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50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Jan 12^th, 2013 at 11:33am

50 years of Charlie!!! Jan 14, 2013

The band is complete!!!

Show us your best CHARLIE imitation...pose...picture...or ROLLING STONES T SHIRT
to commemorate the day in RnR history!!!

Lets get some more RS t shirt pics up for today, tomorrow and Monday...no one works, ( well some folks do), so BITCH, LADY JANE...show us your Stones!!!

BELOW:
Me next to Smiley SYMPATHY FOR THE DELI Smiley

This was taken last week next to a great food truck here in Chapel Hill...unfortunately, the menu does not reflect the RS theme at all...

and no...I am not recreating the STICKY FINGERS cover on purpose..it sort just happens

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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland Unholy Trinity Admin Offline The Stones are back you bastards!!!! Posts: 17,957 Wonderland Gender:	Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013 Reply #1 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 11:42am No, it's not the 14th that night was Carlo Little the drummer, Charlie's first gig with the stones was on Jaunary 17, but Carlo also played on the night of January 21, it was until January 24 that the Rolling Stones had Charlie as a permanent drummer Check it out here, thanks Gazza
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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland Unholy Trinity Admin Offline The Stones are back you bastards!!!! Posts: 17,957 Wonderland Gender:	Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013 Reply #2 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 11:48am Paranoid Android wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 11:33am: The band is complete!!! Between the shows of the 17 and the 24 they had two more bass players (Colin Golding y Ricky Fenson) and a drummer (Carlo Little) The 50th of the stable band with Brian, Stu, Mick, Keith, Bill and Charlie is January 24, 2013
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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #3 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 11:59am

So embarrassed...i just read "on the internet" that it was the 14th...
feel free to delete thread or ban me for a week...

here is one that says the 12th: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/charlie-watts-joins-rolling-stones/
Here has the 12th AND the 23rd as dates http://www.timeisonourside.com/chron1963.html
AND RS dot com has it listed as the 12th : http://www.rollingstones.com/artist/charlie-watts/

I can't find where I read the 14th now...figures

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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #6 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 12:35pm

Lots of confusion over this.

The info on the setlists page (from years ago) comes from James Karnbach's book.

Nico Zentgraf lists it as 12th January - which is, I think, correct. There's been a few revisions in recent years.

Either way, after his first appearance with the Stones, the band did play a few more gigs with other drummers before the line up became permanent.

From nzentgraf.de :

Gigs in January 1963

630103A 3rd January: London, Marquee International Jazz Club (without BW & CW)
Note: No bass-player.

630104A 4th January: Sutton, Red Lion Pub -(without BW & CW)-
Note: With Colin Golding on bass.

630105A 5th January: Richmond, Sandover Hall (without BW & CW)
Note: With Ricky Fenson on bass.

630107A 7th January: London, Flamingo Jazz Club (without BW & CW)
Note: No bass-player.

630108A 8th January: London, Ealing Jazz Club

630110A 10th January: London, Marquee International Jazz Club (without CW)-

630111A 11th January: Windsor, Ricky Tick Club, Star And Garter Pub (without CW)
Note: Last gig of Tony Chapman on drums

630112A 12th January: London, Ealing Jazz Club -
Note: First gig with BW and CW.

630114A 14th January: London, Flamingo Jazz Club- (without BW & CW)
Note: With Ricky Fenson on bass and Carlo Little on drums.

630115A 15th January: London, Ealing Jazz Club

630117A 17th January: London, Marquee International Jazz Club

630118A 18th January: Sutton, Red Lion Pub (without BW) -
Note: With Colin Golding on bass.

630119A 19th January: Richmond, Sandover Hall (without BW & CW)
Note: With Ricky Fenson on bass and Carlo Little on drums.

630121A 21st January: London, Flamingo Jazz Club (without BW & CW)
Note: With Ricky Fenson on bass and Carlo Little on drums.

630122A 22nd January: London, Ealing Jazz Club
630123A 23th January: Sutton, Red Lion Pub

630126A 26th January: London, Ealing Jazz Club
Note: With Ricky Fenson on bass and Carlo Little on drums.

630128A 28th January: London, Flamingo Jazz Club
630131A 31st January: London, Marquee International Jazz Club

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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #9 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 1:09pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

LOL Gazza, I'm giving you as the reliable source and you are giving others as more reliable... Let me know probably it is time to change the setlist page for 1963

BTW, The RS official website has never been 100% reliable, but the one now is probably the worst in terms of reliability

Once history is re-written...it becomes fact... You rock!

