd for that?
More chance of reasonably-shortish yet feverish and lovely versions of tunes like 'She's So Co'', 'Low Down', 'One More Shotty', 'Crazy Mammories', 'Oh No Not Stew Again',... et al.
I hope they have space to celebrate / re-explore / root-audiences-rotten with more recent groovulations.
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