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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #11 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 1:54pm

In Bill's Stone Alone, printed in 1990, he claims that the first gig played by Mick, Keef, Brian, Charlie, Stu and Bill was January 14th at the Flamingo. That's on page 115 of the hardcover.

On page 554, he notes the first year of gigs, and he makes a point to mention "Without Charlie" and "Without Bill and Charlie" after each gig until January 11th at the Ricky Tick Club. One glaring mistake is his listing for October 5, 1962. He puts nothing after it, and to the casual reader, that would be the first gig they all played together.

I put the page numbers for the first printing hardcover edition.

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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #12 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 2:18pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

LOL Gazza, I'm giving you as the reliable source and you are giving others as more reliable... Let me know probably it is time to change the setlist page for 1963

BTW, The RS official website has never been 100% reliable, but the one now is probably the worst in terms of reliability

Ive just done the 2012 setlists.....I have a lot of updates and corrections to do for other ones!

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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #13 - Jan 26^th, 2013 at 8:43am

James Phelge posted this today on IORR & Shidoobee :

This very day 50 years ago.

In case anyone has missed it - 2013 is running in sync with 1963. Today is January 26 - January 26 1963 was also a Saturday.

This very day in 1963 the Stones - the full 6 Stones we all know would have been playing at the Ealing club - and yes, there was also snow on the ground.

It was also Today that Charlie came to to the flat and announced he would play full time with the band. So, as Keith has also said - the Stones 50 could be construed as starting today. If you go with that - they are now officially 50 years old today.

This was the night that after the gig Keith fell ill and had his 'fit' in order to blag an after hours drink. ))

Apart from Charlie who usually went back to Wembley on the train - the rest of went back to a cold Edith Grove in the van.

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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #14 - Jan 26^th, 2013 at 9:48am

Gazza wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 8:43am:

James Phelge posted this today on IORR & Shidoobee :

This very day 50 years ago.

In case anyone has missed it - 2013 is running in sync with 1963. Today is January 26 - January 26 1963 was also a Saturday.

This very day in 1963 the Stones - the full 6 Stones we all know would have been playing at the Ealing club - and yes, there was also snow on the ground.

It was also Today that Charlie came to to the flat and announced he would play full time with the band. So, as Keith has also said - the Stones 50 could be construed as starting today. If you go with that - they are now officially 50 years old today.

This was the night that after the gig Keith fell ill and had his 'fit' in order to blag an after hours drink. ))

Apart from Charlie who usually went back to Wembley on the train - the rest of went back to a cold Edith Grove in the van.

Very fucking cool! Thanks G, I predict Stones in Texas 78 dvd and beers Better seen on weed!

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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013 Reply #15 - Jan 26^th, 2013 at 3:25pm Ahhhhh, I guess Phelge should know... thanks, Gazza!
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Gazza Unholy Trinity Admin Offline Rat Bastid "We piss anywhere, man.." Posts: 13,231 Belfast, UK Gender:	Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013 Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2013 at 6:59pm Well there's a difference, dont forget, between his 'first gig with the Stones' and 'joining the band'. 26th January appears to be the date when, after a few gigs sitting in with them, he decided to actually become a band member.
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WaiteringOnAFiend Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,595	Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013 Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 1:09am Half a century of Charles covering (and, exclusively, looking forward at) their botties. Thanks to Shirl The Girl, also, shirley, for taking care f his botty. The master.
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WaiteringOnAFiend Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,595	Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013 Reply #23 - Feb 8^th, 2013 at 9:04am You can't re-write a hysterectomy. But history - in the mind or on paper - is re-writeable, shirley. Goo' to see you back 'on the board', Bitcholino - one feared you might have been flushed away by Randy Sandy.
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Re: 50 years of Charlie!! Jan 14, 2013
Reply #24 - Feb 8^th, 2013 at 2:10pm

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Feb 8^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

You can't re-write a hysterectomy. But history - in the mind or on paper - is re-writeable, shirley.

Goo' to see you back 'on the board', Bitcholino - one feared you might have been flushed away by Randy Sandy.

Aww thanks ~ I took a short break. Sometimes you have to do that. I lost some "stuff" from the storm and I had to make some repairs, didnt qualify to get any FEMA money so I'm broker than usual. Otherwise I'm fine. I've got my health which is better than wealth in light of our fellow board members recent developments. Thanks for caring!

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